1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here we come. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host with 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald's. I just wanna let you know a couple 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: of things. Ladies in journals, It's important to understand that 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: everybody travels a different path to success. That's because your 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: brand is different, the challenges your face in life is different. 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: So I bring people on the show to talk about 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: their journeys. There there are missteps their success stories, because 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: in the process of creating success stories, there are missteps, 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: and you need to understand that there are some valleys 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: as well as there's some peaks and your journeys to success. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: My next guest as a Eustonian. I'm from Houston, so 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm always happened to bring on the fellow us tonight 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: onto the show. It's Chris Gaston. Chris Gaston fold founded 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Family First Sports Firm with his wife in twenty and eighteen. 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: The agency Family First focused on empowerment, economic growth, and 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: black excellence. The agency represents DeAndre Darren Darren Fox of 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: the That's just correct, I say the right deer in 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Fox of the Sacramento Kings. Gaston is signed the largest 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: contract in the Sacramento Kings franchise history five years, a 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three million, and then secured a four 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: million dollar deal for Damien Dodson, former U of H 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: grad That's why I went to school and the toughest 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: free agent market and in NBA history. He's now with 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavalier Leers. He originally started out the New 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: York Knicks. Gaston made his way in the industry through 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: player development, working with many of the top players in 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: the NBA college in high school. Please welcome to money 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: making conversation A man who understands relationships, Mr Chris Gaston. Yes, 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: sir man man, pleasure to have me man, know you 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: was in Houston native, so I was good talking to 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: a fellow Houston guy. You know, we're very proud. You 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: know we were to that age symbol on our on 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: our hearts and man, wherever we go, well you have 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: to you know, I will also be broadcasting on KTSU, 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: so this show would be area KSU and the Houston 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: market on that every Tuesday from twel to one. So 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: make sure this episode airs in the Houston market. So 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, again you have a brand that you developed. 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: And I started that out by saying relationships because when 48 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: we talk about working with NBA players or top college 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: players in NBA college in high school, talking about your 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: journey right quick, Chris, because everybody wants to be an agent. 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: But you can be an agent, but if you don't 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: have the relationships, then you don't have talent to sign 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: to these big deals that we just talked about in 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: your opening credits. Man, being an agent is all about relationships, man, 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: and you know these relationships don't happen. It's just like 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: building trusts. You can't build trusts overnight. So these relationships 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: are ten, fifteen, twenty years in the making. You know, 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm not an overnight success. You know I started, Man, 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: I grinded from the bottom. I started working on high 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: school girls. You know that I was blessing up that. 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: You know a guy that I called, you know, like 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: my little brother, a guy by the name of Tommy 63 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Mason Griffin and know him since he was in the 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: second and third grade. You know, I started working with 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: him and he turned out to be a McDonald's all American, 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, out of Madison High School, high school I 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: went to. And it kind of snowball from there, man 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: to just working guys out. UM started an AU program. 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Thought I wanted to be a college coach. That didn't 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: work out, and it just kept growing and growing. I 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: just kept grinding and grinding. This is you know, this 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: is years and years of relationship to get to this point. 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: So you know, everybody wants to be a Rich Paul 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: or Jeremy Grin and they could just wake up over 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: and I even take a test become an agent. It's 76 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: not that simple. Man, Well, he had the ultimate relationship. 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: That's uh called Lebron James and that's him Maverick and 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: uhre's a great story about black men who started out 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: in high school who built a sports empire, a media empire, 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: and a philanthropic UH empire. As we all know, Labron 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: is very influential. And the h A movement and civil 82 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: rights arrested, UH siver arrested happened this summer as well 83 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: as the getting not to vote. And so how does 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: that play to your agency? Because we talk about your 85 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: agency and focuses on empowerment, economic growth and black excellent, 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with the empowerment part. What empowerment is first, 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I have to empower myself, Yes, because people that look 88 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: like me, that walk and talk like me, that where 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: they're haired, and you know, any type of style they want, 90 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: they don't get opportunities in this business. Their stereotype, their judge. 