1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks. It it's Thursday, February twenty six and 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: an unseerious clown show of a deposition that that welcome 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rools. I didn't 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: think he'd be hopping on so quickly doing an update 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: of Hillary Clinton's deposition that is still going on, and 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: it started a little bit ago, but it has. For 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: a deposition that's supposed to be in private, we have 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: learned an awful lot about what's happening in the room. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: Yes, including the fact that the deposition had to be 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: paused because it was disrupted because a member of Congress 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: clearly violated the House rules. 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: I think every. 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Congressman and every congresswoman at this point would know. In 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: a closed door session, a closed door hearing where the 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: media is not allowed, especially given the fact that the 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Clintons wanted it to be open, you probably shouldn't take 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: a photo, send it to someone who then posts the 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: photo in real time for all to see. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: This happened? Was it within the first hour? Right? 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: It was pretty quickly, so. 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Yes, folks've been waiting. This is this is red meat 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: salivating times for the Republicans. The Clintons under oath and 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: you get to ask them questions. Yes, this is a 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: big event for Republicans, we get that, but Robes, Lauren 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Bobert of Colorado not new to controversy and actually usually 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: doesn't give a damn about courting controversy. She was the one, 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: and we know this because she has admitted it, and 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: also the picture we saw has her name right in front. 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: She seemed almost proud to be showing off that she 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: was the one that took the picture of Robes. This 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: is a bigger mess than we anticipated. And what's everybody 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: talking about today? Something other than survivors, something other than victims. 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Once again, this has become exactly what everybody thought. It 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: was just a political theatrical mess, and it's an embarrassment 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: for everybody. 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: I believe Hillary Clinton predicted that this was what she 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: was stepping into, although I don't think she could have 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: anticipated this twist in it all because it almost seems calculated. 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: There was a photo that shouldn't have been taken without 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: her knowledge sent to yes a Republican po caster or 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: a right wing podcaster, who then put in a caption 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: basically saying, look how unhappy she looks, and look at 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: her now for the first time having to face questions 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: over Epstein, So just taking whatever phase she was making 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: and interpreting it in real time while she's testifying, and 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: then when the actual hearing, the deposition had to be 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: paused so they could figure out what was going on, 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: who took the photo, and. 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: Deal with the issue. 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: Then they go on again to say that basically this 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: was orchestrated by Hillary to try and not answer by 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: getting upset about a silly photo. Now she's trying to 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: evade questions. It's just no matter what happened, and this 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: was a drama that was created by the congress woman. 55 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Now somehow the fingers are pointed back at Hillary. It 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: really is remarkable when you see what's happening in the 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: world of pr. 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: We think remarkable. Robes Hi, Bill and Hillary knew this 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: was coming. This is why they pressed, and they pushed 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: let's do this in public, in front of everybody. Why 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: because it doesn't give one side the opportunity to draft 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: a narrative. There is only now one narrative that has 63 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: come out of that room that was supposed to be 64 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: closed door. That narrative is a picture of her that 65 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: a popular right wing podcaster and influencers put out to 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: his millions of folks saying, ooh, look at her. It's 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: going bad for her. She looks bad, she looks nervous, 68 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: she looks scared, she looks There is one side and 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: one narrative of a closed door hearing is an image 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: of her. They own it. Even after it came out. 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Robes the Democrats came out, after they did some questioning. 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: They said, after that photo came out and after the pause, 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and her team were screaming and yelling, well, 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm putting, I'm spreading my way. What I'm 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: saying is they're beating in the table. Say let the 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: press in now. 77 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Yes, at this point they and they would have. First 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: of all, I understand why they wanted to press in there. 79 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: If this is all about transparency, isn't this the whole 80 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: point of the House Oversight Committee to investigate the investigation 81 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: into Jeffrey Epstein. Right, So this is all in the 82 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: air of full transparency for the American public. And so 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: when the people who are being deposed were all these 84 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: alleged claims have been made about them in this vacuum 85 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: of information, fine, they want the public to hear. They 86 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: want members of the media in the room. They want 87 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: full transparency. 