1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. Before 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: we begin today's episode, we want to remind you that 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: the views and opinions expressed on this podcast are those 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: of the host and guests and are intended for educational 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: and entertaining purposes. In this safe space, no question is 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: off limits because you never know how someone's storyline can 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: be your lifeline. The Professional Homegirl Podcast is here to 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: celebrate the diverse voices, stories and experiences of women of color, 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: providing a platform for authentic and empowering conversations. 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In this series, I'll be sitting 28 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: down with some notable figures, celebrities and more. But with 29 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: a twist, my guest gets to choose whether or not 30 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: they want to conceal or reveal their identity and yes, child, 31 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: we will be distorting their voices so there's no cheating. 32 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: You don't want to miss out on these exclusive conversations 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: where we dive deep into their stories, all while keeping 34 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: you guests and who's really behind the voice. Get ready 35 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: to unlock some incredible stories only here on a professional 36 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: Homegirl podcast Now. In this PHG Unlock episode, we dive 37 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: into the dynamic world of the nineties. R and B Spotlighten, 38 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: a group that made waves with their unique blend of 39 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: soulful harmonies and unmistakable style. Known for their unforgettable hit 40 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: exploring love, loyalty, and heartbreak, these ladies redefine the sound 41 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: of the error, leaving a lasting mark on the music scene. 42 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: They were fierce, they were real, and their voices resonated 43 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: with listeners across the world. Together, we revisit the memories, 44 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: the music, and we dig into the untold story behind 45 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: our success and. 46 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: Why they parted ways. 47 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: Will our guests conceal or reveal their identity? Get ready 48 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: for an unforgetable conversation with this legendary R and B 49 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: trio because we're a nineties girl group. Starts now. All right, 50 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: to my guests, thank you all so much for being 51 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: on the show. How y'all doing, how y'all feeling. 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: You're doing great? 53 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: Thank you for having us. 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, y'all. I am super excited to have my 55 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: guests on because we are with some legends. So once again, 56 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: thank you all for being on the show. And let's 57 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: start from the very beginning. Yeah, So, why do you 58 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: think the nineties hold such a special place in people hearts, 59 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to music. 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: I feel this, I feel that it holds a good 61 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: place because I feel that way because I think, you 62 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: know why, A lot of music in the nineties was 63 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: very authentic and live. 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: Like. 65 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: When I say live, not athetic, I mean people were 66 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: recording without like a lot of reverb, you know, so 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: you can really hear the people voices, and a lot 68 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: of stuff is like kind of like now, it's like 69 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: more you can hear a reverb means like you can 70 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: hear like auto tune. 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: Auto tune. You can hear a lot of that in 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 3: the music. 73 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 4: So just for people who don't know what I mean 74 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: by that, it's like auto tune where you can actually 75 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: help the scene. I'm not knocking you, but nineties that's 76 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: why I hold the place on your heart because you 77 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: hear every artist and you can tell who it is 78 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: because it's their real voices live. Yes. And also in 79 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: addition to that, you had variety of artists. You had groups. 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: You had different girl groups, you had different male groups. 81 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: Even the rap you had different sounds of raps. So 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 4: you have a lot of different genres. Everything didn't sound 83 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: so much alike. You though, it's some good music now, 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: but you had different types of groups with different genres, 85 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: you know. And so and I think because of that 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 4: realness that David, that that different genre, that different articity 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: to the to that era, it was a good, feel 88 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: good era. 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: I feel like, yes, I feel like when y'all hear 90 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: the music now, you'll probably be like, what the. 91 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: Hell, it's a lot I'm gona keep I'm gonna keep 92 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: it one I do with some of it because some 93 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: of me sound alike. 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, now, who is this person? It's like you 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: hear the same sound. 96 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: It's not a lot of you know, uniqueness to be 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 4: real and you know, and honestly, music, you know it's 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: a form of copy you know, you do copycat people. 99 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's not like it's abnormal. But when 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: it's done and you are not using your voice, it's 101 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 4: one thing to like an artist, but if you're gonna 102 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: copy him, you still should come in your own authentic voice. 103 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: You know, we can understand how you what you bring 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: to the table, instead you taking over somebody's hard work. 105 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: Like artists from the nineties, we work really hard. Like 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: seventies artists. They work really hard to be unique, to 107 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: do what they love. So when you hear their music 108 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: and nineties music, that's why you feel that whole energy 109 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: of uniqueness and you write the new music, I'll be like, 110 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: there's some people that got it right. 111 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: Though, Nah, I know you'd be like, girl, what is that. 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: Right? 113 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: And you know what, also, we had artists development too. 114 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: There was artists development too back now. And that's that's 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: thing I think that hurts a lot with a lot 116 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 4: of people. You know, the artists development is it lacks. 117 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: People think they can be a YouTube star that quick 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: and they aren't making they money from it or TikTok 119 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: stary they want to call it. 120 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like back in the day, like it 121 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: was like a real boot camp, like they wasn't playing. 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: Or y'all was gangs straight boot camp. 123 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what was it like being a part of 124 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: the nineties R and B scene? 125 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: It was bomb because we didn't have phones back then 126 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: and we are also you know, we got to really 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: get intimate with the people, the different artists that we 128 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: was connected with. If we was doing like a tour, 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: any type of thing we was involved in, you got 130 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: to really connect better. I think in the nineties you 131 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: got to really know the artists and you know, the 132 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: scene was hot, it was dope, and you know what, 133 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 4: I think people really did lose a lot because we 134 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: have like people recording us. It was like a private 135 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: you know, a private little I don't want to say, 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: like a private sorority or fraternity, but like it was 137 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: that energy like you would nobody can be in your business. 138 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: It was like everybody with stays like you know they 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: say with stays in Vegas whatever they say, what you 140 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: do in Vegas States, Right, That's the kind of vibe 141 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: was for the nineties scene, like you are really in 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: the moment and getting connected with the people that you know, 143 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: that you work with, that you got the same love with. 144 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: And it was really fun too. It was like fun times. 145 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: People would didn't have no high anxiety or you know, 146 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: like just that energy where you know, it was a 147 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: lot of confidence in the air, but it wasn't that 148 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: energy like I'm better than you. It was like we 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: both about the top of the stations, not you know. 150 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 4: We would see people backstage with crossing cities, crossing states. 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: We'll see Mary, will see oh Josy, little Kim. We 152 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: would be passing. 153 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: It took like, hey, what's up, y'all, how y'all doing. 154 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: They'll be getting on the bus, We're getting on stage. 155 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: They leaving the stage, We're getting on. So it was 156 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: always it was very carefue and fun and it wasn't 157 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: no like no tension, no like some tension in the 158 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: end true. And to add to that, I enjoyed the 159 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: fact that when we used to be performing any artists, 160 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: people really stay back and watch the other, you know, 161 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: the other, you know, like more supportive yet support Now 162 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 4: it's hot, that's dope, that got the tip. 163 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: That's segue into my next question. How do you think 164 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: the industry industry has changed since then? 165 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of people keep to themselves 166 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: and who you know is who you know. It's like 167 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: it's more cliquish, like even though it was clicking back 168 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: in the time, but clicks new clicks and they was 169 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: you interacted, but now more backstage is more like if 170 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: you know somebody, you'll see them. 171 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: But people so. 172 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: Now much beatable with their own click that came with 173 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: them and stick in their own rooms. So they kind 174 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: of just be more private for whatever reason. Some reasons 175 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: are good, some reasons or not to stay out of trouble, 176 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: or you know, just they feeling themselves either though I 177 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: don't know, but it seems a little bit more where 178 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 4: everybody it's kind a little bit more distant. Yeah, yeah, 179 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: a little bit more distant. I think a little bit 180 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: more distant. And I think even like like like when 181 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: I was you mentioned about the difference, you know, the 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: whole what do you call it? Like auto tune energy? 183 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: You know, like like I was talking about the auto 184 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 4: tune situation too, people will not are not as authentic 185 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: like we were back then in the nineties. The autotune 186 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: you don't really know who it is. They everybody soundless 187 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: so and it's like, you know, and it's like who 188 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: is this person? Like you don't even know. And like 189 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: in the nineties, if you go and put the nineties 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: that feel good music, and you also can tell, oh 191 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: that's such and such ah, that's you know, oh the 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: difference you really do? 193 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: I know, I do. I definitely know the difference. When 194 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: I hear the nineties artists, I can hear the. 195 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: Difference meaning difference between like two different artists. 