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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. We

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Speaker 2: got Kevin Stefanski fired an hour ago. Why was she fired?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's just like a water under

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Speaker 3: the bridge type thing.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 5: They've been through a lot together over the last six years,

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Speaker 5: and you know, this goes back, of course, the Deshaun

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Speaker 5: Watson tray. They've done a lot of good things there.

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Speaker 5: They made the playoffs in twenty they made the playoffs

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Speaker 5: in twenty three, you know, and they had a really

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Speaker 5: good roster he and he and Andrew Berry that they

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Speaker 5: they inherited. Some of those guys that they inherited are

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Speaker 5: still there, Miles, Garrett, Denzel Ward, Joel, Antonio.

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Speaker 3: Wyatt tell like top shelf guys, you know.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I just think like the inability to

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Speaker 5: to to really to take the next step was part

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Speaker 5: of it, right, and how that all tied to a

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Speaker 5: single move. I mean, you think about the damage done

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Speaker 5: by the Deshaun Watson trade, right. It kicks your kicks out,

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Speaker 5: your ability to draft because you lose three first round picks.

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Speaker 5: It kills your salary cap, and that keeps you from

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Speaker 5: doing anything else, at least for a short period of

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Speaker 5: time to fix the quarterback position. And so I think

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Speaker 5: there's an acknowledgment in the building that everybody had their

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Speaker 5: hands tied behind their backs because of the trade, and

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Speaker 5: everybody's got blood on their hands because of it. I

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Speaker 5: just think because of all that history that they had

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Speaker 5: been through, and that that Kevin had been through with

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Speaker 5: the players, you know, it seems to me like Jimmy

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Speaker 5: just made this decision.

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Speaker 3: It's just tough to move forward with the status quo.

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Speaker 5: And so I will say this, it's going to be

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Speaker 5: tough to find a better one than Kevin Stefanski. And

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Speaker 5: I think everybody's going to find out over the next

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Speaker 5: two or three days how much the rest of the

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Speaker 5: league thanks to Stefanski with the amount of interest he's

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Speaker 5: going to get from other teams.

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Speaker 2: Is there a chance Deshaun Watson's the starting quarterback for

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Speaker 2: the Browns next year?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's impossible.

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Speaker 5: It's impossible to know for sure until we know with

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Speaker 5: the coaches right if he's healthy and under contract. I

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Speaker 5: mean that's the thing, like, so you've already so we

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Speaker 5: already know that they're going to pay to Shaun Watson

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Speaker 5: forty six million dollars for next year, right, Like if

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Speaker 5: they cut him, somebody would sign him for the minimum,

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Speaker 5: and so it would be forty five. It'd be like

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Speaker 5: forty five million dollars, you know, So you're already sinking

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Speaker 5: that into it. You've already sunk three first round picks

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Speaker 5: into him, you know. I I think the worst thing

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Speaker 5: for the Browns at this point would be feeling like,

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Speaker 5: all right, like you know, we're gonna move on, and

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Speaker 5: then having him go have great success somewhere else. So

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Speaker 5: I could certainly see the logic and like saying, like,

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Speaker 5: you know, we're paying him anyway, we might as well

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Speaker 5: bring him back.

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Speaker 3: Here's the one caveat to that.

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Speaker 5: The one caveat to that for me would be if

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Speaker 5: you are going to go all in on a young quarterback, right,

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Speaker 5: and if there's somebody and I can't remember where they're

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Speaker 5: pick is you have it in front of you, Dan,

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Speaker 5: it's I think there's four or five somewhere in there,

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Speaker 5: and right, they're not five. The Giants are five, but

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Speaker 5: there's somewhere in there those six six. Okay, So like

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Speaker 5: let's say they decide we're gonna go on them for

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Speaker 5: Nato Mendoza or Dante more and somehow they get in

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Speaker 5: position to draft one of them.

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Speaker 3: Then I can see where it's like, Okay.

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Speaker 5: It's just not worth it having that around, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, like having kind of the ghost of

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks past here in the building, you know, and you

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Speaker 5: want to go with a clean slate for your young quarterback.

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Speaker 5: But if the plan is to go and bring in

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Speaker 5: you know, Kirk Cousins to compete with Shador Sanders and

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Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel next year, if it's something like that, then

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Speaker 5: I don't I'm not sure I see the harm in

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Speaker 5: taking one more swing at it with Deshaun Watson, just

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Speaker 5: to make sure you got that wrong, even as every

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Speaker 5: indication is that you have gotten wrong. And my understanding

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Speaker 5: is just in the in the in the in the

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Speaker 5: near term, like he's actually been pretty good, you know,

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Speaker 5: in the building, and and and and and and through

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Speaker 5: his rehab over the course of this season, So that

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Speaker 5: would be the logic and taking a swing at it,

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Speaker 5: and that you've already sunk so much into it, you're

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Speaker 5: already paying him for next year, so why not give

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Speaker 3: To me, like the one or the one the one.

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Speaker 5: The one caveat there would be if you've got a

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Speaker 5: young quarterback that you want to go all in on,

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Speaker 5: you might want to take him out of the equation

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Speaker 5: just to give the new guy a clean environment.

