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Speaker 7: Hy it's your friendly neighborhood and a moderator, John Ley Brody.

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Speaker 7: And today we're going over season two, episode nineteen, The

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Speaker 7: Here comes the recap for season two, episode nineteen, The

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Speaker 4: Yea, he shoots all of them, he says, start he shoots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've only heard that he's like a peach billy Bob

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Speaker 6: Can we just make an agreement to you and Taylor

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Speaker 1: You just want to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, apparently I don't remember that.

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Speaker 7: So he added like those two elements, that's what I

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00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 7: don't care about, you Droid? You good over there?

439
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: And who I thought he was like an imperial officer

440
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: from the Midwest, like.

441
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: America, like Johnny Middle.

442
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, he was very good at being

443
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: very awful.

444
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 7: Well, he was also this guy who was pretty he's

445
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 7: rarely getting into like the C team, and he knows that,

446
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 7: so that his way of like compensating for that is

447
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 7: to be b an a hole to AP five. So

448
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 7: we see a lot of these sort of psychological dynamics happening.

449
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 7: And even with AP five and and Chopper, I think

450
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 7: it's interesting that the kind of rules quote unquote of

451
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 7: chemistry or whatever with humans kind of apply to them too,

452
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 7: because even though, like Taylor alluded to, you can only

453
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 7: really understand one of them, the body language is still

454
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 7: kind of present and says humans says, you know, your

455
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 7: body responds before your brain really catches up. And I

456
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 7: felt like those rules applied even to these two even

457
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 7: though they're droids. I thought that was really interesting.

458
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

459
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: Also, Vanessa, you reminded me that droids aren't supposed to

460
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: have emotions, But what happened to our droid?

461
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 5: Well, he's pretty agro. James, No, James A. Domion did

462
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 5: the Imperial Captain?

463
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: Is that?

464
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 5: Yeah? Maybe that is a James hold on. Shout out

465
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 5: to James A.

466
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: Domion, Yes, shout out James, if that if you, if

467
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: you are who we're talking about.

468
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 5: He's from Omaha, Nebraska.

469
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and it looks like he's in Harold and Kumar.

470
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: Let's go all right, Oh my gosh great, Yeah that's crazy.

471
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 5: Well god bless all right, I gotta I gotta find

472
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 5: this guy. I don't I don't think we've met him,

473
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 5: have we? Oh? I've seen him around?

474
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

475
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: Do you I remember this guy?

476
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 6: The voice over community is pretty small anyway, and I

477
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 6: might be mispronouncing his name forgive me a Domian Domian.

478
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: A Domian oh mahad Ebaska.

479
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

480
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 6: Anyway, he did a great job. He looks nothing like

481
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 6: that character at all. I expected to see like a

482
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 6: John Candy type dude.

483
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah that's yeah, yeah, well done, well done. I

484
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: also thought that uh man Haarra is so angry in

485
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: this episode.

486
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 5: I know, well, like, see what does she say? C

487
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 5: one ten p?

488
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah falls a vironment name.

489
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: That's Aurelius.

490
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're extra salty this episode.

491
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she she was pretty crunchy.

492
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 6: All the yelling stakes are higher, so spaceballm was getting

493
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 6: a little agro.

494
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she and you and you totally get it.

495
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 7: Because you imagine how many times has he pulled something

496
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 7: like this, and how many times that's have been very

497
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 7: like all right, it's gonna be fine, Which that's Haarah

498
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 7: is usually the even keel one, so it was actually

499
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 7: nice to be like, Okay, even Harah has her limits

500
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 7: of some of these antics that Chopper does.

501
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

502
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I thought it was a really cool way

503
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 6: to give Chopper a moment.

504
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, for you, I have a question for you, Vanessa,

505
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 7: because you are like an even keel person. So for

506
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 7: you to like, I know, this can be the case

507
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 7: for a lot of actors. Where to go to that

508
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 7: place of that being that aggravated. I had to feel

509
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 7: like it's somewhat cathartic because it's like a safe space

510
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 7: to kind of go there. Was that the case for

511
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 7: you to like go there because you know, like I said,

512
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 7: I know you to be a very not going there

513
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 7: for the most part.

514
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing. I'm an only child, so I

515
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 6: don't get to go there with my brothers and sisters

516
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 6: quote unquote, like I don't. I mean, my dad's Italian,

517
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 6: so maybe there's like flamboyance there. Not to generalize and

518
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 6: stereotype my people, but you know, like sometimes I've seen

519
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 6: my fellow Italians yell at one another like hey, you know,

520
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 6: but that didn't really happen in my household.

521
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 5: First of all, thank you for thinking I'm even keeled.

522
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

523
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 6: I don't know that that's actually the case, even kelled welled.

524
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 5: Uh. I think Hara is even keeled.

525
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, and I think I think I yearned to

526
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: be all the time.

527
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 5: But I do get.