88 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Oh the irony, and they want it for this reason 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: in particular. They just got set up. The Clinton's got 90 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: set up. They did. We know he didn't. This is 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: part of politics, and they knew it was coming. But 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: they got set up now, and so our camera's going 93 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: to be allowed in. Democrats are now, in the first 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: three hours of this deposition today started making new demands. Robes. 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: They came out and make some serious demands of Trump, 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: of Pam Bondy. They're making serious demands having to do 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton's testimony tomorrow now based on this. I 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: don't know if any of this is going to go 99 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: their way. But Robes Hillary Clinton, we said, and I 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of people would agree, it was a 101 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: smart move on her part to release at least her 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: her written statement. So she did release that this morning. 103 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: That's not a violation of any night that I've seen 104 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: now that she released that ahead of time, so it 105 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: was out there. But man, bro I did not see 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: this one coming. But the Democrats will come out and 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: call that I started at the top an unseerious clown 108 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: show of a deposition they said, this is an embarrassment 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: to Republicans because there's nothing to ask. They're running out 110 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: of things to ask her. She has no recollection of 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: ever meeting the man, never been on the plane, never 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: been to the island. 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: The only thing that anyone can tie the two of 114 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: them together, and we talked about this in the previous podcast, 115 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: was that, yes, Gallainne Maxwell, isn't a picture in Chelsea 116 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Clinton's wedding because she was the plus one from a 117 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: with a man who was friends with Bill Clinton. 118 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: Okay, and that's it. That's it. 119 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Look, nobody's ever going to believe anything that comes out 120 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: of her mouth if you are on one particular side 121 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: of the aisle. But when you talk facts and evidence 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: and everything else, and the pictures that have come out, 123 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: we're looking at a picture on TV right now, Will 124 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Clinton standing next to jeffy Epstein. Okay, if you want 125 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: to talk to him, we'll listen to your argument from 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: maybe talking to him. She has nothing to do with 127 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: this thing. No, I don't robes. This is exactly what 128 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: we thought it was gonna be, which was one a 129 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: waste of actual investigative time, but two it was for 130 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: Republicans to get what they're getting right now. Now, is 131 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: it possible it's going to backfire home because one of 132 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: the things Democrats have come out now and they're demanding 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: robes Trump. They're demanding Trump gets in front of this 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: committee and testify because now we got a president set 135 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: for presidents showing up to give congressional testamenty. 136 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: Yes, first time in history it's happened. So why should 137 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: one president be treated differently than the other. The Republicans 138 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: would argue that a sitting president is different than a 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: former president. 140 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: But I'm that's a gray area right there. 141 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: The Democrats are also making demands, and this is something 142 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: that the Hillary Clinton team said they wanted as well. 143 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 2: They want the full transcript and video within twenty four hours. 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: They don't want it edited, no editing of the video, 145 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: and that makes sense. That is the way to have 146 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: full transparency, and I appreciate that is why they wanted 147 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: it live. That is why they wanted the media in 148 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: the room, because you can't edit something, you can't take 149 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: something out of context. 150 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: People get to see and hear. 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: For themselves in the full context of what's being said 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: from what's being asked. 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: Isn't it usually the opposite sometimes you don't see that 154 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: often the witness saying, please make this public, Please put 155 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: me under oath in front of cameras, and let's do 156 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: this in public. Why would the Republicans not want to 157 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: do that? 158 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: And there's a question that only they can answer. 159 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: That's something if you want to embarrass them, if you 160 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: want to show them up, if you want the whole, 161 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: if you want transparency, and if you want them to 162 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: answer for what they know and let ropes, how is 163 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: transparency putting them in a closed hearing and then leaking 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: out just the things you think look bad. That was 165 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: the point. That was the point, and sure enough, here 166 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: we go. This is a look the Bill Clinton thing tomorrow. 167 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: I am very curious. Can you imagine if they did 168 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: allow cameras. There's no chance Republicans going to agree to that. 169 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: But why wouldn't they? To your point, have they answered 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: that question? They have said that they they This is 171 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: how they do it. They depose people first and then 172 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: they have a public hearing. But this is their one 173 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: and done with the Clintons. It's not as if they're 174 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: going to do this deposition for hours, an extraordinary long deposition, 175 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: as we already heard Comer say it was going to 176 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: be and. 177 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: Then go and do something publicly afterwards. 