WEBVTT - Cody Reads Ben Shapiro's Short Stories 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.520 Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart Radio, 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:21.560 Well Together Everything. So don't don't geez, Cody, I don't know. 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.720 I I disagree. I mean I don't. I don't think 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.880 our listeners are are foolish dukes. Um, that's that's really 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.760 that's really harsh. Well, I mean, I can't believe that 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.199 came out of your mouth. The marketplace of ideas and 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.639 I'm just like giving you know, options for the market, right. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.839 I think maybe they maybe they are, maybe they're not, 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.199 but I think it's worthy worthy of debate. Well, this 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.400 is really going to hurt our chances to go public, 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.760 which we were planning to be the first podcast to 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.440 be publicly traded. Thanks Cody, we still can we don't. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.600 Just don't have to air this part. Well, that would 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.880 have to start the whole show over again. Hey, speaking 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.560 of dishonest, you know who's not the most honest man 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:13.480 who has ever existed? It has been Shapiro. Do you 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.360 have anything vaguely related to Ben Shapiro to share with 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.960 us today? My? Oh, let me check, let me check 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:25.640 my my websites. Oh oh wow, here's oh wow. Here 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:30.800 is Ben Shapiro's first published book, A book of short stories. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:38.520 Now I cannot believe you did this instance. But do 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.600 you mean to tell us all that Ben Shapiro, the 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.840 author of True Allegiance, Yeah, has a previous fiction publication. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:55.880 Oh his premier before you, the incredible H much loud, foundational. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:03.240 Let's yeah, Jackson, and give some context because this is 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.960 a different show. UM, and I think there's probably are 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.320 some of some of our listeners perhaps don't know what 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.960 we're talking about. We did a different show for a 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.560 year straight on a different on We for a year 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.239 straight on Robert's other show, Behind the Bastards. Uh. Cody 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.800 and I would intermittently come on and he would just 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:35.520 read aloud to us sections of Ben Shapiro's awful novel. UM. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.440 I don't think we need to debate that. UM. I 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.359 think that people can go back and peruse that library 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.560 if they want to catch up over the fun holidays. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.840 But for now, what we are going to be presenting 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:52.760 to you over a number of episodes are Ben Shapiro's 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.760 short stories. Uh. This is uh, this I believe was 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:02.560 self published. Baby use an e book. I self published 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.000 a book to you know? I no, no, no, nothing 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.639 that Um it is no longer available. Uh, where e 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:14.240 books are available. I believe that virus. I started looking 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.600 just like seeing and I there were all these links. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.400 I was like, not clicking that, not clicking that. Hour 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.960 later Cody is like, oh my god, I caught it. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:28.000 There are Yeah, there are many many bad links out there, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.160 ones like a Google doc that you can go to 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:36.320 like somebody. Yeah, um but I found that's extremely funny. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:41.200 Safely it is virus free and um so you think 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.200 until you start reading still you crack that motherfucker open, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.080 and that's when the virus part of virus. Yeah, there's 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.800 there's already some guy in Macedonia like going over cody 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.440 social Security number, transferring cash out of his bank accounts. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:05.040 It will be worth it. Um. Yeah, so it's here. Uh, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.480 we're very happy he clearly, I think just because it's 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.720 self published. I don't think there's an editor. I think 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.240 he just didn't want people to read it. Is there 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.000 like a description of any sort of the book that 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.599 it doesn't have that on the version I have, But 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.599 that's extra writing. You're not gonna give that up for free. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.520 But I think there is a yeah here, I'm gonna 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.640 go to good Reads, where again it is not available. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.279 But because this is hard to find. Yeah. Um, But 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.640 in What's Benja Pier releases his first book of short stories, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.400 Explanation Point and What's Fair. An incredible invention leads to 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.440 bloody brutality when an unsatisfied brother to size he hasn't 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.400 received what he is owed. Wow, really wearing your beliefs 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.040 on your sleeve there, ben And from the pit an 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.960 adventure shrinks to microscopic size to clean up the environment. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.640 But this is going to go himself targeted for murder 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.279 when he accidentally ingested the body of a mysterious employer. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.360 Sorry Katie Wood. So like a HONEYI shrunk that kids 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.799 kind of vibe, but like kind of mixed with that 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.080 what's the what's the movie where they go inside the 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.600 fantastic voyage or something. It's like that mixed with that, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.960 mixed with like environmentalism. And I'm going to guess for 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.440 all of these here's my my prediction. Weird and not 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:31.280 at all relevant Biblical like like bizarre and uncomfortable biblical 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:36.640 comparisons like I'm gonna guest have to be like really yeah, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.239 really allegories like oh, I see what you're trying to say, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.560 because you're telling me, um yeah, really like on the 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:49.560 nose surface level allegories. For example, in Utopia, a man 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:54.039 of Bandon's paradise when he realizes that periods up to 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:59.000 be is it utopia or like utopia? It's just utopia utopia? 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.120 But is this the threat to that paradise? Oh my gosh, 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:07.200 I bet, I bet the Utopia is like lefty but 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.480 not secretly it's yeah, it's not going to be so 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:14.200 nice and that lefty heaven. From science fiction to parable, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.080 from love to violence, Shapira's exciting stories capture the imagination. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.560 I bet, thank you. And then there's a list of 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.760 you know, his other books um uh, and you know 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.440 labeled brilliant by Russia, Limbaugh, a Warrior by Globeck, and 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.520 a foe of extraordinary polemic agility by the Washington past God, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:40.599 the Washington Who at the Washington Who Cody? Whom the post? 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.320 What is that quote? I'm looking that up right now. 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.760 Who writes the good Reads page? What is the A 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:55.640 foe of extraordinary polemic agility? A foe of extraordinary polemic agility? 