1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to know your foe on Colts dot Com and 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: in depth book at the upcoming matchup. Here are your host, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Casey Valier and former Colts wide receiver Bill Brooks. Welcome 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: in and know your foe right here on Colts dot Com. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: I am your host, Casey Valiat and I'm joined as 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: always by Culturing of Honor member Phil Brooks. The regular 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: season is here. We can finally start talking about meaningful 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: football and getting us up to speed on the week 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: one oppointent versus the Colts is the Houston Texans. We 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: are joined by the Voice of the Texans, Mark vandamer Mark, 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: how are you? Thank you so much? And we got 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: meeaningful football this Sunday. Well, it's a pleasure to be 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: on with you guys, and a pleasure to be on 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: with the most valuable, the most special Ring of Honor 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: member and Colt sit three, Bill Brooks. Because I'm a 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: Boston University alumnus, so I am very much a Bill 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: Brooks fan, So this is very cool for me. Well, 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty cool. You guys kind of go 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: back to your college days, I'm sure for Bill in 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: for you, Mark, this is a you know, a crazy 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: meeting here down the road. Yes, it is. Well, you know, 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: it's funny. You know, it's funny. I always say this 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: about being in this business. It's the people you were 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: a fan of before you got in the business that 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: you can kind of get sort of star struck about 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 1: or really impressed me, Like to me, Bill Brooks, Wow, 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: you know I've hung around with Andrey Johnson and J. J. 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Watt here, and not that that's not special. It's very special. 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: But you're in the business, you're employed. You know, at 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Boston University, I was just a student and I looked 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: up to Bill playing on Nickerson Fields artificial surface and 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: winning games, and it was awesome to see him and 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: that Terrier team operate, which no longer exists, by the way. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: So it is a treat for me. Well, one of 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: the things I want to dive into. You know, you 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: talk about the past, So let's talk about right now. 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: What's going on with Houston. You got a new head coach. 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Is the second year of this We saw the David 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Culley experience lasted one year and now a veteran Lovey 40 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Smith comes in. What have you seen the major difference 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: between you know, the transition from David Culley into Lovey Smith. Well, 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: with love Me Smith, you have a coach who has 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: coached over a decade as a head coach in this league. 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: And you know, he's worked with some incredible players. I mean, 45 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: think about when he was in Tampa Bay with Marvin 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Lewis and those teams, and you know when Marvin Lewis 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: was there with Tony Dungee and you know, the whole 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: crowd there was really impressive in the nineties. And then 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, Lovey eventually gets the baird's job in the 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Os and look what he does with them, and goes 51 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman at quarterback and 52 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: has some really great defenses. And you know, I always 53 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: say that it's just the offenses that never quite worked 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: out the way they could for Lovey in Chicago. But 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: look at the wins. You know, he's got a winning 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: record as a head coach. And you know it's funny 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: because Gary Kubiak when he was here, he left with 58 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: a record that was some five hundred, but eventually won 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with the Broncos. Bill O'Brien actually had 60 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: a bit of a winning record, but it wasn't going 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: well at the end. Obviously that's why he was dismissed. 62 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: And now you have Lovey Smith here who knows how 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: to get the job done. And I think the fact 64 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: that he hasn't coached in a while as a head 65 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL is actually a plus. He's been 66 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: in college, He's seen how things operate there, and somebody 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: influenced that the college's college game has had on the NFL. 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: And the same could be said in a way from 69 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: a coordinator spot with pet Hamilton, who was last an 70 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in this league with the Colts, as you 71 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: all know, but he says he's learned a ton over 72 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: the years, you know, working in college, working in the 73 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: XFFL even he cites that just putting the minds together 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: that are on his staff and coming up with an 75 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: offense that is going to be different than what he 76 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: ran in Indie. There's some similarities for sure, but he's involved. 