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Speaker 3: You will remember that was that? Wasn't that? Was it?

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Speaker 3: What was her name?

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Speaker 4: Something Quinn medicine, medicine doctor, the medicine woman or something

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Speaker 4: a something Quinn at the same doctor Quinn un We

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Speaker 4: were on our way, We were on our way, Alex, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just remember her.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't that the same lady that was in Hangover the

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Speaker 3: Wasn't her? Alex? Yeah? It's in color. That's why Rob

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Speaker 3: Parker's never heard of it.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Hey, And I do want to say, can

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Who we shouting to our big boss from Premiere, Julie Talbot,

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Speaker 3: Give it up for yes. And Julie is She's one

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Speaker 3: And she has been so sweet, so kind.

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Speaker 5: Uh you know how some people I think you'll get

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Speaker 5: what I mean by this unusually kind like man, you

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Speaker 3: She is so nice.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I gave her an odd couple hoodie,

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Speaker 3: It was really nice, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 5: The woman has a good taste. Now, come on, now

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Speaker 5: she knows what to listen to. Yeah, no, no, Congrats

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Speaker 5: to her and that's a big honor. And of course

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Speaker 5: as well. And one day, man, you might you gotta

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll see what happens. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You know, listen this man, I am the ultimate lebron Al.

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Speaker 5: Put the camera on me, put the camera, put the microphone,

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Speaker 3: I got something to say. Rob Parker has been doing

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Speaker 5: He's been in market, at the market, big market, small market.

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Speaker 3: National, doesn't matter. He's done it all. Get the man

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Speaker 3: Very nice, Alex. That was all right on Tom. That's

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Speaker 5: Sorry, go ahead, Clinton Kershaw, Clinton Kershaw, Yeah, Man, tonight

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Speaker 3: It better be to night?

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Speaker 5: He only needs three rock If the night is three

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Speaker 1: And you know that you've been around here and the

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Speaker 3: Two World Series. Now right, I mean like Kershaw does

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Speaker 1: So he's got two World Series and his earn run

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Speaker 1: he finally won in twenty twenty, where he was and.

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Speaker 3: He was a part of it.

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Speaker 1: He pitched well in beating Tampa Bay in that World

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Speaker 3: It was very strange. I was there, was very.

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Speaker 3: But they won.

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Speaker 1: And I still think that that held to erase all

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Speaker 1: when I look at Clayton Kershaw and his legacy, I'm

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Speaker 5: And I think that's clear cut in It's one of

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Speaker 5: is when everyone agrees that not a single person undermines

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Speaker 5: how great he is not even me. Yeah, not even you,

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Speaker 5: and I don't even know who you are right now.

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Speaker 5: I thought I was getting ready to have to hear Alex.

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Speaker 5: I thought I was gonna hear wan wah wah wah

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Speaker 5: That's what I thought I was about to hear. But

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Speaker 5: what you're saying. So Clayton Kershaw, I think is even

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Speaker 5: go looking at it from a basketball standpoint. He was

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Speaker 5: But man, is it underwhelming. In the playoffs. Something just

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Speaker 5: isn't right. It's not clicking. And clay Clayton's has a

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Speaker 5: It's four point four to nine in the postseason and

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Speaker 5: You know, I get it. And that has been the problem.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't just simply Rob that, hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: Even Dodger fans who love and adore the man and

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Speaker 5: And so that became the thing for him. It happened

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Speaker 3: You also remember that astro they meant death to twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: That's when I won the Jordan's from Chris. That was

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Speaker 3: the one when are you perked up?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'll never forget that one because Kershaw. And that's

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Speaker 1: when the Nationals went on to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Serious, who is that one? Every time we turned around

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Speaker 5: he was giving up a home run. It was like,

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Speaker 5: was that the Washington Nationals with that one in twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 5: twenty seventeen was a different one there. But my point is, yeah,

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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen when you're talking, but he just had these

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Speaker 3: I think of clacking Kershaw. And so for him and.

