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Speaker 2: Let's give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Hello,

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Speaker 2: Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 2: my bes friend Mike Harmon. Game four of the World

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Speaker 2: Series goes to the Blue Jays in a game that

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Speaker 2: I think we were all the biggest baseball fans in

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 1: I think we were all happy. It was kind of

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Speaker 1: a boring game. We couldn't get any higher than the

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Speaker 1: fever pitch you're at. Last night was one of the

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Speaker 1: all time greatest World Series games we've ever seen. In

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Speaker 1: a prisoner of the moment take, maybe the best game

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Speaker 1: since Game six eighty six met Red Sox kind of

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Speaker 1: needed a day to catch our breath. They should have

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Speaker 1: postponed the game for a day. Hey, listen, we want

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Speaker 1: everybody to really understand what we just saw and talk

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Speaker 1: about the greatness of Otani in this game and all

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Speaker 1: the different twists and turns in the ins and outs.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wait a couple of days before we played

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Speaker 1: game four. Okay, but it happened.

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Speaker 2: No, but it was a weekday, so everybody got to

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Speaker 2: Blovi eight on it today. So I mean everybody got

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Speaker 2: their spin, so you got plenty of time. And look,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to a boring game. I was hoping

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Speaker 2: for another twelve and thirteen inning. Oh no, here, what

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Speaker 2: kind of chaos we're getting? No strike while we're hot?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: It's why when when when a group puts together an

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Speaker 1: album and a rock puts an album together, they don't

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Speaker 1: just put hey, we're gonna put all the best fastest

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Speaker 1: songs are the far the the first seven songs, No,

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Speaker 1: because you gotta be able to start out with something big.

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Speaker 1: Then you kick it up a notch, but then you

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Speaker 1: dial it back like the greatest hits of the ages

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Speaker 1: that nowhere else to go, right. John Cusack taught us

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Speaker 1: that in high fidelity, right, you gotta take it down

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Speaker 1: a notch. Right, So we had the the the absolute

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Speaker 1: apex of baseball last night. Now we could it down

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Speaker 1: and we're tied to to apiece going into a big game.

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Speaker 1: We've had a day to recuperate, rest, relax. Now we're

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Speaker 1: ready for the next one. But we could take it

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Speaker 1: down a notch. This this was cranking well it had

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Speaker 1: This is the hey take it to a boil your

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Speaker 1: about we were at like the top of il Cappy

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Speaker 1: We're in t Wallowy Meadows like we were at top

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Speaker 1: that's how, that's where the level we came to.

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Speaker 4: We had to come down. Copy Todd. He was on

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Speaker 4: We had to come down a little bit. We had to.

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Speaker 2: Well we did and came down because there was a

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Speaker 1: What's some big stuff coming off a game for into

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Speaker 1: game five to push this forward? Apparently, well, we're managing

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Speaker 1: we talked about this. The Dodgers just aren't hitting right,

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Speaker 1: and Otani had been making up for a lot of ills.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers haven't hit since the first two games against

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Speaker 1: That's the last time they really hit. They hit a

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Speaker 1: Haven't really hit this series either.

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Speaker 1: We said, something needs to happen batting order wise. There

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Speaker 1: so Tani's at first, but we're getting Mookie bad at bats.

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Speaker 1: Steve just Sager said it a few moments ago. Lineup

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Speaker 1: may look a little different tomorrow. We're managing the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: First off, for those that are gonna start tweeting at

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Speaker 2: how about a fresca? He knows damn well that Keith

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Speaker 2: Hernandez bad and left handed. Okay, it was.

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Speaker 1: So you think that's what people are gonna worry about

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Speaker 1: let's put a sixty Keith Hernandez in the lineup, who

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Speaker 2: Keith can't sayup for that. I just wanted to laugh.

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Speaker 2: It was either to make a joke about his mustage.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think Keith doesn't do the World Series? Guy,

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Speaker 1: it's too late for him when games on the West

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Speaker 2: Keith is because he sucks.

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Speaker 1: You stop about Keith Nandez. That was I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was the That was the greatest moment of Frostburg's life.

