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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on July sixth, and then we'll take

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Speaker 1: another small hiatus because the NHL Draft we'll be We'll

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Speaker 1: but it and it really is sometimes that simple. This

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Speaker 1: guy can play more spots than that guy. He's in,

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Speaker 1: he's out. Um and Jordan Poyer started as a corner

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Speaker 1: and then transitioned to safety. Could Nick McLeod be on

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Speaker 1: a similar track. We don't know yet, but and that's

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Speaker 1: the experimenting. If the stereotype, and of course this is

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Speaker 1: just what it is, stereotype doesn't hold true. UM corners

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Speaker 1: are higher in athleticism, safeties are higher in in cognitive

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Speaker 1: knowing the whole defense football like you meshing fronts with

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Speaker 1: with coverages, knowing where the linebackers are and where they

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Speaker 1: fit as and where you know where the rush is

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Speaker 1: coming from, where the weaknesses are. Those guys are more

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Speaker 1: cerebral and the outside guys, because of the nature of

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Speaker 1: the business, are the more athletes. So when a guy

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Speaker 1: as a corner starts to lose a step when he

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Speaker 1: gets twenty nine thirty thirty one years old, slides over

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Speaker 1: to safety being and his experience carries him through there.

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Speaker 1: All Charles Woodson, you know those kind of guys, Charles Woodson, Rodwoods,

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Speaker 1: Zod Woodson. Yeah, there'd been Dion Sanders could have played

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Speaker 1: anywhere in the secondary. Yeah, guys like that that you

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Speaker 1: can do that with. And it's a plus. And given

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Speaker 1: what we know about player development here in Buffalo, I

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Speaker 1: think that may be a bigger factor than where we've

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Speaker 1: given it credit for. Speaking of cornerbacks, I found this interesting.

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Speaker 1: We have our Camp Countdown series running on Buffalo bills

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Speaker 1: dot Com with some positional previews camp battles, some outlooks

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Speaker 1: for the offense, defense, and special teams. Today's installment focused

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Speaker 1: on how guys like Dane Jackson and Kayer Elam will

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Speaker 1: compete for his starting role of cornerback, and I found

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Speaker 1: some of Elam's comments in the piece very interesting. Listen

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Speaker 1: to this, Steve. The biggest lesson I learned in the

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Speaker 1: spring practices was situational football, said Elam. My growth and

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Speaker 1: knowledge about situational football have grown tremendously in the short

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Speaker 1: amount of time I've been here. I've learned so much

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Speaker 1: and I'm still learning to this day. Learning what the

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Speaker 1: offense is expecting and what the defensive coordinator is trying

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Speaker 1: to do to counter that. I think that's grown exponentially

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Speaker 1: thanks to coach McDermott. He preaches and harps on that daily.

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Speaker 1: Also the importance of taking the ball away in this league.

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Speaker 1: It's super duper hard and the great ones can do

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Speaker 1: it consistently. Situational football. Are you somewhat surprised that that

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Speaker 1: is not taught more stringently at the college level, because

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Speaker 1: this is clearly an eye opener for Kayer Elam. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I think that at the college level,

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Speaker 1: and let's face it, those guys get twenty hours a

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Speaker 1: week in college to go in there. That includes practice,

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Speaker 1: so there's no time to sweat the details. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta play it like this. Now. Certainly, situational football does

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Speaker 1: play a role, no question about it. But I think

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Speaker 1: it falls more on the coaching staff than it does

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Speaker 1: on players an individual individual, because the player, the coaches

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Speaker 1: will say, listen, in this situation, we want these three

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Speaker 1: guys on the field instead of those three that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. They'll they'll because you got nine thousand guys

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Speaker 1: on your exaggerating, you got ninety guys on your roster,

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Speaker 1: and you can pick and choose which athletes you want

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Speaker 1: in a given situation due to their skill sets if

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Speaker 1: you can, if you can get to know them that well.

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Speaker 1: So I think that false situational football at the college

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Speaker 1: level falls on the coaching staffs and strategy, rather than

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Speaker 1: having guys out there saying you know what, hey, on

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Speaker 1: this down to distance, they like to do this and this,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to try and hit us here. Particularly

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Speaker 1: if we show this defense, they have a tendency to

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Speaker 1: strike right here. So let's be ready for that and

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Speaker 1: jump it those kind of Yeah, that kind of down

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Speaker 1: and distance awareness. It's hard and it changes drastically on

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Speaker 1: a week to week basis because of your opponent. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, so the amount of variables are

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Speaker 1: right infinite. Yeah, so that that takes some That takes

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Speaker 1: somewhere with all of some experience and some real and

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Speaker 1: no matter how smart you are, it takes time. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: time to master time on task for sure. But I

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Speaker 1: just thought it was very eye opening to me that

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Speaker 1: the level of situational you know, I I would always

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Speaker 1: expect at the NFL level, the degree of situational football

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Speaker 1: is at its peak. But it all Elam almost made

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Speaker 1: it sound like, oh wow, like outside of in college

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Speaker 1: football saying it's third down, we probably got a pass

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Speaker 1: coming here, it doesn't sound he goes a whole lot

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Speaker 1: deeper than that. Yeah, And I think also it's nice

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Speaker 1: that he got that, you know. Oh yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive that he's, oh that that kid's a sponge. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like that about it too, and I like worse

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Speaker 1: you know that he had that answer ready too when

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Speaker 1: he was asked. He said, listen to situational football thing

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Speaker 1: is huge, Um, because it is. It is, and it's

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Speaker 1: an aspect that a lot of people we don't really

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Speaker 1: talk about because it's so specific to each game in

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Speaker 1: each matchup, we have to take a break here. The

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Speaker 1: obil fan mail bag is open for you if you

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Speaker 1: have any questions for us, since we have a shortened

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Speaker 1: week here with this being our last show of the week,

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Speaker 1: that is open for you to peruse at One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, though Bill's Hall of Fame coach

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Speaker 1: Marv Leaving sat down with Steve and his son Luke.

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Speaker 1: We will explain, but we'll be bringing that to you

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Speaker 1: and next here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown. Steve's asked me with you,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring a Hall of Fame coach Marv leave

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Speaker 1: it to you in a second. But Steve needs to

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Speaker 1: explain since it was him and his son Luke that

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Speaker 1: we're able to talk to. A couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: Marv got inducted into the Canadian Football Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: and the Hall of Fame for those of you who

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Speaker 1: don't know's in Hammer in Ontario, and some of you

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Speaker 1: do know, my son Luke is the radio analyst for

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Speaker 1: the Hamilton Tiger Cats. So through all of that, we

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Speaker 1: decided to team up together try and get Marv on

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Speaker 1: because Marv couldn't travel to the ceremonies. So we got

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Speaker 1: Marv on a zoom call my son Luke and I

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Speaker 1: to talk to him about his induction into the Canadian

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame in conjunction also with his induction

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Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame so many years ago,

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Speaker 1: becoming only one of three people to be in both

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Speaker 1: those halls of Fame, joining Bud Grant and Warren Moon.

