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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 2: I am Mike Spofford, joined by my partner in crime,

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Speaker 2: Weston Hodcoats. We're coming to you hear from our studios

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Speaker 2: at lambeau Field to continue previewing as we did on

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Speaker 2: our last show, the NFC Wildcard Playoff.

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Speaker 1: It'll be coming up Sunday.

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Speaker 2: It's a three point thirty Central time kickoff from Lincoln

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Speaker 2: Financial Field in Philadelphia, Packers against the Eagles. Probably the

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Speaker 2: best place to start here, Wes is the injury update

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Speaker 2: with both teams. Because Jalen Hurts, the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback,

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Speaker 2: is back in practice on a limited basis, but all

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Speaker 2: reports are he is on his way to getting out

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Speaker 2: of cushion protocol. The Eagles even released one of their

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Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks, both Ian Book, the former Notre Dame quarterback,

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Speaker 2: which is obviously a sign that they expect everything to

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Speaker 2: everything to go to full clearance for Jalen Hurts by

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Speaker 2: the time Sunday's game rolls around. On the Packer's side

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Speaker 2: of things, Jordan loved practicing, but on a limited basis.

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Speaker 2: His elbow is still sore from that injury. On Sunday

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Speaker 2: against the Bears. He has the feeling back in his

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Speaker 2: hand and all that. It's not about gripping the football

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Speaker 2: as it was, but the initial injury that led to

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Speaker 2: all the numbness in the hand, the banging of the elbow.

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Speaker 2: The elbow is sore. So he's still trying to work

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Speaker 2: through that, and obviously the Packers are hoping that maybe

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Speaker 2: full participant in practice and getting closer to full health.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the other thing was too. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we only saw the stretching at the time in wits

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Speaker 3: for shooting this. We haven't seen him throw. I will

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Speaker 3: have that privilege of going out to practice and see

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Speaker 3: what the throws look like. I'm sure I will take

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Speaker 3: a video and we'll have the NFL Network news desk

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Speaker 3: sending me a DM asking me if they can use it,

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Speaker 3: because everybody's going to be concentrated on how he's throwing

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Speaker 3: the football. But yeah, the fact of the matter is

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Speaker 3: that you know, we're talking with Bull Melton number of

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Speaker 3: he's like, listen, he's going to be out there. We've

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Speaker 3: taken so many reps with them, We've taken all these

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Speaker 3: things that the main thing is just how Jordan feels

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Speaker 3: ready for this thing. So but but certainly this is

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Speaker 3: the way this thing works. I mean, Edgrin Cooper talked

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Speaker 3: even guys that aren't on the injury report. You're not

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Speaker 3: going to find anybody that's feeling great on January ninth.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these guys have been through some battles here

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Speaker 3: for Jordan and his sake, you know, we got to

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Speaker 3: see what the downfield passing game looks like, what the

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Speaker 3: the accuracy looks like. But I mean, he's a gamer,

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Speaker 3: and he's tough, and he'll be out there on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's certainly done his share of playing through injuries

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Speaker 2: so far. This seaon not something he necessarily had to

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Speaker 2: Was that funny the knee injury. The knee injury from

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Speaker 2: Week one, which he missed a couple of games, But

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Speaker 2: then you know, wasn't really all the way back when

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Speaker 3: I got to go back and make Lauren Stone now

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Speaker 3: Lauren Anderson, our wonderful colleague out there. She was the

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Speaker 3: one I think I put on that, or maybe it

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Speaker 3: at all the starting quarterbacks in the league that started

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Speaker 3: all seventeen games that were not on the injury report,

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Speaker 3: and there was only four of them. One of them

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Speaker 3: then obviously Jordan was another one of them. And fortunately

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well on the defensive side. As far as injuries go,

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Speaker 3: Well, and you're gonna need all your inside linebackers for

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, Mike, you and

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Speaker 3: I everybody wants to see kway Walker and Eddrian Cooper

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And Zane Anderson, the safety, he is still he has

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Speaker 2: So if the Packers can get Evan Williams back, we

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Speaker 1: Guys like that.

