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Play here and Sanches gets hit, 18 00:01:11,946 --> 00:01:14,946 Speaker 1: the ball is loose and It's alive and then going 19 00:01:14,986 --> 00:01:18,106 Speaker 1: into the inch on to Steve's Gregory, I have never 20 00:01:18,186 --> 00:01:21,426 Speaker 1: seen this before in my life. Watch this Vince Wilford 21 00:01:21,586 --> 00:01:25,146 Speaker 1: is gonna throw Brandon Moore back into his quarterback He's 22 00:01:25,186 --> 00:01:29,506 Speaker 1: gonna fumble of football. Mark Sanchez not expecting it, and 23 00:01:29,546 --> 00:01:32,786 Speaker 1: it was the backside of Brandon Moore to knock the 24 00:01:32,786 --> 00:01:40,866 Speaker 1: ball out of Wow. Yeah, the backside of Brandon More Sanchez. 25 00:01:40,906 --> 00:01:44,066 Speaker 1: I can close my eyes and still picture one of 26 00:01:44,106 --> 00:01:47,866 Speaker 1: the weirdest moments. I didn't necessarily shake the tail feather there, 27 00:01:47,866 --> 00:01:51,386 Speaker 1: but it is the butt fumble adity. That's one of 28 00:01:51,386 --> 00:01:54,546 Speaker 1: those moments that just lives in Thanksgiving football lore well, 29 00:01:54,586 --> 00:01:58,626 Speaker 1: and especially because it did indeed happen on Thanksgiving, Mike, 30 00:01:58,706 --> 00:02:03,266 Speaker 1: so everybody was watching it, and that, of course is 31 00:02:03,306 --> 00:02:07,106 Speaker 1: the topic of this episode of NFL Explained, not but 32 00:02:07,306 --> 00:02:12,986 Speaker 1: Fumbles Thanksgiving Football. I'm a Jedy Kinkabwala joined us always 33 00:02:12,986 --> 00:02:16,226 Speaker 1: by Mike. Yeah, you just gave our entire team a 34 00:02:16,346 --> 00:02:19,026 Speaker 1: great idea for a podcast down the road the weirdest 35 00:02:19,066 --> 00:02:21,706 Speaker 1: types of fumbles, and the butt one would certainly be 36 00:02:21,906 --> 00:02:24,266 Speaker 1: very high on the list. But you know, it's crazy 37 00:02:24,266 --> 00:02:26,706 Speaker 1: to me because you know, obviously it's Thanksgiving, people are 38 00:02:26,706 --> 00:02:29,746 Speaker 1: thinking about the family traditions, and it's hard for me 39 00:02:30,266 --> 00:02:34,826 Speaker 1: to not associate NFL football with Thanksgiving. I mean they 40 00:02:34,866 --> 00:02:37,586 Speaker 1: really do go completely hand in handed. Well, of course, 41 00:02:37,586 --> 00:02:39,466 Speaker 1: whether you're cooking or you're waiting for the food to 42 00:02:39,466 --> 00:02:41,906 Speaker 1: be put on the table, or you're just taking a 43 00:02:41,946 --> 00:02:45,906 Speaker 1: break between meal one and meal two. Of course it's 44 00:02:45,986 --> 00:02:48,026 Speaker 1: football that's on. You have the parade on in the morning, 45 00:02:48,066 --> 00:02:50,946 Speaker 1: and then it's all day of football, and we really 46 00:02:50,946 --> 00:02:54,146 Speaker 1: can't do Turkey Day without that celebratory Turkey leg at 47 00:02:54,146 --> 00:02:56,746 Speaker 1: the end of of course, the Lions game. But you 48 00:02:56,746 --> 00:02:59,386 Speaker 1: know that does actually beg the question as we get 49 00:02:59,386 --> 00:03:02,546 Speaker 1: started here, Mike, why is it the Lions and the 50 00:03:02,626 --> 00:03:06,826 Speaker 1: Cowboys who always play on Thanksgiving? Well, the rivalry games, 51 00:03:07,026 --> 00:03:09,026 Speaker 1: you actually have to it's not an NFL thing. It 52 00:03:09,066 --> 00:03:12,106 Speaker 1: was actually a high school and a college situation going 53 00:03:12,306 --> 00:03:15,346 Speaker 1: well back into the early nineteen hundreds. Because the league 54 00:03:15,386 --> 00:03:18,826 Speaker 1: started back in nineteen twenty, they just sort of followed suit. 55 00:03:19,106 --> 00:03:23,146 Speaker 1: And you asked the question about the Lions and the Cowboys, 56 00:03:23,146 --> 00:03:27,306 Speaker 1: and I think starting with the Lions is probably really important. Portsmith, Ohio, 57 00:03:27,466 --> 00:03:30,386 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty four. The legend goes you had a group 58 00:03:30,466 --> 00:03:33,426 Speaker 1: led by a radio station owner in George Richards, who 59 00:03:33,506 --> 00:03:37,186 Speaker 1: actually purchased the NFL's Ports Smith Spartans and actually moved 60 00:03:37,186 --> 00:03:40,626 Speaker 1: the franchise to Detroit and rename them the lines. If 61 00:03:40,626 --> 00:03:42,626 Speaker 1: it sounds familiar, it should because you are a loyal 62 00:03:42,666 --> 00:03:44,866 Speaker 1: listener of the NFL Explained podcast when we went through 63 00:03:45,146 --> 00:03:47,466 Speaker 1: some of those names. But at the time Adity and 64 00:03:47,506 --> 00:03:49,226 Speaker 1: I think this might have been your team that you 65 00:03:49,346 --> 00:03:53,626 Speaker 1: had discussed. Major League Baseball had their Detroit Tigers and 66 00:03:53,666 --> 00:03:56,386 Speaker 1: they were kind of the main attraction in the city. Remember, 67 00:03:56,426 --> 00:03:59,586 Speaker 1: back in the day, baseball was the national pastime at 68 00:03:59,666 --> 00:04:02,106 Speaker 1: that point. But Richards try to get a little bit 69 00:04:02,106 --> 00:04:05,386 Speaker 1: of a splashy draw for fans. Other NFL teams they 70 00:04:05,386 --> 00:04:09,226 Speaker 1: had played eat on Thanksgiving before ninety four, but the 71 00:04:09,306 --> 00:04:11,946 Speaker 1: Lions had a little bit of an edge, and for 72 00:04:12,026 --> 00:04:14,186 Speaker 1: a younger audience that's used to consuming a lot of 73 00:04:14,226 --> 00:04:17,706 Speaker 1: content on their phones and streaming services and multiple channels, 74 00:04:18,266 --> 00:04:22,586 Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily the case. Back in the early nineteen thirties. 