196 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: You know that artist, you know that this is this artist, 197 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: I mean, and I miss that. 198 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: And to think about new music, it's like you don't 199 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: you don't get that from that, you don't get that. 200 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: It's like micro waverbo. 201 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: People are like jumping in the game, getting that quick fixed, 202 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: getting them everybody like I want to get the bag. 203 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: I'm getting that bag. You know, they gonna get that back. 204 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: But you know, we all want the bag too, but 205 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: we what we love what we do too, right. 206 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: And I also feel like back then in the nineties, 207 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: like not only did we we felt the emotion, but 208 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: it was just you could just feel it, like you 209 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: knew when somebody was happy, you knew when somebody was sad, 210 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: you knew what somebody was like. I feel like theneties 211 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: nineties was just the time that you just had to 212 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: be there. 213 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: You know, we didn't have phones and Instagram and all that, 214 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 4: so you didn't have no other distress actions. You were 215 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: able to be in the moment with that person if 216 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: you had something to say. You either have to wait, 217 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: like say, if we came out with a video, you 218 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: wasn't gonna see any footage beforehand. You really had to 219 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: wait to the video to see who was gonna cop 220 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: the blue lipstick first, or you know, you got so 221 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 4: it wasn't a lot of distraction distraction or copycap like 222 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 4: a lot of copy cap too, you know, because you 223 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: know people you know you are because let me tell 224 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 4: you someone, once you shoot a video, you got your 225 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: video going and you would be able to know who 226 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: copied off for you because you didn't have once to 227 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: get dropped. 228 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: You know that you did it first. 229 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you have to wait for it to come 230 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: out too. 231 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: You have to wait. You gotta wait, editing and all 232 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: of that. 233 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: Now, y'all, I guess they look they look super good. 234 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: Mad fied brownskin for the win. So being at the nineties, 235 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: was the golden era? Who was trying to talk to y'all? 236 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 237 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: I think for me? 238 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: I think on my end, I had like comedians trying 239 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: to like me and like more on the comedian side, 240 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: and a couple of rappers, But no R and B 241 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: dudes was talking to me like that, maybe because I 242 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: had a little thug in me something that might have been. 243 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: Too much for the R and B cats. But more 244 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: but more rapping. 245 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: I think more rapping, and yeah, I feel like more 246 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: rappers and comedians on my end, or a couple of athletes. 247 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: I think I didn't have a couple of athletes. 248 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, think about it. 249 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: So wait, so name one comedian and one athlete and 250 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: one rapper that was trying to talk to you. That's 251 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: current now. 252 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't say they're name because they're married. 253 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Now, it's somebody we know because yeah, y'all know, but. 254 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: They're married now, so I wouldn't even like put them 255 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: out there like that. But if they were single, I 256 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: would bet I would bust them out. But they're married, 257 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: got a whole family, got. 258 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: A whole life. 259 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: Anybody single that was trying to talk to you, that's 260 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: current now. 261 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: No, everybody you know, like now you know Cats is older. 262 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: Now. Everybody is still there, married, got a home, and 263 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: if they are, I don't know about it, right right? 264 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: What about too? 265 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: Some rappers? Uh? It was a football player that was 266 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: trying to get out of me, But I don't even 267 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: know his name, if I if I could say it, 268 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: I don't even know. I don't even remember him, poor thing. 269 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: I think he was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 270 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: Somebody from there, Tampa, Yeah, yeah, yeah, shoot, we both 271 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: had a football player for the Buccaneers. I really don't 272 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: remember his name. There was a guy from the Buccaneers, 273 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: and he's very incredible. He's a Hall of Famer. But 274 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: he's married and got a hope for me. 275 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 2: All Right, y'all gonna do my research and I get 276 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 2: back to y'all. But y'all know who it. 277 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: Is, Okay. I could tell you a singer that tried 278 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: to get at me, because I don't know what they're 279 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: doing in life, and there's no disrespect he's married or whatever, 280 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 4: but I'm not checking for him. I wasn't checking for 281 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: him then and I'm not checking for him now. Casey 282 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: from Jo Desy trying to get everybody know. 283 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was Mary at that time. 284 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: I was like, boy, please, But even if he wasn't 285 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 4: with her, somebody from the audition, I'm not gonna put 286 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: because I think he is married based off their show. No, 287 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: I guess, but no, somebody from the audition I know who. No, 288 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: not him. I don't even know who you was gonna say, 289 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: but you know, you know how you can tell some 290 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: people want to get at you. They're not saying nothing, 291 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: but they're doing like serious flirtatious. 292 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm with that. 293 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say the name because I think I 294 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: think I'm a type of person that I don't really 295 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: like people that's in the same field that I'm in, 296 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: Like meaning like since I'm in a RB hip hop, 297 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: I'm really more I would choose more like an athlete 298 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: type of person or a comedian. 299 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: Somebody is not doing the same thing I'm doing. 300 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: I'm curious about other people's careers and journey got going on. 301 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: I don't want the same I never want the same 302 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: energy to keep it real with you, the same thing 303 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: I did. 304 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you rap and. 305 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: Checking for you like that, But if you're a comedian 306 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: or you are an athlete, I'm more intrigued by that. 307 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: Right now, How did y'all all meet? Like, were y'all 308 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: friends before the group started? Or because I wasn't sure 309 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: if y'all met in high school, or if y'all knew 310 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: about each other in high school, or yall met in college. 311 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: And I met in high school as cheerleader. She was 312 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: already on a cheerleading squad and I was trying to 313 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: make the squad. So that's how we connected. And I 314 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: was doing my dancing, doing my thing, and I needed 315 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: another dancer. I was looking for another dancer, and everybody 316 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: was like, she was samous in high school. You know, 317 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: she was popular, so everybody knew she Yeah, she was lit, 318 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: and so when I was looking and asking around, it 319 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: was like, oh, you need to ask. And I already 320 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: knew she had flavor and poise and style just from 321 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: being a cheerleader. 322 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: But we wasn't close. 323 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: We just met each other, you know, we we just 324 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: knew we knew each other, and we didn't really get 325 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: close to that until, you know, after we start cheering 326 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: and everything. But I asked her if she wanted to dance, 327 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: and then she just locked in. She was like, yes, 328 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: her style matched my style. We was vibing with each other. 329 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: And then we met in college, right, yeah, in college, 330 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: do you because it was like just me and went 331 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: with me and me, and I keep saying my daughter name, 332 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: my love, my daughter so much. 333 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: So crazy, and I remind her of her daughter. I'm 334 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: starting like her daughter. 335 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: They both they both they both muscle bound girls, you know, 336 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: to college. 337 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: So she was looking, she was looking. 338 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: There was some guy that she knew that was a rapper, 339 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: was looking for some dancers. Thought we was like, you know, 340 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: we were gonna have like a whole audition. But you 341 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, We were serious. We were serious, 342 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: like we're gonna we're gonna go to this park rented out, 343 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 4: Like I mean, just imagine we're seventeen years old having 344 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: this energy talking about you know, we're gonna rent it out. 345 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna have people come, and it's so funny that 346 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: only one person and it was but we were serious. 347 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: We were sitting about that business. We're serious about it. 348 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew y'all was seriously when I was listening 349 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: to your other interviews and just doing research, I'm like, 350 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: you know back then, like the don't that y'all even 351 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: had the mindset of like let's do auditions, like let's 352 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: let's scout out the next person, so we could be 353 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: official with that because I know dance play an intricate 354 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: role into your music journey. 355 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: It did definitely. 356 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 4: We was like the type of group that you know, 357 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: go to different clubs, and then that's another thing. 358 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 359 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 4: I don't really think they really get down, like we 360 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: really dance and sweat anybody cute, but we ain't trying 361 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: to look cute all day. We are getting on the 362 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 4: cipher floor like I rappers. People see that on BT 363 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 4: or like the Little Award Show. Now, we've been doing 364 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: Cyprus back in the days in the nineties and then 365 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 4: Cyper was like dancing in the circle and it's Dan 366 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: in a circle and everybody crowding around them, and that 367 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: was the type of NFG. So then that's that led 368 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: us to be able to do different videos with different 369 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: hip hop artists. Unfortunately wondered. One of the queens that 370 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: passed away just recently. Her name is Boss. Got to 371 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: give her props. That's her soul. She was passed away 372 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: and she's incredible. We was at mental Mondays. Bill Bibs 373 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: the BOE used to do these shows on Mondays at 374 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 4: the Palladium. Yeah, it's like for teens at eighteen, nineteen 375 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: and twenty one, and you know, it was that type 376 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 4: of energy. 