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: It's just hard. Like you know, majority of the men 92 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: own the court, players on the court, or African American 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: or minorities, but the majority of the business that happens 94 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: off the court. People hearing these guys careers are whitening 95 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: and it's just lopside. And you know, I've been here 96 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: being through changing that and given you know, all minorities 97 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: and women a chance and empowerment this business. So um, 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm not slaying to hiring one person or another but 99 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I but I knew I'm big on hiring minorities and 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: people who normally wouldn't get a chance to work in 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: this industry. That's very important thing I can I can 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: relate to you. You know, I managed Steve hard in 103 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: my background, Steve Harvey. Talents like Steve Harvey doesn't get 104 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: associated with talents like me, which can mean that people 105 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: of color. I currently managed Steven A. Smith, a high 106 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: profile person in the media, especially on the NBA side 107 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: with ESPN and negotiating contracts. So it's all that part 108 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: about negotiating, being in that doorway, being able to look 109 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: at individuals that represented by UH majority firms majority first 110 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: like ci A, H William mars U t A and 111 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: other other sports agencies that that get out there and 112 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: get the athlete first and then used to what happens 113 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: they have the ability to court them longer and especially 114 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: happens in the football industry, but also in the basketball 115 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: industry a little bit different because of the fact that 116 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: that's a nurturing process. A you probably programs or i 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: MG kind of setting it up where they got people, 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: they got you go down there and participate in their camps. 119 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: So but you got in with Mr Fox who's out 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: of Houston, and Damien Dodson, who went to University Houston. 121 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: So these are two people in Houston based. Talk about 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: how you established your relationship with Fox, because they also 123 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: were two talented twins out of the Houston market that 124 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: also wins. They went to Kentucky and uh and a 125 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: lot was expected of those two young men, you know, 126 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: because they were they were much of ballyhoo in fact 127 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: that they were even more balued than their Darren was 128 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: when he came out of the AD. When they these guys, 129 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: they had all the hype around him. But I can't speak. 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't know specifically what happened with those guys. I mean, 131 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: they were great players and just I mean the NBA 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: is hard. Just didn't paying out for those guys. But 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: as far as my relationship with with Damien Dodson, he's 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: actually a family Um. He's my wife's cousin, so i'm him. 135 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: When I first started day with my wife and Daniel 136 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: was back in six six or seventh grade, he was Yeah, 137 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: he was just with me everywhere. He wasn't a big 138 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: time prospect or, like you said, a badly hoover fruit. 139 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: He was a guy. We just put our head down 140 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: and went to work every day. We grinded. I mean 141 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: when he went to some trials and tribulations at Oregon 142 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: get the Transport University of Right and then you know, 143 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: my relationship with darn Fox start when he was in 144 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: the fighth grade. I had my own youth program and 145 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: one of my friends that was going to be his 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: coach at the high school said, uh, you should have 147 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: come let this kid and play for a tournament on 148 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: your seven team and the under program. I'm like, I'm 149 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: not letting a fight grade kid come playing up with 150 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: these juniors and seniors. They're like, now, you should let 151 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: him co play. He's gonna be pretty good. So I 152 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: let him come play one tournament, and that was all 153 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: she wrote. You know, we've been attacked attached at the 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: hip ever since. And I'll say that's the difference between 155 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: me and Rich Paul. A lot of people try to 156 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: compare Rich Paul. Per Se was these guys peers and 157 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: kind of grew up with them and hung out with 158 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: those guys. You know, me and Darren we want peers. 159 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: I was I was a man, he was a child. 160 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: You know. I was more of a mentor, a big brother. 161 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: And now actually that he's older, we grew into a 162 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: different type of relationship. But I wasn't some guy hanging 163 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: out at the club with him and calling and texting 164 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: him like. No, I was a professional businessman like this 165 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: wasn't like you know, some homeboy hookup type stuff like. 166 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: But it's all about trust. It's all about trust because 167 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: you started earlier, you know, when I when I started 168 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: reason to resumeate Chris, you know, because you know, coaching 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: a lot of discipline in your life, a lot of development, 170 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: a lot of motivation comes out your resume, you know 171 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: when I look at it, and let's talk about us 172 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: walk through these steps. Because I'm not trying to bash 173 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: anybody on this show. When I talked about the Harrison Twins, 174 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: because but that's