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Speaker 1: Here's the interview with Luke Tasker, the radio analyst for

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Speaker 1: the Hamlin Tiger Cats, and myself a week or so

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Speaker 1: ago with Marv Levy. Well, Marv, thanks for coming on

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Speaker 1: with us and congratulations on your induction to the Canadian

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. What was your reaction to getting

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Speaker 1: the call? Oh, I'll tell you, I was overwhelmed that

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Speaker 1: it would happen. I didn't at the time know the

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Speaker 1: president of the president current president, the Montreal o wets

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Speaker 1: Mario's Casini, but I think he's the man who maybe

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00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: worked very hard on getting that to come to fruition.

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Speaker 1: But I was overwhelmingly complimented to hear that. It's been

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Speaker 1: a long time since I left there, and there were

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Speaker 1: only five of my forty seven coaching years there were

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Speaker 1: in Montreal, but they remained very prominent in my memories.

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00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed them, and you joined an elite list. More.

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Speaker 1: There's only three people that are in the Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and the Canadian Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: It's you, Budd Grant and Warren Moon in both halls.

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Speaker 1: That's god of make you feel really special. Absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: was aware of that. I did know Budd Grant well,

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Speaker 1: competed against him in Canada and then competed against him

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Speaker 1: when I was the coach of the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and he with the Vikings. I had high regard for him.

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Speaker 1: Whatever I knew about Warren Moon also was very high,

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Speaker 1: and Steve will remember that one when we had the

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Speaker 1: great comeback game against the Oilers of the Warren down there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm overwhelmingly complimented to join those two in

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Speaker 1: the in both halls of fame. Yeah, that's that's a

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Speaker 1: special group of men. And Dad, you played with Warren

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Speaker 1: Moone also in Houston. That's kind of cool. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: connected to both you and Warren. Warren was of teammate

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Speaker 1: of mind in my rookie season with the Houston Oilers,

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Speaker 1: and then of course I played with you for over

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Speaker 1: a decade. I was gonna ask you a little bit

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Speaker 1: about your Canadian football career. Mark. My son Luke played

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Speaker 1: for the Hamilton Tiger Cats and all I and I

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Speaker 1: never saw this, but I heard stories about this place

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Speaker 1: called ivor Win Stadium, and it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: where the locals seem to really love it and nobody

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Speaker 1: else did. Do you remember ivor Win Stadium in Hamilton, Ontario? Well,

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Speaker 1: very very faintly, Steve, what I read Rebamber. More than anything,

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Speaker 1: there is one of our great to championship games in

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Speaker 1: in Calgary where it was about twenty below zero and

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00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: I wound up with frost bite that hasn't left me since.

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Speaker 1: But no, kill, I remember going to Hamilton. I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the time there, but it was an in and out

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00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: type of experience in most of those places. And I

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00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: know that Luke, you've played there with the Tiger Cats,

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Speaker 1: and everybody there has everything that I've heard from sure

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Speaker 1: does have high esteem for you. Yeah, well, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that Hamilton marv is very much a Buffalo light community

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Speaker 1: in Canada and they take and hold the tie Cats

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Speaker 1: dear to heart very much, so like like Buffalo does

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Speaker 1: for the Bills and uh Iver Win is now no

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Speaker 1: longer standing, but Tim Horton's Field is the home of

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Speaker 1: the Hamilton Tiger Cats and the home of the Canadian

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, where your busts now now sits

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Speaker 1: for for all football future to come. So that's very

601
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Speaker 1: very cool. My head coach for some of my seasons

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Speaker 1: in Canada also was inducted alongside of you for the

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Speaker 1: Hamilton or for the Canadian Football Hall of Fame, and

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Speaker 1: that is Orlando Steinhauer, who is the current head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Hamilton Tiger Cats. So Marva was very special.

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Speaker 1: I had my head coach and my dad's head coach

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Speaker 1: in the same class for the Canadian Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Very cool, Oh, it sure is. No, The history is great.

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Speaker 1: Would take a lot of study to catch up on it.

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Speaker 1: I know you're doing a lot of that role you're

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Speaker 1: playing and did play before. So boy, what an honor

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Speaker 1: and joy it is for me to talk with the

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Speaker 1: taskers and to convey through you to those great fans

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Speaker 1: in Canada. My fondest memories of my days up there.

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Speaker 1: All right, last question for me. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: take us down a rabbit hole or anything, but you

617
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: were known as a special teams champion and some of

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Speaker 1: the things I watched a lot of Canadian football when

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Speaker 1: Luke was playing in Canada, and there are a ton

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Speaker 1: of difference. It's a different game, there's no doubt about it,

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of similarities as well. And

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Speaker 1: one of the things I would like to see, and

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Speaker 1: I want you to get your take, is some of

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Speaker 1: the special teams differences that there are in Canada. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can actually speak to it

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Speaker 1: after so long, but some of the rules that they

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Speaker 1: have in Canada are completely different than they are in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And I was wondering how likely or how

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Speaker 1: prevalent was it that you've seen the NFL adopt rules

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Speaker 1: like that and change And what would you like to

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Speaker 1: see different about the NFL if anything, Well, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see the Buffalo Bills win this Hooper ball. No

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00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: leagues are different. It really is the same things. Win.

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Speaker 1: If you run through, block, tackle, catch kick better than

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Speaker 1: you're you're gonna win, whether it's the CFL or the NFL. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the rules are different. I don't know, maybe the Canadians.

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Speaker 1: Some of the Canadian league rules have changed yourself when

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Speaker 1: I was up there, But you can have men in

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Speaker 1: motion towards the line of scrimmage. Twelve people on a team.

640
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: We used to have a twenty yard end zone. Then

641
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: the field had more than twice the square yardage of

642
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: an NFL field. Again, there have probably been changes made

643
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: about which I'm not really aware, but I remember that

644
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: the athletic directs up there. When I was first brought in,

645
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: Ji all breck Tomy mark you got twelve men on

646
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: the team and say, oh okay. Then as a receiver,

647
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: and after the first game he came back in the office,

648
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: I said, hey, Ji, you didn't tell me the other

649
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: team could have twelve man also. Now the rules are different,

650
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: but they're interesting. Some of them are very excited to

651
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: keep the game going at high pitch. Hey, Marv, I

652
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: gotta think that you came to Buffalo after your time

653
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, which came after your CFL years, And

654
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: I've always been told your first game as a Buffalo

655
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: Bill was also one other player's first game as a

656
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill and that was Steve Tasker. And I gotta

657
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: think Bill Pollyan and Marv Levy, both with CFL experience

658
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: and putting an emphasis on special team's play. Is there

659
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: something about that that that attracted you to the young

660
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: UH wide receiver special teams A said for the Houston Oilers, Yeah,

661
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story. I remember it well. Yes.

662
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: I was hired in mid season to take over as

663
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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Buffalo Bills of the nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six mid season, and I retained the members of

665
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Mister Wilson fired the head coach, Hank Bula.

666
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: I retained the members of his coaching staff through that year,

667
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: one of them Joe Farregelly, who had formerly been on

668
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: the coaching staff with the Oilers when Steve was there.

669
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: And the rules in the NFL at that time, if

670
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: a player was placed on injured reserve, which Steve was

671
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: with an injury, you could not just activate them off

672
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: of it. You had to put him up for waivers

673
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: and if no one claimed him, you could, you know,

674
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: resign him or activate them. Well, the Oilers placed them

675
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: on waivers, apparently with the very strong intent of resigning him.

