1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: I'm never told your production of I Heart Media. So 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: as this publishes, Um, it is June tent here in America, 4 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: which is a national holiday celebrating the end of slavery. Um, 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: so that's June, because you know, who knows when you 6 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: were actually listening to this, right of course, everything is 7 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: always a little different in podcast world, and then put 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: onto that pandemic world, that just changes dates altogether. Right, Yeah, 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was like August yesterday, right, so, and 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: it is not. It is. I just figured out it 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: wasn't February. So we're doing really well, which I can't 12 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: even say the word February really Uh so that's even 13 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: more fun. One of my least favorite months because I 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: can't say it and I have to completely say it 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: all the time because it's for some reason that's when 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: time stopped. Yeah, it's like the last time we were 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: out right essentially it was March, but we were under 18 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: the panic, was starting to get into the panic mode 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: of that. But for those of you who are not 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: in the US, Um, June again, as you was saying, 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: was the celebration at the end of slavery, and honestly, 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: it actually hasn't come to the forefront. Two. I guess um, 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what else say other than white culture, 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: um main culture because it is dictated by white culture 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: in the U. S uh for many people, because we 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: liked to neglect history, especially when it's something that as 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: as divisive as race. And even though you would make 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: it makes sense because it was a good thing and 29 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: we should celebrate, um, the end of something so horrid. 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: But as you can tell, with all the protests and 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: all of the things that are happening in the US, 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: we're not always on the same page, and it sucks, 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: but we will definitely think that is an important and 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: we didn't want to talk about it. And I will 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: say from my own ignorance, I didn't learn about Juneteenth 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: until I started working when I was in my government job, 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: and the majority of the workers in my field are 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: people of color. So when I had heard of Juneteenth 39 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: and I was like, what is that? It really was 40 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: about fifteen years ago that I actually learned about it. 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: And it's obnoxious and so sad to me that it 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: took that long, and it took into my mid twenties 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: to know what the hell was happening? Yeah, yeah, I 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: feel like I learned about it in high school and civics, 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: but it was sort of just like maybe literally a sentence. Um. 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: And then when I moved to Atlanta, I did but yeah, yeah, 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: it's a shame. UM. So for that sort of related 48 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: we thought we would do an episode on women and 49 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: organizing since we are seeing that a lot of that 50 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: right now, and that is a space that black women 51 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: have shown a lot of leadership in now and historically, 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: and so there's a lot of ground to cover and 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: this and this one. So it's a two parter and 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: pretty much everything we mentioned could be an entire episode. 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: Everything and everyone, UM, And if you want, if you're 56 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: listening and there's a specific topic or person that you 57 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: want us to focus it on for an entire episode, 58 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: as always, let us know we're happy to hear from you. UM. 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Also disclaimer, almost everything and everyone we're talking about, UM, 60 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: we're a part of they were a part of several 61 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: complex social narratives. And there's a whole history behind every 62 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: story we're telling of unrest that culminated into a specific 63 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: thing or things that they're known for. I just want 64 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: to put that out there because some of these protests 65 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: are marches, we're going to mention there was just so 66 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: much leading up to them. And sometimes it can sound like, oh, 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: there was one event and people protested it, but almost 68 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: always there were so much history that was leading up 69 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: to that thing, right, and just to add to that, 70 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: as she is saying, yes, these are such broad topics 71 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: as well as the fact that these people are iconic. 72 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: If we were mentioning them that, yeah, we kind of 73 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: just dumped it down to three sentences, maybe because we 74 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: were just thought that it was so important that we 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: do at least talk a little bit about them and 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: if nothing else, a yes, let us know. If you 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: were like, hey, tell me more about this one. Can 78 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: you please research it or be you can research it yourself, um, 79 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: which is fantastic because I will tell you trying to 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: research this, I had ten thousand tabs up and it 81 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: completely drove me a little over the edge because there's 82 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: so much and trying to narrow down some of this 83 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: conversation was it felt like I was sacked facing things 84 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: because I wanted to talk so much about so many things. 