Speaker 1: It's nine O Gen one Allegen with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling.
Speaker 2: Hi, so we're here for the second episode of season five. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I just got really excited.
Speaker 1: Was that too loud? No, it's worthy of excitement. I agree.
Speaker 1: We're in season five, you guys. This is things that
Speaker 1: we made it. We're halfway through. We're halfway through, and
Speaker 1: this is so different.
Speaker 3: I know it is, Jenny, You're right, but I'm loving it.
Speaker 3: How are you guys feeling it is different?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel confused and conflicted.
Speaker 2: The first episode, as you know, I wasn't sure, you know,
Speaker 2: almost flash folks and everything and this summer. But this one,
Speaker 2: I'm really getting into it and I'm starting to feel
Speaker 2: the butterflies inside from when I told you guys from
Speaker 2: the beginning. I think it's the college years that I
Speaker 2: love best. It's turning to hit that stride.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe it's just because I curtseyed. I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, I think you're right, because it was this episode
Speaker 3: that brought me back. I think this season things really thrive.
Speaker 3: Like I this one made me realize. It was when
Speaker 3: she was in her underwear and I'm like, oh my God. Yes,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I remembered this might be the
Speaker 3: best season of the series.
Speaker 2: You remembered again that she takes all our men. Did
Speaker 2: you guys know that there's like a famous So Darren Martin,
Speaker 2: I have to send this to you.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: Sent me one of those caricature drawings that was done
Speaker 2: a valerie with all of our men's heads on the
Speaker 2: wall like deer heads when they put their fries on
Speaker 2: the wall after like a hunter. And I think she's
Speaker 2: sitting there like a hunter, and Jen, Donna and Kelly
Speaker 2: are looking through the door. My eyes are crazy big
Speaker 2: because they're characters.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It was fine, but I'll send it to you guys.
Speaker 2: We can put her like her commerce social Yeah.
Speaker 3: Whoa. You know what I noticed right off the bat
Speaker 3: that I had forgotten Tiffany amber Thesim where she doesn't
Speaker 3: use that anymore. She's just Tiffany Theson.
Speaker 1: Oh she dropped the amber.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so was there something at the time where that
Speaker 3: was sort of a trend? Brian Austin Green Tiffany amber Theson,
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: The fact on this one. I say fact because I'm
Speaker 2: not sure about Tiffany, but I know Brian had to
Speaker 2: because there was another SAG actor named Brian Green, so
Speaker 2: he had to put Brian.
Speaker 3: Had to use it.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that happens. That happens.
Speaker 3: I fully watched the credits again. I didn't skip them
Speaker 3: because I wanted to sort of enjoy the new credits
Speaker 3: for a minute too. We just go back.
Speaker 2: Sorry one second. I'm still in the name thing. That's
Speaker 2: kind of wild, like a universe thing that Tiffany Amber
Speaker 2: theson Brian Austin Green, both with middle names used in
Speaker 2: their full name, both with a's What are the chances
Speaker 2: it was bag and tat?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Did she ever go by tat? Because he sometimes
Speaker 3: I do write bag when I'm talking about Brian, Like,
Speaker 3: in fact.
Speaker 1: Brian Austin Green. I think that's a catchy name. I
Speaker 1: think that kid should be. It's a star.
Speaker 2: You know what. You You've always had good intuition, good taste.
Speaker 2: I think you might be right.
Speaker 3: Don't care for the hair, though, Oh I mean, I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't want to offend anyone, or certainly not you know,
Speaker 1: offend Brian Austin Green. I stop now, true, true, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that hair is just not attractive.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna make it personal for a second. I'm
Speaker 2: really glad that he had that hair because in IRL
Speaker 2: I might have been really tempted to still carry on
Speaker 2: a mad crush for him. And you know what, my
Speaker 2: crush days were ended very quick.
Speaker 1: I have the book on that one.
Speaker 3: You're going to be in a world a hurt in
Speaker 3: a couple of seasons because he comes back strong, but
Speaker 3: right now the hair is not right.
Speaker 2: It comes back strong.
Speaker 3: Oh that's looks he starts to look like really good.
Speaker 2: Well, there's there's some other things that happened in their
Speaker 2: life over the next five years. But yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 4: Guys looks goody. Sorry, I do think those are your
Speaker 4: new boobs. Yeah, I definitely too, definitely new boobs. I
Speaker 4: determined that as well.
Speaker 2: It's the two finger test. It was pretty spread far
Speaker 2: apart before and you can't no new confirmed.
Speaker 3: You look great. Both of you look great. I do
Speaker 3: really like the hair. I don't know if the long
Speaker 3: hair had started to just be dated or something, but
Speaker 3: this hair is very chic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody has short hair now, Tiff Valerie, Kelly Donna.
Speaker 2: It was on trend now there. Yeah, yeah, why did
Speaker 2: we read some comment from a fan? Sorry, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get in trouble now a Brenda fan who were Brenda
Speaker 2: fans too, saying that Brenda had cut off Kelly's hair.
Speaker 1: Maybe they meant she should have.
Speaker 2: That now you have short hair, And I was like,
Speaker 2: did I miss that scene before she went to London
Speaker 2: she imagined or maybe that's their story because we were like,
Speaker 2: what would have happened?
Speaker 1: I like that creating a little drama behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: but on the show, I like that, okay for me.
Speaker 3: The fashion has also made a really strong comeback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 3: Season four maybe wasn't its best, but this is really good.
Speaker 1: The baby like, oh, the best of the nineties. I
Speaker 1: feel like.
Speaker 3: Totally with that tank under, I actually wanted to wear
Speaker 3: that again like Tory. Donna wears like the babied All
Speaker 3: dress with the tank under in that scene that I
Speaker 3: can't wait to talk about because it's so beautiful with
Speaker 3: you and Luke.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just never get scenes with Dylan.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, let's get into it, ok, let's talk about
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Season five, episode two, Under the
Speaker 1: Influence aired September fourteenth, nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: Synopsis. Donna ditches the debutantes and refuses to run from David.
Speaker 2: Dylan spirals out of control when Nat lets the cat
Speaker 2: out of the bag about Brandon and Kelly. Steve keeps
Speaker 2: trying with Valerie while she's making moves on Brandon and
Speaker 2: Cindy's wallet. Meanwhile, Andrea skips Steakair and Claire skips Freshman Year.
Speaker 1: Directed by Scott Pollin, written by Chip Johansson.
Speaker 3: It's a phenomenal episode. It was good, itchy and does.
Speaker 2: It was weird for me.
Speaker 1: I usually I have two pages of notes. I have
Speaker 1: half a page notes.
Speaker 3: You guys, what, Oh my gosh, I have like twenty
Speaker 3: pages with so many questions as usual.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't write now. It's on my head,
Speaker 2: in your head.