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Speaker 2: If you want to go to six defensive backs at

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Speaker 1: We broke down a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of different aspects of the Philadelphia Eagles on our

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a little self serving here. Obviously. I

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Speaker 3: to use an old catchment phrase, uh looking at Christian

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Speaker 3: Had a long conversation with bau Melton about it, and

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Speaker 3: And obviously, these guys are playing for Christian and certainly

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Speaker 3: I thought it was really interesting what Bo said in

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Speaker 3: You know, certainly you look at Christian Watson and his injury.

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Speaker 3: It is a huge, huge hit to take right on

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Speaker 3: I will close this point by something that Maliki said,

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter who's on the field for green Bay,

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Speaker 3: They feel like they have the explosivity within this offense

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Speaker 2: I tell you you can't say enough about the culture

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Speaker 2: But it's also about was what was built in that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I want, I do want to get to

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Speaker 3: I made an excellent point and insider inbox you always do.

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Speaker 3: they did last season. I don't even think they've carried

436
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: it that many more times. Yeah, but that's the Barkley effect.

437
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Hurts. His stats as far as running

438
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 3: concerned are almost identical to last season. The difference is

439
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: their lead back had twice as many rushing yards. Yeah,

440
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: you have to be able to stop him.

441
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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the name Josh Jacobs, and I think

442
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: that's a big one here for Green Bay as well,

443
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: because regardless of what Jordan Loves, health is going to be,

444
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: you know, his elbow and obviously the the Packers are

445
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: going to need to stay balanced on offense. One way

446
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,239
Speaker 2: to do that, of course, is to is to not

447
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: fall behind by multiple scores. Don't let the other team

448
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: make you get into a one dimensional type of game,

449
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: because that's what Philadelphia will be wanting to do. And

450
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: then they'll want that crazy crowd at the Link to

451
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: be cranking it up, you know, on third downs, knowing

452
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: the Packers have to throw all the time, et cetera,

453
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: et cetera. Josh Jacobs is a huge key to that

454
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: in terms of keeping the offense balanced, keeping the keeping

455
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: the Eagles defense honest, and as you said, Wes, the

456
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: keeping the keeping the defense honest, things sort of cuts

457
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: both ways, right You. The Packers can't just completely lean

458
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 2: on Josh Jacob. They're going to have to throw the ball.

459
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: They're going to have to you know, work the ball

460
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: horizontally as well as vertically. Make the Eagles defend, you know,

461
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: absolutely as much physical territory as possible and.

462
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: See what you can get done.

463
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: And when I think back to Week one and that

464
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: game game in Brazil that we watched on that Friday night,

465
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: what the Packers absolutely cannot afford to do, which which

466
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: really cost him the game back in Week one, is

467
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: to is to stall out in the red zone. You've

468
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: got to be able to finish drives because the Packers

469
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: did enough offensively in terms of moving the football and

470
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: getting opportunities. They did enough to win that game offensively,

471
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Speaker 2: but they didn't put the points up that they should

472
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: have because they didn't finish enough drives. And that's going

473
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: to be it's going to be that much harder to

474
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 2: do in a true road game against this defense to

475
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: be playing at the link as opposed to be playing

476
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: at a you know, quote unquote neutral field. But finishing

477
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: drives is the other thing that's at the top of

478
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: my list here, because if the Packers are settling for

479
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: field goals, you just it's going to be very hard

480
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: to put up enough points to outlast the Philadelphia.

481
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Speaker 3: And you also have to go even think of like

482
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: last week, you know, without Jalen Hurts, they still beat

483
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: the Giants twenty to thirteen, but you'd have to go

484
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: all the way back to Week four for the last

485
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: time they scored fewer than twenty points.

486
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of the.

487
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Speaker 3: Most high octane, high efficient offenses in the National Football League,

488
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: And now you have Vic Fangio's defense complimenting that. You have, guys,

489
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: you know, when you look at Quinjon Mitchell coming in.

490
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 3: When you look at obviously Cooper dejen what he has

491
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: added as sort of a versatile piece in that secondary.

492
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Speaker 3: The areas that it seemed like Philadelphia came up short

493
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: last season what sort of led to their fall during

494
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: that final stretch of the year. They filled those holes

495
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball, and it has allowed

496
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: them to be a much more complete football team this season.

497
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers have to understand that, yeah, we

498
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: are still the youngest team in the NFL. We were

499
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: the youngest team in the NFL for the first time

500
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: in back to back years, but we also are much

501
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: more experienced than we are last year. You have that

502
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: experience now of going down to Brazil, playing on that surface,

503
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: playing that far away from home, against an opponent of

504
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: that caliber, and coming up short, but understanding where you

505
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: came up short. Protecting the football, situational offense and defense.