how this business is. You can come 175 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: out much Bally who they went to Kentucky, had an 176 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: incredible career, but then flaws in their game started to 177 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: pop up. You know, could have could have handled Rock. 178 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: Who's what position is it gonna play? Does he play good? D? 179 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: But when I looked at Foxes game, I remember when 180 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: he played against Ball, who was much barely hood. How 181 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: do you c l a, and there was much talk 182 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: after he clowned him. I mean he claimed ball, you know, 183 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: in the in the tournament that okay, it's ball A. 184 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: Fox should go as we see now, Fox should have 185 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: went number two and not Ball, who's been a very 186 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: competent player. But again, hype, Ken, how do you slice 187 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: through the hype because I remember emotionally, I was really 188 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: charmed by by Daren when he was crying on TV 189 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: after that loss. I was really man with hype. We 190 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: try to block out the noise, man, because there's gonna 191 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: be so many people in your ears, so many people 192 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: telling you how good you are, like we always want more. Man. 193 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: Darren's dad and his mom, they did a great job 194 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: of keeping him absolutely. Remember after his preshoneer in high school, 195 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: Darren had a fifty two point game, two points, and 196 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: all his dad was fussing about after the game, you 197 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: missed these rebounds, you missed these balls, you missed these 198 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: three throws. Let's go to the gym, the ninety two 199 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: pre throws. So it's about keeping keeping, you know, And 200 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to stay humber when you're getting all these 201 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: press Philippians, all these rankings and stuff. So that's why 202 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: you're you're supporting circle, your people around your family. They 203 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: are very crucial to the player of development. You gotta 204 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: keep these guys humble. You know, to your point that 205 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: Hash and Twins had a lot of hype, and um, 206 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean it just didn't work out. I mean the 207 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: NBA is hard business. Like you said, they got Nippick 208 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: when they got to Kentucky. They had a lot of 209 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: question marks about the game and it just didn't work out. 210 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: But you know, you have to stay humble. You have 211 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: to block out the noise. You cannot get caught up 212 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: in the hype. I've seen the number one pick Anthony 213 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Bennett of the NBA. Now, so I tell people, don't 214 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: get caught up in the rankings or pick. You go 215 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: the jobs to get in the league and stay in 216 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: the league. You know well that some people that get 217 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: too caught up in the rankings and who's what. But 218 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 1: we don't get caught up in that. We don't what 219 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: the thing about it. So so with that being said, 220 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: because that's that's that's daring. Okay, here's it got buch 221 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: belly who And then you go to Damien Dodson. You 222 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: know when he left your h you know, uh. And 223 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: he made the New York Niche team after the tough 224 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: defense and he has a good outside shop, good three points. 225 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: So he had talked about that process because I was 226 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: a different motivation process because the Fox was a lot 227 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: of repick, a certain amount of guarantees. You know, he 228 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get cut his first year. We knew that. 229 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: But Damien went in talking about that process and getting 230 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: them on the New York Knicks and now he's over 231 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland now. But I was so proud because he was 232 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: He's a really talented NBA player right Well with Damien, 233 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, we have a monel man. I always know 234 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: his work, you know, dream big, working hard, let God 235 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: do the rest. And so that was kind of about model. 236 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna put We're gonna work as hard 237 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: as we can, and wherever the chips may fall, we're 238 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna be happy with that. So his process 239 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: was very different coming out of the University of Houston 240 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: there with no guarantees. We packed our badge and went 241 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: to l A. We started training. He had to go 242 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: to the camp called the COURSEM Invitational the p I T, 243 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: which is for the top seniors in the country. Absolutely, 244 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: and he went there, he bawled out, he won m 245 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: VP of the tournament. And from there he got invited 246 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: to the Chicago Combine, which is for the top sixty 247 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: prospects in the NBA Draft. He played well there, um 248 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: and he we had several NBA workouts, not no for him. 249 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: He played what he did with I mean he stepped, 250 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: he knocked it out the park, and I mean it 251 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: was a ground. He's grueling, is mentally taxing, but he's 252 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: built for this man. And you know that's the reason 253 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: why he's sticking in the NBA to day, because he 254 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: just has that for the two to to fight through adversity. 255 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that there. Sticking in the NBA. 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: These guys are given a lot of money to how 257 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: do you you know, I'm a guy. You know I'm 258 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: a financier. You know my name, my show, money making conversations. 