1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome to a Wednesday edition of 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris. Glad to 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: be with you on this wonderful Wednesday evening. Last evening 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: in March tomorrow when we get on the show with 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: John McClain, and of course Mark will be here as well. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: That will be draft month. Oh my goodness, I cannot wait. 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: We are less than a month away from the NFL 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Draft that we got plenty for you tonight. Drew Door's 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: gonna stop by in our next segment and we're gonna 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: talk about the coaching staff, something we talked about on 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: our in the Lab podcast. We'll have that for you, 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: talking about differences, not better or worse, but differences how 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: good coaching staff can really aid this ball club, this 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: organization going forward. So we'll talk a lot about that. 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: In the next segment, we'll go around the NFL, because 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of happening in the NFL, including 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: seventeenth game made all official. I can't remember the days 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: are all running together, whether it was yesterday or today, 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: but it was made official and I have I have 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: my own theory for the seventeenth game. I want to 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: get into that. We'll do that later in the show. 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna kick it off with one of the most 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: recent editions of the Texans, a trade made between the 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: New England Patriots and the Houston Texans. As True to 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: the Heart Texans. Marcus Cannon, right tackle offensive lineman, joins 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Mark and I had a chance to 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: catch up with them. This was really fun stuff to 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: catch up with former TCU hornfrog and Odessa high star 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon. Welcome to the Texans, Marcus, How you doing good? Good? 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Well, thanks for being on. It's 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on. And I was gonna 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: ask you, like, how do you like Houston so far? 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: But here we are in COVID still, so you really 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: haven't had time to come in and get assimilated into 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: the building and all of that. Is that kind of 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: strange that now you're with a new organization, but you're 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: really not in the building and in the scene yet. 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: It's got to feel a little different. Yeah, I feel 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: a little different. I actually went up there last week 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: and met all the coaches, checked everything out, and it's weird. 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't quite know where I'm going in there. Yet, 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't wait to get in there. Though, Marcus, 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: A lot has been made about the fact that you 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: love Texas, grew up here, you grew up in Adessa, 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: you pledge your ball TCU, you spent some time in 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: the Northeast, and now you're quote unquote coming home. How's 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: that few to be back in the state of Texas? 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: Is that true? Are you that big a fan of 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the state of Texas that you just wanted to come 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: back here and be back here in the finest state 51 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: in America? Man, I'm so excited to be back and 52 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: playing here. Yeah. You know, all my families here and 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, I love this place. I 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: have ranches here, proper here, and man, you don't get 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: any better than Texas. Marcus. Talk about the offensive line 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: and how you I mean, I know that you guys 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: haven't practiced yet or anything, but you know how you 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: see yourself in this line? Where are you gonna line up? 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: How it's all gonna work out for you? What are 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts, what are your hopes? Just discuss that for us, 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: if you could. Well. In my career, I've played four 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: different positions and you know there's we haven't really gotten 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: to talking where I'm playing or when I'll be playing, 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: and you know that's fine with me. I'm just you know, 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be on the team and be able 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: to help them and however they need me, you know, 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: any position they want me to play, I'm ready. I 68 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: have done it, and I'm ready to do it again. 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Let's go, Marcus. A lot has been made. I have 70 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: some friends, I say in air quotes, and whenever we 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: talk about offensive line play, they look at me and go, 72 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: it's a difference between a garden and tackle. There's no difference. 73 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's three feet to the left or right. 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: How big a difference is it to play different positions 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: on the offensive line? Man, They're all it's a big difference, 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: and all of them. You know, some things stay the same, 77 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: but just your technique going from tackle to guard and 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: then on the other hand, going from right to left 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: is different. You know, different foot four, different technique, and 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, the hand placement and how your moving is 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: all the same. But it's just I think getting your 82 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: body used to it and having those reps at whatever 83 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: position you're playing, just so you can get those technique 84 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: down and get everything mastered. And get to where you 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: need to be to play in the games. Marcus, playing 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: on the old line when you're pass blocking and a 87 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: touchdown pass is thrown, and you've been a part of 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: some really big ones and a lot of them high volume, 89 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: is that the most enjoyable thing? Or is it just 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: knocking somebody over at a run play that's successful? I mean, 91 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: how do you see it as an old line and 92 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: a lot of guys prefer the run blocking. But again, 93 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: you've been part of a very successful passing offense in 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: your career. Man anyway would get that touchdown. That's the 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: greatest fielding on the field. You know, working utel off 96 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: and you know you spring one, you throw one, you 97 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: run one. It doesn't matter if if it's a touchdown. 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: I love it. You know, I love driving guys and 99 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: you know the running back gets to their runs all 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: the way. It doesn't matter how you get touchdown. I 101 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: love it. Now, Marcus, you can look at the screen 102 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: and realize that the two guys that are talking you 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: are way way way older than you, way older than you. 104 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: So I want to make sure I say this properly. 