77 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: So I'm eager to see the whole thing what this 78 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: staff puts together. Now, when you look at it from 79 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: a fans perspective, what's the biggest difference you think you 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: will see when you, you know, let's say Texans fans 81 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: are watching what they saw in twenty twenty one. Here 82 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, what do you think the biggest 83 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: difference you're going to see on the field is going 84 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: to be, Well, look, you're going to see an offense 85 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: that is not the Patriot offense. Okay, and I hate 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to call it that, but that's basically what this was 87 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: what they've been running under Bill O'Brien, and then after 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: O'Brien left, with Tim Kelly pulling the switches, and I 89 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: think that now it's going to be a little bit 90 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: easier for the quarterback. Davis Mills has been very clear 91 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: that the old line kind of conducts business themselves, justin. 92 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Britt will make some calls at the line as far 93 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: as the middle linebacker and all that, and some of 94 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: the blocking scheme stuff. Mills will handle the passing game 95 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: elements of what needs to be checked off at the line, 96 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: and they'll go from there. The quarterback heavy element of 97 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: that Patriots offense is palpable, you know, and it's tough 98 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: for rookies. And I think it's a credit to Mac 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Jones and Davis Mills both last year that they were 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: able to have pretty decent seasons. Mills, especially in the 101 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: last five starts statistically at a good season. You know, 102 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: when you look at the rookie quarterback class from twenty 103 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: twenty one, Mills is right behind Mac Jones and a 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: lot of these stats that everyone likes to look at 105 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: in the advanced analytics as well. So I think that 106 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: they both did pretty well. But I think the simplification 107 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: of this, and I hate to even use that word, 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: but it'll be a little easier for him to handle 109 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: at the line will really help Mills and would help 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: any quarterback because I just think it's a more friendly 111 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: offense for the quarterback to operate. Not that it's vanilla 112 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: or anything, because Pep has a lot of stuff up 113 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: as sleeve, but it'll be the ease of operation will 114 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: be there for Davis Mills, you know. Speaking of difference, Mark, 115 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: this is Davis mills second year in the league after 116 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: starting leven games last year, and as you mentioned, he 117 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: also has a new office of coordinator in pet Hamilton. 118 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: What have you seen in mills development from his rookie 119 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: year until now. I thought the offseason went really well 120 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: for him, and I thought early in camp I could 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: see that he was a more confident in command player. 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he was miles ahead of where he was 123 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: as a rookie. All right, early on in camp in 124 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Tyrod Taylor is here, Bills is clearly 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: the backup. If that I mean they wanted him to 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: have those backup reps so he could get up to 127 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: speed as quickly as possible because they knew the situation 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: they were in. I think Nick Kasserio did a great 129 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: job drafting Mills in the third round. You know, you're 130 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of buying the bananas before they're ripe, you know, 131 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: like you buy the bananas at the store and they're 132 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: a little brain, but you bring them home and then 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, in a day or two they're good to go. 134 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: And I think that was Mills. You bring Mills here, 135 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: you let them ripe in and develop here instead of 136 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: in college. You know, Mills came out, so he's going 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: to be somewhere and there while you have in twenty 138 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: twenty two a quarterback that is you know, I can't 139 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: say he's good to go like a veteran and quarterback 140 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: has been around for five, six, seven years. It's not 141 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: like that with Mills. But at least he had that 142 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: rookie year under his belt. He at eleven starts last year, 143 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: the last five went pretty well, and you take it 144 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: from here. Now he's got to do it on the field. 