Speaker 1: Plenty of room up there. You always hold it all
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 3: Do you guys like the sort of drama. The level
Speaker 3: of soapy drama is up a bit.
Speaker 2: I like it, but I hear you, Jen, It is
Speaker 2: very different than what nine two and zero originally was.
Speaker 2: But as we're getting older, drama does start to happen
Speaker 2: when you get to be this age, and yeah, it's
Speaker 2: more than when you're young and kind of naive and sheltered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's really interesting to watch the show
Speaker 1: sort of evolve through the nineties now and be in
Speaker 1: the mid nineties, because everybody does look different in the
Speaker 1: fashion is so different, the makeup's different, the style of
Speaker 1: shooting the show is different. The only thing that remains
Speaker 1: the same is that GD boom. But we've decided that
Speaker 1: that's not something I should talk about anymore.
Speaker 3: Stylistic changes because like to me, the average like just fan,
Speaker 3: I might not be as attuned to that, Like, are
Speaker 3: you seeing differences a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's definitely evolved. It moves faster. I can attest to
Speaker 2: that because I know, Jen, you watch it with your
Speaker 2: kids and they like it. My kids were like, this
Speaker 2: is really slow, but good. They're starting to be into
Speaker 2: it because it's moving faster.
Speaker 1: I feel like they use a lot more stock footage.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yes, all the areas of Beverly Hills are wherever they
Speaker 1: are in the show, which is really cool.
Speaker 3: I noticed that a lot in this episode. You're so right,
Speaker 3: and I didn't mind it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of embracing the concept that the location is
Speaker 1: just as important, just as big of a character as
Speaker 1: the characters in the story. You know, when you're telling
Speaker 1: something like this because we kind of you know, we
Speaker 1: did it was Beverly Hills in the beginning, but you
Speaker 1: didn't really get to see that much of it. It
Speaker 1: was all sort of interior.
Speaker 2: Or they were one of the other the director turned
Speaker 2: in a kind. It was too short, so they needed
Speaker 2: to add some fill. I think you're right good call.
Speaker 3: Really know.
Speaker 1: What I know you'll be ecstatic about, though, is that
Speaker 1: Brandon's goate's gone right out the game.
Speaker 2: My god, really the comic villain. Oh, I didn't go back.
Speaker 2: I wanted to go back and see what he was
Speaker 2: filming at this time. It had to have been either
Speaker 2: that or you know, my dad was very into hair
Speaker 2: and makeup and everything, and for some reason it slipped
Speaker 2: through the cracks first episode. So he saw the first
Speaker 2: episode and he was like, off his.
Speaker 1: Face, Well, moving on, Donna looks great in this episode.
Speaker 1: I like your hair that length. I like when you
Speaker 1: had it all back off your face and know you
Speaker 1: tear to that so knows.
Speaker 2: I hate showing my face. So I can't believe that
Speaker 2: I actually went for it, But as a fan watching
Speaker 2: the show, not me, it's hard to separate when I
Speaker 2: see myself. But I was like, oh, my god, I
Speaker 2: love it, and I feel like that's super in right now.
Speaker 2: You see people with that slicked wet almost look it
Speaker 2: was all gel then. But you know, you know, I
Speaker 2: have not like Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 3: For me, it's very contemporary, Like I don't feel it's
Speaker 3: as dated all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: It feels entirety.
Speaker 3: In the entirety. Yeah, it feels a little bit more current.
Speaker 3: It felt really juicy. I know, we'll get into me.
Speaker 3: He loves the juice I do, and scene by scene,
Speaker 3: and I think the biggest fail is that they did
Speaker 3: not put Donna and Deshaun together as a couple, like
Speaker 3: they are so cute and really that would have been
Speaker 3: so cool to have.
Speaker 1: Whatever. Well, we really learned that Donna's mom is basically
Speaker 1: a racist.
Speaker 3: She's terrible.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Kelly's one to her though, oh my god, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from the beginning from Kelly's gown her forever, like
Speaker 2: has Kelly always been like, your mom's kind of not cool?
Speaker 2: Your mom doesn't Donna's mom doesn't treat her well, Like,
Speaker 2: great question.
Speaker 1: I wonder it feels like she's kind of reached her
Speaker 1: limit at this point with watching how this is going
Speaker 1: down Yeah.
Speaker 3: Kelly's very uh, I don't I don't know if the
Speaker 3: exact word is. I want to say intuitive, but I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's quite the right word. Very aware
Speaker 3: of what's really going on here.
Speaker 1: Because she knows Donna so well, like she knows herself,
Speaker 1: like they're so close, and she recognizes that this is
Speaker 1: not who Donna is, you know.
Speaker 3: The debutante. I mean, we go.
Speaker 2: I've probably said this before, but Kelly and Donna, their
Speaker 2: friendship really does mirror my friendship with Jen, because you know,
Speaker 2: we have friends, and you know, when there's situations that
Speaker 2: aren't great, there's some friends that kind of don't say anything,
Speaker 2: and Jen's always been the friend that's like, no, this
Speaker 2: isn't right. And then Kelly really is that person to Donna.
Speaker 2: So it's crazy how we couldn't have known, but it mirrored.
Speaker 3: I am so happy you said that because I had
Speaker 3: a moment, Oh my god, I almost got like tears
Speaker 3: in my eyes. I had a moment in this episode
Speaker 3: where I was not watching Kelly and Donna, I was
Speaker 3: watching Jenny and Tori.
Speaker 1: It was that way too.
Speaker 3: It was really like poignant, like I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, because it really your characters are your personalities kind.
Speaker 2: Of at their core, they're starting to Weirdy.
Speaker 3: It was a little weird, Jenny.
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I never really even realized it, and what you
Speaker 1: said to her, like, I never really even thought that
Speaker 1: through or realized it. I mean, I know, you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked before about the writers using us as people
Speaker 1: and sort of bringing in our characteristics as they got
Speaker 1: to know us through the years, but we just naturally
Speaker 1: brought in our own instincts and our own like reactions
Speaker 1: and facial expressions, all the things that are natural to
Speaker 1: each of us. And I loved it when, you know,
Speaker 1: because Kelly and Donna aren't seeing eye to eye and
Speaker 1: that the episode really focused on that, and the way
Speaker 1: they sort of brought everything to the table and talked
Speaker 1: it out and exploded at one another, you know, the
Speaker 1: way Donna rose up finally and said what she had
Speaker 1: to say, and the way Kelly didn't back down like
Speaker 1: it was so it was so you and me. It
Speaker 1: was crazy, and I was like I could watch these
Speaker 1: two characters. I mean, not because I'm one of them,
Speaker 1: but because probably because I love you so much that
Speaker 1: I can just feel like I could watch a W'LL
Speaker 1: show about killing done me.