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Speaker 1: We almost shared in my life. Yeah, dude, you were

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Speaker 1: but I mean almost but fumble almost ship. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: Did you offer to help him move? No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, but almost sharing an elevator with Keith

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Speaker 4: We tasted his mustache. Basically, oh that's good. That's a horrible.

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Speaker 4: That'sn't the worst thing. Yeah, you told me it tasted

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Speaker 2: All of that to say, yes, you have to shake

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Speaker 2: And we talked about replacements and bullpen management where you

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Speaker 2: I could see your your brain has just gone into

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Speaker 1: You're saying all these great things, and all I think

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Speaker 1: of being really close to Keithing ends his mustache like

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Speaker 1: Frostburg's put that image out there and I can't get passed.

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Speaker 4: Did you try to shave it off? She can keep

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Speaker 4: it for posterity. Jason told me his mustag smelled like

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty six, still has the champagne bubbles and what

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Speaker 1: That's a nineteen eighty six is uh dracarno ar and

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah there you go, oh wow, Yeah, it's nicely done.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, all of that to say it's you're running

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Speaker 2: Paul Morosi last hour, Uh look, it's nothing nothing new.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've watched this Dodger offense being grossly inconsistent

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Speaker 2: over the course of the year. A lot of that

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Speaker 2: deservedly and rightly so at what Mookie Bets has historically

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Speaker 2: he's a Golden Glove finalist. That's that's not helping you

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Speaker 2: move runners around, it's around the diamond. It helps make

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Speaker 2: on the field. Don't get me wrong, run saved and

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Speaker 2: all of those kind of fun things between he and

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Speaker 2: showy Antonio and we watched it in the eighteen inning marathon.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we can intentionally walk him five

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Speaker 2: about Mookie Betts putting goodwood on the on the ball

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Speaker 2: and sending us home. That is that is the biggest

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Speaker 2: indictment you can make. And yes, it's all respect to Otani,

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Speaker 2: it's complete utter disrespect to what is a former MVP,

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Speaker 2: but recognizing the struggles he's had at the plate.

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Speaker 1: So that's what to expect. Lineup wise, I also expect this.

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Speaker 1: You are gonna get the ace treatment tomorrow from Blake snow.

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Speaker 1: This is why he needs to start game one of

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell will come up big. Okay, And sometimes it

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Speaker 1: can be as simple as look at his home road

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Speaker 1: Snell pitching tomorrow at home Dodger Stadium, he's he just

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Speaker 1: is a different guy, a different kind of attitude. You've

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Speaker 1: seen his biggest success over the course of the past

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Speaker 1: few weeks have been games at Dodger Stadium. Look, it's

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Speaker 1: would like from a guy you're paying that kind of

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Speaker 1: money too. But we're talking about one game tomorrow. You

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Speaker 1: need Blake Snell four. I expect him to be the

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Speaker 1: Still it wasn't absolutely out and out terrible, but it

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Speaker 1: was much rougher in Game one that we thought it

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers need That's why this guy pitches all the

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Speaker 1: big games, because he wants the ball, He's got the attitude.

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Speaker 1: This is where the Dodgers need more than just a

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Speaker 1: well pitched game. They need someone to grab the team emotion.

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Speaker 1: They need to be the emotional leader tomorrow and that's

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Speaker 1: what Blake Snell is going to do. The Dodgers need

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Speaker 1: that because they were really flat today coming off the

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Speaker 1: but they're not hitting. They need something. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a little tinkering with the lineup tomorrow, which again

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Speaker 1: we're managing for thirty thirty miles away because that's what's

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Speaker 1: be really really surprised if he's not. If it's not

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Speaker 1: one of those vintage six to seven in one run

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell performances tomorrow. The Dodgers had enough to win

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Speaker 1: and they're going back to Toronto with the three games

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Speaker 2: Five eurn runs in thirty eight and a third innings

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Speaker 2: one hundred points lower at home than they were in

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Speaker 2: assume he's still out for tomorrow. So Lucas had two

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Speaker 1: And I get a theory on why you didn't see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, biggest game in the NBA tonight coming up in

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Speaker 4: Why I'm not upset the Knicks lost and I'm not

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Speaker 4: really not a no, not really.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. But you asked a very interesting

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers go to the bullpen. It's lower leverage, guys,

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be that.

