Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour in this Monday, Hope you had
Speaker 1: a great weekend. Carson Palmer set to join us coming
Speaker 1: up in about twenty minutes. Will chop up what happened yesterday?
Speaker 1: Big surprise last night? Or was it the Titans with
Speaker 1: another impressive win that's four in a row as they
Speaker 1: beat the Rams in Los Angeles. A couple of surprises,
Speaker 1: the Jags at home against Buffalo, and certainly what happened
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys against the Denver Broncos. Got a
Speaker 1: juicy trade rumor that involves Ben Simmons. Have that for you?
Speaker 1: Coming up? Where is Odell Beckham going to land? And
Speaker 1: keep this in mind that the Cleveland Browns did him
Speaker 1: a favor. They wiped away the last two years of
Speaker 1: his contract, and whoever picks him up, he will probably
Speaker 1: sign a long term contract or he's set to become
Speaker 1: a true free agent in March, but the waiver deadline
Speaker 1: will be Tuesday at four o'clock. Any given Sunday isn't
Speaker 1: just a movie where you get to see al Pacino
Speaker 1: give a lot Room's speech. It's also a time tested
Speaker 1: cliche that describes how unpredictable NFL football can be, and
Speaker 1: yesterday was a great reminder of that. Any given Sunday,
Speaker 1: the Broncos trade away Von Miller, they go to Dallas,
Speaker 1: and Dallas getting Dak Prescott back and Denver wins. It
Speaker 1: was supposed to be easy, right it was thirty to nothing.
Speaker 1: Bronchos ended up winning thirty to sixteen, but that wasn't
Speaker 1: the biggest upset spread wise. Jags I think went off
Speaker 1: at fifteen and a half point underdogs against the Bills,
Speaker 1: even though it was in Jacksonville. Jags somehow came away
Speaker 1: with a nine to sixth victory. Other divisional leaders lost
Speaker 1: on Sunday. The Raiders failed to the Giants, Bengals got
Speaker 1: blown out by the Browns. Titans beat the Rams without
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Cardinals beat the Niners without Kyler Murray. It's
Speaker 1: the cliche on any given Sunday. Also, that's why they
Speaker 1: play the games, and that's why we all watch, because
Speaker 1: anything can happen, and it certainly was a surprise yesterday.
Speaker 1: Let's see poll question for the final hour. McLevin okay
Speaker 1: our two as well was the best win of the weekend,
Speaker 1: and the Broncos actually won the pole. I still want
Speaker 1: to get back to that what was the worst win?
Speaker 1: Because you haven't weighed in on the Bearcats having another
Speaker 1: close game. Cincinnati Bearcats and also the fact that Alabama
Speaker 1: struggle are gonna tell us you. Do you think the
Speaker 1: committee are going to watch those games closely? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think that Cincinnati will be penalized. I don't think they
Speaker 1: want Cincinnati in there. I think they're doing their best
Speaker 1: to keep Cincinnati out. But Cincinnati, you have no room,
Speaker 1: no margin for error. You must win. You must win
Speaker 1: convincingly because if you know that they're going to hold
Speaker 1: this against you more than any other school, you got
Speaker 1: to win and be impressive when you win. You know,
Speaker 1: but give credit to Tulsa and Navy some of these
Speaker 1: teams that have played them a little tougher. Cincinnati is
Speaker 1: a good team, quality team. But if you're not going
Speaker 1: to put teams away that you're supposed to, the Committee
Speaker 1: is going to look at that differently. Somebody who works
Speaker 1: I don't want to say on the committee, but it's
Speaker 1: involved in this and said, hey, if Cincinnati had defeated
Speaker 1: Michigan at Cincinnati and Michigan State had you know, picked
Speaker 1: up a when you know, how, how would we view
Speaker 1: that if Cincinnati beat Michigan, Because Michigan State beats Michigan
Speaker 1: at home and we go, oh my god, Michigan State's
Speaker 1: top five. If Cincinnati had defeated Michigan, would we have
Speaker 1: reacted differently? And I think we probably would have. Um
Speaker 1: But I do think the committee is going out of
Speaker 1: its way to say, you know, hey, this is this
Speaker 1: is a good team, but not a top four team.
Speaker 1: And if if Cincinnati is going to help them with
Speaker 1: that decision, it's going to be really tough to overcome.
Speaker 1: But let's see what happens with some of these other teams.
Speaker 1: I mean, in State, you're in, now you're out. Ohio
Speaker 1: State struggled against Nebraska, LSU gave Alabama everything they could handle.
Speaker 1: So Georgia's seems to be the I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a great team. I think George's got a great defense.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a great team. Alabama. I think
Speaker 1: we're still all in on the Alabama is going to
Speaker 1: be there at the very end. Is Oklahoma going to
Speaker 1: go up? There's gonna be one or two teams that
Speaker 1: are gonna jockey for position. But I do think that
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is going to be on the outside looking in. Yeah, Po.
Speaker 1: It's funny with college football if a coach runs up
Speaker 1: to score. We gave their team a hard time, but
Speaker 1: you're rewarded for running up to score in college football.