85 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: But yes, this ended up being a two parter, and overall, 86 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: FEMS women who are and those who identify as females 87 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: who are just badasses that came together and had enough 88 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: and said this is what we're gonna do. Also, Yes, 89 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: as we said earlier, it's been a very long month, UM, 90 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: but honestly it's been productive. And I say that due 91 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: to the fact of the many tragedies and injustices that 92 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: have played our nation, and that we've been ignoring um 93 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: and pretty much everywhere for well, I guess kind of 94 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: since the beginning of time. Let's just say it that way. 95 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: With the tragedies and murders of the people of the 96 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: black community, people have come together and are following the 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: lead of the black community to protests and speak out 98 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: against injustices with rallies, gathering and marches, and so we 99 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: kind of wanted to honor what's going on, to talk 100 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: about historical context of what some marches or protests were 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: able to accomplish or have done, or why it was important. 102 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: And as a result of people organizing and being out 103 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: in the streets every day, we are seeing changes and 104 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: in the United States, even if we look at just 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: public opinion or or actual changes in in things like 106 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: um policing and a lot of the steps we have 107 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: seen are small, and we need to take more steps. 108 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: But but that is encouraging. We are seeing things happen 109 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: because directly because of people doing this work. UM. And 110 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: as we we've seen that if you look back in history, UM, 111 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the effectiveness and the power in protesting and marching. So yeah, 112 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: we are going to be doing a quick rundown or 113 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: spotlight on some of the big big events in history 114 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to that. UM. And yeah, this is 115 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: a pretty condensed look at those things. And also there's 116 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: just so many uh, we could have talked about. UM. 117 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the underground railroad earlier than organizing 118 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: around that. UM. But yeah, here are some some women 119 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: in their roles in past protests and rebellions that we 120 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: wanted to to highlight today. And we're gonna start outside 121 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: of the US doing a conversation about the women's march 122 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: on for Silles. So during the wild times, yes I 123 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: said the wild times, this is completely inappropriate when talking 124 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: about this, but the wild times of the French Revolution, 125 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: which when French royalty held court in Versailles, due to 126 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: the lack of food and scarcely of bread, a woman 127 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: began marching down the streets with a drama which actually 128 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: garnered a lot of attention, and others began to join 129 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: her march. The numbers grew to be thousands and many 130 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: joined as a part of this uncivil uprising. And though 131 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: it began as a peaceful thing, many of the people 132 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: started gathering weapons like kitchen knives and even muskets and swords. 133 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: They gathered even more weapons and food and essentials from 134 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: the city hall. Uh. The gathering started simply due to 135 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the lack of bread, but grew to be a demand 136 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: to end the food scarcity as well as an idea 137 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: of being armed for the ongoing revolution. And it did. 138 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: It was I'm sure a lot of you know about 139 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: the French Revolution and all of the changes that came 140 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: from that. Uh. Oh my gosh, so many things so 141 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: we can talk about there. But yeah, essentially a woman 142 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: started it, uh, protesting with bread about lack of bread. 143 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: The things I know about the French Revolution include the 144 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: things that I learned from Lamas. So there's that amazing, right. Yes, yes, 145 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I've never seen Lamas, but I love. One of my 146 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: favorite SNL skits is the on Laney Lobster Diner Lobster one, 147 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: so I don't know if I know this one. Oh gosh, 148 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: I yes, yes, um, And we're in a transition, and 149 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: I did want to start talking about Mary Harris Jones, 150 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: otherwise known as Mother Jones, and just in case you 151 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: don't know who she is, we wanted to make sure 152 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: to give you a brief overview of her. So she's 153 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: been discussed before on the show with other hosts when 154 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: they were discussing the Women's March and the Suffragets and 155 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: the labor movement. But you can never have too much information, 156 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: right m That's that's what I say. So. Mary Harris 157 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: Jones was an Irish immigrant who was a leader and 158 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: organizer for many protests and strikes in the labor movement 159 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: in the US. She became an iconic figure to the 160 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: movement with her leading into it as a maternal figurehead 161 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: for the actual movement. So after she lost her entire 162 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: family to yellow fever at the age of thirty, she 163 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: dressed only in black and often wore antique dresses and 164 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: would purposely aged herself to seem more motherly. She was 165 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: known and called Mother Jones or sometimes just Mother during 166 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: her time of activism, and she traveled around the country 167 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: leading strikes and protests for miners, unions and child workers. 