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Speaker 1: and being able to again just he's not a guy

434
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Speaker 1: who just give him the ball and I can throw

435
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: it and put me in the game.

436
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 4: You know, he needs certain things.

437
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: Now we've talked about it being as a colossal red

438
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: ass and temperamental when it comes to all of those things,

439
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 2: get it and it's worked to a Hall of Fame career.

440
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: So you saw him warm up a couple of times,

441
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: and he comes in and he faces one batter and

442
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 1: it looked like that was all he could muster. Was

443
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: I got enough for one batter?

444
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 4: Right?

445
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: You know he's at the very very end. So seeing

446
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: that last night, I wasn't surprised. We didn't see him

447
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 1: again today because all of a sudden, you're gonna change

448
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 1: that strategy. Okay, Well, Clayton now we're thinking, can go

449
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 1: out and do it. And because the last thing you

450
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 1: want is for Clayton Kershaw to get lit up and

451
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: you lose the game.

452
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean at that point, you put him

453
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Speaker 2: in that position yesterday.

454
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: Right, right, But you had no exhale. Yesterday was a

455
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 1: position to succeed. Today was a position to fail.

456
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 4: Right.

457
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,959
Speaker 1: The Blue Jays were having better at bats, they had

458
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: better jump, They had the advantage today the Dodgers did not.

459
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: And you're past the point of well, Clayton coming in

460
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Speaker 1: would be a big lift. No, Clayton coming in last

461
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: night was the big lift. That was a position where

462
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: you take everything into account as a manager and say,

463
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: all right, is this the time where we can bring

464
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: in the best picture of our franchise is seen in

465
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: fifty years, maybe the best the best left handed pitchers,

466
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: Sandy Kofax are going to We can he succeed here?

467
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: Can he give us one out? Yes, one hundred percent.

468
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: This is the chance to do it. And really he

469
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: should have been the guy to come in next in

470
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: right starting pitcher has it pitched a while his arm

471
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: is live and said, nope, thanks Clayton, that's it. But again,

472
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: it looked like that was all he could muster. Now

473
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Speaker 1: could I see potentially a situation like later in the

474
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Speaker 1: series where you would do the same thing, not on

475
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: the road, you know, not in Toronto. So I really

476
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: think last night was the last moment you're getting for

477
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: Kershaw's career because it was everything that Dodgers could line

478
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: up to be. And you can argue whether or not

479
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: he should be on the roster for sentimental reasons, but

480
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: the overall impact of we do have relievers that aren't

481
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: going to pitch a lot. You know, there's enough fun

482
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: that no one's expecting an eighteen in the game, obviously,

483
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 1: but we do have guys that aren't expected to pitch

484
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot, maybe one batter here and there, and Clayton

485
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: Kershaw was that guy. Maybe we can find a way.

486
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: But just having him on the roster, having him be

487
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: around the team, having him end his career this way

488
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: is important to the Dodgers rather than just hey Clayton, thanks,

489
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: you're not on the roster at all. That's a really

490
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: difficult way for him to end and for the Dodgers

491
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: to end, so to have him around where he's a

492
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: break glass in case of emergency, you break the glass once, right,

493
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: and there's the emergency. You're not breaking more glass. I

494
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: think that's the lagest time you'll see Kershaw playing Major

495
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: League basely.

496
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Speaker 2: I just think the hard part of all you just

497
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: said was more or less, you can't put him on

498
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: the road. He's a guy's a Hall of Favor who

499
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: had a great year, and you're basically saying, well, you

500
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: can only put him in front of the fans because

501
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: he's like Hulk Hogan that he needs to crowded, put

502
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: it behind.

503
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 4: It, come on.

504
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: But it's the same thing as high leverage relievers versus

505
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: low leverage relievers. You don't bring in low leverage guys

506
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't know what they can do.

507
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: What can Kershaw do in relief is he's someone that

508
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: can come in and all of a sudden. But you

509
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: said this was a low leverage situation. Last night was

510
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: the high leverage, and now he did it. So if

511
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna and now the.

512
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: Possible, maybe you could steal an inning and not get

513
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: back into these guys arms, or and don't put Blake.

514
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 4: Trying in a position to do anything.