145 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: You know, he's gotten a lot of praise around town 146 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: media and national media whatever. A lot of people are 147 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word hyping him, but 148 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: they're giving him a lot of praise and there's a 149 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: lot of optimism for good reason. But now you've got 150 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: to go out and execute. And I always say this 151 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: everybody in this league, and Billy you know this. Everybody's 152 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: always got to get better no matter who you are. 153 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, if you're in the number one picking the draft, great, 154 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: but you've got to get better from there. You were 155 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: drafted for your potential, not for what you can do 156 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: on day one. You've got to be able to improve 157 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: steadily and he needs to continue to do that. So far, 158 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: he's done it, so that needs to continue to progress 159 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: for him. Well. A big help to the quarterback will 160 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: be a good running game. And it looks as though 161 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: the technis draft of a good running back in the 162 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: fourth round out of Florida and Damian Pierce. What have 163 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you seen from this young man in training camp thus far? 164 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: All right, So in the preseason games. Well, let's just 165 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: go back to camp. Camp. He could see some things. 166 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: You know. It's funny, once you put on the pads 167 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: in camp, you start to see, Okay, maybe this running 168 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: back looks pretty good. Let's see how this pans out. 169 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, last year I just didn't see a whole 170 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of just a whole lot of potential in the 171 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: running game and training camp. I thought mark Ingram was 172 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: going to be pretty good, and he was, but the 173 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: rest of it just didn't quite come together the way 174 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: you wanted to see it, because I've seen it pretty 175 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: good around here in the past with guys like Arian 176 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Foster and Ben Tate. But this wasn't really happening the 177 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: way you want to Last year. Well, this year, Pierson friends, 178 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: especially Pierce, it started to look better in camp. Then 179 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: in the preseason games. Pierce participated in three possessions in 180 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: the preseason games. That's hit three possessions, eighty six yards 181 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: on eleven carries, and he scored a touchdown. They scored 182 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: as a team on two of those possessions. That was good. 183 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: So two out of three possessions. You score eighty six 184 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: yards on three possessions, that's an unbelievable production for this team. 185 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: I know it's a preseason, but it was a good sign. 186 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: And again now you got to see it translate into 187 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: regular season success. They were bottom of the league running 188 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: the football last year. That has to get better. You 189 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: have nowhere to go but up, and I think it will. 190 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: With Damian Pierce, he could be really good. But you 191 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: know it's a rookie. You don't want to crown him yet, 192 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: and you want to see it happened on the field. 193 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: So let's all watch together on Sunday. We're joined by 194 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the voice of the Houston Texans, Mark Vandamir Sticking with 195 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the offense for a couple more in your assessment because 196 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: he kind of in mind. I think Brandon Cooks might 197 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: be the most underrated receiver in the league. Would you 198 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: agree with that testament. I love that you said that 199 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: because I use the word underappreciated. I think the football 200 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: people know. I mean, this guy's been traded for a 201 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: number one pick twice and a number two pick once, 202 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: so that shows you the value that he does have. 203 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, he hasn't been able to find 204 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: a home until now. This is his third season here 205 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: and he is a routine, thousand yard guy. And I 206 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: think that, you know, had he been able to stay 207 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: in New England, and I know New England strange. You know, 208 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: it's hard to like stay there long term for a 209 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys. And you're a certain quarterback, but it's 210 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: hard to stay there a long term for a lot 211 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: of guys. I think he would have been tremendous with 212 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Brady over the long haul. I mean, he's a total pro. 213 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: This guy's a captain on this offense. He and Davis 214 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Mills have been elected captain's. Cooks is the kind of 215 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: player you want on your team. Total team guy and 216 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: makes explosive plays at receiver, can play in the slot, 217 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: can play outside, I can play anywhere and do anything 218 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: for your team. I love that he's on this squad. 219 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: And then you have Nico Collins who's in his second 220 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: year now and some moments last year and you want 221 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: to see him take that next step. Former colt Philip Dorset. 