377 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: So you know, we was dancing, doing our thing, what 378 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: we love. 379 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, y'all will also backup dancing 380 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: for like a lot of well known artists like Big Daddy, Kane, AMT, Chris, 381 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: Chris and My Killings. She real names, right, I'm gonna say. 382 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 4: Her real names? Who that Stilk? 383 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: I was like an extra, like a background person was actually. 384 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: Dancing and Silk You was in Silk video. 385 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Silk video, Happy Days, Happy Days out here? Yeah? 386 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: Oh wow. So if I'm not taken, y'all also have 387 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: a good relationship with Tima Robinson, who was a season dancer. 388 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: So how did she play a prevotal role in y'all career? 389 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: Because I think it was something y'all was also trying 390 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: to try out for Michael Jackson remember the Times video 391 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: as well. 392 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 4: Yes, talk about the story about that with Fatima. So 393 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: in our book that's coming out, it's called Unfinished Business, 394 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: we talk about that about with Fatima. There was moments 395 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 4: of Fatima that was great and there was moments that 396 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: was not so great. Like she she was, she was 397 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: definitely about her business at a at a young age 398 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 4: as well. We all used to dance and you know, 399 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: so we talked about the story that happened with the 400 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: Michael Jacksonville how it was like, you know, it was 401 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: like back then, like there was clicks and we were 402 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: talking about like different clicks. It was clicked like it 403 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: was a lot of dancers trying out for this video, 404 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: and we talked about how she picked certain people and 405 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: people telling us that I don't know why y'all didn't 406 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: get picked because y'all, y'all really was killing it. But 407 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: it was crazy because it was like a it was 408 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 4: a thousand people, thousand dances tried out, but it was 409 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: like we got called back out of our level clak 410 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: and it was only twenty days and they was narrowing 411 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 4: it down, and so we talk about how we felt like, 412 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 4: you know, and that's why I love our book that's 413 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: coming out, because we all felt a different kind of way. 414 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: Like me to keep one hundred, I didn't feel I 415 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: didn't like how I went down, like I didn't like 416 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: how But now that I'm now, I see how it 417 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: go like after I was in my feelings back then. 418 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: But you know, now I'm older, I see it differently. 419 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: It's a game. 420 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: It's you know, you people gonna pick who they wore with, right, 421 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: and it's like it's like a cattle call. You have 422 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: to have these many people. You already know who you're picking. 423 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 4: That's how it used to be back in the days 424 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: when you when you did like auditions back in the days. 425 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: So Fatima wasn't doing nothing no different than the next. 426 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: Cat was doing right. Like as far as having like 427 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: a gang of peeple, well, because you got to do 428 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: it for Michael Jackson. You got to show that you 429 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 4: had people out there trying out, but you already know. 430 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: In your head who you want. 431 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: That's something we didn't know until after the fact, or 432 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: at least me it's for me. I didn't know that 433 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 4: until after the fact. So my thing was, I mean, 434 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 4: I really wanted to be in that video, but it 435 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 4: didn't happen. 436 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: We did other videos, you know what I mean. 437 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: It was Michael Jackson, but we did other stuff and 438 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: Fatima was the one who got us the other stuff too, 439 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: you know, but we didn't we didn't get that one. 440 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: But you know what, she blessed us after that. She 441 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 4: might maybe her conscious I don't know if her conscious 442 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: bother her or what. So. I know I wasn't really 443 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 4: feeling her the same, but she did come through after that, 444 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: maybe she got out conscious or something because she she 445 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: didn't want to put us in Daddy came video this 446 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: group called good Girl. 447 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: They was called the Good Girls something like that was 448 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: good to Do, Good to Do. Yeah. 449 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: Did you'll ever have a conversation with her? 450 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: No, I haven't. I think my energy gave conversation. 451 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 4: I think after the fact, I let it go because 452 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 4: I mean, she did come through later on after that. Right, 453 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 4: I'll say if I being out of office turned off 454 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: back then with that SITUAD scenario because we didn't know 455 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: what was going on at then. We didn't know that 456 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: people were rolling that hard like that and what have 457 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 4: you working your butt off dancing and then not to 458 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 4: get picked. But you know, we As time went on, 459 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: we realized, you know, as you get older and understand 460 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 4: how the game worked, you ain't tripping about it no more, 461 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: but it But it was I was in my feelings 462 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 4: back then, definitely. 463 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: So do y'all feel like y'all was destined to be 464 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: in a group? And the reason why I asked because 465 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: y'all have so much in common and I feel like 466 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: when I was reading more about your story, I feel 467 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: like everything was like lining up for y'all. Do y'all 468 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: feel like that too? 469 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: Yes? We do, Yeah, we do. 470 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: I think when we had started all were we were. 471 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: Our goal was honestly to just be these great dancers 472 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: and touring all over the world. We just that's that 473 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: was really what we wanted to do. Just be these 474 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: great dancers and choreographed different groups and and tour. That 475 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: was our like initial type of energy. But when we 476 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: was doing our thing, and would we performing at different 477 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: showcase like back then it was like major showcases, and 478 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 4: you'll see people like Mariah Carey, Jamie Fox. You see 479 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 4: them like Jamie Fox wasn't even singing. He was just 480 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: doing his comedy stuff because he's snow he was singing. 481 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: He wasn't even comedy. H mm hmm. It'd be at 482 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: these different like, I mean, it's so beautiful to see 483 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: people from back in the days and where they are now. 484 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: But we used to do the popular because we from 485 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: cal We're from Cali, so cally got all the energy 486 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: everybody being in Hollywood, you know, doing their thing, and 487 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: you know, we would win every time as dancers behind 488 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: these so we weren't lining like that, you know what I mean. 489 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: We were just we just did what we love and 490 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 4: people noticed that, you guys should be more than hard 491 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: bodies in the back dancing. Yeah, Like we were outshining the 492 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: main artists with our dancing. So we would always get 493 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: people from behind the stage or just even people from 494 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: the audience like you guys did so good. Y'all got 495 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: a group or y'all should become a group or what's 496 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: the name of your group? And that got us thinking, like, 497 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: you know, we start seeing ourselves different, but yet still 498 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: we were dancers until someone actually really approached us like, 499 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: you guys need a name. You know, we were just 500 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: going off of our real names, but we needed a 501 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: group name. And once we had that group name and 502 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: we still was dancing doing our thing, then we would 503 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: got approached to be a group like you guys should 504 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: be a group. So we it was destined for us 505 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 4: to come together and do what we did because it happened, 506 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: and it's still good while it was happening, and we 507 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 4: do have a lot of similarities and we were aligned 508 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: to meet each other at the times that we did 509 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 4: to do what we were supposed to do, which is 510 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: a beautiful thing. 511 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: Yes, And I also feel like because you have a background, 512 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: it also made you more versatile when it came to 513 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: performing compared to your other R and B counterparts. Do 514 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: you feel like that as well? 515 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 516 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 4: Yes, definitely. I feel like I was the Sierra back now. 517 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: Sierra is so dope. I love her answer. I was 518 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: that Sierra back then. You know what I'm saying, Like 519 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 4: that energy Sierra brings period. 520 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Now, were there any girl groups at the time 521 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: that inspire y'all when y'all were first starting out? 522 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 4: For me, I would say st mm hmm, yes, Peper 523 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 4: only one for me. Yeah, because it wasn't a lot 524 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: of girl groups. It was more like individuals Like I 525 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: love Janet Jackson, you know, she was not in the group, 526 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: but saltn Pepper for sure. 527 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: That girl serious about. But in groups like Salt and Pepper, 528 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: what other groups? What you know what I mean? 529 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: Did y'all come out before a lot of the other groups, 530 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: Like was it it was like y'all, s WV. 531 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: Did TLC came out before? 532 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: Right? 533 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: Came out before us? 534 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 4: But I think weren't even though they were a good group, 535 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: but we were more aligned with more like with the 536 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 4: Salt and Pepper BBD energy you goat see it's two 537 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: two rappers and one singer right in our group, and 538 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: so a lot of times that's stuff that we had 539 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: to like when we performed people songs live, we kind 540 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 4: of had like maybe maybe few Fujie's energy. We were 541 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 4: behind the scenes coming out like we was working in 542 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 4: the studio. 