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Speaker 2: Better opening. Atlanta or Cleveland, You.

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Speaker 3: Know, it depends on what you think of Michael Pennox.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like I I you know, you you would think that

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Speaker 5: whoever's coming in there is going to have at least

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Speaker 5: a year and maybe two years with Pennix. They both

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Speaker 5: have pretty solid young cores. I think, you know, you

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Speaker 5: look at Atlanta, a good veteran offensive line, one of

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Speaker 5: b Jhon Robinson. I don't know if Kyle Pitts will

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Speaker 5: be there, but it looks like he turned a corner.

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Speaker 5: You've got some young pieces on defense that you like

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Speaker 5: that you might like, you know, and the young ass

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Speaker 5: rushers you know, Walker and Pierce that you drafted in

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Speaker 5: the first round last year.

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Speaker 3: But you don't have a first round pick, And.

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Speaker 5: I think I probably maybe lean Cleveland because you get

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Speaker 5: to do your thing at quarterback, right so you get

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Speaker 5: to make your decision at quarterback You've got that great

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Speaker 5: young draft class, and all those guys are going to

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Speaker 5: be on rookie contracts for the next few years. And

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Speaker 5: Mason Graham and Carson Schwessinger and Harold Finnon and the

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Speaker 5: two running backs, Judkins and Samson, and you have.

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Speaker 3: Two first round picks.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, so you've got the ability to kind of

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Speaker 5: build there with the core. You have a couple of

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Speaker 5: older pieces in Warden Garrett. I might lean Cleveland, but

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Speaker 5: it's close. There's there that's not a bear cupboard.

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Speaker 3: In either place.

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Speaker 2: Albert Brier, the Monday Morning quarterback, you've senior NFL reporter.

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Speaker 2: What should Vegas do?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I'd be surprised if Pete Carroll

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Speaker 5: made it the day, you know, I think Vegas needs

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Speaker 5: to figure out how they're going to be set up

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Speaker 5: going forward. You know, I think Tom Brady's got to

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Speaker 5: learn how to run a football team. And it sounds

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Speaker 5: weird coming from me.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's the greatest player of

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Speaker 5: So I don't want to sound like like I don't

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Speaker 5: want to sound like an idiot saying that, but I

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Speaker 5: do think that there's parts of it that you know,

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Speaker 5: people who work there.

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Speaker 2: So there's a difference between running and all different.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, John Elway, I get to tell you this, John Elway,

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Speaker 5: when he got back to Denver in twenty and eleven.

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Speaker 3: He eventually became kind of difficult to work for.

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Speaker 5: But at the beginning, like there was a very real

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Speaker 5: acknowledgment on John's part of what he didn't know, you know,

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Speaker 5: like and he really rolled his sleeves up and learned

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Speaker 5: how to how to scout and how to evaluate and

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Speaker 5: like that. You know, that isn't as simple as like, yeah, well,

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Speaker 5: I you know, I played in the league for a

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at. Of course you do, but it's not

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Speaker 5: What's you know, what's his role in all of that is,

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Speaker 5: is he committed to learning to run the show because

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Speaker 5: a lot of people there refer to him as as

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Speaker 5: the boss, you know, whether you know he's there day

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Speaker 5: to day or not, and he's not their day to day.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people there look at him as the

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Speaker 5: You know, how does Alex Guerrero fit into that. There's

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Speaker 5: How does you know John Spytech, the general manager. I

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Speaker 5: you know, I expect he'll be back. You know, what's

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Speaker 5: his role in picking the coach? And and then how

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Speaker 5: does the coach fit into the mosaic of all of that?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think like a huge part of the

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Speaker 5: issue this year was they kind of pieced everything together right,

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Speaker 5: Like so it was like, all right, like, let's put

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Speaker 5: the DC. He's going to work with Pete Carroll, who,

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Speaker 5: by the way, has run a completely different defensive system.

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Speaker 5: And now like let's go get Chip Kelly out of

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Speaker 3: Now it's a new day for the Raiders. Well, how

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Speaker 3: did all those pieces fit together? You know, I think

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Speaker 5: Piece of this is Like, so now with Tom Brady,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, ostensibly like the guy who is

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Speaker 5: in charge, how what does that look like going forward?

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Speaker 3: And how do all those pieces fit together?

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Speaker 5: To me, that's the biggest piece of what I think

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Speaker 5: will be a coaching search coming up here in the

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Speaker 5: next few days and weeks, is like, how does the

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Speaker 5: coach fit into what you've built? Otherwise, are you reconfiguring

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Speaker 5: anything any of what you've.

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Speaker 3: Already got there?

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Speaker 5: There are big picture questions that the Raiders need to

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Speaker 5: answer and obviously a very very big decision coming in

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Speaker 5: April when it comes to what to do with the

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady a better broad counster or owner broadcaster?