168 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: And that's miners as an m I N E r s, 169 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: not like young folks. Um, although she was. She was 170 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: for them to both of um yeah yeah, yeah both. 171 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: In three she organized the March of the Mill Children 172 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: and went from Philadelphia to Long Island, which is where 173 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: President Theodore Roosevelt's summer home was located. Her activism and 174 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: leadership led to the growth of different labor unions as 175 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: well as bringing attention to the corrupt politicians and businesses 176 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: around the country, which I cannot believe happened. That she 177 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: was able to lead. That she was hired all over 178 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: the country to speak out rallies and gatherings throughout the 179 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: labor movement, and she wrote articles from magazines and newspapers 180 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: to rally the working people and become again the figurehead 181 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: for this labor movement. But with all of this, she 182 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: actually was not a fan of women's right to vote. 183 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: She would often state that voting was not what would 184 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: change things and help the suffering of miners and laborers, 185 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: but she would say that voting was a class this 186 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: idea that would not help the poor. She also was 187 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: more into the traditional idea of women keeping their place 188 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: in the home, that cult of domesticity, perhaps saying that 189 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: the husband's and men's job needed to be paid more 190 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: to help maintain this household. So there is that, right. So, 191 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: around the same time, which is why she said all 192 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: these things, the Suffragette movement was happening. Um. And we're 193 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: not going to stick too long on the topic of suffragetts, 194 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: as it's been discussed a few times on the show, 195 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: but we want to do a quick review and also 196 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: take a closer look at the segregation and how the 197 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: black women who were actually part of the movement were 198 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: oftentimes excluded from the conversation or even events. Right. So 199 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: if we start with the Seneca Falls Convention, Um, that 200 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: kind of marked the beginning of the movement, where reformists 201 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Katie Stanton and Lucretia Mott held a meeting in 202 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: eight to discuss the overall issues of rights for women. 203 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: This was during the time of the idea of the 204 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: cult of true womanhood, which was the idea that quote, 205 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: true women were submissive, dutiful to their families and husbands, 206 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: and of course pious. Um. Yeah, yeah, that we both 207 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of made that hand out. That's what pious conjurors, 208 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: in my mind to um, so that that slowly fell 209 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: out of favor, which is why reformers started coming together 210 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: to discuss the need for women to be able to 211 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: practice their political and civil rights. The Convention was a 212 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: two day affair where sessions were offered for discussions, forums, 213 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: and lectures of women and their role in society. It 214 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: was during this time that the Declaration of Sentiments, our 215 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Declaration of Rights and Sentiments was created and by one 216 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: hundred of the attendees at the Convention, which did include 217 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: thirty two men. The declaration was modeled after the Declaration 218 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: of Independence. And even though it was a big time 219 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: for women and women leadership UH, the call of suffrage, 220 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: suffrage was actually not something that all of the women 221 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: and other participants agreed on. It wasn't until Frederick Douglas 222 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: made an impassioned appeal UM that they added it to 223 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: the declaration right and during the movement, paradise and protests 224 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: and pickets were utilized to raise their voices and bring 225 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: attention to the need for equal representation UM, including the 226 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Suffrage Parade of nineteen thirteen and and the pickets in 227 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen and nineteen seventeen, which led to the rest 228 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: of two and eighteen women, and the rested women were 229 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: placed at workhouses located in Virginia, which eventually led to 230 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: public outrage over the treatment of the women in the 231 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: jails that led to the nineteenth Amendment. The suffragette movement 232 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: was a large coalition of different organizations during their time, 233 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: including the National Women's Sufrage Association, National Women's Party, and 234 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: the National American Women's Suffrage Association. And then there was 235 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: one specifically ran by Ida B. Wells called the Alpha 236 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Suffrage Club, which was one of the few African American 237 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: ran movements and coalitions and organizations at that time. Something 238 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: else we did want to talk about was leaving Black 239 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: women out of this whole thing when we look at 240 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: the suffraget movement. But first we're gonna pause for equip 241 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back, 242 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: thank you sponsor. So, yeah, we did want to talk 243 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: about how Black women we're sort of left out of 244 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of these things happening with the suffraget movement. 