543 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 3: They just came out before us. We didn't have a 544 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: deal yet. 545 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 4: They were we were already our concept who we were 546 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: as people, so they couldn't Nobody didn't inspire us like 547 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: that because we already like we didn't look up to them. 548 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: It was kind of like we side by side with y'all. 549 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 4: So they were great groups and we liked them, but 550 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: they wasn't a group like, oh, we want to be 551 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 4: like them later on in life. It was kind of 552 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: it was just a couple of years ahead of us, 553 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: you know, because they got the deal earlier, whatever the 554 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: case may be, So it would be older groups we. 555 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: Would look at. 556 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: We was making noise in our neighborhood before we even 557 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: got our deer we another like an independent deal. So 558 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: we just making our own noise in our little town 559 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: in Cali, in Inglewood and La. 560 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: You know. 561 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: But we was We wasn't signed to an actual record 562 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: deal like they were. So when you stay looking up, 563 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: I will only say probably salt and pepper. 564 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: Right, did y'all ever feel pressure to fit in a 565 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: certain image or sound because y'all were women in the industry? Like, 566 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: did they ever try to make y'all perform to a 567 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: certain way? Because I feel like when I was looking 568 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: back at y'all videos and just y'all sound like y'all 569 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: were flying, like y'all was like there around the way 570 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: girls like even now, like, did y'all ever feel like 571 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: I had to perform in a certain sense for me? 572 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: We we came as we who we were. We brought 573 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: who we were to the table, and to be honest, 574 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: no disrespect to none of the ladies that was doing 575 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: like Little Kim's the way she was talking and stuff 576 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 4: that was us, right, We did that all the time. 577 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: We got people trying to have us tone that down. 578 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 4: So it was pressure from like our record company do 579 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: you know the people who was involved, like ooh you 580 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: saying that or why are you saying this? And even 581 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: at that time, radio stations wasn't as open as they 582 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: are now. It's out of control now. But like some 583 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: of our songs didn't get like His Mind did get 584 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: played La Talk just like sexy, but they wasn't playing 585 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: your music at that time. So our record label was 586 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 4: trying to. They were trying to make us do like 587 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 4: these R and B D and that wasn't what we were. Yeah, 588 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 4: that's not who we work. So we used to constantly 589 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 4: have like a battle with that because we were rapp 590 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: and we did rap and singing. We kept who we were, 591 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: but we used to battle our time. That was that 592 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 4: was the different part, I tell you. So it was 593 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: the pressure of us or they not allowing us to 594 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: be ourselves truly. Thinks like how we came, how we auditioned, 595 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: we rapped and sing and we wore what we wore. 596 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 4: We just how we dressed, said what we said, you know, 597 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: they were trying to tone us down and make us 598 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: be an R and B group, you know, and we. 599 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: Had to fight to that. And so it's not. 600 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: That we was hood and ghetto. We just was like 601 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: from the inner city talking about inner city energy. You know. 602 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: We still you ain't never seen this look like hoodra 603 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: that they to call it back then, boochie boocie girls. 604 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: So wait, how do y'all feel about the reception that 605 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: Sexy Bread has been receiving. 606 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: Oh, honey, don't get me on her. I'm sorry, I'm 607 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: not a fan. I don't really know her music. I'm 608 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 4: not a fan. What I see is just, you know, 609 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: it's like it's like the ratchetness is cool because it's 610 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: a little bit in every woman I think, you know, 611 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: or but it's it's a time you got to have 612 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: some boundaries. It's just it's just too much. It's too much, 613 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: Like it's just too much. I wouldn't want my little 614 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: girl like listening to her music, you know what I mean. 615 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: You got to be a full fledged grown woman listen 616 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: to her music. 617 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: And you know, I haven't. 618 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: I've heard of her through other people and I'm just 619 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: now literally like, no, lie, like two weeks ago, just 620 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 4: saw her in the video because she with some other 621 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: girl that I do like, you know what I mean. 622 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: So I'm just now really seeing her for myself. But 623 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not a big fan. But good luck, 624 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 4: good good for what you're doing. 625 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: I feel like the girls need to put their clothes on, 626 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: even a guy. I don't want you. 627 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: I want a guy who's closed off either either or 628 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 4: I want you. I want to see your talent. Like 629 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: I feel that people can show their talent by putting 630 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: more clothes on and start being naked. I don't like 631 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: that energy like too much. Many people want to be 632 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 4: so naked, and it takes away from your skill. You 633 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: might be a dope ass artist, but it's taken away 634 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: from me because just because you're showing all your ass. 635 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 4: Excuse me for my language, but that's you're showing all 636 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: the ass and there's no mystery. Like if one person 637 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: is bringing that that hood energy, then the next person 638 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: want to be. 639 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: I want to go lower than you. I want to 640 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: be more hood than you. 641 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: I want to be so now it starts, it starts 642 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: falling off, and it's it's like hood hood hood, gutter, 643 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: savage gutter and it's just getting worse. It's not even 644 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: cute no more, you know what I mean. 645 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: It's like you now you may making it look bad. 646 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: You're making ratchet look horrible. Is you're giving it. 647 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: You're making the ladies look horrible. Like I don't like it, 648 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: you know, have some type of class demeanor about yourself. 649 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: It's getting out of control to me, and I think 650 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: she's taken to the level like I'm gonna be the 651 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: most ratchet, cold, is trifling, most ever and I'm sell 652 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: that I'm a capitalize off of it. Somebody that like you, 653 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: like what you're doing, is always gonna be somebody that 654 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 4: don't like what you do. That's what I have to 655 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: learn too. In the industry, we can't please everybody. We 656 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: had people that really love our songs. We had people 657 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: that really couldn't stand us for our song, you know, 658 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 4: but we know we struck a chord, whether you loved 659 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: it or not. You know, like a girl struck a 660 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 4: chord with me. You went too far with it. So 661 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: that's not my vibe. That's not I'm not into it 662 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: all the way like that, you know what I mean. 663 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: It's not your taste exactly, but I can get with them, 664 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: but that's just too that's. 665 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: A little too far. 666 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: Like I don't mind like I don't mind people having 667 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: with their bodies. I think it's beautiful to show your body, 668 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: but it's it's just the way the tastes. Some of 669 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: it be real tastes, Like I know I have buntion 670 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: on my body. I don't want to act like I'm 671 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 4: an old chick that don't respect people having fun with 672 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 4: their body, because I'm not that. I think it's dope 673 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: to be able to show your figure, your body and 674 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 4: look good and do your thing. But when it comes 675 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: when you you know, when you like she's she's a 676 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 4: little over the top. Mm, but like but like some 677 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 4: people gonna love you and you gotta do you gotta 678 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: do it as long as she my thing is, as 679 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: long as she being true to any artist, as long 680 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: as you being really authentic to yourself, or because a 681 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: lot of the lot of the behind the scenes stuff 682 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 4: with you and other people don't know, they have people 683 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: in their ear telling them you gotta do this, you 684 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 4: gotta do that. If she's she's really being her true 685 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: to herself, that's all good. But if you not, because 686 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of men be behind these 687 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: girls telling them to look a certain way, and it's 688 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: not it's not respect. It's not a woman telling another woman, 689 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 4: you know how to get your thing, you know how 690 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 4: to do your thing. It's usually a man behind them 691 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: telling them to look inappropriate like that, because there have. 692 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: Been a lot of female artists that came out and 693 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: said that either a man wrote their lyrics, a man 694 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: told him how to dress, or a man did this, 695 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: man did that. So I definitely agree that if this 696 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: is her, I hope this is just her doing her. 697 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 4: Exactly. I'm one of those people that I love. I 698 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: like writers because I'm a songwriter. I like girls that 699 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: write like I like Nikki. I don't mind her being 700 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: safe because that girl again, right, she's talented. Yeah, yeah, 701 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: she's tight. 702 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: So for me, it's no this to other people. I'm 703 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: just attracted to songwriters. 704 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: Now. 705 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: One of the things that I loved about y'all story 706 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: is because not only did y'all have a growing music career, 707 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: but y'all was also in college. Y'all was breaking nine 708 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: to fives. So how was it balancing everything? 709 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: Hard to tell, that's a good question. 710 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: We just did it. Yeah, and it was a lot. 711 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: But we just I don't know, like looking back. 712 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 4: And it's like, damn, I did all that. You don't 713 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: even realize you was juggling and all that like at 714 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 4: the time, right, just making. 715 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: It happen, just going with the flow, was just doing. 