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.440 As when you just do a search for that, all 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.719 of them are the book What's fair? See here's the 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:09.080 thing and I here's what I think somebody here because 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.520 and I believe true allegiance. Yes. Uh, the one of 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.800 the blurbs says, meet our new Iron Rand, and that's 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.800 the quote that is used in the book. But if 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.240 you google that you find that it's part of a headline, 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.840 and the full headline is meet our New Iron Rand, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:31.520 Ben Shapiro's ham fisted propacanda fiction. Even worn it's so funny, 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.600 cod it's so funny and it's it's look, I would 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.680 not be surprised if it was like the actual quote 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.280 was like Ben Shapiro likes to see himself as exactly 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.520 because I I have just gone through within a like 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.920 the different permutations, just basically doing different like quote searches 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.040 for for that phrase and adding Ben Shapiro the post 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.800 You think, just words from that phrase, nothing comes up 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.360 at all. But but like really sketchy book links about 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.080 the book, What's fair, no Washington Post Water. I have 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.800 no idea who who said this about him or if 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.440 he said it over at dinner once. Yeah, but I 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.120 need to back up because the way read it over 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.200 time a foe of agility and so like it's written 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:20.800 like enemy of that or is it a bad guy 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.200 that has all of that, you know what I mean, Like, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:28.360 either way, what is that doing on your book? But 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.560 it no, it frames him like he is the enemy 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:36.120 of extraordinary And this is this is why Ben Shapiro 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.160 is such a consistent, beautiful thing for us to cover, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.360 because we haven't even gotten into the book and we 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.880 are we already have so much to discuss, to discuss 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.720 please continue. So is that and then you know whatch 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.600 appears widely considered one of the most prominent young conservatives America. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.120 Can't argue with that. Uh, this volume contains his first 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.760 foray into the fiction world and not his last. I 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.840 had that last little bit. No, they didn't know at 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.200 the time. They didn't know what he didn't know at 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.120 the time. He definitely wrote himself. Well yeah, yeah, I 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:13.400 actually I think one thing we can say about Ben 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:18.880 Shapiro is it is unlikely that he plagiarized anyone else's writing. Yeah, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:24.079 I think I think that's very obvious by reading the sentences. Um, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.359 author of six non fiction books, including New York Time, Pestler, Bullies, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.640 Editor of Daily Wire, Editor at large a Breitbart News 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:36.240 that's no longer true. Uh uh, probably not. You could 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.000 have an entire show that is just reading. I feel 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.280 like his nonfiction is going to be like way harder 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:48.199 and more frustrating. Yeah, it's like his opinions, but like 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.079 him just saying them as opposed to like him trying 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.120 to like be a little little clever writer. Guy Um. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.120 I mean, I I will say, because we here at 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.000 uh behind the Bastards, Sophia and I are going over 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.480 his book that he wrote about sex um and it 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:09.680 is a porn book. It's the porn Generation, the book 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.079 in which he cites as an example of how teenagers 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.480 are acting in two thousand four, a book by Norman 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:23.000 Mailier about a fictional uh electric electric cool Tom wolf 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.560 a book by Tom Wolfe about a fictional college student 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.200 as evidence of like how actual college students behave because 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.720 if anyone in two thousand four understood millennials, it was 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:38.319 Tom wolf like a work of anyway. So that's the 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.280 description of the book. The actual book itself is called 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.200 What's Fair Colon and Other short Stories. I will say 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.200 that there are only three short stories, and they're each 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.640 about twenty pages, and each page is kind of like 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.520 that goose Bumps font you know, where it's like you 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.560 fit like two and a half paragraphs on a page. Um, 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.480 so you know that's fine. The short stories, it's fine. Um, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:03.839 no judgment there. Um. I will uh challenge everybody as 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.120 we go to a quick ad break and come back 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.040 to read the first short story called What's Fair? Uh 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:14.760 guess the first sentence of a short story by Ben 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:19.600 Shapiro called What's Fair in a collection called What's Fair 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.760 and Other Short Stories. Oh boy, I bet it's gonna 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:27.600 be happy. Families are all alike. Oh, I bet it's 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:33.800 what's fair? Question Mark, you're Katie's closer in the right direction. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:42.559 All right, we'll be back to find out the answer together. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:55.440 Everything break today. Alright, Cody, we're finally doing it. We're 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.360 gonna cut that album. I think I think that's the sign. Robert, 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.280 Robert and Cody sing a totally while looking at their 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.960 laptops during a zoom call the album mumble lyrics to 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:11.440 a song that doesn't exist, but that doesn't exist. Keep 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:20.880 it all in, We're back. Snack from space. Hey, everybody, 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:29.000 welcome back. Wow. Narrative polemics of Ben Shapiro. Yeah, and 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.439 I before we get into his book, I do think 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.000 it's worth acknowledging the courage of releasing your first ever 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:39.040 fictional debut and choosing three short stories to be the 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:43.439 whole thing. Yeah, He's like, yeah, I think that's it. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.680 Most people. Look, I've written some fiction, and there's a 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.880 lot of fiction that I wrote and nobody ever saw 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.319 that came out that I put together before the first 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.560 thing that I published. And I'll just say I respect 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:00.480 the hutzpah. Ben Shapiro shows by never once doubting that 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:06.640 these three short stories zero needed to be published, utter 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.960 confidence in himself that I don't need to work on this. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.960 That's the thing about his his book, like every page 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.199 seems like nobody edited it, like it was a first 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:22.280 draft that he said, good, it's done. Because I feel 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.680 like with True Allegiance, uh it does read like it 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.199 wasn't edited, but I think it was, and I'm pretty 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.640 sure this absolutely was not. Uh So, I'm curious the 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.960 divide there. I'm curious what that first line is. Well, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.360 do you have any other guesses you want to shout 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.400 in your phone? Uh So the first sentence, So, what's fair? 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:49.240 I've always thought of myself as a fair man, and 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.480 I just think that's so fucking funny, you're just saying 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:57.400 it's all laid out. Um, no no time to no wavering. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.080 All right. So I've always thought of myself as a 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.200 fair man. That's all I ever wanted. What was fair 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.840 when the plow was done and when it was time 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.240 for supper. All I wanted was the same as what 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:13.160 everybody else got. God, the same as okay, fair, I 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:18.520 always say, God, damn you okay. As what everybody else 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.200 got was that it was a couple of sentences. It 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.240 was a couple he's got. He's got some periods in here. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:29.280 He uses words the way drunk people use cars, and 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.400 it's just very sad to see words going through. Wait 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:38.280 till you here the next sentence. Oh, good, new paragraph. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.440 I remember a time when I was a kid that 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:46.200 Dad gave me and Jim Christmas presents. What I remember 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.480 a time when I was a kid that Dad gave 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.280 me and Jim Christmas presents. So no one edited this. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:56.440 You're right. He gave Jim a risk watch and he 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:01.880 gave me a hunting knife. Uh, we'll find out, I hope. 