Speaker 3: And Tori you can correct me if I'm wrong. I
Speaker 3: also had sort of a blurred moment because you do
Speaker 3: come from a very well to do family that is
Speaker 3: very high falutin, and you know your parents were that's true,
Speaker 3: how your parents are very involved in your life. You know.
Speaker 3: At that time, I like, were you a debutante? You
Speaker 3: know all those things? I was like, how much is
Speaker 3: this mirroring? No?
Speaker 2: I was not a debutante. I didn't even go, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, what is it when you're younger?
Speaker 1: Katillion yeap, And so you didn't have a keen segniera either.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't have a bot mitzvah, I didn't you
Speaker 2: that's surprising. Not did not.
Speaker 3: I could have seen definitely being a debutante. I know
Speaker 3: one of us was a debutante.
Speaker 2: Sugarman was a debutante, you guys, but we did not.
Speaker 2: Can we learn so much about our co host every
Speaker 2: single week that we're like.
Speaker 1: And do the Texas down?
Speaker 3: So this is the thing we did not have to do.
Speaker 1: That is that just a Texas thing?
Speaker 3: I actually know. First of all, my faces got so
Speaker 3: red because I'm not. I'm very not the debutante type,
Speaker 3: but I was in San Francisco. We did have to curtsy,
Speaker 3: we did have to wear the wedding gown, we did
Speaker 3: have to wear the gloves. You do have the escore,
Speaker 3: you do the waltz with your dad, but we did
Speaker 3: not do that. And the factory that you did that, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, I was watching that thinking I wonder
Speaker 1: if she could still do that. So I got up
Speaker 1: and tried it. My it's doable. I think you doable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was crazy is you went you did the
Speaker 3: Curtsey and you go down and then you went down more.
Speaker 1: Get her pretty little head on a pretty little puffy dress.
Speaker 2: I was I remember because they had to teach me.
Speaker 2: And I remember two things being like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: the storyline. I was not cringing, but I was like,
Speaker 2: is this happened? What did I get this storyline? Like
Speaker 2: I'm from I was from Beverly Hills. Like I didn't
Speaker 2: know about being a debutante. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: something like you're saying you did it, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know about it. So I was like, is
Speaker 2: this even real? Like none of my friends right, tell them.
Speaker 2: They're like, this is your storyline. You're a debutante. Oh
Speaker 2: my god. My friends in real life like were like,
Speaker 2: this is weird. And then they had to teach me,
Speaker 2: and I kept doing it. I was so nervous, like
Speaker 2: my heart was pounding on my chest. I'm like, please
Speaker 2: do it right, Please do it right. Please. I hope
Speaker 2: my boobs don't fault my mom new boobiz fall out
Speaker 2: of that dress? What's keeping them in?
Speaker 3: There was a lot that was accurate in it. The
Speaker 3: main there's a couple of flags I had on this episode,
Speaker 3: but the one that it's a year off because you
Speaker 3: actually would have been the debutante your freshman year of college.
Speaker 3: So you graduate high school, they like select you to
Speaker 3: be the debutante, and then you come out, as they say,
Speaker 3: like around December of your freshman year of college. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is still a thing though.
Speaker 1: Does this thing is still happening today?
Speaker 2: Yes, like coming oss the country? Does this happen in California?
Speaker 1: Yeah, coming out all over the world, but for a
Speaker 1: different reasons. Yeah, thank god.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's still definitely seems so archaic.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we do see what I do a
Speaker 2: little bit later, like, I don't you know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about, Amy.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I can't remember. She just did a little physical.
Speaker 2: I just did a wave of what's to come for
Speaker 2: Donna down the line being on a float in a row?
Speaker 1: Are you the Rose Rose Lady?
Speaker 2: I mean, why did I get those storylines super Bay, because.
Speaker 3: They're kind of correct for Donna. This was not that
Speaker 3: outlandish for the Martins and Donna.
Speaker 2: Money, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she's very high society missus Martin, and she
Speaker 3: wants to be high society and all of it, the fundraising,
Speaker 3: it's all for charity, these debutante things, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: there was a lot of accurate stuff.
Speaker 2: It's always I want to go I want to go back,
Speaker 2: just for one second and say that I loved working
Speaker 2: with Chress with Cres Williams, and I as well wish
Speaker 2: they had become a couple, like I, yeah, I know
Speaker 2: that was a storyline. They were delicately dancing around, but
Speaker 2: it would have been a really great storyline. And I
Speaker 2: felt like we had a lot of chemistry. He's super
Speaker 2: hot and yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and I love that the reason you stand up
Speaker 3: to your mom, the straw that broke the camel's back
Speaker 3: was that that's when you had had it and you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm out, I'm going back to school, I'm going back
Speaker 3: to my friends. This is a load of crap, Like
Speaker 3: that was the thing that she says in the kitchen
Speaker 3: that you're like, oh, yeah, okay, no meat, are.
Speaker 2: You sure there's not more? But Donna and Deshan, no,
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's done yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been such a great storyline too,
Speaker 1: even if you hadn't they wanted you to stay on
Speaker 1: the debutante thing. I mean you could then you could
Speaker 1: bring in that you guys do end up being boyfriend
Speaker 1: and girlfriend and how that rocks the cart, and.
Speaker 2: That would have been great.
Speaker 3: They've created a great character with him now, like they
Speaker 3: kind of it took a minute for him to find
Speaker 3: his way because in the very beginning with the like
Speaker 3: he wasn't going to do his school work and he
Speaker 3: was maybe gonna cheat or want a Brandon to take
Speaker 3: his that was that isn't really who Deshaun is. And
Speaker 3: now we're seeing who the character has become and the
Speaker 3: chemistry and he's so charming and you like him.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: So the only sort of my first flag is Valerie
Speaker 3: is way too assimilated with the group, way too quickly.
Speaker 2: Baby Showers's videotaping what I was.
Speaker 1: Like, wait, what's this did? Just like I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was so upsetting to me because it was like,
Speaker 1: who who says that's okay? Like, I get it, she's
Speaker 1: she can because she's Brandon's cousin niece.
Speaker 3: No, they're family friends, family friend.
Speaker 2: We're still always going to think that they're cousins and
Speaker 2: it's gonna get super awkies because she's into him.
Speaker 3: I don't keep reminding me of family friends. And they
Speaker 3: have kissed, but yeah, but what does she wait Andrea,
Speaker 3: who's just come home from the hospital with this baby
Speaker 3: and said on this rando is just her bestie holding
Speaker 3: the camcorder and talking like they've been chums for twenty
Speaker 3: that I was like.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is something kind of cute about it,
Speaker 1: like accepting, you know, this new person into the group.