528
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 6: Distracted by things. I think I do get heartbroken by

529
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 6: things that I see that I can't fix. But maybe

530
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 6: that's hair too anyway. But it's cathartic in the sense

531
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 6: that I think maybe my closest relationship to Chopper and

532
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 6: the Rebels would be my cousins. All of them are

533
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 6: in Boulder, Colorado, or Colorado as it were. But you know,

534
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 6: we kind of we used to punch each other and

535
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 6: what have you, you know, play in house or I

536
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 6: don't know, you know, things went down, but it was

537
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 6: a safe place, as you said, So maybe it was

538
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 6: cathartic for me, given that I don't have anywhere to

539
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: sort of practice that in my own life unless I

540
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: fly to Colorado. But yeah, I mean the other thing

541
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 6: is like Chopper's not there, you know, so when I'm

542
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 6: yelling like that, I could easily be yelling at myself,

543
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 6: which probably does happen at least internally. I don't know,

544
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 6: but yeah, I think her passion for the rebel cause

545
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 6: makes her one not pursue her affection for Canaan because

546
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 6: there's no time. And also it does get under her

547
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 6: skin if they don't find a rebel base.

548
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 5: That the steaks are.

549
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 6: Really high, and I think she's got a lot on

550
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 6: the line and pressure from Ah Soca and really wanting

551
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 6: this all to work out that in that sort of

552
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 6: obsessive drive, she gets pissed off at Chopper for stealing

553
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 6: a leg and being a jerk.

554
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 5: So yeah, yes it was cathartic. Thank you.

555
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 7: I appreciate you sharing that. So here's the quote. Do

556
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 7: you think Kara would actually be like, well, f this dude, like,

557
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 7: let's see him behind?

558
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 4: No?

559
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: No, never, oh huh huh.

560
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 7: Do you think she somehow knows She's like, she knows

561
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 7: that he's going to pull something and reappear. I feel

562
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 7: like that that was my take. I don't think she

563
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 7: she would ever lean behind, for one, but I think

564
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 7: she also knows that he's going to find a way

565
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 7: to hustle himself back into orbit with us.

566
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least that's how I interpreted it.

567
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: Uh. I think she.

568
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 6: Knows that he'll figure something out. I mean, look at

569
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 6: what he did in the episode with the Jedi Temple,

570
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: Like he saw the Imperial forces coming, he flew away,

571
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 6: he flew back just in time.

572
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 5: I think she has every.

573
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 6: Faith that equally equal to his ability to steal things

574
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 6: and get distracted and be a jerk, he also has

575
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 6: a phenomenal ability to fall back in line and save

576
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 6: the day. And she concedes, Wow, you know, Chopper really

577
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 6: gave us new coordinates.

578
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: He really came through here.

579
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: So I think as mad as she gets, she might

580
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 6: leave him behind to teach him a lesson, but she

581
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 6: would never abandon.

582
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 5: Him to punish him.

583
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't think, right, Yeah, I don't think so. That

584
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: would be quite uncharacteristic of Hara. No, but I do

585
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: think she's frustrated with his antics.

586
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 6: Well, she gave him a direct order, don't yeah, and

587
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 6: he did.

588
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: So it's that's not cool.

589
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 7: Something I wanted to get your all's opinion on. Back

590
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 7: to eight five, because he really is I viewed him

591
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 7: as this sort of talent that's suppressed because of like

592
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 7: systemic like the systemic issues, you know. So he is

593
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 7: this like very highly intelligent, precise and capable protocol droid,

594
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 7: but he's like almost punished for his competence rather than rewarded,

595
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 7: like he's always like being talked down to, you know.

596
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 7: And maybe this is me bringing my own stuff into it,

597
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 7: because that's kind of how my upbringing was, Like I

598
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 7: knew I was capable of stuff, but there is always

599
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 7: a reason why the Asian kid can't be good at

600
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 7: basketball something like that. Like I'm using that as a

601
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 7: broad example, which was a thing, but I feel like

602
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 7: that whole thing with AP five, even though we're not

603
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 7: being beat over the head with it, I do feel

604
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 7: like the underline message. And again this could be me

605
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 7: projecting my own experiences onto it, but I do feel

606
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 7: like something in there is saying there is validity and

607
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 7: true talent being suppressed by a system. And I'm just

608
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 7: curious your thoughts in terms of looking at AP five

609
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 7: and his whole environment versus going to a more healthy

610
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 7: environment in the Ghost Crew.

611
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Yeah, I hold on to a little bit

612
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: of belief that like undeniable talent can pierce through anything.

613
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 4: So I think systems do hold a lot of people back.

614
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: Talent are not for like the built in systemic whatever

615
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: issue we have. So I definitely agree with that. But

616
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: and that might just be a delusionally optimistic approach. But

617
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: I've always maintained, like we've seen it before, like people

618
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: that have the system doesn't necessarily work in their favor

619
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: when they're exceptional rise above. But I mean, is that

620
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: how it should be?

621
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: Now?

622
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 5: Ah?