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Speaker 5: Now, I'd say, I mean, we'll see as ownership. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I would say there are there are so many people

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Speaker 5: that have been so intelligent that have been humbled moving

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Speaker 5: into ownership roles. You know, you know I always get

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Speaker 5: that question, like, how can this guy who built this

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Speaker 5: empire in business? Now I know what he's doing in football.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you have too, right, Like I get that question.

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Speaker 5: It's not the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Mets owner, he just thinks I can

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Speaker 2: buy I buy everything right. In the NFL, you can't

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Speaker 2: buy everything right.

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Speaker 3: And and and a lot of them get humbled.

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Speaker 5: I mean, every one of them comes in and We're

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Speaker 5: gonna be the Microsoft in football, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 5: and we're going to reinvent everything. And that's why you

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Speaker 5: see so many of these owners like stock up on

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Speaker 5: analytics when they first, you know, get in the role.

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Speaker 5: It's like, oh, all of these idiots like are hiring

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Speaker 5: gym teachers and we're gonna do it a different way. Well,

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Speaker 5: like there's an art to how this whole thing works

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Speaker 5: and how you put the whole thing together, and it's

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Speaker 5: not as easy. It's just saying I'm gonna throw money

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Speaker 5: I learned in my other business. This is a unique business,

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Speaker 5: you know. So like I do think like Tom's got

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Speaker 3: To all of that.

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Speaker 2: Gary Danielson, longtime CBS college football analyst, final broadcast New

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Speaker 7: Not really, because I usually have, you know, these three

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Speaker 2: The Army Navy game, you know, that brings out the

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Speaker 6: And everybody involved in that game.

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Speaker 7: And now it was you know, whether a game in

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Speaker 7: August mattered to determine who played in January or the

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Speaker 7: end of December. So I think for the most part,

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Speaker 7: everybody involved took it seriously.

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Speaker 6: I do think it could be improved. Everything could be improved.

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Speaker 7: I think the home field advantage, I know, talking to

445
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Speaker 7: a lot of coaches off the record, felt that would

446
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Speaker 7: be better to play a home game in the first

447
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Speaker 7: round then get a buy and I think that's proven out.

448
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Speaker 7: I thought Ohio State was a little flat in their game.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not taking anything away from everybody, but for

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Speaker 7: the most part, you know, people like I think watching

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Speaker 7: games of consequence. You know, that's what I started off

452
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Speaker 7: doing in my whole broadcasting career, ended up the last

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Speaker 7: twenty at CBS. But it felt like every Saturday in

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Speaker 7: the SEC for eighteen years, we were the.

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Speaker 6: Center of attention. If people like to watch games like.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I just wonder where we're going, because you know,

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Speaker 2: we're talking March madness where we want to well, not me,

458
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Speaker 2: but it feels like we want to expand there's more

459
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Speaker 2: money there even with college football. We haven't got to sixteen.

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Speaker 2: We haven't been at twelve very long. Now we're talking sixteen,

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Speaker 2: which will probably happen next year. Then they're going to

462
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Speaker 2: extrapolate and go, well, why don't we go to twenty four? Like,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know what the number is. I remember

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Speaker 2: when March Madness was thirty two teams Gary, right, we

465
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Speaker 2: never stop, We never you know, the NFL was going

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Speaker 2: to move to eighteen games. This is what we do.

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Speaker 2: So I wonder college football, where do you see us

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Speaker 2: in five years?

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Speaker 7: I think it will at least be so six teams,

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Speaker 7: and it could be bigger than that, where eight teams

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Speaker 7: get to buy and they include more. I don't know

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Speaker 7: exactly how it'll be, but here's what I feel overall

473
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Speaker 7: about this. Freedom and capitalism have a great way of

474
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Speaker 7: figuring things out okay, and it ends up going to

475
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Speaker 7: the perfect spot, the perfect price point. And you know,

476
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Speaker 7: it used to be unless you had a major conglomate

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Speaker 7: around you.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you started was through ESPN.

479
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Speaker 7: And now guys like you or Pat McAfee or people

480
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Speaker 7: starting podcasts, they have the freedom to go out there

481
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Speaker 7: and build their own brand and do what they have

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Speaker 7: to do, and I thought college football kind of got stuck,

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Speaker 7: where all the great players were gravitating to eight, ten,

484
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Speaker 7: twelve schools. I remember I did a seminar at CBS

485
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Speaker 7: maybe four or five years ago, and they asked us

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Speaker 7: to pick our top ten going into twenty twenty nineteen

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Speaker 7: or something like that. And I went and sought out

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Speaker 7: the Old Life magazine when they had their preer Sports

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Speaker 7: Illustrated preseason top ten from the year I graduated from

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Speaker 7: high school, and eight of the ten teams were the

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Speaker 7: exact same ten teams that were preseason this year. And

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Speaker 7: I put it up as my top ten, and there

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Speaker 7: was a team that didn't belong. And what do you

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Speaker 7: do when I go, Oh, I'm sorry, I put the

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Speaker 7: wrong one up. I think it's better now.

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Speaker 6: Is it perfect?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: But here's another thing.