222 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: He looked good in limited action last year, some big catches, 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: some chemistry with Mills. Got hurt again. Can't have that. 224 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: We all know what, you guys know what. I Dorset 225 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: stays healthy. He's a good player, So that's the big 226 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: if that has to come through for him. And there's 227 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: some other players as well. They just picked up Tyler 228 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Johnson from Tampa Bay. He was free. And then you 229 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: have Chris Moore, who made some plays last year, and 230 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: I know that he's one of those guys who's kind 231 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: of looking to find his groove and I think in 232 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: camp you could definitely see it. I love stories where 233 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: guys have been in the league for a few years 234 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: get labeled to be a certain way, but then they 235 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: bust out of that and they take that jump. And 236 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: I think he can take that jump for this team 237 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: this year. We'll see how it goes. Now, what do 238 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: you expect out of oj Howard. I know it's you know, 239 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: newly to the Texans, but he's a tight end. He's 240 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, a former first round pick. You expect him 241 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: to have a pretty big impact. You know, it's hard 242 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: to say because you're looking at him and you're thinking, 243 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: this guy looks like a mountain. I mean, he is 244 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: a large individual, and you know he's made plays in 245 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: this league. You know, he had the injury issue what 246 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: two years ago, and he all right, So you're with 247 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and you're with Buffalo. Well, those teams are loaded, right, 248 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: so maybe, just maybe he could find a home here 249 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: to be really productive and reach his full potential. And 250 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: a lot of that is going to hinge on the 251 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: whole in concert element of the offense, right, are you 252 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: able to run the ball as Mills able to get 253 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: the time to throw it and throw it accurately? Because 254 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: I think if those are happening, Oj Howard is gonna 255 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: have a nice season for the Houston Texas. I like 256 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: to pick up. They were getting a little thin at 257 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: tight end because of injuries and other issues. They lost 258 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: a couple of guys in camp. One of them are 259 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: rookie Tegan Coturiatos on IR he shouldn't be up that long, 260 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: but you know, thank goodness, IR is now minimum four 261 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: games instead of you know, the season is over, goodbye. 262 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: So I like I are the way it is now. 263 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully they get Utriono back because he is a 264 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: really good looking player as a rookie, but he needs 265 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: to play, so we'll see. The final thing on the offense, 266 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: when you look at the offensive line, looks to be 267 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: essentially a new group outside of Laramie Tunsil and Titus Howard, 268 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: how does that group look to this point. Yeah, they 269 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: had just a brit last year, but he missed a 270 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: bunch of time because of an injury. So him at 271 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: center is a good thing. I mean, he's really like 272 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: sort of a quarterback as most centers are, the quarterback 273 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: of the old line. I love Titus at right tackle. 274 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: He did not play there last year. He needs to 275 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: be at right tackle. That's his home, that's his spot. 276 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: I think he can play some left as well. But 277 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: he's a tackle and they try to make guard a 278 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: lot last year just to give it a shot and 279 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: it did not work out the way they needed it too. 280 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Which he and Laramie on the edges. And this Kenyon Green, 281 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if he starts him out. He's not 282 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: listed number one on the depth chart, but I gotta 283 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: feel that he's going to be seen a lot and 284 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: they might rotate him. I don't know how they're gonna 285 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: do it. They're not going to show their hand. But 286 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: this Kenyon Green from Aggie Land here in Texas is 287 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: really something to watch when he's run blocking and the 288 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: last preseason game he was just bowling people over. Now, 289 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: pass protection could be another issue for him. He's a 290 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: rookie's got to learn. You guys know this, and you 291 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: talked to old lineman in the offense, say, well, took 292 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: me two or three, maybe four years to figure it out. 293 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, listen, we cannot wait. It happened early, but 294 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, so there's going to be some growing pains, 295 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: you know. And you don't have a quarterback who's gonna, 296 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, run for eighty yards a game here in 297 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Davis Mills. He's athletic, but he's not gonna do that. 298 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to hold up in pass pro. 299 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: But if you could run the ball, well, obviously that 300 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: makes things a whole lot easier. Now, Mark when to 301 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: move to the defense. Last year, Jonathan Grenard led the 302 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: team with eight sacks, and this office and they edit 303 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: former Coast defensive lineman Jevu to the defense. What are 304 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: there expectations of this defensive line defens a front this season. 