623
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I kind of I hate to be a cynic because

624
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: I also believe that I'm, like, you know, optimistic to

625
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: a fault. But maybe maybe that's changing in the last

626
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: few years. That's maybe starting to shift for me. I

627
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: hope not. But you know, I like to what you

628
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: just said, Taylor, Like, if you're thinking about like tyrannical

629
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: governments or regimes that like, you know, oppress their people

630
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: and don't allow, you know, whether it's like artists or

631
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: academics or authors or whatever, people who may have incredible

632
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: talent but aren't able to you know, practice what their whatever,

633
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: their their talents are where they are and they have

634
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: to escape in order to do that. They can't flourish

635
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: where they are, right so in order to be able

636
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: to excel in their field, they have to remove themselves

637
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: from that situation, right, Like, is that what you're because

638
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: you were saying like that, those those things will find

639
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: a way, but the way is to extricate themselves from

640
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: the situation.

641
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes and also sometimes not like not every case of it,

642
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Sure, yeah, yeah, I agree.

643
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: That's why I sort of have shit with I think

644
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: you're right. I think I mean, we know this. There's

645
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: so many systems that literally suppress people to the n

646
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: degree where you couldn't possibly much less survive, like do anything.

647
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: You have. That being said, the like I'm saying that

648
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: optimistic thing, I mean has to hope otherwise, I mean,

649
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: what is the otherwise? You know, I have to believe

650
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: that a little bit just to push the boulder up

651
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: the hill again, yea, even though it's going to come

652
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: back down, you know what I mean, and have that

653
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: idea otherwise.

654
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you're right, Yeah, you're right. I'm just thinking,

655
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: like I think I'm contradicting myself now because you know,

656
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: when you look at like oppressive regimes either now or

657
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: in history, you know, in all of human history, Like yes,

658
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: when when a human beings ultimate goal or sort of

659
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: overarching goal is just survival, it's very hard to allow

660
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: anything beyond that to flourish. However, that's like what has

661
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: happened for all of human history is that, like artists

662
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: make art as a method of resistance, and thinkers think,

663
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: and philosophers philosophize, And so what am I talking about?

664
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm wrong.

665
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. I heard a Howard Zinn quote recently, and

666
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going to paraphrase it because he's actually

667
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 4: fairly long. But it's talking about something that's apropart right now,

668
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 4: like the people that make change, or at least aspire

669
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: and continue to persevere. It's about remembering the goodness and people.

670
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: I suppose if you're only get the bad things, you

671
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 4: get kind of caught up in that, but you remember

672
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: how good people can be, and so therefore you strive

673
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: for that idea that we know people are capable of

674
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 4: this good thing. To see a droid call anotherdroid friend,

675
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: it's like I've forgotten what that is for however many

676
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: I don't know how many years droids live forever like that,

677
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: that's not even a concept anymore. But then remembering it,

678
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, that's a sort of possibility. And you

679
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 4: think of like Victor Frankel with manswarch for meaning in

680
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 4: concentrate camps. His big thing was like remembering how beautiful

681
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: a human can be, even though I'm not seeing the

682
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: beauty of humans for so long. Again, it's so I'm

683
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: not saying that that is even possible for some people,

684
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: but like maintaining that allows whatever. And now this has

685
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 4: kind of gone a little far from the question. But

686
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: like with that, I think a lot of talents are suppressed,

687
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: but I think there I have to believe that some

688
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 4: can get out. Otherwise, I mean, what do you do

689
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: you know?

690
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: No, you're right. I mean I guess I meant not

691
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: that it's not possible, because you have so many examples

692
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: of people being you know, like art being resistance, right,

693
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: or not just art, but like any anything you know,

694
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: as a form of resistance too. Let's just say oppressive regimes,

695
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: but or oppression just generally speaking. But I guess I

696
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: just meant, is so hard to do anything else but

697
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: just survive under those conditions, whether it's slavery or apartheid

698
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: or Nazi Germany or whatever, or North Korea or whatever.

699
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 5: But people do it.

700
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Meaning it is probably so hard to just survive and

701
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: take care of yourself and take care of your family

702
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: and exist. But there are people that you know, their

703
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: way to survive is to create, right.

704
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just my last sting because my mind's gone.

705
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 4: You reference a sports thing like I think of Tiger

706
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: Woods often like that, dude talk about someone who was

707
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: not supposed to succeed at a thing, like a lot

708
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: of stuff was stacked against him. He wasn't even allowed

709
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 4: into clubhouses that they were playing tournaments in. Wow, that's

710
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: I mean, if you can't talk about that is that's insane.

711
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 4: And then he would go like he would change outside

712
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 4: the clubhouse, outside of the locker room, because you couldn't

713
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: go in and go what's the course record and go

714
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: beat the course order. I have to believe if you're

715
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 4: so talented like you go, I don't care what you

716
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: stack against me. Watch this.

717
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 7: I agree with that to a certain degree because in sports,

718
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 7: unlike our industry where they say fake a team, make it,

719
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 7: you can't fake a team make it in sports either.

720
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 7: You can play nah yeah, like you're one hundred percent correct.

