WEBVTT - Legally Brunette: Karen Read 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi guys, welcome to Legally Brunette. I will be your 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.280 host today Emily Simpson and my co. 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:07.600 Host Shane Simpson. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:09.040 All right, so first of. 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.399 All, we're going to go to just a little bit 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.400 of a brief update on the Menindez case. So, there 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:20.480 were two prosecutors, Brock Lunsford and Nancy Theeburg, who filed 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.720 notices of claim on Monday that they intend to sue 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:30.000 DA Hawkman and the Deputy District Attorney John Lewin for retaliation, defamation, 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.960 and discrimination. So these two prosecutors said that they made 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.720 a presentation last October arguing that Eric and Lyle Menindez 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.159 should be re sentenced in their nineteen eighty nine murders 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.120 of their parents, Jose and Kitty because their imprisonment no 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:50.159 longer served the interest of justice. Some high ranking La 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:56.040 County prosecutors disagreed with the move, including their supervisor. So 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.960 this is according to their notice of claim. Hawkman announced 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.600 his intention to review the decision after handily defeating Gascon 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:08.560 last November. So as we know they have, they have 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.280 a hearing coming up on March twentieth and the twenty first. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.840 So these two das have been big supporters of them 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.320 being re sentenced, and they're saying that now Hawkman has 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.679 come in and that they've been demoted. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:22.080 So one of them. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.880 Says that he's now been moved to a calendar clerk 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.960 or something like that, and then the other one claims 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.080 that she received high regards in her position, but now 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.920 she's been moved to something else. So they're saying that 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:38.360 they've been retaliated against because they've been supporting the resentencing 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.679 of the Menendez brothers. Also, what's interesting is they're hearing 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.720 on March twentieth and twenty. First, if you guys have 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.440 not heard, they will be. They're supposed to be attending 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.400 this hearing in person, which will be the first time 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.440 in thirty years that they've been seen in public, so 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.240 that that will be a media storm. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.240 Absolutely, And also are you gonna be there? 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.400 I would love to be there if I can get 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:04.880 a ticket. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.080 And also I heard that they cannot wear regular clothing. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.280 Like if you remember when Luigi made his first Luigi Mangioni, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.760 he made his appearance, he was like decked in designer. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:18.400 I mean, he's gonna wear his prison uniform. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:19.840 They're gonna they're gonna wear a prison. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.519 Well, the reason is because he's already sentenced. He's they're 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.000 already in jail. So when they have someone on trial 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.480 innocent before proven guilty, right, so they don't Sometimes they 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.240 don't want the jury to prejudge by seeing them in like, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.639 you know, an orange jumpsuit, right, so they have home 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.440 dress and then come into the court and then change 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.920 back into their jumpsuit or whatever the uniform is, go 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.120 back to prison weather and custody. So I'm guessing this 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.520 time it just doesn't matter because the judge already knows 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.679 they're in jail, and it's just a resentencing hearing. It's 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.680 not a guilty not guilty. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.880 Right, and just a reminder that it's not the da 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.480 Hawkman who makes the decision for them to be resents. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.760 All he does is make a recommendation to the judge 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.200 and then the judge ultimately decides right. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.600 But important nevertheless, because he's still presenting evidence to the 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.959 judge right and making the case right. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.160 Exactly the case. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.560 Based upon everything that we've heard about Hawkman so far, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.640 my gut feeling is that he's not going to be 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:20.880 very pro recently. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.560 Now. I saw him on TV like a couple months ago, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.600 I don't know why because I wasn't following the case 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.520 as close as you. But he he made a good point. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.000 He goes, I'm not just gonna just throw it in 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.400 front of the judge because it's popular and because it's 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.080 all over media. He goes, I'm now in, you know, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.640 in my position where I have to review it. Like 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.720 he's kind of like, okay, now it's it's on my desk. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.920 I got to review it. I gotta like, I can't 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.920 just go off of everyone's word because it's on Netflix. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.560 And that was true, but you know, only to come 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.040 to this point where it sounds like it's a little 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:57.080 power trip for him. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.240 Maybe yeah, all right, So we're gonna move on. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.560 And we've already done two podcasts on the Blake Lively 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.960 Justin Baldoni mess. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.040 That's what I call it. It is a it is 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.360 a p R. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.840 It is a juicy mess. If you haven't listened to 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.120 our first two podcasts, go back and listen. We go 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.640 through up until today where we're going to start. First 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.720 of all, the last thing we have not spoken about. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.159 They did have a hearing. It was a pre trial conference, 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.800 and basically what happened was there was a gag order 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.400 that was requested. They really wanted Brian Friedman to shut 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.720 up and stop talking. Brian Friedman, he's out there a lot, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:38.800 he's out there on TMZ, he's he's doing podcasts, He's 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.160 talking a lot. And I find it really ironic that 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.039 they're telling him that he needs to stop talking, considering 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.400 that when they filed that initial complaint with the California 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:54.360 Civil Rights Department that they I mean, it looks to me. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.359 Allegedly, it looks like they just colluded with the New 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.800 York Times and the New York City. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.880 Reynolds wants it to continue to be one sided. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.359 It was very It was very one sided. The article 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.640 was very one sided. It was not a balanced article. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.800 And again, if you recall we've talked about this in 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.880 our first podcast, they gave Justin Baldoni's side, very very 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.880 little time to respond. I think they got an email 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.120 the night before basically saying, hey, do you want to. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:16.880 Respond to this? 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.159 So anyway, what happened was and the hearing, the judge 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.880 basically said, let's just follow the you know, the professional 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.680 rules of responsibility, which is Rule three point six, which 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.159 says which basically bars lawyers from making statements publicly that 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.640 could sway the outcome. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:30.839 Of the trial. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.520 First of all, to me, that is a very generalized 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.200 broad statement. I mean clearly, any attorney talking on behalf 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.839 of their client is going to advocate. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.800 Well, I think, I know, I know, but I think 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.240 the ideas because you see them making press conferences all 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.200 the time right from big profile, high profile cases, So 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.800 I think the ideas they can. They're supposed to only 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.240 go on there and say things like my client's innocent. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.919 We're going to argue. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.000 Zellously blah blah blah, not giving specific facts like they 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.320 can deny things, but you don't want them to come 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.880 in there and you know, give the you know, taints 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.320 the jury with evidence that may not be admissible in court, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:10.880 but they're throwing it out there right public. 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.120 But what also is interesting is that Brian Friedman and 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.320 Justin Baldoni's team released the website two days before that 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.760 pre trial conference where they were going to discuss a 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:24.760 gag order. So I call him the FAFO attorney because 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.880 he knew that that was going to be discussed. They 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.760 want a head and through that website out there. Anyway, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.039 if you have the chance to look at it, what 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.880 he did was he put the amended complaint on there 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:37.520 and also the whole text message email chain between him. 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.599 There's text with him and Ryan Reynolds, there's all the 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:43.760 text with him and Blake Lively. I think that was 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.120 just the point they were making, was that they're they're 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.520 the side that's being transparent. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:48.520 They're just putting it. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.039 All out there, and they're probably arguing two cases, one 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.400 in court and one with the public. 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.919 Well, that's absolutely and I would say at this point 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.479 he's winning in the public. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:58.480 It's if this is. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:03.000 A if this is the court of pr and publicity, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:04.520 Baldoni is on. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.600 Top of this team. Baldoni. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:07.320 Yeah. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.080 So also in this hearing, Justin Baldoni's attorney, Brian Freeman, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:15.080 claims that his client is devastated financially and emotionally, and 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.040 he also wants to depose Blake Lively quickly and get. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.240 Right into discovery. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.520 Then I also saw he did Brian Freeman did a 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.080 podcast the other day. There's a new podcast called Two 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:29.040 Angry Men, which is Mark Garregos and Harvey Levin, who 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.680 is the TMZ guy, And on that podcast, Brian Freeman 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:37.040 was making reference to Justin Baldoni. Basically losing four projects 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.960 because of these accusations against him. So when people are like, wow, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:45.320 four hundred million dollars, well, that's because they're going to argue. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.520 They're going to argue that those are the damages and 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.400 that's what's been lost. So Lively's attorney claimed during this 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.520 hearing that they're going to file an amended complaint. The 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.040 amended complaint was supposed to be filed by February fourteenth, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.000 So I really thought when we recorded this podcast today 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.920 that we would be able to discuss her amended complaint and. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.840 Who is Okay Lively is amending her complaints? Do we 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.920 have any idea what she's trying to amend. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:11.920 Well, here's my thoughts. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.760 First of all, if she's amending the content, like I 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.200 have more allegations against him, I find that to be 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.440 suspect because if you were originally going to file a 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.160 complaint about someone, you had months and months to prepare it, 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.800 you're working with The New York Times on it, you 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.920 would have thrown everything out there in the beginning. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:30.400 You wouldn't have held stuff. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.320 So it's not an amendment to add evidence, it's just 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.720 an like cause of action. Well, because evidence is for trial, right, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.959 So I mean it's probably yeah, you're right, it's probably 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.160 more causes of action. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.480 I don't know what those are. I assume they would 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.640 have been originally. I do think that she's probably going 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.600 to add Jed Wallace. He is the guy that is 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.360 in Texas that he was named in the original complaint 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.320 that Blake Lively filed. Or he has some kind of 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.040 PR type of business where I don't know he does, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.000 like astroturfing or bots or something like that. So Blake 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.400 Lively wanted to depose him in Texas. Then he filed 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.600 a seven million dollar lawsuit against her for I think, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.960 for some type of defamation because she named him in 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.680 the complaint. She didn't name him as a defendant. She 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.000 just named him in the complaint and talked about how 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:23.679 he was, you know, colluded us. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:24.280 On the automation. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.360 When it's in court, you have the immunity quasi immunity, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.000 which you know, you're allowed to say things in court 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:31.479 make those accusations. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:32.320 I don't know. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.120 Anyway, maybe publicly she also threw it out there or something. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:36.640 I don't know. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.719 Well, I mean, he's named in this complaint and everybody's 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.439 talking about all these PR people that are all involved 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.120 in these smear campaigns, and so he got pulled into 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.199 this smear campaign against. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.520 Sure, I want the deposition of Taylor Swift. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.160 Yes, well, that's interesting you bring that up, because when 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.400 Brian Friedman did this podcast recently, Harry Harvey said to him, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.840 you're you're clearly going to depose Taylor Swift, right, And 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.560 he said, you know, I don't know. We'll figure that 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.600 out at game time. And Harvey's like, are you kidding me? 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.960 Of course you're going to depose Taylor Swift. She was. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.600 She was at their home on that January fourth meeting 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.400 when supposedly Ryan Reynolds be rated justin Belton the balcony 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.199 scene or yeah, and apparently you know, she was there 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.560 when they were having the conversation about this balcony scene 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.800 and they were all, you know, gung ho about Blake's 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.560 you know, and everything. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.640 You think Taylor's sing. What the heck? Why did I 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:28.520 become friends with her? 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.760 Well, I mean, I have read some things and this 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.160 is just alleged. I don't know exactly what Taylor Swift 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.520 is thinking, but clearly there's people you know, close to 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.440 Taylor that are saying she's distancing herself from Blake Lively 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:41.840 and that she doesn't want to be involved in this 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.360 lawsuit and she doesn't want to have anything to. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:43.760 Tell with it. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.760 Taylor Swift should give Blake Lively some advice, and you 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.000 know what that would be, shake it off. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:49.680 Shake it off. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.280 That was a good one, Shane. I didn't even know 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:53.480 you knew Taylor Swift song. 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.120 I just know that one. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.520 So there we go. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.360 Hopefully when they am in a complaint gets file, we 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.120 will do another podcast. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:01.960 We will talk about it. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.080 We will figure out did she add in new causes 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.959 of action? Did she add in new defendants? What's going 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:07.800 on there? 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:13.160 When she amends the complaints, then there can be allowed 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:18.040 a response to those to the new amended causes of action. Okay, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.600 just to be clear for the listeners. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.120 All right, So here's some things that have been going 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.800 on in the media with this Blake Lively and Justin 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.800 Baldoni situation. First of all, I don't know if you 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.440 saw this, but Colleen Hoover is back on Instagram. She 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.079 deactivated her Instagram, I'm sure because she was just getting 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.720 hit with she went on polse. 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:48.440 Yes she did. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:50.320 She is now back. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:12:09.199 But yeah, right, So she's back on Instagram. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.280 We'll see what happens there. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.199 I did read in an article that she had removed 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.680 anything that really had to do with Justin or Blake 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.240 or it ends with us. I mean, I'm sure she 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.120 doesn't want to give people an avenue where they can comment. Now, 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.360 if they want to comment, they have to find, you know, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:32.679 a picture of Yeah, that would be that would be 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.840 a that would be a series. So Blake Lively right 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.440 litigates with us. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:40.880 That's a good one. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.680 So Blake Lively is now seeking Justin Baldoni's phone records 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.480 to show that there was a smear effort against her. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.040 This was in a Variety article that came out last night. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.920 Blake Lively's lawyers sent a subpoena on Wednesday, February thirteenth 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.840 for Justin Baldoni's phone records. Lively's attorneys sent subpoenas to 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.400 three phone carriers, AT and T, Risen and T Mobile 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:08.640 seeking phone records. What's his meant, No, that that one 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:14.959 has a protective order? Probably kidding, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:27.319 He's like he gets he's like denied. Yeah, I don't 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.520 know who our cell carrier is. That's interesting. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.960 They're seeking records pertaining to Baldoni, the producer Jamie Heath, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:38.080 who is one of the Wayfarer founders, and billionaire Wayfair 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.839 Studios co founder Steve Sorrowitz. The subpoenas also seek the 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:47.880 phone records of Abel, she is Wayfarers and Baldoni's publicist. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.319 She is the one who her phone was confiscated by 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.280 Stephanie Jones, who is. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.920 Another PR person. There's so much PR people at. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.240 The suppose it and release it. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.920 I don't know about that subpoena, but anyway, Jennifer Able 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:10.240 her phone was confiscated by Stephanie, and then that's how 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.640 they propagated all those text messages that Blake Lively used 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.199 and her complaint and that The New York Times also used, 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.600 and allegedly that's. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.880 Kind of a little sneaky. There was something going on there, right. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.840 Oh yeah, of course, I mean if you in in 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.360 Justin's complaint, he lays out that she went to the 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.320 to work one day and then she got put into 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.280 a room and there was a security guard there and 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.640 they confiscated her phone and they made her sign all 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.560 these documents and it was her personal cell phone, her 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.520 personal cell phone number. Then Blake Lively gets a hold 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.280 of all these text messages that she uses in her complaints. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.600 I wouldn't don't ever give up your cell phone. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.120 No, race is like that. No, you just throw it. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.560 If anything, they'd start to go for you throw it 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.280 out in the past, so you don't have. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:54.320 To give them the cast code. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:55.880 Yeah, that's true. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.440 The subpoenas seek the phone records Amable and publicist Melissa Nathan. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.200 Melissa Nathan is the publicist who is the crisis PR 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.720 publicist that Justin Baldoni hired. You know when the movie 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.160 came out. He's hearing that he's been referred to as 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.200 a sexual predator. He hires the same PR crisis management 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.840 team that represented Johnny Depp. So not so he has 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.320 a regular publicist and then he hired this crisis management team. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.040 So there are so many PR people. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.200 I know that's the way it's deviating. But do you 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.480 know how much money is being made off of everyone 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:35.720 outside of this, all the like social media stuff, articles written, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.360 you know, TV shows or whatever, news casting. Then you 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.160 have all these PR crisis people that are hired. Who 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:47.240 knows how many therapists are hired. The lawyers are hired, right, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:48.920 tons of investigators. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.840 It creates so much like money. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.440 Yeah, but but these. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.480 PR people are all being sued and they're all suing 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:56.920 each other, so they also have to. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.560 They're also PR people are hiring PR people, They're hiring. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.800 Attorneys to defend them. I mean, they're all suing each other. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.840 It's just it's a mess. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:06.920 Send them all to an island. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:10.160 So where are we at? 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.400 Lively's lawyers also sent subpoenas to two internet providers, cloud 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.760 Fare and Aol, as well as to Jed Wallace, who 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.440 we talked about earlier. He's the crisis consultant who is 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.400 accused of launching a digital army against Lively on Baldoni's behalf. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:28.280 I anticipate that when she files her when Blakely, Blakely, 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.000 Blake Lively, see, I have to say her name so 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.560 many times. I just made it Blakely. When Blake Lively 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.880 files her amendic complaint, she's probably going to add Jed 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.920 Wallace in as a as a new defendant. Brian Friedman, 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.200 Baldoni's attorney, said that Lively is seeking calls, texts, and 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.520 location data stretching back more than two years, and he 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.840 calls it a massive fishing expedition, and it demonstrates that 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.760 they are desperately seeking any factual basis for their provably 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.720 false claims and that they will find none. And I 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.840 know he is working on a platform. We're talking about 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.600 Brian Friedman, we're talking about Justin's attorney. He is working 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.880 on a platform of transparency. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:08.960 So that's been their thing the whole. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.680 That's my means, I got nothing to hide. Let's get 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.360 it all out there on the table. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.400 Right, And that was the whole point of their website 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.040 was to say, look, our hands are clean. Here's everything. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.800 We're not hiding anything. Here's all the messages to. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.800 The other end, here's all the crap that Blake is doing, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:27.000 so have at it. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.879 So Justin Baldoni, there was a recent podcast he was 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:35.080 actually the podcast was actually taped before the Blake Lively 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.640 court filing. It was taped back in November. I don't 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.359 know why they held onto it so long, but it 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.080 just got released a couple days ago, so I'm not sure. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.119 I don't know if they recorded it and they always 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.320 had the intent of holding onto it this long, or 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.840 it just worked out that way. But anyway, he appeared 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.320 on an episode of the Gents Talk podcast. It was 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.600 released on Monday, February tenth. The installment was filmed back 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.760 in November of twenty twenty four, which is a month 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.159 before or Lively filed a lawsuit against her ends with 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.200 US co star and director. He says, quote, this morning, 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.399 I sent a text message to my best friend Jamie. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.760 Jamie's involved in way Ferirr. He was a producer on 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.199 the movie, and the president of my company, Tara, and 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.080 I told them that I wasn't in the best place, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.840 Baldoni said on the podcast. I told him that I 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.119 was exhausted and that I haven't given myself time to 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.159 recover or time to heal. Clearly, on this podcast, he 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.800 doesn't go into any details about what's going on in 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.000 his life, and at that time, I'm sure the interviewer. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.320 Doesn't know to ask more. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.840 Questions because they don't know exactly what he's making reference too. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:40.199 But now we know, I'm sure he's making reference to 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.280 the year and a half of hell that he had 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:42.960 to deal with. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.280 Okay, let's talk about the regular stuff. Have they been 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.840 in court yet together? They haven't any. No, they haven't 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:48.720 made an appearance. 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:49.879 Together when they both have to go. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.879 Well, here's my thought on stuff like that. And you 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.879 know what the Amber heard Johnny Depp stuff. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:56.280 I don't think it's going to get that far. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.960 It may not, but you think it's it'll settle. I 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.600 think someone will drop it. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.280 I think it has to settle. Because do you think 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:09.240 that Blake Lively wants to be deposed by Brian Friedman? 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.359 I know she doesn't want to take two parties, so 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.639 she can offer all she wants. He'd have to accept. 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:15.520 And I'm I'm speculating. 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:16.000 I don't know. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.600 I would think that he might be like, hell with this, No, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.680 we're going to court like Johnny Depp did. Johnny Depp 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.639 wasn't trying to get two million bucks or whatever. He 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.480 was trying to say, I'm clean, she's nasty, she pooped 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.320 on my pillow and I was making a movie, right 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:32.879 or whatever? 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:33.800 He does right right. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.199 Well, you know that's interesting because they also in that 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.560 podcast that Brian Friedman just did, they said, you know, 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.600 would you be would you be willing to settle? 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:41.160 Wow? 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.919 And he doesn't say yes or no. He's very smart 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:44.920