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Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of Jaguar's Reporters. My name is J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: His name is Brian sex Site. So it's just two.

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Speaker 1: It's just the two ri John. He's doing doing normal

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Speaker 1: human things. Ashlan Sullivan is on assignment again, as is

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Speaker 1: a lot of times the case on Tuesdays. Here we are,

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Speaker 1: so here we are. And it was an ugly you know.

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Speaker 1: I told somebody's I walked out of the stadium on Sunday. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And you know I'm from Kansas City, so I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of friends. There are a lot of friends

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Speaker 1: who were down here, and I said, look, I can

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Speaker 1: handle losing to KMPS City and rather not right, but

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Speaker 1: it is Kansas City. And that that quarterback is, I

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Speaker 1: mean he is. He is Brady and Breeze right now,

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, he is the best in

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Speaker 1: the league. Right. M v P says it. But you

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Speaker 1: watched it yourself. You know what you saw on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But when you leave in your quarterback is essentially on

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Speaker 1: injured reserve and you're highly touted, highly paid defense is

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Speaker 1: left in the locker room looking at each other like

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Speaker 1: what hit us? Uh. The only thing you can surmise

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night is Houston. We have a problem as

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Speaker 1: we get set to go to Houston and take on

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Speaker 1: a team that look pretty darn good on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was an eventful quarter and a half,

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Speaker 1: I'll say that with with the quarterback going down the

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Speaker 1: defense it could have been twenty eight The first four

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Speaker 1: drives for Kansas City easy and then Miles Jackets run

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Speaker 1: from the game and dragged off the field and the

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Speaker 1: whole thing that was in the first half, and like,

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Speaker 1: what is gonna happen in the second half here? This

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Speaker 1: was an amazing opening day with all that happening. Didn't

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Speaker 1: go the right way here, and I think the shocking part, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback stuff is just a horrible story. And you

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Speaker 1: don't want to see that after all the hope and

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Speaker 1: the build up to see what it felt like he

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Speaker 1: had been here for a year, Aldy and his you know,

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Speaker 1: second drive of the season. He's done for a long

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Speaker 1: time here. But the defensive stuff is the scary. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's if they're if they're not gonna figure that out,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a long season. So let's start

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Speaker 1: with the the river of slime to go to Ghostbusters too, right,

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Speaker 1: right to go back in time? You know, the undercurrent

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Speaker 1: of of slime, if you will, metaphor that it is

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with the defense? What is it? Uh? They

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Speaker 1: don't play disciplined football, at least they didn't last year,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't see a lot of discipline from them

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Speaker 1: this week. Let's define discipline. Is it staying in the

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Speaker 1: right scheme and not going rogue? Is it going up

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Speaker 1: and making proper tackles? Is it all of that? It's

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Speaker 1: all of that, JP, It's all of that. Your eyes

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Speaker 1: tell you what discipline football is. Um, they looked lost

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Speaker 1: out there, and you know as well as I do. Look,

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff isn't perfect, but it isn't as if

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Speaker 1: they don't prepare them. Now they may have been out

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Speaker 1: scheme to some degree. I mean that's what Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: is known for. However, Uh, Todd Washing has made plenty

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Speaker 1: of adjustments on the fly, and we didn't. We just

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Speaker 1: didn't see it. So lack of discipline could be Miles

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey getting into the fray. And Ramsey said after

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Speaker 1: practice or after the game on Sunday. Hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: I should have stayed away from that thing too. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lack of discipline. And then you know, the

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Speaker 1: jack thing kind of portends back to last year. Remember,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jalen had the bad day in Indianapolis. He

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Speaker 1: lost his cool in the first quarter, sat off to

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Speaker 1: the side, kind of sulking. There's a mental toughness that

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Speaker 1: a great defense the Bears defense seems to play with.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of the mental toughness that's

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Speaker 1: required when things are really going bad. Right. This defense

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Speaker 1: They haven't done that in a while. They did it

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Speaker 1: do it in twenty nine. So I need to see

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Speaker 1: them play more disciplined and I want to see them

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Speaker 1: play with more mental toughness. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: those attributes in spades. It's all there for them, um,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't seen it. It's easy to to be

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Speaker 1: Then that's the last thing on their mind. And it's

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Speaker 1: it kind of tells you if they if they can't

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long, long year. Well and Jalen

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Speaker 1: said that they stood on the sideline looking at each

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Speaker 1: other like what you know, what? What is going on?

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Speaker 1: All right? That's where mental toughness because like rally after

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Speaker 1: that after the quarterback goes down, Hey, guess what, guys.

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Speaker 1: And Tony made this point Monday night, Tony Boselli, where

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Speaker 1: the where the part of this team is supposed to

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Speaker 1: leave this group, Let's put our foot down make a

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Speaker 1: play here on defense. And if you're Jalen Ramsey and

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Speaker 1: you show up in a brainstruck because you expect to

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Speaker 1: and and deservedly so. He is a tremendous player. It's

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Speaker 1: more than just what you do. You know from the

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Speaker 1: neck down, it's the neck up, it's that mental toughness side.

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. He's got to do it now. This team,

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Speaker 1: I get big, strong, fast, athletic, right, you want those,

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Speaker 1: You'd rather have those attributes than not. But I would

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Speaker 1: rather have a blend of those in mental toughness right

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Speaker 1: than all brash, athlete fast and now no mental toughness.

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Speaker 1: Give me that. I think they're capable of it. I

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Speaker 1: you know I both know it's a hard mountain to

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Speaker 1: climb with a rookie quarterback, a sixth round pick, no less.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing if you draft Carson Wentz and you say, okay,

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Speaker 1: You bring him in sixth round pick, not as tall,

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Speaker 1: the next couple of years, an opportunity not to do

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Speaker 1: it eleven snaps into the new seasons. No way. The

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Speaker 1: You can't count twenty two of twenty five every week

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Speaker 1: And that was a near perfect second half of this

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Speaker 1: an incredible story from a guy who was basically gonna

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Speaker 1: make this thing happen. Um. I did. Look, he went

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Speaker 1: A couple of things that stand out. One we were

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Speaker 1: say that they do like you. Minshew made himself vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: The Washington State Cougars football team gravitated towards that guy,

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