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Speaker 7: Because there's more money in it, Basically, more of these

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Speaker 7: athletes are training harder, they're getting individual teachers, they're going

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Speaker 7: out and having seven on seven leagues, and there's just

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Speaker 7: a lot more players that were stuck in Division two

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Speaker 7: or in the MAC that are now getting their chance

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Speaker 7: to go to these major colleges that we watch on TV.

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Speaker 6: They're not all bad football players.

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Speaker 4: So me.

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Speaker 7: Trinidad Chambliss, great example. My buddy covered him in high

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Speaker 7: school football when he was in the state championship, said

509
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Speaker 7: he was good but not ready for Michigan. Well he

510
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Speaker 7: went to Ferris put in a couple more years and

511
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Speaker 7: look where he is now. So I just feel there's

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Speaker 7: more opportunity. And I think it's better than having Georgia

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Speaker 7: Texas Ohio State having three good quarterbacks and six goods

514
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Speaker 7: offensive tackles that those guys spread out.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think there's that much bad about it.

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Speaker 2: Longtime CBS college football analyst Gary Danielson joining us CAN

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Speaker 2: this year's Hoosiers supplant the movie Hoosiers the basketball team

518
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Speaker 2: is a better story.

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Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 7: That's a great question. And I just saw that Bobby

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Speaker 7: Plump was just at the Butler game eighty nine years old.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if he saw that little clip of him,

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Speaker 7: you know, and she looked like he could still shoot.

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Speaker 6: To me, the way he was waving his hand around,

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Speaker 6: that would be tougher.

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Speaker 7: I think doing a story about six people and a

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Speaker 7: coach is harder than doing it.

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Speaker 6: You know, for as many as there.

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Speaker 7: But hey, listen, we've all I mean, I'm a Purdue guy,

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Speaker 7: you know, and I see I you fans.

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Speaker 6: Everywhere, and I'm a bit jealous and I'm a bit

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Speaker 6: in awe at the same time that, you know, I

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Speaker 6: couldn't have that storyline when I was playing, because it is.

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Speaker 7: And I see the fans and they're so proud, and

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Speaker 7: they got their IU jerseys on their hats, and I

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Speaker 7: kid them a little bit by selling them that this

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Speaker 7: would be basketball jerseys and basketball hats right now, But no,

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Speaker 7: they are all in and they're really, really a good

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Speaker 7: football team.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 7: I turned on their tape to do the Oregon game

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Speaker 7: when they played at Oregon, and I'm just like, they

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Speaker 7: were considered a fraud from twenty twenty four of their finish,

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Speaker 7: and I thought it would have been hard for anybody

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Speaker 7: to go into Ohio State or go into Notre Dame

546
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Speaker 7: and beat them. And the more you watch those games,

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Speaker 7: they weren't frauds, but they weren't ready for the big

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Speaker 7: time stage yet. And I just thought they were focused

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Speaker 7: this year and they when I put on the tape

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Speaker 7: and watched the different layers, how the defensive linemen worked

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Speaker 7: for the linebreckers, the three linebackers, they have. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's like watching the old Pittsburgh Steelers with Lambert and

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Speaker 7: you know those guys, and I mean, they're really, really

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Speaker 7: good football players, and they got a special quarterback and

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Speaker 7: a coach that knows how to lead them. I don't

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Speaker 7: listen to all four teams could easily win these games

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Speaker 7: and win the championship. But I know Oregon will be

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Speaker 7: really very focused for this football game. When Indiana beat

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Speaker 7: them last time in Oregon, which is a tough place

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Speaker 7: to play, Oregon was just coming off of their celebration

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Speaker 7: for beating Penn State, and honestly, when we did our interviews,

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Speaker 7: I was struck about that. They really couldn't get off

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Speaker 7: the Penn State story. They were so proud of going

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Speaker 7: there winning with one hundred and ten thousand, and they

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Speaker 7: seemed to not take ie you serious. I think they're

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Speaker 7: gonna take them serious.

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Speaker 2: For this guy, best college player you ever saw, I.

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Speaker 7: Would have to say Cam Newton to tell you, and

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Speaker 7: I've seen a bunch of great ones. I thought he

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Speaker 7: had a team that might have won four or.

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Speaker 9: Five games without him, and he led him in the SEC.

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Speaker 9: I knew of him when he was at Florida and

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Speaker 9: when he left.

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Speaker 6: I've seen a bunch of them that were great, no

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Speaker 6: doubt about it.

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Speaker 7: But if I had to pick one in one season,

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Speaker 7: what he did, I thought cam was amazing in that year.

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Speaker 7: I think the highest NIL player, if they were in

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Speaker 7: today's world, for his four years.

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Speaker 6: Would have been Tim Tebow.

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Speaker 7: He broke out my first year in two thousand and six,

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Speaker 7: won the Heisman and seven and stayed all four years.

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Speaker 6: I think he could have made a lot of money

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Speaker 6: for you the game today.

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Speaker 2: Can college football have a commissioner?

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Speaker 6: It's a great question, and I don't know. It's funny.

