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Speaker 1: going to talk about the Hurricanes as well, that's coming

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Speaker 1: up at six thirty five. Now, John Harris in our

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Speaker 1: We want a chance to clinch the AFC South again

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Speaker 1: back to back and for the sixth time in nine years.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are at New England. What kind of chance?

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Speaker 1: Andrew lux retirement in August. So I think they're gonna

429
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Speaker 1: beat Carolina. Carolina's starting a rookie Will Grier. I think

430
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: they'll win that game. All right, Other games, let's go

431
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: over them with the general. The Cowboys are at the Eagles.

432
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Speaker 1: Who's gonna win the NFC East? Based on the way

433
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys played against the Rams, if they could do

434
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: half of that in Philadelphia, they'd win. I think they're

435
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: a better team. I'm going with the Cowboys. Okay, Chiefs

436
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: at the Bears Sunday Night, intriguing different styles, Bears at home.

437
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Can they help out the Texans and knock off the Chiefs?

438
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they're capable of it. Kansas City's playing

439
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: so well right now. I think Kansas City's gonna go

440
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: into the playoffs with like a six game winning streak.

441
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: They were six and four at one point. Maybe that

442
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: was after the Texans beat them, But I think they're

443
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Bears and then they'll win that last

444
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: game and get the third set. At twelve and four

445
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: is fighting for the playoffs. They're gonna be at the Jets.

446
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: The Jets, look, they've got some game, they can rise up,

447
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: they can do some things. But the Steelers have a

448
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: whole lot more going for them. As far as motivation goes,

449
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: What do you think is Levion Bell gonna players? He

450
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna be bowling? He would doesn't make that much of

451
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: a difference. Well, if he's going against his Steelers it,

452
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Speaker 1: I would think Levion Bell would want to touch the

453
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: balls runner receiver thirty times. Sam Darl's look real good.

454
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: They need more offensive weapons for him. But remember Greg

455
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: Williams is the defensive coordinator, and he starts blitzing from

456
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: when he gets out of bed in the morning. You

457
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: have a third string, undrafted rookie quarterback in Duck Hodges

458
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: who just had a really tough time with Buffalo's defense.

459
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: So Steelers should win that game. But I'll bet you

460
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: Greg Williams is gonna dial up blitzes that the Doug

461
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: never saw when he was in college. I talked to

462
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Speaker 1: somebody who toured the construction site of the Raiders Stadium

463
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: in Vegas, and it's gonna be magnificent. It's gonna be funny.

464
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be ready? I think it'll be ready.

465
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. It better be ready. Where they're gonna play.

466
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, go back to Oakland for another year.

467
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: We can have another final. Now, there's no way the Texans.

468
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: They played the AFC West this year. The Texans aren't

469
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: gonna finish like the Raiders. So we're not gonna get

470
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Speaker 1: to go to Vegas next year. What about a preseason game?

471
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: You never know, Oh that would be great. Can pull

472
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: some tings that would be awesome. I don't know if

473
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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. I'll tell you what his possibility for

474
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: next year would be. Though. It's a CBS game on

475
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in Detroit, and by my count I know there's

476
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: some flexing among the networks lately. Okay, so there are

477
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: other possibilities here, but only two possibilities as far as

478
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving without a flex possibility that the Texans could play

479
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Speaker 1: in Detroit. And I'm Thanksgiving again next year. Well, I

480
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: know were last for match Shop and Justin for set. Yeah,

481
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: and uh and and Dominican Sioux who kicks match shop

482
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Speaker 1: in the nether region. We're gonna see him this we

483
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: give in the footballs. Oh my gosh. So I love

484
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: going to Detroit, especially on Thanksgiving. With their one year

485
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: with the Oilers, they won, so I think they'd be great.

486
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: There'll be a dever. I don't want to talk about

487
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: that one. The Packers at the Vikings on Monday night.

488
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: This is a big one in the NFC and the Vikings.

489
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: Look that stadium. I love it for their cause I

490
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: hate going there, but the Packers and the Vikings, it's

491
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: a big one. I'm gonna go with the Vikings because

492
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: of Gary Kubiak, because I want them to win for

493
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak. But if the Packers win, that's that's just

494
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: gonna show people the Vikings are not where they need

495
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: to be. They should split that series. And you know,

496
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: the Packers are not doing anything great right, but they're

497
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: they're not great offense, Rodgers is not at a great season,

498
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: and yet they're tied for the best record in the NFL.

499
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: All right, John, and Matt la Floor is a legitimate

500
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: NFL Coach of the Year candidate. That's our guy, I

501
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: mean sort of our guy because he was here as

502
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: an offense of assistant role. All right, what do you

503
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: have going on on the chronicle? I'm riding for Friday,

504
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: Mark about how much it would benefit this defense and

505
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: this team if jj Watt could be like Superman and

506
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: just kick the kryptonied away, put on the cape and

507
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: come back, which there's a chance that he will. All Right, John,

508
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: safe travels. Thank you very much. Mark, see you in Tampa.

509
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: We'll see you there. All right. Coming up, Andre Johnson

510
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: on the program Texas Gridiron Legend from the Academy Sports

511
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: and Outdoors Texas Bowl. They're honoring the class. He's part

512
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: of it. Let's talk to him about that. You don't

513
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: want to miss this conversation coming out on Texans Radio.

514
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio and in studio for this program. I

515
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: am so happy because Andrey Johnson is here and he's

516
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Speaker 1: part of the Texas Gridiron Legend class for the Academy

517
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl. It's a tradition lone Star

518
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: States rich football legacy always celebrated by honoring eighty three

519
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: football icons who have made a lasting impact on the

520
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: game of football Texas at the high school, college, pro level.

521
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: So this has been going on since the Bowl's inception.

522
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: And Dan Pastorini, Robert Brazil, Andre Ware, my broadcast buddy,

523
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Brian Bosworth. So many guys have been honored. And now

524
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson in the class with the lost Dodds, Richmond Webb,

525
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: David Klingler, Jared Dillard, and the legendary high school coach

526
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Ray Seals who coached Vince Young at Madison. Andre, welcome,

527
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: congratulations on being a gridiron legend for the Academy Sports

528
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: and Outdoors Texas Bowl. And how do you feel about that?

529
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: What is your reaction to it all? It's great. I

530
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: think anytime you could be recognized for, you know, what

531
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: you did out on a field and actually going with

532
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: some great guys you know on the earl Campbell, it's

533
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: a grid on legend. You got Billy Simms, you got

534
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: me and Joe Green. I mean, you've got some real

535
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: legendary guys who are part of this group. Yeah, Richmond

536
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Webb is going in with me. So yeah, I actually

537
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: grew up watching you've been playing with the Dolphins. Yeah.

538
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: He was a great left tackle for the Dolphins. Yeah,

539
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: and he's a Texans ambassador also, right, right, So it's

540
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: it's it's cool, it's a it's a great experience. Um,

541
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: just taking it all in all right, So do the

542
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: players call you coach? That's what I want to know. Nah. None,

543
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: none of the players called me coach. They still call

544
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: me big Dog. What has it been like for you.

545
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: How has the experience been for you? It's been good. Um,

546
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: it's been great to be back around the game. Um.

547
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: It was a little tough at first, especially with the

548
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: training camp not doing it for a little while, right,

549
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: that was probably the toughest part. But you know, I

550
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: just really get to see how much it goes in

551
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: goes into the coaching part of it, right, you know,

552
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: being on this side now, um, you pretty much get

553
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: to see a lot of stuff that the coaches and

554
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: stuff do. Um, the time and stuff they have to

555
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: put in the game playing, and you know, just the

556
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: whole process. It's a very time consuming. You know, those

557
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: guys give give up a lot of their time, you know,

558
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: to try to help put the team in the best

559
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: position to be successful. Is it hard for you to

560
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: not want to be out there still, to be able

561
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: to put that away that part of your life, the

562
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: playing Partum, I don't have the urge to want to

563
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: get out there and play at all. Um. I think

564
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me is just when you see

565
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: things happen, you know. I guess just from experience, I

566
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: can tell a guy like you know, sometimes you can

567
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: see something happen and the guy may not recognize it,

568
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: and me being a form of player, I'm like, how

569
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: how did you not see that? You know, I did

570
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: not see that coming. But I think that's probably the

571
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: the biggest the biggest thing. But as far as like

572
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: want to get out there and play, nah, I enjoy

573
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: watching the guys play. Actually, so does that satisfy some

574
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: of the competitiveness in you, because clearly you're highly competitive,

575
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: but you're not playing football anymore yet you're part of

576
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: this thing. You have a role in this success. Yeah,

577
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: it's definitely. Uh. You know, at the end of the day,

578
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: you want the guys to go out and play and

579
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: do their best and win, you know, all the time.