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Speaker 3: So I do believe there will be a talent and a.

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Speaker 3: Cappen, no, sir and dode.

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Speaker 5: Minute you brought up schoobl you can also bring up

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Speaker 5: He had two hundred and eighty strikeouts last year's in

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying, but of and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: I disagree, all right? Eight seven seven ninety nine on

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Speaker 1: What is Clayton Kershaw's legacy to you?

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Speaker 1: In the postseason one of the all time greats of

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Speaker 1: I say yes. Where you will continue that conversation next

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Washington, stick and strike out and stay I mean.

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Speaker 5: All right, Clint Kershaw, Robin and I simple question his legacy.

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Speaker 5: Some people look at it as one of the greats

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Speaker 3: Rob says yes. I say no, because.

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Speaker 5: At some point we're gonna have robots that are gonna

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Speaker 3: Who knows what we'll get at to that point, Rob,

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Speaker 1: We got might get more strikeouts because all you gotta

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Speaker 3: The corners, you know what I'm saying? All right? Eight

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, thanks for protecting my call.

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Speaker 3: How's it going doing great? Help you have a great

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Speaker 8: So about Clayton Kershaw for me, very underwhelming, great longevity,

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Speaker 1: Oh see here here's and I hear that, and I do,

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Speaker 3: I'm about I'm about.

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Speaker 1: The postseason, I am, but he did win. I like,

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Maybe one. Bond's number one. Nobody stops him.

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Speaker 3: Or only three playoff games, right exactly.

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Speaker 5: So, I think baseball is a little bit different. Casey why.

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Speaker 5: I totally get your point, and I'm not mad at that,

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Speaker 5: but I think it's a little different.

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Speaker 1: Andrew in Bakersfield, California, You're on the a couple of

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Dre? I mean, Drew, what's up?

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Speaker 9: Guys? I'm a diehard Dodgers fan, and there's two jerseys.

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Speaker 9: I want Oral Hersheiser and Clayton Kershaw.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then shot to my guy Oral.

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Speaker 9: And then in closing, how many strikeouts did bum Gardner happen?

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Speaker 3: I have to look that.

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Speaker 10: Up, all right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he was white hot in the postseason. It

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Speaker 5: ain't heard from him since the postseason.

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Speaker 3: He was special. I mean, Gines won three World Series.

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Speaker 1: I mean I get that, and those moments and the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: wo pet it well on that team and Mariano and

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Speaker 1: all that.

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Speaker 3: I do get all that and you.

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Speaker 1: Remember those moments. But Clayton, if you just look at

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Speaker 1: his resume, he just he did a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: that people just didn't do. And it feels like he's

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Speaker 1: forty and he's not even old, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like that's.

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Speaker 3: Not he doesn't he thirty seven. I think it is. Hey, hey, Bo,

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Speaker 3: Bo was the resident Dodger guy.

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Speaker 1: He has a podcast, bo jump in here where you

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Speaker 1: on Clayton Kershaw and tell everybody your Dodger podcast.

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Speaker 11: You can find me myself, Ryan Berschger Monciy Bolonnios at

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Speaker 11: the Dodgers Own podcast. We're talking about the Dodgers every week.

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Speaker 3: I never missed the Dodgers Zone pot.

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Speaker 11: For reference, Clayton Kershaw has more than doubled Madison Bumgardner's

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Speaker 11: career war So it's not even close. It's not a

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Speaker 11: Clayton ks is the greatest picture of this generation. I

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Speaker 11: don't want to for anybody else like that's not nobody

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Speaker 11: comes to even just him winning an MVP. Like maybe

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Speaker 11: there's an argument for Verlander, but like Kershaw is just

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Speaker 11: flat out better. And I think it's it's kind of

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Speaker 11: set in tonight how much Kershaw means to the Dodgers

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Speaker 11: overall as well, Like I think he's the greatest ever

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Speaker 11: wear the uniform personally, Like I've now watched his entire career,

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Speaker 11: uh take place with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a now that that's interesting. What you Jackie Robinson? Right?