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Speaker 7: I have a really good friend that runs a managing

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Speaker 7: partner for a law firm all over the state of Florida,

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Speaker 7: and he's a big college football fan, And I said, Mike,

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Speaker 7: you could take your three smartest lawyers and bring three

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Speaker 7: or four of the best football college football minds into

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Speaker 7: a room, and I think you'd have a tough time

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Speaker 7: figuring out how to put someone in charge with all

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Speaker 7: the different and all the way people have. What's important

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Speaker 7: to the big ten or the big twelve is that important?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 7: Everybody has their own dynamics of what will make this

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Speaker 7: thing go and to make it fair like the NFL,

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Speaker 7: where you know, things go, then the Big ten and

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Speaker 7: the SEC.

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Speaker 6: Would have to seed a lot of power and I

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Speaker 6: don't know if they're willing to do that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for caring, appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: I would like to say that, you know, our.

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Speaker 7: Our end was not exactly the way we've planned it, okay,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of people put a lot of work

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Speaker 7: into it. Just like any person, I was very focused

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Speaker 7: on what I wanted to say at the end, and

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Speaker 7: we got squished a little bit in time, and it

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Speaker 7: was really nobody's fault, probably me.

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Speaker 6: I was the last one that had the mic, you know,

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Speaker 6: and I could have got.

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Speaker 4: It, but.

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Speaker 7: It was really what I just wanted to compose myself

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Speaker 7: and think my families, you know, my football families, the

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Speaker 7: teams that I was on, you know, my Purdue family,

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Speaker 7: my Lion family, my Browns family, my ABC ESPN family.

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Speaker 6: I did not thank them.

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Speaker 7: There's thirty forty fifty people that I could have thanked

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Speaker 7: in those sixteen years, and of course my CBS family.

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Speaker 7: And I also wanted to tell Charles Davis, who's taking

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Speaker 7: my spot, that this crew turned head over heels for

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Speaker 7: make my last year great, and that last day great,

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Speaker 7: and that Todd's likely sat in the seat before me.

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Speaker 7: I've been lucky enough for twenty years, and these people

626
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Speaker 7: will all do this work for you. Good luck, Charles

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Speaker 7: is a great seat to have.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, but it takes too long though. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 2: gonna cut you off. Gary, you were going too long.

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Speaker 7: You know what, you know what they do to a

631
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Speaker 7: quarterback if you rush them, they throw interceptions.

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Speaker 6: And I threw an interception.

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Speaker 2: Uh, good luck in whatever's next. But thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it, Gary, Thanks thanks for having me. Gary Danielson,

635
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Speaker 2: longtime CBS college football analysts.

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Speaker 2: He might be a Hall of Famer, he might be

641
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Speaker 2: one of the best NFL analysts in America, but he

642
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Speaker 2: was not able to beat Jaye Chandler and Derry Ann

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Speaker 2: in the high school championship game. Steve Young joining us

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Speaker 2: on the program.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Steve, beautiful, Dan, thank you, Yeah, yeah, back toyall

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Speaker 4: Grwich High School. All us patching record to my brothers.

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Speaker 4: So you have to add a little bit more ignotomy?

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Whatever what happened? I mean, Jade Chandler went out to Princeton,

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Speaker 2: notable career in finance.

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Speaker 4: You know, Dan, it's a question that I wasn't ready for.

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Speaker 4: I think that uh uh, the the blue waves of Darienn.

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Speaker 4: Uh just outclastics that day. I don't know what else

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Speaker 4: to say.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what which Which town is Richer, Greenwich

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Speaker 2: or Darienn.

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Speaker 4: He look, I told you a thousand times. I grew

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Speaker 4: up in the mean streets of Greweck. I battled my

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Speaker 4: way out of there. Do not try to change my narrative.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you had tattered vineyard vine shirts, didn't you?

661
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Like?

662
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

663
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: People, you know, I played with my you know, I

664
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: played a lot of guys, you know, from all over

665
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: the time. They're like, where are you from? Frewich, Connecticut?

666
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: And what's that like? Man, it's tough. It's I try

667
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: to play it up because if they ever found out, all.

668
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, let's handicap this. If you had to pick

669
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: between well, I'm gonna leave the Niners out of this,

670
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: Seahawks and Rams. They have the two best odds to

671
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Who would you pick right now?

672
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: Well, watching the Seahawks at the day, I think just momentous.

673
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: I don't know just how they're playing right the second. Uh,

674
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: I feel like the Seahawks were built, uh, defensively to

675
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: just I mean they're just vicious. And then the way

676
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: they're running the football and bad weather and as long

677
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: as look to me, as long as Sam doesn't turn

678
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: it over, which has been a huge problem this year,

679
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: they're going to be just fine. I mean, I'd be

680
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: a heck of a game right now. I'm gonna be

681
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: honest with you. But and look, Matthew Stafford is abusing

682
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: the system today. I mean he we'll talked about before

683
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: he grew up in a more sophisticated era. He is

684
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: just everybody's open in his mind, you know, like everything's

685
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: just and then uh, you know who is doing his

686
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 4: I mean it's just there's that'd be a great game,

687
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: and uh, it's unfortunate I won't be a super Bowl

688
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: because of course they're both the NFC. But right now

689
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: both are playing really well.