716 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 4: It, just doing like like you said, just doing I 717 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: think for us, it's like, you know what, I think, 718 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 4: here's to this day. 719 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: You can do anything you put your mind to. 720 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: But I think one of the problems and I keep 721 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep saying this is probably throw up the 722 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: whole conversation when you have internet, social media. See, we 723 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 4: didn't have all those distractions. We was focused, you know, 724 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 4: we were very focused. 725 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 3: There was no distract. 726 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 4: It was about where our mind was connected to what 727 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 4: we wanted to do. Oh I'm graduating, Oh I'm gonna 728 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: be an artist. I'm gonna do this. I like it 729 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 4: was not It was a lot, but it's like you 730 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 4: enjoyed it because you wanted you had a goal and 731 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 4: you have like distractions. Yeah, you're right, you're right. 732 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 2: And then y'all also mentioned the importance of having passion 733 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 2: in your art. Why do you believe that money shouldn't 734 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: be the primary motivation because I feel like when I 735 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: listen to a lot of people from the nineties, everybody 736 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: talk about how they got robbed of their contracts and stuff. 737 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes back to how I was saying about 738 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 4: how out now things are more microwaiver. But and it's 739 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 4: nice for them to get they coin, they money, they bag. 740 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 4: It's good that they getting their money. But people in 741 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: the nineties and the seventies, no, we wasn't getting a 742 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: coin like that. So if you didn't like it like 743 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 4: that because you're not getting paid like that, it had 744 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: to be from your passion because the money wasn't coming 745 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 4: like how they money come now. So that's why you 746 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 4: get those real authentic artists from the nineties and that 747 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: feel good news. 748 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: We really was, you. 749 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 4: Know, authentic, and it was like it wasn't about the money, 750 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: even though we wanted the money and earn later that 751 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 4: it was not right what was happening. 752 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 3: But we was very PASSI used That's what kept us going. 753 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: The passion. 754 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna stay with the passion. You can 755 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 4: regain and get more money, you know, because sometimes it 756 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 4: could be here today, gone tomorrow, or if you had 757 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 4: the money and it's gone then that might mentally mess 758 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 4: with you and send you down a spiraling path of 759 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: negativity or drugs or sex or whatever that could happen. 760 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 4: But if you have the passion for it, you know 761 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 4: that if I got it before, I can do it again. 762 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 4: You can choose other avenues or the venues with that passion. 763 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: So I think that's why having passion is so important 764 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 4: because you can recreate or create something else. Let me 765 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: and chat with this one though, not just passion, but 766 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 4: the spiritual. We had a very spiritual connection with you know, 767 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: our own you know, with our own spiritual connection with God. 768 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: And that has a lot to do with a lot 769 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 4: of people commit suicide, they drink or they get drugs, 770 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 4: they get messed up with drugs because you know, you 771 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: have a spiritual foundation and o Urts is pretty tight. 772 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: We communicated with each other. You gotta it's and then, 773 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 4: and I mean you gotta have it's a deep foundation. 774 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 4: You gotta have with God for real, the man above. 775 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: You have to have a spiritual connection. Because this music 776 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: business with TERRYO butt down. 777 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: That's how funny you mentioned that because it was a 778 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: clip of viral clip with Jamaina pre going around and 779 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 2: he was just saying a lot of reasons why these 780 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 2: R and B singers don't sound like any don't sound 781 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: like anything, but you can't really feel anything because they 782 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: don't have that spiritual connection because a lot of the 783 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: singers from back in the day were rooted in the church. 784 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah right, this is the moment of truth. 785 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: Will our guests reveal their. 786 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: Identity or keep it concealed? The choice is yours to 787 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: reveal or conceal? 788 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: What will it be costial? I'm down to reveal when 789 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: you can. 790 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: All right, please introduce yourselves. 791 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 4: What's up everybody? This is camp from moch and Steph. 792 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: Well, what's up y'all? This is Steph. 793 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 4: Who's gonna win a seat? Like Moking and Steph? But 794 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 4: they forgot were the ones that got you talking. That's 795 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: your neck talking negative. 796 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: But we do. 797 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 4: You want to be around like a goo, You want 798 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 4: to be down on spread and hey, it's like, wait, 799 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: I gotta get paid every day, gonna regulate what you 800 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 4: se me the magazine, your man feelix. I'm serving them 801 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 4: coast to coast. I was born to be a star, 802 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 4: pushing up blocks, steady off that yak? 803 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: What this is? Steph? Babe? 804 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: Okay, listen round the applause every morning around us a 805 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: fall listening to Stephanie. When you miss Stephanie, when you 806 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 2: have your next birthday party or whatever you have an event, 807 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: I need to be there. 808 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 4: Because you missed the last one. Because I know it 809 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: that you missed the last one. 810 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: We got to make sure you on that list. 811 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm definitely coming because. 812 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tell you. 813 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 4: I love to laugh, so you're gonna definitely have some 814 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: commedians there. 815 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 3: I love to laugh. We're gonna be laughing girls. 816 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: Oh, already know, already know. And then also the third member, 817 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: miss Monifa, couldn't be with us today, but she is 818 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: here with us in spirit. So thank you ladies for 819 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: joining us. So tell us how did y'all decide on 820 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: your name? Because the name is all three of your 821 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: names combined. 822 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 4: Well, we were actually dancing with some dancers and another guide group. 823 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 4: We were dancing for a show and they were saying, 824 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 4: you know, how do we want to be introduced? And 825 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 4: we was like they were asking us what's our name? 826 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 4: It was like, we don't have a name, and of 827 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 4: course we was thinking of every name with a three 828 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 4: three the hard way, three to three to T. I 829 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 4: don't know. We was just speaking of different three names 830 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: and we happen to be standing in the formation of 831 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,959 Speaker 4: Monifa King and Stephanie. We was just standing there ready 832 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 4: to do our routine, and we didn't come up with anything. 833 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: Nobody was really feeling anything. So the guy was like, well, 834 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 4: what about MOK and Steph the way we were just 835 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: the order we were in, and it right at that moment, 836 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 4: we all just loved it. And then Stephanie was like, well, 837 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 4: what about Steph? Can both? Why can't go the other way? 838 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 4: And we was like, that's true, but the bell just 839 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 4: sounded better that way. So we just all suck with it. 840 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: How do y'all feel? Y'all music has influenced today's R 841 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 2: and B or just music in general. 842 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh, it influenced today's R and B and music in 843 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 4: general because it's so real, Like our song really is timeless, 844 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 4: because there's always a man cheating on a woman, and 845 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 4: there's always a woman taking her man back, and there's 846 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 4: always somebody in a relationship up and now now he's 847 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 4: your man, you know, So that's that cycle is constant. 848 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: It happened before we wrote it and it's gonna happen 849 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 4: after right, So so like TikTok brought us back because 850 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 4: it still goes on. No. I was saying, my daddy 851 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: is in high school, right, so it's so cool they 852 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 4: brought it all back. 853 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 3: One time, she's a cheerlead. I was at her game 854 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 3: and it was bumping my song. I said, what. 855 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 4: The high school wasn't I was like wow, and he 856 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 4: saw on TikTok. They we they you know, they researched it, 857 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 4: which is beautiful. 858 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 3: It's a blessing and we appreciate it. 859 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: Like Kean said, it's a classic song that resonates from 860 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 4: from back in the days to today. People like she said, 861 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 4: I think what really get people going. They everybody tried 862 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: to figure out what we really was talking about. But 863 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 4: it was so many different scenarios in that song. Said 864 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 4: He's mine, right. 865 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: I said it was. It was so it was so 866 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: many scenarios where he's mine mm hm. 867 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 4: Where you know, some people thought that we were saying 868 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 4: we was cool with letting the man cheated on us, 869 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 4: and that wasn't what we were saying. But you know, 870 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 4: we let people have their narrative. It was more like 871 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 4: when we wrote it. We were talking about everybody have 872 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 4: a man before you, and that man might not be 873 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 4: with you no more so now he got somebody else. 874 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 4: But you know, in another scenario, was like, and now 875 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 4: he's with he's mine. You made it, had him once 876 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 4: you would you might have been with her. 877 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: Yea, that was one. 878 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: In the other scenario like kid said one of the 879 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 4: group member's boyfriend, which you know he had cheated on her, 880 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 4: and the girl kept playing on her phone back on 881 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 4: the day, like Mo Mo had a dude and he 882 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: and the girl kept playing on the girl phone constantly. 883 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 4: So we was having jokes and we just it just 884 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 4: turned to joke. We were jokesters. It just turned to 885 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 4: jokes at the jokes at the joke with this girl, 886 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And she made us have 887 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 4: a hit plattin thank you for making us go platting 888 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 4: the baby. 889 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: I know she was tired. 890 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 4: And they playing them at weddings. Now I went to 891 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 4: a wedding, they play our song He's Mine real like, hey, yeah, 892 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: it's the good the wedding song of the year, and 893 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 4: don't forget to add it to your playlist. 