245 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Um they're being pulled in two different directions, two different movements. 246 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Women's suffrage and abolition. So in the late eighteen hundreds, 247 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Black women were very active politically and would often be 248 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: a part of the many political meetings and organizations that 249 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: were going on. Many of the African American women not 250 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: only attended many political gatherings, but they also worked at churches, newspapers, 251 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: and colleges which would give them platforms discussed and criticize 252 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: the need for the women's suffrage movement as well as 253 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: being abolitionists and civil rights advocates. But with that, African 254 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: American women were often excluded from planning and organizing are 255 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: just left out altogether. The in a w s A 256 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: even prevented African American women from attending their conventions. But 257 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: even with all that, there are several African American women 258 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: of note who pushed forward and became icons in the 259 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: movement and continued to fight for women and their right 260 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: to vote right. And we kind of already mentioned out 261 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: to be Wells And as we already discussed, there was 262 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: a big divide when it came to support for back 263 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: women and women of color when he came to well 264 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: everything including the suffragette movement, and though they were not supportive, 265 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: Black women still supported the movement marched with them, and 266 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: as we already talked about, activist Ida B. Wells worked 267 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: for the women's right to vote as well as being 268 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: an activist for anti lynching and abolition. She helped to 269 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: create the Alpha Suffrage Club, which gave boys for African 270 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: American women when the rest of the suffragette clubs and 271 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: organizations did not include nor allow them to participate. Another 272 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: civil rights leader and part of the suffragette movement was 273 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: Josephine st. Pierre Ruffin. She, along with Lucy Stone and 274 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: Julia ward How began the American Women's Suffrage Association, which 275 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: worked exclusively on the suffrage movement while other organizations worked 276 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: on that within broader gender issues. She also organized the 277 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: Women's Era Club, which was one of the very first 278 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: African American women's organizations. In eighteen ninety four, and she 279 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: and Charlotte Forten grim Key, who was a poet and 280 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: teacher in civil rights activists, formed the National Association of 281 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Colored Women. And we should also note that that their 282 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: motto was lifting as we climb and their goal was 283 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: to quote uplift Black women as they climb. And it's 284 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: something to talk about that that's kind of been an 285 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: underlying theme as this new wave of protests have been 286 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: happening recently about uplifting women and bringing each other up. 287 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: And I love I love that. Um Again, we want 288 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: to talk about another big name in the suffrage movement, 289 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: Nanny Helen Burrows. Much like the other two women discussed above, 290 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: she believed the success and survival for women, specifically African 291 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: American women was education and skills training. She was able 292 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: to establish a school for poor working African American women 293 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: after she was denied a teaching position in d C. 294 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: She created a school within monetary support from women and children, 295 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: which typically were not large amounts, but she was able 296 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: to collect enough to open the National Training School for 297 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: Women and Girls. And before she opened the school, Nanny 298 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: was part of a different organization, including the Women's Auxiliary, 299 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: which under her leadership, became heavily involved with the suffrage 300 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: movement and reform. As one article stated quote, she believed 301 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: suffrage from American women was crucial to protect their interests 302 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: in often discriminatory society, which I love. Yes, someone else 303 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: we wanted to mention was Mary McLeod Bethune And if 304 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: you don't know her name, you definitely should look her 305 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: up because she did something. She did a lot um. 306 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: She was a teacher, a leader, a businesswoman, and a 307 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: government official. After moving to Florida, where she taught as 308 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: well as sold insurance, she opened a boarding school in 309 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: um Datona Beach that was dedicated to teaching black girls 310 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: um literacy and industrial skills, which eventually became a college 311 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: that would later merge with an all male college and 312 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: be renamed the besune Own Cookman College. And she founded 313 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: many different organizations and led voter registration drives after women 314 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: were given the right to vote. She became president of 315 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: the National Association of the Colored Women's Club, and she 316 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: was founding president of a national Council for Black Women. 