690
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: I did think about this with Miles Garrett setting the

691
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: single season sack record of LT and Reggie White are

692
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: probably considered the two greatest defensive players of all time.

693
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: Would you would you say that.

694
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 4: I would say yes to that, and I would say

695
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: Reggie was unique. Both of them were unique. But Reggie is.

696
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: You had to meet Reggie to know that he was

697
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: six six three. His football card said two ninety, which

698
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: tells me that he was four hundred. Like you know,

699
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: you didn't you know, you're a liar, uh, But he

700
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: was all of it like he was. He was He

701
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: shouldn't play quarterback. I mean, he's just that great athlete. Uh.

702
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: Not taking any away from LT, but you had to

703
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: you had to meet Reggie, you had to play against him.

704
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: You had to hear him, you know, screaming as he

705
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 4: like he snapped the balls at hood and you know,

706
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: you hear him, and here he comes, he's he's throwing

707
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: people out of the way, and and then there you know,

708
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: there he was.

709
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: So is he the greatest defensive player of all time?

710
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: Like people want to put Miles Garrett in that conversation,

711
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: and I want to be fair to Miles as well,

712
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: but Reggie to me was and and me and Joe

713
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: Green was probably in there as well. I know that

714
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: was before you were playing, but l LT changed the game.

715
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: I mean, LT was all of that so doing. Look,

716
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: we can talk about LT for five minutes if you

717
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 4: want to as well, But I I saw Reggie so much,

718
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 4: you know, just he was just so he's just one

719
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: of a kind. And I'm LT was as well. But yeah,

720
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: Miles is. Look, the problem with Miles is he plays

721
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: with the Cleveland Browns and no one gets to really

722
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: appreciate how singular he is, and especially in this time

723
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: of year. I mean, you know, Reggie and l team

724
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: made a lot of their money and a lot of

725
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: their reputation in January February, you know, and that's just

726
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: that's that's the game, right, That's where you really do

727
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 4: make reputation. So that's what's Uh. You know, I even

728
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: talking about Miles of I want to see him play

729
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: next week, you know what I mean, I want to

730
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: see him. Uh when when you know, just it's all

731
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 4: on the line and there he is, you know, so

732
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: that's only different. It feels like.

733
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: How much do you hear these guys? You said you

734
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: could hear Reggie White, but like I'm thinking you got

735
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: tunnel vision and tunnel hearing, but there were certain guys

736
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: you could hear.

737
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: Nah, Yeah, it's pretty you're right. It's like a lot

738
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: of white noise and behind you. You know, like even

739
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: even the crowd feels like it's just a mind, you know,

740
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: it's a faceless or kind of thing. Like I just

741
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: to me, you're right, But Reggie was you need because

742
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 4: look all week long Wednesday morning, he was like, Okay,

743
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: we play the Packers, who play the Eagles and uh

744
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: Reggie wife of Tennessee six six three forty and uh yeah,

745
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: you can't lock them, and what.

746
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 6: Are we gonna do?

747
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: Well, the six guys, it will just surround him, you know,

748
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: and then go up the other don't worry about the

749
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: just take Reggie. So then you talk about it all week, right,

750
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 4: and the linemen are all getting fired up. And then

751
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: uh and so because of that, he was just he

752
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 4: was always focused on and then he he was he's screened.

753
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: But he had a boy like I can't make a

754
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: voice like his, Like you can't go that deep, you know,

755
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 4: see I you know, and so you could hear him screaming,

756
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: and then you could hear him coming. Then he was there,

757
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I always make fun of it,

758
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: but it is kind of funny, like you drought back

759
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, here we are you know it

760
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: was great. He was he was a friend. He we

761
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 4: didn't see each other very often. He had a chance

762
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: of off. You're great friends. When we're coming out of

763
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: college together, my dad helped him find an agent, and

764
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: we were kind of got very close, and so all

765
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 4: the time we played. He didn't give me an inch.

766
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 4: He was coming for it. But then as soon as

767
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: he got me, hold me Paul back and he's like, Steve,

768
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: how you doing that. I'm like, I'm not right now,

769
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: parents here tonight. I'm like, right, Chie, I don't want.

770
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: To talk to you right now, we're talking to the

771
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Steve Young. The Raiders have just fired

772
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll.

773
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: What do they expect, Well, Pete, you know, listen, pizza

774
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: organized guy. Pete is inspired. You know, he's his inspiration.

775
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: He I think you in today's game, you have you

776
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: look at the playoffs. It is Sean Peyton, Sean McVay,

777
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid and any from the fruit

778
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: of those coaching trees is dominating the NFL today. Offensively,

779
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: and you know, offensively is the game they keep changing

780
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 4: the rules against. Defense. Defense is important, There's no question.

781
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: I mean, there's some great defense out there despite it all,

782
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 4: but the game is dominated by innovative, young offensive minds.