Speaker 1: I kind of like that, like vibe of inclusion. But
Speaker 1: I also think that they need to write it in
Speaker 1: a little bit and maybe while they're at it, they
Speaker 1: could write in a little bit of Kelly and Brandon's relationship,
Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, she's saying I love
Speaker 1: you to him on the phone, like very casually, not
Speaker 1: like I've realized I'm in love with you. And there's
Speaker 1: no moment, there's no She's just like, Okay, I love you.
Speaker 2: They skip all of their momentous. I never knew this.
Speaker 2: I never knew in their relationship. That's like the big
Speaker 2: like OMG moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they skip what. I was like, wowsa, Like they
Speaker 3: said it like they've been saying a thousand times, and
Speaker 3: I don't particularly remember Kelly and Dylan saying it like that.
Speaker 3: M they're very cute.
Speaker 1: I do know that Kelly's ever said that to anyone.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm obsessed with them as a couple, and
Speaker 3: maybe it's intentional, like we're supposed to really they're in,
Speaker 3: but it was jarring. I'm like, I just want to
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 2: It's okay if they're in fast, I want to see
Speaker 2: it though, Yeah, see it play out.
Speaker 3: And obviously they and I know why, and Tory you
Speaker 3: may remember why, Josh Richland has sort of been written back.
Speaker 2: In I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Oh well, we'll find out very soon.
Speaker 1: Why does it take a long time.
Speaker 3: No, it's actually quite tragile.
Speaker 1: Does anybody I mean, oh, that's not good. I should
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't say this then, but I'm going to can.
Speaker 1: Does anybody care about this student government storyline?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: But I think they've brought him back for this. I
Speaker 3: can't remember if it's next week. And I'm not getting spoilers.
Speaker 3: We've all seen the show thousand times.
Speaker 2: No, we don't know.
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 2: You're spoiling everything, right, not?
Speaker 3: Oh god, I'm gonna get so many dms. But yes,
Speaker 3: he's clearly been written back in because he sort of
Speaker 3: disappeared and faded ish. But here he's back, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, he's quite like Major. He also looks forty.
Speaker 3: No disrespect to the actor, but he looks really old.
Speaker 1: He's such a great face man like, what a great
Speaker 1: character actor. I don't know his career path, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's worked a ton.
Speaker 3: Should we talk about Dylan Good?
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: So. He looks smoking hot, he's blue.
Speaker 1: Perry is so babelish, He's so fine.
Speaker 3: And even drunky dirty Dylan is amazing.
Speaker 2: I think it's even better and we all feel for
Speaker 2: him that he has an addiction and he's an alcoholic,
Speaker 2: so obviously not trying to glamorize that at all, but
Speaker 2: he really disheveled. Dylan at his like slow point is
Speaker 2: super hot.
Speaker 1: Well, he throws around a number, a hard number of
Speaker 1: his fortune. Do you notice email always like how much
Speaker 1: money does he have?
Speaker 3: I mean he lost a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, I mean if I was him,
Speaker 1: I'd be going after them. I'd be doing more than
Speaker 1: just king my woes away.
Speaker 3: Totally totally can't.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 3: Jen.
Speaker 2: He's just you know, he's had family trauma, lost, like
Speaker 2: he just wants to do something but he can't.
Speaker 3: He's unhinged. It's like I sort of expect better, and
Speaker 3: I guess that's why they got the drinking in there,
Speaker 3: because that's why he's imploding. Because the real Dylan, the
Speaker 3: sort of new Dylan, really could have handled this differently.
Speaker 3: But he's just super unhinged and a hot mess. And
Speaker 3: the way he attacked the Walshes that was so aggressive.
Speaker 3: And I love Nat in this episode, so maybe we
Speaker 3: talk about that like that.
Speaker 1: Was oh yeah, because Nat can talk to these characters
Speaker 1: that way, like he's got that fatherly figure energy.
Speaker 3: I think as series goes on, he becomes more prominent,
Speaker 3: especially as the Walshes disappear. So I loved seeing that.
Speaker 3: But when he.
Speaker 1: Dropping Walshes are disappearing, not for a bit, one at
Speaker 1: a time, what's happening.
Speaker 2: We might have to have funeral at some point for
Speaker 2: Jim Walsh's suspenders when they leave the show, because you
Speaker 2: might not be.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, he officially is not on the show at
Speaker 1: some point the moment okay, I need to get some
Speaker 1: gig go below it. It's like you It's like I
Speaker 1: wasn't even there because you know what, I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: That was you know, a different person back then.
Speaker 3: Well, and there was some things that I'm sure you
Speaker 3: guys kind of had to block out or you're working
Speaker 3: so much I.
Speaker 2: Think personal preservation doing during the filming of this survival.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I really particularly like Nat in this episode.
Speaker 3: I really like how he sort of gives that signal
Speaker 3: to the Walshes like don't don't worry. He really you
Speaker 3: see the gnat that we sort of I think, always
Speaker 3: think of, and then he really lets him have it.
Speaker 3: But ooh, when he lets the cat out of the bag,
Speaker 3: I actually was like shook.
Speaker 1: Did you notice Nadine the employee at the beach Pit?
Speaker 1: She had two lines in this episode?
Speaker 2: Wait, I missed her first time? Jen, you think?
Speaker 1: I think that was Nadine's first time with lines, which
Speaker 1: means she got her sad card. You know, so cool.
Speaker 1: That must have been really big for her.
Speaker 3: Do you remember what she says at all?
Speaker 1: Nope? Just watched it last night?
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 3: Okay, Shall I keep going with my questions? You have
Speaker 3: something like a particular storyline you want to talk about.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that line that Dylan says to
Speaker 1: Brandon when Brandon goes over to see him is so
Speaker 1: I don't know what's kind of haunting When he said
Speaker 1: she seems like such a long time ago, and he
Speaker 1: was referring to Brenda. I just felt it just sort
Speaker 1: of haunted me.
Speaker 3: And the interesting sort of continuing to sprinkle Brenda in
Speaker 3: which I like, it's not like she Shannon left the
Speaker 3: show and it's just like she's vanished. They say she called,
Speaker 3: and right after she asked my dad for money, she
Speaker 3: asks about you. It's like they're definitely acknowledging it. And
Speaker 3: we get the same thing with Valerie shopping. Why don't
Speaker 3: you get something from Brenda's closet. Oh she's a snige too,
Speaker 3: you know. Okay, here's the credit card, so her presence
Speaker 3: is still there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, yeah, good because Emily Valentine, I know she
Speaker 2: wasn't Brenda, but still, like we have talked about like they're.
Speaker 1: Long lost soulmates and then waiting for one another mentioned
Speaker 1: her name again.
Speaker 3: I really actually sort of had a lot of questions
Speaker 3: about the relationship between Brandon, Dylan and Steve. Steve is
Speaker 3: very quick to be hateful towards Dylan every opportunity he has,
Speaker 3: and it hasn't It's not just in this episode he's
Speaker 3: sort of a word about Dylan.