506
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: These are the keys not only to winning in the

507
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: National Football League, but lasting in the playoffs. You don't

508
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: do those two things, You're going home.

509
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah and this and this game isn't going to be

510
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: isn't going to be won with any kind of you know,

511
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 2: psychological tricks or anything like that because what I'm sensing

512
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: in a granted I'm not there, but paying attention to

513
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: kind of what's out there in the media and the

514
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: comments that are coming from Philadelphia. What I sense is

515
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: that the Philadelphia Eagles, they are perfectly content with the

516
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: fact that all the attention in the NFC for the

517
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks was on the Vikings and the

518
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: Lions and who was going to get the number one. Absolutely,

519
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: they knew their quarterback was in concussion protocol and there

520
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: were certainly some concerns there. But now you head into

521
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: this week and they're they're absolutely fine with all the

522
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: analysts talking about what the Packers did last year as

523
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: a number seven seed and went down to Dallas, the

524
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 2: NFC East champs and blew them out of their building

525
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 2: and all that. The Philadelphia Eagles just strike me as

526
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: a team that is they they are, they are lying

527
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: in wait. They know everybody knows how they completely collapsed

528
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: at the end of last season, and there were all

529
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 2: kinds of questions about where the franchise was headed. They've

530
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: answered a lot of those questions. But this is a

531
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: team that strikes me as one that is that is

532
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: ready to answer a lot more and uh and the

533
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 2: as I said before, I think the Packers mentally are

534
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: in a really good space, uh going out there to

535
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: uh to take on this challenge. But man, you have

536
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: to you have to be able to match every ounce

537
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: of intensity that the Eagles are going to bring into

538
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: this game, because this is a team that's out to

539
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: prove something.

540
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 3: They're intense, they're physical. But I'll tell you something else though, Mike,

541
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: You're right, they've answered a lot of those questions, but

542
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: the real answer doesn't really matter until now.

543
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: That's right. You're right.

544
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: There was a thing that happened with Marty Schottenheimer for

545
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: a lot of years, especially during his run with the Chargers,

546
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: where they'd have these really good regular seasons and then

547
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: they didn't get it done. Now, credit to the Eagles,

548
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: they've made a super Bowl, they've taken that next steps,

549
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: more steps than a lot of teams make, but they

550
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: still haven't brought back that Lombardi Trophy since the Nick

551
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 3: Foles year. So that part of it makes me think, Yeah,

552
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: you should be confident your fourteen win team. You answered

553
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: the skeptics, You survived what was going to be a

554
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: really tenuous first month of the season. If you don't

555
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: start fast. Yeah, and you're at this point, but yet

556
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: you still need to win. And that's why I made

557
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: the comment and insider inbox, I'm like, the pressure is

558
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 3: still all with them. Green Bay can take as much

559
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 3: pressure and they want to put that on their shoulders.

560
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 3: That's fine, But realistically they're in the same spot as

561
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: last year as far as playing with house money. And

562
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Speaker 3: that's why I'm really interested to watch this first half

563
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: on Sunday afternoon. If you get off to a fast start,

564
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: how do the Eagles respond? How does that fan base respond?

565
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: Right?

566
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: But you got to earn it, yeah, to be able

567
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: to see it.

568
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about one hundred percent.

569
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Speaker 2: Well, I do want to talk about the rest of

570
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: wild Card weekend here in the NFL. Will start in

571
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: the NFC. The other two games, both of which will

572
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 2: actually take place after the Packers play. Washington is at

573
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay in the Sunday night game, and then Minnesota

574
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: is at the La Rams in the Monday night game.

575
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: As far as Washington Tampa Bay, it's fascinating. I know

576
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: I was having conversations with you about this and then

577
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 2: I did a little bit more research and posted it

578
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: in my road to the Super Bowl story that went

579
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: up on the website on Tuesday afternoon. Washington enters the

580
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: playoffs as a twelve and five team. Literally half of

581
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: their wins, six of them have come in either the

582
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: last five seconds or literally the last play of the game.