783
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: And so you know, I love Pete. He's one of

784
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: my favorite guy's favorite coaches. And I don't think I

785
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: still think he could do it, but he's got to

786
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: get that help around him that responds to what's happening

787
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: right now today, and and then you gotta have the

788
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: talent and you have no Look, we keep I always

789
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: saved Dan. There's equity owners in the NFL. They're untouchable

790
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 4: because they're the equity owners, like you can't they're they're

791
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: the most hot fireable people in America. Are the quarterback

792
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 4: number one, the coach number two, and the general manager

793
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 4: number three. And the guy that cannot be fired is

794
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: the guy that's the most impactful is the owner. And

795
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: I think, uh, you know, you got to get that

796
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: straight now too, because as you keep going around to care,

797
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: look at the Jets, look at the teams that just

798
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: keep going around in a carousel failure, they have to

799
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: they have to look at themselves. At some point.

800
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: The Browns fired Kevin Stefanski. I'm wondering, if you're a coach,

801
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: how you're going into a situation where do you know

802
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: if you have a quarterback, did you get enough of

803
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: a sample size with Shadoor Sanders where you're not you're

804
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: not going to take the job because of shood Or

805
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: but are you walking into a situation where you might

806
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: be playing shoodh or Sanders.

807
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's you know, it's tough right now because

808
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: it's a developmental project and he is a project, and

809
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: he's got a lot of talent. So and you don't

810
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: know how projects are always going to turn out. Let's

811
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: look at Drake May. They took that's a project, but

812
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: that's not a project anymore. And uh, and so that's

813
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: the tough spot. Like I just said, if you're a

814
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: young innovative mind coming from one of those coaching trees

815
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: that's figured it out, it's felt that it's seen it. Uh,

816
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: and then you have somebody who could play h Look

817
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: what happened in Chicago, Look what happened in Jacksonville, Look

818
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: what happened even in Carolina a little bit. I mean

819
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: it's better than it was. You're in a pretty good spot.

820
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: But you know, if you've got someone new that is unproven,

821
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: you really don't have a chance unless you have look

822
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: at the playoffs. Again, look with this weekend and look

823
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: at the guys that are leading it and the dynamic

824
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: and should or has that dynamic play in him. But

825
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 4: he's gonna need he needs innovative minds to come teach

826
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: him and take out the full measure of who he is.

827
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: Right now, we just don't know what that is.

828
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 2: Seventy three games were decided by three points or less

829
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: this season. That's tied for the second most in NFL history.

830
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: Is that a good thing?

831
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, league loves it, that's what they want.

832
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: Well, I know the league loves it because they they

833
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: want parody. They want a team like Carolina to make

834
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: the play They want everybody to have hope. Yeah, and

835
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: their games are always close.

836
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: They want that. And again, in the name of safety,

837
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: we've changed the game. Uh, and I think it probably

838
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: has been. They responded to that. They were afraid that

839
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: someone was going to die in the field. A few

840
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: people keep launching them bodies as missiles into each other,

841
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 4: and so they they changed the game, slowed it down.

842
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: And despite the speed and the athleticism, it's it's just

843
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: a more wide open game. And it's and I've I've

844
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: said this for since they've made the changes. It's like

845
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: the NBA more and more even it gets more and

846
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 4: more like that. Look at the Pittsburgh Baltimore game last night,

847
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: Like look, it's it's the big names in the game,

848
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: the closers with a minute and a half or two

849
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 4: minutes left, and that's like, oh, it's on and then

850
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: down the field, down the field, down the field, score

851
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: score score. That wasn't the way the game was before

852
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: you had ten point lead the fourth quarter he kind

853
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: of locked it up. Now it's like it's just and

854
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 4: and it's like the NBA, if you have a closer,

855
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: you've got a chance, and you're better than better than none.

856
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: So the fact that more games that finish him at

857
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 4: three points, that's kind of where the game is today.

858
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: It's wide open, it's wild, it's awesome. Anyone before any

859
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: of us older guys are like, dang, I said this,

860
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: do you make time like I I don't want to?

861
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Okay, did you say that you could play in the

862
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: NFL now recently.

863
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: If it was Hunger Games and it was like you

864
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 4: have to go out there before you you're dead, you die,

865
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: you know, I could throw a screen, I could throw something,

866
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: I mean, but but yeah, I could still throw it

867
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: around a little bit. You feel like, oh, I've been

868
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: getting killed on that, Like, no, suit me up. I'm

869
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: not ready to go get But if it was so,

870
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: it was that or die.

871
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: Okay. If I had a draft of quarterbacks over the

872
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: age of fifty five, are you going number one?

873
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm.

874
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: Like a nutcase. This is where are you going with it?

875
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: I tell like crazy, man? I know, yeah, yeah, I

876
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: am number Like in the supplemental draft, number.

877
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: One, Brett fav Is fifty six. Do you think you're

878
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: a better quarterback now than far of it? Yeah?

879
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. Houses are you know?

880
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: Oh you've seen those in the backyard. He's killing people

881
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: throwing Jerry Rice. You're a guy.

882
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 4: I can still.

883
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: He took Jerry Rice from you.