Speaker 2: He's threatened by him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it comes all the time.
Speaker 1: Steve was jealous probably of Dylan in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't think that's warranted because some
Speaker 1: would say Steve is the lucky one of that of
Speaker 1: those two totally.
Speaker 2: I think typically with personalities, when someone has that, like
Speaker 2: you know, Steve gets reactive, Steve has some anger sometimes,
Speaker 2: Steve very kind heart, but all those qualities, I feel
Speaker 2: like he can easily be friends with Brandon because Brandon
Speaker 2: kind of is a neutral guy. He's about what he says,
Speaker 2: says it and Dylan's not. So they're very much kind
Speaker 2: of the same person in a different way. Steve Steven Dylan,
Speaker 2: and it's very uh typical.
Speaker 3: You don't see it of men as much as you
Speaker 3: do women, that he wants his best friend to himself
Speaker 3: and they really like. Even though it's subtle, it's almost
Speaker 3: like he's so jealous of Dylan taking Brandon from him
Speaker 3: that he gets kind of happy when Dylan's a mess
Speaker 3: because he gets more branded.
Speaker 2: Do you really think it's that maybe I didn't nerve
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: Because the romance before that word existed there.
Speaker 3: He go, yeah, And I think he always and I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's subtle or super intentional, but
Speaker 3: like whenever he introduces even with Howie Long, oh, this
Speaker 3: is my best friend Brandon Walsh, like he always says,
Speaker 3: there's about best brand, And so I do think that
Speaker 3: he's so happy when Dylan's on the ounce because he
Speaker 3: gets his bestie to himself, telling you, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm gonna look for that. It's easy. He's
Speaker 2: easy to be friends with, he's popular, he's yeah, he's everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he always comes. He saves the day for
Speaker 3: Steve a lot, you know whatever. So in particular, I
Speaker 3: like the scene where Brandon comes in and Dylan's all
Speaker 3: drunk in asleep and he's like, get dressed, all be outside.
Speaker 3: It's very brotherly, but like with the authority that sort
Speaker 3: of someone needs over Dylan.
Speaker 1: In that moment in the situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was so distracted by their flannel though that
Speaker 3: I can't remember what transpired in that scene.
Speaker 1: I was distracted by the way, Yeah, Luke was so
Speaker 1: good at waking up like dear like he was so
Speaker 1: good at waking up in scenes always because it looks
Speaker 1: so real.
Speaker 3: On that note, I'd like to commend your fake eating
Speaker 3: with that ginormous sandwich. He never took a bias. It
Speaker 3: took like I thought it was a chip. Was it
Speaker 3: the lettuce? Yeah, you took like two bites, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't annoying because they didn't just keep showing the sandwich.
Speaker 3: You sort of backed up into the couch and then
Speaker 3: there was the makeout. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'll let it slide that she never took a bite of.
Speaker 2: It's odd because they used to give choices usually with
Speaker 2: food just to make sure you're okay with it, or
Speaker 2: maybe that came later in seasons we had more authority
Speaker 2: over the food props.
Speaker 1: But I could have never eaten a sandwich on camera.
Speaker 1: My TMJ was just forming at that stage, like just
Speaker 1: coming in hot right out. I had just gotten the
Speaker 1: TMJ and there's no chance of eating a sandwich like that.
Speaker 2: What about a salad? Like they didn't give like, hey
Speaker 2: do you want this or this? And you'd be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I want a salad, not like a sandwich in the seat.
Speaker 1: It never really ends up mattering because you don't eat it.
Speaker 3: A piece of pizza would be a little easier, maybe
Speaker 3: just you could take one bite of it.
Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows? What do you guys think of
Speaker 1: every every I think she better get my freaking bathrobe off.
Speaker 1: That's what I think, bitch be wearing my bathrobe?
Speaker 2: And because my man, what's that?
Speaker 3: Totally? Brother? Now, what did you think? Okay, speaking of
Speaker 3: when Dylan says, what are you doing here at two
Speaker 3: in the morning? And I think, hmm, a good point.
Speaker 3: Why would you go over there at two in the morning, Kelly?
Speaker 3: Where was she coming from?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Back?
Speaker 2: Off? She must have had a reason like her, Yeah, stopped.
Speaker 2: What do you mean? So Dylan called Kelly out for me, I.
Speaker 4: Like it, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Why is she there to am? I have no idea
Speaker 1: what was she going? Because she felt bad the way
Speaker 1: things were going down. She was worried about him. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stick with that.
Speaker 3: Too, And why would you go at two if you
Speaker 3: didn't want to hook up?
Speaker 1: I don't think she's looking Kelly Taylor.
Speaker 3: I mean, he sure said you did. And I was like,
Speaker 3: it never would have occurred to me. But he called
Speaker 3: it out, and I'm like, why is she there at
Speaker 3: two in the morning?
Speaker 1: Oh? That watching them those body shots?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Oh I hated that Hey did it?
Speaker 3: It was kind of wrap And he says, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry to harp on this, but he says, it doesn't
Speaker 3: take a psych class to figure out why you're here
Speaker 3: at two in the morning. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's explore this.
Speaker 2: This is all hypothetical. What if Kelly was there because
Speaker 2: she still has feelings for him? What if in that way,
Speaker 2: what would have happened?
Speaker 1: There would have been trouble in River City, bigger trouble
Speaker 1: than Brandon and and and Dylan already have.
Speaker 3: But he put the nail in the coffin by being
Speaker 3: not only like so gross with Eberley, but also so aggressive,
Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm so done with you bye.
Speaker 2: Everally looks very familiar.
Speaker 3: She was quite lovely, but I think it was also intentional.
Speaker 2: I can't find her name on our guest star lists.
Speaker 3: Who played Everly. Don't you think they also made her
Speaker 3: from the Valley on purpose? Eight one eight?
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, they wanted her insulting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the valley?
Speaker 3: But that's why they're telling you remember the movie.
Speaker 2: Valley Girl and like clueless, like you would never go
Speaker 2: to the valley?
Speaker 1: Like, no, it's not like that.
Speaker 2: Now the Valley is all the rage.
Speaker 3: Okay. They got the hip after the flower Shop because
Speaker 3: they did the five to five five, because remember they
Speaker 3: showed the flower Shop with the real phone number.
Speaker 2: Every sorry on.
Speaker 1: Sometimes in a relationship, that's what it takes, though, that
Speaker 1: that final straw, And maybe Dylan was doing that intentionally
Speaker 1: in some subconscious way, hmmm, because he knows that Kelly's
Speaker 1: better off with Brandon. I like that he wears.
Speaker 3: A robe like nobody's business though, because.
Speaker 1: It's like in an ugly robe, even like a most dude.
Speaker 2: Face a body, the whole thing, like nobody's business. It's
Speaker 2: just let's be real.