105 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: But you've been around the league for a little while now, 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: you're the sage wise veteran. How important is it to 107 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: you to impart your wisdom onto some young guys that 108 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: really really needed, some guys coming into the league, some 109 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: guys that have been there for a year or two. 110 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: How important is it for you to impart that wisdom 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: things you've learned onto those guys as they move forward. Uh, 112 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, in my career, I've I've had highs, I've 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: had loads. I've had where I was a swing tackle, 114 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: where I was required to the start position that I 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: only had, you know a couple of weeks and maybe 116 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: even a week or two to learn. So um, you know, 117 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: it's it's great. I'd like to give what I know 118 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: and in part my wisdom on those guys in any way, 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: if they want it, I'll give it to them. But yeah, 120 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: if they if they want it, I'll give it to them. 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: And you know, if if they do ask me to 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: to do be in that type of position, and I 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: grateful to help and teach guys what I learned, and 124 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's just tell them how I had to 125 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: go through everything. Marcus Cannon with us, Marcus, you're part 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: of a TCU offense with Andy Dalton that quarterback and 127 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: you guys had some success, no doubt. Do you still 128 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: stay in touch with those guys and Andy and you know, 129 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: discuss that for us if you could, the TCU connection 130 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: and how long it's lived for you. Yeah, I still 131 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: say stay in touch with a lot of those guys. 132 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: Last year, I was playing a little bit of softball 133 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: with some of a little guys, and you know, I 134 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: textany here and there, and you know, he texted me 135 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: when I signed with these guys and what the Texans 136 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: and I sign. I texted when he signed with Cowboys, 137 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: and also texting when you know with the Bears, and uh, 138 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, we all we all stay in contact with 139 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: each other and uh sometimes you know, we see if 140 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't COVID, we usually go to Patterson's house every 141 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: year and have a little barbecue and we all get 142 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: together and you know, but because of COVID, we didn't 143 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: do it last year. But you know, it's it's crazy 144 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: how tight the TCU team that I played for, and 145 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, even the guys under us are. We try 146 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: to stay in contact with each other and a lot 147 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: of us end up staying around the FW area. So 148 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: it's been good. One of the greatest names in college 149 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: football history, Tank Carter. Some reason, I just see that 150 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: guy in the Rose Bowl making those plays. Marcus. I 151 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: thought about you knowing we're gonna interview you. Yesterday was 152 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: March twenty eight, and that's a pretty important day, apparently 153 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: to the Internet, into the people in the Northeast. You're 154 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: not walking back into that building, gonna be playing your 155 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: ball in the same building where that took place. And 156 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: what people people don't know it's the twenty eighth to 157 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: three come back to beat the Falcons in the Super Bowl. 158 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: What's your biggest takeaway that you remember from that game? 159 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: You know all these you know, all these years ago. 160 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: What do you remember most about that twenty eighth to 161 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: three come back against the Falcons that happened at Energy Stadium. 162 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: The most thing I remember is all my family getting 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: to come because it was in Texas, and yeah, you 164 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: know that that might have been on my list of 165 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: the greatest ones we've been to. I think that was 166 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: the best because I was around all my family right 167 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: here in Texas. Was nights and warm. But I don't know, 168 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: there's so many things from that game. You know, we 169 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: had to come back, we had to stick together, as 170 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: a line and come through. But you know those are 171 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: old memories, just the whole memory of that whole bowl. 172 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, I love it. It's one of my favorites. Marcus. 173 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: When you see guys like Nick A. Serio, Jack Easter b, 174 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: James Lippford, guys who used to be with the Patriots, 175 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, being in Texas is one thing, but having 176 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: some familiarity with those guys has to help in the transition. 177 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: What do you think, Uh, yeah, it was. It was 178 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: great for seeing those guys again. You know, I was 179 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: real close with Jack and you know Nick was in 180 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: our everyday meetings. He was available for to us when 181 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: if whenever we needed him. So I created a good 182 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: relationship with both of those guys and I'm happy to 183 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: be a part of the same organizations them again. Marcus, 184 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned it a little a little while ago about 185 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: COVID and you opped out of the twenty twenty season, 186 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: and for good reason. You're a cancer survivor. Your hats 187 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: off to you, man, You're just an incredible individual. I 188 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: have been asked about that from different people, and I 189 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: always go back to Mark and Iron the building. We 190 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: always watched the lineman shuffle down the Hallway in weeks 191 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen sixteen because their body is so beat up. 192 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I can imagine you love football, But how did your 193 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: body feel different in December this past year than it 194 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: felt in December from previous years after fifteen sixteen games 195 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: and just beaten on top of guys and going through 196 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: that rigorous sixteen game schedule plus playoffs, and my body 197 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: feels great. It feels the best I've ever felt. Uh. 198 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: You know, last year I had that shoulder injury and 199 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: then before that ankles, and you know, this year I got, 200 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, a whole year of just being able to 201 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: you know, go outside, run, did some lifting. My favorite 202 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: machine now is my first climber because it gets those 203 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: calories out as fast anything. But it just it just 204 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: felt good to go buy a year and you know, 205 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: just work out, nothing to no physical hitting and all that. 206 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: And you know, my neck feels great. My fingers, you know, 207 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: usually offensive linement fingers hurt a year after the season's over, 208 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: and you know, everything feels good on you know, very 209 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: fortunate to have gotten that time off, and I'm very 210 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: thankful for how I used my time, because I could 211 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: have just sat around, but you know, I got moving 212 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: and tried to stay in the best shape I could. 