884
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 4: I can still escape.

885
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: You need copper fit is what you need?

886
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: The motion escape.

887
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: Any problem with any any problem with Troy Aikman helping

888
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: the Dolphins find a head coach.

889
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: You've heard me complain about this, how football's dumb. We

890
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: don't we don't take I mean, we asked players. We

891
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: used to watch the draft and watch our team draft

892
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: and go and then we go to the first mini

893
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: camp and we looked around in fifteen minutes, Everyone's like, honey, sucks,

894
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: you know, and it's like, well, how is it that

895
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: we know that? How is it that we like they

896
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: have scouting deep deep bench of scouts throughout the year,

897
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: all over the country, shifting through everything, and you don't

898
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: draw on the guys.

899
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Wait, you can tell in fifteen minutes when you first

900
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 2: saw a draft pick.

901
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 4: Okay, I might be conflating it slightly, Okay, but the

902
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: idea is true.

903
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: You knew Jerry Rice was going to be great the

904
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: first fifteen minutes you saw, You.

905
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: Saw that, everyone can see everyone. E's got to go

906
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: through what we get that is the NFL. But you

907
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: can just tell the guy who loves the game as

908
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 4: the aptitude for it, it's got that talent, that that

909
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: that you know, all the intangibles that we play it with,

910
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: things that you can't even explain. And the idea that

911
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: we don't draw on that, Uh, it feels crazy to

912
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: me and like, why aren't we have And that's not

913
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: every guy on the team had that sensibility, but there's

914
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: always a handful of guys that you'd want to have

915
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 4: in the room.

916
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: Why aren't you a team president?

917
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: I don't know I ran from the game. I don't know.

918
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 4: I just we That's what Roger Starbeck told me to do.

919
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: He said, Uh I do I? Roger? What do I?

920
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: What do you?

921
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 4: What's the advice for transition? He goes, run, you know,

922
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: will run wire. Let's just run away. The game will

923
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: never leave you, but you got to leave it.

924
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: And uh, would you like to be involved in an organization?

925
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: I think everybody who played probably has a sense that

926
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 4: they could be helpful.

927
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: You know, have the Niners reach out to you?

928
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: Run it? And if you could run like John Lynch,

929
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: my good buddy's running the forty nine ers. Why are

930
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: you know there's a there's a there's a spirit to it.

931
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: Why the forty nine ers are back in the playoffs

932
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: again the last eight years since they were there? The

933
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: record Shannan and John Lynch? I mean, and it's not

934
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: everybody who played is successful at that job. But you

935
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: asked me about Troyman helping the Miami Dolphins. I'm like, yeah,

936
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 4: that can't that can't be a bad idea.

937
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: Troy is fifty nine? Are you a better quarter run up?

938
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: I can spin out and make a play, you.

939
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: Know the come on, come on, are you a better

940
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: quarterback than Marino.

941
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, I went to my senior year.

942
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: I went to the recruiter ship to Army UH West

943
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 4: Point and they played pitt freshman quarterback Dan Marino throw

944
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: a laser about forty yards right in front of me

945
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: as a senior in ice club, like, hobly, this is

946
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: this is what college.

947
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 6: Is like finished.

948
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: And Marino's what he didn't move when he played, so

949
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: he's gonna be standing back. He's sixty four. Marino could

950
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: probably still direct the like a two minute drill.

951
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be playing. It's like it's something to

952
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: be all old guy. That's amazing.

953
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: I didn't even throw Montana in there.

954
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know, look to me the game. That's

955
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: what happens with the changes in the game. When Tom

956
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: Brady told me four or five years ago, and it

957
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: was in Tampa, we were on the field before the

958
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: game to go see the game is amazing, Right, It's

959
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: changed so much, like the flats are always open, the

960
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: middle of the field that's unpatrolled and no one can

961
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 4: hit me. So the fact that anyone that's ever played

962
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: before would say, oh, put me in you know, So

963
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 4: that's that's just a natural thing. It's not like where

964
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: I get off my lawn kind of old guy like.

965
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: It's just like you see the game today, and you

966
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 4: see the game that I played in the game that's

967
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: being played today, and all the guys in the playoffs

968
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: this year they have to run around. It's it's normal.

969
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 4: It's not an audity. It's a beautiful thing. Like you're

970
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: you're better than ever if you're you know it used

971
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: to be your scramble. You're I can't stand you. You

972
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: run around now like you know, it's all came. It's

973
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: like I'm missed it by twenty years now.

974
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: Rogers Stallback is eighty three.

975
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: He could.

976
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to talk to you once again.

977
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 6: Uh.

978
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: Not a better high school player apparently than Jay Chandler, but.

979
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 4: Drey Chandler right now somewhere calling all his buddies, like

980
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: I knew I always get my time. My moment.

981
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: The blue wave of Derry Anne dominated you.

982
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 6: Wow.

983
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hey, you know Granwich High School State champs

984
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: again this year, State champs again. So let's I'm just

985
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 4: gonna spin it back on top of it. Damn.

986
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, see buddy, Steve Young