259 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: And so I always believe that some of these young 260 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: men should just be they could be the money they 261 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: make their first year should be putting the fund where 262 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: they can just be delivered liver lifestyle of comfort for 263 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the for the rest of their life. Really, 264 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: it can't be done that way, how do you deal 265 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: with these situations? From my financial standford, you're the agent. Now, 266 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: they are different lanes out there. I would just let 267 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: everybody know and the agent lane, there's a financial lane, 268 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: as a brandy person, as a talent agent, there's a 269 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: lot of different lanes. What all does your firm encompass? Well, 270 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: my friend, we come we hand. The marketing endorsements arefully 271 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: contract negotiations. Uh. We do have several different business managers 272 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: and financial advisers we work with. We don't pick the 273 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: person for We let those guys interview those guys and 274 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: pick them. But we do have a few guys that 275 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: we trust. And you know, those guys are on the budget. 276 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, when people say 277 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: they point things, you're the reasons why. God. At the 278 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's all on the player. You 279 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: can advise them to do don't do X. The financial 280 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: visers can tell me this is your budget, but at 281 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's their money and they're 282 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna do what they want to do with their money. 283 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: So it's up to inter take their advice from the 284 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: financial advisor, from the business manager and stay with their 285 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: their budgets, stay within reason, because it's like, these guys 286 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: are make a lot of money. They can live a 287 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: comfortable lifestyle and not go crazy. A lot of guys 288 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: go broke, honestly. It's not about buying. You really can't. 289 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: If you're making thirty million dollars a year, you're not 290 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna go broke down a couple of bill leaves and ferrars. 291 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: The way people go broke, honestly is loaning our money 292 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: that ads up going to the club in investments. You know, 293 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: everybody's coming to with these million dollar ideas and it 294 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: sounds good, but that's the way a lot of players 295 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: that win broke is investing their money in the wrong things. Yeah, 296 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: investing money, and then car washers invest their money, and 297 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: nightclubs invest their money and movie ideas. I know that 298 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: I've been in the business a long time. I've seen 299 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: this money flow out. Everybody wants to be a rapper, 300 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: everybody wants a sound studio. Everybody here is that that 301 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: final product. You know, say, hey man, this person here 302 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be the next, you know, next next. But 303 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: that does mean that's a reality. And so when I 304 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: look at talent like yours that you are, that's where 305 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the father figure comes in. That's where the maturity comes in. 306 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: Like you said, you are man and your man who's 307 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: a who's benefited from watching people make these mistakes and 308 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: also a player development let's talk to these let's walk 309 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: through these players development steps that you talk about in 310 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: these camps you put in place, right. So my bread 311 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: and butter when I got in the business player development. 312 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: You know, a k A working guys out training And 313 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: I never just call it training. I call it player 314 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: development because we were doing more than just working out. 315 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: We've been in a relationship, we're talking about life, we're 316 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: talking about girls, god school. So that's why I say 317 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: player development instead of training. Training is a word I 318 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: feel they used to put you in the box where 319 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: like this is all you can do, right. But player 320 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: development that was my bread and butter. Man I studied. 321 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: I learned it from you know, one of my mentors 322 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: as a guy by name and am sorry Elamin. He's 323 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: a look not many people know him. 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I didn't. 374 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: I was all park, as they said, because I never 375 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: played high school ball. But I was all park. You know, 376 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: funding come on Funday, you know, I go down to 377 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: McGregor Park. I had all the best black parks back 378 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: in the day. I was there. I walked on the court, 379 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, I was first pick, first pick on the sideline. RISHT, 380 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: come on, I want you. I want you. But then 381 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: I was stupid too because I didn't understand the fundamentals 382 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: of the game. I didn't understand that. And that's that's 383 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: what we're talking about right now, because one thing I've 384 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: learned when you play street balls, Yes, there were players 385 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: out think that will probably other than the team ALIA 386 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: wants their plays out there that I'll jump dominiquhippers. Right, 387 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: they're probably physically better than Lebron James. You might be 388 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: going too far with him, man, but I get your 389 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: point when you say nothing come on that talented guys 390 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: on the on the on the gonna be come. I'm 391 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: talking about street ball. I'm talking about that hitting these parks. 