Speaker 3: I agree. I'm like they both are so hot.
Speaker 2: Wait, and remember I was all Brandon like season one.
Speaker 2: I was like, I've never known this. I'm now as
Speaker 2: a fangirl. And then I was like, oh, I'm not
Speaker 2: enjoying the Brandon of it all because of the hair
Speaker 2: and different things. And then he's back, So I'm full
Speaker 2: on Brandon and Dylan now like obsessive with both of them.
Speaker 2: They look great. Bye, David, Bye.
Speaker 1: We really need to talk about val coming out in
Speaker 1: her underwear. Oh my god, this was a big moment.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a bathing suit at first. It
Speaker 2: was so like coordinated.
Speaker 1: I was like, she was wearing heels, so epic. It's
Speaker 1: so epic the whole thing, and so nonchalant about it,
Speaker 1: very funny.
Speaker 2: It was definitely the amazing. She looks amazing. I'd love
Speaker 2: to give that a shout out, that her body looks gorgeous.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, I kind.
Speaker 3: Of agree that. Do you think they sort of because
Speaker 3: like they don't make you guys walk around in your underwear,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe a bathing siren on the show.
Speaker 2: She's the bad girl, she's a sex symbol, and.
Speaker 3: They sure threw her in her underwear real quick, really quick,
Speaker 3: same bra. Though it seemed like, as you guys flashed,
Speaker 3: just the.
Speaker 2: Black that's all that existed at that point in life.
Speaker 1: But I was like, Brandon, Brandon, pay to look to
Speaker 1: your left when he was on the phone, was like, look,
Speaker 1: there's a girl. There's a she's in her underwear. Turn
Speaker 1: turn and he never took him forever too.
Speaker 3: So what do you guys make of Valerie and Brandon
Speaker 3: and her like? And then she's in the pink satin
Speaker 3: robe and kind of standing there.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see them hook up. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. Is that wrong?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: I can't say that it's your boyfriend? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: is that gonna Happenry, No, it's your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: But but does that happen? You're not gonna tell me?
Speaker 2: This is spoiler.
Speaker 1: I want now please tell me, because.
Speaker 2: I mean, how old is he supposed to be at
Speaker 2: this point?
Speaker 1: How old?
Speaker 2: Like the card? Okay, an eighteen year old nineteen year
Speaker 2: old boy? I'm sorry, that's living night next door to
Speaker 2: you with a Jeff Jill connecting bathroom. I'm sorry, walking
Speaker 2: around in heels in a black stropolis braw and it's
Speaker 2: probably like, I don't know. Does she turned around? I
Speaker 2: did and see that bar. It was a g strength, No,
Speaker 2: it had it was French. Okay, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: it was. That's hard to resist. I'm sorry. He's just
Speaker 2: a young but it's who never does anything wrong, but
Speaker 2: he still has he still is feelings. She's Louise. That
Speaker 2: would be a hard one to turn down. She's making
Speaker 2: it real hard, which isn't nice of her.
Speaker 1: And not fast, like, yeah, she's not wasting any time.
Speaker 2: But they kissed me. Of course, She's probably always had
Speaker 2: a crush on him, and she's probably here and like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: this is perfect. I'm right here. I'm gonna get him.
Speaker 3: They sure like to show her pot cigarette. I don't
Speaker 3: know what you call that.
Speaker 1: She took one, but she never smoked it, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has one there and then she like put
Speaker 3: it in her cigarettes. I don't know. I was nervous
Speaker 3: Walsh's credit card. I thought she was really going to
Speaker 3: go to town on it. I was like, give her a
Speaker 3: spending limit at least something. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: what are you thinking of Valerie?
Speaker 2: Here's why I like her. She's a bad girl, but
Speaker 2: she doesn't play it. She has a genuine what's the word,
Speaker 2: like a nice heart quality coming through that makes her vulnerable.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well because she's very cute looking. She's so
Speaker 3: cute looking in the hair.
Speaker 2: She acts cute, you know, she Yeah, and you don't
Speaker 2: feel threatened by her, like yeah, you don't feel like
Speaker 2: there's a mean bone in her body. So you're like,
Speaker 2: okay that those are the types you don't see coming?
Speaker 2: Were you?
Speaker 3: And she sort of looked. There was this scene at
Speaker 3: the debutante party, I don't know what to call it,
Speaker 3: where she was real kind of cringey, nervous, and then
Speaker 3: someone brought her her drink and they were Brandon maybe
Speaker 3: came over and she's sort of relaxed. But I was like,
Speaker 3: are we supposed to like hmm, she was very you know,
Speaker 3: nervous or something.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice.
Speaker 3: It's right when she first gets there, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: what's she doing. I'm sort of ready for her to
Speaker 3: at any minute, like yeah, like the dark side is
Speaker 3: real buried, but it's coming.
Speaker 1: It's coming. You can tell it's coming.
Speaker 3: How do you all.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 3: How do you guys feel about the Jesse Andrea daycare
Speaker 3: baby dilemma?
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: Well. I mean I was thinking while I was watching it, like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what they get for, you know, getting pregnant
Speaker 1: and this is their life now. But I don't really
Speaker 1: as a especially if I were the age audience that
Speaker 1: was into our show, I would be like, why am
Speaker 1: I watching this? I don't care about these people and
Speaker 1: their baby, And.
Speaker 2: Right, that's all I met when I said I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm watching a teen show, Like at that point,
Speaker 2: that's not that stuff we think we deal with later.
Speaker 2: But I know it's a reality for teens. It happens,
Speaker 2: and obviously a good storyline. They were being topical and.
Speaker 1: It feels a little bit like a movie of the
Speaker 1: week messaging thing, like like a movie of the week
Speaker 1: where it's a teen pregnancy and you know how hard
Speaker 1: it is to be a teen mom.
Speaker 3: I'm much more into his bar stuff. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: he's very charming at the bar. He sort of has
Speaker 3: the run in with Dylan. I'm definitely noticing all the
Speaker 3: pretty ladies in the bar. Those scenes then like, poor
Speaker 3: Gabriella is giving her nothing to do, I mean, just
Speaker 3: like hold the baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like it though, how her body didn't go
Speaker 1: right back to what it was before pregnancy looks natural.
Speaker 1: I think we kind of talked about that last week.
Speaker 1: But the bar thing for me is weird because my
Speaker 1: husband owns a bar and he often works in it
Speaker 1: and you know, has to hold down for it and
Speaker 1: be a bartender sometimes. So I was it always on
Speaker 1: my head? Is that what it's like?
Speaker 2: It's not, but for no reason, A little bit it's.
Speaker 3: Too close for comfort, triggering.
Speaker 1: But for no reason because at Dave's bar, it's mostly
Speaker 1: just guys drinking beer and watching sports exactly, don't do anything.