580
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: So it can be frustrating when things are not going right,

581
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: when you let games get away and stuff like that

582
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: that you know you should win. But that's, like you said,

583
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: that's just the competitive nature and you um, but uh,

584
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's fun. It's been fun. It's been a

585
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: great experience. Uh, just having the guys come up to

586
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: you and you know, ask you about different things, questions,

587
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: even if it's not football related, it can be off

588
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: the field stuff. So it's just it's been a great experience.

589
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: What's it like for you? And this franchise has been

590
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: blessed because we had you and now we have DeAndre

591
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: Hopkins and for seventeen of the eighteen years we had

592
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: one of the very best wide receivers in the game

593
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: on the roster. I'd like to say you passed the

594
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: baton to DeAndre, But what do you think of his

595
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: career and how it's going right now? And you guys

596
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: are so different the way you play the game, but

597
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: you're highly productive, both of you. I think it's great. Uh.

598
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I watch him player, I see some of

599
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: me and him. I've been told that by a few people.

600
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: I see some of the physical nature to run after

601
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: the catch, taking hits and making the most of every

602
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to make extra yards. That kind of thing. Yeah,

603
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: that's the part of the game that you know, I see,

604
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, when he first got here, I always tell people,

605
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: like his biggest thing was just he already had hands.

606
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: Like I tell people all the time, he had the

607
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: best ball skills I have ever seen, you know, from

608
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: a receiver. When he first got here, I've never seen

609
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: a guy just one hand catches you know, that many passes,

610
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, just every day consistently. And you know, his

611
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: biggest thing was just in separation. And my biggest thing

612
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: to him was you know, in this league, you know,

613
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: creating separation is very small windows like it doesn't last long. Um,

614
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: it's very rare, you know in the NFL that you're

615
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: just going to see a guy just running wide open,

616
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: right you know. So uh, you know, I just with

617
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: show him different things which releases that the line you know,

618
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: being you know, because he's a he's considered a big receiver.

619
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I was, you know, bigger than he was.

620
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: You know, I was like two hundred and thirty pounds,

621
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: but um, just showing them how to grab guys and

622
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: use his body, you know, with different things like that.

623
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: So um, he kind of just took that and just

624
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: took it to the next level. So um, it's been

625
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: exciting just to watch him play. The rules are different. Now.

626
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself Adrey Johnson with us by the way,

627
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: do you find yourself sort of being get off my

628
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: long guy and saying, listen, I took some big hits

629
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: across the middle that you guys aren't gonna take now

630
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: because the rules don't allow for it. You know, sometimes

631
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I think just your competitive nature, like sometimes you're just

632
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: like because even when you look at the call um

633
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: in the Tennessee game last week, that scarlet guy, ye,

634
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: if you look like on the sideline, I was almost

635
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: ran on the field, Like what, like, what do you

636
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: call it? Like that's a double helmet the helmet hit,

637
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but that's the rules. It is what it is.

638
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's nothing we could really do about it.

639
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Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes when you look at you just

640
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: like man like, it's almost like the game is getting

641
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: cheated a little bit really because physical part of it. Yeah, well,

642
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: the guys used to tell you, hey, when I played

643
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: somebody who played in the eighties or whatever. It was

644
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: even rougher than when you play. Yeah, yeah, you always

645
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: hear those stories when you're around older guys, you know,

646
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: guys that have played in the league, and um, just

647
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: about the equipment they wore and things like that. Um,

648
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, they they do a great job now of

649
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: just you know, providing the equipment. You know, the helmets

650
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: and all that stuff is so different now, you know,

651
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: technology and stuff. So but I mean it's great for

652
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: the game. It's you know, it's more of a passing

653
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: league now too. So yeah, it makes the game more excited,

654
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: no question. Andre Johnson, gridiron legend joining us. All right,

655
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Speaker 1: So obviously you played for the University of Miami and

656
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: I always go to this area in recruiting for the Hurricanes.

657
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: When you played, It's not like everybody was from South Florida.

658
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: Get Ed Reid from Louisiana, Reggie Wayne from Louisiana, Bubba

659
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: Franks in your freshman year he was from Texas, Shocky, Oklahoma.

660
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: Guys from all over. So I like that part of

661
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: it that you played for a program that recruited from everywhere.

662
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: What's going on there now? In your opinion, what's going

663
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: to take to get them back there and did seeing

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Speaker 1: what Florida State do with Jamis Winston the ability to

665
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: rise up and win a national championship, not exactly yesterday,

666
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: but relatively recently, does that give you hope of the

667
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: Hurricanes football program in the future. Well, I think any

668
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: I think you always have hope. I just think that

669
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Speaker 1: biggest thing for me is when you I think when

670
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Speaker 1: you go into these kids home. Um, nowadays, I think

671
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: you have to kind of give the kids the history

672
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: of what Miami is all about. I don't think the

673
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: kids really understand the history of the school. Um, I

674
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: don't really think they understand the history of the program.

675
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing. And I think now

676
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: they they don't understand like when we were there, like

677
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: the grind, like we worked out a bus off man

678
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: like it was I mean, you experienced it like it

679
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: was it was. It was crazy, and just the talent

680
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: that we had, like everything was so competitive to I

681
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: don't care if we played Domino's Cards basketball in the offseason,

682
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: Like we were super competitive at everything we did. But

683
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: at the same time, during those times and doing those things,

684
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: we bunded as a team and that's what it made

685
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: us so great and that's why we have those relationships

686
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: right now to this day. You know, it became more

687
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: like a brotherhood, and it didn't matter whether you were

688
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: played back in the eighties, the nineties, or the two thousands.

689
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: Like we're all like, you know, if you went to

690
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: you you're part of that brotherhood, right and you know,

691
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: having Mike and all those guys come back, you know,

692
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: just to you know, to be around, and you know,

693
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: being in the locker room one day. I never forget

694
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: my freshman year things with my red shirt. Freshman year,

695
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: we were playing Florida State the year we beat them,

696
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: when they were ranked number one, and I remember just

697
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: leading up to that game, like how hype the week was,

698
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: and you know, and we're just sitting in the locker

699
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: room and damn, Michael Irvin just walks in the locker

700
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: room and like just get say, everybody kind of empted up,

701
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: you know. So it's just those things and those stories,

702
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: like I always tell people because people would ask me

703
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: about it, I'm like, if you wasn't there to experience it,

704
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: you would never understand it, right, you know. So you

705
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: know it's I think that's just the biggest thing like

706
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: getting those kids to understand the history and you know,

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00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: what the U is all about, like and that that's

708
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: what made me want to go to Miami, you know,

709
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: just growing up in Miami watching these games every weekend,

710
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, seeing just seeing the culture and you know,

711
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: the fun, you know, the excitement, Like I wanted to

712
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Speaker 1: be a part of that, right you know. So I

713
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Speaker 1: think that's just what we have to get back to. Yeah,

714
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: and maybe sometimes soon. Look I like Manny, Yeah, I

715
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: like Manny's got a lot of energy, but obviously they're

716
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: not getting the results on the field right now. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I just think too, like you know, sometimes

718
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: I think it got to a point to where guys

719
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: just wanted to wear the uniform or so we to

720
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: you and people just going back down, which I don't

721
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Speaker 1: think it was ever like that, you know. I think,

722
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Speaker 1: you know, we went out and just we would break

723
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Speaker 1: people's will, right you know, And that's that's what you

724
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: have to get back to. It went deeper than the

725
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: uniform that the external stuff, right, no question. All right,

726
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: So a couple more for you here. I know you

727
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: love Houston. You've said it for a long time. You're

728
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: gonna make Houston your home here you are. You gotta

729
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Rockets games too. What do you think of the Westbrook

730
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: hardened combo? It's kind of fun to watch see Russell

731
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Westbrook out there. Your thoughts on how the NBA season

732
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: is going. I like what I see. Um. I think

733
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Speaker 1: the NBA has become more competitive this year, just all around.

734
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Speaker 1: Ye I don't. I mean the West is. I think

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00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: it's still pretty duminant, but I think us the US

736
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: catching up. Um. I think having Kevin Durant healthy next

737
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: year well be big. Um. It's kind of weird though

738
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: to see the Knicks still struggling. Yeah, you know, because

739
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: you're so used to the Knicks being big in basketball.