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.240 Why don't you introduce your relationship with this guy to start? No, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.640 Ben understands that the key to good fiction is keeping mystery. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.880 You want to keep the audience guessing who is this 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:18.880 person they're getting Christmas? This is? This is uh, you know, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.080 I'm going to come to Ben's defense here in this 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:26.360 marketplace terrible ideas, because uh, I feel like in true allegiance, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.480 it would be like I remember a time when I 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.400 was a kid that dad gave me and Jim my 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:35.360 brother Christmas presents. Whereas yea christ presents, I assume it's 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.360 his brother, because who else his dad given Christmas presents to? Um? 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:43.040 He actually assume it's Jim Jones. It's very well fingers 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:48.000 trust we'll see, it's not very long. How do we know? 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.120 All right? But he did give jimmy griss watch, and 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.360 he gave me a hunting knife. Boy, it was Jim 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.040 taken with that wristwatch. He'd wear it around every day, 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.560 rain or shine, always careful to keep it clean, to 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.320 keep it sound. If he scuffed it up, he'd buff 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:09.400 that scuff right out. Incredibly engaging writing bit. He'd spent 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.560 hours with a handkerchief, spitting on it and rubbing it, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:18.520 spitting on it and wiping it until spitting on it. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:27.200 Because audio we've been sharing spitting on it, And that's 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:34.200 what your brother was doing, wiping it sting. I didn't 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.240 really like my hunting knife. I wasn't big like Jim. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:46.520 Then it wasn't very context very people's sizes, and here 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.880 always has to be pretty big. Well, here comes the moment. Yeah, 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.200 I I just love We've we've found the origin of 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.920 beIN Shapiro writing in a in a very sad way 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:05.480 about someone brother. Does he have one? I don't Jim? 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.399 Does he have a Does he jerk off his watch 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:14.680 all the time? His middle name is Aaron. Now he's 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:21.080 a sister Apple Gail. Maybe um, maybe he's Jim. And 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.840 this story anyway continue. Well, he wasn't big like I 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.760 wasn't big like Jim. Then it wasn't until later that 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.200 I hit my growth spurt. Every they always he can't 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.119 even he was praying for that growth spurt. Great, his 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.600 prayers were not answered. But you know, that's very funny. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.480 That's that's incredibly funny. Okay, it's right there. But Dad 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.000 kept after me to try it out, and I wanted 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.480 so bad to please him, so I headed out to 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.080 the woods to see if I could catch something. Sure enough, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.200 I found me a rabbit. When I pounced for him, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.600 though he was faster than I was. Yeah, he's a rabbit, 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.919 and he skittered away like his tail was on fire. Okay, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.560 really good rust stuff. But I wanted to show Dad 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.320 that I knew what to do with a knife, so 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.359 I chased him and chased him. He chased your dad, Yeah, 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.400 this is this is where they're like the poor. Like 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.280 an editor would help. Yeah, yeah, said, it's a new paragraph. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.080 We haven't mentioned the rabbit in this paragraph. I wanted 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.480 to show Dad chase him and chase him. This isn't 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.879 the only spot. This isn't where it starts. I couldn't. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.280 I would have used an editor from word one. I 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:27.880 remember a time when I was a kid that Dad 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.359 gave me and Jim Christmas presence. Kind of an awkward phrasing, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:35.440 um right off the bat, But I chased him, chased him, 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.080 and I finally cornered that old rabbit in a rocky 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.520 little dead end. He'd moved to his left, and I'd 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.480 moved to my right to cut him off. He'd moved 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.719 to his right, and I jump with him, but he 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.399 was too smart for me. He charged straight at me, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.000 and before I knew it, he'd gone right between my legs, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:55.080 like that ball Buckner missed in the series. I love 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.520 because he's very clearly trying to be like folksy and 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:01.880 like found me around classical, grew up in the country. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.879 Number one, he doesn't get the way people talk right 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.439 at all. But number two, Uh, it's very clear that 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.000 all of his knowledge about how to like chase and 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.640 hunt down a rabbit comes from Looney Tunes cartoons. It's 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.280 literally like a Looney Tunes he's describing there, or like 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:21.680 playing basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it doesn't bear. Also, 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.680 it would be not like rabbits are very easy to skin. 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.440 That's one of the nice things about rabbits. A gigantic 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.080 hunting knife would be like a weird tool in any 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.360 instance to use on a rabbit. But okay, whatever, its 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.440 good to have around at random, I mean all times, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.160 but random times you just have specific wealth of knowledge. 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.520 You mean this short story like, well, do you like 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:50.560 you would never use that tool? Yeah, I mean like 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.040 when even like butchering like a sheep or something, you're 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.919 not using like a giant hunting knife like he's describing, 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.680 like there's like specialized like you could but like smaller anyway, whatever, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:06.240 you want to impress his dad, you know, yea psychopathic maybe, yeah, 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:07.639 I mean if you If I was going to make 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.960 it more realistic, I would have like, you know, him 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.080 going out hunting with his dad, and his dad's you know, 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.560 given him a hunting knife or bought him a twenty 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.080 two or like something that actually makes a little bit 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.359 more sense than him just like wandering out alone with 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.399 a knife to like, yeah, catches catch the rab the rabbit, 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.080 and then his dad's like skin the rabbit and he's 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.800 like too squeamish to do it, or yeah, sure, yeah 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.639 like it. I like, okay, my my my ex wife's 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.600 little brother grew up in the middle of nowhere, Texas 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:34.399 and would hunt rabbits and stuff. But it was always 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.480 like trapping them because like tex just better. And so 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.840 maybe he like traps a rabbit, but he's too squeamish 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.520 to actually like kill it or knife. There's a number 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.880 of ways that that a writer this work, right. The 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.000 the issue he's running into now is like a the 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.400 rabbit like ran through my legs, Like you didn't get 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.680 a chance to use the n nonsense. Yeah, okay, please continue, Cody, 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.480 this is very full. I turned around and there was 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.400 that rabbit sitting there staring at me like he was laughing. 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.760 And I got so mad that I took that hunting 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.320 knife and I threw it at him like James Coburn 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.680 in The Magnificent Seven, just about took his head off. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.359 But that rabbit moved like lightning. He was gone, and 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:17.640 I heard him. That's not just about taking its head off, right, 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.159 It got away, didn't just about to take his head. 