317 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: She eventually was appointed by President Franklin Roosevelt as a 318 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: Director for Black Affairs of the National Youth Administration. She 319 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: was the quote unofficial leader of FDR's Black Cabinet. She 320 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: fought to end lynching and discrimination and organize a conference 321 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: around the problems of black people and specifically black young 322 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: people in ninety seven. She was later appointed by President 323 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: Truman as the only woman of color at the founding 324 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: Conference of the United Nations. And we also wanted to 325 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: talk about Lucy Parsons, who was actually a self proclaimed anarchist, 326 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: And when I was researching her, it just seemed so 327 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: eerie because some of the things that she was saying 328 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: is so along the lines of what's happening today and 329 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: what's being said today, specifically to police brutality as well 330 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: as UM socialism and capitalism. So I've thought that this 331 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: was definitely someone we wanted to talk about, so for 332 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, Actually, the Chicago 333 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: Police Department stated that she and her husband, Albert Parsons 334 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: were quote more dangerous than a thousand rioters. UM. She 335 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: and her husband were activists involved in the labor movement, 336 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: and we're activists for political prisoners, people of color, and 337 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: the homeless in women. She continued to be active in 338 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: her writing and speaking for the labor movement and for 339 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: the Socialist Party even after her husband's death. She led 340 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: marches for working steamshis in Chicago was a part of 341 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: the Haymarket affair, which started as a peaceful event in 342 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: support of the eight hour work day UM but by 343 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: the way, this is also called the Haymarket Riots or 344 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Haymarket massacre, where her husband Albert Parsons, who it's good 345 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: to know was white and Um. She and her husband 346 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: left Texas due to the fact that interracial relationships and 347 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: Mary just were not condoned right UM where her husband 348 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: Albert Person spoke and would later be executed for conspiracy 349 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: for the rally, though many phil it was a frame 350 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: job and that the rally was actually peaceful. Um. She 351 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: later focused her activism to poverty and an unemployment and 352 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: would lead more protests and hunger strikes, including the Chicago 353 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: hunger demonstrations in January nineteen fifteen, which led to the 354 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: several organizations coming together for a large protest on February 355 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: twelve of that year. She was a part of different 356 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: organizations including the Industrial Workers of the World, the National 357 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: Committee of the International Layer Defense, and also joined the 358 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: Communist Party in nineteen thirty nine. And if you have 359 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: not actually seen or read any part of her speech 360 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: where she says I am an anarchist, you should. It 361 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: is a powerful, powerful speech and again it's aerially relatable 362 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: to today. Yes, yes it is, UM And we did 363 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about the modern civil rights movement as well. 364 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: But first we're going to take one more quick break 365 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor and we're back, Thank 366 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: you sponsor. And yeah, we wanted to look at some 367 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: of the women behind the modern civil rights movement, and 368 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: this is one of those that could and should and 369 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: probably in the future will be its own episode or 370 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: probably episodes. But yeah, we did want to look at 371 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: some of the powerful women involved in this movement. And 372 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: we're not going to talk too much about the people 373 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: who are well known, but wanted to focus on some 374 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: of the women that we don't typically hear as much about, 375 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: For example, Diane nash Um. So of course nash is 376 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: not unknown, but we did want to make sure that 377 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: we highlight how big her part in the protest within 378 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: the movement was. As a student leader for the movement 379 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: in Tennessee, she was one of the organizers for many 380 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: of the sit ins and protests in that area. She 381 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: became the chairman or chairwoman for the Student Non Violent 382 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: Coordinating Committee or s n c C, which was a 383 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: youth civil rights organization that worked with direct action campaigns. 