75 00:04:22,826 --> 00:04:26,186 Speaker 1: Richards actually owned a radio station and made a deal 76 00:04:26,226 --> 00:04:30,226 Speaker 1: with NBC to broadcast the Thanksgiving game on ninety four 77 00:04:30,266 --> 00:04:34,146 Speaker 1: stations across the country. And here we go a d D. Now, 78 00:04:34,146 --> 00:04:35,746 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we got a new tradition that 79 00:04:35,826 --> 00:04:38,946 Speaker 1: just continued to last for a significantly long period of time, 80 00:04:38,986 --> 00:04:40,706 Speaker 1: which by the way, still goes on to this day. 81 00:04:40,786 --> 00:04:43,506 Speaker 1: And a part of launching that tradition is probably that 82 00:04:43,586 --> 00:04:47,266 Speaker 1: that first game was so amazing, Mike. The Lions sold 83 00:04:47,266 --> 00:04:49,906 Speaker 1: out their stadium, they turned people away at the gates, 84 00:04:49,946 --> 00:04:52,986 Speaker 1: and part of it is because the Lions were ten 85 00:04:53,066 --> 00:04:56,106 Speaker 1: and one and they were hosting the eleven and oh 86 00:04:56,346 --> 00:04:59,786 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, and so that was a matchup that to 87 00:05:00,026 --> 00:05:03,626 Speaker 1: this day features the most combined wins by two teams 88 00:05:03,626 --> 00:05:06,786 Speaker 1: heading into a Thanksgiving Day game. The Bears ultimately were 89 00:05:06,786 --> 00:05:09,226 Speaker 1: the ones that won. They stayed undefeated, and they did 90 00:05:09,266 --> 00:05:13,306 Speaker 1: win nineteen sixteen, and the Lines have played on Thanksgiving 91 00:05:13,546 --> 00:05:18,506 Speaker 1: every single year since then except for from nineteen thirty 92 00:05:18,546 --> 00:05:21,426 Speaker 1: nine to nineteen forty four. And part of that is 93 00:05:21,426 --> 00:05:24,906 Speaker 1: because there were no Thanksgiving Day games during World War Two, 94 00:05:25,026 --> 00:05:28,426 Speaker 1: which was nineteen one to nineteen. But do you know 95 00:05:28,506 --> 00:05:33,146 Speaker 1: this you talked about radio. The very first televised Thanksgiving 96 00:05:33,186 --> 00:05:37,666 Speaker 1: game was broadcast in nineteen fifty three. Originally it was 97 00:05:37,706 --> 00:05:40,906 Speaker 1: the Dumont Television Network and then three years later CBS 98 00:05:41,026 --> 00:05:44,866 Speaker 1: took over the broadcasts. You just mentioned Dumont Television Network, which, 99 00:05:44,866 --> 00:05:47,746 Speaker 1: by the way, I did not know existed at any point. 100 00:05:47,946 --> 00:05:50,466 Speaker 1: I actually grew up in Dumont, New Jersey, So if 101 00:05:50,506 --> 00:05:53,506 Speaker 1: we're talking about Thanksgiving Day traditions, I do have a 102 00:05:53,546 --> 00:05:55,746 Speaker 1: little bit of a flashback. Now it's becoming a little 103 00:05:55,746 --> 00:05:58,586 Speaker 1: bit of a full circle conversation as we're discussing this 104 00:05:58,666 --> 00:06:02,226 Speaker 1: Lions team. But it's interesting. Marketing once again a major 105 00:06:02,306 --> 00:06:06,106 Speaker 1: theme when it comes to pushing the NFL even its 106 00:06:06,146 --> 00:06:09,746 Speaker 1: early stages as a league, and certainly on Thanksgiving Day. 107 00:06:09,826 --> 00:06:12,266 Speaker 1: But while we covered the Lions, I think there's still 108 00:06:12,306 --> 00:06:15,866 Speaker 1: some questions about the Cowboys, America's team right, sort of 109 00:06:15,906 --> 00:06:18,546 Speaker 1: fitting that they would be playing on Thanksgiving Day. But 110 00:06:18,586 --> 00:06:22,386 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six, the general manager Tech Tram actually 111 00:06:22,386 --> 00:06:27,306 Speaker 1: saw an opportunity once again national spotlight to play on Thanksgiving. Yes, 112 00:06:27,346 --> 00:06:30,186 Speaker 1: the Lions had filled their stadiums, but for Dallas kind 113 00:06:30,186 --> 00:06:31,626 Speaker 1: of wondering like, hey, are you gonna be able to 114 00:06:31,666 --> 00:06:34,386 Speaker 1: do the same thing in the sixties. So Tram actually 115 00:06:34,426 --> 00:06:36,466 Speaker 1: signed the Cowboys up, saying, you know what, we'll roll 116 00:06:36,506 --> 00:06:38,306 Speaker 1: the dice will figure this thing out, and hopefully the 117 00:06:38,306 --> 00:06:40,786 Speaker 1: fans will show up a d D no surprise to 118 00:06:40,826 --> 00:06:43,706 Speaker 1: any of us, Yes they did. The team actually broke 119 00:06:44,146 --> 00:06:47,866 Speaker 1: it's attendance record over eighty thousand people. Cotton Bowl. Here 120 00:06:47,866 --> 00:06:50,986 Speaker 1: we go, Cowboys. They took out the Browns to four 121 00:06:51,026 --> 00:06:52,586 Speaker 1: team and then all of a sudden, you get a 122 00:06:52,626 --> 00:06:57,146 Speaker 1: second Thanksgiving tradition that is born. So since nineteen sixty six, 123 00:06:57,226 --> 00:07:01,386 Speaker 1: the Cowboys they've missed hosting Thanksgiving games only twice. That 124 00:07:01,466 --> 00:07:05,546 Speaker 1: was in nineteen seventy seven the NFL. They chose the 125 00:07:05,906 --> 00:07:10,306 Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals as the second host. That didn't necessarily go well. 126 00:07:10,346 --> 00:07:13,226 Speaker 1: They got taken out by Buffalo in v five and 127 00:07:13,226 --> 00:07:15,826 Speaker 1: then in seventy six they faced the Cowboys and Dallas 128 00:07:16,066 --> 00:07:19,986 Speaker 1: they lost that one again, so in seven it was 129 00:07:20,066 --> 00:07:22,826 Speaker 1: sort of a rap. At that point, Dallas was able 130 00:07:22,826 --> 00:07:25,186 Speaker 1: to continue to host the Cardinals. By the way, they 131 00:07:25,226 --> 00:07:29,706 Speaker 1: all had six touchdown passes to Dolphin's quarterback Bob Greasy 132 00:07:29,786 --> 00:07:33,466 Speaker 1: in a loss. Greasy's six scores