721
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 7: But at the same time he's in an environment where

722
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 7: that talent will shine through because you dominate the competition,

723
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 7: and then it's undeniable whether people wanted him to succeed

724
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 7: or not. It's like, well, I'm the one winning everything,

725
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 7: so what can you do? You know, even though you're

726
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 7: trying to make sure that I'm not and try to

727
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 7: maybe stack the deck against me as like I'm too

728
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 7: good for any of that stuff. So so yeah, that's

729
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 7: why I love sports because it really is.

730
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: And not to say that.

731
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 7: Being the child of somebody who maybe succeeded in the

732
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 7: respective sport doesn't like hurt. It doesn't hurt your chances,

733
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 7: but you still have to be able to play. Yeah,

734
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 7: you still got to have the skill set.

735
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: Where is Ronnie may Admitte door standards?

736
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: But that I completely agree with that. I will say

737
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: it like I think there was a I saw it

738
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: in La and across I mean, now you could say

739
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: the world. But social media and YouTube and Instagram and

740
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 4: way TikTok changed that in entertainment in a big way.

741
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of young people who because it

742
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: is so subjective, like what we're gonna rely on somebody

743
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 4: like you're better than this person. It's so subjective, everyone

744
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: is right in there. Take YouTube sort of evened it

745
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: where kids were like, Okay, you're not picking you for

746
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: these jobs. We'll watch this. I'm going to get more

747
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: views on my video. Then you get on a network

748
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: that has one hundred million dollars the poor into this,

749
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: and that was a little bit of this uh level

750
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: of yeah utilizer in a way that was like, okay, fine,

751
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: then let's do this. And even though it's still subjective,

752
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 4: you are getting a more objective metric of like, if

753
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 4: we're doing this for views, if we may entertainment, what

754
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 4: is it if it's not entertaining anyone reaching more people?

755
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: And I remember because at first there was a big

756
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: pushback because I was like, Okay, I'm working on a show,

757
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: You're supposed to do it this way. And I have

758
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: friends who they just started these YouTube channels, and then

759
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, this is awesome, Like

760
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 4: they said, you know what, I'm gonna take into my own hands.

761
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: If no one else is gonna if the system isn't

762
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: gonna let me in, then I'll just break in my

763
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: own way. And I think that is why they were

764
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: such a huge boom with that.

765
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's smart too, because I mean optics, as you know,

766
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: are a huge driving factor of not the biggest driving

767
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: factor of who's getting what. And you look at someone

768
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: like Kevin Hart, who really wasn't getting hired until he

769
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: went into the stand up tour. Then he's worth millions

770
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: of dollars.

771
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 7: All of a sudden he had value because he went

772
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 7: on tour and was doing stand up comedy. Then the

773
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 7: movie offers started coming in. So to your point, Taylor,

774
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 7: it's it's super smart to those YouTubers that do that.

775
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 7: Like I kind of was like, oh, maybe I should

776
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 7: have been doing the vines when everyone else is doing it.

777
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: That's it.

778
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: Vine's huge. I know people that were making when and

779
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: that was going. I knew Vine creators that were just

780
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: they're buying houses based up what they're being paid to

781
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: make vines. It was insane.

782
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was like, well no, because I want

783
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 7: to make movies, I want to do TV shows. But

784
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 7: it's like no, you can, but like build your value here,

785
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 7: because what they're going to look at is even if

786
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 7: this math doesn't really math a lot of times, as

787
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 7: you know, the thinking as well, if they have millions

788
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 7: of followers on this platform, theoretically they could bring it

789
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 7: over to this new thing we're trying to do here

790
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 7: the traditional way. So yeah, Vanessa, what did you think?

791
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 7: I know, we kind of uh, but I love your

792
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 7: thoughts on this as well.

793
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 6: No, No, I'm taking everything in and I'm having.

794
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 5: A million different thoughts.

795
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 6: But I do think that John, what you said, that

796
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 6: people say, oh, you know, an Asian can't be good

797
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 6: at basketball, I do think that there are certain resonant

798
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 6: biases that keep people.

799
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 5: Down that you know. I mean, there are rules and regulations.

800
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 6: Tiger was not allowed in a golf place like, that's

801
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 6: one thing, but there are also unspoken things that oppress

802
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 6: in ways that people are privileged not to be aware

803
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 6: of at times.

804
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 5: And so I think.

805
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 6: That watching the Droid sort of buck the system and

806
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 6: those things the way he says, like droids aren't supposed

807
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 6: to do this, and where's your restraining bolt?

808
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 5: The restraining bolt is a rule.

809
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 6: But there's a tone in his voice that smells very

810
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 6: much like Asians can't be good at basketball, so that

811
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 6: when they overthrow him, there's something deeply gratifying about that

812
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 6: that makes like you're saying, it gives AP five another

813
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 6: context within.

814
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: Which to thrive.

815
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 6: Great I love to see that. I love to see that. Similarly,

816
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 6: and I've mentioned this before, like when Callous is alone

817
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 6: in his cell, what does all that imperialism get him?