213 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm excited marcause you're from Odessa, right, 214 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: So this is the land of Friday night lights. I mean, 215 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: you know that part of the state. It's everywhere in Texas, 216 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: we know, but that part of the state there's something 217 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: different going on. Have people asked you about that throughout 218 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: your career, like, oh, my gosh, that's the part of 219 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: the state where you know a book is based on 220 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Permian actually and all of that. How do you relay 221 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: that to people? The religion that is high school of 222 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: football and that part of Texas well, that's it's always 223 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: a great conversation with Somebody asks me, and that's where 224 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: you're from. I say Odessa, and they immediately stay Permian 225 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: And you know I went to the other school, Ohdess 226 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: and how we actually beat my two two years there. 227 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: But man, that's Odessa, West Texas. Everything shuts down. It's 228 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: when when that game comes around. Everybody the only thing 229 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: they're thinking about is high school football. And you know, 230 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: the kids there work hard. They work hard as hard 231 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: as they need to work for when they come to college. 232 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy. The things that we did in high school 233 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: just to prepares for a game. And then when we 234 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: got to college, it wasn't anything crazy Premier territory. You know, 235 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: we got to work hard as hard as we did 236 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: back back home. And you know those guys, those kids 237 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: put a lot of effort into it at the coaches 238 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: and you know they're doing a really good job out there. 239 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: That's why everybody knows about West Texas football is because 240 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: everybody knows how serious it is when you're there. Well, markets, 241 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: go ahead, one more, Johnny, all right. We asked this 242 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: of everybody as you get ready for a game. Everybody 243 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: gets ready in their own different way. A lot of 244 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: people listen to music. What's your go to pregame music 245 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: to get you ready for battle? Oh? Man, there's a lot. 246 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, I listened to like or a hip 247 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: hop piano covers, and other times I listened to Christian rap, KB, 248 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: any Manio and I. But most of the time I 249 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: just sit quiet, watch some film and just really try 250 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: to get my head in the game. Usually about the 251 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: two hours up to the game, I'm, you know, no 252 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: headphones in. But when I get to the facility and 253 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm you know, doing my hot tub coach tub in 254 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: the training room. That's usually what I'm listening to watching 255 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: my film, and once that time hits, you know, all 256 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: electronics go away, phone gets put on do not disturb, 257 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just me and whatever sounds around me, 258 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: and then trying to focus and envision the players that 259 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: I'm about to play do that during that week. Well, Marcus, 260 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: it's been great visiting with you. Welcome to the Texas 261 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: once again. We look forward to seeing you on the 262 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: field and seeing you in the building. All right, thanks 263 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: for having me, guys. Nice meeting all you. That was 264 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: fun stuff with Marcus Cannon. Oh that's a high star 265 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: TCU star All America Can Cancer Survivor World Champion when 266 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: he was with the New England Patriots. Great to catch 267 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: up with Marcus. Cannon's such a super sweet guy and 268 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: we really had a fun time talking to I can't 269 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: wait to talk about Handeman projects. That's gonna be fun. 270 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: Handyman projects are always fun and apparently he gets his 271 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: hands nerdy, maybe a little bit more than I, but 272 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: I will say I did install three fossets at the 273 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: house this past weekend. Yeah, handy Johnny, Yeah, that's the 274 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: way it goes. Okay, By the way, I thought about 275 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: this as I got the zoom interview from our friend Omar. 276 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: Before we started that interview, Mark's like, hey, Marcus, look 277 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: at this, and he's wearing a TCU Drive Fit T 278 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: shirt under his Texans pullover and totally pandering. And I 279 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: think Marcus kind of liked it. I was giving him 280 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: the business for it. But Mark pandering to the you know, 281 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: to the newest Texans Marcus Cannon. Guess it's okay. I 282 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: guess it's fine. It's not like it was Harvard or 283 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: anything like that. It was TCU, So I'm cool with that. 284 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: Purple and white, those are nice colors. I'm cool with that. 285 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon will eventually be coached by James campin Offensive 286 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Line Coach. We talked about the coaches Drew and I 287 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: did on our in the Lab podcast. We'll have that 288 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: for you next right here in Texans All Access. Welcome 289 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: to Texans All Access. 