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Speaker 1: I know, tough, but no, no, no, But you don't

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Speaker 1: need to You don't need to have watched Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 1: And I always say this to you, and I get

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Speaker 1: you know that you watched Kershawn and as a kid

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and watched his whole career.

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Speaker 3: But we didn't see Babe Ruth play.

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Speaker 1: We didn't see certain people play, and you still know

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Speaker 1: like their impact.

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Speaker 3: And I know that this was a thing with.

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Speaker 1: Ben Erlander where he thought the old Taani signing was

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Speaker 1: the greatest signing.

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Speaker 3: In the history of the Dodgers, and people pumped the

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Speaker 3: brakes on that one, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying as far as where

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Speaker 1: he ranks, But if you talk about the Los Angeles Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: nobody's ahead of Jackie rob.

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Speaker 11: The one thing I will say in Kershaw's defense is

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Speaker 11: when people bring up the postseason stuff, there were some

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Speaker 11: unfortunate moments of his own, but also a lot of

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Speaker 11: guys have that, Like Schuzers postseason record sucks, Verlander's posseason

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Speaker 11: record sucks because everything you do there is magnified. But

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Speaker 11: Kershaw also got left out to dry a ton. There

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Speaker 11: are so many times where you know, the manager decided

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Speaker 11: to bring in Pedro Bias in relief and would proceed

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Speaker 11: to give up a three run jack, and that goes

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Speaker 11: to Kershaw, even though it should not, It shouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 11: go to But you got.

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Speaker 3: To remember that one against the Nationals. You don't forget that.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that was bad.

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Speaker 3: That was the worst one. People were streaming out of

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Speaker 3: Dodgers Stadium. You remember it was so bad?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because in that if I'm right, Bo, the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers were up two to zero in that series, correct,

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Speaker 1: and the lost lost the last three, including Game five

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Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium, and Kershaw gave up.

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Speaker 5: Oh shuts, Rob, you just put your shoes up on

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Speaker 5: front of the camera right now. You just want to

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Speaker 5: talk about the Jordans you got, I'm sorry this serious?

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Speaker 3: There? Yeah? Yeah, stop it right there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, but I gat he's universally one of

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Speaker 5: those guys everybody loves, so congratulate him.

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Speaker 3: Will see if he gets it.

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Speaker 5: In a little bit, we got Sam Quinn, CBS Sports

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Speaker 5: NBA reporter in just a moment.

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Speaker 3: It is the odd couple.

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Speaker 5: Robin Kelvin on a worship Wednesday, joined now by Sam Quinn,

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Speaker 5: CBS Sports NBA reporter Sam Quinn, CBS on X Sam.

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Speaker 3: What's up then? How you doing?

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Speaker 6: I'm good.

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Speaker 10: It's been a busier few days than I thought.

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Speaker 6: You know, like early in that period.

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Speaker 10: On Monday, I was like, so it's gonna be a done,

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Speaker 10: isn't it right? We're gonna get a couple of mid levels.

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Speaker 10: That's gonna be that? And then the Bucks said.

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Speaker 6: No, no, we're actually gonna give you plenty to talk about.

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Speaker 6: So here we are.

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Speaker 3: I want to start right there with the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how surprised, shock were you said they were

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Speaker 1: gonna eat one hundred and thirteen million dollars till Dame,

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Speaker 1: thank you, we have rehab in Hawaii with all your.

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Speaker 3: Money and keep going wild. Shock Will you buy that?

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Speaker 10: It was about as surprised as I've been by a

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Speaker 10: free agency move in a long time. I mean, the

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Speaker 10: cash cost is considerable here, but like just apply it

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Speaker 10: to Miles Turner where you say they're gonna pay him

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Speaker 10: twenty seven million a year, and they're gonna pay twenty

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Speaker 10: two million on top of that to free up the contract.

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Speaker 10: That basically treats Miles Turner like he's a MAX player.

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Speaker 10: Miles Turner's very good, He's never made an All Star team.