are matched only by 133 00:07:33,826 --> 00:07:36,466 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, who's pretty good. Last time I checked, tied 134 00:07:36,546 --> 00:07:39,946 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving record in two thousand four. By the way, 135 00:07:39,986 --> 00:07:42,306 Speaker 1: as I'm mentioning Greasy's name, I'm starting to think about 136 00:07:42,426 --> 00:07:44,386 Speaker 1: his son who's now calling Monday night games, and thinking 137 00:07:44,386 --> 00:07:47,306 Speaker 1: back to our Monday night football episode the history of 138 00:07:47,426 --> 00:07:49,906 Speaker 1: that game, So if you've missed that on NFL Explained, 139 00:07:50,026 --> 00:07:51,706 Speaker 1: feel free to go back and check that one out. 140 00:07:51,826 --> 00:07:54,546 Speaker 1: Still one of my favorite episodes that we've done so far, 141 00:07:54,706 --> 00:07:57,706 Speaker 1: but those six touchdowns certainly impressed it by Greasy matched 142 00:07:57,706 --> 00:08:00,546 Speaker 1: by Manning. And while that was happening in the mid seventies, 143 00:08:00,786 --> 00:08:03,066 Speaker 1: a guy named O. J. Simpson actually broke the NFL 144 00:08:03,146 --> 00:08:08,106 Speaker 1: single game rushing record against the Lion in nineteen seventy six. 145 00:08:08,426 --> 00:08:11,306 Speaker 1: And if you don't necessarily believe this, trust me that 146 00:08:11,386 --> 00:08:15,226 Speaker 1: this is true. Buffalo actually lost that game to fourteen 147 00:08:15,466 --> 00:08:19,506 Speaker 1: quarterback Gary Moran. She actually went four for one with 148 00:08:19,706 --> 00:08:23,986 Speaker 1: twenty nine passing yards, a d D. That is not 149 00:08:24,066 --> 00:08:25,626 Speaker 1: going to get it done if you want to win 150 00:08:25,626 --> 00:08:28,226 Speaker 1: a football game, Crazy Mike, because you'd sort of think 151 00:08:28,266 --> 00:08:31,826 Speaker 1: that O. J. Simpson's two hundred and seventy three yards 152 00:08:32,146 --> 00:08:35,346 Speaker 1: could have gotten a ton in any case. From nineteen 153 00:08:35,386 --> 00:08:39,466 Speaker 1: seventy to two thousand five, three NFC teams and one 154 00:08:39,586 --> 00:08:43,946 Speaker 1: a f C team played every single Thanksgiving. Detroit has 155 00:08:44,026 --> 00:08:47,026 Speaker 1: always played the early game, followed by Dallas in the 156 00:08:47,106 --> 00:08:50,266 Speaker 1: late afternoon, and the Lions get the only game because 157 00:08:50,306 --> 00:08:52,786 Speaker 1: of course of time zones, a twelve thirty pm Eastern 158 00:08:52,826 --> 00:08:55,666 Speaker 1: kickoff time would be eleven thirty in Dallas, and you 159 00:08:55,666 --> 00:08:57,786 Speaker 1: don't want to kick off before noon on a holiday 160 00:08:57,786 --> 00:09:01,186 Speaker 1: in Dallas. And the first game starts at that special 161 00:09:01,226 --> 00:09:04,146 Speaker 1: time of twelve thirty instead of the usual one pm, 162 00:09:04,186 --> 00:09:06,946 Speaker 1: just because it gives an extra thirty minutes to prevent 163 00:09:07,026 --> 00:09:10,426 Speaker 1: any sort of overlap into the late game in case 164 00:09:10,466 --> 00:09:13,506 Speaker 1: there is indeed overtime. I love, from a TV perspective, 165 00:09:13,546 --> 00:09:17,186 Speaker 1: how we plan accordingly, but we are just getting underway 166 00:09:17,226 --> 00:09:20,106 Speaker 1: here a d D on the NFL Explained podcast. In fact, 167 00:09:20,266 --> 00:09:23,426 Speaker 1: when you think about traditions, yeah, football on Thanksgiving is 168 00:09:23,426 --> 00:09:25,706 Speaker 1: certainly a part of that. 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This is a 201 00:11:07,986 --> 00:11:10,386 Speaker 1: tur ducan right here where we got you know what 202 00:11:10,466 --> 00:11:13,306 Speaker 1: a tur ducan is a tur ducan? This thing here 203 00:11:13,346 --> 00:11:17,506 Speaker 1: is a dbone duck stuffed in a debone chicken stuffed 204 00:11:17,506 --> 00:11:20,866 Speaker 1: in a debone turkey we're stuffing now you're talking. And 205 00:11:20,906 --> 00:11:23,546 Speaker 1: that has eight legs. Sam, you just kind of cut 206 00:11:23,546 --> 00:11:25,146 Speaker 1: this right down in the middle and then you cut 207 00:11:25,186 --> 00:11:27,466 Speaker 1: sideways and you get a little turkey and a little 208 00:11:27,586 --> 00:11:29,666 Speaker 1: chicken and a little duck. Now that's there. That that's 209 00:11:29,706 --> 00:11:32,826 Speaker 1: tur ducan. Then over there we have the turkeys. You know, 210 00:11:32,906 --> 00:11:35,826 Speaker 1: here's a turkey. We got one leg, two legs, three legs, 211 00:11:35,866 --> 00:11:39,026 Speaker 1: four legs, five leg six legs, so six of these 212 00:11:39,106 --> 00:11:40,746 Speaker 1: legs are one of these legs are two of these 213 00:11:40,746 --> 00:11:43,226 Speaker 1: six legs are going to be given to someone. I mean, 214 00:11:43,266 --> 00:11:45,306 Speaker 1: whoever you want to give them to. What do you want? 215 00:11:45,506 --> 00:11:48,626 Speaker 1: It's a voice that every football fan knows very well, 216 00:11:48,906 --> 00:11:52,386 Speaker 1: John Madden giving us some of those lighthearted moments as 217 00:11:52,426 --> 00:11:55,226 Speaker 1: a broadcaster a d D. I am thinking back to 218 00:11:55,586 --> 00:11:58,186 Speaker 1: that episode about Monday Night Football, and you would ask 219 00:11:58,226 --> 00:12:00,626 Speaker 1: me a question about the big time broadcasters and who 220 00:12:00,626 --> 00:12:02,826 Speaker 1: you think about. Madden for me is still sort of 221 00:12:02,826 --> 00:12:05,226 Speaker 1: the football soundtrack for me as a kid, and I 222 00:12:05,346 --> 00:12:08,466 Speaker 1: still think about some of those moments he had on 223 00:12:08,506 --> 00:12:10,866 