676
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: Whoever knew about a guy, you know, he was a

677
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: bit of a lower round draft choice, wasn't real big

678
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: And anyway, Joe fare Gelly came and said, Marve, I

679
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: know your love of the special teams. I'm telling you

680
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: this is the guy you want to claim. And so

681
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: we went down the hall talk to our general manager,

682
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Bill Polian said, Okay, let's claim him. What the heck? Boy?

683
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: Was that a great move. I am always grateful to

684
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: fare Gilly, to Polly, to Tasker and just so many more. Well, Marv,

685
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: thanks so much for spending some time with us. Congratulations

686
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: on induction into what I guess it's got to be

687
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: yet another hall of fame, this one the CFL. One

688
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: of only three people to be in the Pro Football

689
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and in the Canadian Football Hall of Fame.

690
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: Congratulations and thanks so much for spending some time with us. Well,

691
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: thank you, Steve. And the day will come. I am

692
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: certainly hopeful and I believe it that I've been campaigning

693
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: hard and Bill Polly on two and some others. You've

694
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: been on the brink of induction into the NFL Pro

695
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, and that day should come anyway.

696
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Thank you all and thanks for your friendship, your ability

697
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: and so much more. Thanks Marv. Marv alright, Hall of

698
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Fame coach Marv Levy checking in with the taskers there.

699
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: If you're going into the CFL Hall of Fame a

700
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: week or so ago and now, as you heard the

701
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: guys say, one of just three people to be in

702
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the Canadian Football

703
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, the other two being pretty much Warren

704
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: Moon and Bud Grant. That's it. That's the short list.

705
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: That's the list. Pretty cool. It was pretty cool. Marks.

706
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: It was in great spirits and great interview as always,

707
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: and you know he kind of doesn't like to travel

708
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: for the last year or two for obvious reason, the

709
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: pandemic and stuff. But that was nice enough to come

710
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: on with us. We will take a break here. When

711
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: we come back, there's a little bit of an update

712
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: regarding Deshaun Watson's hearing today, and we'll have an update

713
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: on a boxing match between two well NFL running backs.

714
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: They're soon to be former running backs, I suppose, since

715
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: they don't have work right now. We'll let you know

716
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: who's involved. And Steve and I may pick who we

717
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: think could win the dang thing. Next here on One

718
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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Help, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

720
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Tasker with you. The update concerning the Deshaun Watson closed

721
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: hearing today with the NFL NFLPA Independent Arbitrator Sue Robinson

722
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: is that the hearing today could go well into tomorrow

723
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: that according to CBS Sports reporter Jonathan Jones, the NFL,

724
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: the Players Association, and Watson's legal team will all be

725
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: presenting their cases. The NFL is expected, as we know,

726
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: to push for an indefinite suspension of at least a year.

727
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: The judge's decision is expected sometime this week. Of course,

728
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: we are all predicting it'll be a Friday five pm

729
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: news dump where they hope it's not given the coverage

730
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: that maybe some feel it deserves because it's on the

731
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: cusp of a holiday weekend. The other news that we

732
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: wanted to bring to you concerned two veteran running backs

733
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: from the NFL who have signed on to engage in

734
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: an exhibition boxing match. Leveon Bell and Adrian Peterson are

735
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: going to get in the ring and fight each other.

736
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not going to pretend to know if

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00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: either of these men have a boxing background of any

738
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: kind or whether they've ever incorporated boxing type training into

739
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: their offseason regimen. But you want to you want to

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00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: pick a guy in this one's steage. I don't bet

741
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: against Adrian Peterson. He's got some size. I'm going there,

742
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: and they're not that different an age maybe what six

743
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: or eight years tops? Is it that much? Might know?

744
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: If it's that much, that's most, that's it most. But

745
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson has you know, he's kind of freaking nature

746
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: he is, and I don't. And I think that the

747
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: whichever one has less. I don't know if you could

748
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: possibly have less fighting experience than these two guys, which

749
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: makes it a little more interesting, so that one guy

750
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been training to be a fighter his whole life

751
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: as a crossover from football, and the other guy hasn't.

752
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: You're right, Adrian Peterson is thirty seven, Bell is just thirty, right,

753
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: So those are important years though, particularly in athletics, right

754
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: thirty age thirty years to the thirty seven year. Yeah, interesting,

755
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: it's probably only going to be did you see how

756
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: long it's supposed to go. They was usually only go

757
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: six round. Stops would probably only go through. I don't know,

758
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: maybe be a three round. It probably might only be three.

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00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: It might only be three. Yeah, I'm telling you what

760
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: I've We used to fool around with all kinds of

761
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: cross training, with gymnastics and you know, MMA stuff and stuff.

762
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: You go three minutes trying to punch a bag, You're done.

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00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. You're oh my gosh, it's

764
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: it's incredibly difficult. Plus you add these spice of adrenaline.

765
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: Once you do that step into the ring where you're

766
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna get hit. He passed. I pass out in twenty seconds.

767
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: My adrenaline would just kill me, my own adrenaline. Oh

768
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: my gosh. So tail, I don't tale of the tape

769
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: it makes sense. I mean I always thought that's what

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00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: the fight game was. And only now in this you know,

771
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: current point in history, we're starting to get more and

772
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: more odd matchups. Right, they're not professional fighters, but let's

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Speaker 1: see him fight Levion Bell and Adrian Peterson. So they're

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Speaker 1: both six one. As we already mentioned, Bell is seven

775
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: years younger at thirty, Peterson's thirty seven. Bellway's two twenty five,

776
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: Peterson two seventeen, and we know they've both been multiple

777
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers. As we know, Peterson was an MVP former

778
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: NFL Offensive Player of the Year. Neither of them are

779
00:45:55,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: officially retired from the NFL. Bell was with Tampa and

780
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: Baltimore last year for a total of eight games. Peterson

781
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: was with Tennessee in Seattle for a total of four

782
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: games last season. It's interesting these guys wait for a

783
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: while before they signed their, you know, their retirement papers.

784
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: I guess Brett Farve started all that right with unretiring

785
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: and retiring and yeah, interesting, but so whatever. Boxing has

786
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: apparently long been a passion for Bell, who used the

787
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: sport as cardigo during his time with the Steelers. So

788
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: and his passion for the sport grew during his year

789
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: away from football in twenty eighteen when he decided not

790
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: to resign with the Steelers. Frank Gore probably opened up

791
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: that door for people too. Yeah, Frank, Yeah, he had

792
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: a fight or two. Yeah, we actually had some of

793
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: that footage chair a couple of months. Especially won his fight.

794
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: He did no details on how many rounds this thing

795
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: is supposed to go, but my guess would be three.

796
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Yeah, but I don't know.

797
00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: That's Levion Bell and Adrian Peterson. Yeah, I don't know why.

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00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm going with Peterson and that one. I

799
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: expect him. Although although Bell, you know, he said he's

800
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's at least done boxing type training. It's

801
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: part of his offseason regiment, So maybe that gives him

802
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: an advantage. But when somebody's standing in front of it's

803
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: a whole different ballgame. Nobody compared to shadow boxing, right,

804
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: nobody's swinging at him. Yeah, you get punched in the mouth.

805
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: Things changed pretty quickly. That Mike Tyson thing. Everybody's got

806
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: a plan until you get hit in the face. Yeah,

807
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: that is a great quote, isn't it. That's one of

808
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: the old thing, Mike. That may be the all time

809
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: greatest quote for a for anybody, for any fighter, for sure.