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Now here's 299 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the show. Welcome back everybody to Way Wednesday Atations and 300 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio, the 301 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: mobile version of it. I'm your hostess Evening John Harris, 302 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texas. Now I 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: took over that job in twenty fourteen, and that's a 304 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: it's a key point in what Drew Doherty and I 305 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: are about to discuss because of twenty fourteen, as many 306 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: of you remember, was the changeover from Gary Kubiak to 307 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. Gary Kubiak got in the job in two 308 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: thousand and six after Dom Capers was let go and 309 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Bill Brian took over. Twenty fourteen different coaching staff, a 310 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: lot of differences changes along the way, et cetera, et cetera, 311 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: And so people asked me a lot knowing that I 312 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: knew Bill O'Brien the way that I did. They asked me, 313 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: how's it. You know, how the coaching says is better, 314 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: the coach stuffs better, it's this, it's that, And I 315 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: would always remind them it's different. It doesn't mean what 316 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak did before was worse or what Bill O'Brien 317 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: was doing was better. It's just it's different and sometimes 318 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: different clicks. Sometimes the way that Bill Brian would say 319 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: something was gonna be different than the way Gary Kubiak 320 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: said something. And maybe it was more effective when Bill 321 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: said it. I mean that it's effective with Gary, maybe 322 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: it would be even more effective with David Keulley. Who's 323 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: to say so when the conversation comes up, is this 324 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: a better coaching staff? Is that? Well, we know it's 325 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: it's different. We'll see and do time whether this is 326 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: going to be a quote unquote better coaching staff. Now, 327 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: what I do think we're gonna have here is a 328 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff that really appreciates the teaching aspect of things. 329 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: I feel like that's been a hallmark of all the 330 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: coaching staffs that have been here. Dom Caper's Gary Kubiak, 331 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, now David Culley. They all value being teachers, 332 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: and that I think is a big, big thing when 333 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: it comes to this game. Being teachers, being leaders, stepping 334 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: up in front, taking responsibility, learn and teaching the game 335 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: and helping players still young players still in their twenties, 336 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: learn the game and learn how to be more effective 337 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: as a player. So Drew and I got into a 338 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: conversation about coaching staffs again, better worse. I don't know 339 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: about that, but it's different. So how does different play 340 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: into David Culley's new staff with the Texans. Drew and 341 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I talked about that right about now. Hello, friends, and 342 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: welcome into in the Lab. I'm Drew Doherty. That's John Harris. 343 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: It's good to be with him. It's good to be 344 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: with you. We thank you for listening, We thank you 345 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: for watching. However you're consuming this, it means a lot 346 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: to us because, hey, John, I wouldn't have a job 347 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: if it weren't for the fans. You wouldn't have fans 348 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: because they want to know things about their football team, 349 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: and of course you give it to them. And you 350 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: and I discussed this at the end of last week's 351 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: In the Lab. Yeah, and it's the idea or the question, 352 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: how much better, how much worse, how much of the 353 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: same might the Texans be in twenty twenty one solely 354 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: because of the coaching and what might be enforced, what 355 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: might be preached, what might be emphasized. How much better 356 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: might this team be simply because of scheme, ideas, accountability, 357 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: the differences that come with a new coaching staff. This 358 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: is not to knock you know what happened before, but 359 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: just simply because of a change and what we know 360 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: about how things operate. And this is a this could 361 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: be a very long podcast. We're conductioning you kind of 362 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: given the Reachards digest version, because if you talk about 363 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: the offense, you can talk about the defense, you talk 364 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: about all that stuff. But in general, John, do you 365 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: think about the idea that the Texans might see an 366 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: improvement just because of what's going on in the coaching 367 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: staff change? Well, if you start kind of a thirty 368 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: thousand foot view is looking down first and foremost you 369 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: have different for the most part, you have different voices, 370 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: but you have a different voice at the top. And 371 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: no matter what that is, whether it's going from down 372 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: to Gary Gary to build build a David, the voice 373 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: is different and that I think is going to be 374 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: the first thing, and how the tone is set coming 375 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: from David Culley. So just the voice being different is 376 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: bound to get your attention. And I'll give you an 377 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: example that hits kind of close for me when I 378 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: was I spent my four years with the same coaching staff. 379 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: When I was at Brown play football. Right about the day, 380 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: two days after our season was over, they wiped out everybody, 381 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: brought in a whole new coaching staff. Of course, I 382 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: still had a bunch of friends and we're still there. 383 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: What year was that when you were there when they 384 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: wiped him out? I was there from ninety to ninety three. 385 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: Ninety three is my last season, so ninety four is 386 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: a new season. And Mark Whipple, who went on to 387 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: great things with U mass in college football, so with 388 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, was Ben Roethlisberger's quarterback coach for a while. 389 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: He comes in and so I a lot of friends 390 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: still on the team, and I just would say to them, 391 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: you know, horror things, and a lot of times I 392 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: just got I roll, you know. I raised is like 393 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: it's different, man, it's different as it was. It better 394 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, it's just different. And of course 395 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: at that point, they couldn't tell whether it was gonna 396 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: be better. They just knew it was different, and it 397 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: came a little bit more bite. It was not as 398 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: a sugar ree positive as our head coach was at 399 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: the time, and so they just told me it was different. Well, 400 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: then they got into the season and they were like, 401 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: it's better that those voices resonated with them. The other 402 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: thing about it is when you have a new voice, 403 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's prone or a new leader, everybody's prone to 404 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: kind of perk up a little bit, like, Okay, things 405 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: are new, I gotta mind my p'sacqs here and be 406 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: on time, be on top of things a little bit 407 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: more than maybe I was. Maybe I got a little 408 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: sloppy because I knew what the other coaching staff was 409 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna say, or I knew what Bill was gonna say 410 