Speaker 3: I have so many more questions about this episode. Did
Speaker 3: we think that this was the debut of the itty
Speaker 3: bitty backpack trend?
Speaker 1: Well, who had an itty bitty backpack?
Speaker 2: That's fine to say, you guys say it aty bitty backpack,
Speaker 2: itty bitty backpack.
Speaker 3: It's fun, right, that was a cute I saw that
Speaker 3: and was like, is this because right time we all
Speaker 3: started wearing itty bitty backpacks like all around college, and
Speaker 3: so I'm like, was this the debut of the Little
Speaker 3: Black backpack.
Speaker 1: Hmm, I think so maybe maybe twice.
Speaker 3: Shoot, you were it at the bank and then you
Speaker 3: wore it again, the little Black backpack.
Speaker 1: I was sad that Dylan never came. He said he
Speaker 1: was going to come, and he never came. He told
Speaker 1: Donna he would be there.
Speaker 3: That's when we got the like nine shots of the
Speaker 3: pool table. It was like he was gonna come.
Speaker 2: Dream episode coming soon?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's just all drunk again. Still at the end. Can
Speaker 3: we talk about that scene?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about? Amy?
Speaker 3: Wait? Say it again?
Speaker 2: Is the dream episode coming soon? That Dylan? I can't
Speaker 2: remember my dream episode? I can't remember what I do
Speaker 2: love though, And probably my favorite scene in this whole
Speaker 2: episode is the Dylan and Donna scene in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't like it? What's say it? Say?
Speaker 3: It's it?
Speaker 1: No, I was just remembering when I was watching it,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Oh, they like each other, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: very kindred little relationship. He's Cyril and on the show,
Speaker 1: you know, like you guys are so close in real life?
Speaker 3: Yea, did you have that similar relationship with Luke? He's
Speaker 3: so loving toward you in any.
Speaker 1: Left sorry, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhere in a brotherly brother Yeah that hand to flirt.
Speaker 3: There's just enough.
Speaker 2: But that was lit Luke, Like you know, he was
Speaker 2: always looking out for me, always worried. He was that
Speaker 2: one that would step in and, you know, do something
Speaker 2: if something wasn't going right. But also at the same time,
Speaker 2: you would like call me Cammell because he said I
Speaker 2: had the most beautiful sexy like lashes, long lashes. So
Speaker 2: but it wasn't a threatening sexual thing. It was just
Speaker 2: always like, oh, it means you feel good about yourself, like.
Speaker 3: And you really did the same in that scene, and
Speaker 3: I thought that was so important, Like you're like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I feel bad for you. I know how
Speaker 3: painful this is. Like we want you just come back
Speaker 3: to us. You don't. You're not just a wallflower like
Speaker 3: taking his compliments. You really stood up too, And that's
Speaker 3: why I love the relationship. It's very equal.
Speaker 2: That is so weird you say that because as soon
Speaker 2: as you said that, you know, when things just go
Speaker 2: come back to you. We had that in real life
Speaker 2: because I mean, I'm still trying to find my voice
Speaker 2: in life. But back then it was really hard for
Speaker 2: me to speak out. Donna speaks out way more than
Speaker 2: toy me back then, and Luke I was able to
Speaker 2: like we would have like things in life that he
Speaker 2: would be very adamant about, and I would actually talk
Speaker 2: back to him and say step where other people I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't comfortable.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. It's probably his nature to welcome that, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like he wasn't going to
Speaker 3: turn on you if you did that, which was exactly
Speaker 3: what I saw in the scene. You were able to
Speaker 3: say to each other the things that needed to be said,
Speaker 3: and him saying, Donna, you're not your mother, Like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I just that scene is so good. It's
Speaker 3: so good. And he's very like David Silver, David Silver,
Speaker 3: and he's like that's one dude, and fourteen thousand people
Speaker 3: at the school, like you're good. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just wo for me.
Speaker 1: I loved it, good big brotherly vibes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he was probably giving me the same
Speaker 2: advice to the boyfriend I had it in real life
Speaker 2: business probably around the same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, can I ask you guys about my random things?
Speaker 3: So Claire, we have the return of Claire and suddenly
Speaker 3: she's a sophomore.
Speaker 1: Oh convenient. Oh just like David. Though, just like David
Speaker 1: became a senior right with the group.
Speaker 3: Let people skip grades. Yeah. I also I had a
Speaker 3: red flag on the registering at the card tables because
Speaker 3: we didn't There was no internet at this point, but
Speaker 3: there was like technology, so we registered for classes. You
Speaker 3: had to use something called tell abear and you would
Speaker 3: have to call like a phone number, and then you
Speaker 3: would like enter in the classes you wanted. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if any schools were still at this time
Speaker 3: doing it like card table registration. I've never seen anything
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: We both went to college. On TV, you're asking a
Speaker 2: wrong to people. For all our listeners, Amy has a question.
Speaker 3: My favorite part is I love Kelly and Brandon are
Speaker 3: going to the registration and they're holding hands and they're
Speaker 3: walking up to some table. I don't know, maybe your
Speaker 3: psychology teacher. So then Kelly turns and immediately bumps into
Speaker 3: an extra you know in the scene that she fully
Speaker 3: knows just in the background, chummy chummy chummy with her,
Speaker 3: and then you even say call you later.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was all ad libbed, because it's very
Speaker 1: very awkward when you're in a scene and they, you know,
Speaker 1: say go when you walk away so we can still
Speaker 1: see you on camera, what are you supposed to do? Like,
Speaker 1: I had to fill those moments with something and better
Speaker 1: to be. Of course, Kelly has other friends than Donna
Speaker 1: and you know Steve and the group, so I'm sure
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just fill this up a little
Speaker 1: bit because it's so weird.
Speaker 3: Not too background actor probably like pooped their pants, like
Speaker 3: and she stopped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was good at it too. I feel i'm
Speaker 1: we might have been friends.
Speaker 3: Who knows like she's I'm in, I'm in, and then
Speaker 3: you give her the call you later and she gives
Speaker 3: you like a glance like you got it, like because.
Speaker 2: They can't say anything out loud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good. I'm like, oh my god, that was
Speaker 3: the epic h There was a lot of like Beverly Hills,
Speaker 3: Like I noticed it's right where Will sure kind of
Speaker 3: gets towards the Beverly Hilton, that walking path right there.
Speaker 3: We saw a lot of that. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: pool breaking that what is it called when you break
Speaker 3: the you know, the balls are all in their pie
Speaker 3: and then you you break them.
Speaker 2: Oh, game of pool.
Speaker 1: I was like, you break it, it's a break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But they did that like eight times. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: we get it. We're gonna see some pool.
Speaker 1: He really likes pool, you know.