894 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 2: But people see out and about and they say they say, 895 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: He's mind is like one of my favorite songs. Like, 896 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 2: how does that make y'all feel when people see y'all, 897 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: like you at the wedding or you at your child school? Like, 898 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: do people recognize that it's y'all that wrote these songs? 899 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think it beaut Yeah, it's it's 900 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 4: a good feeling because you know, from that to when 901 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 4: you even perform on stage, like when like we like 902 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 4: you did, say a wedding, we had went to a 903 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 4: birthday party and they had played it and at the time, 904 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 4: I don't think people knew that it was me and 905 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 4: Kenya there at the birthday party. Right, So sometimes sometimes 906 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 4: your song is bigger than your face, bigger than you name. Yeah, right, 907 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 4: I said, they was blowing, they was seeing, they had 908 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 4: a wonderful time, and then when they found out we 909 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 4: was in attendance, they was blown away. And it was 910 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 4: it was a beautiful feeling just to be laid back, 911 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 4: you know, in the cut right low key and seeing 912 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 4: the energy. 913 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 3: I think that's the one of the best feelings. It is. 914 00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 4: It's a beautiful feeling. 915 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: Also feel like this the video of y'all performing live 916 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: of his Mind that's been going viral lately, have y'all seen. 917 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 4: That we saw the different ones, which one's a couple 918 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 4: of different ones. 919 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: I've seen a couple of them go viral too. 920 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: Well. 921 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the song itself just been going viral again. 922 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah lately I haven't. 923 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been on Instagram, y'all have on the blue 924 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 2: dresses and that performance been going viral. 925 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see a couple of them too. 926 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 4: I've definitely seen a couple of different things that we 927 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 4: had done performing live. 928 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: You know, we still perform live. 929 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 4: So I saw a couple of things going, you know, 930 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 4: going viral, and and it just feels good to see 931 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 4: the energy and of people and how how they respond 932 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 4: to it. I can't say every artist, but I think 933 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 4: since you've been out before, before the social media came 934 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 4: to life, we can handle the criticism better. Like it 935 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: doesn't bove already. We're strong in our conviction. We know 936 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 4: who we are, we know what we did. We wrote ourselves, 937 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 4: and we take responsibility for it. We take responsibility. We 938 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 4: was very when we did it. We did it ourselves. 939 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,479 Speaker 4: Nobody made us write these. Our whole album we wrote 940 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 4: as it is, and that whole album we wrote and 941 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 4: it's like except one song. It was a remake from 942 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: Smokey Robinson. Much loved the Smokey Robinson. But you know, 943 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 4: we wrote everything pretty much. And I think because we 944 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 4: knew who we were, we had no social media, no 945 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 4: distractions like that always say that, And I think we're 946 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 4: very confident who we are because social that's what people's mental. 947 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 4: And I see I see some artists be clapping back 948 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: on like why do you care for me? I want 949 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 4: to be a psychologist for these artists and talk to 950 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: these artis to help them out, because I'm like, who 951 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 4: cares about it? 952 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 3: You don't even know these cats? Why are you. 953 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: Ar And y'all also faced some legal issues with his mind, 954 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: which I thought that was a lot of important lessons 955 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: that y'all shared. So can you share what those challenges 956 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: were and how they affected your experience with the song? 957 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 2: Because if I'm not mistaken this Stephanie, you didn't want 958 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the song after y'all went through it, right, I. 959 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 3: Sure didn't didn't. 960 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 4: I didn't want that to be the single because once 961 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 4: I started learning the business. That's another thing we talked 962 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 4: about in our book called Unfinished Business that will be 963 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 4: coming out soon. We talk about how like you know you. 964 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 4: I was not happy about once I found out what 965 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 4: they were trying to take. Because see, in this business, 966 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 4: when you when you uh, I don't just say like 967 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 4: copy another person's song or I don't want to say copy, 968 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 4: but you know, when you you might be like yes, sample, yeah, 969 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 4: thank you. The producer that produced it was an amazing produce. 970 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 4: His name is Henry, A wonderful. He's a live he's 971 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 4: not just a producer, but he's a live musician. Amazing. Yeah, 972 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 4: he's very amazed. So I think what was crazy about 973 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 4: our situation. He played these samples live, but in court 974 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 4: it was like he was like, I didn't copy off 975 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 4: whatever happened, He didn't copy off for print. It was 976 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 4: like Prince the Wonderful, Prince Rescis Soul and Roger and Zapp. 977 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 4: So our song had those type of you know, samples 978 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 4: in it, but he replayed it, didn't wait in court. 979 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: He replayed it and did a whole nother little twist 980 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 4: to it a little bit. 981 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 3: But for the you know, for the as. 982 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 4: Far as the court they saw it looking like, oh 983 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 4: this is a Prince sample. This is so we didn't 984 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 4: look we in that, but we wasn't even a part 985 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 4: of that whole suit. We didn't even know until it 986 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 4: came back to us and I said, well, I'm good, 987 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 4: let's just do Sex and the Ring. That's our other single. 988 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 4: We wrote it, he lied, played it, no samples, you 989 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 990 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm good. 991 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 4: So you know, at that time, I was not feeling 992 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 4: to put it out because once I realized how much 993 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 4: money they're gonna be taking from that, I was like, oh, 994 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 4: wait a minute, hold up, we're not really getting nothing 995 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 4: from it. 996 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 3: Voted, I got out voted. Basically, I was out voted. 997 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 3: But it's all good now. 998 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know y'all have a book coming out, 999 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 2: and I'm sure this would be covering more in detail. 1000 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: But can y'all share y'all decision or the reason why 1001 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 2: y'all stepped away from music? 1002 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 4: It's in the book. You got any any thing you 1003 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 4: can say without saying so something. 1004 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 3: It's. 1005 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 4: It's definitely in the book. And you get to find 1006 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 4: see what's cool about the book. It's like it's three perspectives. 1007 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 4: Like you know, when people write books, you don't have 1008 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 4: everybody brightening. It might be one person telling their story 1009 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 4: by theyself. But in this situation, it's a mocking steph book. 1010 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 4: That's three perspectives and you get to find out like 1011 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 4: who who walked away first? 1012 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: And like how it? You know, what's that chapter we 1013 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: got caught in? 1014 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 4: Oh you put me on spot? 1015 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 3: It's in the book, So. 1016 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 4: Just a chapter that explained the fallout there you go. 1017 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 2: Do y'all have any regrets about the decision looking back 1018 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: now about stepping away and leaving the music industry? 1019 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 4: I don't, not, Stephanie. 1020 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't like it at all, and I 1021 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: talked about in the book. 1022 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 4: So that's why I said the three perspectives, you're going 1023 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 4: to find out who did what and why that person 1024 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 4: did it. But I would say for myself, just to 1025 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 4: give you like a little bit, I was not feeling 1026 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 4: that decision. 1027 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, process of elimination. 1028 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, you know. 1029 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 2: I feel like y'all have just had so much talent. 1030 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean, y'all was dancers, y'all was singers, y'all was rappers, 1031 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 2: y'all was fly, y'all had personality. Do y'all believe y'all 1032 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 2: had a first shot? 1033 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 1034 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 2: Do y'all feel like the label knew what they was 1035 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 2: doing with y'all. 1036 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 4: They didn't have They didn't have maybe, girl, you said 1037 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 4: the right now and we talk about in the book. 1038 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 3: It's so funny. We talk about that in the book. 1039 00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: But no, they didn't understand that. 1040 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were very were very creative, right and thank 1041 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 4: you for that compliment. 1042 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 3: We were very creative. 1043 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 4: We had some ideas that Missy Elliott did later on 1044 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 4: her video. 1045 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 3: We we love Missy Ellie. We was crazy. 1046 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 4: Miss had track or I had that idea and told 1047 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 4: them way before Missy came out with it. And I 1048 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: love Missy because she was created her her people had 1049 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 4: her back. Yes, we was crazy talking like that. We 1050 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 4: was like, oh we want to do this, Yeah, almost 1051 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 4: idea that we a lot of ideas that we came out. 1052 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 4: We saw it come out in other groups and we 1053 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 4: would get so frustrated because it's like we would have 1054 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 4: been the ones the first to show that VII do 1055 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 4: that we did, and it was just they made it 1056 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 4: seem like we didn't know what we was talking about, 1057 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 4: or it was so hard to put together, or oh 1058 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 4: we can't do that or whatever the flat back was. 1059 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 4: They just wasn't feeling it. But we knew what we 1060 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 4: wanted to do. So our wasn't all the way for 1061 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 4: us like we wanted them to be, or like they 1062 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 4: should have been. Mm hmm. Add to what King is 1063 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 4: saying when he said about a fair shot. You know what, 1064 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 4: we are thankful for our blessings that we did receive, 1065 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 4: but no, did we get a fair shot in certain 1066 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 4: things because you know why, because we spoke our mind. 1067 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 4: We was very real and we wasn't like, yes, kiss 1068 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 4: ass group. A lot of groups are they kiss a 1069 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 4: lot of ass? No, it's a lot of ass. They 1070 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 4: want to be so you know, they want they want 1071 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 4: to make it so they're gonna do everything that they 1072 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 4: tell them. 1073 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 3: We would we would say no, mm hmm. 1074 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 4: We would say we ain't showing our asses like that, 1075 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 4: opening our croaches to do a video. She ain't doing 1076 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 4: all that. We're not wearing Playboy. We're gonna be sexy out. 1077 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 4: We want to be sexy. Listen. 