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Speaker 2: On Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: We go here, we go on the Giants Bob, Let's

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Speaker 1: go part of the Giants Podcast Yet Work. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Giants Huddle Podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: John Schmulk with a familiar face. They're very well dressed

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Speaker 2: and maybe the nicest guy player that has set foot

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Speaker 2: in this building. Prince of Mukamara. Prince, how are you, man,

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 3: To see you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, man. It was yeah, it's definitely emotional day,

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Speaker 4: but I'm doing good. Now.

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Speaker 2: All right, we just had your press conference.

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Speaker 1: Why, in your own words, was it important for you

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Speaker 1: to come back here to make your retirement official.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So, I mean I haven't played, I think in

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Speaker 4: a game I think in like two years, just about.

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Speaker 4: And so I was in the twenty right right right,

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Speaker 4: and so I was, I was on I was basically

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Speaker 4: not not playing. But I think, like I said in

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Speaker 4: my speech, I think it's speak because started here, right,

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Speaker 4: we won a Super Bowl. I feel like I'm treated

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Speaker 4: like family every time I'm inside these buildings and then

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Speaker 4: even outside, like the New York Giants brand is global,

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Speaker 4: and so everywhere that I that I go, I'm known

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Speaker 4: as I'm known as a Giant, and so it just

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Speaker 4: it just made sense. And so when my agents called

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Speaker 4: Pat Handling and the PR team, it was, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised that they said yes, just

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Speaker 4: because I've been here since twenty fifteen and I really

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Speaker 4: haven't seen anybody do something like this. I think the

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Speaker 4: last person was Eli, but it was right after.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jesse Armsteage came back and did it.

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Speaker 1: I think back, oh twenty and ten maybe something like that,

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Speaker 1: So it's in a while, okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean definitely grateful to the mayors and

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Speaker 4: the Tish family just for allowing me to do this,

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Speaker 4: And to be honest, it was it was more for

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Speaker 4: my family and just thanking them on on a bigger

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Speaker 4: stage for just giving me this opportunity, for allowing me

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Speaker 4: to play a game that I love so much.

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Speaker 2: You know, Once a giant, always a giant.

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Speaker 1: It's not something that you just say, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they do mean it here like they're not messing around.

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Speaker 4: No, they are not. And when I shook John Mayer's

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Speaker 4: hand after my speech, He reminded me of that, Hey man,

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Speaker 4: once a giant, always a giant, And again I think

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Speaker 4: that's that's true. It's not just lip service. They literally

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Speaker 4: roll out the red carpet for you if you if

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Speaker 4: you put on this uniform in the helmet.

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Speaker 1: And you know, let's go back now, twenty eleven draft, Right,

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Speaker 1: you get drafted here, I think you probably dropped a

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Speaker 1: little bit further down than you thought you would in

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Speaker 1: that first round. The Giants were thrilled to have you.

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Speaker 1: When when you were sitting there on the board, what

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Speaker 1: was your first reaction that, who.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to New York. Now that's a

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Speaker 2: little different than Nebraska.

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Speaker 4: Right right, all right? Yeah, And so I was, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was projected top ten, and so I thought I

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Speaker 4: And what happened in the draft is there were just

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Speaker 4: on that that wasn't expected to go. That went the

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Speaker 4: It was Pat p who was first, and then it

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Speaker 4: got a call from a two zero one number, I

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Speaker 4: was I never met with them at the combine, and

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Speaker 4: so it was just it was foreign to me. And

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Speaker 4: when when the call, when I answered the call and

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Speaker 4: and then it didn't dawn up on me that I

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Speaker 4: But I'm definitely grateful to get the call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when the draft was in New York, full

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Speaker 1: That was actually at that draft covering that I think

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Speaker 1: Mike that you probably shot you after that draft pick,

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Speaker 1: which is fun. And then you know you kind of

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Speaker 1: showed up to New York and correct me if you know,

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Speaker 1: a little wide eyed, still trying to figure things out

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Speaker 1: in life.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, how.