Speaker 1: Let's say Cincinnati was up fifty to two against Tulsa
Speaker 1: this weekend. Keep going make it seventy to two, because
Speaker 1: that's what the committee is asking for. Well, I'm okay
Speaker 1: if you're up by forty eight, but if you're up
Speaker 1: by four, then there's a big difference. If you're up
Speaker 1: by forty eight, I'm convinced that you were a better
Speaker 1: team team. If you're up by four, then I'm not
Speaker 1: so convinced. All Right, what are we gonna go with?
Speaker 1: Final alarm? McLevin? Yeah, why don't we put that up?
Speaker 1: What was the most alarming loss? Because I forgot Ohio
Speaker 1: State was in there? Alarming loss, Alarming win, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: alarming win. Another question that we threw out earlier in
Speaker 1: the show, who's the favorite in the AFC? You said
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like they're a favorite. Is a favorite?
Speaker 1: Is aaron answer? If we put up Bill's Ravens, Titans, Browns,
Speaker 1: do you put the Browns on there. Do you put
Speaker 1: the Chiefs on there still? Because there Vegas odds are
Speaker 1: still pretty okay? Yeah yeah, But how can you say
Speaker 1: that team is a favorite in the AFC because of Mahomes?
Speaker 1: That's it. And I'm not saying like the Titans would
Speaker 1: be the best team in the AFC right now. It's
Speaker 1: it's not question they've They've those teams that they've defeated
Speaker 1: here in the last month. They're all playoff teams from
Speaker 1: a year ago, Bill's Chiefs, Colts, Rams. That's impressive. But
Speaker 1: I think without Derek Henry, you know that, maybe we're
Speaker 1: looking at that team and saying, do it. They have
Speaker 1: enough offense, but it was the defense that won the
Speaker 1: game last night for him against the Rams. Yeahmi club,
Speaker 1: I don't really get it with the Titans. Can you
Speaker 1: sort of explain it to me why you thought they
Speaker 1: were good coming this season because I don't know all
Speaker 1: the names you know on defense? Well, I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to have the one weapon that nobody else has,
Speaker 1: and that's Derrick Henry. In the playoffs, when you face
Speaker 1: a team like that that you're not used to facing
Speaker 1: that style, it's hard to kind of prepare for It's
Speaker 1: almost like when you face the military academies. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't see it, and then you see it and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, what just happened. I thought
Speaker 1: with eight, if you had Julio Jones, that's another weapon
Speaker 1: for Tannehill and it just makes them almost an explosive offense.
Speaker 1: And they averaged like thirty points a game the previous year,
Speaker 1: and I thought that they were going to build up
Speaker 1: the defense. The defense would be really good because it's
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, and I thought they would have enough offense.
Speaker 1: I didn't think the division was going to be that tough,
Speaker 1: and I thought that they could end up with eleven
Speaker 1: or twelve wins and then you go into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They have home field advantage, you got Derek hennering, and
Speaker 1: I thought they that's my dark horse to go to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And then they lose to the Jets
Speaker 1: the opening wing. You know, I love when you know,
Speaker 1: you get a message where somebody goes a nice dark horse,
Speaker 1: they should keep the lights out the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: and I go, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. As of right now,
Speaker 1: the Titans offense is six in the league. They're a
Speaker 1: fourth last year, so about the same. The defense went
Speaker 1: from twenty fourth ranked last year to fourteenth this year,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was enough where you don't want
Speaker 1: to face that team, that style the team in the
Speaker 1: playoffs because then it's just one and done. And that's
Speaker 1: why I thought that they were going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: sneaky good this year. Yeah, mclub. They do have two games,
Speaker 1: gets the Texans coming up. Maybe that'll lull them into
Speaker 1: to sleep. But then and they have Jacksonville, They're gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of wins. Here is the sneaky juicy
Speaker 1: trade rumor. This is courtesy of Sham Shams at the Athletics. Okay,
Speaker 1: he did not name the players, but the Boston media
Speaker 1: jumped and assumed this is the player. Oops, I just
Speaker 1: gave it away Ben Simmons for Jalen Brown. Why would
Speaker 1: Boston be interested in Benson? Well, that's that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any connection with anybody on
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, but I'm I'm you got Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1: You already had Marcus Smart come out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice if you know Tatum and Brown passed
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. Yeah, poem. When I heard this report,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this doesn't make sense because Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown is twenty five years old averaging twenty six points
Speaker 1: six rebounds. He seems like a at worst a very
Speaker 1: good second player on your team. I'm very high end
Speaker 1: second player. Jason Tatum's the star, I would guess, or
Speaker 1: is it a shared system? Yeah? But Ben Simmons is
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year and the All Star, so
Speaker 1: they're different players. Would I trade Ben Simmons for Jason Tatum? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or Jaylen Brown? If I'm the Sixers, yeah, I do that.
Speaker 1: If I'm the Celtics, I don't know. I'd have to
Speaker 1: have somebody give me a deep dive on why you
Speaker 1: wanted to do this. Yeah, I mclov so there. Coachmo
Speaker 1: Dooka was with the Sixers there last two years ago, Okay,
Speaker 1: and he's a long time Spurs assistant values defense. Is
Speaker 1: that possible? Sure, I guess. Yeah. See It's interesting that
Speaker 1: the Celtics had that one year where they had a
Speaker 1: really good run and then they brought in Kyrie and
Speaker 1: that didn't work, and then they brought in Kemba and
Speaker 1: that didn't work, and that's still that one constant is
Speaker 1: still Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown and man, that's not working. Well.