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day and and really just sort of the fun 224 00:12:10,946 --> 00:12:14,226 Speaker 1: that they had even after games because in nine d 225 00:12:14,306 --> 00:12:16,026 Speaker 1: D and you probably remember this really well, just like 226 00:12:16,106 --> 00:12:17,866 Speaker 1: I do. You just kind of watching this thing unfold 227 00:12:17,866 --> 00:12:21,346 Speaker 1: over the years. But Madam actually awarded the first Turkey 228 00:12:21,426 --> 00:12:24,426 Speaker 1: Leg Award for the game's most valuable player. It was 229 00:12:24,466 --> 00:12:28,386 Speaker 1: an actual cook turkey leg. Um. These dudes are big guys, man. 230 00:12:28,466 --> 00:12:30,826 Speaker 1: I remember Eagles defensive end Reggie White. He won the 231 00:12:30,866 --> 00:12:32,986 Speaker 1: award and just was kind of a start about it, 232 00:12:33,026 --> 00:12:36,266 Speaker 1: like just chopping away at these massive legs. Is just 233 00:12:36,306 --> 00:12:38,866 Speaker 1: an image that I think every football fan thinks about 234 00:12:38,866 --> 00:12:41,266 Speaker 1: when it comes to Turkey Day football. Well, I can 235 00:12:41,306 --> 00:12:44,546 Speaker 1: tell you this. Every Thanksgiving Day game I've done, there 236 00:12:44,546 --> 00:12:48,226 Speaker 1: have indeed been turkey legs. And I'll tell you this twice. 237 00:12:48,826 --> 00:12:53,026 Speaker 1: I covered the third Thanksgiving Day game that was introduced 238 00:12:53,026 --> 00:12:56,506 Speaker 1: in two thousand six and it is still played today. Initially, 239 00:12:56,546 --> 00:12:59,106 Speaker 1: it was our very own NFL network that aired those 240 00:12:59,106 --> 00:13:01,706 Speaker 1: primetime games. They did so from two thousand six to 241 00:13:01,786 --> 00:13:05,346 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, but NBC bought the rights to the 242 00:13:05,466 --> 00:13:08,346 Speaker 1: third game of the day beginning in two thousand and twelve. 243 00:13:08,786 --> 00:13:11,746 Speaker 1: That was just in time for about thirty million people 244 00:13:11,786 --> 00:13:16,506 Speaker 1: to see Mark Sanchez run into his teammates. But that 245 00:13:16,746 --> 00:13:21,706 Speaker 1: same year, but fumble. Now, having said that, Mike, there's 246 00:13:21,746 --> 00:13:25,466 Speaker 1: only one team that's never played on Thanksgiving, Go ahead, 247 00:13:25,506 --> 00:13:27,306 Speaker 1: give it a guess. I'm gonna say it's probably a 248 00:13:27,306 --> 00:13:29,546 Speaker 1: team that's played a whole lot of international games, just 249 00:13:29,626 --> 00:13:34,626 Speaker 1: kind of you looked at Chancer, Mike, cheating, cheating, cheating. Yes, 250 00:13:34,666 --> 00:13:37,746 Speaker 1: that is correct, it's the Jaguars that have never played 251 00:13:37,746 --> 00:13:39,826 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. Hey, since you've covered a lot of these 252 00:13:39,826 --> 00:13:42,506 Speaker 1: games on Thanksgiving Day, what's the vibe with some of 253 00:13:42,546 --> 00:13:45,386 Speaker 1: these players, Because we take for granted we're spending time 254 00:13:45,386 --> 00:13:47,466 Speaker 1: with our families watching these games, and here it is 255 00:13:47,466 --> 00:13:51,066 Speaker 1: they're preparing for their actual work and working on a holiday. 256 00:13:51,306 --> 00:13:54,826 Speaker 1: Do the players themselves sort of enjoy the eyeballs on 257 00:13:54,826 --> 00:13:56,746 Speaker 1: on their games and knowing it's a holiday game, or 258 00:13:56,946 --> 00:13:58,866 Speaker 1: do you think that they would rather kind of be 259 00:13:58,906 --> 00:14:01,826 Speaker 1: at home just watching. I think football season is so 260 00:14:02,026 --> 00:14:05,666 Speaker 1: unusual in the sense that you have to sort of 261 00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:10,106 Speaker 1: fake days all the time. You know, when Christmas falls 262 00:14:10,186 --> 00:14:13,586 Speaker 1: on a Sunday, or for instance, this year, Christmas is 263 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:15,866 Speaker 1: a Saturday, so half the teams will be traveling on 264 00:14:15,946 --> 00:14:19,146 Speaker 1: Christmas Day or busy in meetings. You do Christmas on Friday, 265 00:14:19,266 --> 00:14:21,986 Speaker 1: or you do Christmas on Monday, something like that. So 266 00:14:22,506 --> 00:14:26,106 Speaker 1: I think it's a bigger deal to play in front 267 00:14:26,106 --> 00:14:28,386 Speaker 1: of everybody. It's just like everybody told us in our 268 00:14:28,386 --> 00:14:31,226 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football episode, right Mike, that all of the 269 00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:34,826 Speaker 1: eyeballs in the country are on you, your peers, your colleagues, 270 00:14:34,866 --> 00:14:39,146 Speaker 1: your competitors, and there's is, indeed something special in that, 271 00:14:39,226 --> 00:14:41,626 Speaker 1: and those games definitely have a different energy. It's almost 272 00:14:41,666 --> 00:14:45,106 Speaker 1: like a playoff feel, simply because not everybody's playing at 273 00:14:45,106 --> 00:14:48,506 Speaker 1: the same time. You know, we started the show hearing 274 00:14:48,546 --> 00:14:51,266 Speaker 1: the call for the butt fumble, we heard John Madden. 