178 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: So I can't you know, that's the only thing I 179 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: have heard from the Republicans that this is just how 180 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: we do it. But it doesn't make a lot of sense, 181 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: and a lot of folks would point to there's a 182 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: reason why, and the reason is there's really nothing you're 183 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: gonna get from Hillary Clinton. She actually doesn't know anything. 184 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton. I don't know. 185 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: It would be interesting given the events of today and 186 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: the fact that now you've got the Clintons doubling down 187 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: and really asking. 188 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: For full transparency. 189 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: Now that you've got folks on the Republican side taking 190 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: pictures and leaking it out to the media to whoever 191 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: they want to give it to, then that should open 192 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: the door for the conversation to be re examined. 193 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, can you imagine tomorrow Bill Clinton versus the House 194 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee on live television. 195 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: I would plan the entire day. 196 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Change my day, absolutely, it would change my day. And look, 197 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: some of these folks on committee. Lauren Bobert was in 198 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, second grade, seriously, literally when Hillary Clinton 199 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: was first Lady. Right by the time she's Secretary of State, 200 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Lauren Bober is barely out of high school, so she's 201 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: in there. You know, just the dynamics here. I know 202 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: she's from a difference, she's a younger, different age, but 203 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: to not give a damn about the decorum, to not 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: actually give a damn about rules, it seemed more important 205 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: to her, like a game. 206 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: Well, yes, to surreptitiously take the picture than to leak 207 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: it to your friend, a conservative podcaster. And then, by 208 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: the way, when the podcaster feigned just outrage and insanity 209 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: that people were making such a big deal about this, 210 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: then I'm assuming this is during the break before they 211 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: went back into session, starts commenting back on his act, saying, 212 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: you did nothing wrong, like just defending basically the release 213 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: of this photo that clearly was in clear violation of 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: House rules. 215 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: Want to point that out. This isn't a gray area. 216 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: This isn't you know, maybe she shouldn't have or that 217 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: wasn't cool of her to do. No, taking the photo 218 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: was a violation of committee rules period. 219 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: Now has there been talk. 220 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Of any sort of punished So that's my question to you. 221 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anywhere. I haven't either, And she's still 222 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: in there, and it has continued, I don't know what 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: changes they made. I assume they didn't take everybody's phone 224 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: from them like their children, put them in yonder pouches 225 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: or something like they do kids here in New York. 226 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: But she's still in there, and it continues on. I've 227 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: just I am itching to see what happens tomorrow. Does 228 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton have no because then if he says, you 229 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: know what the way you're all doing, I changed my mind. 230 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm not coming, And then folks are gonna say, oh, 231 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: he's got something to hide. 232 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't think he can do that. 233 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: At this point, they have been set up and it's 234 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: all playing out. But stay here, folks. We talked about 235 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: the Democratic demands. We will tell you their list of 236 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: demands that they made mid deposition today, and all those 237 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: demands have to do with President Trump's there. 238 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back as we record our second episode on the 239 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: goings on inside that Chappaqua Performing Arts Center where Hillary Clinton, 240 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: the former Secretary of State, former first Lady, is being 241 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: deposed by members of a committee that has been investigating 242 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: the Epstein investigation. And look, this is a private deposition. 243 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: It's being recorded. We are being told we will get 244 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: a transcript and a video of it, but yeah. 245 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: That remains to be seen. 246 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: The Clintons wanted this to be transparent, They wanted members 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: of the media there. 248 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: They were cool with the. 249 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: Open hearing, with the public watching it as it happened. 250 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: What ended up happening instead, Yes, you have this closed 251 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: door meeting, but one member of Congress, Lauren Bobert, decided 252 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: to take a photo, a clear violation of the rules, 253 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: and leak it out to a right wing podcaster, who 254 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: of course put captions and interpretations on Hillary's face. It 255 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: just was completely and totally a rules violation. 256 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: And you look through some of that more than I did. 257 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Can you summar give kind of not the verbatim booking, 258 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: an idea of the stuff he was saying. 259 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just was basically saying, look at Hillary, this 260 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: is the first time she's being forced to answer to. 261 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: Questions surrounding Epstein. 262 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: And the big thing is he was pointing out she 263 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: doesn't look happy, and so it was kind of like 264 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: it was kind of like a haha, look at her, 265 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: she's on the hot seat now kind of a thing. 266 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: And then the one that felt very manipulative is this, 267 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: I can't believe people are upset this is insane. It's 268 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: just a photo, as if rules are meant to be broken. 