384 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: As the leader, she was able to organize a bunch 385 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: of sit ins at lunch counters around the city, which 386 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: eventually led to being the first Southern city to desegregate 387 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: these businesses. She also, much like the African American activists 388 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: of the Suffragets movement, worked for the rights of African 389 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Americans to vote. She co initiated the Alabama Voting Rights 390 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: Project and worked with the Selma Voting Rights Movement. Yeah, 391 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: because of her active and her leadership, she would be 392 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: arrested on several occasions, including being threatened with two years 393 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: in jail for quote contributing to the delinquency of minors 394 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: for teaching non valid actions to college studies. Um, it 395 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: is something to note that she was released after ten days, 396 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: but it happened just because of the judge just let 397 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: them go, like, just let the charges go. And she believes, 398 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: actually she did stay that she believed it may have 399 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: something to do with the phone taps and the conversations 400 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: that was happening between her and other people, and because 401 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: of that they released her in fear of causing more rioting. 402 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: And oh and because also she was pregnant, so that 403 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: also has something to do with it as well. She 404 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: continued to work in activism as housing rights advocate and 405 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: worked with low income communities in the Chicago area, and 406 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: just a few years ago she actually helped raise funds 407 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: for the autopsy of Rex Delle Henry, who was a 408 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Native American man arrested and who was found dead under 409 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: suspicious circumstances while incarcerated. And yes, she is still alive, 410 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: and they have interviewed her about the Black Lives movement 411 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: and she says she's a full supporter, So it's really 412 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: cool to see what she has done and continues to 413 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: support today rights um And then we wanted to talk 414 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: about Johnny Carr, who was an activist and was childhood 415 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: friends with Rosa Parks and she was a big component 416 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: of the Montgomery Bus Boycats. She and her husband also 417 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: filed a lawsuit against the Montgomery County School Board to 418 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: integrate their school system with their son as the litigant 419 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: against the school in nineteen sixty four and won their case. 420 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: They won their case in nine sixty nine. Speaking of 421 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: Rosa Parks, so we did want to bring attention to 422 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: Claudet Colvin, who was actually rested nine months before Rosa 423 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: Parks for not moving to the back of the bus. 424 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: She was fifteen years old at the time and she 425 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: was one of four in the lawsuit Brouter versus Gayl 426 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: The court case that successfully overturned bus segregation laws and 427 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: Montgomery and Alabama at large. According to an interview she gave, 428 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: she stated she felt she was not as well known 429 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: and recognized because she didn't fit the narrative as well 430 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: as Rosa Parks. She said Mrs Parks had quote the 431 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: right hair and the right look, and that she quote 432 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: fit the profile. She also said that Mrs Parks was 433 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: an adult as where she was a teenager, and she 434 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: felt that the consensus was that an adult would be 435 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: more reliable, right. I think it was really interesting because 436 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: they were saying, why do you think you weren't as 437 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: well known or why was Rosa Parks the beginning of 438 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: the movement when in actuality you were the first to 439 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: say I'm not moving um, and that that was the 440 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: reasoning behind it. In the recent interview, and her history 441 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: is kind of sad actually when you look at all 442 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: the things that she had to go through, but she 443 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: was a big part of what happened. We also wanted 444 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: to talk about Dorothy Height and I don't doubt many 445 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: of you already know who she is, as she was 446 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: given the title of godmother of the civil rights movement, 447 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: but as a fellow social worker. I wanted to just 448 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: bring her up for people to remember how amazing she was, 449 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: because we should right right. She was a protege of 450 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Mary mccleud Bethune, who we talked about earlier in regards 451 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: to the Suffragette movement, and she was known for organizing 452 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: many events and protests during the modern civil rights movement, 453 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: including the nineteen sixty three March on Washington, But she 454 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: also worked to bring awareness to the victimization of women, 455 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: specifically women of color, black women in the domestic workfield. 