Speaker 1: I I saw where Joe l embiid came out and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's on the same page now, but that's
Speaker 1: a page a book that Ben Simmons is not in.
Speaker 1: But mbat they're playing well, they're shooting well, they're playing well,
Speaker 1: their records great, and you know you gotta eventually go,
Speaker 1: let's just move on. But if you could get Jaylen Brown, okay,
Speaker 1: young star. I don't know the role that he plays there,
Speaker 1: but yeah, if I could get Jaylen Brown for Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons right now, yeah I do that. Yeah. Yeah. Every
Speaker 1: time I hear about the Celtics, I still to remind
Speaker 1: myself that Brad Stevens at age forty five quick coaching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go up to the front office. Yeah, that's very weird. Still, yes, Ton,
Speaker 1: isn't it hard to believe that Stephens and the front
Speaker 1: office would sign off on something like that with the
Speaker 1: baggage that comes with Ben Simmons? And I don't know
Speaker 1: how the Boston Celtics would want to do with that guy. Well,
Speaker 1: they may look at it as you got Brown and Tatum,
Speaker 1: who are kind of similar players, and then maybe you
Speaker 1: get Ben Simmons that he provides something different. He's not
Speaker 1: a guy who has to have the ball the time.
Speaker 1: I would still use him as a point forward, Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't want him to be a point guard.
Speaker 1: He wants to be Magic Johnson and he's not magic
Speaker 1: at least developed, you know, a reputable set shot. You know,
Speaker 1: Ben doesn't have that, And I just don't want him
Speaker 1: to be put in that position where he's on the
Speaker 1: perimeter and he's got to be staring at a wide
Speaker 1: open three. I want him involved inside. I want him
Speaker 1: doing other things. Now, then you help him at the line,
Speaker 1: you know, get him up to seventy percent, and then
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you get that confidence back. Yeah, MC club.
Speaker 1: It kind of makes me think of Odell Beckham junior,
Speaker 1: and like they're these guys where it seems like a
Speaker 1: tough assignment to coach them. If you're a coach, do
Speaker 1: you want to bring these guys in? I don't want
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. I know he's talented, and you know there's
Speaker 1: a lot that goes with that star power and people
Speaker 1: come out to see him him and I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want. I don't want Odell Beckham. Now Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: wants him. You got to keep him happy. If he
Speaker 1: goes to the Raiders, Derek Carr's got to keep him happy.
Speaker 1: You go to the Saints, Sean Peyton, not Trevor Simeon
Speaker 1: has to keep him happy. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: bring somebody in that I gotta keep happy all the time.
Speaker 1: I want somebody who is going to come in and
Speaker 1: is going to play for the greater good of our team,
Speaker 1: not because of him, because he's gonna want to come
Speaker 1: in just like he did when he left the Giants
Speaker 1: that he wanted to prove that Giants shouldn't have given
Speaker 1: up on and then he is going to leave Cleveland
Speaker 1: and he wants to prove that Cleveland shouldn't have given
Speaker 1: up on him. I don't want. I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I want you don't don't try to prove that team wrong.
Speaker 1: Be in the moment here. I don't think he ever
Speaker 1: left the Giants mentally when he got traded. I think
Speaker 1: he was always there and he was angry, and Okay,
Speaker 1: he forced He's the reason why you know the Giants
Speaker 1: got rid of him turned on Eli and he's a
Speaker 1: great player. But you know, I give me a lesser
Speaker 1: player with less drama, I'll take that. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't need to babysit. Yeah, Todd, and then Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1: You look at Philly, He'll get killed in Boston too.
Speaker 1: He would go to another market of fans that have
Speaker 1: very very little patience with someone that may not be
Speaker 1: all in it as selfish one is all about them,
Speaker 1: and he needs to be at a team, probably a
Speaker 1: smaller market or something. Yeah, but every fan base cares
Speaker 1: about winning. But when I think of like city's like
Speaker 1: Philly and Boston, New York, they'll eat him up if
Speaker 1: he doesn't instantly show that he's all in, not selfish,
Speaker 1: like he's been Philly. Yeah, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben needs a break, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to see him play in meaningful games because of his
Speaker 1: mental issues or where he is his headspace, because he
Speaker 1: can't handle it right now. That's why if you could
Speaker 1: trade him, trade him to a team that's not going
Speaker 1: to come back and haunt you. Because the Celtics are
Speaker 1: gonna be playing in Philadelphia all the time. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to go back to Philadelphia. How do you think
Speaker 1: that's gonna go. If I'm phillying, I can get Jaylen Brown.
Speaker 1: Absolutely I'd sign up right now. But I once again
Speaker 1: I trust Chams that you know the information here. But
Speaker 1: unless Boston thought, we can't have two guys who play
Speaker 1: similarly in Jason Tatum and Jayn Brown. And if you
Speaker 1: watch those, I mean, those guys are gunners and playing
Speaker 1: and simple. They have no interest in passing the ball.
Speaker 1: They just That's why you'll get guys who are averaging
Speaker 1: in twenty four to twenty five a game. And you're
Speaker 1: going really in today's NBA, if you're not averaging at
Speaker 1: least twenty you're not any good. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of guys who are scoring a lot of points right
Speaker 1: now in the NBA. But man, there are some gunners. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the stats. It's early in the
Speaker 1: NBA season. Chicago. The Chicago Bulls have two guys averaging
Speaker 1: over six points a game, de Rosen and Levine. I mean, Demarda.