740
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: But as far as the Rockets, I mean, I like

741
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: what I see. Um. You know, James is playing out

742
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: of his mind. I think he's averaging like thirty nine points, right,

743
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: It's not incredible what he's able to do. Yeah. I

744
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: sometimes when I'm at the games, like the guy just

745
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: shoots shots and You're like, they're not good shots some

746
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: of the time, but he's making them, So I guess

747
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: that that's all that matters. But uh, and then I

748
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: add Westbrook. I mean I always was Westbrook. Westbrook fan.

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Speaker 1: Just the physicalness he plays, Uh, the explosiveness, because I

750
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: like guys who would like to go to the racket,

751
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, finish when you played? What was your best shot?

752
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: What was your best way to score? I was going

753
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: to the basket. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't shoot no jump shot.

754
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: It's a pretty frightening thought, right there, go to the hoops.

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Speaker 1: All right, Odd, Ray, Hey, thanks a lot for joining us,

756
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: and congratulations on being a Gridiron legend. Andrey Johnson part

757
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: of the Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Gridiron Legend Class.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's turn our attention to Houston Methodist minutes tonight,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Alicia Roebus show of Houston Methodist. How's it going, doctor,

760
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Everything's going great. Getting ready for the holidays? All right?

761
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: The holidays are upon us, and that's what we're talking

762
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Speaker 1: about here with holiday weight watching, if you will. Let's

763
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: just start there, because a lot of people tend to gorge,

764
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: gouge whatever during the holidays. Look in the offices here,

765
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: the accounting department had this whole spread and you know,

766
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I just went through it like I was in ancient Rome.

767
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Speaker 1: So how do you how do you handle stuff like this? Doctor?

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Speaker 1: I imagine you deal with a lot of this kind

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Speaker 1: of thing around this time of year. We do, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I come from a good Jewish family, and so

771
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Speaker 1: my mother and my grandmother and everybody always on its

772
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: you gotta eat, you gotta eat, you gotta eat. And

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Speaker 1: you never want to disappoint your grandmother or your Jewish

774
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: bomb and not eat what they put in front of you.

775
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: So you have to learn when is a good time

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Speaker 1: to eat, and what is a good time to graze,

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Speaker 1: and when is a good time to just say no.

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Speaker 1: And we celebrate Hanamous in our house, so it's a

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00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: little bit of Christmas, a little bit of Honica, and

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Speaker 1: we just do this all season long. So it's really hard.

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Speaker 1: Learning how to substitute better food, even though they're not perfect,

782
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: is usually the key. And what we find is we

783
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, you need to load up on things like proteins.

784
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Speaker 1: So pick good turkey or good ham, you know, pick

785
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: one carbohydrate and try not to eat all the pasta

786
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: and the stuffing and the breads and the dessert and

787
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: the wine because all of that falls into carbohydrates. So

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Speaker 1: pick one good car that you really want eat lots

789
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Speaker 1: of stuffing, you know, but if it is try and

790
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: do more of the protein, do more turkey, do more ham,

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00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: and then pick one dessert. Would it be to start

792
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: getting to the gym now the new year's resolution? Start

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00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: it now? Because I got to think that so many

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00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: of these resolutions fail when you think, oh, in the

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Speaker 1: new year, I'll lose the way and I'll get to

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00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: the gym regularly. If you start a good habit, you

797
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: can start at any time, right absolutely, And that's something

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00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: that people always, you know, say in my office, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait and tell the new year. No, no,

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Speaker 1: don't wait. You just get started. And it doesn't have

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00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: to be perfect. So if it's starting an exercise program,

802
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: just getting started is the key. So if you have

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Speaker 1: a gym membership and you can do stuff at the gym,

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00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: then go to the gym. The other one thing that

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00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: we always talk about is that, you know, if you

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00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to count calories, and you don't necessarily

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00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: want to go on a diet, sometimes just logging your

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00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: food and in apps like my Fitness, power Fit or

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00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: any there's other ones that you can log your food daily.

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00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes when we log our food, we become more responsible

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people will lose between two and

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00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: five pounds a month just by logging their food and

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Speaker 1: they didn't change anything yet. That's great information. Doctor, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for the time and happy holidays. Absolutely have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful new year, Doctor Alicia Roba Show of Houston

816
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Methodist in the Woodlands. For information on everything Houston Methodist

817
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: task to offer, log on to Houston Methodist dot org,

818
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans. Houston Methodist

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Speaker 1: Leading medicine. Coming up, Let's get John Harris in here,

820
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: talk about the matchup this weekend, talk about all the

821
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: aspects of it and play more likely to happen. An

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Speaker 1: extra hour of Texans All Access next on Texans Radio.

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00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh guess walk, there's no Thursday Night Football. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: there is, because we've got it for you here from

825
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio studio inside NRG Stadium, Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: This time of year, we go to two hours on

827
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Speaker 1: a Thursday night. Why isn't there Thursday Night football? You ask, Well,

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Speaker 1: because there's a triple header tonight in the NFL. No,

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00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: there's not a triple header tonight. It's Saturday. Okay, I misspoke,

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00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: It's Saturday. Boy, that would be cool to have a

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Speaker 1: triple header and one night. John Harris joins US now

832
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: in studio, triple header and one night. We already have

833
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: a double header to start mind to night football. We're

834
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: not gonna do the triple header thing, but we will

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Speaker 1: out Saturday starting get doing with the Texans on the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: Saturday might be the best football they I've seen in

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Speaker 1: quite some time. Oh, because you've got NFL games. You've

838
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: got the Texans playing for the AFC South, so everybody's

839
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: gonna want to watch that, right. You've got Bill's Patriots

840
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: right after that, Yes, you're playing four share of the

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00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: AFC East. And then you've got the Niners and Rams

842
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, that's pretty good. You've got those three

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00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: games and Texas high school football championships. You've got the

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Speaker 1: five A six A championships. You've also got the start

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Speaker 1: of bowl season. What You've got like five or six

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00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: bowls going on that day, including how about this? The

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00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: bull makers, they sometimes I don't honest say they don't

848
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: have a sense of humor, but I think I think

849
00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: sometimes they they they try and make the arrangements fit.

850
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: They've got Boise State taking on Washington in the Las

851
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: Vegas Bowl. Oh and the head coach at Washington is

852
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: after this game no longer going to be Chris Peterson

853
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: because he has retired. So in his last game at Washington,

854
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: he's facing his old team, Boise States. You've got that,

855
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: You've got the chips. Yeah, they're gonna They've got a

856
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: bowl game against San Diego State. You got Liberty against

857
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern SMUs taken on Florida Atlantic. That could be

858
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: a fun game. Florida National against Arkansas State Boys, stay,

859
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: Washington Applatza State uabs. How many is at two? For

860
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: six bowl games on Saturday, that's incredible. Three NFL games,

861
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: plus you've got the three largest classifications in Texas. That

862
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: state's our states state championship games all on one day.

863
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: That's a big day, Johnny, I didn't realize that there

864
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: were six bowl games. Six bowl games. That's incredible. Yeah,

865
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: there's actually two tomorrow night. It used to be New

866
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: Mexico Bowl, and that's all you're gonna get the first

867
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: day or maybe two bowls and now they're just loading

868
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: it up. Let's get these suckers in because you don't

869
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: want to wait all of a sudden, the windows get

870
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: really crowded, and ESPN controls just about everything. Yeah, with

871
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: the Chippawas, I'm very glad that my Chippawas play just

872
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: two weeks after they played in the Mid American Conference

873
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: championship game, you know when I was there, Yeah, back

874
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: in there. We're gonna do a story time a little

875
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: bit later on. But here the early early glimpse. When

876
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: the Chippawas won the MAC in ninety four, I was

877
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: a baby, even though I was broadcasting the games. In

878
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: ninety four they won the MAC, we went to the

879
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Bowl. Back then, only one Mid American Conference

880
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: team went to a bowl. You had to win the

881
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: league and you go to a bowl. And we're in

882
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: the Vegas Bowl against UNLV, and we beat them earlier

883
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: in the season in Mount Pleasant. We boat raced them,

884
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean just ran up and down the field on him.

885
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: But by the time we got to the Bowl, we

886
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: had a five week break between the final game because

887
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: he used to end a little earlier back then, especially

888
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: in the MAC. And then the bowl game and no

889
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: indoor facility, and it was snowing. You couldn't really practice

890
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: the way you wanted, so it was like an offseason,

891
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: and UNLV they had a two and a half week break,

892
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: so they were just flying up and down the field,

893
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: and the Chipwa's legs were stuck in snow basically in Vegas.