583
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: Six of their twelve when you look at their season,

584
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: including for like four in a row here down the

585
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: stretch to get to twelve and five, which got them

586
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: the sixth seed, and the trip to Tampa Bay absolutely

587
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: fascinating in that regard, like, you know what that team

588
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: has done in all these down to the wire games

589
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: and then Tampa Bay. Baker Mayfield is as hot a

590
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: quarterback as any in the league right now. Over his

591
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: last I believe four games, he's got one hundred and

592
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: twenty plus passer raatee essentially over the last month. Tampa

593
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: Bay is a team that, yeah, they don't have a

594
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: great record, they won a crappy division, but that's a

595
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: team that's confident they can go out win games right now.

596
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: Too. The way that that draft class is rallied too,

597
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: has just been incredible. I mean, Darnold obviously is in

598
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: this playoff right with Minnesota, but right Baker Mayfield man

599
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: when he is hot. There is nobody that strikes the

600
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: match hotter than he does. I mean when he catches fire,

601
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: that guy is just an inferno. Yeah, and he's doing

602
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: it again. I'm really interested to see him at up

603
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: with Dan Quinn's defense and how they counter that. Quinn's

604
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: defense have been up and down at various points of

605
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: the season. It does seem like they've sort of peaked

606
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 3: towards the end of the year, though, And certainly when

607
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: you talk about Giden Daniels, you're talking about the NFL

608
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: offensive rookie of the Year. I know it's going to

609
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: be probably a couple days before we hear any of that,

610
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: but that is it has to be what happened. Oh yeah, Yeah,

611
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: this guy has been electrifying, but he's also been incredibly

612
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: clutch as a rookie player in his first NFL season.

613
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: You just that aspect of it you can't say enough

614
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: about because at the end of the day, you can

615
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: have fancy stats and you can do this and that,

616
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: do you win football games? He wins football games? Did

617
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: you I got to kick out of this? Did you

618
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: see that stat? Not that this is anything to do

619
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: with the games you lined up for me, but this

620
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: is the eighth playoff trip for the Houston Texans and

621
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: they've never not been in the three thirty time slot

622
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: on set.

623
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Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I did hear.

624
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: Every single time every Houston Houston Texans Wild Card AFC

625
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Wildcard game is at the three thirty Central on Saturday afternoon,

626
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: they had They've been in the same time slot every time.

627
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: The Houston Texans are like the ginger ale and like

628
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: the combination box with like the cherry soda and the

629
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: orange and what ends up being left at the very end,

630
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: and they just they keep throwing into that same spot,

631
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: like all right, well, this is the playoff game. We'll

632
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: get it out of the way and then we'll move

633
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: on with the rest of the tournament. But also the

634
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: fact that the three AFC games are all happening before

635
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: the NFC game.

636
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's kind of interesting how that fell.

637
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and Baltimore are playing for the third time in

638
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: fifteen days or whatever it feels like at this point.

639
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's third.

640
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been like two months. But I mean, like

641
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: it's still crazy, like those teams. It just seems like

642
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: every time I turn on a television they're playing each other.

643
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: Well, here, let me get your thoughts on the AFC

644
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: games and then we'll go back to Minnesota and La.

645
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: Can you tell the ones that I can watch?

646
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

647
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually really yeah, the ones we're going to

648
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: get to watch. So the Chargers are at the Texans,

649
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers are at the Ravens, and the Broncos are

650
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: are at the Bills. The vast majority of the football

651
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: analyst world is going to pick the Chargers, the Ravens,

652
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: and the Bills to win those three games overwhelmingly. That

653
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: will be the sentiment. Do you do you have one

654
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: of those three games that you that you would say,

655
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: not to say you're gonna predict the upset, but that

656
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: you think would maybe have the best chance of going

657
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: the other way.

658
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: I wonder if CJ. Stroud can catch something here. Okay,

659
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: it's weird to say a team that's a four seed

660
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: and is hosting a game is like the underdog. But

661
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean, like, well, the way.

662
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: The way they played against the Ravens when they had

663
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: at home very recently, that was that was ugly.

664
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: But is it that you know what I'm talking about?

665
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: No, I got I mean the guy was the NFL

666
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year last year, and and yeah,

667
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 2: this is a this is a guy who's capable of

668
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 2: throwing for four hundred yards and four touchdowns at any time. Now,

669
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: the Chargers defense is one of the best in the league.