Speaker 1: Rosen's a nice player. He's averaging twenty six. If you
Speaker 1: look in history, you know, with guys who are averaging
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven I mean they're usually great scores.
Speaker 1: Dmarda Rosen is just a nice player and he doesn't
Speaker 1: shoot threes. Yeah, Paul, there's only two guys in the
Speaker 1: top ten of scoring who don't shoot threes, like almost
Speaker 1: almost none. Jimmy Butler in Miami. He's averaging twenty five
Speaker 1: points a game, only takes a three and a half
Speaker 1: per game. Yea de Rosen has taken two threes a game,
Speaker 1: which in this NBA is like basic nothing. All right,
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Speaker 1: What should we have been looking for with Jordan Love yesterday? Well,
Speaker 1: the Packers Organization has a massive decision to make, as
Speaker 1: we all know, at the end of this season, and
Speaker 1: that was the worst case scenario. I mean, all Jordan
Speaker 1: had to do was go out and complete twenty of
Speaker 1: thirty two passes for two hundred and fifty yards and
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Unfortunately, they were enepped on offense. They couldn't
Speaker 1: hardly move the ball. He looked like a rookie in
Speaker 1: his first opportunity to get on the field. He had
Speaker 1: no rhythm, no timing. There's a couple of balls that
Speaker 1: he threw to Davanta Adams that DeVante was the most
Speaker 1: confused guy on the field. It just it was worst
Speaker 1: case scenario. All he had to do. He didn't have
Speaker 1: to go out, you know and light it up like
Speaker 1: Aaron did in his first chance to play after Brett
Speaker 1: Farve left. You know, Aaron went out and put on
Speaker 1: a show. He didn't have to do that. He just
Speaker 1: needed to go out and move the ball and look
Speaker 1: somewhat successful. Unfortunately it went the opposite direction. They couldn't
Speaker 1: move the ball. The Packers have a massive decision to
Speaker 1: make at the end of this year. And now if
Speaker 1: Aaron comes back, you know, right before next week's game,
Speaker 1: against Seattle. It was so bad on offense. You can't
Speaker 1: if Aaron is available to play, he has to play
Speaker 1: to keep them in the playoff hunt for that number
Speaker 1: one seed in the NFC. If they have to go
Speaker 1: with Jordan again, it looks like they may may not
Speaker 1: be able to beat a Russell Wilson less Seahawk team.
Speaker 1: But also I was wondering that you knew they were
Speaker 1: gonna blitz if you're Matt Lafloor, and why not run
Speaker 1: the ball more? Or could could the play calling have
Speaker 1: been smarter for Jordan Love? You know, it's also on
Speaker 1: the floor. Lafleur was there when they made that first
Speaker 1: round pick for Jordan Love, so it was only two
Speaker 1: coach Lafour's benefit for Jordan to go out and have
Speaker 1: success and move the ball. So you know, I would
Speaker 1: have assumed that Matt Lafleur would have put Jordan in
Speaker 1: the most advantageous situation possible, give him as much success
Speaker 1: as he can, get him as comfortable as he can
Speaker 1: by running the football, by throwing more screens, getting him
Speaker 1: some easier passes. And when they did run the football,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones looked pretty good. He had a couple of
Speaker 1: nice big runs, but they just didn't stick to it.
Speaker 1: They kind of felt like Kansas City was going to
Speaker 1: hang thirty or forty points on him, so they needed
Speaker 1: to throw the ball. It was an odd game plan
Speaker 1: and really an unsuccessful day for the Packers organization. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think the bigger picture and nobody's going to
Speaker 1: focus on this Carson is Kansas City. Kansas City didn't
Speaker 1: look good against Green Bay at home without Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Kansas City hasn't looked good in a month. They're a
Speaker 1: team that we have given them a long leash. We
Speaker 1: keep saying they're gonna be fine, They're gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be fine. But now we're going on a
Speaker 1: month long of saying they're gonna be fine, They're gonna
Speaker 1: figure it out. They have not figured it out. There
Speaker 1: were opportunities to run the ball where they just needed
Speaker 1: to be a little more consistent with the running game,
Speaker 1: and they had some success early, but they just keep
Speaker 1: wanting that big splash play, that big long play to
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, that big long completion to Travis Kelsey. They're
Speaker 1: not getting him. Kelsey. You know, you don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. There were some dropped passes. He was jumping
Speaker 1: off sides left and right. He doesn't look like an
Speaker 1: established veteran. He doesn't look comfortable. Mahomes doesn't look comfortable.