456 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: To add to this, she is known as one of 457 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: the first to openly acknowledge the intersectional need to advocate 458 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: for racial and gender rights as well. Before they were 459 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: seen as two separate fights. Hype brought both to the 460 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: forefront and understanding for Black women they couldn't just fight 461 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: for one without the other. And to the point, during 462 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: the early sixties, she instituted a Wednesdays in Mississippi which 463 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: brought white women and black women together from all over 464 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: to talk and have an open dialogue. She became a 465 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: mediator to help communicate and to effectively teach uh just 466 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: She was a powerhouse to say the least, you know 467 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: I just realized. Yes I didn't just realize that, but yes, 468 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: I agree. But we never played Suffragetto. Oh yeah, we 469 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: need to, you know. I wonder if that's the game 470 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: we can play in uh in our virtual hang out? 471 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Can we do that virtually? I'll look into it. I'll 472 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: look into it. But yeah, I really want to play 473 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: stuff for Jetto. So something else that I wanted to 474 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: talk about is this idea I've been mulling over for 475 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: a while, which is protest cookbooks and just food as 476 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: a form of protest um. And so yeah, if if 477 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: you look at food, it is very political and press 478 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: communities and historically black communities have used food for protests 479 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: as protest um. After all, the resistance has to be fueled. 480 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: And we're seeing this now people handing out water in 481 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: granola bars at protest or here in Georgia there's that 482 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: pizza delivery to two people waiting hours online at the 483 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: polls to vote um from the time and slave people 484 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: were forcefully brought here and they fought to keep their 485 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: cuisines alive, to rating the food of white plantation owners, 486 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: to pass encoded messages at food gatherings at churches, to 487 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: farming and highly gentrified areas, two sit ins at restaurants. UM. 488 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: When it comes to the civil rights movement in America, 489 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: you had women like Georgia Gilmore, after losing her job 490 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: as a cafeteria worker in Montgomery, started using her home 491 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: to feed leaders of the movement, and she founded the 492 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: Club from Nowhere, which was a club that sold baked 493 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: goods at churches to raise funds for the protest. Here 494 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, we have a restaurant called Pascal's, which was 495 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: one of the few white tablecloth restaurants that allowed black 496 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: people to dine in at the time, and it became 497 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: a hub for planning protests. And if we look at 498 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: the Black Panther Party formed in nineteen six, the founders 499 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: included food as a part of their ten points program 500 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: quote we want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace. 501 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: They also implemented the free breakfast program to feed students 502 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: in their communities, particularly black student UM and then the 503 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: government conducted raids on these two an attempt to stop 504 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: the program, but eventually went on to adopt the program. UM. 505 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: Having within our schools those kind of things. So yeah, 506 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: I just I feel like I've been thinking about this 507 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: a lot for the other podcast, I do savor and 508 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: just how food has been used in this way, and 509 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times it gets left out 510 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: or it isn't thought about. But yeah, yeah, and as 511 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: we see today is still uh a conversation whether we're 512 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: talking about EBT and food stamps or we're talking about 513 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: the free lunch program and lunch debt, lunch school debt, 514 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: which has been a big part of the political conversation 515 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: with our current administration, as if that is a privilege 516 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: instead of the fact that we're actually trying to provide 517 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: for these children. And why are we holding these over 518 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: their heads like they're adults who are trying to cheat 519 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: the system. It's so absurd. But yeah, you're absolutely right. 520 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: This is a big point of contention, and it is 521 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: a big part of why many of the protests have happened, 522 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: whether it is because of homelessness or or the lack 523 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: of food. Right, and and um, if you want, if 524 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: if this is something you're curious in, you can search 525 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: protest cookbooks and you'll get a wide range of things. 526 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: But some of them are you know, here's how to 527 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: cook for a protest, and some are just reclaiming foods 528 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: than histories that have been appropriated. So it's something I 529 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: personally find really fascinating. So it's covered a lot of Groundsmantha, 530 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Um we have, but I know it is both somehow 531 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: a lot of just very surface area. But we do 532 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: have a lot more we want to talk about. However, 533 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: this is the end of part one, so now we 534 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: have a cliffhanger. What other protests and organizations are we 535 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: going to talk about? It's a mystery. You'll have to 536 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: listen to find out, UM, So stay tuned for part two. 537 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: In the meantime, if there's anything we talked about that 538 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: you want us to discuss more in depth, please let 539 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: us know. 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