269 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean that was really the attitude. 270 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: And Okay, they know what they're doing, and he is 271 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: part of and who knows that this was a planned 272 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: ahead of time? 273 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: Very possibly so, But this is just a what transparency? 274 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: This is what we're doing? Epstein files? What was that 275 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: thing called the Epstein Transparency Act? 276 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: Yes, how could it be? Having cameras inside that hearing, 277 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: having cameras watching that deposition live? You know, every network 278 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: would have just salivated over that. And so the big 279 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: question is why why have it in private? Why have 280 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: then a photo leaked? Why not at members of the media. 281 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: And look, and Democrats came out in the middle of 282 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: this pause and had a lot to say, and they said, 283 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: they said, look, we have not learned one new thing, 284 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: not one new thing. And they said they were appalled 285 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: by Republicans' behavior and un seriousness about the investigation. This 286 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: is truly they called it the clown show, as you mentioned, 287 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: and this is what they said. They were more concerned 288 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: about getting their photo op of Secretary Clinton than holding 289 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: anyone accountable. 290 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: And that's pretty much what Hillary said as well. 291 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: The interopening statement from the beginning roles this is just 292 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: meant to embarrass the Clintons. I don't even know if 293 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: it's meant to actually get information or get them to 294 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: pursure themselves. I think it's just meant to embarrass the Clintons. 295 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know how effective this picture was, but 296 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: they I do really feel that they are on their 297 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: way to accomplishing their goal, which is to embarrass. 298 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: Look, it wasn't a flattering photo. 299 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: It was you know, when you're taking a photo when 300 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: you don't want someone to see that, you kind of 301 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: put it down, so you've got this angle of like 302 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: downwards looking up. 303 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: And so yeah, it was. 304 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: It's just I just find it so disrespectful and frankly 305 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: appalling that an elected member of Congress would sneak a 306 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: photo and leak it while a deposition is going on. 307 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: That's the antics of someone who is a teenage who's 308 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: an I don't just not an elected member of Congress 309 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: who's a grown ass woman. 310 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: I don't understand. 311 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: I want to give you know, I'm trying to give space, 312 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: right she got caught up in the moment and did 313 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: something she shouldn't have, and I want to give space. 314 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: But but ropes. This is just one where it seems 315 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: clear from the moment they subpoena these folks the direction 316 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: this thing was going. And they have kind of confirmed 317 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: I guess Robes with that picture. Who knows what the 318 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: questions are legitimate in there. Maybe we'll see it. But 319 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: the picture kind of confirms the unseeriousness of these proceedings. 320 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: It confirms that this isn't you trying to be transparent, 321 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: This isn't you trying to get answers and whatnot for 322 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the victims. This isn't about victims. 323 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: Yes, and so the Democrats have made demands now because 324 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: of this. 325 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: They came out the chair of the excuse me, the 326 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: ranking member and the Democratics he came out, and so 327 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: some of the things he's out, Wow, I can't wait 328 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: to hear the responses to this stuff, and chief among them, 329 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I would love to see whether or not Bill Clinton. 330 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: Are they going to give him cameras? No? Probably, But 331 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: he who wants to go up against Bill Clinton on 332 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: live television in an arena, he knows better than anybody. 333 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: He's been in that arena a bunch and I think 334 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: he probably won most of those fights because he's still 335 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: standing and he finished his two terms after being impeached. 336 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: That is a very good point. 337 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: What you got from me now that I ain't seen before. 338 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: I would love to see that show down. 339 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: Well. The Democrats are also asking for Trump to direct 340 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: Pambondi to release all the files unredacted on a day 341 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: where there are some notable missing files. They're all asking 342 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: that Trump on equivocally rule out pardoning Ghlainne Maxwell, What 343 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: do you think of that one? 344 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. We've talked about this for a while. 345 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: While he has not like he could easily say no, 346 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna partner. He's been asked and asked and asked, 347 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: and he has had every opportunity to say he would partner, 348 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: and he has gone around that. I think he's sometimes 349 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, it's not really something I've even thinking about. 350 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that name in a while. I don't 351 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: even know he dances around that thing. And the Democrats 352 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: today made the point, Yes, she's essentially been bargaining, negotiating 353 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: in public almost for a pardon from this guy. And 354 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: when she did her with Todd Lance right. 355 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, she got the lovely move to a what I forgot? 356 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: What they call it the always cushy. 