670
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: That's gonna be risingly big time challenge there. But but yeah,

671
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: you can't whenever you have a playmaker, especially a young

672
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: playmaker who's gone through the ups and downs and everything,

673
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: you can never count a guy like that out.

674
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: And in the other aspect, sometimes this stuff just doesn't

675
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: make sense right, Like you will just be like, Okay,

676
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: well the Chargers are rolling hardball's got these guys going well,

677
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: and then just something happens where you remember, oh, yeah,

678
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: this is the National Football League. Any of these teams

679
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 3: can beat each other at any time. You know, if

680
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: the Chargers have all the pieces. They've gotten really banged

681
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: up at receiver, but they have the pieces to be

682
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: able to contest with that game. The other two. I

683
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: can't sit here and honestly tell you the Pittsburgh Steelers

684
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: on the losing streak that they're on going up against

685
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: Lamar playing the way he's playing right now, the way

686
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: that entire team is playing that they're going to have

687
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: a chance, and then ultimately, I'd be silly to be

688
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: sitting here talking about how good Buffalo is all season

689
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: and say, oh yeah, bo Nix is going to go

690
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: in there and knock them out of the playoffs. Now,

691
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: that would be demoralizing. But I mean, when you look

692
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: in terms of the overall consistency of a season, it's

693
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: hard to find a team. Maybe no, I don't evenk

694
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: you say de Troit because Buffalo beat him in their

695
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: own place, But maybe it's Detroit. But Buffalo has just

696
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: from beginning, middle and ends, has been the team that

697
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: has just been the most consistent one throughout the course

698
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: of this thing.

699
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. There the one thing I

700
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: will say and then we'll move on. But the one

701
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: thing I will say about Pittsburgh and Baltimore and the

702
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: reason it intrigues me, even though Pittsburgh is on this

703
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: losing streak and they're not playing all that well, something

704
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: about division games in the playoffs. Y, when it's the

705
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: third meeting, and as you said, this is the third

706
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: meeting in a very short period of time between these

707
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: two teams. When when it's division opponents that meet and

708
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: they know each other so well, and you know one

709
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: team is obviously Baltimore's kind of had Pittsburgh's number here

710
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: this year. It's one of those things that I know

711
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: everybody is writing the Steelers off. And yes, if gambling

712
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: weren't illegal at bookster, I would be putting money on

713
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens to win this game. I absolutely, one

714
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: hundred percent believe the Ravens will win in advance. I'm

715
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: just very curious because it's a division matchup, it's a

716
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: familiar opponent, it's the third time in a short period

717
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: of time. Maybe just maybe that gives you know, Pittsburgh

718
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: goal will will find something here and make it a

719
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: better game than a lot of people think it's gonna be.

720
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: And I'm sure Mike Tomlin is telling his guys, we

721
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: beat these guys. You know, it was in our place,

722
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 3: but we beat them. And Russell Wilson did not play

723
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: well like but they still found a way.

724
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: And that's the other That's the other thing too about

725
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: this one that intrigues me because Mike Tomlin is he's

726
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: one of the best coaches in the league. He's going

727
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, someday,

728
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: and this is the guy who hasn't won a playoff

729
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: game in quite a while. Yeah, I think you go

730
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: back to you have to go back to twenty sixteen

731
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: or twenty seventeen, something like that for Mike Tomlin's last

732
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: playoff win. Good coaches, coaches that are that good, you know,

733
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: they'll they'll find a way to end a drought like that.

734
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: And uh and again, it's just it's it's the thing

735
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: that intrigues me about about the Pittsburgh Baltimore matchup, and

736
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see if if Tomlin can can

737
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: change the narrative.

738
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to go back to I think it's

739
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: it was twenty sixteen.

740
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen. Yeah, I knew it'd been. It'd been a while.

741
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: I think I think he's lost either six or like

742
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: six playoff games in a rowers.

743
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: One thing that's really unfair to him though, that I mean,

744
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: it is what it is. You're no one's crying for

745
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: you in the n NFL. But like there are some

746
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: teams that he got there that probably shouldn't have been.