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Speaker 10: He's uniquely valuable to them because they need the shooter

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Speaker 10: next to Jannest. But like, the risk here is really considerable.

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Speaker 10: They have to feel very confident that this is going

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Speaker 10: to a piesy honest. And if that's the case, like

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Speaker 10: they don't have any guards, right, they have a lot

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Speaker 10: more work to do. I wonder if they can take

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Speaker 10: like their twenty thirty one first round pick attached to

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Speaker 10: Kyle Kuzma, go get a guard, Like, get somebody else

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Speaker 10: who can dribble on this team, that would be nice, get.

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Speaker 6: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think that that has to be the case.

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Speaker 1: Kuzma's got to be on the outs, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't see him staying there.

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Speaker 6: The thoughts that I have is could they go to Boston?

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Speaker 10: Who has Andrey Simon's who I don't know if they're

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Speaker 10: planning to keep makes a little bit more this year

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Speaker 10: than Kuzma does. Kuzma has the second year. Could get

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Speaker 10: build a swap around those two guys, so Boston can

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Speaker 10: free up a little bit more money, try to resign

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Speaker 10: out Orford. That's something I've had in the back of

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Speaker 10: my mind. You got to get a garden here somewhere,

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Speaker 10: right because they've had Littard in the last two years,

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Speaker 10: and they had Drew before that. They had Chris Middleton

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Speaker 10: when they were at their absolute peak. Janis having a

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Speaker 10: shooting center is nice. He also needs another high end scorer.

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Speaker 10: There's no one else on this team that I look

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Speaker 10: at and I say, he can get you twenty twenty

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Speaker 10: two a game. And I know that's overly simplistic most

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Speaker 10: of the time. I don't know as excited as I

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Speaker 10: would be statistically for Gianna's playing point guard, I don't

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Speaker 10: think that's really a recipe to like win at the

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Speaker 10: highest level. You got to have another garden there somewhere.

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Speaker 10: I hope they can go out and find him. I'm

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Speaker 10: also kind of thinking about this like I'm gonna get

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Speaker 10: into like some forty chests here they know, hypothetically, or

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Speaker 10: you think it's a possibility that Jannis might ask for

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Speaker 10: the trade if the deadline or in a year, well,

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Speaker 10: at that point you're gonna be so bad for so

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Speaker 10: many years, they're gonna be rebuilding that having that dead

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Speaker 10: cap hit from Lillard on your books, it almost doesn't matter.

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Speaker 10: But at least at that point you could then trade

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Speaker 10: Miles Turner and get more stuff for him, or you

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Speaker 10: could trade him with Giannis to the same team, because

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Speaker 10: they fit together so well that maybe you go distract

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Speaker 10: more in the package. So I'm thinking about this as

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Speaker 10: like a forty chess thing where I'm like, this could

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Speaker 10: go really really badly. I completely see that, but as

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Speaker 10: far as keeping Gianna Is happy, it probably bought them

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Speaker 10: a few months at least, and then longer term, I

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Speaker 10: think they could at least flip Turner if.

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Speaker 6: They had to.

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Speaker 10: So I don't think it's as apocalyptic as some people

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Speaker 10: are making it out to be, but it's a very

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Speaker 10: risky thing to do.

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Speaker 6: We've never seen a team do this before.

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Speaker 3: Me let me the news of the day too.

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Speaker 1: And I know we started with the Bucks, but Mike Brown,

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Speaker 1: I think that the Knicks thought they were getting Larry

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Speaker 1: Brown and said they got Charlie Brown. But anyway, where

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Speaker 1: are you on Mike Brown. I just I'm underwhelmed. I'm

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Speaker 1: not moved. I just I know he's a good coach,

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Speaker 1: but this seemed weird to me.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I personally my opinion was they should have

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Speaker 10: hired James Barrego, and maybe they'll get him as an assistant.