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.000 I just got to point that out. Yeah, if it 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.199 touched the rabbit, maybe maybe I feel like, you know, 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.639 nicked him a little bit. I didn't, but he didn't 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.320 that he was gone. And I heard a plunk from 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.800 a creek that ran through the woods. Wait, okay, I 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:36.679 heard of plunk from a creek that ran through the woods. 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:40.720 The knife was gone, too, Well, you could find a knife, um, 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.000 like you threw the knife, you know, all right? Whatever. 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:48.359 When I got for the knife, yeah, the rabbit didn't 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.160 didn't like scarpor off again, continuing to sound like Looney Tunes. 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:54.520 When I got back home that night, I was too 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.639 embarrassed to tell Dad what happened to that knife. But 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.919 the next morning, when Jim got up, he found that 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:03.680 his watch was dented. He couldn't buff that out? All right, okay, 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.280 great new section of the book skips a line. This 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.960 is so bad. Wait a minute, just that thing like, 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.600 but when I woke up, Jim's watch was dented. Couldn't 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:20.080 buff that out? What? Yeah, that's not okay, that's certain 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.960 that happened alight, I'm not to know what happens next. Well, 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.760 what happened next is I met em Dash, Emily, that 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.840 is Dash. When I was a senior in high school. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.679 She was about the cutest thing you've ever seen, No, 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.520 strawberry blonde with a knockout body and a button nose, 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:44.399 blue eyes too, like a miniature of Britney Spears on 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:55.320 the team. Okay, back up, she smiled at me breastily. 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:58.520 Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.840 made that lineup. I made that up. That's not like you. 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:09.560 You might not have is the thing? Um that's intentionally 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:13.600 in there? Sure? But then so after he meets this 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.159 cutest thing you've ever seen, strawberry blonde hair with a 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.320 knockout body and a button nose, blue eyes too, like, 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.280 manage your Britney Spears. She was on the cheerleading team. 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:27.560 By then, I'd hit that growth spurt I mentioned, and 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.920 I was a big burly kid the full back onto 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:35.680 he actually say that growth spurt, he did say, And 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:39.080 by that I had hit that growth spurt I mentioned 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.200 where I had edited, I would say, hey, Ben, there's 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.520 no reason to mention in the growth spurt earlier. Just 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.879 say then I hit a growth spurt, and save yourself 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:51.880 some words, and don't introduce a fact until it's actually meaningful. Yeah, 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.760 that's a good note. If anything, don't say that you 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.840 mentioned it, because we know it was two paragraphs that 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.720 she's mentioned two times. Here's what I'm going to say 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.000 is it's been mentioned two times in this very short 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.320 story already because that's so important to him. It's so 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.200 important to him, and it's the thing he never got. Yeah, 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.280 and like absolutely no shade at people at any heights. 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.760 We love you. It's him because he's so preoccupied with 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.919 people's heights. And you know what I mean. Anyway, If 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.440 you don't know what I mean, go back and listen 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.680 to all of us talking about single chapter. Every time 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.439 we've ever talked about the really short terrorists and they 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:40.320 really tall. Everybody else, Ah, the bad Guy's classic. That's 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.560 big burly kid fullback on the team. I was barreling 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:48.040 kids over, I mean steamrolling them, and coach said I 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.680 was a sure thing for All State. The minute I 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.080 laid eyes on M, I knew she was the girl 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.440 for me. I knew she liked me too. You see, 0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:02.200 she wasn't. It's so awkward. Sorry, she wasn't the first 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.280 girl I'd ever gone out with. When you're the star 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.560 fullback on your high school football team in a small 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.280 town like Jefferson, there are plenty of girls after you, 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.960 Comma looking for something to tell their daughters about twenty 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:16.840 years from now. Yeah, but M with something special. When 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.840 I was on the field, she'd cheer and she'd look 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.520 at me, and I felt like I was playing just 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:24.679 for her. That's nice. One night after the game, ME 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.080 and M got to talking. Don't ask me what we 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.280 talked about. I wouldn't know. Probably a game, or her 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:36.000 classes or something else. Love story for the ages, said, 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.320 I don't give a fuck. By the time we looked around, 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.240 the sun had gone down. It was late. She looked 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.760 up at me with those big eyes through her eyelashes. 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:52.600 Good god, Good god, Ben, have you ever cared about 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.880 a person? Honestly, I could see, she'd combed them special 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.800 for me. Yeah that's what you noticed. Yeah, I noticed 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:03.400 that she did her She's looking through them with her 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:08.080 big eyes, her big blue eyes, thankfully, and she asked 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.920 me to walk her home. Of course, being no fool, 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.359 I said sure. She lived in a nice area of 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.440 town and I lived near the fields, so we had 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.760 to walk past my house to get to hers. As 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.840 we walked by, I pointed at our house. We have 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.639 to admit I had some guilty thoughts about m and 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:27.320 I knew that Dad and Mom weren't home. My guess 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.480 was right, Oh, this is weird. There's like a double 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.680 indentation for this paragraph. Yeah, because he again he's never 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.639 read anything that he's written. Yeah, this is this that 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.200 this is a really new paragraph. It's like he hit 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:43.280 tab like three times one paragraph. All right, my guess 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.920 was right. She wasn't shy either. She batted those eyelashes 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.080 and told me she'd love to see the house. Could 0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.159 I show her around? She didn't have to ask me twice. 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.640 That's a new paragraph. And then here's another new paragraph. 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.359 We walked up to the door and I took her 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.680 in my arms, and that's when Jim opened to the door. 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:05.560 He was back from State where he was studying agricultural engineering, 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.520 and he looked at me, laughing with his eyes and said, hey, brother, 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:13.840 I'm home. When I finally we confirmation Jim's brother. When 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.760 I turned back to introduce M, she was looking at him. 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:21.200 They were married six months later. This is so bad. 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.879 It's bad news for this guy talking right. Oh you 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.560 mean the writing also? Yes, yeah, the writing is quite bad. 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:34.800 He spends so much time on dumb details and zero 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:41.480 time on where the story is. Like it understands that 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:45.720 the least important thing about the story is that there's 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.920 a story. Right. Yeah, well I think he's gonna You know, 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.200 Jim just gets everything he wants right. And it's not fair. 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.760 I've read the first sentence of this U this short story. 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:01.560 All is fairer to be close enough. I always thought 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.520 of myself as a fair man. But a new section. 