894
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: And it was a blowout loss in that one. So

895
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad for the Chips that they only have a

896
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: two week break and maybe they can do something against

897
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: the Aztecs. So sometime during the bye week, I had

898
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: heard someone mentioned eighty four Orange Bowl. I don't know why.

899
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: The eighty four Orange Bowl was the famous thirty one

900
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: thirty game, the two point conversion where the Canes knock

901
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: it down at the end. They beat Nebraska, right, And

902
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: as I'm watching that game, it's on YouTube. It's amazing,

903
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: which you can find on YouTube. One of the announcers,

904
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: I think it was Don Cricky says Don Cricky and

905
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: Bob Trumping. Yes, they did the game. They did the game.

906
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: And Krickey mentions that Nebraska has been off for seven weeks.

907
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they've been off for seven weeks because

908
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: that was the that was that was Big eight football.

909
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: So the last game that they had played, I believe

910
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: was right there was the week four Thanksgiving. Then they

911
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: were off that entire time. They were off for seven weeks.

912
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: So you're playing January first, eighty four is the eighty

913
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: three season. That was a great Nebraska team offour us.

914
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh seven weeks. That's incredible. And I think that the

915
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: Canes weren't off for that long, but they were off

916
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: for a significant period as well. But that's the way

917
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: it used to be. He used to have that entire

918
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: time off. Now you look up, it's like, whoa, I think,

919
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: like you said, the Chips played in the championship game,

920
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: so that was the week of the eighth I believe,

921
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: and then they're playing on the twenty first. Yeah, yeah,

922
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: you really did not buy you really you had to

923
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: buy week basically, and then you get yourself right. I

924
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: if I'm a coach, I kind of like that. But

925
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: what some teams down south will do if they get

926
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: in that situation is they'll have spring They'll move spring

927
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: football up. They'll move it up to like late late February,

928
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and try and get it in before spring

929
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: break and kind of just get it all done by

930
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: the end of spring break and then let conditioning go

931
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: from the end of March, because that's colleges are the

932
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: kids are staying all in their campuses during the summer. Yeah,

933
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: so they just take whatever they're done conditioning it just

934
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: all the way through the summer. Right. You can't if

935
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: you're a college football player. It's not like you can

936
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: go backpacking through Europe during the summer. I mean you

937
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: are on campus. They're doing seven on seven, They're doing

938
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. They want to keep their eye

939
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: on you. You want to knock out some classes too,

940
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: so you don't have such a heavy academic load during

941
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: the year. That's what I did before my senior year.

942
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't even playing a sport and I've got a

943
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: whole semester in the summertime before my senior year, graduated

944
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: a half year early. Why not. I mean, if they

945
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: can do that with these kids, great. But we had

946
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson on earlier and talking about college football, and

947
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, day's gone by with the Miami Hurricanes these days,

948
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: and I think back then those guys stayed around a lot,

949
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of good programs were operating that way already.

950
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: But now it's like that more than ever. So it

951
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: is bowl season, and heyit the Academy Sports An ounds

952
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: this bowl next week. Johnny coming up. It's gonna be big.

953
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: It's a week from tomorrow night at NRG Stadium, and

954
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: I'll have some questions about that and more likely to

955
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: happen now. So it's Texans and Tampa Bay, and I

956
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: just think that there's so many nuances to this one.

957
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston Deshaun Watson, two old acc old acc quarterbacks

958
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: going at it. Ye bear with me here, but they've

959
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: both won national championships at the college level, trying to

960
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: do it at the pro level. And I'm happy for

961
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: Winston that he's pulling it together in his career, although

962
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: I want the happiness to not continue on Saturday for him.

963
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: I like that he's been on this run for his sake,

964
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: and I like Bruce Arians as well. I once took

965
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: a photo with him for my kid because we watched

966
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: a football life about him, and my kid felt this

967
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: sort of connection with him. And I think it's cool

968
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: stuff that he's doing well in Tampa. But again, the

969
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: wellness needs to stop Saturday at noon. I don't think

970
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: this is any easy pickings this. It's funny because a

971
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: couple of media members I heard in the last few

972
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: days were saying, hey, watch out Tampa could be tough, really,

973
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: Oh you really think you think so? Just because they've

974
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: won four in a row. They're seven and seven, and

975
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: they've been throwing for a historic amount of yardage and

976
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: they've got killers everywhere. I know they've got the two

977
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: receivers out, but still I don't think Winston cares who's

978
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: catching the ball. He's gonna chuck it and they're gonna

979
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: make plays. Yeah, he's It's interesting because he you can

980
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: watch you watch him, and you can just tell he's

981
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: not taking checkdowns. He is not taking check that he

982
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: does not want to take it. He's doing it grudgingly. Yeah, Like,

983
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: but he wants to throw the ball down the field.

984
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: I I know arians Liz like that. But there are

985
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: times where now the Lions gave him anything he wanted

986
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: down the field, right, I mean anything. Boy, that's a

987
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: whole other deal, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, that's a different one.

988
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: But I was trying to remember. It was like they

989
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: they Jamis and Deshaun crossed over for one year at

990
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: Clemson and Florida State, right, But they didn't play against

991
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: each other because Jamis was suspended for that night. Oh,

992
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: he had gotten in trouble for doing something dumb, which

993
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: was kind of Jamis's want back in college, so he

994
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: was not. He was suspended for that game and they

995
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: played Sean McGuire and Deshaun had had a really nice

996
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: night and I remember watching he took over that a

997
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: guy been named a Cole Stout, Cliff stout son, and

998
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: he went like, two drive didn't do a whole lot.

999
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: You mean Cliff Stout, former Birmingham Stallion's quarterback. Yeah, they

1000
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: put the Shawn in the game, and I'll never forget

1001
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: Deshaan made a throw down the seam over a linebacker

1002
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: in front of his safety and I just remember watching

1003
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: the game going, WHOA, who's this kid? I mean, like

1004
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: what what did I just see? And he ended up

1005
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: I think his numbers were pretty good that night, but

1006
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: four State ended up winning the football game got named

1007
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: Sean McGuire playing quarterback, so he was I mean, DeShawn

1008
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: was outstanding. Shaan was nineteen to twenty eight for two

1009
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: sixty six and he also ran for thirty yards and

1010
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So that was as a true freshman. And

1011
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: I remember after watching that game that was also a

1012
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: game where he was facing facing Jalen Ramsey Ramsey was,

1013
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: but he was playing safety and he it was That

1014
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: was a fun I want to go back and look

1015
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: at that all that the rosters from both teams, because

1016
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: they guarantee you there were some NFL dudes on the

1017
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: field that night. Two sixty six Does that get it

1018
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: done on Saturday? If it's the right kind of two

1019
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 1: sixty six, it does. I kind of think it does. Well.

1020
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, because the one thing I worry about

1021
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: is a lot of times when we storing for two

1022
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: sixty six, they're also running for one twenty. Because last

1023
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: week he threw for what two forty something, forty eight

1024
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: to forty nine something like that, but they ran for

1025
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: one hundred Carlos, That is what I'm talking about. Yeah,

1026
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: So I think the more yards you throw for if

1027
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: you're a Texan, it could be not worse because with

1028
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay a lot of teams have been in shootouts.

1029
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I think the problem is running the ball.

1030
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: He Deshan might throw for three hundred this week, and

1031
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem with it because my gut

1032
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: tells me that somewhere between fifty to seventy five yards

1033
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: of that is just gonna be kind of some extension

1034
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 1: of the run game, quick screens, you know, swing route

1035
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: just to get away from the big dudes in the middle, right,

1036
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: because I do think they're gonna have to come up

1037
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: with something a little different to avoid Vida Vy and

1038
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: dom Kinsue on the inside. I don't think you're gonna

1039
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: be able to just you know, here we come pound

1040
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: at you. I do think there's some things you can do.

1041
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: You're still gonna have to do the traditional here's the ball,

1042
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: running back, run with it sort of stuff. But I

1043
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: do think they're gonna have to change up some of

1044
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: the things to be able to quote unquote run it.

1045
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: But I still think you can run the ball through

1046
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: the old kind of West Coast offense style. Okay, this

1047
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: is a little swinger out to Roger Craig. That's just

1048
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: a that's a run. That's that's a just toss play.