515
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: Needing one out when the crowd is going crazy and

516
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: the game is going your way is one thing. Putting

517
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: Kershaw in with second and third and nobody out is

518
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: a position to fail for him. That's they don't go

519
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: your way, base is loaded. You're being brought in, but

520
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: even from going against you. But this is where you

521
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: get to the strategy and the philosophy of hey, we're

522
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: trying to win games. Is it worth it not putting

523
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: in because you want to protect his legacy and you

524
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: don't want him to end with Well, then then the

525
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: last time they brought him in in Game four of

526
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: the World Series, they went on to lose, and he

527
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: gave up four runs in the sixth inning and suddenly

528
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: it went from a two to one game to a

529
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: six to one game. That's the last we saw Clayton

530
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: Kershaw like that. That's a that's I mean it right, right,

531
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: agree or disagree. That's a hard thing for the Dodgers

532
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: to deal with.

533
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 4: Protecting a guy's feelings.

534
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: If he was the better he's not just a better

535
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: option than or trying it.

536
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't have a lot of great that's the thing.

537
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: You don't have a lot of.

538
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: That's what I mean.

539
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: You don't have a lot you, Kurt. I'd rather just

540
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: trust that he's gonna get me. Okay, let me let me.

541
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: Let me flip this around, even if it goes so,

542
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: which it did, any let me flip this around on you.

543
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: Has Clayton Kershaw being on the Dodgers World Series roster

544
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: been a success so far?

545
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

546
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so today might not have been. So you

547
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: can say, hey, we made the right call. We kept

548
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: him out there. We put him out there when we

549
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: know when we can fire that bullet, and that's what

550
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: we did. Now, today was not a day to fight.

551
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: And maybe Kershaw, hey the day after he pitched in,

552
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe I can't come back and pitch today. I just

553
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: can't do it. I'm not I'm not that guy. I

554
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: can't come back and do it. I mean really, there's

555
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of stuff that went

556
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: into that decision. I'm sure with Kershaw on the one,

557
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: no doubt. But but the point is is I don't

558
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: see another scenario in which he comes in to a

559
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: game where it's in doubt and he can do it.

560
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: Because you saw him last night and the Dodgers escape,

561
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: But what do we see He comes in, bases loaded,

562
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: nearly walks a guy, yeah, and and and has to

563
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: come back and and and and throw a pitch that

564
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: really should have been ball four.

565
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 4: I mean it was.

566
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: You look at the swing on that pitch by Lucas.

567
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: You go, dude, what are you doing?

568
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: Man?

569
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: That's zero plate? Doesn't you just watch account get to

570
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: three and one? You watch three and two. That's a

571
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: pitch that you can see right away that is not

572
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: coming over the plate. That's not even gonna That's not

573
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: even a pitch where hey, maybe it's on the corner

574
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: or close to the corner. This is something that Will

575
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: Smith is leaning out, stopping from being a wild pitch

576
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: and stuff. No, I'm gonna get that beat on it.

577
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that.

578
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 4: Beat on it.

579
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: I mean you you escape with it last night, you

580
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: escape with it right, and you reset for today? Can

581
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: you reset with Kershaw or that that was at the moment,

582
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: Just the look there.

583
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: Were no good options. Is the demolition of a guy

584
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: at this point in his career.

585
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying he's done, right, we know he's

586
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: done after the next three games. It's just the I

587
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: got banned in trying it on my next option. Sure,

588
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: how much different is that? Sure, No, it's it's it's

589
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: not it's not. So now we're just protecting failing exactly.

590
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: You can't exactly. You can argue keeping him on the

591
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: roster because of the intangibles and finishing his career and

592
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: being a legend and not walking off the mound in

593
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: the playoffs and people going, yeah, Clayton was great, but

594
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: his last moment, just like his entire career, was in

595
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: the playoffs. He couldn't get enough outs.

596
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: We wound up losing, Like you can, you can, you

597
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: can debate that, but the Dodgers can look at it

598
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: and say it's success because he helped us win Game three.

599
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: He helped us with that struggle, with that ground out

600
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: to come get out of that jam and went on

601
00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: to win the game.

602
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: Later worked. Now, are we can we push that?

603
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 5: Like?