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday at three o'clock in the afternoon. I 411 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: knew how they were going to react. I couldn't. I 412 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: could live with that. But all of a sudden, new 413 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: voice comes in good bad. Otherwise all of a sudden 414 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: you're like, all right, wait a second, I gotta I 415 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: gotta figure this out. I better mind watch myself here 416 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: and then we can kind of figure out, like what's 417 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: the right play. And then all of a sudden you realize, hey, 418 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: I like this coach or I respect this coach. I 419 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: respect his vibe, I respect what it is that he's 420 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: teaching me. Well, I like this technique work. I like 421 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: the example he used. You know, James Camping is one 422 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: that comes to my offensive line coach, and you know 423 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers gets on the wall. That guy, 424 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he is exactly yeah, no doubt. And so 425 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: he can say, hey, look, you know Vot Davatar, the 426 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: best left tackles in the league. Yeah, tremendous guy, fourth 427 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: round pick. Hey, when we got him, he tended to 428 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: do this and we gave him this little technique change 429 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: and that helped him. He told us that helped him, 430 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: and so that's maybe something you can incorporate. Maybe you 431 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: want to use this. And I always think that's that's 432 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: the thing. I felt like this as a teacher and 433 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: as a coach, Drew, I felt like I had My 434 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: responsibility was to give my players and my students the 435 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: best opportunity to be successful. And so if they didn't 436 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: like a particular method or they didn't get a particular 437 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: method that I was given to them, and I wasn't 438 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: doing my job because I wasn't finding what it was 439 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: that I could get out of them. Like, Okay, some 440 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: people like to think about two times two is two squared. 441 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: Some people like think about its two times too. And 442 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: so you have to figure out, like, all right, how 443 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: do I how do I give this person a different 444 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: way of looking at it? So I'm like analogists, I'm 445 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: just like the black and white. And so you've got 446 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: to figure out how you get through to these wildly 447 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: talented individuals on a day and day out basis and 448 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: continue to give them tools and tips to make them better. 449 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: And hopefully that's what this coaching staff is able to do. 450 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: He just brought up something that's been it's it's been 451 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: eye opening. And this happens across the NFL. But you know, 452 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: we've been up here in the offices quite a bit. Yeah, 453 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: and we've interacted with a lot of these coaches. David 454 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: Culley is somebody that you know, you see, and he's 455 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: got his style and he's raised or sharp. And this 456 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: is a guy who has preached the two times that 457 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: I interviewed him preach the importance of being a good 458 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: teacher something you just mentioned. Nick Kissio, you know, underscored 459 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: that at the time I interviewed him earlier this offseason. 460 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: Teaching is a big, big deal to these guys. But 461 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: what you talked about the different ways of teaching, it's 462 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: very reflective of who these assistants are because I've talked 463 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: with Camping, I've talked with love Smith. They're not like Cully. 464 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: They're different personalities. And that's gonna be true of a 465 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: lot of these other guys. Tim Kelly, who we know 466 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: pretty well, right, you know, the Danny Barrett, the running 467 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: backs coach who we have a good They all teach 468 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: in their own separate way, like you're talking about the 469 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: two times two versus two squared. So it's gonna be 470 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: interesting to see. And I'm not saying, you know, count 471 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: on X number of wins over yeah, right, you might 472 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: not win as many, you might win less, but there 473 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: is a definite emphasis on that on teaching and having 474 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: different sets of experience in different ways of coming at 475 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: you and teaching you. Because LOVEE. Smith is not the 476 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: same as David Culley, is not the same as Tim Kelly, 477 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: is not the same as Danny Barrett and so on 478 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: and so on and so on. But it's gonna be 479 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: a kind of an interesting gumbo, I think when when 480 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: it all comes you know, to be And here's another 481 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: aspect and the interesting part of this Jerusy're talking about coaching, 482 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: but I'm not talking about the actual coaches themselves. Sometimes 483 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: as adults, we get set in our ways, we get stubborn. 484 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: We don't really want to hear it from our boss. 485 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you can tell me something and I'll 486 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: listen to it more than I will if sometimes Mark 487 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: tells me that because you know something that is our boss. Okay, 488 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is, I think it's gonna 489 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: be very helpful to have some key veterans on this 490 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: team that can teach and coach as well, that have 491 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: the not only the desire to do it, but the 492 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: ability to do it. So a guy like Mark Ingram 493 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: comes in. You know, he's in a situation in New 494 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Orleans where he had to help along Alvin Camary what 495 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: to Baltimore. He had to help along JK. Dobbins, And 496 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't want it to be like, Okay, mark Ingram 497 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: can't play. He can just be a good teammate. No, 498 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: I think Mark Ingram still got something left in the tank. 499 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: But if he takes that wisdom and he imparts it 500 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: onto a young running back that gets drafted this year, 501 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: or a young running back like Scottie Phillips or even 502 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Buddy Howell or even David Johnson, you know there's something 503 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: that he might be able to impart to them. Yeah, 504 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon. And the reason I bring this up, as 505 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: I was asking this of Marcus on Monday, I said, look, 506 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Mark and I are way older than you, but in 507 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: football terms, you're up there in age a little bit. 508 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: You've been around, You've seen some things. How important is 509 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: it for you to share your wisdom with younger people 510 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: and younger players. And he said, as long as they 511 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: want it, I'll give it to him. Yeah, And I 512 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: think that's going to be hugely important because sometimes, man, 513 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to hear it from your position coach. 