818
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 6: Or you know, the imperiless Fellowship is like complete isolation

819
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 6: and despair. But what the Rebel Alliance offers is a

820
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 6: different way to like maybe we're the YouTube of the

821
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 6: galaxy that that that you know, against all odds, a

822
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 6: droid can bust out and eventually hopefully sing a song

823
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 6: that we.

824
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear that hopefully it wasn't a fever

825
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: dream from them.

826
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 6: But I guess I just want to acknowledge the reality

827
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 6: of what you said, John, and also that for me,

828
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 6: I think that's also why it was so satisfying to

829
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 6: see the Droids win in this scenario that whether it's

830
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 6: an actual rule or an idea that's unspoken, I think

831
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 6: the droids crushed it. And I love that, you know,

832
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 6: even though Harrow was crunchy and and mad and whatever else,

833
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 6: but there is a sort of a bubble of love

834
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 6: that does allow people to thrive in a different context.

835
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 6: And I'm glad that there are certain things in our

836
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 6: world where people can do that. And Tiger Woods is

837
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 6: a phenomenon, and that's amazing, you know that that he said,

838
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 6: you know, what's the record and then went and broke it.

839
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 6: I mean, I think the Rebel Alliance has a similar determination,

840
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 6: and I love, I love seeing it work out for them.

841
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 5: It doesn't always as we see in the next episode.

842
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, they have trials and tribulations, but anyway,

843
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 6: I feel like that's why this episode is so moving

844
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 6: to see them win for once, you know that. I mean,

845
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 6: he's so rude to him at the beginning of the episode.

846
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 6: It's it's hard not to equate that with the way

847
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 6: certain people talk to other people in real life. That

848
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 6: is just so soul crushing.

849
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: That I'm really happy they want same.

850
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's one of those episodes where if you kind

851
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 7: of know what to look for, you see the message. Look,

852
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 7: I don't and maybe partially wishful think, and like I said,

853
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 7: it's always possible you're bringing part of yourself into that

854
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: to like relate to what's going on. But I also

855
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 7: have to believe that there is intention with the writing,

856
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 7: because the writing, as we've seen on the show is

857
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 7: you know, very thorough, very top notch. And but it's

858
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 7: like I remember Henry explained it to me once, He's like, well,

859
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 7: I do too, he says, he does two layers of writing.

860
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 7: He says, one is like I got to respect the Lord.

861
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 7: That's what comes first, because that's but it's like then

862
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 7: underneath that is where I put all these themes in.

863
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 7: And if you know precisely where to look, then you're

864
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 7: going to understand it and then you're going to relate

865
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 7: to it. And I feel like this episode was like

866
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 7: a shining example of that, because if you know what

867
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 7: to look for, if like someone who's in a like

868
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 7: being suppressed by the system, marine talk down to be like,

869
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 7: oh I see the themes here, but you're still being

870
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 7: It's still felt like a Star Wars show. It wasn't

871
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 7: like they were trying to make a prestige drama on

872
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 7: a NBC or anything.

873
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 5: And oh yeah.

874
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: I also I just want to shout out to Katsu

875
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 6: for saving the day. And also we mentioned briefly that

876
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 6: Sabine saved the day and AP five by using the

877
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 6: stolen leg but well done, thank you, Let's go.

878
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

879
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 7: I think overall, when I when I look at this

880
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 7: episode as a whole, because we viewed like the rebellion

881
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 7: at this point, I feel like as overcoming the Galactic Empire,

882
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 7: which it is, but I think also part of the

883
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 7: rebellion is like choosing the ones that maybe this system forgot,

884
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 7: which I feel like that's what happened here with AP five,

885
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 7: So I think that's also what encompasses what the rebel

886
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 7: alliance is all about. Yes, so I think with that,

887
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 7: I mean, if there's nothing else, I think it's time

888
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 7: for I think schools in session with Professor JC at the.

889
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 9: Micro ignore the music in the background, workers still at

890
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 9: the house. Okay, this is a very wide ranging back checks.

891
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 9: And I know last episode I tease that this episode

892
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 9: was going to be very light about a droid who

893
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 9: steals a leg, but I think we got pretty heavy

894
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 9: about it at the end. The one thing nobody mentioned,

895
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 9: and I'm surprised, John, is the music when Chopper is

896
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 9: running around with the leg is very much the Cairo

897
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 9: chase from Raiders of the Lawston Praise a.

898
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 5: Lost Yank Tayler.

899
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys.

900
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 9: I also got kind of a rocket and group vibe

901
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 9: from the Droids.

902
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

903
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 9: Obviously this came out before Guardians of the Galaxy, I think,

904
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 9: so I wonder if they were like, Hey, let's steal

905
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 9: the droid vibe. Then we went to Jetson's and Flintstones

906
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 9: and John Before you said it, I made the note

907
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 9: that there is the theory that they live at the

908
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 9: same time. There was a crossover movie.

909
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: I owned it.

910
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, The Jetsons Meet the Flintstones that was released in

911
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 9: nineteen eighty seven. Elroy Jetson builds a time machine to

912
00:46:53,239 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 9: send them back to the twenty fifth century. Who Stones

913
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 9: is actually taking place in our future?