810
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: You can remember when Sunday Listen said this about Cash

811
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: and then it was cash his clay. He can run,

812
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: but he can't hide. That was a good one. Yeah,

813
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: but everybody's got a plan until they get hit in

814
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: the face is an even better one because it's true,

815
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: so true, very true, so true. Oh yeah, So imagine,

816
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever amount of money you want to

817
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: slap down on a pay per view, you'll get Oh wow,

818
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: did pay per view pick that up? Wouldn't that? And

819
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: that the only way you can get I mean, how

820
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: else they gonna do it? Why else would they do

821
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: it if they're not gonna get paid and paid hand? Oh,

822
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: there's definitely money involved. Right. It's gonna take place out

823
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: in La so La, not Vegas, no Los Angeles is

824
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: where the two are supposed to fight, according to the

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00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: write up that I saw on it. All right, so

826
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Speaker 1: we'll we'll have to see what comes of it. We'll

827
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: have to see if either of these guys was evidently training.

828
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you could be entertaining. I mean,

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Speaker 1: two pretty big dudes too. This would qualify as a

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00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: heavy weight bout. Oh you know, two guys six one

831
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Speaker 1: and over two bills. Yeah, that's that's a heavy weight

832
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: bout right there. So you know the punching power will

833
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: be there. I know, I've told you, like, I've only

834
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: attended a couple of backs boxing matches where I've been

835
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: close enough to appreciate the power being generated by big humans,

836
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: and one of them was a heavyweight match. And it

837
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: was the first one I had ever been to. R

838
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: and TV does not do it justice because the power

839
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: of the bombs these guys are throwing does not come

840
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: through the television. It just doesn't. And then when you're there,

841
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: if you're sitting close enough, you'll win a little bit.

842
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes like the first round. I'm sitting there. Oh man,

843
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: oh man. See that's the thing I've been to. I've

844
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: been to all just about every major sports pinnacle, ament

845
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: of World Series games, super Bowl obviously, NBA games, you know,

846
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon, car races, you know, horse races, hockey games,

847
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup final games. I mean, you go, you know,

848
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: now I've been I've never been to a prize fight.

849
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: I've never been to a fight. And back in the day,

850
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: Bruce was and still is good friends with Sweet Pete

851
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Pernell Whittaker, who is you know, kind of his thing

852
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: was that he was the best pound for pound fighter

853
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: on the planet, right really, so Bruce and they were

854
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: from they were both from Virginia Beach. So Bruce and

855
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: Sweet Pea were real buddies. So they all went out,

856
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: all the guys when off season, went out to watch

857
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: Sweet pet fight, and they came back absolutely bonkers over

858
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: what they saw. They couldn't they they were like, oh

859
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: my gosh, we couldn't. He was like a lightweight. He

860
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: wasn't even a right big fighter, you know, not that

861
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: those guys can you can imagine the electricity. I can't

862
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: even imagine the electricity in the joint when these guys

863
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: walk out, you know, when it's you know, the big

864
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: run up and can you imagine the old Ali Frasier fights.

865
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Foreman for Mike Tyson and you know, um,

866
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: I will say Mike Tyson's punching power that did translate

867
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: the television. Yeah, I mean that was just Mike Tyson

868
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: LEAs Michael Spinks. I mean I was only a teenager

869
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: when he was fighting, but there were times I'd be

870
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: watching fights going he might take this guy's head clean

871
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: off his shoulders. Who Mike Tyson's who? Who? Who's here?

872
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Did he bite off? Vander the two of those we

873
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: had at vander Holefield on the show when we were

874
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: at the at the Super Bowl one time and he

875
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: came on with us, And it's crazy to think about

876
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: the electricity in the air of one of those fights,

877
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: just like that, you know, the Super Bowl I've been.

878
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: I've been in and around those a bunch. It's a

879
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: little bit like that NBA games where those guys come

880
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: walking out of the tunnel and you know, and people

881
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: are close in NBA games, really close to the action.

882
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing there. In hockey, it's a little

883
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: different because there's glass and all of that stuff. But

884
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: those guys are tooling around with a stick in there. Yeah,

885
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: the electricity. I gotta go to a fight sometimes, I

886
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: gotta go pretty crazy. I want to see one of those.

887
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. Our number two

888
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: coming your way, and we'll be joined by producer and

889
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: director Jake Sipperman, who put together a documentary on the

890
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: first wheelchair football team in Buffalo. Plenty more on that.

891
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: When we returned, You're on One Bill's Live presented by

892
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. At a Steve Tasker

893
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

894
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you.

895
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: Stave of a lily, Steve a blimp. We're not even

896
00:52:50,960 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy. I was waiting and

897
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: then we were blessed with wheelchair football. This game needs

898
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: everything who should be slammingball and swamming bleeding just to

899
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: make it down that field. Guys who are here every

900
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: day are gonna play. Guys who are working hard and

901
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: showing commitment are gonna play. This is brand new, and

902
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: we're excited to be one of only nine cities across

903
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: the country. No matter what, this right here is the

904
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: first Buffalo wheelchair football all right. What our MSG viewers

905
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: were just watching and what our radio listeners were listening

906
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: to was a documentary on the first Buffalo wheelchair football team.

907
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: The documentary is called Concrete Gridiron and joining us now

908
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: on the show is the producer and director of that,

909
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: doctor Jake Simperman, joining us here. How you doing, Jake, Hey,

910
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. And what a

911
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: nice surprise to be following up my friend and former

912
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: hockey teammate Luke Tasker. Yeah that's right. Yeah, Jake grew

913
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: up in Anya and actually his dad's a friend of mine.

914
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: But we found out about this, uh, this documentary, and

915
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: it tells the story of this group of guys who

916
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: and this, let's face it, this is just a fledgling

917
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: sport to say the least, and of course Buffalo one

918
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: of I think what nine NFL cities that have teams

919
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: and kind of just started from scratch. Give us a

920
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: little idea about the story that you tell. Yeah, so,

921
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, I mean this is this is really

922
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: focused on two of the main players on this team,

923
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: and I mean, all these guys come from such different

924
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: and fascinating backgrounds. Um, it was really difficult to decide

925
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: who to focus on. But it's really about their personal journeys.

926
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: And you know, you have to remember most of these

927
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: guys have never played football before, so it's a total

928
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: learning experience and it's just amazing to see them develop

929
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: and the things that they're able to do physically. Since.

930
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: Been a pleasure to work with these guys. And I'm

931
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: curious Jake, to know how this became your project. So

932
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: why don't you just like lay out how you became

933
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: involved in how this kind of became your baby, this documentary. Yeah,

934
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: so kind of funny. I ran into my old football

935
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: coach from high school, Tim Wade, at a music festival

936
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: in East Torora Borderland Music Festival, and you know, I

937
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: wanted to know how retirement life was was treating him,

938
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: and it turned out he wasn't so retired. In fact,

939
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: he was coaching an entirely new sport, wheelchair football, and

940
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: as he you know, began to describe the game to me,

941
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I was immediately fascinated. And you know, practices were starting

942
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: in a few days, so, you know, Monday morning I

943
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: called him and I just said, look like this sounds

944
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: incredible and just coming from a filmmaking background, like I'd

945
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: love to be a part of this first season, and

946
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: to their credit, they welcomed me with open arms, and

947
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: it kind of just took off from there and this,

948
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, this started obviously with low expectations, and this

949
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: was more about an activity that it was more about

950
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: the players than it was about the sport. If I'm

951
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Is that kind of the right

952
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: way to look at this? This whole sport is more

953
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: about the players who play it than it is about

954
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: at least for us and people watching, it's more about

955
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: the players than it is about the wheelchair sport. Yeah,

956
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look what wheelchair football is an incredible outlet

957
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: for these guys, you know, to be competing in, but

958
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: I think giving them a chance to be a part

959
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: of a team and to be able to experience football

960
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: and the camaraderie and you know, competitive spirit like you know.