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Speaker 10: I would feel a little bit better about it if

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Speaker 10: that was the case. But like, for what it's worth,

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't judge Mike Brown too harshly based on what

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Speaker 10: happened in Sacramento, because, like, nobody succeeded in Sacramento, right,

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Speaker 10: he wanted coach of the Year.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 10: You think the Kings to the playoffs. Then you move

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Speaker 10: on to an Eastern Conference Finals caliber roster, you think

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Speaker 10: you're like, Okay, that's much more to work with. At

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Speaker 10: least he's not like the splashiest higher but like he's

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Speaker 10: gone deep into the playoffs before, he's used to the

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Speaker 10: pressuries coach Lebron, he's coached Kobe. I think he's a

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Speaker 10: fine hire, and I think there's a lot of like

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of talk right now, but oh, is

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Speaker 10: he better than Timbeau's he worth?

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Speaker 6: My thing is I.

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Speaker 10: Think there's real benefit in just having a different voice.

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Speaker 10: I think where they were they had kind of hit

633
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Speaker 10: his ceiling. And that's not because the roster had capped out.

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Speaker 10: It's because they had a coach who refused to experiment right.

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Speaker 10: He didn't change his lineups during the regular season. They

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Speaker 10: never settled on an identity. You know, Mike Brown known

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Speaker 10: for practicing a lot. I think that's going to be

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Speaker 10: beneficial for them as they try to figure out like

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Speaker 10: who they are.

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Speaker 6: Are they this.

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Speaker 10: Five out spacing team that has Towns at center and

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Speaker 10: they really lean into offense. If that's the case, do

643
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Speaker 10: you start Duce McBride over Josh rt, do you go

644
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Speaker 10: double big? Do you start Mitchell Robinson like they did

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Speaker 10: late in the playoffs. I don't think they ever really

646
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Speaker 10: figured out who they were, and I think bringing in

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Speaker 10: an outside voice, even if it's not like a superstar coach,

648
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Speaker 10: could at least help you figure that out because he's

649
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Speaker 10: going to come in with new ideas about how to

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Speaker 10: maximize the talent in the building. So I don't know,

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Speaker 10: it's not like you're hiring Phil Jackson in two thousand.

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Speaker 10: It's not like you're getting you know, a proven, obvious

653
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Speaker 10: Sandles of caliber, coach, You're getting a new voice, and

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Speaker 10: I think there's benefits to that.

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Speaker 5: We up against he got about a committed or two

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Speaker 5: here CBS Sports NBA report of Sam Quinn with the

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Speaker 5: odd couple. Uh, let me go to the back to

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Speaker 5: the Western Conference here, and I want to go to

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Speaker 5: the Dallas Mavericks. A lot of people are going crazy.

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Speaker 5: They love this Maverick team and they're going to the finals.

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Speaker 5: We've had guess who have put them in the Western

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Speaker 5: Conference finals? Some say the finals. I still don't like

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Speaker 5: it because the two main stars you have, one is injured,

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Speaker 5: one is often injured in Anthony Davis, and I just

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Speaker 5: can't get with you if that's the case.

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Speaker 3: Whose side are you on? You more on my side?

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Speaker 5: Or are some of the people who were eager to

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Speaker 5: put them in the Western Conference finals and maybe even

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Speaker 5: the finals.

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Speaker 10: They're a playing team, they have one healthy guard, Like,

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Speaker 10: how are you putting them in the Western Conference finals?

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Speaker 10: You think they're they're gonna win it enough regular season

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Speaker 10: games without Kyrie to get a decent seed.

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Speaker 6: They're not.

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Speaker 10: With D'Angel Russell. They're gonna, like, you know, maybe be

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Speaker 10: like a forty five win team something like that. You'd

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Speaker 10: be a playing team. Maybe you get Kyrie back, but

678
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Speaker 10: net from there. But okay, fine, now you're going to

679
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Speaker 10: be a seven or eight seed. Play Oklahoma City in

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Speaker 10: the first round, or Houston in the first round, or

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Speaker 10: Denver or whoever. Like I just know, Oh, I'm not

682
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Speaker 10: a big fan of that team. I think it's really unbalanced.