747
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's that's you get dogged for that. Yeah,

748
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: that's the thing. That's the beauty of Mike Tomlin is

749
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: he get he gets teams to the playoffs that nobody

750
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: that nobody thinks would would even have a chance to

751
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: get there over the course of a long season, and

752
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: and they get into the playoffs, and yeah, in recent

753
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: years they have been able to win any games. But

754
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: I just wonder if if he's going to be able

755
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: to uh, to flip the script a little bit. Yeah,

756
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: got to get your thoughts though Minnesota at the RAMS,

757
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: I made the comment and insider inbox, Uh, you know,

758
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: we're talking a lot about the Packers' resiliency being tested. Obviously,

759
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: a tough loss against Minnesota, a big division opponent there,

760
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: then you don't play well at all the Bears and

761
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: end up losing right at the end. Going into the

762
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: playoffs on a two game losing streak, you got to

763
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 2: hit the road. The Packers' resiliency is being tested big

764
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: time here. I think Minnesota's resiliency is being tested just

765
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: as much because of everything that went into I mean,

766
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: such a high stakes Week eighteen game on the road.

767
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: It's the difference between the one seed and the five seed,

768
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: between getting a bye and playing at home in the

769
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: divisional round to having to go on the road right away,

770
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: and they're going up against a team that beat them

771
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: early here in the season in that building and b

772
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: a Rams team that where Sean McVay didn't care about

773
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: the seed, He didn't care if he was the three

774
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: or the four. He felt it was better for his

775
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: team to rest his guys, get ready and try to

776
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: have everybody as fresh as possible for whatever opponent would

777
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: be coming into to Sofi Stadium. It's a this is

778
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: this is a this is a big time challenge for

779
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Minnesota and.

780
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: It was a big time gamble. It was a big

781
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: time risk by McVeigh. Yep. We're going to figure out

782
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: whether or not it pays off because there's a number

783
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: of ways to look at this thing. The probably the

784
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: biggest one is, well, okay, you're picking your poison as

785
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: far as who you're gonna play, but do you just

786
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: want to start to bite through that right at the

787
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: beginning and start to get through that elephant you know

788
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: from day one, and if you beat the Minnesota Vikings,

789
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: you take on the world, right you just see where

790
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 3: it takes you from there.

791
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: Yep.

792
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: So you had the half round by or whatever you

793
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: want to call this with with sitting in all the

794
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: guys they did. And the other thing too. You'd be

795
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 3: remiss not to say the Rams have been banged up

796
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: every way a team can be banged up but still

797
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs with its core players, Like it's insane,

798
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: Like the fact that they got San Francisco never got

799
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: everybody back right. The Rams somehow did like and they

800
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: had bad injuries, especially at the receiver position, and.

801
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: They were able to outlast the Seattle Seahawks.

802
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: It's had.

803
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: The Seahawks had a very tough schedule down the stretch.

804
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: They lost home games back to back to the Packers

805
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: and the Vikings. That put the Rams in control. And

806
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: the Rams snagged that division that got there and got

807
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: their playoff spot. And then once they had it, Sean

808
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: mcvage was like, all right, then, I don't care what

809
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: seed we are. We're gonna rest up our guys and

810
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: get ready to make a run.

811
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: And for how bad that defense was at certain points

812
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: this season, the way they finished out against the division,

813
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: finished out against Geno Smith. You saw what Gino did

814
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: in the finale. I mean, like that guy still he

815
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: threw for a career high passing yards. This year, I

816
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: think more touchdowns than he's ever had. I mean, like,

817
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: the guy is a real threat that you have to

818
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 3: find ways to get through the Rams. Did that, here's

819
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: your reward, You get to face a fourteen win wild

820
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: card team. But you know, seeing where this takes him

821
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: is going to be really fascinating to watch, because as

822
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: long as the Packers are alive, I want to see

823
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: the fewest amount of NFC North teams available, you know,

824
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: the rest of the way. Not because I don't think

825
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: they can beat them, because you don't want to sit

826
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: there and play you know division, you know, on cheer

827
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: for your division, whatever. But there is also the aspect

828
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: in the back of my head that's like Minnesota is

829
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: such a strange team in the way in which they've

830
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: done this thing this year. Nobody expected them to be here. No,

831
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: I had them down for fourth place in the division.

832
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 3: So I had them behind the Chicago Bears, and here

833
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: they are Sam Darnald showing what he flashed with the

834
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: forty nine ers was no fluke and this it's crazy, man.

835
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 3: But this photon of youth that has emerged out in Carolina,

836
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: where these guys go down there and they kind of

837
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: flame out and then they go to another team and

838
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: become Baker Mayfield again, and Donald becomes the player that

839
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: he's become. I mean, it's it's it's been crazy to watch.

