1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: The first Fire Festival was built as an exclusive luxury 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: music festival at a private island in the Bahamas and 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: escape filled with music in a tropical paradise, with tickets 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: costing from twelve hundred dollars up to one hundred thousand, 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: but now a one hundred million dollar lawsuit claims it 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: was closer to The Hunger Games or Lord of the 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Flies than could shell Up. The festival was canceled after 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: the first day, and the plaintiff say they arrived to 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: a dismal site of half built tents, ham and cheese sandwiches, 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: and not even a sighting of advertised bands like Blink. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg News reporter Polly mus Sends wrote about the failed 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: festival and joins us Now, so Polly describe how the 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: event was build and what happened. Yeah, the event was 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: really built as a luxury experience, top of the line, 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: best that you can get. And it was also a 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: built a sort of an unplugging Go to the beach 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: for a weekend. Don't use your iPhone, you know, you 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: can really just unplug, unwind, enjoy the music, enjoy the beach, 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: to meet some really interesting people. A lot of the 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: people that were advertising this, were prominent Instagram celebrities, prominent models, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, Kendall Jenner was involved. Bella hadid a really 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: top of the line model. So that's the kind of 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: image that it portrayed. Was just pure luxury on a 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: remote island destination. And what happened, well, that's what it 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: gets really interesting. So when folks arrived, they sort of 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: fairly quickly realized it was not as it seemed. There 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: was a big line, the tents didn't really seem quite 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: right compared to the pictures. Some folks who had paid 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: extra to have lodges rather than tents found themselves still 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: having to stay in a tent. The food was definitely 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: not what folks thought that they would be getting. You know, 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: there was a lot of styrofoam containers, some cheese sandwiches, 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: There was some chicken, pasta salad and shrimp out there. 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: But when they had really been built a luxury dining 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: experience and a luxury living experience, it was certainly not that. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: Even their luggage did not arrive in a particularly lux way. 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: It showed up in a big shipping container and then 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: attendees actually climbed onto it to find their bags. Throughout, 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: So Polly, was there any music at all? Well, there 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: was a stage and the implies there could have been music, 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: but in fact, it seems that many of the musicians 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: did not arrive. And this lawsuit that was filed yesterday 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: in California alleges that the musicians and the celebrities, the 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: influencers paid to promote the event were actually told in 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: advance that there was going to be issues and not 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: to come. It's to be determined if that's confirmed, but 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: that's what this case alleges. And what have the organizers 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: of the event said in response. They have apologized profusely 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: and they are promising refunds. But on the case of 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the refunds, what people are actually getting is called a 51 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: refund application. They're told to log into this website, they're 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: told to apply for the refund, and in lieu of 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: a refund, they're actually being given the option to get 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: twice as many tickets for next year's event instead of 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: getting their money back. So while they are you know, apologizing, 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: they're taking some responsibility. Uh, they are also you know 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: hedging their bets. They want to try to get people 58 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: to go next year rather than just get all their 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: money back, and you came out with a news story 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: today about behind the scenes of this. So they're suing 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: for fraud, negligent misrepresentation, and breach of contract. Does it 62 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: seem as if fraud was involved here after you looked 63 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: into this, Well, you know, I've gone through it pretty carefully, 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: and I will say that people that were involved in this, 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: they didn't seem that this was forcefully done or maliciously done. 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: It seems that there was just a lot of issues 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: that came up. These are people that have never planned 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: a music festival before, let alone one in a fairly remote, 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: you know location. It's an island. You have to bring 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: a lot of things in. So I think it might 71 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: be difficult to prove fraud without malicious intent. I don't 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: think these people were trying to, you know, get one 73 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: over on the attendees. They were trying to have an event. 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: There were things there that would you know, lead you 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: to believe that an event was happening. It just didn't happen. Well, 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: probably there was one one thing you alluded to earlier 77 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: that were caught my eye and your story when you 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: said that that the organizers are accused of telling them 79 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: musicians not to come that. That strikes me as being 80 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: somewhat more serious than than just poor organization. Absolutely, and 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: I do think that that's something to me really debated. 82 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: That is one of the big points that was made 83 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: in this lawsuit. They sort of pointed to that and said, 84 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, there was chaos, there was complete disaster, and 85 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: they alleged that the organizers did know in advance. So 86 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of what's going to be debated 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: among the lawyers here is how far ahead did they 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: know and what did they really say, if anything. And 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: the refund process sounds like it's going to be very complicated, 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: and is it something the lawyer who's suing is known 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: for big suits and big cases, is it something that 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: is likely to be accepted? Well, he is certainly known 93 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: for very big suits, and he has actually said that, 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to do a class action here. 95 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: I am hearing that other lawyers are considering class action 96 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: suits as well, So perhaps they'll all turn into one 97 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: gi aunt lawsuit. Lawyers that are not quite as known 98 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: as this particular turning out of Hollywood who is very 99 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: well known for his work. So I think it's to 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: be determined how that goes down. Now, as far as 101 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: the refunds go, it is really very complicated because in 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: addition to ticket refunds, there were these things called fry bands, 103 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: which basically allowed you to make purchases as you went 104 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: through the event. If you wanted to get a tour, 105 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: if you wanted to get a boat, and you know, 106 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: a food upgrade, you could all buy it on this band. 107 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: So those bands still have balances on them that have 108 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: to be refunded, so it's a multi pronged situation. It 109 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: sounds complicated and nothing like the exclusive Wait Rest Have 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: Fun event that was that was biled. But it's an 111 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: incredibly interesting story and you can read it on Bloomberg. 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: That's Bloomberg News. Polly must Sin, Thanks Polly, thank you,