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Speaker 10: I think they're really passing up an opportunity here to

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Speaker 10: trade their veterans at the peak of their value so

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Speaker 10: they can actually rebuild around Cooper Black. This gift from

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Speaker 10: the basketball gods that they've been given, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't see it.

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Speaker 10: Like if once Kyrie torres ACL that's like he might

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Speaker 10: come back this season.

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Speaker 6: He's not gonna be one.

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Speaker 10: Hundred percent this season. My thought was that was the

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Speaker 10: sign from the universe that you guys should just tear

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Speaker 10: it down and rebuild. They're not going to do that, though,

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Speaker 10: Nico Harrison's ego is too big for that, So I

695
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Speaker 10: guess we're doing this.

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Speaker 6: They're going to be a playing team.

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Speaker 10: Like God, let you.

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Speaker 3: They're the opposite of the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: The Lakers have no bigs, not well, got eighten, but

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Speaker 5: they have all the bigs.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, you know, and we got to real.

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Speaker 1: Quick the Lakers, real quick. We got one minute. Just

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Speaker 1: what are they doing? A lot of people were all

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Speaker 1: in on Lebron and Luca.

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Speaker 11: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I don't see anybody out west that I like better

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Speaker 1: than that pair. They get knocked out in the first round,

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Speaker 1: and it don't look like there's much happening for them.

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Speaker 10: I'll say this about eighton. He's a lottery ticket right.

710
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Speaker 10: There's like he might just be the same dude who's

711
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Speaker 10: been in Portland in the end in Phoenix. Maybe he's

712
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Speaker 10: just like not somebody who's going to take the game

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Speaker 10: seriously enough. But he's got like a ten or twenty

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Speaker 10: percent chance or whatever it is that you are the

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Speaker 10: team that's going to maximize his incredible talent. He was

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Speaker 10: a number one overall pick for a reason. You have

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Speaker 10: all the playmaking in the world to make him better.

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Speaker 10: You have an environment where he thinks he can win.

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Speaker 10: I don't know, like I get it. If you were

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Speaker 10: going to sign a Brook Lopez or a Clint Capella,

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Speaker 10: you're going to lose in the first of the second round,

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Speaker 10: and that was going to be that. I understand them

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Speaker 10: taking the ceiling play going for eight and is saying,

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Speaker 10: let's see if we can figure this out.

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Speaker 6: Let's see if we can take advantage of him.

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Speaker 10: They got to bring another wing, they got to get

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Speaker 10: a backup center. There's more work to be done here.

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Speaker 10: I understand the eight and move. I would just say,

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Speaker 10: give it another week or so before we make real

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Speaker 10: declarations of what they're going to.

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Speaker 6: Be next year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing I was saying, because this move

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Speaker 5: from a seven seed to a six and a half set,

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Speaker 5: that's what I had him mad there, Sam, Sam, appreciate

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Speaker 5: you man, Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 3: Brother. We appreciate it absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: Thanks no doubt, Sam Quinn there, we're definitely giving a

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Speaker 5: follow Sam quinns CBS. All Right, we got last call

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Speaker 5: Rob on the other side, Last call eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 5: ninety nine on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Hit us up, It's the Odd Couple. Fox Sports Radio.

743
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Speaker 2: where's your chi? You call call us at ninety nine

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747
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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio. It is the Odd Couple. Rob Parker,

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00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 5: Kelvin Washington, one more time for your boys. On a

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Speaker 5: worship Wednesday, dj Ali Alex providing us with some some

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00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 5: great tracks in the background. Achey knees, we gotta step back,

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00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: joints not cooperate and listen. We all know some days

756
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 5: your body is just like, Nope, it ain't happening, Kevin.

757
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: And on those days, luckily there's a leave with just

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Speaker 5: one peel. A lead provides up to twelve hours of

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Speaker 5: paying relief so you can keep moving. Use as directed, Rob,

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Speaker 5: you know what time it is a time now for

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Speaker 5: the last call.

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Speaker 3: This is the last.