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.359 We've the passage of time. Uh. This is after they've 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:13.560 been married six months later. Uh. The next summer, Dad 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.080 died in an accident. Mom was walking around like a ghost, 0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.520 and the farm was going to ruin. Jim and M, 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.400 who were off living near state, came home to help 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.040 take care of Mom and the farm. Dad had left 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.960 him in charge since he was the first born. Jim 0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.440 and M moved into the house with us. The farm 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.560 was still workable well, Jim was m moved into the 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.840 house with you. Jim lived there. I think, I mean, hey, brother, 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:42.240 I'm home moments doesn't know whatever. Jim and Man moved 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.480 in the house with us. The farm was still workable, 0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.000 and Jim figured that he could save up enough money 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.040 to buy some machinery. Jim took over the master bedroom 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.320 with M and Mom moved into Jim's old room. I 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.640 stayed where I had always been. It was pretty terrible 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.160 to be around the house, what with mom haunting is so? 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:07.440 Oh say it differently, man, So I spent most haunting 0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:13.640 it like that bit like haunting them for stupid dead 0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:15.920 Uh So. I spent most of my extra time in 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.120 the weight room at school, classic bulking up for next year. 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.440 I didn't like to be near Mom. It made me 0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.200 feel depressed inside. I was a high school graduate and 0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.680 I was getting invited to all the best parties. Anyway, 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.680 One night, Jim and M asked if I could take 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.400 care of Mom for a while so they could go 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.880 out and grab dinner. I said sure, I was downstairs 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.479 watching TV when I saw the water dripping through the ceiling. 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.600 It turns out the mom was in the bathtub, her 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.480 head under the water, not breathing. I had learned some 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.520 basic mouth to mouth and I was able to get 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.680 her breathing again. But she was never the same after that. Now, 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.760 Jim and m and I had to help her get 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.240 to the bathroom, shower herself, feed herself. What the fuck? 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.880 I'm sorry, Wait a minute. He is just going through 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.760 so much. It's a lot going on. Yeah, this is 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:03.960 a I mean, it's actually Ben's pitching his full length 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:09.040 family drama. It's actually just like the treatment for it. 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:14.600 He's doing this thing that like upper like money, having 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.640 a coastal elite, Conservatives do to pretend that they're not 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.520 coastal elites because Ben is, as far as I know, 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:27.040 a California boy. Um, and it's they're doing this thing 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.440 where they imagine and I don't think Ben has ever 0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.240 spent a particular amount of time near working class or 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.240 even poor. He grew up in Burbank. Yeah, he grew 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.480 up in Burbank. And he's doing this thing that conservatives 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.040 in his position do, where in order to try to 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:45.000 separate themselves from the liberal coastal elites that they demonize. 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:49.920 They imagine, they imagine they actually know anything about what 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.440 rural life is like. And in Ben's case, he's imagining 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:57.840 this like constant train of horrific disasters and tragedies and 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:02.680 folksy nonsense, and it's it's just like, yeah, because you 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.600 don't know, you don't actually know what the actual like 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.800 struggles in in rural America are. Like if you did, 0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:12.000 I think he would be spending less time on trying 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.200 to take Karama and more time talking about like like 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:16.840 even if you're going to focus on like your mom's 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.760 health issues, the lack of like actual medical care of 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.240 hospitals and whatnot in rural areas, the difficulty in actually 0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.560 like getting someone to treatment when you're out in the sticks, 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:29.120 um how to like like it kind of glosses over, 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.440 like how they actually got her treatment. Okay, Like you 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.640 pull her out of the bathtub, Now where do you 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.200 take her? You're an hour and a half away from 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.400 the hospital, Like do you have gas? Do you maybe 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.560 only have one car and your brothers away in the car, 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.640 and so you can't do anything for a while, Like 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.960 every year, if he knew anything about what it was 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:51.440 actually like dealing with problems for people. But he's imagining, Yeah, 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.280 now suddenly, okay, we've taken care of Ma, and yeah 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.760 that's the thing. Um, it's not good. It's it's like 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.720 Jade Vance, right, yeah, it's that stuff. It's like, oh yeah, look, 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.400 I can imagine the hardships. Um, but now they have 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.040 to they know, now they have to, you know, get 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.800 into the bathroom, shower herself, help, help help, he feed yourself. 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:15.240 I imagine something. I imagine it's time for an act 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.840 for a time for a nat break. Oh well, we'll 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.080 find out soon. What happens at State State is always 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:26.479 capitalized and it's unclear where. Um it's like the state college. Right. 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:27.680 It's like it's like he's trying to keep it as 0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:35.800 vegue as possible, because like Lincoln, Americana Midwest. Yeah yeah, 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:46.640 but you know, we'll be right back. We will together everything, 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:53.400 so don't don't. And then we came back, and it 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.920 was this moment back we did. We didn't come back. 0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.600 We we buffed our watch, we shined it, we like 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.600 rubbed it more, we spat on what I did little more, 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.280 and then we came back. I walked on out to 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.280 that forest, and I easily found the knife I chucked. 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.160 Just took a minute of me like you just left 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:15.200 it there? Because yeah, like I remembered that I threw 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.200 it and it didn't hit the rabbit, but like the 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.760 general area where I threw it, and I was able 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.960 to find it and come home with it, and now 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:26.800 I still have it. Oh good good? After that sounds easy? Uh, 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.000 Like you would only need like a short ad bricks 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.240 worth of time to go find that knife that you threw. Honestly, 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:39.840 any who uh that fall starting for State? I blew 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.280 out my knee there with the scholarship offer to State? 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.080 How did you out your knee? Say? Yeah, how did 0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.840 you like? What was the move? You know? Haven't again? 