961
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: To me, that's that's what this is all about. And

962
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: your documentary here is gonna be kind of the centerpiece

963
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: of a fundraising effort right in East Aurora. Right yeah,

964
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: So tonight it's premiering at six pm, sorry, seven pm,

965
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: doors open at six at the Aurora Theater. And that's

966
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: kind of just one component of this, this phone, this

967
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: fundraising effort. After that, there's gonna be a little party

968
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: at forty two North Brewing Company right down the street.

969
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: Um so there's lots of opportunities for people to get

970
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: involved and donate and you know, meet the players. I

971
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: think that's that's gonna be a lot of fun tonight

972
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: for people to meet these guys in person. Um they're awesome,

973
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: they're they're inspiring, but they're also hilarious. Um so you know,

974
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: to get all the team together in Buffalo, it's gonna

975
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: be a really fun night. So tonight, seven o'clock at

976
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: the Aurora Theater. It starts at seven, so'll be there

977
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: a little earlier, doors open at six, like you said,

978
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: with an after party as well. Give us an idea

979
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: of what these guys were up against starting a new league,

980
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: and it was surprising to me that, as you said,

981
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: none of these guys even played high school or any

982
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: kind of football before they started playing in wheelchairs. Yeah,

983
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: and I think it was really challenging from a coaching

984
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: perspective too. As you know, Tim Waite will be able

985
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: to to sort of elaborate on, but you know, the

986
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: whole league is starting from ground zero, so you know,

987
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: you have to understand that this is developing and this

988
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: is a dynamic process where you know, the playbook kind

989
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: of had to be created on the fly because nobody knew,

990
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, what kind of routes for these guys capable

991
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: of of doing. You know, what is it going to

992
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: be like when with jamming and blocking. So you know,

993
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: credit to the coaching staff is they're kind of making

994
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: this stuff up on the fly. And you know, as

995
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: a filmmaker, that's what was exciting to me is to

996
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: be a part of this on the ground floor and

997
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, see the league developed because there's a ton

998
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: of potential here, especially as more cities get involved. And

999
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: just so everybody's clear, all proceeds that are you know,

1000
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: raised to night through donations and at whatever other events

1001
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: you guys may have in the future. We're talking about

1002
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: benefiting Greater Buffalo adaptive sports, right, Yeah, that's correct, And

1003
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: like to be more specific, you know, if you want

1004
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: to know exactly where this money goes to, I think

1005
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: that's important. Sometimes they need a couple of things. One

1006
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: is travel. You know, they are traveling to tournaments all

1007
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: over the country this upcoming season, specifically in Salt Lake

1008
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: City in Chicago, so that's a big thing. But additionally,

1009
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: they need special wheelchairs that can withstand the type of

1010
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: impact and beating that these take during the game. I

1011
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: mean we're talking about you know, fifteen mile hour collisions,

1012
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: so they need to you know, have custom wheelchairs that

1013
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: can withstand that. So that's another portion of what this

1014
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: money will be going towards. What what do you think

1015
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: the future is for this? How widely do you think

1016
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: it can spread? You do you foresee a thirty two

1017
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: team league that mirrors kind of the NFL with a

1018
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: little you know, like Super Bowl festivities that kind of thing.

1019
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: Uh do you do you is there enough interest or

1020
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: what do you see the future and how fast will

1021
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: it grow? Yeah? I mean again, I think our goal

1022
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: is just to create awareness so that this thing can build.

1023
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the first year there was nine teams. There's

1024
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: there's eleven this year. So the growth is going to

1025
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: be exponential, and especially once you have NFL teams on

1026
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: board supporting these initiatives, it's going to be huge. And

1027
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, you see it these tournaments. It brings a crowd,

1028
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: and you know, there's sponsorships and there's activations and these

1029
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: events are really cool. And you know, I again, I

1030
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: think once you get more NFL teams on board, there's

1031
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: there's no reason why there can't be you know, twenty

1032
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: thirty of these programs. It's called Concrete Gridiron. It is

1033
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: documenting Buffalo's first wheelchair football team. It will premiere tonight

1034
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: seven pm at the Aurora Theater in East Aurora, and again,

1035
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: all proceeds benefit Greater Buffalo Adaptive Sports go towards supporting

1036
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: programs for disabled children and veterans of all ages as well. Jake,

1037
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: thanks very much for the time and kind of telling

1038
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: us how this all came to Fruition. Congrats and good

1039
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: luck going forward with it. I'll see you tonight, Jake. Oh,

1040
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: I look forward to it. Talk to you guys. Take care.

1041
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: That's Jake Sipperman, who's the producer and director of Concrete Gridiron,

1042
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: highlighting Buffalo's first wheelchair football team. You know, I was

1043
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: watching the thing. Yeah, collisions are fierce, man. I'm just amazed.

1044
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: They don't get their legs all chopped up, you know,

1045
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: in somebody else's wheel. I know they're angled out to

1046
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: prevent that kind of thing from happen. Yeah, the wheels

1047
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: the chairs were designed to. I mean they're jamming at

1048
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. It's it's something else. Yeah, it's

1049
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And they you know, these guys are they

1050
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: really want to compete, They want to have fun the game.

1051
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: And it was interesting. I had dinner with this coach,

1052
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: Tim Wade, who's a friend of mine, this last week

1053
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: and asked him about all of this stuff, and he

1054
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: said they walked in completely blind to how the game

1055
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: was played, what the rules were. The rules were kind

1056
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: of made up as they went along, and you know,

1057
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: how the game evolved and what plays were possible, Uh,

1058
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: what it really even looked like once they kicked it off,

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01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: so to speak. Um, they didn't know. They didn't even

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01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: know what it looked like to line up. So it

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01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: was truly a ground zero beginning point, and um, it'll

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: be fun to watch it grow. And his two sons

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01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: are coaching along with him there, Andy and Eddie to

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01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: to you know, great young guys both here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: And this team, the Buffalo team that we're seeing clips

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01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: of it now, went to Kansas City for this tournament

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Speaker 1: and you know, they started out they'd like to win

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Speaker 1: a game, try and be competitive, and then then all

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, the big highlight of it

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01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: was they scored touchdown, you know, against one of their opponents.

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01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: That's how far they had to go. And of course

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: now things are often running. It was a great yeah,

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01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: and some great individual stories on that roster, as you

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01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: were saying, you know, you've got a former Army vet,

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01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: you've got a former gold medalist from the Paralympic Games.