275 00:14:51,506 --> 00:14:55,386 Speaker 1: Anything that resonates for you, these moments, these big time 276 00:14:55,546 --> 00:14:58,146 Speaker 1: epic moments on Thanksgiving Day that sort of stand out 277 00:14:58,186 --> 00:15:00,346 Speaker 1: to you over the years. Well, of course, the leon 278 00:15:00,506 --> 00:15:02,706 Speaker 1: let goof. I mean, doesn't that have to actually be 279 00:15:02,866 --> 00:15:07,586 Speaker 1: number one? Fifteen seconds left, the Cowboys lead when the 280 00:15:07,626 --> 00:15:11,266 Speaker 1: Dolphins kicker lines up for a forty one yard field 281 00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:16,026 Speaker 1: goal and it's blocked. Leon Lett thought that he needed 282 00:15:16,026 --> 00:15:19,306 Speaker 1: to recover the ball, so he goes chasing after it. 283 00:15:19,666 --> 00:15:22,226 Speaker 1: He slips, he falls into it. He makes it a 284 00:15:22,266 --> 00:15:26,466 Speaker 1: live ball, and then Miami ends up recovering it on 285 00:15:26,546 --> 00:15:30,266 Speaker 1: the one yard line. The Dolphins get another chance at 286 00:15:30,266 --> 00:15:33,906 Speaker 1: a field goal. This time it works. The Dolphins win, 287 00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:40,906 Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose, and Mike Thanksgiving history is made. The 288 00:15:40,946 --> 00:15:51,426 Speaker 1: whole What the Cowboys wind about a world of a 289 00:15:51,586 --> 00:15:55,946 Speaker 1: collage player touched the ball and the dwindle and recovered it. 290 00:15:56,146 --> 00:15:58,226 Speaker 1: It's on the one yard line. It's not in the 291 00:15:58,386 --> 00:16:00,906 Speaker 1: end zone. It's in the one yard line. They're gonna 292 00:16:01,706 --> 00:16:05,666 Speaker 1: and there's three seconds left on the car ninety two. Joel, 293 00:16:05,786 --> 00:16:10,066 Speaker 1: We're Getcher's hand up in the air optab seven. J 294 00:16:10,386 --> 00:16:14,706 Speaker 1: Jones somewhat touches a football here. What's what happens? It's 295 00:16:14,826 --> 00:16:20,866 Speaker 1: Leon left no who was haunted by a Super bowls play? 296 00:16:22,026 --> 00:16:29,266 Speaker 1: What Leon let down? Wamp wamp just like the butt fumble, Mike, 297 00:16:29,346 --> 00:16:32,706 Speaker 1: a very very memorable moment. And Mike, part of why 298 00:16:32,906 --> 00:16:37,226 Speaker 1: they are going so crazy is because just ten or 299 00:16:37,266 --> 00:16:42,506 Speaker 1: eleven months before, in January, in the Super Bowl, Leon 300 00:16:42,706 --> 00:16:45,546 Speaker 1: Lett had recovered a fumble on the Dallas thirty five 301 00:16:45,626 --> 00:16:48,466 Speaker 1: yard line. He ran it all the way back towards 302 00:16:48,506 --> 00:16:51,386 Speaker 1: the end zone. When he reached the ten yard line, 303 00:16:51,506 --> 00:16:58,066 Speaker 1: he slowed down, he started showboating, and Don Biby knocked 304 00:16:58,106 --> 00:17:01,626 Speaker 1: the ball out. It was basically one of the biggest 305 00:17:01,786 --> 00:17:05,066 Speaker 1: gaffs in the Super Bowl, and so here he was 306 00:17:05,146 --> 00:17:09,106 Speaker 1: having another their moment just like that. Yeah, the fans 307 00:17:09,146 --> 00:17:10,946 Speaker 1: certainly getting on him a little bit. They did win 308 00:17:11,066 --> 00:17:13,986 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, so I guess all ends well and 309 00:17:14,066 --> 00:17:16,626 Speaker 1: what could have been a disastrous moment. But for as 310 00:17:16,746 --> 00:17:19,426 Speaker 1: much as that's kind of a low light, I think 311 00:17:19,506 --> 00:17:21,426 Speaker 1: there's been some highlights that we can focus in on 312 00:17:21,546 --> 00:17:24,586 Speaker 1: from Thanksgiving days well. And if we're going to talk highlights, 313 00:17:24,626 --> 00:17:26,626 Speaker 1: then we definitely have to talk Randy Moss. In the 314 00:17:26,666 --> 00:17:34,546 Speaker 1: revenge game, right, Cowboys showing glitz Minnesota, Randy Moss recks 315 00:17:34,546 --> 00:17:37,226 Speaker 1: a tackle and Randy Moss races down the sideline and 316 00:17:37,386 --> 00:17:40,706 Speaker 1: Randy Boss just outruns everybody into the end zone. It 317 00:17:40,866 --> 00:17:45,426 Speaker 1: is incredible. Randy Moss has three catches today and three touchdowns. 318 00:17:45,946 --> 00:17:51,986 Speaker 1: I'm happy Thanksgiving spectacular. Randy Moss was a highlight every 319 00:17:52,066 --> 00:17:53,786 Speaker 1: time he touched that ball. And that actually was his 320 00:17:53,946 --> 00:17:58,226 Speaker 1: rookie season. Are you kidding me? On a Thanksgiving Day 321 00:17:58,306 --> 00:18:00,226 Speaker 1: to be able to put up a performance like that? 322 00:18:00,426 --> 00:18:03,666 Speaker 1: Three catches a buck sixty three, the three scores that 323 00:18:03,746 --> 00:18:07,266 Speaker 1: you heard John Madden make reference to against a Dallas 324 00:18:07,346 --> 00:18:10,146 Speaker 1: team who, by the way, passed on him in the 325 00:18:10,266 --> 00:18:13,426 Speaker 1: draft a DD There was a buzz surrounding Randy Moss 326 00:18:13,746 --> 00:18:16,186 Speaker 1: around the draft about some off field issues and the 327 00:18:16,226 --> 00:18:18,506 Speaker 1: Cowboys that you know what, let's pump the brakes. We're 328 00:18:18,546 --> 00:18:20,986 Speaker 1: not going to go in draft Moss, and at least 329 00:18:21,026 --> 00:18:24,266 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Day, that ended up being not the best situation, 330 00:18:24,546 --> 00:18:26,706 Speaker 1: clearly not you know what else was not a great 331 00:18:26,786 --> 00:18:31,066 Speaker 1: situation on Thanksgiving Day. The very first Thanksgiving Day game 332 00:18:31,146 --> 00:18:34,826 Speaker 1: that I ever covered two thousand thirteen a f C 333 00:18:35,026 --> 00:18:41,306 Speaker 1: North rivals Pittsburgh at Baltimore Standard. Incredibly close game, all 334 00:18:41,426 --> 00:18:47,746 Speaker 1: sorts of intrigue, especially when Baltimore kick returner Jacoby Jones 335 00:18:48,506 --> 00:18:51,786 Speaker 1: gets the kick, seemingly has a pass to the end 336 00:18:51,906 --> 00:18:56,506 Speaker 1: zone and Mike Tomlins slides just a lit little too 337 00:18:56,626 --> 00:19:00,746 Speaker 1: close to the sideline, es