1049
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, you can throw the ball out to Duke

1050
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: on a little swing route. That's just a toss play

1051
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: out to do like that. But instead of running inside

1052
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: and just keep hammering your head against those two huge,

1053
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: strong dudes inside, no, not forget that. Let's get to

1054
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: the outside. Let's run it that way. So I think

1055
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: two sixty six could may not get it done. I

1056
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: think he could be in the three hundred range. But

1057
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: I think of that fifty to seventy five of that's

1058
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: gonna be some of some sort of combination of throws

1059
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: that are actually nothing but extended runs. Okay, I was

1060
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: gonna bring up another subject, but I wanted to get

1061
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: to this because I wasn't gonna bring it up with

1062
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: Andrey Johnson. He was not a finalist for best wide

1063
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 1: Out on the Top one hundred team, but Megatron was. Thoughts,

1064
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: I just as I ask you, I'm gonna answer the

1065
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: question myself here. First, I just look, Megatron was a

1066
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: tremendous receiver. Yeah, and I get the love for Megatron.

1067
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: I do. However, I think people have to look closely here,

1068
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: and some of this is just reputation, beauty contest, Odell

1069
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: Beckham type stuff, if you will, not to take anything

1070
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: away from Megatron, but come on, Andre Johnson deserves to

1071
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: be a finalist on that list. If Megatron, well, if

1072
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: Megatron is, yeah, that's the question. It should Megatron have

1073
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: been on there? I mean there was a period of time,

1074
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: what four or five years where to me, there was

1075
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: no question it was Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald.

1076
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: There was a period of dominance, and I mean those

1077
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: three guys were the guys, and I think there were

1078
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: probably a few things that there are probably a few

1079
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: reasons for that. I mean, I'mbery's playing for Detroit and

1080
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: that's a long time NFL franchise, you know, Drey comes

1081
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: to Houston and it's a new franchise, and so I

1082
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: don't I don't think as many people. And now, look,

1083
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: the Lions were not very good at that time, but

1084
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: I think they were an established NFL franchise from way back.

1085
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: So maybe there's some of that. The other aspect, and

1086
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: this is kind of the same for all three of them. Really,

1087
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: none of the three really said a whole lot about themselves.

1088
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: They were kind of the anti receivers. Yeah, they were

1089
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of the anti divas. You know, those three weren't

1090
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: tweeting about you know, go get my Bentley, you know

1091
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: from you know this, you know, go get my Bailey

1092
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: cops and bring it to my address or whatever it

1093
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: is that an Tonio Brown does. But they were not boisterous.

1094
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: They were not the Terrell Owens you type. They weren't

1095
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: the diva receiver that we've kind of, you know, grown

1096
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: to love it. No, And it's funny because Hop is

1097
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: not that way either. But if Calvin Johnson were gonna

1098
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: be on there, and then I think Andre should have

1099
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: absolutely been on there, and then you would add all three.

1100
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: You would ad fits, you would have had Calvin, and

1101
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: you would have had Dre on there. But I think

1102
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: it's a shame that he's not. And I hope that

1103
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't foreshadow anything coming up the next couple of

1104
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: years when he's up for the Hall of Fame. That's

1105
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about. That starts to worry me because

1106
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys in that blue ribbon panel

1107
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 1: end up being guys that are going to be voted

1108
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. But hopefully the General will

1109
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: put in some good words for Andre and people will

1110
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: listen and take the heart what he actually meant to

1111
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: this franchise, what he meant to the NFL, what he

1112
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: meant to just playing receiver. But he was so steady,

1113
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: he was so steady and everything he did. You look

1114
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: up at seven for one and tenant and I would say,

1115
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: touchdown as many of those and that's gonna be the

1116
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: one thing that holds him back. He didn't have the

1117
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns that other other receivers do. And obviously Larry Fitzgerald

1118
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: is strung together even more years he can continues to accumulate,

1119
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: so his numbers are off the charts. But Dre just

1120
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: didn't have the touchdowns. That's gonna and I hope that

1121
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: does all him back run. But I think I think

1122
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a group that says, no, no, no, no, no. Look,

1123
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, look at his touchdowns. He didn't score.

1124
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's that's that's the wrong tack to take.

1125
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you that's coming. I hate to put

1126
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: it this way, but it wasn't his fault. I know

1127
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't. And that's where John That's where

1128
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: John's push comes in to say, look, this was a dominant,

1129
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: dominant guy that and if he then obviously you saw

1130
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: the Texans back then, Yes, Dominic Davis, Dominic Williams was

1131
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: a good running back. He's a good running back. But

1132
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: every single team set out to stop Andre Johnson and

1133
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: he still beat downs, still got beat him. Coming out

1134
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: more likely to happen. We have questions about Jamis Winston

1135
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: about other NFL teams, about coaching in college football. John

1136
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Harris stays with us on Texans Radio. We are your

1137
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football Preemption Tonight, an extra hour of Texans

1138
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: All Access here from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Mark

1139
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: Vandamer and John Harris with you. By the way, You

1140
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: and I will talk more tomorrow night, But I haven't

1141
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to you about Tom Coughlin

1142
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: getting shown the door in Jacksonville, which I think was

1143
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: very interesting that Sean Khan went for that high. You

1144
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: would think maybe h Maron first, maybe calledwell, and then

1145
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: Coughlin later, but clearly just I don't want to say

1146
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: cut off the head. That sounds so awful, but that's

1147
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: basically what they did. They got the head of the

1148
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: organization out and they're gonna rebuild. So the weird thing

1149
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: not weird, but the dynamic now is if you're a

1150
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: moron and calledwell, you're sitting there thinking, okay, I know

1151
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: what's coming here. Well, does it become a two game

1152
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: audition or I don't. I don't think it does. But

1153
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: Doug Morones had those before in Jacksonville. Remember in twenty

1154
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: sixteen when he got named the coach when Gus Bradley

1155
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: was We played them Week fifteen, beat them, had a

1156
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: comeback win. Gus Bradley was fired before they even got

1157
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: on the plane. Doug is named interim head coach. They

1158
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: played Tennessee in Indie, and they played Tennessee in that

1159
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: week sixteen games, all watching it at home, and they

1160
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: dominated Tennessee and look good doing it. Then they went

1161
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis, lost the last play of the game, and

1162
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Shot said, yeah, I'm gonna go with Doug Marrone as

1163
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: my permanent head coach. So I don't know it. It'll

1164
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what goes on, because I think

1165
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: if Shot decides I'm sticking with David Caldwell and Doug Morone,

1166
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: then he's basically saying Tom Coughlin was the problem the

1167
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: last couple of years. He's not gonna stick with him.

1168
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine. I don't think he can. I

1169
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: don't think he can. I mean, I think it's probably

1170
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: a good opportunity. This is probably the right time for

1171
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: them to scrub it and say, Okay, let's go back

1172
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: to the drawing board. Let's set this thing up. How

1173
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna set it up, whether it's with you know,

1174
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: they had they had kind of an odd set up

1175
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: with Caldwell and Coughlin and who was picking the players

1176
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: and who was and it was pretty much Coughlin. But

1177
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: when the NFL PA case came to, you know, it

1178
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: came to like publicly. I'm sure NFL circles it was

1179
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: already there, but it came to like publicly that the

1180
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: NFL PAM had won its case against the Jaguars, and

1181
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: then you start hearing some of the things that came out.

1182
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: You know what struck me Mark is the old it's

1183
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: my way or the highway kind of thinking by execs

1184
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: and coaches is no longer. If it ever was effective,

1185
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: it's no longer effective. And not only is it not

1186
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: effective anymore, I don't think you're gonna see it in coaching,

1187
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: especially in the NFL going forward. You have to work

1188
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: with the players a little bit more than you ever have.

1189
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: I just think with everything that's that's involved in the

1190
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL being the showcase, it is the

1191
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: money that players are making, and everything that's involved with

1192
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: the NFL now as opposed to you know, ten, fifteen,

1193
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, it has just continued to grow over

1194
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: that time. But I just I think you're getting to

1195
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: a point where kind of the the old school militaristic,

1196
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, this is how football supposed to be, kind

1197
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: of what he hates sort of style. That's I don't

1198
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: think that works anymore. I think the coaches and organizations

1199
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: that are gonna get it right going forward are gonna

1200
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: be ones that that take player involvement, that take input

1201
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: from the players, incorporate that into something that is a

1202
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: little bit more seamless, yes, or gonna be there's gotta

1203
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: be ordering, you know, whether they're you know, whatever, your

1204
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: hierarchy is going to be a coach, but it's gonna

1205
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: be somebody that has to listen. It cannot be my

1206
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 1: way of the highway. And I think Seth put it best.

1207
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: Seth Payne was talking about this this morning and he said,

1208
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: when cough Lynn went back to the Jaguars, it's almost

1209
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: as if he doubled down with Jacksonville from his first

1210
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: stint there, because when I was there, when he was

1211
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville the first time, and he was not a

1212
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: very likable guy, and that was amongst the players in

1213
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: the city and everybody, because he was so draw a

1214
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: line and this is how you do it. But then

1215
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: they won in the second year and everybody kind of

1216
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, maybe it works, but you know,

1217
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: the whole fifteen minutes early or your late sort of thing.