305 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: I like the defensive line. In fact, I think the 306 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: defensive line is the thickest, deepest possession of yeah, a 307 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: position group on this team, and I think that they 308 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: are going to reek havoc. They're gonna be pretty good. 309 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Now they're a little nicked up right now, which is 310 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: strange because it felt like they had seventeen d linemen 311 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: on the ninety man roster, and you know, we do 312 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: shows every day, we're thinking, I'm sure Lovey Smith wants 313 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: to keep fifteen guys because he love he just loves 314 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: these four man fronts and he loves not having a 315 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: cent extra people to get pressure on the quarterback. And 316 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: they did that last year. You know, despite the record 317 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: and despite the total defense, statistically last year they were 318 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: top third in the league and takeaways and that's because 319 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: they get into the backfield. These guys find a way 320 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: and you know, we talk about Jerry Hughes and Jonathan Grenard. 321 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't care who's in the game, They're gonna find 322 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: a way to get back there. Because the way that 323 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Lovey coaches defense. Now they've got a new defensive line 324 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: coach and Jacques is there who played in this league, 325 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: and I know the players love them. They love to 326 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: have a guy who played in the league and relatively 327 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: recently really has a you know, fresh memory of things 328 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: that happened in the NFL to him. I think that's 329 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: a big help. But they're gonna be effective up front, 330 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, MALIEK. Collins is a nice player for them. 331 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez inside this Kurt Heiness they got from Notre 332 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: Dame undrafted free agent. You know, it's funny with these 333 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: kinds of players because you look at them at OTAs, 334 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: he can't tell much out of pass. Then training camp starts, 335 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: you're thinking, I think he's got a shot to make 336 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: the team. And he got to a point where after 337 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: the last preseason game, there's no way he's not making 338 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: this team. And Hiness is on this team and we'll 339 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: be heard from. He'll be in that rotation. He's gonna 340 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: play a lot of snaps I think, and make plays. 341 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the kind of player inside defensively that 342 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: can get into the backfield not only make stops of 343 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: running backs, but you know, get maybe get to the quarterback. 344 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: And that's going to be very helpful on a rotational basis. 345 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how they line up to start, but 346 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: he'll play. Lopez is an athletic oak tree. And on 347 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the outside, you know Obo O'karonquo who's from Houston and 348 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: they got it from the Rams. I know, you know 349 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: the Rams of the Rams and they're loaded to Obo. 350 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Here is going to be a valuable part of this rotation. 351 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: So I really enjoy watching these four guys play. Whoever 352 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: four is in the game now I moved to linebackers. 353 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Two of the leaving tackles from last year. We're Guge 354 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Hill and Christian Curcy. What will the Texas need from 355 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: these two players nor for the their defense to be 356 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: successful this year? Well, Kurtsey is a captain and he's 357 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: their leader, so he's he's green duck guy and Camu 358 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: Gruge Hill is a menace out there. I mean, he's 359 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: the Tasmanian devil, relentless energy. He knows who he is right. 360 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: He has to play well on special teams and he 361 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: has to fly around at linebacker and play with relentless energy. 362 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: The good thing is they are not shy about rotating 363 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: players in So Garrett Wallow, who was a little nicked 364 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: up in camp but really had a good offseason overall, 365 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: is a second year player from TCU. They drafted him 366 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. He's going to be seen an 367 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: awful lot. He where's number thirty two, So it's like 368 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: he's not that big, but you know he wore fifty six. 369 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: He would look bigger all right now with these uniforms, 370 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Like thirty two is a flimming number to me, And 371 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: you know it's like, is he a safety, that's a 372 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: pretty big safety. Now he's a linebacker and he's a 373 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: good one. You know, it's too bad for them that 374 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Christian Harris got hurt, who is a draft choice from 375 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Alabama from this year, because they really have high hopes 376 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: for him. But we'll see when they can get a 377 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: knack into the fray. They really they really enjoyed watching 378 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: him on tape and hope for the very best there. 