514 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: You don't want to hear all that. You want to 515 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: hear it from Larmy Tunsil. You want to hear it 516 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: from Marcus Cannon. You want to hear it from Tarrod Taylor. 517 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: You want to hear those things. And as I talk 518 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: and I mentioned Tarrod Taylor. I think of hard Knock's 519 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: the last couple of years watching him on or probably 520 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: two last three years, watching how he acts with the players, 521 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: the things that he talks to them about. Sometimes it's 522 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: something as simple as adjusting the tempo of your cadence. 523 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's up to Lize Scrimmage, what you're looking at, 524 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: Mike points, all that kind of stuff. And so I 525 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: think bringing in the veterans that the Texans brought in 526 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: that Nick was able to sign and bring here those 527 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: guys I mentioned Marcus Cannon to Rod Taylor, mark Ingram. 528 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: So those guys have got they've got plenty of wisdom 529 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: to share, and young players just have to try and 530 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: absorb that. And the ones that do absorb it from them, 531 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: they're obviously absorbing it from the coaching staff. They're going 532 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: to get it from David Culley as well, and all 533 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden it works out to be a much 534 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: better overall situation. Now, there were there were definite sides 535 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: that in the past. There's no doubt it wasn't as 536 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: if that was not the previous coaching staff. But you 537 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: said it, different is different. Different always different doesn't always 538 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: mean better. There might be some things that are going 539 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: to be better of this next staff that some things 540 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: not as much. But we just know it's different, and 541 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: at this point that's all. That's all we know. We 542 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: like the makeup of it. You mentioned a couple of guys, 543 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: James Camp and Lovey Smith. Different. I like the fact 544 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Drew that was this coaching staff. It's sort of a 545 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: buoye base of personalities of Okay, this guy came from 546 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: over here. This guy came from over here. A couple 547 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: of guys are still here. Coley came from here. He 548 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: brought a couple of guys from Baltimore, and you throw 549 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: it together because at that point you don't have all 550 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: one way of thinking. It's different ways of thinking. Hey, 551 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: when I was with the Bears, we did this. Hey, 552 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: with the Packers, we did this. Hey, Baltimore, we did this. 553 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna go with this. We're comfortable with this. Hey, 554 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: but coach, what do you think about this? And I 555 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: think everybody's willingness to share ideas from where they've been 556 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: ends up and you never know which idea it's going 557 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: to be. Maybe it's a fourth dound play, maybe it's 558 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: a coverage idea. Maybe it's a coverage tweak. You know, 559 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: maybe guys that have been here in the building already 560 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: can say and speak to the personalities of certain players 561 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: that new coaches coming in can kind of, you know, understand, hey, 562 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: this guy's a little bit more of a guy who 563 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: learned the board. It's a guy who learns to walk throughs. 564 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: Some of that information will help these new coaches. So 565 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: you throw it all together, it's different. It feels like 566 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: it's going to end up being a really good situation 567 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: for guys that are coming in. But it all depends 568 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: on the ability of these men and women to teach 569 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: every day in every facet of what they're doing on 570 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: a football field and off, and hopefully that's going to 571 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: take place. That's talking about the coaches. And then you 572 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: you were mentioning earlier a byproduct of some of the veterans, 573 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: because you know how some same things can sometimes get twisted. 574 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: You're talking about a nice byproduct of who these better. 575 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: They're brought here to play, no doubt, you know, just 576 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: in case some folks sometimes I'm glad you said that 577 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: because that can be misconstured. And I think you're right, 578 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: and that's why I said about Mark Ingram the fact that, look, 579 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: you brought him into a play if you wanted to 580 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: got to coach, you brought him into coach. You still 581 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: think he's got something left in the tank. The by product, 582 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: like you said, is that wisdom that can then be imparted. 583 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's a that's a valuable, valuable piece. 584 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: What the veterans lose maybe in a half step here, 585 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: a half step there, and quickness and speed and all that, 586 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: maybe they gain. Yes, they compensate with the knowledge of, Hey, 587 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: I know this guy's blitzing over here. I'm just gonna 588 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: go straight over there. I don't have to think about it. 589 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get straight over there. So if a guy 590 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: runs a four to seven forty now when he knows 591 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: who to pick up, but a guy runs a four 592 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: three forty and he doesn't know who to pick up 593 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: on blitz, you know, it's it's kind of simple. At 594 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: that point, the IQ and the football IQ take over 595 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: and get a guy on the field, whereas the guy's 596 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: got to get up to speed. So that's that's kind 597 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: of the way I look at But you're I'm glad 598 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: you brought that up because I think it's true. I 599 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: still think Mark Ingram's got something tank, so Sirrod Taylor, 600 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: Mark Skanne, I think you all do. But that wisdom 601 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: that they have to share, I think is valuable as well, 602 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: no doubt. All Right, I'm gonna leave you with a 603 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: fun fact. I'm pretty sure you already knew this anyway, 604 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: but I bet a lot of the listeners and viewers 605 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: did not know this. Lenny Smith is a defensive coordinator 606 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Hardy Knickerson juniors on the squad right now. Yes, Lovey 607 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: coached him for a season at Illinois in twenty sixteen. 