1218
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: It just rubbed players the wrong way. And they and

1219
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: the players would come over to the Piscoble where I

1220
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: was because we had a nice track, So they come

1221
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: over and work out at Episcopal and they never said

1222
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: anything about it, but I would ask him about different things,

1223
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: and I could just tell by the way they reacted

1224
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: that I was kind of like, yeah, it's it can

1225
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: get a little bit grading on the nerves. So when

1226
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: he went back to Jacksonville after a stint in New York,

1227
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: Seth Seth said this, he was like, you know, you

1228
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: would think he learned from m kind of softening a

1229
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: little bit in New York that he would take that

1230
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. It kind of softened a little bit in Jacksonville,

1231
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: and that would be a good fit. But really he

1232
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: went to Jacksonville and became even more of what he

1233
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: was the first time he was in Jacksonville. But he

1234
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: runs the organization, So how does that affect the players?

1235
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: Maron's pretty tough too, right, right, So maybe that's a

1236
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: reflection of Kauughlin to the players, and it was a

1237
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: little bit too stringent. I don't know, maybe so, I mean,

1238
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: and that's the thing didn't look like it the way

1239
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: they were acting some of the time, and we don't know,

1240
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, it sounded as if all the fines and

1241
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: everything that came forth were coming from Kauughlin as opposed

1242
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: to Moron. And I don't know how that. I don't

1243
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: know how it works. Yeah, I don't know how it works.

1244
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works that organzation. I don't

1245
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: even know how it works in this organization. I don't

1246
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it And there were a couple

1247
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: of incidents, especially the last year or two, where we've

1248
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: had we've had billing here. We've asked him about OTAs

1249
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: and he said they're voluntary, and I mean, he doesn't

1250
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: have to we know that. But it got to where

1251
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: Coughlin was, yeah, they're voluntary, but no, no, no, you

1252
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: need to be. It was that kind of feel and

1253
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: that's the whole purpose to the CBA, that's the whole

1254
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: purpose to the NFLPA, and that players have a way

1255
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: of saying, look, they're just supposed to be voluntary. Yeah,

1256
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: so you're mandatorily making me come in to do medical

1257
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: stuff like so, well, it says a lot about your culture.

1258
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: Obviously here it hasn't always been one hundred percent attendance,

1259
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, even going back to the prior administration, but

1260
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: it's usually been pretty pretty good, I mean really good. Yeah,

1261
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: you know. I mean the guys want to come back,

1262
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: they want to be together, and they like being here,

1263
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: and they feel like it adds to the teamwork component.

1264
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,959
Speaker 1: And it wasn't I don't know about what dom because

1265
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 1: I wasn't here then, but it wasn't just with ob

1266
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: it was with Gary too. I mean, you very rarely

1267
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: had guys missed during that time, but if they did,

1268
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: both Gary and Bill would say, look, it's volunt here. Yeah, voluntary,

1269
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: that's what this is about. They had the right approach

1270
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: to that. Never felt like Kauflin got that aspect of it.

1271
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: It was almost like Kauflin looked at it and said, no, no,

1272
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: this is this is team time. You need to be here. Well,

1273
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: the NFL made that voluntary for a reason, and for

1274
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: that reason, you can't go back to the old days,

1275
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: right exactly, and that I think, to my point of

1276
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: I think the my way the highway. I don't know

1277
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: if that ends up being the way that that individuals

1278
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: of that hold that position will look at things going forward.

1279
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's far be it from me to say

1280
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Shad Khan. He's a billionaire and

1281
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: all that. Although when you and I watched the Fulham

1282
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: match in London, I felt like, it's too bad you

1283
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: lost three to nothing. You know, big weekend for you,

1284
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: because I don't think you're gonna win tomorrow. That was

1285
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: Saturday before the Texans played the Jags at Wembley, and

1286
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: he didn't. He had two blowout losses that weekend for

1287
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: his clubs. But again, billionaire, more power to him. Yeah bad,

1288
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and they're a divisional opponent. But

1289
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: you hire Coflin and you just feel like, Okay, I

1290
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: got the guy to lead my organization. This could really work.

1291
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: They go to an AFC championship game, would it could

1292
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: have should have gone the Super Bowl? Yes? And then

1293
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: look what happens. And this year has been catastrophic. I

1294
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: mean they put in fulls blowout losses. Minshew doesn't reverse it.

1295
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: Then Minshew gets the window of the Raider is good

1296
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: for him, and we'll see how it goes down the

1297
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: stretch from here. But again, a coaching change in the

1298
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: AFC South, definitely, well not definitely yet. I shouldn't, you know, say,

1299
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: Maron's out of a job for sure. And also I

1300
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: wonder if Maron regrets leaving Buffalo because he left there

1301
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: voluntarily after a winning season, So I wonder about all

1302
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: that stuff as well. Now that he is really on

1303
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: thin ice, the thinnest of ice, with the final two

1304
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: games coming up at Jacksonville, and coming off back to

1305
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: back losing seasons, it's just got to be brutal. Yeah,

1306
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: there's no question. And having lived there when they were

1307
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: good when I when I lived there, and so the

1308
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: fan base was was pretty strong. It was very strong,

1309
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. And then there was that

1310
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 1: kind of period at the end of Coughlin on into

1311
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: jack del Rio where they had some success, but it

1312
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: just kind of soured the fans that they were spoiled

1313
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: early there. Yeah, a little bit. I mean, you go

1314
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: to an AC championship game your second year. Three years

1315
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: later you're back in it, right, you don't go to

1316
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You have but you have two AFC

1317
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: Championship games in your first what five seasons? It's crazy talk.

1318
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: Here's the other aspect of it. And you know this too.

1319
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,919
Speaker 1: Down in Miami. It's a little different because the Dolphins,

1320
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins established back in nineteen sixty six. They established

1321
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: themselves in Miami really before the Canes did. Yep, that's

1322
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: not the case. The Florida and Florida State football run

1323
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: the state and especially that part of the state. Yeah,

1324
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: so what you ended up having were fans that we're

1325
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: basically exhausted because what was ended up happening is they

1326
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: would go they would go to Florida State games, or

1327
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: they would go to Florida game and they would pick

1328
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: up and then go to a one o'clock game in Jacksonville.

1329
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: And I knew a lot of I was at at Episcopal,

1330
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: where fans had enough money to have season tickets to

1331
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: one of the two schools and have season tickets to

1332
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: the Jags, and they just had to come to grips

1333
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: with you know, I'd be going to the Florida games

1334
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: for twenty five years. I'm not going to stop going there,

1335
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: but I gotta stop doing this all weekend, especially, I

1336
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: don't want to be a part of it exactly. And

1337
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: so college football has been such a big part of

1338
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: that area that in mean throwing Georgia to Georgia, Florida,

1339
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 1: Florida State kind of all in that in that in

1340
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: that area kind of pull from the Jags. So the

1341
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: Jags to really have everybody's attention have to be ten

1342
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: at six to eleven and five, twelve and four. All right,

1343
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: we said we are going to get to more likely

1344
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: to happen in this segment. It didn't happen, so more

1345
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: likely to happen, very likely. In fact, it's going to

1346
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: happen more likely to happen in the next segment. Here

1347
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio, we're hanging out on a Thursday night,

1348
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: deep into the night. All right, it's not that deep.

1349
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, just past seven thirty is not that deep.

1350
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: John Harris, and I with you. I'm Mark Vandermer, your

1351
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: host for the evening. Tomorrow night will be out as well,

1352
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: six to eight, but a little bit longer tonight than

1353
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: usual because no Thursday night game. There's a triple header

1354
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: on Saturday. And right now it's time to play the

1355
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: game that's been sweeping the nation. Not quite, but I

1356
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: wish it's called more likely to happen, more likely to happen,

1357
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: all right, Johnny, more likely to happen to Shaun Watson

1358
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: throws for over three hundred or Jamis Winston throws for

1359
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: more than three seventy five more likely Watson three hundred plus,

1360
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: Winston three seventy five plus. I liked that's a really

1361
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: good number. I actually think it will be to Shaun

1362
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: over three hundred. Okay, I do think Jamis will throw

1363
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 1: for some yards. But there's no God when there's no Evans,

1364
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be relying on brashad perramin a lot, right,

1365
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna have to rely on his

1366
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: two tight ends a lot. And I do think the

1367
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,919
Speaker 1: Texans will I don't say gamble, but but Drew McKinney's

1368
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: out of this game. So I do think you'll see

1369
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot of nickel, dime and maybe even dollar defenses

1370
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: where you have five, six, seven dbs on the field

1371
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: and you dare Jamis to call a run, check to

1372
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: a run, all right, check to a run, go ahead.