604
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: Can we push the envelope with that? I don't know

605
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: you could push the on. It took him forever to

606
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: get ready to come into that game, and he almost

607
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: walked the guy. Okay, at least he think the other

608
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: I think he was.

609
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Ready, like he was waiting a long time to come

610
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: into the game.

611
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: But then why did he not pitch, Because because clearly

612
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: in an extra inning game, Kershaw would be the guy

613
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: who was like, okay, face is one batter here, We're

614
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: putting him back out there for the night. Nope, Nope,

615
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: he's done. He's out of the game.

616
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: That's it. He can't do it, Like, I don't know

617
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: what he's capable of.

618
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what he can do, uh, coming in

619
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: a relief in the Yeah, no, it's all no, but

620
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: like but but but I mean.

621
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: Dismissing it, but as a road or being done to

622
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: preserve his feelings is tough, right.

623
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: But I mean that.

624
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: But that's but that's the thing is that you know,

625
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: whether you agree or disagree on it, like, I don't

626
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: see another situation in which he pitches again. And it's

627
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: it's weird to think, you know, every time you see

628
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: him pitch the end of the air, Wow, this is

629
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: the last time. This is the last time. I really

630
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: think last night was the last time one batter at

631
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: that moment. Are they going to bring him in the

632
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: ninth inning of a of a tie game in game

633
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: seven or you know, and and and say, hey, you

634
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: got to get one out here. I don't think that's

635
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen.

636
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 4: I don't.

637
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they they can trust him when the

638
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: chances of success are better than fifty percent.

639
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: I'd like to think in the ninth inning of a game.

640
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: But Sosaki's the guy that's coming into the shore.

641
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: But if it's a lady, but who knows what kind

642
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: of All Right, let's say it's a twelve inning game.

643
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: Let's say the thirteenth inning like it was last night.

644
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: Can you bring him in for that one out?

645
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 4: What else you got? Hard?

646
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: Man, that's a hard that's a hard thing to say. Okay,

647
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: and lightning one?

648
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: Well?

649
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: Man, can you believe the Dodgers just really quick? Can

650
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: you believe that the story last night in the eighteenth

651
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: inning was the Dodgers we're gonna go to a position

652
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: player the next inning? Like when I heard that, I

653
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: stopped that. I said, if the Dodgers do this, I

654
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Speaker 1: don't know that Dave Roberts can come back and manage

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Speaker 1: the next day, like you're gonna go through eighteen innings. No,

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Speaker 1: you can't bring Will Klein back another inning. But when

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Speaker 1: Tom Verducci was reporting, oh, the Dodgers can go to

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Speaker 1: position player, next inning the pitch.

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? Are you dude?

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Speaker 1: You can't come back and manage a team again if

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Speaker 1: you have if you have miss misappropriated it so much

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Speaker 1: that you have to go to a position player.

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Speaker 4: Where the Blue.

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Speaker 1: Jays had enough, they had a guy ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean he lost the game giving up the homeowner,

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Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman, but like you knew that you had enough,

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Speaker 1: They had enough for another few innings before they had

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Speaker 1: to worry about maybe it's a starting pitcher of the

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Speaker 1: next whatever. But but that talked that the Dodgers going

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Speaker 1: to go to a position player, Like I said, that's

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Speaker 1: that Dave Roberts, and they might have a new manager

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Speaker 1: for Game four if they if they do that and

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Speaker 1: they lose this game, I mean, that's why I was

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Speaker 1: so glad to see Will Klein come in to pitch

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Speaker 1: that last inning, and really you knew that was it

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Speaker 1: for him. They would have to make another decision after that,

677
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Speaker 1: because he gave everything he could, you know, and that

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Speaker 1: last you could tell, really you could tell he was

679
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Speaker 1: just at the end, like can you get one more

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Speaker 1: pitch out of the guy. So I was really glad

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Speaker 1: that happened, because boy, I can't imagine what that was

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Speaker 1: going to be, what the impact of that was going

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Speaker 1: to be. Eighteen innings and then here's Key k Hernandez

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Speaker 1: or Miguel Rojas to pitch in the nineteenth and yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it would.

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Speaker 2: Have been that fun, Oh man, that would have been

687
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: come on game full of storylines. For that to be

688
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Speaker 2: the closing act. How great would that be? Wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been great for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: You don't know.