Speaker 1: I think there's definitely reason to be concerned in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: But we're starting to see defenses almost look at a
Speaker 1: blueprint against Kansas City, and it felt like Denver's defense
Speaker 1: did the same thing against Dallas. We're gonna play deep,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you do everything underneath here, and we're
Speaker 1: going to try to put pressure on you. And it
Speaker 1: was very successful for Denver yesterday in one of the
Speaker 1: bigger surprises. How do you explain what happened to Dallas? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think those two fourth down calls on fourth and one,
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're the first one. McCarthy thinks, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to Ezekiel Elliott and he'll get
Speaker 1: one yard. He's always done it throughout his career. Sure enough,
Speaker 1: he gets stuffed. Denver's going the other way with the ball,
Speaker 1: and then McCarthy said, all right, I'm gonna put it
Speaker 1: in my other best player on my team's hands and
Speaker 1: Dax hands on fourth and one or fourth and two
Speaker 1: and he throws an air and pass. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was kind of one of those games where as a
Speaker 1: head coach, you're giving it to your two best players,
Speaker 1: putting it in their hands to find a way to
Speaker 1: get a first down. They weren't able to do it. Shockingly,
Speaker 1: nobody expected after that Von Miller trade and kind of
Speaker 1: the down couple of weeks that Denver's had over this
Speaker 1: last month, nobody thought that was going to happen. And
Speaker 1: Denver just flat out out played Dallas from play one
Speaker 1: to the last play of the game. How do you
Speaker 1: explain the Bills going to Jacksonville? Oh, just turnovers. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was tough to watch. There
Speaker 1: were some nice plays that Buffalo was making, but Josh
Speaker 1: was just getting careless with the ball. He had a
Speaker 1: couple of fumbles, he had a couple of interceptions. And
Speaker 1: when you've got a desperate, hungry team like they are
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, they're just searching for anything. They'll take whatever
Speaker 1: they can get. If you continuously give them the ball
Speaker 1: and turn the ball over, it just goes to show
Speaker 1: you you've got to protect the football because some of
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league can lose to one
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the league if they don't
Speaker 1: protect the football. And they didn't do that. But what's
Speaker 1: it like when you go out on the field against
Speaker 1: an inferior opponent and you have to keep telling yourself
Speaker 1: that we can't take them lightly. But players still, teams
Speaker 1: still to do take the opposition lately. Yeah, Buffalo got
Speaker 1: off the bus yesterday walking in the stadium knowing they
Speaker 1: had more talent on their bus than the other team did,
Speaker 1: and they played like it. They looked flat. They had
Speaker 1: some silly mistakes. Like I said, Josh was careless with
Speaker 1: the ball. And Jacksonville they're key marquee players. The Jacksonville's
Speaker 1: Josh Allen made plays. He had he had a sack,
Speaker 1: he had a fumble recovery, he had an interception. You
Speaker 1: saw Trevor Lawrence making some really nice plays. The five
Speaker 1: star players in Jacksonville. Jacksonville played like five star players.
Speaker 1: The elite players in Buffalo did not play like the
Speaker 1: five star elite players that they were. I think midway
Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter, Stefon Diggs had two or three catches.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just one of those days for Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They need to forget about that. They need to wash
Speaker 1: their hands of it. They need to learn from it
Speaker 1: and move on. Talking to Carson Palmer, former NFL VET
Speaker 1: joining US courtesy of Level Select CBD, Baker Mayfield spread
Speaker 1: the wealth. He had fourteen completions to eight different receivers.
Speaker 1: They ran the football, played some pretty good defense. Here
Speaker 1: Are they better without Odell Beckham with what they want
Speaker 1: to do offensively? I think they are. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you have a when you are a young quarterback like
Speaker 1: Baker is, and you have this almost an icon in
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, that's a weight on your shoulders that you
Speaker 1: have to carry. That is something in the back of
Speaker 1: your mind. As you're calling the play in the huddle
Speaker 1: and you're you're scanning the huddle and you see Odell's eyes,
Speaker 1: you naturally know, Okay, I gotta find way to get
Speaker 1: in the ball. I gotta keep him happy. I gotta
Speaker 1: keep feeding him even if the coverage doesn't dictate the
Speaker 1: ball going to him. I need to get the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands. But did you just at Cincinnati when
Speaker 1: you first got there, of keeping somebody happy all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had Terrell Owens in one side of
Speaker 1: the huddle and Chatochosinko in the other and I knew
Speaker 1: that both of those guys. I mean the receiver position,
Speaker 1: you can feel, you can feel non existent if the
Speaker 1: ball isn't in your hands, if you're just consistently running
Speaker 1: routes and turning and watching and seeing the ball go
Speaker 1: to other players, you can feel like you're never part
Speaker 1: of the game. And certain players like Odell, like Chatochosinko,
Speaker 1: I knew from a mindset position. I knew I needed
Speaker 1: to get the ball in Chad's hands. I knew TiO
Speaker 1: needed to touch the ball at some point in the
Speaker 1: first half, probably the first quarter. That's the same thing
Speaker 1: with Odell. O'Dell needs He's a rhythm player. Once he
Speaker 1: gets in a rhythm, he gets harder and harder to cover.