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.400 A thing a writer would do is describe, you know, 0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.680 the excitement of this big game, how much it meant 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:56.800 to you. You've got like this girl who's like super 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.240 into you, and they're about to be you know, your 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.040 whole future is writing on this pivotal moment, and then 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.760 you describe the actual scene. You know, you're running the 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.160 ball sailing overhead, and as you leap up to catch it, 0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.080 somebody like comes in and tackles you and get you 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:12.880 like right in the side, and you land as he 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.560 pulls you down. You land on your right leg and 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.759 it fucking pops your knee out and it tears, and 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:24.120 you you know, and the story you cry in the 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.600 game and point out it's not because it hurt. It's 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.520 because I knew that I wouldn't be able to play anymore, 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.719 Whereas the way this is written, it's like, yeah, and 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.880 then I blew up my knee and then the scholarship 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.160 was gone, and I balled like a baby. But like, 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.799 it's not connected to the game or the event. It's 0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:46.640 connected to like losing the scholarship, but that he wouldn't 0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:52.040 be able to use a font that's true. This is 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.279 you are correct. This big, this incredibly important event in 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.960 this person's life is two sentences long. You are here. 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.319 Here's the central issue that Ben keeps having. He is 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.520 he thinks that he is making an emotionally affecting story 0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.760 by having sad and difficult things happen to a family 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.120 of characters. But all he is doing is listing sad things, 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.120 rather than making us inhabit a moment in which something 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.120 difficult and sad happens. And it's because he understands the 0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.360 broad strokes, Oh, yeah, your mom can get sick and 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.719 you don't have much money. You could you can hurt 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:26.919 yourself while playing in a game and not be able 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.800 to to go pro. But he doesn't understand enough about 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.280 what it actually means to be poor with a suffering, 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.400 sick family rout in the middle of nowhere, or what 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:39.400 what sports are to write scenes in which things happens 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:44.879 happen emotional. This is the epitome of facts don't care 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:50.839 about your feelings. Feelings, and this happened, this happened, and 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.239 like there's no attempt at like an empathetic approach to 0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.600 it to like you're saying, like, yeah, get into this story, 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.959 get into the characters and like live these moments. Yeah, 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.479 well then this happened, and that's what that's that's bad. 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.040 So when facts don't care about your feelings, you're it's 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:12.640 you can't like, it's not human, it's not Yeah, like 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.880 maybe maybe have this guy going through the ship with 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.799 his mom and like like set up how difficult his 0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.640 life is as he's you know, seventeen eighteen about to 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.240 go into college and then like his coach sees him 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.000 stressed out and he's like, hey, man, don't worry like 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.520 their scouts out there, You're so good. This is gonna 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.480 set you up for life, like you're you're you know, 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.120 you're going to move through this. All your hard work 0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.040 is going to pay off. And then we have the 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:37.160 scene where he actually injures himself, and then maybe there's 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.720 like at least some kind of emotional connection. Maybe maybe 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.560 maybe you established the suffering and make him hope for 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.080 this moment before it falls apart, right, and like even 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:52.360 like describe like him playing football when he's not big 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.960 and burly and like he just really wants to, like 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.719 he loves he loves the game, you know, and then 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.120 it finally gets to play it and describe that feeling. 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.280 The title of this series should be editing Ben Shapiro's 0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.920 book for him. Oh my god, it's a task, but 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.239 somebody needed to do it. Also, actually, now that I 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:16.040 look at it, the very first paragraph is also intended weird. Yeah, 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.200 and the second one. I just mean, you guys are 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.719 pitching great notes, great feedback. It's just like you might 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:26.520 make this a story. Feedback to Ben would be write 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.560 a story. Yeah, Like if you're like, if you want 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.239 to write a short story. I would recommend that you 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:36.120 write a short story, um as a list of sad 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.399 things that has a list of sad things with a 0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.960 lesson that he wants people to gain from. I'm sure 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.320 we're building to it. We're getting there. I mean, I know, 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:48.239 I know from the title in the first fair Yeah, 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:53.120 fairness is bad. What I get it? Sucking Ben, But 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:57.799 like it's it's written like a parable. It would be 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.320 something where he has to take something for himself because 0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.120 he stopped being fair. He's been fair as a life 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.080 or some ship. Let's get yeah, like, yeah, we're gonna 0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.080 learn that fairness. I'm excited to get their cody. But 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:14.080 the important thing is I came home Comma quit state period. 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.360 I was there for football anyway, not for my studies. 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.680 When the football went, so did my shot at the 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.480 big time? Well yeah, the big time was the football? 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:30.480 Like what sorry, yeah, okay, fine, bad sentence. We're moving on. 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.760 And was like a saint. She took care of mom 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.840 and me and she made sure we got what we needed. 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.080 Jim would farm and he'd got right and he'd come 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.319 back at night. No, I don't even mean it like that, 0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:46.480 Just like anyway, go ahead, the caretaker. Yeah she was. 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:51.439 She filled her role katie you see. Um, and he'd 0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.879 come back at night and would have dinner already for him. 0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.560 There we go exactly. Uh. Pretty soon I was able 0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.600 to get around on my own. I'd never be able 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.239 to run fast again, but I could at least help out. 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.360 Jim used me mostly for field work, and he handled 0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.399 the sales and the accounting and the marketing or whatever 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.080 the hell else need to be handled. Wait, that's weird. 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:14.239 Why wouldn't Jim do that because you're injured? Whatever. I 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.479 thought it was pretty cush of him to sit there. Okay, 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.080 here we go. I probably I thought it was pretty 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.960 cush of him to sit there in the air conditioned 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:27.280 office and make the decisions while I sweated. Mm hmmm yeah, yeah, 0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.359 yeah again. Another piece of advice would be learned how 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.720 to use the words that just like the words also 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.200 like it's it's one of those things where like you know, 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:40.319 if you like uh center, like if you align the 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.640 text so it's like lined up on the left and 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:44.360 the right and it sort of spreads out the words. 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:49.200 Sometimes it'll it'll split words and have a dash by 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.480 the line, so like this is sweat dash new line ed, 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.840 which is like, it's like really highlighting that it's the 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.960 wrong word anyway, uh, and make the decisions while I sweat. 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.280 But there wasn't much I could do to complain. He'd 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.880 been to college, he knew his stuff. We got along 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.719 like that for a few years. Things hummed along, or 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.040 I guess mosy along is more like it. Same thing. 