Speaker 3: I to ask you guys, there's a gratuitous shot of
Speaker 3: the star Maps guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was that a real Star Maps guy or was that
Speaker 2: a person actor?
Speaker 3: Exactly? And has the Star Maps ever gotten any of
Speaker 3: your houses? Correct? Okay?
Speaker 2: So growing up, we the manor that we moved into wasn'
Speaker 2: until I was, you know, sixteen, but we lived on
Speaker 2: it's called Mapleton. We lived on North Mapleton in the
Speaker 2: house that my whole life. And outside of that, it
Speaker 2: was a driveway across the street, that corner of Sunset
Speaker 2: and Mapleton. Growing up, there was a Star Maps lady.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know what it was. I just, you know,
Speaker 2: growing up, I didn't know the difference, so I thought
Speaker 2: it was someone that just lived there. It was like
Speaker 2: a van, and it was always there, and she was
Speaker 2: always out on her little, you know chair that you'd
Speaker 2: put like a beach chair, little foldable chair, and she
Speaker 2: would sit there with the Star Maps waiting for people
Speaker 2: to come by.
Speaker 3: And are they out of business now?
Speaker 2: She became famous, she was like pretty famous. She was
Speaker 2: like the Beverly Hills bel air.
Speaker 1: For a while, they were on every corner, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then they became that. Yeah, now it's more like tour.
Speaker 1: Those tour buses are still just running rampant all of
Speaker 1: her Hollywood, the like double decker with the chopped off thing,
Speaker 1: completely unsafe, with the people on top just getting fried
Speaker 1: by the sun.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it, And I love pulling.
Speaker 1: Up next to one of them because this happens all
Speaker 1: the time to me, pull up next to one of
Speaker 1: those Star Tours vans and just think, like if they
Speaker 1: only knew, like who the people are that are next
Speaker 1: to them most of the time in LA and they're
Speaker 1: looking everywhere else, but.
Speaker 3: They may ever look.
Speaker 2: But when they do look like the same Jen, I
Speaker 2: always wave because I was like, you know what, what
Speaker 2: if there it's that one day they're driving and they
Speaker 2: don't see anybody and they might not know who I am,
Speaker 2: but for the off shot they're like, hey, we were
Speaker 2: nine on two and O fans. I'm just always like hi.
Speaker 3: That makes me want to rint you guys, A red
Speaker 3: BMW so bad that you could just like drive around it?
Speaker 3: Did you guys see Ian went to the beach house.
Speaker 2: He saw that. I saw that on his Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think he wrote something funny too, like anyone home,
Speaker 3: like something cute. I was like, I love him.
Speaker 1: Wait, we didn't talk about when Dylan came to the
Speaker 1: charity event. On the table, that was my favorite part.
Speaker 1: He went colunk on the table is a.
Speaker 3: Love that scenems so much. It was aggressive.
Speaker 1: It was aggressive.
Speaker 3: You were being all whispery and dirty like brand and
Speaker 3: then making out and then incomes dirty Dylan just all
Speaker 3: mad with his beer so good.
Speaker 1: It was really good, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And that you're right the dirty booths on their on
Speaker 3: their beautiful black and white tablescape, which I loved. The
Speaker 3: chairs in that party were no good, but the stable
Speaker 3: stage was beautiful. I loved a black and white tablecloth
Speaker 3: striped beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know what's weird about this whole storyline too, is
Speaker 1: that Dylan's he's mad that his best friend is taking
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, but he took broke up best friends, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Brendan Kelly. Yeah, it's like there,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, the hypocrisy is alive and well. And I
Speaker 3: also noticed in that scene the city. The city view,
Speaker 3: I think was like a poster taped on a stage
Speaker 3: wall because there was no lights like twinkling, there was
Speaker 3: no movement, Like I literally think that was You did
Speaker 3: not film that in a actual hotel room, you know, ballroom.
Speaker 3: That was a poster because changed in that background.
Speaker 1: Probably true. Yeah, yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I just want to talk about the dip. The audience
Speaker 3: demands a dip. She's the epitome of feminine grace.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I could go on and on, Amy, you really
Speaker 1: love this episode. I'm going to guess you give it
Speaker 1: like a nine.
Speaker 3: So I think I'm giving it like a ten out
Speaker 3: of ten. What It's one of the highest marks I've
Speaker 3: had in the whole series. There's something about this episode
Speaker 3: and sort of the change that's happening, you know what.
Speaker 1: I love it that you love it that much, And
Speaker 1: I love it that everybody has a different opinion, you know,
Speaker 1: a different favorite episode or a different like meaningful moment
Speaker 1: from the show. That's so cool. Never would I have
Speaker 1: thought that this would be your ten. But okay, Jen,
Speaker 1: what do you give it?
Speaker 2: I mean, I give.
Speaker 1: It like a seven.
Speaker 3: How about you.
Speaker 2: Close your ears ear muffs? I know you're gonna go Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to give it a nine and a half.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tory, thank you, thank you for the support.
Speaker 2: I just am so And it's not just because Donna
Speaker 2: did the you know, the Texas what is it, the Texas,
Speaker 2: the dip, the Texas toast, Donna does wish you do, damn.
Speaker 1: It, Donna dips it. Donna dips it.
Speaker 2: It's because I just love all the characters in this episode.
Speaker 2: I love fashion, I love this. It's moon a little faster.
Speaker 2: I am fully in. I'm scared after episode one and
Speaker 2: now I'm in it to it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, it does compel me to watch
Speaker 1: the next one, like I do want to see what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, so that that deserves higher than a seven.
Speaker 1: J I'm I'm gonna go eight.
Speaker 3: I go eight, yeah, because it makes you want to
Speaker 3: keep And then.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go nine because you're right, Donald was so
Speaker 1: freaking cute in this episode through a little hair doing
Speaker 1: that dress.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it nine, Jenny. I know we have
Speaker 3: to go, but like Brandon and Kelly are really good.
Speaker 3: They are so cute, They're really good. It's like I
Speaker 3: I'm just.
Speaker 2: In I'm feeling like stuff with Dylan and Kelly are coming, though.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We really, you don't know. We will see next week.
Speaker 3: She had like a message board where I could join
Speaker 3: everybody and talk about this.
Speaker 2: Do we have a reddit?
Speaker 3: Can set that up, but I'll just do it on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to reading on board.
Speaker 2: They have it for every nine.
Speaker 3: People. Too many people will say how much they hate me.
Speaker 2: On any stop that wasn't about you, Like it would
Speaker 2: be nice for the fans and for us to communicate
Speaker 2: on Reddit. Okay, sorry Jen?
Speaker 1: On that note, Yeah, next episode a clean slate.
Speaker 2: Jenn, He's like, thank god, a clean slate.
Speaker 1: Yes, episode three of season five, So do your homework.
Speaker 1: People watch it and we shall chat about it next
Speaker 1: week