its drift at the goal 338 00:19:00,826 --> 00:19:08,106 Speaker 1: one by Jones. Coby Jones gets by season and taken 339 00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:11,426 Speaker 1: down at the twenty seven yard line only courked Is 340 00:19:11,586 --> 00:19:18,586 Speaker 1: Alan stood between Jones and the goal line touched a 341 00:19:18,786 --> 00:19:22,626 Speaker 1: saving tackle. Well, here we go. Here's tom went over here. Obviously, 342 00:19:22,866 --> 00:19:26,586 Speaker 1: Kobe Jones there and Tomlin is essentially on the field 343 00:19:26,706 --> 00:19:29,746 Speaker 1: here and you just wonder he's trying to get out 344 00:19:29,746 --> 00:19:33,506 Speaker 1: of the way there. But did that force Jacobe Jones 345 00:19:33,586 --> 00:19:37,426 Speaker 1: the lean back into the tackle by Cortes Alan. I 346 00:19:37,506 --> 00:19:40,386 Speaker 1: don't want to in any way say that was something intentional, 347 00:19:40,466 --> 00:19:42,426 Speaker 1: but if he had picked off the official on that 348 00:19:42,546 --> 00:19:45,666 Speaker 1: play or touched the player either way, that's a big penalty. 349 00:19:45,906 --> 00:19:49,106 Speaker 1: You can see he kind of did forced Jacoby Jones 350 00:19:49,186 --> 00:19:52,986 Speaker 1: back into the field a little mission accomplished almost and 351 00:19:53,306 --> 00:19:57,506 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin did indeed get fined for that. He claimed 352 00:19:57,546 --> 00:20:00,586 Speaker 1: he was just looking at the video board, but um, 353 00:20:01,106 --> 00:20:05,026 Speaker 1: you know you can see the video. Que it up. Uh, 354 00:20:05,386 --> 00:20:07,906 Speaker 1: go to YouTube to check that one out. Really nice 355 00:20:07,946 --> 00:20:09,746 Speaker 1: to kind of go down memory lane. There is one 356 00:20:09,786 --> 00:20:12,386 Speaker 1: other moment that sort of stands out to me. Tom Brady, 357 00:20:12,746 --> 00:20:15,146 Speaker 1: for all the things that he's been able to accomplish, 358 00:20:15,226 --> 00:20:18,786 Speaker 1: a perfect passer rating is something that he's done multiple times, 359 00:20:18,826 --> 00:20:21,186 Speaker 1: in fact, just two times in his career, but one 360 00:20:21,226 --> 00:20:24,346 Speaker 1: of those actually happened on a Thanksgiving Day was twenty 361 00:20:24,426 --> 00:20:29,706 Speaker 1: one yards and four touchdowns, a one fifty eight point 362 00:20:29,866 --> 00:20:33,066 Speaker 1: three Patriots win. That was the rating of Patriots win 363 00:20:34,946 --> 00:20:37,666 Speaker 1: over the Lions. And when I think about numbers like 364 00:20:37,986 --> 00:20:40,626 Speaker 1: that a d D, I start thinking about records that 365 00:20:40,746 --> 00:20:44,786 Speaker 1: have occurred on a Thanksgiving Day game. They're sub that 366 00:20:44,866 --> 00:20:48,066 Speaker 1: are just so spectacular, so eye opening. We have to 367 00:20:48,186 --> 00:20:50,186 Speaker 1: share them with you. That's coming up next on the 368 00:20:50,306 --> 00:20:58,786 Speaker 1: NFL Explained podcast. This podcast is sponsored by Kindrel. Kindrel 369 00:20:58,866 --> 00:21:03,386 Speaker 1: Designs builds, manages, and modernizes the mission critical technology systems 370 00:21:03,466 --> 00:21:06,306 Speaker 1: that the world depends on every day. We're side by 371 00:21:06,346 --> 00:21:09,866 Speaker 1: side with their customers. They imagine things differently by forging 372 00:21:09,946 --> 00:21:14,026 Speaker 1: new strategic partnerships. They unlock new possibilities, creating a world 373 00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:18,266 Speaker 1: powered by healthy digital systems. Align with opportunity, oxygen to 374 00:21:18,346 --> 00:21:22,226 Speaker 1: innovation and energy to change the world. 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There were some records 384 00:21:59,866 --> 00:22:02,826 Speaker 1: that to me stood out. Earning Nevers is one of 385 00:22:02,866 --> 00:22:05,946 Speaker 1: the guys that accumulated just some ridiculous numbers and act 386 00:22:05,986 --> 00:22:08,986 Speaker 1: in one game in particular, nineteen forty nine, I think 387 00:22:09,026 --> 00:22:11,186 Speaker 1: this is a record that's never gonna get touched again. 388 00:22:11,506 --> 00:22:14,946 Speaker 1: He accounted for all forty points in a Chicago Cardinals 389 00:22:15,066 --> 00:22:18,226 Speaker 1: victory over the Chicago Bears. Forty points. The dude scored 390 00:22:18,306 --> 00:22:21,906 Speaker 1: six touchdowns and kicked four p e t s And 391 00:22:22,026 --> 00:22:25,106 Speaker 1: at this point it is still a record that I 392 00:22:26,146 --> 00:22:29,066 Speaker 1: think is just insanely impressive. What happened to the other 393 00:22:29,146 --> 00:22:31,186 Speaker 1: two p s. It's a good call. I don't know 394 00:22:31,306 --> 00:22:35,666 Speaker 1: what happened, um right, I know, I was just gonna say, like, 395 00:22:35,706 --> 00:22:39,666 Speaker 1: why was the two to count for forty points? It's 396 00:22:39,706 --> 00:22:42,306 Speaker 1: the most points ever scored by one player in a 397 00:22:42,386 --> 00:22:44,426 Speaker 1: team's victory in a single game. To me, that just 398 00:22:44,506 --> 00:22:46,306 Speaker 1: sort of stands out. We won't have to talk about 399 00:22:46,306 --> 00:22:48,386 Speaker 1: some of those other p e T s that he missed. Uh. 400 00:22:48,546 --> 00:22:50,906 Speaker 1: We mentioned Randy Moss and we heard the calls and 401 00:22:50,986 --> 00:22:53,066 Speaker 1: the fact that he had a buck sixty three and 402 00:22:53,306 --> 00:22:56,426 Speaker 1: three touchdowns for the Vikings. Troy Aikman, it was in 403 00:22:56,546 --> 00:22:59,106 Speaker 1: that game for the Cowboys. He actually threw for the 404 00:22:59,146 --> 00:23:02,866 Speaker 