1373
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: Their run game is not very good. Dare him to

1374
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: check to a run. So I think there will be

1375
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: a few times where he checks to a run to

1376
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: take the ball out of his hands. And I think

1377
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: that could be just enough to get him under that

1378
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: three seventy five mark. And I think that the Sean,

1379
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: if protected, we'll be able to hit some big plays

1380
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: in the passing game and get over three hundred. All right,

1381
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: so you have Watson three hundred plus. Let's get to

1382
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: the next one. More likely to happen. More likely to

1383
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: happen the Buffalo Bills defeat New England on the road,

1384
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: or Tennessee defeats New Orleans at home, which is more

1385
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: likely to happen. Johnny, the Bills look pretty good here,

1386
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah they do. And by the way, Andre Johnson and

1387
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: I were talking off the air and I would say,

1388
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: where's Ken Dorsey? And I didn't realize that he was

1389
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bell's quarterbacks coach. So yeah, that's a Sean

1390
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: McDermott connection. He used to be with Carolina Panthers, right,

1391
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: and so that was that's the connection. You know, it's

1392
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: always interesting to put together the connections, like, Okay, well

1393
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: how did he get there? Yeah, oh yeah, he's got

1394
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: a connection to McDermott and so yeah, oh boy, that's

1395
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: a good one. I feel like Buffalo is ready to

1396
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: break through. But you know how tough it is up

1397
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: in New England. I mean, you know, they're always ready

1398
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: for you, you know, and feels like they don't get

1399
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: cut off guard too often up there. And the Saints

1400
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: are coming off such a high beating the Colts. Now,

1401
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: they didn't have to exert a ton of effort, but

1402
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 1: they had Breeze breaking the record they breeze was twenty

1403
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: nine of thirty. I mean, that's phenomenal. He's twenty nine

1404
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: and thirty against the Colts, I think. And then they

1405
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: got to go on the road. Now, the Saints need

1406
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: that game badly. They do. There are four teams eleven

1407
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: and three, and so there's still a shot for them

1408
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: to be the one. You've done a ton of work

1409
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: to get eleven wins and the last thing you want.

1410
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have the one seed, you could

1411
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: have the three seed, right, well, the four seed right,

1412
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: But I just don't think Tennessee can stop them. I

1413
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: don't know who Tennessee's gonna put on Michael Thomas and

1414
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: then you take Thomas away, I don't know who you

1415
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: put on a Trey Kuan Smith. What are you gonna

1416
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: do against Alvin Kamara. I just don't think Tennessee can

1417
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: stop him. But because Tennessee has those moments of beating

1418
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: really good teams at home. Last year, to beat New

1419
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: England at home, they shouldn't be Kansas City at home.

1420
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: Last year. They also beat Philadelphia, the defending Super Bowl champs,

1421
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: at home. They play really well at home. That's why

1422
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: I think this win last week against them was a

1423
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 1: phenomenal win for the Texas. I think, even more so

1424
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: than anybody realizes. Oh, they only won by three. I

1425
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: think it was a tremendous win. You won the game

1426
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: up there up there, So I would say more likely

1427
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: to happen that Tennessee would upset the Saints up in Nashville. Yeah,

1428
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: and they needed desperately. This is it for them. They've

1429
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: got a at this one, all hands baby. Yeah. Otherwise

1430
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: it's more likely that they're not going to get anything. Okay,

1431
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: let's get to the next one. More likely to be

1432
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: coaching at his current school in three years Jimbo Fisher

1433
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: or Tom Herman more likely to be coaching at his

1434
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: current school in three years. Jimbo's gonna be here next

1435
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: week at the Academy Sports and outdoors Texas Bowl facing

1436
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State Friday, December twenty seventh. Tom Herman will not.

1437
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: But who's more likely to be coaching at his current

1438
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: school in three and maybe I'll say two to three years.

1439
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: That is a tremendous question. Jimbo's done a little better

1440
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: well this year, certainly. Yeah, but last year you had

1441
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: that emotional Sugar Bowl high when a sugar high with

1442
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: the long Oarns after beating Georgia in New Orleans. But

1443
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: everyone's wondering was that an overinflated kind of feeling because

1444
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: Georgia wasn't happy to be there and you were? And

1445
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: what does it all mean? People over interpret bowl results.

1446
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: I think this happens a lot. By the way, bowl

1447
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: games very Yeah. You know, if you lose a ball game,

1448
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: it's an easy excuse sometimes like a it's a ball

1449
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: they weren't ready to play. If you win a bowl game,

1450
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: hey you want a ball game, it's great. It's momentum building.

1451
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: You know what Sam Ellinger said after the Sugar Bowls,

1452
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 1: like we're back, and like oh god, I just we

1453
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: need to stop. Like Texas is back? Is how is

1454
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: that being back? By the way, I understand that it

1455
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: was a nice win. There's no courses playing off of

1456
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: the excitement of the moment. Yeah, but you're not if

1457
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: you're Texas. Your standards have to be so high that

1458
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: being back means competing contending for a national championship. Yeah,

1459
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: you're not back by winning the Sugar Bowl when you're

1460
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: not in the playoff. That's not back. Back is in

1461
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: this era being in the playoff, or at least getting

1462
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: very close to the playoff, and you could say, all right,

1463
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: now we're flirting with it, we're back. You know, eight

1464
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: games in, you got a good shot to be in

1465
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But look, the standards have to be high there.

1466
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: That the my answer to this question. I kind of

1467
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: I could see both sides of it because I think

1468
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: the Big twelve is easier to win. Herman has not

1469
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: done that. I think in the Big twelve is easier

1470
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Speaker 1: to win. A m just reeled in one of the

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01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: best recruiting classes in the country and they were fourth

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: in their own division in the SEC West, beyond Alabama LSU.

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01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: I think an Auburn they're fourth behind that. I mean,

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: that's that to me says it's more difficult to even

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01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: win the SEC West than it is to win the

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: whole Big twelve. So the flip side of that, though,

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01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: is I'm not totally sure what Herman's numbers are. I

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01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: do know Jimbo's because everybody talked about it was ten

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01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: years and seventy five million, So in three years, he's

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01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: only halfway through that. And I have no idea what

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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: the bio it is, and I'll imagine it's probably pretty significant.

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01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: So my guess is that Jimbo, take that into account,

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01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: ends up being that guy three years down the road.

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01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I think both of them have

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,879
Speaker 1: recruited pretty well, right, But I have a feeling that Jimbo,

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: because of his contract situation, I think I think Aggies

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: will be a little bit more apt to give him

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01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more leniency than when long worn fans

1489
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,879
Speaker 1: look at and go, wait a second, Baylor in Hermann's

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01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: first year was one and eleven and Baylor just played

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01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: for the conference title, and what are we doing? I

1492
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: could see long worn fans being being a little upset

1493
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: about that, so very upset, and for good reason. Yes,

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01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: Baylor went from one and eleven to eleven and one

1495
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: and playing for the Daggum Championship. It took a goo

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: over time. How about Baylor was better than you when

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01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 1: our Briles was there, and then they bottomed out and

1498
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: had to completely redo it, and now they're better than

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01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: you again. And during the whole time, what have you

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01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: been doing right exactly? I mean, that's a real tough

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01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: thing to take if you're the long Horns. Oh, it

1502
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: perplexes me. And I've lived here since two thousand and two,

1503
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: and I still every time somebody tries to explain it

1504
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: to me, I still don't understand how it's so difficult

1505
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback at the University of Texas. You see,

1506
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: we had Garrett Gilibert, and he was a great recruit,

1507
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: and therefore we couldn't get all right, whatever, this is

1508
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: ten years ago, okay, I mean, And no offense to

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01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: the guy's playing there and the current the incumbent as

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01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: it were. All right, anyway, enough on that for now,

1511
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: But looking forward to the bowl game next year. But

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01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: next week Aggie's and Oklahoma State. It's gonna be fun

1513
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: here at NRG Stadium. And boy, we are grateful to

1514
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: have that matchup because a lot of bowls around the

1515
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: country don't have compelling matchups like that one. And a

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01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: great crowd. It's gonna be fun. All right, Let's get

1517
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: to this one more likely to happen Winston in Tampa

1518
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: Bay in twenty twenty or Foles in Jacksonville in twenty

1519
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: twenty as a starter. I think now I'm not totally

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: sure what foles contract situation is. He's under contract, though

1521
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: we do know that, and Winston is knocked rrently. Right.