Speaker 1: But he needs the ball in his hands to get
Speaker 1: in that rhythm. And you just watching that game yesterday,
Speaker 1: you just felt like this massive la was off of
Speaker 1: the back of Baker Mayfield. I mean, he had so
Speaker 1: much mental energy over the last two years trying to
Speaker 1: think of ways to keep him involved in the game
Speaker 1: plan and get the ball in his hands, and you
Speaker 1: just saw him them let it loose. I mean they
Speaker 1: had big play after big play. I mean, people's had
Speaker 1: the seventy yard reception, Chub had a sixty or seventy
Speaker 1: yard run. You just kind of felt watching that game
Speaker 1: that the best team on the field, without question was
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. And I think going into that game, I
Speaker 1: was thinking the best team on that field that day
Speaker 1: was the Cincinnati Bengals, and they proved me wrong. I
Speaker 1: gotta put you in the Hall of Fame for just
Speaker 1: putting up with Chad Ocho Cinco and Terall Owens in
Speaker 1: the same huddle, like who was tougher? I loved it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was constant comedy in practice, and there
Speaker 1: was some highs and lows and ups and downs, but
Speaker 1: that's the game. But hearing those two guys tell you
Speaker 1: while you're calling a play that I'm open. I'm open.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, we're calling a running play. We'll get
Speaker 1: you on the next one. But yeah, I mean, those
Speaker 1: those two, those two mouths and those two trash talkers
Speaker 1: were a lot of fun to play with. But but
Speaker 1: how did you did it get to the point where
Speaker 1: it was disruptive to the team that they wanted the
Speaker 1: ball all every time? No, And the reason it wasn't
Speaker 1: was because those two guys practiced as hard as any
Speaker 1: other player on the field every single day. I mean,
Speaker 1: TiO was a workhorse. Chad would go from the number
Speaker 1: one offense practicing against the number two defense to when
Speaker 1: the number two offense would go in, he would sub
Speaker 1: himself in to get extra rest against the ones. So
Speaker 1: I mean, when you have when you have some guys
Speaker 1: that have those kind of egos and those kind of personalities,
Speaker 1: but they show up to work and they work their
Speaker 1: butt off every day in practice, you let all that
Speaker 1: other stuff go to the side because they set the
Speaker 1: standard in practice. When when your best players and your
Speaker 1: biggest egos work harder than everybody else, that's a good
Speaker 1: situation to be in. Would you want Odell Beckham? I
Speaker 1: would because he's the kind of guy you can throw
Speaker 1: a slant to and he can go sixty five yards. Now,
Speaker 1: he needs the right pieces around him. He needs the
Speaker 1: right play caller, the right head coach, the right receiver coach.
Speaker 1: I mean that there's a lot that goes into controlling
Speaker 1: and being able to be successful with that type of
Speaker 1: player on your team. But from an ability standpoint, there
Speaker 1: aren't many guys that can run the routes that he
Speaker 1: can and make the plays that he can, So I
Speaker 1: would take him. We had Ben Roethlisberger on last week.
Speaker 1: He sounded relaxed, like this is Everything's good. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much longer he's going to play, but feels
Speaker 1: like he's in a good spot there. Do you think, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Ben is still He had a
Speaker 1: good year last year, which people forget about, but is
Speaker 1: he still a formidable weapon in the NFL. Well, He's
Speaker 1: definitely lost some velocity on the ball. He's lost some
Speaker 1: pocket movement, he's lost some agility and ability to extend
Speaker 1: and play so which which is what his forte was.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was what he was so great at.
Speaker 1: But he's an absolute he's a winner. I mean he
Speaker 1: finds ways to win games. And he may not have
Speaker 1: it velocity wise, he may not have the deep ball
Speaker 1: that he used to have, but he's still good enough
Speaker 1: to win games for you. And they still are good
Speaker 1: enough on defense that that defense can keep their offense
Speaker 1: in games where it's close enough where you just give
Speaker 1: been one drive. He needs a field goal. He's down
Speaker 1: by two, he needs to touchdown. He's down by five,
Speaker 1: he's good enough to win a game at the end
Speaker 1: of the game, which at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's all you need in this league. But there's no doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the clock is ticking. His body
Speaker 1: is definitely looking like it's thirty eight years old. But
Speaker 1: he's still been Ben Roethlisberger. He's got super Bowl championships,
Speaker 1: he's been in big games, he's been in that moment.
Speaker 1: He's trying to win one last one on his way
Speaker 1: out the door. I just don't know if they're good
Speaker 1: enough offensively, if the weapons he has around him are
Speaker 1: good enough to get them one more super Bowl win.
Speaker 1: I don't know who to trust in the AFC right now,
Speaker 1: because I think the Titans have proven to be the
Speaker 1: best team considering who they've defeated. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if people would buy into them as the super Bowl
Speaker 1: favorite right now. So who would you say that's the
Speaker 1: team that the team to beat in the AFC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not without not without I'm blanking on his name, Derek
Speaker 1: Henry running back now, not without Derreck Henry. I mean
Speaker 1: that game was an anomaly last night. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were some weird things that happened special teams wise. Before
Speaker 1: you knew it, they were up twenty one three. You know,
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is a great option to have right now,
Speaker 1: but he is not Derrick Henry. That team is built
Speaker 1: upon Derreck Henry's shoulder, So they probably aren't the best.
Speaker 1: I still think even though that game was really really
Speaker 1: ugly in Jacksonville yesterday, I still think Buffalo is probably
Speaker 1: the favorite. They've got the best defense. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, that was a field goal kicking fest.
Speaker 1: They really they defense did not lose the game offensively.
Speaker 1: They couldn't hold on the ball. But you can see
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He is up and down. He when he
Speaker 1: is hot, it is red hot. When he's cold, he
Speaker 1: was he was stone cold yesterday, but they were still
Speaker 1: in the game. They still were just a field goal away.
Speaker 1: So the AFC is funky, no doubt, But I still
Speaker 1: think Buffalo is the team to beat in the FFC.