1: most passing yards on a Thanksgiving Day game, four hundred 405 00:23:02,906 --> 00:23:06,746 Speaker 1: and fifty five. His Cowboys lost that matchup, and the 406 00:23:06,786 --> 00:23:09,586 Speaker 1: most receiving guards on a Thanksgiving Day game. Just in 407 00:23:09,666 --> 00:23:14,786 Speaker 1: case you're wondering, Jim Benton three hundred and three against 408 00:23:14,826 --> 00:23:17,986 Speaker 1: the lines as a member of the Rams. Add you've 409 00:23:18,026 --> 00:23:20,026 Speaker 1: mentioned this a couple of times in this podcast. You've 410 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:23,466 Speaker 1: talked about covering some of these Thanksgiving Day games. Any 411 00:23:23,626 --> 00:23:25,666 Speaker 1: memory that stands out the most, Well, the first one, 412 00:23:25,786 --> 00:23:27,626 Speaker 1: I'll go back to that the we talked about it 413 00:23:27,786 --> 00:23:30,226 Speaker 1: in terms of Mike Tomlin and Jacobe Jones. That was 414 00:23:30,306 --> 00:23:35,226 Speaker 1: two thirteen. It was my first Thanksgiving as a married woman, 415 00:23:35,546 --> 00:23:41,906 Speaker 1: and the Baltimore Ravens, unbelievably generously of them credentialed my husband, 416 00:23:42,426 --> 00:23:45,786 Speaker 1: who became a tech on our crew. So Lisa Edwards, 417 00:23:45,826 --> 00:23:48,666 Speaker 1: our producer, did indeed put my husband Matt to work. 418 00:23:48,826 --> 00:23:52,586 Speaker 1: But the backstory here, Mike, is that Matt is a 419 00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:57,146 Speaker 1: lifelong Steelers fan. He put himself on the season ticket 420 00:23:57,226 --> 00:24:00,186 Speaker 1: waitlist when he was eleven years old, sat on that 421 00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:03,026 Speaker 1: wait list for twenty one years. You know, he's the 422 00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:05,146 Speaker 1: guy who goes sits in a dark corner when the 423 00:24:05,186 --> 00:24:08,506 Speaker 1: Steelers is whatever, and now here it is Steelers at Ravens, 424 00:24:08,746 --> 00:24:12,146 Speaker 1: unbelievably close game. At the very end of the game, 425 00:24:12,626 --> 00:24:16,226 Speaker 1: he is on the field with our cameraman and our 426 00:24:16,306 --> 00:24:19,866 Speaker 1: audio person and our producer pulling cable doing whatever it 427 00:24:19,986 --> 00:24:22,306 Speaker 1: is a tech does, which are of course valuable things, 428 00:24:22,426 --> 00:24:27,146 Speaker 1: but helping out. And the Steelers are down eight. They 429 00:24:27,186 --> 00:24:29,186 Speaker 1: need a touchdown and they need a two point conversion. 430 00:24:29,946 --> 00:24:32,506 Speaker 1: So Ben Roethlisberger leads the Steelers down in a drive. 431 00:24:32,546 --> 00:24:35,106 Speaker 1: They've got a you know, I think at that point 432 00:24:35,186 --> 00:24:37,466 Speaker 1: it was like a second intent. Maybe I think it 433 00:24:37,546 --> 00:24:41,626 Speaker 1: was second town on the Baltimore twenty. And Ben Roethlisberger 434 00:24:41,986 --> 00:24:44,826 Speaker 1: hits Heath Miller for what everybody thinks is a touchdown, 435 00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:48,466 Speaker 1: and Matt's like, oh my gosh. Remember he's a fan, 436 00:24:48,666 --> 00:24:51,306 Speaker 1: but he's supposed to be a member of the working press, 437 00:24:51,386 --> 00:24:54,306 Speaker 1: so he's not allowed to be excited. Only that Heath 438 00:24:54,346 --> 00:24:56,946 Speaker 1: Miller touchdown was deemed not a touchdown. So the Steelers 439 00:24:56,986 --> 00:24:59,026 Speaker 1: have a first and goal at the Baltimore one. Levy 440 00:24:59,066 --> 00:25:01,026 Speaker 1: on Bell runs, he doesn't get in. Levy on Bell 441 00:25:01,186 --> 00:25:04,306 Speaker 1: runs again he seemingly does score, but then the replay 442 00:25:04,306 --> 00:25:07,666 Speaker 1: assistant reverses it. Then on third down, Ben Roethlisberger throws 443 00:25:07,666 --> 00:25:10,226 Speaker 1: the past two I believe the fullback that fall short. 444 00:25:10,626 --> 00:25:14,586 Speaker 1: Then Ben Roethlisberger on fourth and goal from the Baltimore 445 00:25:14,706 --> 00:25:19,506 Speaker 1: one down eight hits Jericho Cotchery for a touchdown. And 446 00:25:19,586 --> 00:25:22,226 Speaker 1: it's a classic Raven Steelers game where it didn't matter 447 00:25:22,306 --> 00:25:24,066 Speaker 1: anything that happened before you knew. It was like a 448 00:25:24,106 --> 00:25:25,706 Speaker 1: basketball game. It was going to come down to the 449 00:25:25,786 --> 00:25:30,146 Speaker 1: last few minutes and then ultimately the Steelers didn't get 450 00:25:30,186 --> 00:25:33,066 Speaker 1: the two point conversion. But it was just this insane 451 00:25:33,466 --> 00:25:36,826 Speaker 1: end to a game. And like I said, my husband 452 00:25:36,866 --> 00:25:39,666 Speaker 1: got to be a part of the crew and be 453 00:25:39,826 --> 00:25:41,266 Speaker 1: on the field for that, and it was kind of 454 00:25:41,346 --> 00:25:46,946 Speaker 1: a very very neat, professional, personal, amazing game, great energy 455 00:25:47,506 --> 00:25:51,866 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night, and also personal. My husband got to experience 456 00:25:51,986 --> 00:25:54,466 Speaker 1: that and see what my job is like. And one 457 00:25:54,546 --> 00:25:59,466 Speaker 1: other little footnote to that Jacoby Jones was my postgame interview. 458 00:26:00,066 --> 00:26:03,906 Speaker 1: He had been handed a turkey leg by the NBC 459 00:26:04,186 --> 00:26:08,506 Speaker 1: crew and he offered me a bite, and I'm a vegetarian, 460 00:26:08,666 --> 00:26:12,746 Speaker 1: so I recoiled and I said no, thank you. And 461 00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:15,266 Speaker 1: someone from the Associated Press got a photo of that 462 00:26:15,466 --> 00:26:18,106 Speaker 1: of me making a nasty face at the turkey leg 463 00:26:18,226 --> 00:26:21,706 Speaker 1: that Jacoby Jones was devouring. I did see the photo. 