914
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 10: From now's?

915
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

916
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Wow, what can someone make sense of that for me?

917
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: Because my brain is not computing.

918
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: There's a collapse of back around, a.

919
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 9: Collapse of civilization and okay, and we get.

920
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 4: Portabello mushrooms in the dinner March.

921
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, Okay, that's upsetting. I was not aware when

922
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: I was six and watching Saturday Morning Christian.

923
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's also Chopper calls a P five his friend

924
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 9: and then vice versa at the end when AP five

925
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 9: says Chopper is my friend. I got a little Kirk

926
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 9: Spock vibe from it.

927
00:47:59,640 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

928
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 5: Yes.

929
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 10: And the other thought I had was Tombstone.

930
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: The Huckleberry where where.

931
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 9: They're talking Doc Holiday and they're like, Doc, why are

932
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 9: you doing this and he goes, well, what is my friend?

933
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 9: And they're like, hell, Doc, I've got lots of friends,

934
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 9: and he goes.

935
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 10: I don't.

936
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

937
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 9: It was kind of like that moment where AP five

938
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 9: was like, oh, I this is my friend and I

939
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 9: am going to do the thing for my friend. And

940
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 9: if you haven't seen Tombstone, go watch it.

941
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: Taylor second bucklebar.

942
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 9: Let's see AP five is in thirteen total episodes of Rebels.

943
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 9: It is an RA seven model droid. The first time

944
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 9: we see that model of droid is on the Death Star.

945
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 9: It got an action figure back in the day, like

946
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 9: in the seventies Star Droid action figure. So litl who's Jesse?

947
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 9: This is the of an RA A seven droid.

948
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know if he had a name.

949
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 9: Nineteen seventy nine. I think they called him death Star

950
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 9: Droid was literally his name.

951
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: I thought. I said they called him Jim.

952
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 5: Jim.

953
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 9: Taylor pulled an absolutely non fictional memory out of his

954
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 9: head where Stephen Stanton does sing a song with AP

955
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 9: five floating away in space in season three, episode nineteen,

956
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 9: Double Agent Droid and I.

957
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: Ain't even seen the show.

958
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: I love to say it would have been absolutely yeah, Bash,

959
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: if you had just conjured that out of your.

960
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: Right saying, I was like this memory of singing, I.

961
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: Felt confident that that was a real thing, because I

962
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: don't think your brain would do that otherwise. But yeah, wow,

963
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: well done.

964
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 9: It made it into the show, so I think that's

965
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 9: the That was the like crux point. But it is

966
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 9: in the show.

967
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: Okay, score too.

968
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 9: I didn't want to say to Taylor Diehard is like

969
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 9: one of the greatest scripts and most intentionally made like

970
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 9: action movies of all time. Like ninety percent of the

971
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 9: exposition of that movie is done by shot choice and

972
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 9: set up and payoff, not through dialogue. It's it's really

973
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 9: it's really brilliant.

974
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: So you show it.

975
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 4: Is a masterpiece.

976
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: It is genuinely a masterpiece. And sorry, I already said.

977
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 9: I'll drop one little piece of Diehard knowledge that the

978
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 9: first shot in Diehard that you see is of Bruce

979
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 9: Willis's hand clutching the arms of the the airplane he's on.

980
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 9: Why is that because he's afraid of airplanes or the

981
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 9: fact that he's still wearing his wedding ring and his

982
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 9: wife is using her maiden name from the first shot

983
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 9: of the movie. They're using visuals to show that he

984
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 9: and his wife are not on the same page.

985
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: But don't tell him an don't give anything away.

986
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 9: That's the first like three minutes of the movie. But

987
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 9: and that just continues throughout the entire movie. It's all

988
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 9: just little visual cues like that that you can watch

989
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 9: the movie fifty times and still pick up a new

990
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 9: visual cue of like, oh my gosh, they like they

991
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 9: teed that up and I didn't even know it.

992
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 7: That is a part of the Family Matters universe, if

993
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 7: you believe that Carl Winslow was actually the whole theory there.

994
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 6: Too, Santa Santa. It also has very poetic moments.

995
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 9: We talked a little bit about droids have emotion, and

996
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 9: I think I talked about this much more on an

997
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 9: earlier episode, But there is the theory that the longer

998
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 9: droid goes without a memory wipe, the closer to human

999
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 9: it becomes.

1000
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you didn't say that. I love that.

1001
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 9: I made a note when you guys were talking about

1002
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 9: Hara being angry with Chopper. I was like, well, Harris

1003
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 9: Space Mom, So she's not mad at Chopper, She's just disappointed.

1004
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 10: Arna John.

1005
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 9: You talked about AP five in his environment. I did

1006
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 9: want to point out that he was built at it

1007
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 9: and you guys touched on a little bit, but he

1008
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 9: was built.

1009
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 10: During a different regime earlier.

1010
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 9: He's kind of a product of a previous regime, that is,

1011
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 9: that is existing in a space he doesn't belong under

1012
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 9: a new regime, right. He was built for the Galactic

1013
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 9: Republic and did strategy on a galactic cruiser during the

1014
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 9: Clone Wars, and now he's you know, the new regime

1015
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 9: doesn't respect the people from the old regime.