1078 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 2: I just know once I get a good with y'all, 1079 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 2: I can't wait to keep it she got. 1080 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 4: Because I know she. 1081 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 2: Right performance. 1082 00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be right there. 1083 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 2: Because I had a version, because I know miss definitely 1084 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 2: was nothing to play with. Baby, No, ma'am Okay, we 1085 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: almost finisheduff y'all can go back and do anything differently 1086 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 2: in your music career, what would it be and. 1087 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 4: Why really standing up to the labels and really standing 1088 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 4: firm and not just swaying with the I for me, 1089 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 4: not just swaying with the idea just to you know, 1090 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 4: a piece the group or a piece the group, just 1091 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 4: really just staying true to who I was, because who 1092 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 4: I was was what I see right now, you know, 1093 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 4: like starting out as new artists, it's like, oh, I 1094 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 4: should have just stayed that way. I shouldn't have changed 1095 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 4: my lyrics, or I shouldn't have not wrote on this 1096 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 4: song or whatever, and just always stand in your ground. 1097 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 4: Like for me, I wish I would always did that 1098 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 4: because the artists after us, we're doing it and it's 1099 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:04,280 Speaker 4: just snowball into what it is now. I would say maybe, 1100 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 4: but taking a certain I would say, like we should 1101 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 4: have took this publishing deal. 1102 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 2: We were like, we were very like the one with 1103 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,240 Speaker 2: Randy Jackson. 1104 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 3: We were. 1105 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, with Randy Jackson, he was all good, that 1106 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 4: was a good situation, but he ended up getting a 1107 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 4: job with an American IDOL. So that's how I knew 1108 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 4: that that would have been a great situation. He was 1109 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 4: very he was feeling us. He was at MCA Records 1110 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 4: at that time, so that was a very good look. 1111 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 3: So no, it wasn't. It was a publishing deal. 1112 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 4: Like in this business, you have to see where writers, right, 1113 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 4: So when you're a songwriter, you can say no or 1114 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 4: yes to a publishing deal. So I think we would 1115 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 4: have got a lot more money if we would have 1116 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 4: said yes to it was a publish deal that was 1117 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 4: being offered to us, and we was like, no, we 1118 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 4: weren't all on song like you now, what's his name. 1119 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 3: And what's his name? 1120 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 4: He's an artist, dang I just lost his name, but 1121 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 4: he was a solo artist and his mother back in 1122 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 4: the days, dang I cannot forget it better than his name. 1123 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 3: I'm so mad. 1124 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 4: But anyway I'm saying this to say is that his 1125 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 4: mother made the decision to be like, you know what, 1126 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep, We're not gonna sell and do the 1127 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 4: and it worked for him, the publishing deal. 1128 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 3: He's he he's see. 1129 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 4: Very successful, very financially well off. But his mother made 1130 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 4: and we did the same thing. But for us, because 1131 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 4: of the sampling and because of the editor. That's why 1132 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 4: you got and that's how we talk about in our 1133 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 4: book you have to be educated when you get to 1134 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 4: these labels. At the beginning, there were some things that 1135 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 4: we lacked knowledge of, and because we were songwriters and 1136 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 4: it was a sample that he was not aware of, 1137 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 4: that was gonna be taking majority of the funds, ninety 1138 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 4: percent of the money. We could have did a publish deal, 1139 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 4: made so much money off of that because we were 1140 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 4: writers and write for other people. But we said, oh, no, 1141 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 4: you're a publish deal. So I regret that me because 1142 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 4: we would have got more. Would have said yes to 1143 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 4: that published See puppies dealer. They'll get you like a 1144 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 4: million or whatever the case may be. Whatever you negotiate, 1145 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 4: and you don't know what your that's gonna be. It's 1146 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 4: like it's like a publishing company taking a risk on 1147 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 4: your Yeah, take it like, oh, I'm gonna give them 1148 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 4: a million. 1149 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 3: This song is so hot, I'm gonna give them a 1150 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,760 Speaker 3: million or whatever. 1151 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 4: We should have said yes to those to that particular 1152 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 4: situation instead of saying no, we said no. I can 1153 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 4: see why we said no because we wrote it. But 1154 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 4: then once the politics come behind the sampling, that was 1155 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 4: a lot of money that was taken away from us. 1156 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 2: What brought y'all back together? Was it the book? 1157 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 3: Yep, it was the book. 1158 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 4: Wanted to tell our story. Wanted to tell our story 1159 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 4: because it was unfinished. That's why it's titled Unfinished Business, 1160 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 4: because there was things that needed to be talked about, 1161 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 4: and this was a segue to get you know, once 1162 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 4: we put this book out, we knew shows and people 1163 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 4: were going to be inquiring about us, which just happened, 1164 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: and you know, and that would be a chance for 1165 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 4: us to finish what we wanted to do and get 1166 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 4: our story out there at the same time providing information 1167 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 4: for those coming behind us. So we will all tell 1168 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 4: our perspective on a certain situation, whether it was good, bad, 1169 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 4: or ugly. But then there was a lesson behind that 1170 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 4: as well. So and so, like I told you earlier, 1171 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 4: it's a great read, it's entertaining, It got t and information. 1172 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 3: Now. 1173 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 4: I like the photos because cannot get those thirty five 1174 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 4: millimeters camera. 1175 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 3: Photos back in the day. 1176 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,280 Speaker 4: After you see with certain people and like the stories 1177 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 4: what was going Let me, you don't look at the 1178 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 4: picture and you'd be like, I wonder what they was 1179 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 4: doing in this picture? We talk about what we're doing 1180 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 4: in that picture, right, whether it's what be Daddy came. 1181 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 3: Mary J. 1182 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 4: Blige or whatever whoever he was in contact with. We 1183 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 4: talk about those moments and I think and it makes 1184 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 4: a very good read because you I know me, I 1185 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,439 Speaker 4: don't time be looking in the picture and I'd be like, damn, 1186 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 4: I wonder what was going on? Right, But that's something 1187 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 4: that's not We're talking about it from back in the days, 1188 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 4: and it's ours our and Kenya was our little photographer 1189 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 4: back then. Now people have photographers going with She was 1190 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 4: the photographer, she was the historian selfie. 1191 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 2: But in one of your interviews I was listening to, 1192 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 2: someone mentioned that y'all regret that y'all didn't take y'all, 1193 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 2: y'all didn't jump in on the internet when they started 1194 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 2: booming so with social media. Do y'all remember that somebody 1195 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 2: saying that, like somebody had to regret that. I think 1196 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 2: somebody was telling y'all, y'all trying to figure things out 1197 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 2: after your contract, y'all, y'all trying to figure out what 1198 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 2: would be the next move, and the guy was like, 1199 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 2: y'all need to do get into the internet, Like y'all 1200 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 2: need to get started with that. So being as social 1201 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: media is what it is today, do y'all think that 1202 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: y'all journey may have been different if y'all would to 1203 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,280 Speaker 2: embrace it the internet. 1204 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 4: Yes, because of the simple fact that's something and just 1205 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 4: embracing the internet would have brought something different. But it's 1206 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 4: like we our career went through that transition, and that's 1207 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 4: one of the reasons why we was always like a 1208 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 4: beat behind. So we were in the old school way 1209 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 4: of doing music. Then it started going into MP three's, 1210 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 4: and then the music industry got scared because they was 1211 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 4: losing music and money, you know, because people can download 1212 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 4: it for free, so you were losing it. Then it 1213 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 4: went to the CDs, and then then we kept going 1214 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 4: through the changes and transitions. So when you had a 1215 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 4: deal with somebody like I forgot his name already, that 1216 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 4: went to we were just talking about him, he was 1217 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 4: had a writing deal for us. Oh well, when we 1218 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 4: were in there in talks with him, the company changes. 1219 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 3: He moves on. So every time we met somebody that. 1220 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 4: Were changes in the industry or changes with their department, 1221 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 4: so that would change whatever deal we had in motion. 1222 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 4: So if we would have been able to, you know, 1223 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 4: cap jump in and capitalize on that. Of course things 1224 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 4: would have been different, and we did, but again we 1225 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 4: was always that beat behind behind, right, yeah, constantly changing. 1226 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 4: People didn't know their next move, right or what's the 1227 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,919 Speaker 4: best move. And thank god for me and King having 1228 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 4: degrees because you know, outside from this, I was a teacher, 1229 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 4: right I tickled. I mean I still rapping, like doing 1230 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 4: stuff like I did, like some stuff my teachers with 1231 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 4: different people forty. Yeah, I was doing stuff like with 1232 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 4: E forty with like different features with the relatives neop 1233 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 4: dog like I have like features of me rapping on 1234 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 4: my own. But you know like that, I mean I 1235 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 4: did stuff, but I also became a teacher and kind 1236 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 4: of put that in my teaching and I would do 1237 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 4: our little rides for my my my students and stuff 1238 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 4: like that. But you know, it was one of those 1239 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 4: things like I said, it was like so you know, 1240 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 4: everybody was losing money because if you remember the CD burning, 1241 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 4: people was burning them CDs and so artists was not 1242 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 4: making money. Instead of me being on drugs, I said, 1243 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 4: let me use my degree. 