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Speaker 1: He pitches a perfect inning, strikes all three guys out there.

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Speaker 1: You had no idea, Man, the keyk Hernandez sweeper was

693
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Speaker 1: really working in that game.

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Speaker 4: He was he might come out for another inning. Year.

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Speaker 1: Tell how to find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 1: world of sports. But guy's been called the Key k

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Speaker 1: Hernandez a Fox Sports Radio. When he's on the mound,

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Speaker 1: he wears that big crazy helmet too. It's Steve di

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Speaker 1: Sego Simon.

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Speaker 3: Toronto beat the Dodgers in LA six to the final

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Speaker 3: in Game four of the World Series Series, even at

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Speaker 3: two games apiece. Shane Bieber the winning pitcher five and

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Speaker 3: a third innings, one run. This is a guy who

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Speaker 3: was a cy Young Award winner in Cleveland. He had

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Speaker 3: only seven starts this regular season after Tommy John Surgery

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Speaker 3: acquired at the trade deadline, and he's from southern California,

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Speaker 3: and one at Dodgers Stadium tonight. At Seattle recently, he

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Speaker 3: went six innings with eight strikeouts, but then in Game

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Speaker 3: seven the Alcs didn't last through the fourth, got the

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Speaker 3: victory tonight, and Bieber becomes the first pitcher in MLB

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Speaker 3: history to miss at least the first four months of

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Speaker 3: the season injured and still win a World Series game

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Speaker 3: that same year. It'll be rookie trey Ya Savage in

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Speaker 3: Game five in LA Wednesday against veteran Blake Snell, who

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Speaker 3: is one to say younger too. Friday. Toronto will be

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Speaker 3: hosting Game six tonight. By the way, Vladimir Gurero Junior

717
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Speaker 3: an early two run homer he's betting four nineteen this postseason.

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Speaker 3: In the NBA's late game, mid third quarter at Golden

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Speaker 3: State Warriors ahead of the Clippers sixty to fifty seven

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Speaker 3: despite twenty points from James Harden. Only four other games,

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma City is five and oh after beating Sacramento one

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Speaker 3: oh seven to one oh one. Shay Gilgess Alexander scored

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Speaker 3: thirty one points. Chet Holmgern of OKC was out with

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Speaker 3: back tightness. Milwaukee got thirty seven points from Janisantenacumpo and

725
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: defeated New York won twenty one to one eleven. Jalen

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Speaker 3: Brunson thirty six points in defeat. Karl Anthony Towns went

727
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Speaker 3: two for twelve shooting from the floor. Miami rips Charlotte

728
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Speaker 3: one forty four to one seventeen, and Philadelphia is four

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Speaker 3: to oh after an overtime win at Washington one thirty

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Speaker 3: nine one thirty four. Tyrese Maxi with thirty nine points.

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Speaker 3: As for the NHL, every team in the league is

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Speaker 3: playing tonight. That's sixteen games total. Utah was eight and

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Speaker 3: two but lost at Edmonton six to three. New Jersey

734
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Speaker 3: was eight and one this year but lost to Colorado

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Speaker 3: eight to four. Dallas at home a won nothing winner

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Speaker 3: against Washington, Winnipeg beat Minnesota in overtime, Philadelphia in a

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Speaker 3: shootout over Pittsburgh, and it's currently the LA Kings leading

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Speaker 3: late second period three to two at San Jose. A

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Speaker 3: reminder This Saturday on Fox TV, Number one Ohio State

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Speaker 3: host Penn State at noon Eastern time. The first college

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Speaker 3: football playoff rankings come out in a week. The top

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Speaker 3: six this week in the media poll and the UPA

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Speaker 3: you know, the coaches poll and the AP pol. They

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Speaker 3: come out and they have a preseason. They have absolutely

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Speaker 3: no meaning to the season one, not at all. What

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Speaker 3: did the Reuters polls say? She may as well get

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Speaker 3: two guys on the corner. How do you think Ohio

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Speaker 3: State looked last week?

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Speaker 4: Had great? Did you know they were off last weekend?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: That kind of thing is how the voting listen.

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Speaker 1: James Franklin's going to have Penn State ready for this

753
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Speaker 1: Ohio State showdown, you mark my word.