1016
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 7: So it's like he was a Wildcat quarterback, but then

1017
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 7: a new coordinator came in and it don't run the

1018
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 7: Wildcat anywhere?

1019
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 9: Would that be an apt ANALOGI exactly exactly, Tia. You

1020
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 9: mentioned Shadura Sanders. I think you forget I must I

1021
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 9: think you meant to mention.

1022
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 10: Pro bowler chador standers.

1023
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to know, I said, Brownie loud

1024
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 4: in praud we can.

1025
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: I also felt bad as soon as I sneezed, because

1026
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: I think that I have mixed feelings about Shadoor, because

1027
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: I think that he is held to a different standard.

1028
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: That I mean, we don't have to go down this road,

1029
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: but he is held to a different standard. Than so

1030
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: many other.

1031
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 8: Uh NFL players that I think, like, I still feel

1032
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 8: the way I feel about him and his abilities and

1033
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 8: his dad and Colorado anyway, whatever his college career, but

1034
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 8: I think that maybe he's not held to the same

1035
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 8: standard and that's unfair.

1036
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, Brownie one to that agreement.

1037
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 9: I followed his story like very closely because I do

1038
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 9: think he is asked to atone for the sins of

1039
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 9: his father in a way that because his dad was

1040
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 9: very great but also very polarizing in his behavior. I

1041
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 9: don't think Shador behaves in the same way his dad does,

1042
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 9: at least at that level, but is but now has

1043
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 9: to kind of live up to an answer for what

1044
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 9: the comments his dad used to make and continues to make.

1045
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: And continues to make.

1046
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, John you were talking about and Taylor YouTube and

1047
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 9: all that, and John you mentioned like maybe I should

1048
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 9: have done fine, maybe I should have done this. I

1049
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 9: feel like people our age kind of grew up in

1050
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 9: this idea of like we were the going to follow

1051
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 9: the Kevin Smith, Robert Rodriguez, Quentin Tarantino film school path

1052
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 9: where you do a low budget independent movie and then

1053
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 9: Merrimax gives you a bunch of money. And you live

1054
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 9: out the rest of your days doing whatever you want

1055
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 9: with unlimited big budget movies. So like I always thought

1056
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 9: I missed the boat on that. But I was also

1057
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 9: too young to really capitalize on the YouTube phenomenon that happened.

1058
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 9: Like I was kind of like caught between generations or sorry,

1059
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 9: too old to get into the YouTube Okay. I was

1060
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 9: like yeah, sorry, okay, yeah, yeah, because I'm forty five.

1061
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 9: So like when people started doing YouTube, I was like,

1062
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 9: look at all these jump cuts. What are they doing.

1063
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 9: Nobody's ever going to watch this. There's no quality to this.

1064
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 9: The lighting's terrible. And then I.

1065
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: Was now they all just edit like those days.

1066
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 9: Well, I've read a lot of articles because I have

1067
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 9: this theory that I've had this theory for a long

1068
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 9: time that college is becoming irrelevant very quickly. And I

1069
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 9: started thinking about this because I had a daughter and

1070
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 9: I have to start planning for college the moment you

1071
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 9: find out you're going to have a baby. And I've

1072
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 9: read a lot of stuff recently about younger generation who

1073
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 9: are going into the trades. They're going into plumbing or

1074
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 9: electric or these things where they work with their hands,

1075
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 9: but they are self advertising through YouTube. Instagram, social media,

1076
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 9: and I just read an article about this. He's like

1077
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 9: twenty three. He is a fully licensed electrician. He's making

1078
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 9: one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a year and

1079
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 9: all of his gigs come through his YouTube channel. And

1080
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 9: he's making enough off of YouTube revenue to pay for

1081
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 9: his new car. Wow, the lease on his new car.

1082
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 9: So it is kind of cool. How with art, with commerce,

1083
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 9: with all of that, that technology has democratized your ability

1084
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 9: to get there. You no longer have to ask permission

1085
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 9: of the studio system or the art gallery owner or

1086
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 9: any of those things. You kind of have a pathway

1087
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 9: to control roll your own destiny, which is pretty cool

1088
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 9: and very Star Wars.

1089
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed that's what I got. Thank you, am.

1090
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: I like that good stuff. It's uh one question for you.

1091
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 7: I don't know if you have the answer to this

1092
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 7: earth even as an answer, because his JC, as you know,

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Speaker 7: C three PS design was based off like Metropolis was.

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Speaker 7: Do you know if AP five design had any sort

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Speaker 7: of classical movie roots in terms of his design.

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Speaker 9: I don't think so. I mean my guess would be

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Speaker 9: he's close enough. I think there was something that he said,

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Speaker 9: like like bug eye droid kind of thing. But I

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Speaker 9: don't think it like, I don't think you can draw

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Speaker 9: directly from that. I think he's kind of honestly what

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Speaker 9: it looks like to me, it's like a bad pull

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Speaker 9: on a C three po costume.