464 00:26:21,946 --> 00:26:25,066 Speaker 1: It is spectacular, and I'm glad you were able to 465 00:26:25,226 --> 00:26:28,666 Speaker 1: weave in the personal with the professional because earlier in 466 00:26:28,746 --> 00:26:31,506 Speaker 1: this episode, I had asked you what the players think 467 00:26:31,506 --> 00:26:33,666 Speaker 1: about playing on Thanksgiving when all of us are with 468 00:26:33,746 --> 00:26:35,146 Speaker 1: our families, and you said, hey, you know a lot 469 00:26:35,186 --> 00:26:37,466 Speaker 1: of buyeballs on the game, and they certainly know that 470 00:26:37,586 --> 00:26:40,026 Speaker 1: it's really big. And you had said something that really 471 00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:41,626 Speaker 1: struck me, and it reminds me of some of the 472 00:26:41,666 --> 00:26:44,706 Speaker 1: Thanksgivings that I've had when you are fortunate enough to 473 00:26:44,786 --> 00:26:48,586 Speaker 1: have family members that are caring and understand the schedules 474 00:26:48,626 --> 00:26:50,946 Speaker 1: that come with working in sports, and sometimes you don't 475 00:26:50,986 --> 00:26:54,066 Speaker 1: do Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving Day, you don't do Christmas sometimes 476 00:26:54,186 --> 00:26:56,946 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. And for all those years that I 477 00:26:57,026 --> 00:27:00,066 Speaker 1: had worked at ESPM, I'm a studio guy, like you're 478 00:27:00,066 --> 00:27:01,826 Speaker 1: an ACE reporter, You're always out in the field, you're 479 00:27:01,866 --> 00:27:03,986 Speaker 1: covering these games. I was always sort of chained to 480 00:27:04,066 --> 00:27:06,626 Speaker 1: the desk in the studio and I always work Thanksgiving, 481 00:27:06,706 --> 00:27:10,186 Speaker 1: And it's like having two different families because my my 482 00:27:10,346 --> 00:27:13,266 Speaker 1: family like family, we would always do Thanksgiving on a 483 00:27:13,386 --> 00:27:15,186 Speaker 1: day when I was working at ESPAN that was just 484 00:27:15,346 --> 00:27:17,546 Speaker 1: not Thanksgiving. Wherever it kind of fit in. It might 485 00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:19,626 Speaker 1: be earlier, it might be a day or two late, 486 00:27:19,946 --> 00:27:22,506 Speaker 1: but we would always have Thanksgiving at the office with 487 00:27:22,666 --> 00:27:26,066 Speaker 1: our studio crew together. So those moments always resonate with me. 488 00:27:26,266 --> 00:27:28,426 Speaker 1: But you know, we relived some of those moments from 489 00:27:28,466 --> 00:27:30,786 Speaker 1: my childhood, like games in the eighties and the early nineties, 490 00:27:30,826 --> 00:27:33,106 Speaker 1: like I wasn't working at the time, and I do 491 00:27:33,266 --> 00:27:35,906 Speaker 1: think back. My mom is a casual sports fan or 492 00:27:36,026 --> 00:27:38,266 Speaker 1: on the baseball side. My dad is not a sports fan, 493 00:27:38,626 --> 00:27:41,346 Speaker 1: but my grandfather was a die hard sports fan. So 494 00:27:41,466 --> 00:27:43,786 Speaker 1: I can remember all of these games. We mentioned, some 495 00:27:43,906 --> 00:27:45,986 Speaker 1: of the records, We talked about some of the you know, 496 00:27:46,066 --> 00:27:48,466 Speaker 1: the John Madden and the turkey legs and the extra 497 00:27:48,586 --> 00:27:50,266 Speaker 1: legs that were on that turkey, which I was thought 498 00:27:50,306 --> 00:27:52,066 Speaker 1: was kind of freaky. When I was a kid watching 499 00:27:52,226 --> 00:27:54,146 Speaker 1: them being rolled out. But I do think about some 500 00:27:54,226 --> 00:27:57,306 Speaker 1: of those moments with my family, specifically my grandfather. I 501 00:27:57,466 --> 00:27:59,986 Speaker 1: was a huge sports fan, and I think on a 502 00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:03,026 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving episode, I think anyone who's listening that is a 503 00:28:03,026 --> 00:28:05,666 Speaker 1: football fan, hopefully you're going to have some of those 504 00:28:05,786 --> 00:28:07,706 Speaker 1: same experiences a d D that you and I have 505 00:28:07,786 --> 00:28:10,426 Speaker 1: been able to have over the course of our lives, 506 00:28:10,466 --> 00:28:12,866 Speaker 1: and hopefully a lot more of those as well. But 507 00:28:12,946 --> 00:28:15,066 Speaker 1: it's always awesome to kind of weave in sports with 508 00:28:15,226 --> 00:28:18,946 Speaker 1: family because a sports fans, we obviously appreciate some of that, 509 00:28:18,986 --> 00:28:20,626 Speaker 1: and I think if you're listening to this podcast you 510 00:28:20,746 --> 00:28:23,386 Speaker 1: probably do as well. It's been a fun one, Mike, 511 00:28:23,506 --> 00:28:26,146 Speaker 1: I have to say, it's fun to think about Thanksgiving, right. 512 00:28:26,546 --> 00:28:28,786 Speaker 1: You can a d D for you who doesn't eat turkey, 513 00:28:28,866 --> 00:28:31,306 Speaker 1: You can never go wrong with a whole lot of ams. 514 00:28:31,706 --> 00:28:35,306 Speaker 1: Just letting you know, Oh you've been waiting all episode 515 00:28:35,346 --> 00:28:38,306 Speaker 1: for that one. Everybody, thank you so much for joining us. 516 00:28:38,826 --> 00:28:43,026 Speaker 1: Find us wherever you find your podcast, rate review, send 517 00:28:43,106 --> 00:28:45,426 Speaker 1: us messages on what else you'd like us to hit, 518 00:28:45,626 --> 00:29:01,626 Speaker 1: and Mike, that is Thanksgiving Football explained. 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