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Speaker 4: We all just want to be one of those fired coaches.

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Speaker 3: At this point, the top six stayed the same in

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Speaker 3: the new College Football polls, led by Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: LSU is not ranked anymore, but Vanderbilt is number nine,

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Speaker 3: its highest ranking in the Ape Pole since nineteen thirty seven.

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Speaker 3: The New Orleans Saints will start rookie quarterback Tyler Shuck

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Speaker 3: at the Rams Sunday. He played seven years of college

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Speaker 3: football at Oregon, Texas Tech, and Louisville. Finally, Spencer Rattler

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Speaker 3: was bench during the last game as a pro. His

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Speaker 3: record is one and thirteen. Washington quarterback Jaden Daniels is

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Speaker 3: due to return to practice Wednesday after his hamstring injury.

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Speaker 3: The Commanders had no update on wide receiver Terry McLaurin,

767
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Speaker 3: who reaggravated his quad injury last night, and Ravens quarter

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Speaker 3: back Lamar Jackson practice fully. He's due to return to

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Speaker 3: play this Thursday night at Miami after missing three games

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Speaker 3: with a hamstring injury. Dolphins linebacker Bradley Chubb is expected

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Speaker 3: to play after shoulder and foot injuries.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon

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Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next

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Speaker 1: game of the night in the NBA, did an NBA

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Speaker 1: superstar a proof he's still the best player in the

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Speaker 1: game and b put thirty seven points up against the

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Speaker 1: team that's gonna be his new team at the deadline.

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Speaker 1: That's next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 4: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 4: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: ty Shirt, how close are we for holiday music. When

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Speaker 1: are you gonna start your holiday music day after Halloween?

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Speaker 1: What holiday are we talking about? Good Christmas? When Holliday?

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Speaker 4: Oh god? No holiday holiday?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Really? Oh god?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I mean we still got to get to

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Speaker 4: the Halloween music. I mean this is part of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean after Halloween, like after Halloween, like like the

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Speaker 2: day after Halloween. Yeah, after Thanksgiving, because that's usually when

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Speaker 2: all the all all the big holiday music flips over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the holiday. Yeah, November December.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that'd but usually you like to do things

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Speaker 1: a little bit differently, So I thought you would get

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Speaker 1: him in November.

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Speaker 4: Oh dude, I might play tomorrow. Okay, sure, you never

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Speaker 4: knows a wild wonderful Do.

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Speaker 2: You like holiday musically as long as it's here's the thing,

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Speaker 2: just like anything, as long as there are good holiday songs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, see, I'm good with all of it. Right.

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Speaker 2: It's like going to a concert, to services whatever, Like

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Speaker 2: all the energy is going in the same direction. Holidays

807
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Speaker 2: get people generally are happy. Yeah, okay, generally, But like

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Speaker 2: if I could do I mean, am I gonna listen

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Speaker 2: to Burl Lives?

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Speaker 4: Why not? I don't Maybe never hall Jolly, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Like you think of it as a snowman.

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00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, yeah, the only song Christopher Lee Maybe Doku Christmas,

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Speaker 6: A very count Doku Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's like like those are those are Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I will say though, Ai has made some great ones

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, wait, all right, I'm excited. I'm terrified, kind

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Speaker 4: of scary. All right.

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Speaker 1: Uh so we'll get back into the Game four of

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Speaker 1: the World Series coming up in a few minutes. But tonight,

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Speaker 1: big marquee game of the night in the NBA. Jannis

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Speaker 1: goes for thirty seven in a row and the Bucks

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Speaker 1: pull away from the Knicks a two point game with

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Speaker 1: about four minutes left. They wound up winning by ten,

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Speaker 1: and Jannis suddenly is Oh Jannis, remember he's the best

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Speaker 1: player in the league. Okay, first of all, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Joanna's had a great game. Awesome, Jannis has been the

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Speaker 1: best player for a long time. He's losing that crown

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Speaker 1: to Wemby. It's happening, Okay, I mean, yes, big game tonight,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome. Yes, right, And this doesn't mean that Yannis

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Speaker 1: is any worse. This is not that all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden all yan is know. This is well, but if

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Speaker 1: he's not the best, Wemby is ascending to pass him.