392 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: It's some guys out there, man, they can leap. It's 393 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: some guys out there can do like like they had 394 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: that contest there was on T and T all these 395 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: guys who could dunk. Oh, they can dunk a ball. 396 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: They can do three sixties, they can flip the ball 397 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: over the back. But they can't play the game. And 398 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: that's why I'm getting there with me. I was talented, 399 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: but I couldn't play the game. I didn't understand that 400 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: player development part of that. You were talking about working 401 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: with the team. That's why I say, That's what I'm 402 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: saying is that you understood it, and that's what you're 403 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: doing that that, like you said that basketball whisperer, being 404 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: able to articulate what what the next step for the 405 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: from players? How do you get in their head and 406 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: how do we eventually listen to you? They do they 407 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: learn from the little no ship you give this or 408 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: that makes sense because that's a whole. That's a huge trust. 409 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: It's just a little nuances. Man, some some guys. I 410 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: never raised my voice. I never yell. I rarely curse. 411 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, some guys like to scream and yell and 412 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: get over here. You know me, I just talked to him. 413 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: I literally talked to him and you know, break stuff down. Hey, 414 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: did you see the way Yannest did a one too 415 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: into its pull up? We want to do the same thing. 416 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: You know, he'll where I say a little phrase like 417 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, he'll toe explode into a jump shot or 418 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: and you know, elementary things, hand in the cookie jar 419 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: when you shoot, make sure when you're crossing over, get 420 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: your shoulders to the defenders. Hills, just a little key 421 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: points that when they started playing, they can hear that 422 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: my voice in their head. I'm about to go by 423 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: this guy and make sure I get low protective ball. 424 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: It's just a little small nuances. It's nothing crazy and 425 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: over the top. It's just being a hat. And the 426 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: main thing for these guys to trust you is you 427 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: gotta have a relationship with I don't have a relationship 428 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: with you. They're not gonna trust you with the most 429 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: precious thing, which is the basketball with their game. Okay, cool, 430 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: And that's a lot of people miss out on the 431 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: relationship part. Those are the best coaches that relationship with 432 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: their players, players that run through a brick wall for them. Right. 433 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: You know. Now we talked about empowerment. Let's go to 434 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: economic growth. Let's talk about that from your firm. We're 435 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: talking about Chris Gaston. He is an amazing company out 436 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: of Houston, Texas and found in Tween with his wife 437 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: called Family First Sports Firm. Talk. We talked about empowerment 438 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: that your firm. Let's talk about the economic growth. Yeah. 439 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: I didn't hear the last part. You could. I apologize. 440 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: As we were talking about your firm. You know that 441 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: you founded in Tween called Family First Sports Firm. We 442 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: talked about empowerment. Let's talk about the economic growth that 443 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: you deal with your players. Right. Well, one thing we 444 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: want to do is we want to put the dollar 445 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: black back in the black community. You know. Um. We 446 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: we want to invest in small businesses. We want to 447 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: support UM young entrepreneurs. We want to get like I said, 448 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: we want to we were voice for the unheard. We 449 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: want to speak for the unheard. Man. It's not saying 450 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do with big companies and stuff. I mean, 451 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: we gotta deal with Nike, we gotta we do deals 452 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: with Red Bulls. So that's not to say we're not done. 453 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: We're not stupid. When we say economic growth, we want 454 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: to put the dollar black back in the black community. 455 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: You know. We want these players to help their family out, 456 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: but do it in a way that's gonna create growth, 457 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: not just say, man, mom, here go a hundred thousand 458 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: dollars like no, mama, we're gonna create a company or 459 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: escorp or LLC. You're gonna be the you know, create 460 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: a foundation and grow it, you know, not just here 461 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: goes some money, like no, you take this money and multiplied, 462 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, making times ten, you know, teen x and 463 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: growing in something else. So that's what we mean when 464 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: we say economic growth. Just teaching these players financial literacy 465 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: and you know, financial growth, and that's what so many, 466 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: not just in basketball, but at all sports. The financial 467 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: literacy part fails so many because they don't have mentors. 468 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: Because I consider your mentor too to these young men, 469 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: because as well as an agent representative so black excellence. 470 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: You know, I hear black excellent throughout your force. I 471 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: hear the ability to give back to the black community. 