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:16.959 There is the thing that he does that he doesn't 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.000 seem to care about, and I try to remind I 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.480 give people a pass if it happened sometimes, but he 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:28.640 doesn't all the time. Writer right every so often in 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:32.879 a book that's beautifully written, it's unavoidable. And you see 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:37.080 a word twice really nearby. These important absolutely so important 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.879 to me. When I write a couple of sentences, like, 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.120 I do a pass specifically to make sure there's no repetition. 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:49.640 I'm embarrassed for him that it's like, yeah, it's the same. 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:56.440 It's reading somebody's rough draft, but it's reading a ninth No. 0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.200 When I was a ninth grader, I wrote better fiction 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.680 than this. It wasn't good, but it was better than this. Sure, 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.600 but like an average ninth grader maybe no, you're right, 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.120 I think an average ninth grader. I remember like the 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.480 cartoons and ship my friends would draw, and they all 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.319 had better grip of story structure than this. No, this 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:21.640 is like sixth grade, fifth grade ship. Yeah, things hummed along, 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:29.239 mosey along, it's more like it. Because those different those 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:38.400 those different folksier Cody Mosey is what rural that much folong? No, no, no, 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.279 But I also hate the conceit of um the same thing, 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.400 like in a tweet or anything when someone goes like 0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.520 corrects themselves and then keeps it. Do you know what 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.160 I mean? That concept that structure of like things hummed along? Well, 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:58.600 I guess mosey along is more like it. Edit it. 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.719 It makes mosy to long? Do you know what I mean? 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.600 That's like again trying to be cute. See, it's a 0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.480 tactic that I'm always like out of here with that. 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.600 If you're trying to make it feel like authentically you know, 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:14.320 rule and down home. UM don't have the character self 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:19.600 editing his own thoughts to make himself. We're hearing your 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.239 thought process been as a man whose only time outdoors 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.160 has been that one time you couldn't get to a 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.880 rest stop driving off the five and you had to 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:29.480 pee by the side of the road and you got 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:34.400 scared because of the wind, like bad. Come on. I 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:39.080 I used to write these like, uh, spooky short stories. Uh. 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.319 They were like half like there was like gross and 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.560 silly and like kind of terrible on purpose, and the 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:47.919 narrator was like bad and I would do like comed 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.360 along or I and more like like I guess I 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.600 don't know the word for it actually anyway, and like 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:56.439 I would do because you're making fun of that. Yeah, 0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.759 and mosy is the kind of word today you would 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.000 more often here from like I don't know, somebody who 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.439 got rich in the Bay Area and decided to move 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:06.680 to a town outside of Reading in the middle of 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:14.879 nowhere in order to feel more authentic cowboy where torn 0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.000 good will fucking car hearts but whatever mailed that Robert, 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:27.840 I'm delighted by this episode so far. Yes, m hm anyway, 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:32.799 continuing to repeat this again, we got along like that 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.919 for a few years things hummed along or I guess 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.760 mosey along. It is more like it period until Jim 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.520 had his idea period and then we skip a couple 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:48.360 of lines. It's a new section of time. It struck 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.080 him one day while he was taking don't. You don't 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:52.840 need to skip this, you can just like it's to 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.719 compete a new paragraph. This is weird, all right. It 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.600 struck him one day while he was taking a look 0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:01.040 at the wheat the wheat crop. That night at dinner, 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:07.359 we couldn't stop him from running on at the mouth. Okay, okay, 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:12.680 that's all right. I'm gonna oh, finally a conversation M. 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.080 Like I've been waiting, like showing interaction with between these people, 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.440 like what would what would one person say to the 0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:23.360 other in a room together? We haven't any dialogue, But 0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:27.520 finally some dialogue. M. Tommy, you won't believe this, he said. 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:32.680 Hold on, Jamie said, M. Mom's drooling. She wiped it 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.560 Mom's mouth while Jim babbled onto her. He never was 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:43.200 good at listening. The plow is just not aerating the ground, baby. Okay, 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.640 Well now he's sounding like the guy from Chrue Allegiance. Yeah, yeah, 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:51.000 that's how. Okay, good Good can take a bullet for you, 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:58.200 fucking baby, get run over by a tractor for you, baby. 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.320 He whipped out a piece of odd from his pocket. Jimmy, 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:07.080 take that dirt away from the table, said in his pocket. 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:12.879 In his pocket okay, because he's so goddamn folksy, he's 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:16.040 so down home fucking country boy that he keep his 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:20.839 motherfucking here. Look at how dance it is. Look how 0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.600 there isn't any oxygen getting in there. What if there 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.720 was a plow that was even finer about aerating the ground. 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.799 My god, we could feed the entire world with machinery 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:35.640 like this makes rain cheapest dirt. He's the Tony Stark 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.080 of farms. Yeah. The only issue with everywhere not being 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.040 able to grow all the grain they want is the 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:46.040 soil is to dents d you gotta make it. Yeah, okay, 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:51.000 then the farm nowhere, Ben Shapiro, just like you didn't 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:55.000 have to do this, man, you could have whatever. I mean, 0:45:55.040 --> 0:46:02.279 I'm sure there are yes. Soil is a makes the 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:07.680 only i mean, the only specific of farm life that 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.440 we're getting is this conversation about soil aeration. That's obviously bullshit. 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.880 You know, Like, but he started diagramming charts at the table. 0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.480 My head was spinning, and I wasn't paying attention, So 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.319 why was your head spinning? Like what? Sorry? If you're 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.680 like it's like you're like, if you're not paying attention, 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.239 then it's not like, oh, my head is spinning, like 0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.640 so many things, like no, you're not paying attention, You're 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.880 like blanked out, like whatever, It's fine, Who cares. My 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.000 head was spinning and I wasn't paying attention. I don't 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.520 think m was either. She was wiping it Mom's mouth, 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:41.640 and I have to admit I couldn't take my eyes 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:45.319 off of herky. I've never seen Jim so excited. He 0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:50.280 wasn't the excitable type. Different word, man, use a different word. Uh, 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.080 he wasn't the excitable type. You understand, he got straight 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.759 a's through school. That doesn't mean you're not excitable. What 0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.680 he was always teacher's pet. That also doesn't mean you're 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:02.960 not excitable. What. Everybody knew he'd go to college and 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:06.640 make a name for himself. Like nobody excitable. Ever, and 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.799 Jim knew it too. Ever, since he came back to 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.759 the farm, he'd been in a funk, like farming was 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:18.040 too low for him, I see, unlike Burbank's own, Ben Shapiro, 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:25.520 Austin's now right and again, one of the funniest things 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:29.640 about this is that, like the actual like buying tractors 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:33.360 is a fucking nightmare right now, because John Deere has 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:35.600 such domination of the market, and