608 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: But Lovey coached Hardy Knickerson Senior as an assistant with 609 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the mid to late nineties. 610 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: So it's kind of fun. You don't often hear about 611 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: or see coaching coaching both a father and son combination 612 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And how about that NFL and college 613 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: And Hardy Knickerson Senior was an assistant under Lovey Smith 614 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: in twenty seven Illinois, So there's all sorts of webbs. Yes, 615 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: webbs is the exact phrasing I was looking for. By 616 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: the way, I was a massive Hardy Knickerson fan coming 617 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: out of cow and in the League two. But when 618 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: he was at Cow, I don't know, there's something about 619 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: him that's just cool. I've always kind of had this 620 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: infatuation with the West Coast and with Cal at that time, 621 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: and Hardy Nickerson was one heck of a linebacker. I 622 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: loved watching him play football. And now Hardy Nickerson junior 623 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: in Houston, which is all kinds of cool. But yeah, 624 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned it at the outset of the segment. Coaching 625 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: staffs are just different. You want every coach to brit 626 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: that you bring in there to make players better. I 627 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: always and I feel like this staff will be quote 628 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: unquote better, But I don't want to denigrate you know, 629 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: previous staffs, previous coaches, etc. But I hope that this 630 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: staff is able to get as much out of this 631 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: roster going forward, and hopefully with Nick Kisserio pulling the 632 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: trigger and personnel, the talent will rise, but it will 633 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: continue to rise as their accumen for football grows, the 634 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: coaching staff grows together, and this team can be what 635 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: we all in Houston want it to be very very soon. 636 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: All Right, we got one second, lef, Let's go around 637 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: the NFL and I want to read this tweet of 638 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: a guy that I follow who is a member of 639 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers media. I thought this was really 640 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: interesting and it leads to my discussion of the seventeenth 641 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: game that became official in the NFL for twenty twenty one. 642 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: There's some ideas. We'll get into those next right here 643 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: on Texans All Access Tess Tess, we back to final 644 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: segment of this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access for 645 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans Radio Studio mobile version. Every time 646 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: I say that mobile version, I feel like I'm in, 647 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, in my car, just like you know, talking 648 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: to you guys and recording it. And that's what I'm doing. 649 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: But it's not quite like that. It's just the studio 650 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: is mobile, like where we're doing the from. It's really 651 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: it's basically just my my radio slash studio slash office 652 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: slash zoom room in my crib. That's really what it is. 653 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm John Harris, Football and ils sideline reporter was great 654 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: Mark and Marcus Cannon to join me. Drew Doherty as well. 655 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: This final segment, let's go around the league and the 656 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: last couple of days. I guess it was yesterday that 657 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: it became official that the seventeenth game was coming to 658 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. We've asked a few players and I man, 659 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: we got to own mark Ingram today. We'll have mark 660 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: Ingram on the show either tomorrow or Friday. Drew and 661 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: I had a chance to catch you mark Ingram. Man, 662 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: you talk about a great interview, Holy cal with some 663 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: fun stuff. Mark Ingram, It's really fun to talk to 664 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: And then we talked to him off the air too, 665 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: and he was even better. So anyhow, well, the one 666 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: question I thought about asking him was seventeen game schedule. 667 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: Your boy Alvin Kamara AK forty one was not too 668 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: happy about that seventeenth game. We didn't. I forgot to 669 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: ask mark Ingram about that. Either way, the seventeenth game 670 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: is it's become, you know, a talking point. Obviously, it 671 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: seemed like it was a negotiating point throughout the years, 672 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: and the NFL really wanted it. I thought Seth made 673 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: a great observation in the day. Seth Payne, he was 674 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: talking about it, said for a long time he didn't 675 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: think that was really what the owners wanted, was a 676 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: seventeenth game or even eighteenth game, but apparently they did. 677 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: So this is the first time since nineteen seventy seven 678 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: that there has been a change in the schedule. In 679 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, not only did we had the mel 680 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: Blunt rule go into effect, which basically opened up the 681 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: passing game, but they Austin went to sixteen games a 682 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: sixteen game schedule at that point, and it has remained 683 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: sixteen games until twenty twenty one. It will now be 684 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: seventeen games for the foreseeable future. We'll see if they 685 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: get eighteen. But I think there are a couple of 686 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: key points. Number one, there was always twenty games. Twenty 687 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: times you could watch your team suit up four preseason 688 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: sixteen regular season prior to now. It'll be three preseason 689 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: venteen regular season. More bang for your dollar. I guess 690 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: if you look at it that way, and the Texans 691 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: will get nine regular season home games, you're still gonna 692 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: get your ten games. It's just that one preseason nine 693 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: regular season now that ninth game. How they got to that. 694 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: What they did was this, they looked at the previous 695 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: years interconference matchups. So in twenty nineteen, we played the 696 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: AF the NFC South, We went to New Orleans lost. 697 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: On the Monday night, we played Carolina, we lost at home, 698 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: we played the Falcons, smoked them at home, and then 699 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: we played the Buccaneers then clinched the AFC South will 700 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: win late in the season. So what they did was 701 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: they went back a year from twenty twenty to twenty 702 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: nineteen and said, okay, who did you play played? The 703 00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: NFC South will match you up by division winner, and 704 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: that's okay. There's there's a kind of mathematical you know, 705 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: I could see how that you're gonna it's gonna be 706 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: evolve and you're gonna know for the most part, all right, Well, 707 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, it's the NFC South will match 708 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: up with. In twenty twenty two, it'll be who we 709 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: match up in twenty twenty that would be the NFC North. 