472 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: That's all part of the empowerment. Now, we went through 473 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: a very amazing season that happened this year because of 474 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: COVID eighteen and the civil unrest. We saw the actual 475 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: NBA walk off the court basically based on the incident 476 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: that happened in Milwaukee. How did your players deal with 477 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: that and how did you deal with it? Chris Um. 478 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: It was a very emotional time. As you know, Damien Dodson, 479 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: he went to Yatees High School which grew up in 480 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: the same neighborhood, same high school as George Floyd. So 481 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: they hit close to home. And you know Stephen Jackson, 482 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's a good friend of mine. He's one 483 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: of the people are starting to business, one of the 484 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: first NBA players I started working out. Uh, you know 485 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: that he was very close to George Floyd. I mean 486 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: they called each other twins, so that I mean they 487 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: hit home for us. They hit close to and actually 488 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: one of the players and there I knew from Yates 489 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: High schools. George Floyd was his cousin, which I didn't know, 490 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: and so they're close to home. So we participated in 491 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: the marches in Houston, Um Fox, you know, we went 492 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: and flew up the Sacramento participated in peaceful protests. And 493 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: I say peaceful because you know we want the ones 494 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: riding and looting. But that's a story for another day. 495 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: But participating in peace for protests and Sacramento, and we 496 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: just encouraged our players to vote and speak out on 497 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: any issues. Foxes very vocal on his issues and even 498 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: even wore entire racists on the back of this jersey 499 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: in the bubble. You know, so all our players are 500 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: very outspoken and you know, very vocal about the movement. 501 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: Um that was that's going on. Now, that's really important 502 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, if social media 503 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: plays a role in that, you know, because you have 504 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: to be conscious of social media can be a double 505 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: as sword. You know, you could post the wrong thing 506 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden people criticize it. For 507 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: you post the right thing and then get increased the 508 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: engage meant that you want what what what? What? What 509 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: message are you trying to allow your players to put 510 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: out there? Like say, you talk about community of all, 511 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: when you talk about black excellent, you talk about economic growth, 512 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: we talked about empowerment. But what is your company. You know, 513 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: because you say family first, What does that mean when 514 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: you say family first? Family first is exactly what it means. 515 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: Your family is first. And just like a real family, 516 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: you're not gonna always disagree, I mean not, I mean people, 517 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: You're not gonna always agree. I always gonna be on 518 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: the same page. But at the end of the day, 519 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's all of you know, we all lived 520 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: together for the coming, for the coming goods. So that's 521 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: exactly what it means. And family first means, you know, 522 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: empowering your people. It's okay to grow with the people 523 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: that got you to where you are. You know, and 524 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: most agencies, most companies, I see, guys make it to 525 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: a certain status and then the agency takes it from there, like, okay, 526 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: we got it from here. Now you know, uh, your 527 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: youth coach, you coach, your mom and your daddy. You know, 528 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: they helped you get to this point. But now they're done. 529 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, we got it from here. Obviously, the player 530 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: is gonna grow and they're not gonna be depended upon 531 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: their family and things of that nature. But we still 532 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: try to do things to make sure that the family 533 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: is important. Like when Darren signed his Max contract. You know, 534 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: we had a big it's a picture on instated, a 535 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: big family celebration in Houston, you know, all black gutar. 536 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: It's probably over thirty people there, you know, so we 537 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: know we celebrated together as a family, not me and 538 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: Dearn in a private room by ourself, you know, popping 539 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: a bottle and all. We celebrated with everybody that was 540 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: important in his life. You know, we celebrated that together. 541 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: That was accomplishment for everybody. Because it takes a village. 542 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: But it takes a village. But they also lives in 543 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: a different city, Sacramento, and he's born and raised in Houston, Texas. 544 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: How does that allow him to be the person he 545 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: wants to be because Sacramento is a much farther the environment, 546 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: as far as population, it's not as I want to say, 547 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: African American friendly as the city of Houston is. So 548 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: how does he deal with that? Mr? Fox Um, he's 549 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: a very smart dude. He's a very cultural dude. And 550 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: I said his parents have done a great job of 551 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: keeping him grounded. His mom has a foundation Foxhole Family 552 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Foundation and supports breast counsel wareness because she's a breast 553 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: counsel sur about that. Yes, and the dad started AU 554 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: Team Team Fox, you know, for the seven of every graders. 