379 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: Blake Cashman, a former New York Jet who always had 380 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: injury problems with that franchise, is here and he is 381 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: impossible not to notice during camp. I don't know how 382 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: you guys handle it on your show and podcasts, but 383 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: during camp we have this category impossible not to notice. Well, 384 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: that was Blake Cashman. I mean he's making tackles left 385 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: and right, preseason games, training camp practices and fullpads, and 386 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: I think he's he's going to be a factor. They 387 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: also have this Jake Hanson, an undrafted rookie from Illinois 388 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: who played for Love You at Illinois who made the team. 389 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of a surprise, but it 390 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: really wasn't. When you looked at the take, you know, 391 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: you just thought, all right, this guy's in on every play. 392 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna you look at the ball, he's there. So 393 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: let's see if he can be a factor in these 394 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: regular season games. I'm not even sure if he's gonna 395 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: be up or not, but he's on the squad. I 396 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: like the linebacking crew as well. The front seven to 397 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: me looks real solid and has some depth, and it'll 398 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: be tested here because, like I said, they have a 399 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: couple of guys nicked up on the view line. A 400 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: couple more things here with Mark Vandimir the voice of 401 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: the Texans. One of the things we haven't mentioned yet 402 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: is that secondary they've invested, you know, pretty highly in 403 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: the draft, with Derek Stingley and Jalen Petrie early in 404 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: the draft first and second rounds. What are the expectations 405 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: out of the rookies. I know it's hard with a 406 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: rookie year to really, you know, dive into what the 407 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: expectations are, but they're gonna be pretty heavily used. So 408 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Petriot's safety in OTAs you could see it instantly, 409 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: how He's just one of these team leader types. You know, 410 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the Texans had Demiko Ryan's around here for a while. 411 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: Is now the defensive coordinator in San Francisco, of course, 412 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: And I remember Demiko as a rookie in OH six 413 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: and walking out to offseason practices then and saying, that 414 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: guy's a total leader. I mean, that's your quarterback of 415 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: your defense. Day one rookie comes in. I get the 416 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: same kind of sense in the secondary from Petrie. How 417 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: he's a day one leader, stalwart, you know, instant, just 418 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: add water and he's good to go as a rookie. 419 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: And Loveye Smith said as much. I mean he was 420 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: calling him a starter when camp began. He might have 421 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: done it at OTAs and that's very unusual, especially around here. 422 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we lived through, you know, seventy years of 423 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and that wasn't happening. You know, he's a 424 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: lot more careful with how he labels guys. But this 425 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: is kind of refreshing because Love he's sort of honest, 426 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: not sort of, he's honest about things like that. And 427 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: Petrie is definitely going to help this crew on the 428 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: back end. Now. Derek Stingley litl they brought him along slowly. 429 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: But it's funny and I don't know how you guys feel. 430 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, Bill can evaluate an awful lot being a 431 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: former player. There are two position groups that until you 432 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: get into the game, I have trouble evaluating offensive linemen 433 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: because yeah, he looks Bay looks like you can push 434 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: people out of the way. And cornerbacks because who knows 435 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: until you see them play, right. But Stingley, all the 436 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: football people will tell you, look at his hands, Look 437 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: how he moves the footwork. It's incredible. Okay, great, we 438 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: see him make plays in practice, preseason games. Great, Now 439 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna play sixty minutes of football and it's got 440 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: to happen. But he's got all the tools. He's got 441 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: the repertoire of moves as a defensive back to make plays, 442 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: and I'm eager to see him. I'll give you a 443 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: sneaky hot pickup for this team. Maybe if mat that 444 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: sneaky to the football people. I know Frank Rich probably 445 