710 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: So let's say all things stayed the same, which hopefully 711 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: they don't both say they do. We finished third place, 712 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: we would then match up with the third place team 713 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: in the NFC North in twenty twenty two, and so 714 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: I think that would be the Vikings, and we will 715 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: go to the Vikings because Panthers we play at home. 716 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: We will go to the Vikings. And then you just 717 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: go through the cycle. So it would be NFC South 718 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: we match up with this year NFC North, then NFC 719 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: West and NFC East and we go on. That wasn't 720 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: our theory. When Mark and I sat down and talked 721 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: about what to do with that seventeenth game, I was like, man, 722 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: I would love to see. At first, I was like, 723 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: it's eighteen games, so we got to do this for 724 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: one of the games, and maybe when we do go 725 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: to eighteen games, this is what they'll do. But I thought, 726 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: there's got to be an opponent that you match up 727 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: with and you play that team every year. I just 728 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: think that's the way it should be done. And if 729 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: it just if it comes out that that's the year 730 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: you face that conferences the opposite conference, so for example, 731 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: the NFC East, so we don't face NFCAST until twenty 732 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: twenty two. Well, under my plan, we would have an 733 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: annual battle with the Cowboys. So you would have these 734 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: annual matchups Washington football team versus the Ravens, Eagles versus 735 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots, Giants, the Jets, Cowboys v Texans. Had a 736 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: couple I had a couple of matchup issues, but I 737 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: kind of found I thought pretty good solutions, Like I 738 00:39:52,680 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: really couldn't find one with the Packers, so At Packers, Steelers, Bears, Colts, Vikings, Browns, Lions, Bengals, Falcon's, Jags, Bucks, Dolphins. 739 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: That makes sense. Panthers Bills, they have a shared history 740 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: considering the personnel they've shared, Saints, Titans, Raiders, Seahawks, Rams, Chargers, Chiefs, Cardinals, 741 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers v. Broncos. You would play those games 742 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: every year, you would rotate home in a way. Then 743 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: when it became time to play those games on your annual, 744 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: your every four year rotation, you just would play them twice. 745 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: So be it. You just play him twice. So that's 746 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: what I thought would be fantastic. But maybe they're saving 747 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: that for an eighteenth game. I don't know. I just 748 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: feel like you would create a rivalry. There's already one 749 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: there between Dallas and Houston, no doubt. So the Cowboys 750 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: Texans is real, really easy, very very easy. Creating a 751 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: rivalry between the oh, I don't know, Chiefs and Cardinals 752 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: a little bit harder. But the more you do it, 753 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: the more a rivalry comes on that. I mean, if 754 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: you think about it, we kind of have a little 755 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: bit of robbery with the Chiefs. It's because we play 756 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: every year seemingly now we won't play this year. But 757 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: but you get the point. There's been a rivalry that's 758 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: evolved out of that particular matchup. That's not the way 759 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,479 Speaker 1: that the league's going. I wish they would have done 760 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Now some team would have said, well, 761 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: we don't like that matchup, that's too far a trip, whatever, 762 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: we don't like that rivalry. You would create one, but 763 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: they're not going to go in that direction. I would 764 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: have liked to have seen that, and I came up 765 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: with sixteen matchups that thought would end up in time, geographical, 766 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: in the same state. Some tie to them would make 767 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: that a really cool interconference rivalry. It won't happen this year. 768 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: Maybe down the road, maybe at the end of a 769 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: TV contract, who knows, But it won't happen this year. 770 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: But one of the things that is going to happen. 771 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: And Mark and I discussed this last night, in fact, 772 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: the two of us really how it's the railway is 773 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: saying this. We were acting as lifestyles of the rich 774 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: and famous. Essentially, Oh, if there was going to be 775 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: an international game, where would you want to go? Well, 776 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: we've been to Mexico City, we have been to London, 777 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: so of course Mark and I were talking about Paris, 778 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about Rome. Well. Aaron Agler, who covers 779 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 1: Packers where Cheesehead TV posted that Mark Murphy, CEO, president 780 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: of Packers, said that Munich and Berlin in Germany might 781 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: be locations for future international games. That would be fun. 782 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: I have not loved the idea of an international game, 783 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: only because I don't like the flight, but everything else 784 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: all about it. Absolutely love both those trips to Mexico 785 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: City and London. Naglos said the Packers won't have an 786 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: international game in twenty twenty one, but we don't know 787 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: about the Texans. Maybe the Texans could be one of 788 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: those that takes place in Munich or Berlin. There's always 789 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to face the Jags in London, which I 790 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: would do in a second. That was such a fun trip. 791 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: I would love to see that seventeenth game be one 792 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: of those rivalries. But I also don't mind every four 793 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: years having an international contest, and we didn't go to 794 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: one of those for a long time. That we went 795 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, we went in twenty nineteen, and that 796 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: would go again in twenty twenty one if asked and 797 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: required to go, would absolutely love it. Munich and Berlin 798 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: get on board with that. Big thanks to Mark, to 799 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon, to Drew Doherty, to you for listening. One 800 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Absolutely truly appreciate all the support. We'll see 801 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: you tomorrow everybody, and as always, go Texans.