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01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: So there's some interesting stories on the roster too. So

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01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: good job by Jake, and hopefully they can raise a

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01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: lot of money not only for the team, but as

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Speaker 1: we said, for disabled children, veterans of all ages in

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Speaker 1: the greater Buffalo area. So cool stuff going on there,

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Speaker 1: So good luck to them. Concrete gridiron and who knows,

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01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, as they said, it's already expanding. They're up

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01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: to eleven teams that will be up tonight at seven

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Speaker 1: pm down in the Aurora Theater. Ten dollar donation to

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01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: get in. You can watch it. It's I think it's

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01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: like an eighteen minute eighteen to twenty minute. I think

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01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: it's twenty something minutes, yeah, twenty something minutes. It's a

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01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: documentary and it's it's actually it's pretty compelling. It's fun

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Speaker 1: to watch, and it'll be a good time tonight. Speaking

1090
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: of upstart Football League, Steve, I don't know if you

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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: saw this, but the USFL is going to have a

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: second season, so they accomplish defeat that no spring football

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01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: league not affiliated with the NFL has reached since the

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: original USFL. They will have a second season in twenty

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01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: twenty three. That according to executive producer Eric Shanks, the

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Speaker 1: USFL will return in twenty twenty three. All eight teams

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01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: from its inaugural season will also be back. The league

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01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: will continue to have its office in Birmingham, where they

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: played all of their regular season games in twenty twenty two. However,

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01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, they're going to branch out a

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: little bit. Not all the games will be fielded in Birmingham.

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: They plan to have all eight teams play in two

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01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: to four markets next year, with the eventual plan for

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01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: all eight teams to play in their home markets. So

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01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be easy because next year, as

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: we know, the XFL comes online, another spring football league

1107
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: set to join the FRAY here. So is there enough

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01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: room for two spring football leagues? Well, we'll find out

1109
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: starting in twenty twenty three. There's a lot of football.

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01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: And every time and every time the NFL grows bigger,

1111
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: somebody else figures it's just about it's about football, or

1112
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: people just want to get me in. People want to

1113
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: see these guys play. They want to see von Miller

1114
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes and Brady and Rogers and

1115
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: all right, they want to see those guys play football

1116
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: against the guys. And it's hard. And I've noticed that

1117
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: I've caught USFL games and I'm always once you tune

1118
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: in anything, Okay, let's watch. And they they're competitive, and

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01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: they're they're playing pretty good. And I don't know a

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: single player on the field and don't have any skin

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: in the game with either franchise. It's hard to hold

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: my attention. You know what I mean, it's hard to

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: hold my attention. Maybe that's just a function of the

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01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: ingrained nature of where I'm at in min I mean,

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm obviously in a different place than a lot of

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01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: beat right right, I do have a little skin in

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01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: the game of one of these franchises, So maybe that's

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01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: it makes a difference. It does make a difference. But

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01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: make kudos to them for making it, putting out another

1130
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: season and then starting to grow just a little bit.

1131
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: So the USFL back in twenty twenty three. The XFL

1132
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: will join them. They will be relaunching next year after

1133
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: two attempts where the league could not get past a

1134
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: single full season. We'll see what happens and what their

1135
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: fate might be beginning next year. Let's go to the

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01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: phones though at eight oh three five fifty one eight

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five, and we have Matt from

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo on the line. What do you have for us? Matt,

1139
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, how's it going, guys? Good?

1140
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: So I heard them, I heard the conversation with Jake.

1141
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: Just appreciate you guys putting us down there. And you know,

1142
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: Truns about the good word about wheelchair football. So did

1143
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: you play or yes, I'm actually the veteran on the team.

1144
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: The army You've got Oh cool, very nice. Thanks listen, man,

1145
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: this is um, this is big. You know, this is huge,

1146
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: and um I'm glad to be a part of it.

1147
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, my teammates, everybody, we've improved over the first year.

1148
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is something I play on,

1149
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: stick with for a long time. This is I'm very passionate.

1150
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: So as the rest of the team, good stuff, man,

1151
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate what has been the biggest change for you

1152
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: guys from maybe that first game they're in Kansas City

1153
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: to where you're at now. I'd have to say that

1154
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things was learning, you know, just

1155
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: learning the system of wheelchair football in general. Learning you

1156
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: know what the calls were going to be, the penalties,

1157
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, the field length and everything else, and especially

1158
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: the first five yard bump like in the NFL. You know,

1159
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: you got your first five yard bump to play against

1160
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: the wide receivers, you know, so we can we can

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01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: hit the chairs, but they have to release at a

1162
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: certain point. So going through the first season and you know,

1163
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: seeing what we had to do, we had to change

1164
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Our run game went to a

1165
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: passing game, you know, so we're trying to build off

1166
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: of that right now. I mean, like I said, we're

1167
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: constantly improving, which is amazing each day in practice to

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: keep on getting better and best. Yeah, I'm kind of curious, Matt,

1169
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: the finishing touches on it. Yeah, I'm kind of curious, Matt,

1170
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: in terms of how much of a leg up did

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01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: these other teams have, because I'm guessing, you know, this

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01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: was your first year, so you were a new team,

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01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: and how long had these other teams been playing wheelchair football.

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01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious what the gap was for you guys to

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01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: make up? Oh curious? Yeah, see, this is we got there.

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, we thought at that point in time, we

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01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: thought that everybody was. We thought that everybody it was

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01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: their first year. But you know, come to find out,

1179
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: there were some teams that actually um been doing it

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01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: for the past two three years, but maybe at an

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: organized level, not necessarily with the league that we're in.

1182
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: Maybe they played some scrimmages. So a couple of these

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01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: teams and if not, if I could be wrong, but

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01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: almost every team you know, had experience with this and

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01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: then the chairs that they had that was that was

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, um, you know, because I'm cracking people

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: as much as I killed my chairs. And that's one

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01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: thing that we're hoping, you know, to get out of

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: the donations for the documentary is to upgrade our chairs

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: because they kept breaking down. These guys had you know,

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01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: welded wheelchairs with their bumpers in the front so nothing,

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01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't stop or stop them from moving properly,

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: and you know, their agility and their movement. So that

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: was one big thing and that's what we're trying to

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01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: do right now. I was trying to upgrade our wheelchairs.

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: Awesome to hear. I'm glad you called Matt. Look look

1197
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: forward to the premier of Concrete Gridiron tonight. I wish

1198
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,839
Speaker 1: you guys the best, and I hope the league grows wildly.

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Speaker 1: It'll be fun to see you guys. Maybe have some

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: exhibition games on a on a Sunday here in the fall. Absolutely,

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: that's what we're looking to do is in the future,

1202
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: which we want to we all host host want somewhere

1203
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: Orchard Park and maybe we worked somewhere with the Bills

1204
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: do it right over there in their parking lot. All right, Matt,

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01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in. We appreciate it. Good luck tonight

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: with the fundraiser. All right, thank you so much, thanks

1207
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Speaker 1: for having me on. All right, Yeah, that's Matt. Who's

1208
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: the guy that is military veteran featured in the Yeah,

1209
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: he's actually one of the featured profiles in the dock tonight,

1210
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: So if you go to the Aurora Theater you'll learn

1211
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: a lot more about him. I think the cool thing

1212
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: in the piece was how impressed he was that one

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: of his teammates was a former Paralympic gold metallist, so

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01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: he was It was funny. He was like a little kid.