840
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: I think we won't be able to probably enjoy that

841
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: game at all, But I think that's probably I can

842
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: see why that was the one that was put on

843
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football because it is a real juggernaut of

844
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: a matchup in terms of the wild card round and

845
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: how that is formulated.

846
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is one hundred percent. And the whole Sean

847
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: McVay Kevin O'Connell thing is interesting as well, obviously, as

848
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: amongst the many coaching connections and all that that we

849
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: talked about over the years with the I guess what

850
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: you'd call the Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan tree.

851
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the double tree.

852
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh.

853
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: I want to mention this too when I say we

854
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: can't really enjoy it Monday Night. And the reason I

855
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: say that is for two reasons. One, if the Packers lose,

856
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: I don't care about football anymore. And two, if the

857
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: Packers win, correct me if I'm wrong here. You're playing

858
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: on Saturday night, right, There's no situation in which Green

859
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: Bay could even play the following Sunday.

860
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Correct, I that's that's the part I don't know.

861
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, or because they because they haven't announced, they haven't

862
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: announced what timeslot Detroit is in.

863
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: So you could potentially have both of them on Sunday.

864
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, never been.

865
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because well because see here's the thing, like the

866
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: way I understand it, like they what what the NFL

867
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: is not going to do is the NFL is not

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Speaker 2: going to have the Monday night winner between the Rams

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Speaker 2: and the Vikings play on Saturday. Right, Yes, so, but

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Speaker 2: but you don't know which of which opponent, the Rams

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Speaker 2: or the Vikings winner is going to get until all

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Speaker 2: the other games, like you know, until all the other

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Speaker 2: games play out, and then you know, and then you

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Speaker 2: figure out who's going where. So there, so there's there's

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Speaker 2: more to sort out, you know, because what they used

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Speaker 2: to do when there were the two bys, when they

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Speaker 2: were the two buys per conference, they would actually, like

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Speaker 2: when the Packers would have a bye as one of

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Speaker 2: the top two seeds, we would actually know right now

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Speaker 2: during the during the playoff, by what timeslot the following

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Speaker 2: weekend the Packers had. They had that all set up

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Speaker 2: in advance.

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Speaker 1: Now that they're.

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Speaker 2: Playing a wild card game on a Monday night. They

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Speaker 2: can't do that anymore because you can't have the Monday

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Speaker 2: night winner play on Saturday. Like, that's just not that's

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Speaker 2: just not fair at all. So so they have to

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Speaker 2: wait for things to sort out before you know what

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Speaker 2: the schedule is the following week.

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Speaker 3: And this is where I was coming from is because

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Speaker 3: in at least the best I know, there has never

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Speaker 3: been a weekend where it's been the AFC both games

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Speaker 3: on a Saturday, NFC both games on a Sunday. It's

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Speaker 3: always NFC and AFC. So under that idea, let's say

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Speaker 3: let's say that that is the truth, then the team

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Speaker 3: whoever wins with the vikings in the rams conceivably would happen.

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Speaker 2: Would play would play Sunday. Yeah, so I hear what

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Speaker 2: you're saying. But these days, with the way the whole

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Speaker 2: television part works, I honestly don't know.

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Speaker 3: Let's put a pin in this and after the packers

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Speaker 3: wait on Sunday we can discuss it all over a.

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Speaker 2: Good We've gone quite a bit overtime. Apologies to our

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Speaker 2: producer Zach and the regular listeners who count on us

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Speaker 2: to be a little bit more short and concise. We

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Speaker 2: weren't today, but I will finish with this. Folks, be

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Speaker 2: among the thousands of football fans cheering on their team's

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Speaker 2: NFL picks by joining us April twenty four through April

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Speaker 2: twenty six of twenty twenty five for the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: Visit green Bay dot com slash Draft twenty five for

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Speaker 2: more information. And with that, we're going to call it

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Speaker 2: a rap on this edition of Packers Unscript to'd be

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Speaker 2: sure to follow all of our coverage of Sunday's NFC

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Speaker 2: Wildcard playoff game from Philadelphia. Wes and I will both

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Speaker 2: be there. We'll have it all for you on Packers

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Speaker 2: dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning

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Speaker 2: in everybody. We will see you next time.