555 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: So that keeps him connected to the city of Houston. 556 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: That keeps him ground. He comes back and supports the 557 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Air You program, comes back to tournaments, he comes back 558 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: to events that his mom's doing, so that keeps them 559 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: very connected and tied to the city of Houston. Now 560 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: your firm, you have two athletes. We continue to have 561 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: talked about how do you recruit future athletes? Are I know, 562 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: first of all, you can't reveal certain things on this show, 563 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: but how you go about recruiting the next Damien Dots 564 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: the next deeron Fox? Right? Well, I said, I want 565 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: to leave mother two guys out as well. I have 566 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: two guys that are currently in the NBA, Fox and Dotson. 567 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: I have one former NBA player who spent four years 568 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: in the NBA, Eric Morland. He actually want to ring 569 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: with the Toronto Raptors. He's currently playing in China. And 570 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: then I also represent josh Niebo who's a rookie who 571 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: he decided not to try to NBA al the G 572 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: League round. He's playing in Israel right now. So I 573 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: have two guys playing international and two guys that are 574 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: currently in the NBA. And how got barb recruiting. It's 575 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: all about relationships, man. I don't do a lot of 576 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: time races, and I don't d M random guys like hey, hey, 577 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: what's what's your name. I have a lot of relationships 578 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: built all over the country through ANYU coaches and high 579 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: school coaches, college coach, and I just reach out to 580 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: my contacts. I kind of checked the board and see 581 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: who would be a good fit, and then I, you know, 582 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: I reach out to the necessary people. You know. And 583 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: I've heard about the European, the China, the Israel. Let's 584 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: talk about that, because that's that's that's a that's a 585 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: it's it's some players that play their entirely their life. 586 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: In fact, you know, Stephan Marbury went over to China 587 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: and became the biggest talent that he ever was in 588 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: the US. So let's talk about before we wrap up. 589 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to You have the G legal course 590 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: that's tied to the b A, and the NBA is 591 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: also saying they are allowed veterans to come into the 592 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: NBA the G League this year, something they weren't doing 593 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: in the past, and so now let's talk about going overseas, 594 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: the benefits of going overseas and also it's not being 595 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: like a death kill to your career. Well, going over seas, 596 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: you gotta make a conscious charts was like, man, I'm 597 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: not chasing the NBA dream no more. If it happens, 598 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: it happens. But now I want to make money and 599 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to feed my family. So the G League 600 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: is for guys that's still chasing the NBA dream because 601 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: you're getting paying minimum money. But it's like, man, I 602 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: wants to work from the NBA, I'm gonna keep chasing it. 603 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: I tell young guys that's kind of on the edge 604 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: and give yourself a chance. Go to G League for 605 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: two or three years while you're still young. Tree. After 606 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: two or three years, you gotta do, you know, you 607 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: gotta make a business decision and go ahead and you know, 608 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: try to build a financial future for you and your family. 609 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: And so that's what Eric Morland did. He he played 610 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: in the inn bed for four or five years, he 611 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: won a championship and now he he's making you know, 612 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: last year he made seven figures in China. This year 613 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: he's making high six figures. So he's doing really well 614 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: for himself. And that's really what it's all about, you know. 615 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: In the end, it's about uh, you know you let's 616 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: let's let's let's move back the NBA name. It's a business. 617 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: It's like I, you know, I have a job. You 618 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: have a job, Okay, the NBA playing basketball, that's your skill. 619 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: You know. Some people are engineers, some people are artists, 620 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: some people are teaching, some people are doctors. They played 621 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: basketball for a living. So child at Israel gives them 622 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity to do what they are skilled best to do, 623 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: to play basketball, put the ball in the hole. So 624 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about right now. It's the business side. 625 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: And don't get caught up into if I don't make 626 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: an NBA man, what I'm gonna do. Well, you do 627 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: a lot. You can go overseas and make a profitable living. 628 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Especially and then when you look at the w n 629 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: b A the women over there, they make more money 630 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: in the European leagues than they make in the w 631 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: NBA league. And so and what did you say earlier? 