Speaker 1: Great to talk to you as always, Carson, will talk
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Speaker 1: to trust in the AFC. I like the Titans because
Speaker 1: the Titans have done what you want them to do.
Speaker 1: They've defeated four playoff teams from a year ago in
Speaker 1: consecutive weeks. But I think without Derrick Henry and I
Speaker 1: don't know what to expect down to those wide receivers.
Speaker 1: The defense is pretty good, but I just don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a great team in the AC right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul I was talking about the not the Bengals, but
Speaker 1: like Baltimore, but Justin Tucker is so different. If they're
Speaker 1: in a game, if it's a three point game either way,
Speaker 1: if they're tied, it feels like they only have to
Speaker 1: get to the forty yard line. I think it's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I've never felt like this about a kicker before, where
Speaker 1: I thought that he is a weapon, where it's a
Speaker 1: sure thing and all you have to do is get
Speaker 1: thirty yards on that last drive. Yeah, but you've got
Speaker 1: to be within three points. Yeah, it seems like there
Speaker 1: are every week, even no matter who they play, it
Speaker 1: seems like they're within three points every week. I just
Speaker 1: don't think they're formidable. I mean, Laar Jackson is fun, entertaining.
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker is a great weapon, hardball has won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I just I don't know if anybody is
Speaker 1: great in the AFC. There's some good teams or the
Speaker 1: ability to be good. But you know, Buffalo and we
Speaker 1: keep I don't know, we want we wanted to christen
Speaker 1: them the start of the season like this is Buffalo's year. Okay,
Speaker 1: I just thought that they think the reason why I
Speaker 1: didn't pick Buffalo, I just felt like they were expecting
Speaker 1: johnsh Allen to do more than he was capable of doing.
Speaker 1: And as it is right now, they don't have a
Speaker 1: running attack. But you know, defense played well. Yeah. See
Speaker 1: it's crazy how close. And most of the Ravens games
Speaker 1: are too, even the ones that they want, they want
Speaker 1: a couple big, but most of them are within one score. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what you want. You want a team that
Speaker 1: doesn't turn the ball over. They can produce a game
Speaker 1: winning drive. But man, that's it's dangerous to live and
Speaker 1: die by that. And that's why the Chiefs don't have
Speaker 1: a good defense. Baltimore at least has the ability to
Speaker 1: play good defense. You know, Kansas City keeps you in
Speaker 1: the game. That's because their defense isn't very good. Yeah, mclub.
Speaker 1: On the Josh Allens topic, I think Josh Allen's worst
Speaker 1: enemy is Josh Allen. Yeah, but Jacksonville's Josh Allen. See
Speaker 1: what I'm doing there. I was trying to make a
Speaker 1: joke and you did not. Yeah. I almost made it
Speaker 1: through the entire show without that corny line. I figured,
Speaker 1: it's been two hours and forty minutes. We couldn't let
Speaker 1: you get Josh Allen. Sack Josh Allen and it's never happened,
Speaker 1: and I got off Josh Allen. Yeah, it's too bad
Speaker 1: they didn't have a side bet the too. Josh Allen's
Speaker 1: whoever loses the game has to change his name to
Speaker 1: Joshua or initials he's for a week. Yeah, like Todd
Speaker 1: went to Todd with one D, I might give you
Speaker 1: your D back after that that Denver win for denverro
Speaker 1: It would make sense. Yeah. I don't even remember why
Speaker 1: it took away one of your d's. Do you remember
Speaker 1: I gave you a whole host of reasons for it?
Speaker 1: Do you remember Seaton? I think it might have been
Speaker 1: because because Todd plays no D. Was it a au
Speaker 1: AA reference? Perhaps scared Mario went to take him that shot,
Speaker 1: mister round. I wouldn't expect Todd to play any d Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's why. Maybe that wasn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was a booking issue. I think there
Speaker 1: was somebody who was supposed to come on and Todd's like,
Speaker 1: this time it's gonna work out, and didn't work out.
Speaker 1: It's possible that has happened. No, maybe maybe somebody back
Speaker 1: room guy has it. Matt with the audience will yeahma club,
Speaker 1: what's the Broncos playoff bet? Because it's interesting. Again, I
Speaker 1: was gonna cook a meal. If the Broncos don't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, then Paul has to be like nice to
Speaker 1: me for a week. As I've live. The Broncos don't
Speaker 1: make a week a week. I think it was one show,
Speaker 1: one show, yeah, yeah, that's not possible for Paul to
Speaker 1: do a week. All right. Let me take a break.