1244 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and you. 1245 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 4: Know, see if we can get back in this game, 1246 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 4: and you know, that's how to and that's how the fallout, 1247 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 4: you know, it's part of the fallout happened. But I 1248 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 4: still was still actively working doing stuff with other people, 1249 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 4: but not remota step, not us as a group, because 1250 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 4: I loved it so much, of this so much so. 1251 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 2: So what advice would you give to young women who 1252 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 2: are just now entering the music industry today based on 1253 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 2: your experiences. 1254 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 4: I would say, be very anything that you're involved in, 1255 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 4: know what you're getting into. Know what you're getting into. 1256 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 4: Make sure you have an attorney, Do not take a 1257 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 4: lot in and be so don't be so excited to 1258 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 4: be down. Don't be so excited to be involved, Like, 1259 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 4: make sure your business sounding And you know what, now, 1260 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 4: you don't really need a label. You can do this 1261 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 4: stuff independ if you're willing to do the work. You 1262 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 4: have to do the work. Though, you can be independent 1263 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 4: and make your own and that's the and that's a 1264 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 4: good thing for them. Now you don't need a label 1265 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 4: to make you who you are. You got to support 1266 00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 4: from social media and you can get that instant grati vacation. 1267 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 4: But you still want to know when all that money 1268 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,439 Speaker 4: come to you. You want to know how you deal 1269 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 4: with it financially. Management, business management. You got to have 1270 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 4: your business in order right because you don't know it 1271 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 4: happened so quick. It can happen so fast next one 1272 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 4: day you could be talking like right now next to 1273 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 4: your millionaire. 1274 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 3: Or you can make it. 1275 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 4: You know, you can be doing so you have to 1276 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 4: know what you're getting involved in so you can keep 1277 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 4: the success going for yourself. 1278 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 2: And last one, not least, what do you think is 1279 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 2: the legacy of Mocha stuff. 1280 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 4: I think the legacy would probably ben being authentic. We 1281 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 4: was always authentic. I think our legacy of being authentic 1282 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 4: and no one can say that we you know, we 1283 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 4: never we never backed down on who we were, even 1284 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 4: though there was there was some moments that we did 1285 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 4: like kind of had to change some stuff up and 1286 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 4: we couldn't be ourself with our music. But when it 1287 01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 4: came down to our dignity, we can't. We We wasn't 1288 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 4: out there, you know, having sex with different artists. We 1289 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 4: wasn't doing stuff. We wasn't playing ourself like that. We 1290 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 4: were very you know, we was very smart about that. 1291 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 4: Our dignity meant a lot. Ourentegreave meant a lot to us. 1292 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 4: We can go to bed at night. I think we 1293 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 4: can go to bed at night and be like we 1294 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 4: didn't We didn't sell our soul, right right, Like I 1295 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 4: think I think one I think one artists say this. 1296 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 4: I think it's Maya. Maya's kind of like us. She 1297 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 4: she didn't sell us. So it's like we didn't sell 1298 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 4: our soul. And I think the authenticity of our music 1299 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 4: it lives long because nobody wrote it for us. 1300 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 3: We wrote it ourselves. 1301 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 4: It was us as a collective doing what we needed 1302 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 4: to do, from dancing to sing it. 1303 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 3: So no one could take that away from us, no one, 1304 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 3: right right. 1305 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely and miss Kenya. I really enjoyed y'all 1306 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: on the show. I'm so happy that we were able 1307 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 2: to do this, and I cannot wait for my audience 1308 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 2: to hear this because I feel like I grew up 1309 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 2: on your music and I had a memory that completely forgot. 1310 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 2: But I remember y'all being on all that. 1311 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 3: Girl. I know, girl, that was such a fun moment. 1312 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 3: All that. I loved all. 1313 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 4: That, right that was when you saw that that that 1314 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 4: stuff was so much fun. 1315 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that was such a vibe. 1316 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,919 Speaker 4: Like I missed shows like that, So when you talking 1317 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 4: about certain I missed shows. 1318 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 3: Like that like all that. That was the wonderful. It 1319 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,439 Speaker 3: was very fun. 1320 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 4: Like you know, I think Saturday Life is like more 1321 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 4: like that, but you know, Saturday Life kind of give 1322 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 4: that in an adult version that that was a fun vibe. 1323 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 2: No, I mean too. I mean the nineties itself was 1324 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 2: just that that's an error where you just you can't 1325 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 2: duplicate it, like you just had to be there. 1326 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 4: You just had to be there and and girl and 1327 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 4: you know you had to be there. And it's so 1328 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 4: funny that I think that that's what I like about 1329 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 4: our book because let me tell you, I was like, Dad, 1330 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 4: I can't believe you got a picture of this. It's 1331 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 4: certain things that you be tripping off of, Like wow, 1332 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 4: we had a picture of this and it was so 1333 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 4: long ago, you know what I mean. That's what That's 1334 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 4: what makes it so beautiful because you know now you 1335 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 4: can see everything so quick, right, but just imagine all 1336 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 4: these pictures of stuff you like, wow, look house, I 1337 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 4: used to look out. We even cracked jokes, even in 1338 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 4: our book. We cracked jokes about ourselves how crazy we looked. 1339 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 4: On a couple of moments were like why did we 1340 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 4: let them do this? It's like like we we are 1341 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 4: very talking about other people, but we're talking about we 1342 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 4: have jokes for ourselves as well. 1343 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 3: It's funny. 1344 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 4: It's a picture with the Brat. The Brat and Jermaine Dupree, 1345 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 4: we was at like a show performing. They was like 1346 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 4: in the front road watching us, Like those are beautiful 1347 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 4: moments seeing them like so in tune watching us perform 1348 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 4: back and before they before they was even like hot, 1349 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 4: they was watching us at like a They used to 1350 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 4: do these major like show showcases right and the label, 1351 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 4: whatever label was signed to, they would be proud to 1352 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 4: to you know, to promote their acts, so you'll be 1353 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 4: performed for all kinds of industry people. It wasn't even 1354 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 4: like outside people's more industry driven, so only people that 1355 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 4: was in the industry got to go to least things. 1356 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 4: So so when I see this picture of the Brad 1357 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 4: and Jermaine the Prey always were so tight and they 1358 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 4: still tied to this day and it's just nice to 1359 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 4: see them right next to each other watching us in 1360 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 4: the front row performing. Yeah, you know, it's it's amazing, 1361 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 4: you know. 1362 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 2: So ladies, tell us what is this book coming out? 1363 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 2: And also let everyone know where they can follow you at. 1364 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 4: Please follow us at the Real moch and Steph Instagram, 1365 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 4: at the Real moch and Stuff Facebook, at the Real 1366 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 4: molch and Stuff uh website. Everything is the Real moch 1367 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 4: and Steph except for the website is mochusteph dot com. 1368 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 4: Thank you, m ok and stm mochusteff dot com. Up 1369 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 4: finished business. We will be definitely selling you know, real soon. 1370 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 4: It's coming soon. We're so excited about it. 1371 01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 3: We're done with it. 1372 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 4: We was just you know, doing It's like so we 1373 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 4: have to hurry, but let it go because you know, 1374 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 4: stuff be happening to well, I got to go back 1375 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 4: and say this right, let it go and I and 1376 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 4: we feel like going now, but we just have to. 1377 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 3: Stop. 1378 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 2: Edity definitely give me a post on the book so 1379 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 2: we can have you back on the show so we 1380 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 2: can talk more in debt about your journey once the 1381 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 2: book comes out. But I'm definitely looking forward to supporting 1382 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 2: and also sharing it with my listeners. 1383 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh yes, it's gonna be awesome. You know what I 1384 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 3: love about you? Girl? You did your homework. 1385 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 4: Don't play with the girl you are about that, I'm 1386 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 4: telling you it feels so And let me tell you 1387 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 4: some about artists. Artists really appreciate you people when they 1388 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 4: interview and they know they know who they're talking to. 1389 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was really I told Miss Kenyan before 1390 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 2: you join. I'm like, it's really an ardor to have 1391 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,919 Speaker 2: you all. Have you all all because I remember seeing 1392 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 2: you to this day, I still seen y'all songs, so 1393 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that hearing y'all show, yeah, I'm pretty 1394 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 2: sure once my listeners hear your show, they're going to 1395 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 2: be even more excited that you were a part of 1396 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 2: the Professional Homegirl Podcast. So I really appreciate y'all, ladies. 1397 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 4: Now, yes, come on, I love it. 1398 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll see y'all some shirts and stuff so y'all 1399 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 2: can wear it. 1400 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 4: So I definitely, yes, definitely, definitely, we're gonna tag you girl. 1401 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna tag you queen. Yes, yes, yes. 1402 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 2: And to the listeners, if you have any questions, comments, 1403 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 2: or concerns, please make sure to email me and hello 1404 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 2: at the PHG podcast dot com. This has been a pleasure, ladies, 1405 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 2: and I am so appreciative of you all. So until 1406 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 2: next time, everyone, ladies and gentlemen, mooking stuff, thank. 1407 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 4: You, laughing, light bag bag, thank you. 1408 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,919 Speaker 2: The Professional Homegirl Podcast is a production of the Black 1409 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 2: Effect podcast Network. 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