632 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: You said you play at the parks and funding how 633 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: much did you get paid to do that? I was 634 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: all part free exactly. Y'all be at home playing for 635 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: free anyway, So don't get it twisted like this is 636 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: a great living and wake up and play basketball every day. 637 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: And that's why I would be at the why I'm 638 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: saying the local Boys and Girls club playing for free anyway, 639 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Because you love the game. That's why I wanted to 640 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: get it. You're getting paid to do something that you love. 641 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to bring you on the show 642 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, we we we 643 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: we know about the rich Paul's out there and the 644 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: other agencies out there, but I've've been first of all, 645 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: you in Houston. I wanted to shine light on you 646 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: being in Houston and plus your real dude. I did 647 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: my background on used to Richard. They said, it's good Chris. 648 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: He keeps it real. You know, he is who he 649 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: is and uh and and and he's been fortunate and 650 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: blessed to be attached to very talented guys who's playing 651 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: in the NBA. But like I said, I only brought 652 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: up Damien's you know, Damien's name and Daron's name because 653 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: it was part of your bio that was sent over 654 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: to me. The most fascinating part of your relationship. All 655 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: the two players that are playing in China and playing 656 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: in Israel, because it goes back to the business side 657 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: of the game, business side of the industry. You know, 658 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant's dad, Kobere born in Italy. It really born 659 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: in Italy because his dad was playing in Italy. And 660 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: so this is not something short term going overseas. It's 661 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: not a negative spirit. A lot of players are bypassing 662 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: high school and playing in Australia playing overseas instead of 663 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: saying I'm going to a G league, I'm gonna give 664 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: up about one year in college. I'm gonna play with 665 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: some grown men. And that's what it's all about. So 666 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: what's the future of Family First Sports Firm? My friend, 667 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: everybody I was asking me that, I'm like, be honest, 668 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: wherever God leaves me man, Um, I'm taking it day 669 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: by day, claiming by clients. UM. I have a lot 670 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: of new exciting things that you can't announced yet, but 671 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be, you know, coming pretty soon from 672 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: the groundbacking things that I don't think no other agency 673 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: has that are is doing. So I'm always thinking outside 674 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: of the box. And I was thinking how can that 675 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: be different? You know what the whole industry is going, right, 676 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm going to left makes 677 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to opposite way. Yeah, you know, every every 678 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: player is not gonna be for family first. This is 679 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: for people who are believe in their step and who 680 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: are confident and who about empowerment. And you know, you 681 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: know some people want the comfort of man, I'm going 682 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: to CIA or Rock Nation. You know they got the 683 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: big name. There's some people that's like, man, you know, 684 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: I want to be groundbreaking. I want to be different. 685 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: I want to go on a roster where you know, 686 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm just a name on the on the wall. I'm 687 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: one of for the climates. You know. I want to 688 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: go someone to get individualized attention and where I'm gonna 689 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: be an important key peace. Well, I like what you 690 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: said individualized attention because that's what you get when you 691 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: go to these big agents and you don't get apologize, 692 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: you don't get you can be uh forgotten peace. If 693 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: you don't get the contract, they won't nurture your next step. 694 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: And that's what you do with your firm. And I 695 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on money making conversations. 696 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: Share your story and I'm proud of your man. And 697 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: any time these little you know, these the these the 698 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: projects that you want to announce, please come on Money 699 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: Made Conversation. What I like to do. This I like 700 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: to do Chris. And next time, let's bring your wife 701 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: on the show too, because she found this first year 702 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: and so I love doing that power couple uh interviews. 703 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: And so next time you come on the show, let's 704 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: bring on the show and talk about her contributions to 705 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: why this company was found in the twining their team, 706 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: but more importantly, used me as a legitimate sounding board 707 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: to put your brands out their ideas you have out 708 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: there if you want your clients interviewed on my on 709 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: the show. As you can see, I'm a major player 710 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: in the platform world. I get the biggest talent. I'm 711 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: a major player, man, you know. And in the game. 712 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: He start asking me what you what you like man, 713 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm a major player in the business. That's what I 714 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: come on, Chris. Well, Chris, we talked soon. Brother. I 715 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: appreciate you, man, really appreciate you man, and I love 716 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: your talent. Man. That that Fox kid man, I was 717 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: sold on when he dropped those tears and Damien when 718 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: he made the knicks. US say, brother, that's hard working. 719 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: A lot of blessings. Man. We got real news. Man, 720 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: we got real people and not coming real dudes. 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