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm I'm on the same team is an

1216
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: Olympic gold melans like this is cool, which was pretty neat,

1217
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: but yeah, So good luck to those guys tonight. Hopefully

1218
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: they can raise a lot of money and not only

1219
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: improve their commitment their equipment, which apparently is a bigger

1220
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: factor than everybody initially imagined in that sport, and they

1221
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: can also raise some money for you know, disabled veterans

1222
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 1: and disabled youth in the Buffalo community. So stuff is

1223
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: something we can all do to help. It's a fun

1224
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: thing to do it. It'll be a neat premiere tonight,

1225
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: and it'll be a chance to if you want, you

1226
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: can go out and meet some of these guys at

1227
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: the after party to the screening of this documentary. The

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: OBIL fan mail bag is up today on a rare

1229
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: Tuesday edition because this is our last show of the

1230
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: week before we get some time off during the July

1231
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: fourth holiday. And question coming in here from Andrew do

1232
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: you think Singletary keeps the number one spot of the

1233
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: running back order or do you think Cook takes it.

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: I've kind of always been of the opinion, Steve, that

1235
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: this is going to be somewhat of a I don't

1236
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 1: even know if I want to call it a committee backfield,

1237
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: more of a rotational backfield. I think Singletary will get

1238
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: the most work, certainly at the outset, but if Cook

1239
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: really impresses, there's and who knows in a given week,

1240
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: a given game plan, Cook could very well be a

1241
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: bigger part of it. If he has the kind of

1242
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: training camp in preseason that everybody's anticipating. They're different players,

1243
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: they are Singletary. Well, we know what Devin's Singletary as

1244
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: he came on at the end of last year, finished

1245
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: up the season really well in the running game, and

1246
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: I think James Cook has a different skill set that

1247
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: is more conducive to I think modern NFL. I think

1248
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: the guy runs out, catches passes extremely well. He's a

1249
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: good running back, and I think his physical tools are

1250
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: probably a little step ahead of where Devin's Singletary's are.

1251
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: But we've seen this movie before. The Bills don't just

1252
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: throw a guy out there because of where they drafted him.

1253
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: He'll have to earn it, and he'll have to carve

1254
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: out a role on the team. And the bigger the role,

1255
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: the more snaps he gets, and the sooner he'll play.

1256
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: We'll see what training camp brings in the preseason games.

1257
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: I yeah, you gotta earn it here. That's the way

1258
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: McDermott operates, and I understand why. But as soon as

1259
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: he demonstrates a capability of executing making plays, I don't

1260
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: think there's any question he's going to bring juice to

1261
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: the offensive backfield. And I'm not trying to discount the

1262
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: exploits of Duke Johnson, who is also a very accomplished

1263
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: receiving back. This kid just looks different and I'm going

1264
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: to anticipate he's gonna be on the field sooner rather

1265
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: than later. It's just a matter of how much they

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Speaker 1: choose to utilize him in a giving week and how

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: much more importantly, Steve, how much he can handle. You know,

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: there are there's a lot of testing that goes on

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: with new players on the roster, both veteran and rookie.

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: And with rookie it is how much of the volume

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: can he handle and then execute in the snap of

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: a finger on the field. And don't forget too this

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01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: coaching staff. You know, you spend a lot of time

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01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: getting to know what your players can do and what

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: they can't do. In the NFL these days, it's hard

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01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: to find out about all you need to know about

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: a player because there's not contact in practice. You don't

1278
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: know if James Cook can pick up a blitzing linebacker

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01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. You don't know if he can

1280
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: block on the edge or chip off the edge coming

1281
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. You don't know if he can

1282
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: pick up the pass protection and execute the pass protection

1283
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: schemes when Josh changed him at the line of scrim

1284
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: What matchups can he win in the pass route and

1285
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: in pass protection. Because there's no contact and no pads

1286
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: at practice. They don't know if he can do any

1287
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: of this stuff yet, so they got to kind of

1288
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: find out when live game reps come during the preseason

1289
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: or when one or two practices a week or every

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01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: so often that they can find out if he can

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: do it, at least against their own players. So right now,

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01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: James Cook could be knocking it out of the park

1293
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: in shorts and T shirts. We'll see what happens when

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01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: they put pat And he's played a lot of football

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01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: at a very high level, so you would think he's

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01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: not going to be in over his head, but you

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01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: still got to find out. Break time for us here

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01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: when we come back, more of your questions from the

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: obl fan mail bag and a little NFL True false

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01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: coming your way. Those things next here on One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live Present about collid to health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: Come back to the One Builds Live. A special edition

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: of the fan mail bag is open, and we'll take

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01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 1: another question at this time, this one from Nick who says,

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: at this point, which position group are you least comfortable

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01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: with going into this season? It's a pretty complete roster. Steve,

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01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: is there a position you're a little uncomfortable with be

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01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find one. I think if you pressed me,

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01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: I would probably say, like what we've been saying, I

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: would say depth that outside receiver behind Diggs and Davis.

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01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: I question whether there's a top flight guy right behind

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: those two talent. A lot of it's unproved. Certainly, there's

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: enough slot receivers for three teams on this squad, you know,

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: so um but outside, I don't know if there's enough

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: guys that have been proven with enough experience. Certainly there's

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01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: enough guys that know the offense. Hodgens will know the offense,

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01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 1: Kumaro will know the offense. But that's outside of Dison Davis,

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: but proven guys. That's probably where i'd go. M Yeah,

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01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean where else are you going? Where else you're looking?

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01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: You know? I mean that's that's about it. Yeah, I

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01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: would say. The only other one for me that you

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: might want to consider is depth at linebacker. You have

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01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: Tyrrell Dodson, Terrell Bernard, the third round pick is there.

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: He's unproven at this level. So you have Joe Giles

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: Harris on the roster as well. But the depth there,

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01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: you could argue, might be a little cause for concern.

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 1: But I mean I think we're really nitpicking here. Yeah. Um,

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,879
Speaker 1: because it's it's arguably the most complete roster in football.

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: So that's probably the two places you could go. The

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01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: only the only knock that really doesn't really hold any

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01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,759
Speaker 1: water for the business. They've got a lot of new faces,

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01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, Settle Phillips, Lawson, de Quan Jones, um, who else,

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01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: the offensive line, Saffled Kesson Berry. They got a lot

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: of new faces. But the problem is the reason that

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: it really doesn't make any ripples with people or concerned

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01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: people is because that's what this team does every year.

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01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: They incorporate these guys that are that are quality veterans

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01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: really quickly into the group, and they thrive here in Buffalo.