they do all sorts 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.200 of fund up ship to like make it illegal to 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.520 repair your own tractors a good like for example, say 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:42.800 someone competent like Cory doctor. Would it take on the 0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:45.239 story with aspects of these themes. It would probably be 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.520 about how somebody figured out an incredible way to increase 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:52.879 crop efficiency and productivity by improving their tractor, and then 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.799 the John Deer Corporation came after them and destroyed their 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.320 life for legally modifying their own piece of equipment. Like again, 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.680 an author with something to say could take elements of 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.400 this and make a story. But this has been so 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.800 I'm gonna guess magically, the fact that the tractor, the 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:10.960 fact that there's a huge barrier to entry and even 0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:14.120 manufacturing tractors, the fact that John Deere keeps it on 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.200 such like, all this stuff, I'm gonna guess is not 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.560 at all a factor in the stories. Would that be correct, Cody, 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.400 what you're saying being I would say that is correct. 0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.520 This yard boy just make a tractor that gets huge. 0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:28.920 Despite what you're describing seeming to me to be a 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:33.360 bit unfair, Yeah, it does seem I mean it seems 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.439 like you could make a great story called What's Fair 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:39.080 about You? Maybe his dad raises him with these strong 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.680 energy fairness and they're farming family and aspects of John 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:46.160 Dear's intellectual property ship fucks them over and sure to 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.840 get Bench Shapiro this episode, I think he's going to 0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:53.759 be really yeah, yeah, anyway, just been I guess my 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.759 other piece of advice, my third piece of advice to 0:48:55.800 --> 0:49:00.000 you this episode is have something to say. Yeah, oh, well, 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.600 get to what he has to say. I shouldn't be 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.520 telling him, just dying to know what is fair? Mhm, 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.279 nothing's fair. Life's not fair, I assume, and shouldn't be, 0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:13.600 is what I assume he is about to say. But farming, 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:18.000 it's too low for Jim, is what I've gathered. I 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.200 always think that's why he hold up in the office 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.360 and let me do the grunt work. But now he 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:26.480 was excited again. Wait, he said he wasn't excited. He was, 0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:32.600 and he's not excitable. You said he wasn't excitable and 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:36.800 that he never liked that, he never liked farming. So 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:41.359 he's excited about farming again. Two paragraphs earlier quote, I'd 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:44.480 never seen Jim so excited and then so now here 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.640 we are, but now he was excited again. Great, the 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:49.680 energy coming off him like the buzz in the air 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:53.600 after a lightning strike, Unlike anything before, except apparently some 0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.800 other time that I'm remembering. He was drawing diagrams and 0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.560 he was grabbing him. This is so god like. Delete 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.440 one of those sentences. He was drawing diagrams, and he 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:04.840 was grabbing him around the waist and singing little songs 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:06.720 to her. And he was even holding up those drawings 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:10.040 so Mom could see, even though she wasn't really seeing anything. 0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.680 Too many evens in there. Uh. Then he came around 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.880 and gave me a hug around the neck. It was 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:17.680 the first time he'd hugged me since we were in 0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:22.040 elementary school together. Tommy, he said, we're gonna be rich. 0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:30.200 The productor's name is Tommy. Okay, okay, uh. Moving on 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.040 through time. As much time as he had spent in 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.080 the office, he was now spending it in the barn, 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:39.160 messing with our mechanical plow. Every time I'd go in there, 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.719 he'd be underneath the thing, a hammer or a wrench 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.920 in his hand, bashing away at the thing, not the thing, 0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:49.000 things tightening something here screwing something there. Yeah, I shouldn't 0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.480 have called it the thing twice in a row, real 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:56.279 close together. It's just and like it's just awkward. Every 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.040 time I'd go in there, he'd be underneath the thing, 0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.279 a hammer, a wrench in hand, bashing away. It's the 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:04.760 thing awful, it really, it's like nails on a chalkboard. 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:08.080 To me, I don't interject every time it happens, but 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:13.600 it's like something twinges in my spine. Not again. The 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:17.960 finances went to the dogs. Okay. One time I signed 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:22.000 a check at the grocery and we were overdrawn. Another time, wait, 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:26.319 you can't overdraw the check? Bub how did you know? Yeah? 0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.400 All right. Another time, I mean maybe they can, maybe 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:33.680 there's something, but go on. Another time the mortgage man 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:41.919 came down the road, fucking kidding me. Another time, that's 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:47.600 like that's our version of tax man or whatever. Another 0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:50.160 time the mortgage man came down the road and asked 0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.200 if we needed more time on the payment. We didn't. 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.040 Jim had just forgotten to pay him. Even m was 0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:01.120 getting worried about his absent mindedness. And with Jim out 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:08.560 of control, everything's fun. Out of control. Oh fuck, that's 0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:12.000 good that's just good clean fun. Cody, That's that's just 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:21.320 good clean fun. That's we no notes on that clean. Yeah. 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.319 Well let's splut this into a part two. Yeah, we 0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.279 can do part two. We can continue this on into 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:30.880 the fucking new year. Um. I would do this the 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:34.440 rest of my life because I mean, be careful. That's 0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:41.719 how we get ourselves into another new show. Like, let's 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:47.239 not say anything. We can't take good Katie can't. We're like, 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.799 we're good at it. And then let's just do it 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:56.480 every day and the souls are dead. Um, there's not 0:52:56.680 --> 0:53:00.560 like a good like time jump coming up for another 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:06.160 couple of pages. Um, although we stop it here. Uh, honestly, 0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.960 we can stop it. Uh yeah, and with gim out 0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:13.960 of control, it seems like a good stopping spot. Agree, 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:18.640 you guys are yeah everything yeah, don't with everything out 0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:21.879 of control on this podcast, don't let yourself spin out 0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:28.960 of control until next time when this is though. What 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:35.239 an amazing writer. Yeah, this is a Christmas holiday miracle, 0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:39.640 a miracle we tease something fun for you guys, and 0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.839 this is this is what you've you've you deserved this 0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:46.200 after the year. This is like it's like either a 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.720 compliment or a threat like yeah, I don't know which 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:54.040 all is fair. Maybe we deserve this, you deserve this. Yeah, 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:57.200 I can imagine us like patting a patting an exhausted 0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:59.480 nurse on the shoulder and saying you deserve this, and 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:01.520 also staring at like an n f T brow and 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:08.480 going you deserve this. You and your ape show UM, 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.640 so yeah, I think um with gmatic control. Everything's when 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.400 I control. And we'll be back, uh next time to 0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:18.320 find out the rest of this paragraph. 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