357 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: You're the one that used They always ask you the name. 358 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: It's camp said, I think campedes together. 359 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: We figured it out camp fed. 360 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: But yes, this cushy woman's prison, and this is only 361 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: for non violent offenders. She is a sexual predator. She 362 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: is convicted of sexual abuse of minors. Yes, that is 363 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 2: a violent conviction, so she should not be there. 364 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: But her interview robes. Very little came out of two 365 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: days of interviews. What did come out. She went out 366 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: of her way to praise President Trump and to say, Nope, 367 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: he never did anything wrong, never saw him do anything wrong, 368 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: never heard him do anything wrong. She has seemingly done 369 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: everything she needs to do to make sure she stays 370 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: in his favor, saying the right things. And it sounds 371 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: like he's keeping that card in his pocket as well. 372 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was just going to say, because 373 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: he absolutely could rule out pardoning her right now and 374 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: put an end to all of that speculation and conversation. 375 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: That isn't good for him. There's a reason why he 376 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: is not putting an end to it period. 377 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: It looks bad, but. 378 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: We don't know what the reason is. But it seems 379 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: as though there is one now. 380 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 2: The other thing, and we've talked about this, but they 381 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: made it very clear Democrats during this break that they 382 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: want Trump. 383 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: To post good luck. But at this point it's worth 384 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the ask, is it not? Yes, if you want to 385 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: bring Hillary Clinton in, who knows nothing, why don't you 386 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: bring in the person who we already know knows more 387 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: than Hillary Clinton? And oh yeah, her husband's coming tomorrow, 388 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: former president. Oh so, President's a fair game now, so 389 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: bring him in. That is obviously not going to happen, 390 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: but it's a asked. The other thing, Robes, as we 391 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: wrap here, is going to be We did it this morning. 392 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: We talked about it this morning. Robes, this is going 393 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: to be a big, big deal and a big headache 394 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: for the president. Where are those missing files? That has 395 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: now been discovered? Three missing interviews from a woman who 396 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: claims that President Trump sexually assaulted her when she was 397 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: a minor thirteen eighties. Now we know that the interview. 398 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: The FBI did at least four interviews with this woman 399 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen after Jeffrey Epstein's case came up. 400 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: Four interviews. One of them she talked about the abuse 401 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: Epstein did to her and then the others she apparently 402 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: talked about Trump. Those details of those interviews are now. 403 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: Missing, and the Justice Department has said that they're going 404 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: to go back and take a look at why they 405 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: were not included and get back to us and. 406 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: Get back to us. But the thing is Democrats have won. 407 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: It was clear today when they came out from this 408 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton deposition, several of them. So they are about 409 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: to drive this into the ground. They are going to 410 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: drive this. He has a brand new headache. Until those 411 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: files come out, there is now going to be this storyline, 412 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: this narrative ropes that they have jumped on. There is 413 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: a woman out there who is detailed to the FBI 414 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: a sexual assault when she was a miner by Trump, 415 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: and the details of those interviews she did with the 416 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: FBI are missing from these files. That at least deserves 417 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: an answer well. 418 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: And unfortunately for President Trump, again these are just allegations 419 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: and he's denied all wrongdoing, but by having them be 420 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: missing now there is a massive glaring spotlight on them. 421 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: And we have to keep saying President Trump has never 422 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: been accused of any wrong doing, any any criminal wrongdoing 423 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: and connection to Jeffrey Epstein, not once has something like 424 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: that come up? Officially, I should. 425 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: Say yes, because this allegation certainly would would point in 426 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: the other direction. 427 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: But Robes, it's missing. They're missing. But Democrats think they 428 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: have one now and they are going to drive drive, 429 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: drive that point home. Well again, folks, as we speak, 430 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: she continues to be deposed. We don't know what's going 431 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: to happen. We didn't expect this update. Actually, we didn't 432 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: expect to do an update at all because it's a 433 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: close hearing, right, We're not suppose hearing you. 434 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: We're supposed to wait till we get the video and 435 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: the transcripts, and look if Democrats can at least push 436 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: for that, that does seem like a reasonable ask given 437 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: the events of the day, to say, hey, within twenty 438 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: four hours, we want full transcripts and a full video, 439 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: unedited release to the public. 440 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: End of story. 441 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: We shall see. 442 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: And with that, everyone, thank you for listening to us. 443 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 3: We always appreciate you. 444 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: I'm maybe Roebuck alongside DJ Holmes, and we will be 445 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: talking to you soon.