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Speaker 11: Car car.

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Speaker 3: Here we got and again, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: sharing that. Thank you Kevin in Culver City.

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Speaker 1: You're the last call here on the Odd Couple of

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: What's up, cav what's up? It's good all the.

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Speaker 8: Time, beautiful to be here.

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Speaker 12: What's all the worst of Wednesday?

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Speaker 13: Man?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely? Hey, Rob, you can covering the releases nineteen eighty seven. Kelvin,

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Speaker 12: You're one of the most doubtant sports basketball, fishing Novels

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Speaker 12: by God disagree strongly. I think the Lakers got a bargain.

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Speaker 12: The key element is here, we got this for free

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00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 12: two years on the Lebron and Luca timeline, and they

777
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Speaker 12: didn't have to trade any of the core players like

778
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 12: Austin Leaves for Jared Allen or Daltin Kannen and to

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00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 12: COVID twenty thirty one first round draft pick for Walter Kessler,

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00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 12: or like that trade they have to make for Marcus

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00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 12: for Mark Williams and again and a guy who could

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Speaker 12: potentially be dominant, we saw it.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, keV keV keV. Let me let

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Speaker 3: me stop. You, let me stop, you keV, let me stop.

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Speaker 3: You don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: This is a typical fan reaction because the guy hasn't

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Speaker 1: worked out anywhere else. But you're gonna believe that the

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Speaker 1: Lakers got nothing, got got him for nothing, and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a star now right because he's gonna wear

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Speaker 1: Laker uniform. That what you're saying, No, no, no, but

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Speaker 1: that's what that But your your point is they got

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Speaker 1: him on a flyer, They got him for nothing, and

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Speaker 1: they didn't when do you have to not give up anything?

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00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: To get something. Do you do you understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 13: You're correct, You're correct, But I'm just saying, if you

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Speaker 13: remember that guy who played against Anthony Davis kelvin Washington

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00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 13: in the playoffs when they went on that he was

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Speaker 13: just as dominant as Ad and that went down with that.

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Speaker 5: Here's my issue. Yeah, here's my here's my issue with you, Kevin,

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Speaker 5: I hear you. Here's my issue. My issue is from that.

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 5: You should have gone up. You should have had a

802
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 5: taste of the NBA finals. You should have been ticked off,

803
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: and we should have been play seeing you play the

804
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: best basketball of your career. The Lakers don't have the

805
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: luxury of waiting and developing. They need guys who are

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00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 5: have and have motors and not to mention, here's my

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00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 5: last point for you, Kevin. Real quick, they're making your

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00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: if this was just in a vacuum, okay, cool, Right,

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Speaker 5: you got a guy maybe sixteen to ten, that's what Okay, fifty.

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Speaker 5: They're doing this in a conference where the Nuggets got

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Speaker 5: way better, where the Rockets got way better, when the

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00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: MAVs have got pieces. You that this isn't in its

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 5: own vacuum. They're in a conference that the thunder still

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Speaker 5: exists and the and that's my challenge with this is

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Speaker 5: you are competing with other teams who are already better

816
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: and got better.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't have said it better take that for data. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I just felt like dropping that every now and again.

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Speaker 13: Take that for data.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 5: You know, I just don't like a guy that I

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Speaker 5: have to try to oh if I get his motor going,

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Speaker 5: and oh, I know this is twenty seven eight year old.

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Speaker 3: Lebron is just one year old nothing. Do you know

825
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Like the idea of oh, yeah, we got him for nothing,

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Speaker 1: we'd have to give up anything for him.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be great for us. Really, Okay, Like there's.

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Speaker 5: A people I think Lakers fans probably gonna see days

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Speaker 5: where Jackson Hayes has more energy than DeAndre Aid.

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Speaker 3: More energy.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's a better play, more energy and effort.

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Speaker 5: I think you might see those days as well.

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Speaker 3: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.

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Speaker 2: I never miss your radio show. I never hear it,

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Speaker 2: so I never miss it.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that