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01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: They become the best version of themselves. Plus most of

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: these guys do have some NFL chops, all these new

1341
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: flat von Miller for instance. Um. But you put all

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: the new faces out there and all of a sudden,

1343
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: it looks like, wow, they got they got a lot

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01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: of new guys that they're counting on. And while that's

1345
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: the case this team has that has been the strength

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01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: of this team is their ability to do that year

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01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: in year out. So we've this is nothing new to

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01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 1: a Bill's roster or Bill's coaching staff. So you can

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01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: if you were going to raise eyebrows at anything about

1350
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 1: this roster, that might be it. But that is, you know,

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01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: that's job one here in Buffalo. They do that every

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: single year. Yeah, it's split in hairs, really, but this roster,

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01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: it's pretty complete. Let's move along, Steve to another edition

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01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: of NFL True False, brought to you by Yancey's Fancy

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01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: New York's Artisan Cheese. First up on the NFL True

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01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: False docket, tight end Rob Grinkowski will unretire in twenty

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: twenty three, so we're looking at next year with this

1358
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: particular question. I'm gonna say that is a false. I

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01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: can't see him not in twenty twenty three if he's not. Particularly,

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01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: if he doesn't unretired in twenty twenty two, he's not

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: going to come back a year later. Yeah, I think

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01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: that's a no. I think he's done. I think the

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: year changes this for me. Twenty twenty three makes me

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: say false. I believe that come mid season, if the

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01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: Bucks are in the hunt there in the NFC, and

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think they would not be. Their

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01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: division is down right now. Carolina is not going to

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01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: threaten them, neither is Atlanta and even New Orleans as

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01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: a new coach, and you know they've got some work

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01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: to do there. So the Bucks are probably going to

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01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: be a top their division halfway through the season. If

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01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: they're one of the top three seeds. Brady's lobbing a

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01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: call to grond can say, hey, finish out this last

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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: ride with me? What do you say? And I could

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01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 1: see him coming back this year next year, No, not

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: a chance. So I would say false for twenty twenty three. Okay,

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01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: number two on the NFL true false docket. Most defensive

1378
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: players would rather face Tom Brady than Peyton Manning. And

1379
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: they're we're talking about in their prime, right, Yes, wow,

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01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: neither one's a bargain. Tom Brady than Peyton Manning. Who

1381
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: would you rather play defense? I guess, yeah, I guess

1382
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: probably so. Uh, they're both, I mean they're both. They're

1383
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: both the same guy. Um Brady's probably got a better

1384
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,560
Speaker 1: arm even I think Brady's more of a more of

1385
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: an assassin, and I would say that Manning is more

1386
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 1: of the professor. Yeah, when it comes to playing the

1387
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Both they're highly intelligent. Yeah, yeah, they're both

1388
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna They're both probably gonna beat you, so pit take

1389
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: your pick. But I think Brady. You're right. I think

1390
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: Brady's gotta killer instinct that Peyton Manning is more of

1391
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: a surgical approach to everything. But yeah, man but Brady's

1392
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: just got a killer instinct. So I yeah, i'd say probably,

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01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: I would say, I guess I'm saying false. Then I

1394
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: think they'd rather face well, I think they'd rather face

1395
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: Manning than Brady, I'd say, is false. Yeah, all right, Um,

1396
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't particularly care for Brady. I respect both of

1397
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 1: their games. I just I don't know. I can't get

1398
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: past my utter hatred for Brady, so I am going

1399
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: to say false as well. And it's interesting because this

1400
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: stems from a comment that Bart Scott had made, who

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01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: had played against both Brady and Manning multiple times, and

1402
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: it was his opinion that Manning was much more difficult

1403
01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: to play against. Um He said Manning was such a

1404
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: master of the mental side of football that defensive players

1405
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: would lie awake at night with anxiety about what Manning

1406
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: might do, where Brady's success was more a function of

1407
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: the people around him. It's Scott's opinion that Tom Brady

1408
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: was more about Bill Belichick, the entire team, the execution

1409
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: than having a game plan. And I could see why

1410
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: he would have that opinion because there was a long

1411
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: stretch of time there. Manning didn't have much of a

1412
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: defense to help him in Indianapolis, so much so that

1413
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: there were parts there were times in games where Manning

1414
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: for the entire game, when the offense was on the field,

1415
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: would run the play clock down to two or one

1416
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: second to eat up as much time on a drive

1417
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: as possible so his defense wouldn't have to be out

1418
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: on the field defending. Right. Yeah, Peyton was a different guy,

1419
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: and I've said this before. Peyton covered a multitude of

1420
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: deficient seas on the teams that he played for. I'm

1421
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: a big I'm a big believer. It's my belief that

1422
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: Peyton is the guy that got the Denver Broncos to

1423
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl against the Seattle Seahawks and then got

1424
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: eaten alive after having one of the after having a quintessential,

1425
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: over the top best offensive year of any offense in

1426
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: the history of the National Football League. They got their

1427
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 1: heads handed to him because the touchdown passes right, the

1428
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 1: defense that they faced in that in that Super Bowl

1429
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: exposed everything that Peyton Manning had covered up for the

1430
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: entire season. Their offensive line was not athletic, couldn't pass

1431
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: protect all right. Our apologies to the listening audience, the

1432
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: viewing audience. We had a power outage here at one

1433
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: Bill's drive, as Steve was mid sentence and explaining, So

1434
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: you're welcome for not having to listen to my drimble

1435
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: until I finally wound it up. We are going to

1436
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: wind up with one final NFL true false to throw

1437
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 1: at you, and this one is Bears quarterback Justin Fields

1438
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: is the NFL's biggest offseason loser. And what this is

1439
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: getting at is this guy has been set up to

1440
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: fail more than any other quarterback in the NFL this offseason.

1441
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: What say you, Steve Tasker is Justin Fields still on

1442
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. He is, and he is the biggest loser. Wow,

1443
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: so you're answering true? It is true. It has been

1444
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: an off season of change for the Bears head coach

1445
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus. They got rid of every well, they downgraded

1446
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: at almost every position. Alan Robinson is gone. He's in

1447
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: LA with the Rams. The Bears are gonna be the

1448
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears again. So Darnell Mooney is his only receiver

1449
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: of note, the only proven player who is the one

1450
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: being highlighted on MSG right now. Mattiberflus is the new

1451
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: head coaches. Steve mentioned they have a new offensive coordinator

1452
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: who is supposed to take advantage with his scheme of

1453
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: Field's mobility. More in Luke Getsy. We'll see if that happens.

1454
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: But if you want to say there is not a

1455
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: lot for Justin Fields to work with, you would not

1456
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: be incorrect. Yeah, so I think there's a very good

1457
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: chance that he is the biggest offseason loser. I will

1458
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: say true, but I will say it with a bit

1459
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: of sympathy for one. Justin Field. Luke Getsy is the

1460
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. It's a new scheme that they're going to

1461
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: be trying. Is supposed to be very quarterback friendly, It's

1462
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: tailored to fields skill set. This all sounds like preseason

1463
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: new regime rhetoric to me. I'll believe it when I

1464
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 1: see it. Well, I mean, I think it could make

1465
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: some progress despite all of these changes. But as we've

1466
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,799
Speaker 1: seen here in Buffalo with young quarterbacks, you keep changing

1467
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: the coaches and the coordinators and the schemes, it's very

1468
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 1: hard for him to get better. Here's the acid test.

1469
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: If Mitch Trubisky left Chicago, spend a year in Buffalo,

1470
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: then goes to Pittsburgh and plays well for those Steelers,

1471
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: you'll know that Chicago is a quarterback graveyard. As their

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Speaker 1: former great quarterback said Jim McMahon said, it's where quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: go to die. Watch Mitch Trubisky play in Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 1: we'll see how much better he plays with a team

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Speaker 1: that knows what it's doing. That's not a bad barometer.

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Speaker 1: you that Steve and I will be going on a

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Speaker 1: brief hiatus. It is our time to get some R

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Speaker 1: and R, so we thank you for listening. We will

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Speaker 1: be back July sixth, and then we'll be off again

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Speaker 1: because you'll have the NHL Draft extended shows with Marty

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Speaker 1: and Duffer, so enjoy your Fourth of July holiday. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. Steve and I are out for about a week.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you a week from Wednesday. Take

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Speaker 1: care of everybody before