1522
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 1: Here's here's a really complicated aspect of this. Okay, you

1523
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: if you're cleaning house in Jacksonville, which it sounds like

1524
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: Shot is doing. That's you're cleaning all the way. You're

1525
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 1: cleaning obviously your office hierarchy, but you're probably thinking the

1526
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: quarterback too. So whoever you get, it's got to believe

1527
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: in folds right at the very least if you want

1528
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: to keep them. But I just don't know that you

1529
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: can do that. I think it is like, let's cleans

1530
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: all of our key spots, high office hierarchy, and a quarterback.

1531
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: Let's keep Minshew here giving an opportunity, we're gonna draft

1532
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 1: a quarterback or sign another one, but they are salary

1533
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: cap restricted in a big, big free agency signed, oh

1534
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: in a big way. And remember that. Okay, well, can

1535
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: I can I take this little dive in real fast.

1536
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 1: I remember a couple of years ago where the Jags

1537
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: had all this money under the app and they were

1538
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: spending it like they were handing out Pez like from

1539
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: a Pez dispenser, like here, you take some money, and

1540
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: you take some money, and you take some money, and

1541
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: from the dispenser they were taking the little the little

1542
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: rappers and emptying out. Yeah, they had a little money,

1543
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: got done, you know, shooting it all over the place,

1544
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: and then you look up three years later and oh, yeah,

1545
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: they got cap issues and now they're stuck. And I

1546
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: even said that last offseason. They had to get rid

1547
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: of Sean Gibson, good football player who's helped us immensely.

1548
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: They had to get rid of Lak Jackson who got

1549
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 1: hurt early in the year. They had to get rid

1550
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: of Carlos Hide. They had to get rid of a

1551
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: bunch of goat and it benefited us, right, But they

1552
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: had to get rid of all those guys because they

1553
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: needed money to go get Nick Foles. And now they're

1554
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: looking at it going, well, that wasn't money will spent,

1555
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: so they're gonna. I just don't know how they can

1556
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: bring Foles back, but financially, I don't know that they

1557
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: can afford to keep him, so I would have to

1558
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: I'd have to look at foles contract a little bit

1559
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: closer and see if there was some way they could

1560
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: get rid of him. Or is there some team willing

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01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: to trade for him that would take on some of

1562
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: the salary and then the Jags eat the other half.

1563
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but their salary cap situation is horrid.

1564
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: So all those people that are clamoring for well, the

1565
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: Texans said, salary cap money, you gotta spend it, you

1566
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: gotta spend it. That thing turns around really quick, sparky,

1567
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: and you saw that with the Jaguars that went from

1568
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: two years of nearly one hundred million dollars in cap room. Too,

1569
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: You've got like two hundred and thirty thousand dollars of

1570
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: cap room in three years, and what did it produce

1571
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: for you? Not much? So I think along those lines,

1572
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: I think Jamis has proven that Yes he's volatile, Yes

1573
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: he did throw twenty four interceptions, but if I'm BA,

1574
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this guy has gotten better and better and better.

1575
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: I got a young team, they looked at Jamis, they

1576
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: follow his lead, which can be bad at times, but

1577
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: I think he's sort of turning a corner. I think

1578
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 1: Bruce has found what he wants to him. I think

1579
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: I think he'll be back. I think Winston is more

1580
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: likely to be back with the bucks fold of the jack,

1581
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: even though he's the one without the contract currently. Okay,

1582
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: one more for you, more likely to happen. Coach of

1583
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: the Year Kyle Shamahan, John Harbaugh or coach X. Wow,

1584
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: give me your coach of the year. I'm gonna say hardball.

1585
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 1: And they've played and the Ravens won in the rain

1586
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, but it was close. Yeah, And that's not

1587
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: all it's about. I You know, it's funny. I was

1588
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: on the Bear Bryan Award committee for a long time,

1589
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I was basically the guy

1590
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: that have to present the coaches and our committee would

1591
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: vote on who would be the finalist, and then we

1592
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: had a board, we had a list of writers that

1593
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: then would pick the winner from the finalist. And so

1594
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: as I presented the coach's cases, a lot of times

1595
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 1: it was, well, you know, this team was one of

1596
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: eleven last year. He came along and all of a sudden,

1597
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,839
Speaker 1: there's seven and five, or you know, they won the conference,

1598
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: or whatever the case might be. But one thing that

1599
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,879
Speaker 1: I always talked about was if a coach was smart

1600
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: enough to hire people around him. The hired offensive coordinator,

1601
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: hired defensive coordinator. You know, that's one of the things

1602
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,839
Speaker 1: that Dabo didn't get a lot of credit for. Dabbo

1603
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: in twenty ten, twenty ten hired Chad Morris, and twenty

1604
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: ten or twenty eleven, he hired Chad Morris, and Chad

1605
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Morris came in and ran his offense. And then Dabbo

1606
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: was able to you know, you know, get Brent Vnables

1607
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: to come on ye, and it was huge, Yeah, it

1608
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: was massive. He hired the right guys. And then with

1609
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: the way that Dabbo leads that program with now two

1610
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: coordinators that are top of the line coordinators, they go

1611
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: out and recruit guys that fit those systems and all

1612
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden clumps and just go students head coaches, right,

1613
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: and that takes that takes a lot for a head

1614
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: coach to be able to realize, I don't have the

1615
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: right guy with me. And it wasn't as if he

1616
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: didn't have the right guy. He had Billy Napier, who's

1617
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: doing a great job at University Louisiana as a head coach.

1618
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: Billy was the offensive coordinator, but he realized something wasn't

1619
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: quite right. I've got to change. I've got to make

1620
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: that change. So a coach to make that realization, Okay,

1621
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: we've got to do something different, making the decision of

1622
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: putting Greg Roman as offensive coordinator and saying, Greg, I

1623
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: don't care what we've done in the past. I don't

1624
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: care what our verbiage is. I don't care any of that.

1625
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: You run this thing, and you build it around number eight,

1626
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: and you run it and you build it through him.

1627
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,919
Speaker 1: And then throughout the year you saw moments where Harball

1628
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: didn't pull back on the reins on Lamar. And he

1629
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: tried in Seattle fourth down play in Seattle tie ball

1630
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: game and it's fourth and like one and a half

1631
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: or two, and Lamar wants to go for it. It's raining,

1632
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 1: it's bad, and they wanted to go for it, and

1633
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: so they called time out. Harball talks to the sidelin.

1634
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: He says, all right, let's go for it. I trust you.

1635
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: Go runs a ball in the end zone for a

1636
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: touchdown and Baltimore hasn't looked back from that point, So

1637
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: there have been some moments like that. I think John

1638
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: Harbaugh has transformed. I think he's transformed. He's transformed himself

1639
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: as a leader. He has allowed the people underneath him

1640
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: to do their jobs. I mean, wink Martindale run his

1641
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: defense the way that he's done, I think Hardball has

1642
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: done one heck of a job. Now that's he's saying

1643
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: that Kyle hasn't right, But I think we just have

1644
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: seen a transformation in the way that Hardball has done

1645
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: things in Baltimore. Well, I think he's always been a

1646
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: good delegator. He's a special teams guy. He's always had

1647
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: to rely on the coordinators, rely or count on them,

1648
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: and I think he's always done a good job at that.

1649
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: He's a terrific head coach. So good year for him.

1650
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: And as far as Shanahan goes, I really questioned Rob

1651
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: Salah and we know the guy as the defensive coordinator

1652
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 1: out of the gate for a rookie head coach. However,

1653
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: it's worked out really well this year. It has always

1654
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: been perfect, but here they are and it's a great

1655
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: stuff for him. I'm happy for both of them, all right,

1656
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for the show. My gosh, we're

1657
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: out of time already. All right, Johnny and I are

1658
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: back tomorrow, mostly Johnny, but we're gonna have a lot

1659
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: of good stuff, including an exclusive with Bill O'Brien right

1660
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: off the top, as it's Game Day EVE already tomorrow,

1661
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: don't get Johnny started. Tomorrow's a game week Saturday, Today's

1662
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: Game Week Friday. But it's only Thursday. Okay, I won't

1663
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: do it, but the players are starting to do it too.

1664
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: And don't forget. The game is at noon on Saturday

1665
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten, Fox twenty six on TV. You

1666
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: can stream it on your app. Do that. Have a

1667
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: great night, Go tech Sans