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Speaker 1: Did being here in New York with the giants in

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Speaker 1: this organization help you go from college kid to NFL man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to say it in my speech. There

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Speaker 4: was uh it was it was just too much going on.

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Speaker 4: But me being drafted here was was the best thing

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Speaker 4: for me. I wouldn't say that I needed structure. I

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Speaker 4: me last as long as as I did. And it

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Speaker 4: has nothing to do with play, because you could, you

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Speaker 4: could be the most talented and the best player, but

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Speaker 4: because if you're off the field actions or whatever, you

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Speaker 4: no hats, it's it's it's about the Wii and and

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Speaker 4: and not the me. It's it's about team. Like just

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Speaker 4: knowing that having my my vets, like Corey Webster intro role,

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Speaker 4: then when I went from here to Jacksonville then here

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Speaker 5: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 5: So go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country.

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Speaker 5: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 5: you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And look, that was a special dB group, right, you

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Speaker 1: Grant and Webster. Just talk a little bit about that group,

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Speaker 1: and you called them and that team special a lot

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Speaker 2: What made them special to you?

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Speaker 4: They were not only were they talented, but like the

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Speaker 4: camaraderie that we had, like doing dB dinners every week

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Speaker 4: And so I think that that went along, That went

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Tom Coughlin.

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Speaker 1: Do you have the career that you have if he

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Speaker 1: wasn't your first head coach?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not like he he was. He his expectation, Like

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Speaker 4: I always thought that my expectation for myself was high,

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Speaker 4: he there was never no no excuses, right, you're you're

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Speaker 4: so I mean just the mental toughness, the mental aspect part.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I got that a lot from from

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Speaker 4: coach Coughlin. And he he was. He was a no

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Speaker 4: stuff like that. It was good for us to see

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Speaker 1: Peter Genta, right, he was your dv's coach, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Just just awesome? I mean him and Coach Merritt just

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Speaker 4: Genta over at the Saints. Yeah, and it was it

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Speaker 4: was great to see him there too.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as a rookie, then you come in

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Speaker 4: It set me back in a sense of I didn't

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Speaker 4: everyone the difference between college players and the pro players.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not it's not like the pro players

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Speaker 4: not a big difference in that. But it's just that

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Speaker 4: the sense of a physical specimen, but what's going exactly,

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Speaker 4: And so when going on the field, it just seemed

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Speaker 4: Young threw to Deshaun and so you see Aaron entro

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Speaker 4: Roll comes off the field for whatever reason, Prince get in?

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Speaker 4: Should I get in? And then I'm line up against

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Speaker 4: the Seaan Jackson already know he's one of the fastest

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Speaker 4: guys in the league right now, and he's Vince Vince

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Speaker 4: and he's pointed at me, and I already knew what

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Speaker 4: I bailed and ran the go route for him and

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Speaker 4: I got a pick, and yeah, great moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that game.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't have the benefit of seeing NFL preseason,

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Speaker 1: which is a speed level up, but it's still not

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Speaker 1: regular season, right, So you just went right from college

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Speaker 1: to Giants and Eagles right at home, fans going nuts,

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Speaker 1: Vince Young, former Heisman Trophy winner, right, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know what was that like? First game against Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: Just having to dip your foot in the pool and

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Speaker 3: Of the rest.

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Speaker 3: To they just got a safety, just two points. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: You love turf, You're good at it. So you started

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right.

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Speaker 1: So what's next for Prince besides childcare, which I know

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Speaker 2: Uh, what what's next for you? You know?

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Speaker 4: No, not yet. I mean I've I don't want to

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Speaker 4: So, but is there a second career that I'm heading

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Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah, I mean because because you know, like

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Speaker 2: That's good dude.

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Speaker 1: Prince, it was great seeing you man. Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations Always once a Giant, always a.

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Speaker 4: Giant, was a giant.

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