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: well aware of this, but Stephen Nelson the corner of 446 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the gap from the Eagles is definitely helpful. I mean, 447 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: they were not thick at corner last year at all, 448 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: and now they have Nelson and Stingley. That's really good. 449 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: Jesmond King's gonna play. Tavi or Thomas, a really good 450 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: slot corner is injured right now, but he's not going 451 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: to be out forever. He'll be back, So I think 452 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: they can be pretty good there. They're not that deep, 453 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: but safety, you know, jail and Petrie looks good. And 454 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: Jonathan Owens, who I know his national notoriety as someone 455 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: bile biles. He deserves to be known as a football player, 456 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: and he's a starter on this squad. Well, final thing 457 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: for you, I know that the word rebuild is kind 458 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: of tough when you're talking about sports, so I like 459 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: to kind of throw retooling out there. This roster. You know, 460 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely got some talent, but I don't know if 461 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: this is their year. What are the expectations for Houston? 462 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: Kind of looking in twenty twenty two, but mainly looking 463 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: into the future. Well, you know, look, I've done all 464 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: these seasons with the Texans. I can tell you this. 465 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: A lot of the media fans ramps down. They're like, yeah, 466 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: if they win seven, that'd be good. Six or seven great, 467 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, but even winning six or seven, obviously it's 468 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: challenging to win any game in this league, and then 469 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: you're losing. You know, if you lose ten games, that's 470 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: a journey of losses. You know, however, you want to 471 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: pepper them throughout the seventeen game schedule, and people are 472 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: going to grow impatient because you lost games. If you 473 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: lose close games, you shouldn't wanted. If you lose blowouts, 474 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: where are you? Why aren't you competitive? So I think 475 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: that we're all going to go to the bumpy ride together. 476 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of potential here. You know, they have 477 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: a lot. I think they have a lot of games, 478 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: and I hate to call games winnable, but games in 479 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: which they should really be competitive. The Giants, the Bears, 480 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: the Jaguars twice, they should be competitive in these games. 481 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: They split with the Titans, the number one seed in 482 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: the AFC last year, and at home the last game 483 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: of the regular season. They had them not on the ropes, 484 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: but they have them a little worried in the second half, 485 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: and had the Texans won that game, the Titans aren't 486 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: the number one seeds. So yeah, look at the cults 487 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: at the Jags. I don't need to bring that up 488 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: to it. So a strange league, and I just think 489 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of potential here for some victories 490 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: and they, you know, they got to get over the hump. 491 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I always feel like this. This is a 492 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: league where in the fourth quarter it's about third down. 493 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Are you stopping the opponent or on offense, if you're 494 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: up or down, are you converting? Because if you're down, 495 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: you gotta keep converting the study in the game. If 496 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: you're up, you gotta keep converting to keep the other 497 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: team's offense off the field. Third down of the fourth 498 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: quarter is such a key stat for me. Well, there 499 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: you go, Mark Vanamir, the voice of the Texans. We'll 500 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: see them week one here coming on Sunday, and we 501 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: won't see the Texans again til week eighteen, so we'll 502 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: see kind of that growth throughout the season. Mark, thank 503 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: you so much for the time, and enjoy the game 504 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Thank you, gentlemen, and go be you yes right, 505 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: go Terriers. You got it once again. Big thanks to 506 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: Mark Vandamir the Voice of the Texans, for joining us 507 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: on No Your Foe. The regular season gets underway in 508 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Houston on Sunday. The Cults will travel there to take 509 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: on the Texas for the first divisional game, first road 510 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: opponent of the season, and that kicks off at one 511 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern. The Colts will be on the road again 512 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: next week as they travel to Jacksonville to take on 513 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. We're gonna talk with Mike Deroco of ESPN 514 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: for a complete breakdown on the Jags next week. But 515 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: as we mentioned, it's Sunday, the regular season opener in 516 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: Houston as the Colts take on the Texans for a 517 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: divisional battle for Bill Brooks. 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