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Speaker 2: Timo, are you seeing as like a T move C

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Speaker 2: three Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, fair enough, fair enough, awesome, awesome. Well appreciate you, JC,

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Speaker 7: appreciate you all. This was a fun episode. We'll be

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Speaker 7: back next week as always. But in the meantime, everybody

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Speaker 7: keep on rating, keep on subscribing, keep on telling people

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Speaker 7: about it. That's how that's what helps the show grow.

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Speaker 7: And we are in the month of February, which, as

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Speaker 7: you know, is Black History Month. Not that the history

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Speaker 7: of African American in this country should be relegated to

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Speaker 7: one month, but if we do have a centralized month

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Speaker 7: to celebrate that history, then definitely take the time to

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Speaker 7: do it. Try to educate yourself because we are at

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Speaker 7: a time where you are given a certain story, but

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Speaker 7: you're not given the whole story. And unfortunately, we're not

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Speaker 7: always going to be given that whole story. So it's

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Speaker 7: on us as individuals to educate ourselves. And then once

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Speaker 7: you do that, educate others. There's really great resources out there.

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Speaker 7: I just read this incredible book called The Revolution Has

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Speaker 7: Come by Robin Spencer, and it's chronicling the Black Panther

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Speaker 7: Party in Oakland. But when you think Black Panther, you

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Speaker 7: think Hughey Newton. But there was really a woman named

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Speaker 7: Elane Brown and a lot of women in the Black

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Speaker 7: Panther Party who were like really running the show and

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Speaker 7: really helping the growth. It's just certain people were in

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Speaker 7: the forefront four Systemic Reasons, which was a bit of

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Speaker 7: a theme today. So stuff like that. These books are

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Speaker 7: out there, it's on you to read them and then

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Speaker 7: pass on that knowledge to other people. I don't mean

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Speaker 7: to get preachy about it, but you know, a friend

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Speaker 7: of mine told me, you know, in social studies classes

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Speaker 7: growing up, we're kind of giving this fairy tale of

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Speaker 7: what the history is. And it was a feel good story.

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Speaker 7: And that's fine when you're in the oppressiable age of

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Speaker 7: a great schooler. But as you get older, I think

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Speaker 7: it's good to look at all the spectrums of what

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Speaker 7: a potential story can be, whether it's our history or

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Speaker 7: whether it's something like Star Wars.

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Speaker 2: Just look at the whole thing.

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Speaker 7: So I just wanted to say that piece and also

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Speaker 7: just let people know that it's on you to do

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Speaker 7: that stuff, because the last thing I'll say about that

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Speaker 7: is is, look, you know that Thomas Edison invented the

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Speaker 7: light bulb. They talked about Thomas Edison. Nobody talks about

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Speaker 7: Lewis Latimer, and some of you who are saying, who's

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Speaker 7: Lewis Latimer, Well, this was a black inventor who perfected

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Speaker 7: the carbon filament that's inside the light bulb that actually

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Speaker 7: gives it light. Nobody talks about him, but we can,

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Speaker 7: and then you can pass among that word. And so

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Speaker 7: it's honest to do so. And I hope you all

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Speaker 7: take it upon yourself to educate yourself and educate others.

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to say that as we enter February

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Speaker 7: in Black Issue.

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Speaker 1: Here here, John's here here John.

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Speaker 2: And shameless Plug.

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Speaker 7: On my other podcast, I'm doing a four part mini

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Speaker 7: series with Michael Harriet, the author of Black aff History,

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Speaker 7: and we're doing a four part rundown on black exploitation,

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Speaker 7: horror and what that was all about. So it's called

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Speaker 7: that was pretty scary. So shameless Plug if you all

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Speaker 7: need some extra stuff to listen to throughout the month

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Speaker 7: of February. Every Friday of February will be one part

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Speaker 7: of the four part series. And you want to hear

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Speaker 7: Michael Harriet has to say about that side of history.

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Speaker 7: Believe me, he is a very educated and very entertaining individual.

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Speaker 7: So I just wanted to throw that out there. But

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Speaker 7: in the meantime, we still got our job to do here.

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Speaker 7: We'll see you next week and it's always Taylor's got

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Speaker 7: the final word.

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Speaker 4: Gee. The music.

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Speaker 7: Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart podcast producer,

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Speaker 7: hosted by Vanessa Marshall, TiO Surkar, Taylor Gray, and John

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Speaker 7: Lee Brody Executive producer and in house Star Wars guru

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Speaker 7: slash backchecker J C. Reifenberg. Our music was composed by

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Speaker 7: Mikey Flash. Our cover art was created by Neil Fraser

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Speaker 7: of Neil Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Holly Frean, Aaron

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Speaker 7: Kauffman over at iHeart, Evan krasgor At, William Morris, Endeavor,

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Speaker 7: Tresa Kenobio, George Lucas for creating this universe we love

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Speaker 7: so much, and of course all of our amazing listeners.

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Speaker 7: Follow us on Instagram at Potter Rebellion and email list

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