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Speaker 1: Mclovin just sent me the favorites for NFL Awards. Who
Speaker 1: decides who's on the list to find This is Vegas
Speaker 1: favorites from FanDuel Sports. Okay, all right, MVP is Josh Allen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess he's number one. Still, No, Tom Brady is
Speaker 1: the MVP. So far U Rookie of the Year Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: That one makes perfect sense. Yeah, Michael Parsons Defensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year, Offensive Player of the Year, Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, Miles Garrett comeback Player of
Speaker 1: the Year, Dak Prescott, Coach of the Year, Cliff Kingsbury. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with most of those, but Josh Allen would
Speaker 1: not be the MVP. I'd have Tom Brady vandalized. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen had a little bit ahead of Brady right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's weird. Yeah, I'd have Tom Brady as the MVP
Speaker 1: right now. First half of the season bottom results of
Speaker 1: the poll question. Oh wait a minute. Today, the NCAA
Speaker 1: set the stage for a dramatic restructuring of college sports
Speaker 1: that will give each of its three divisions the power
Speaker 1: to govern itself. Oh man, man, let's go. Let's see
Speaker 1: so Division one see a major college football three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty one schools eligible for the men's basketball tournament,
Speaker 1: the autonomy to reshape everything from how revenue is shared
Speaker 1: to how rules are made and enforced. I see if
Speaker 1: there's anything else in here. The question is going to
Speaker 1: be asked, what is the new role and responsibilities of
Speaker 1: the Board of Governance. That's still three divisions, but their
Speaker 1: priorities in what they would be doing would be just
Speaker 1: those very very high level issues of association as opposed
Speaker 1: to some of the things that they've been getting involved with.
Speaker 1: Now it doesn't mean anything to me. Yeah, Paul, you
Speaker 1: could summarize this as saying, the NCAA is yielding a
Speaker 1: lot of their powers and control over the teams and
Speaker 1: conferences enable to stay on the gravy train. The nca
Speaker 1: will still be a factor in scheduling and enforcements and
Speaker 1: business deals, but less so. But they're still in the mix,
Speaker 1: which means they still get paid. Yeah. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's it's inevitable that you have these power schools that
Speaker 1: kind of secede from the NCAA and saying that for
Speaker 1: years now you're going to self govern these you know,
Speaker 1: conference commissioners or you know, maybe gonna hand over the
Speaker 1: range to the SEC. But I think it's it seems
Speaker 1: to be inevitable that that's going to happen, all right,
Speaker 1: this day in sports history Poli nineteen forty two. Parker Hall,
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Cleveland Rams through seven interceptions in
Speaker 1: the game against the Green Bay Packers. Now that's not
Speaker 1: that note, you know, not that interesting. But why were
Speaker 1: they the Cleveland Rams? Is that doesn't seem like an
Speaker 1: animal that's indigenous to the Cleveland area. A lot of
Speaker 1: mountains and so forth. The Cleveland Rams were started by
Speaker 1: a businessman named Homer Marshman, and they were named after
Speaker 1: the Fordham Rams, which was a powerhouse college team at
Speaker 1: the time, and they thought they wanted the nice short
Speaker 1: name to peer in the newspaper headlines. That's why they
Speaker 1: were the Rams. Elgin Baylor Dan in nineteen fifty nine
Speaker 1: scores sixty four points, which was the NBA Association record
Speaker 1: at the time. Nineteen sixty through the Maple Leaf Gardens
Speaker 1: became the first NHL rena to install separate penalty box
Speaker 1: stores for each team. They used to have the penalty boxes.
Speaker 1: You'd enter through the same entrance and players used to
Speaker 1: get in fights all the time. I see we bring
Speaker 1: that one back. And then in nineteen seventy Tom Dempsey
Speaker 1: said it NFL record at the time when he kicked
Speaker 1: a sixty three yard field goal against Detroit Lions. That
Speaker 1: stood until nineteen ninety eight when Jason Elham of Denver
Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, nineteen to seventeen was the final that score.
Speaker 1: Patrick in Arizona, heye, Patrick, what's on your mind today? Day?
Speaker 1: Good morning, guys? How are you good? Good? Good? Good? Good?
Speaker 1: So I got a I got a better best dist
Speaker 1: than kind of worst of the weekend. I'll start with
Speaker 1: the worst. The worst was being in Arizona. We have
Speaker 1: sports gambling now and I went oh and ten this weekend,
Speaker 1: so it was quite ugly. Um yeah, it took a
Speaker 1: lot of bad beats. Wow. But one of so obviously
Speaker 1: I'm better is the Cardinals, who are literally one wrong
Speaker 1: turn by aj Green away from being nine and oh
Speaker 1: and still nobody's really talking about it. They've had no
Speaker 1: bad losses. They're doing what they're supposed to do, beating
Speaker 1: who they're supposed to beat. They were five and a
Speaker 1: half point dogs and went up there and showed the
Speaker 1: Niners how to play for But I think it's just
Speaker 1: history Patrick, that that's all. I mean, that's might not
Speaker 1: be fair, but it's just it's the history of the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. I mean, they did have the magical season
Speaker 1: when they went to the Super Bowl losing to the Steelers. Uh, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Dave is back, Dave in Oklahoma. Hi, Dave, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: trigger I notified I run the board before, but I
Speaker 1: definitely got to keep the bad uh worst. Oh No,
Speaker 1: Dave's got a bad Daddy's got a bad connection. No,
Speaker 1: twice in one day. I hung up on him seat
Speaker 1: and got to hang up about that. Yeah, d D
Speaker 1: in Florida, Good morning, d D. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I had a best and the worst, and uh maybe
Speaker 1: even a comment, But my best with Terry Bradshaw Um
Speaker 1: telling Aaron Rodgers you lie to everyone. I thought that
Speaker 1: was really strong. And the worst was the chiefs Um.
Speaker 1: They made that Packer's defense look like the eighty five
Speaker 1: Bears defense. In my comment, I really just wanted to
Speaker 1: show some appreciation. I've been listening to your show a
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