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Speaker 4: We're seeing it.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing Wenby put up Redis numbers and the Spurs

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Speaker 1: are for the Spurs are undefeated.

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Speaker 4: Man, I told you they are my long shot NBA five.

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Speaker 1: But Austin Reeves might have him beat Yeah, that's yes,

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Speaker 1: if he scores fifty a game.

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Speaker 4: If he scores fifty, that he's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have to carry him for a while because neither

842
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: of those guys are neither. They're big guys, are playing

843
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: a lot of games right now. But but look it

844
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: is is Yani is still that great? Yeah he is,

845
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: But just Wemby is ascending and he's going to pass

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Speaker 2: him sometime the next couple of weeks. He it's a

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: great reminder from Yannis. But Wemby is ascending faster than

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Speaker 2: anybody thought he was. I thought it would be some

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Speaker 2: point this year. Now it's gonna probably be my November.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Was I upset tonight that Jannis went for thirty seven

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Speaker 1: beat the Knicks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I never want the Nicks to seven in a row,

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Speaker 1: but Caitlyn's in there with a dead guy on them,

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Speaker 1: and uh, but I realized that this is Yannis score

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Speaker 1: thirty seven against the team, He's gonna be scoring thirty

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00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: seven to four after the deadline, all right, because you

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00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: know all the stories about Giannis and the Knicks, and

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00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: it didn't happen in the offseason, And clearly I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the Knicks philosophy was, we hired a new coach, we

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Speaker 1: have the talent, we have guys we like. We want

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Speaker 1: to play this out a little bit. If things get

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Speaker 1: crazyy of the deadline and we're underachieving, we need some Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's revisit. And I'm sure the Bucks said, great. The

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Speaker 1: Knicks have a lot of young talent on the team.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks have to trade a couple of big players

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Speaker 1: to make it work. Okay, we have the players to

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Speaker 1: make a big trade for Yannis work and the Bucks

870
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: if that's where Jannis wants to go, Jannis is, okay,

871
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: I'm good here for a while. I like it here,

872
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: but boy, if I get to New York and win,

873
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: that'd be awesome. And already tonight I saw I felt

874
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: like like speaking of holidays, like I was Scrooge getting

875
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: that glimpse of a ghost of Christmas future where Jannis

876
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: plays great and what happens tonight, Karl Anthony Towns was

877
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: not he had you know, he had a couple of

878
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: meltdowns during the game, and I'm just saying to myself,

879
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: this is how it's gonna be for cat all season, right,

880
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: not knowing if the Knicks are gonna continue to love him,

881
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: if they're gonna try to ship him out. It was

882
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: awkward last year. He's not a great defender, you know,

883
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: he and Bruntson together are not great defenders. And just

884
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: seeing tonight, I said, I can see the next few

885
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: months going like this with the Knicks are winning, but

886
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: they're not winning enough, and Karl Anthony Towns is not

887
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: showing in his second year that he's got some level

888
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: of growth to him and that the Knicks can can

889
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: win NBA title with Brunson being the one and him

890
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: being the one. A. So at the deadline, what's gonna happen.

891
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns, Ogian Unobi, somebody else are gonna wind

892
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: up getting dealt to the Bucks because if Jannis wants

893
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: to go, you got to get a couple of good

894
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: players for him. You got to find a way to

895
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: do that and get guys in the year you're paying

896
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: money to make the salaries match. The Knicks can make

897
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: all of that happen, and they will go overboard to

898
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: bring Giannis in because Giannis would then be the missing

899
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: piece of the Knicks, because you can't fall short in

900
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: a year where this year to get to the finals,

901
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: because you know, eventually Tatum's gonna come back, Haliburton's coming back.

902
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: The match.

903
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: You're getting better, right, all these teams, everybody's getting better

904
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: in the East. This is your year. You can't blow

905
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: that window. So that's what I thought tonight was, Yeah,

906
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: I'm okay because in a few months, if things go bad,

907
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: we're getting young. It's all good.

908
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if the Bucks trade Yannis and get

909
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: Cat back, I know, I know the whole salary thing,

910
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: but if he becomes the focal point of their.

911
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: Roster, it would be like, no, b it would be

912
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: somebody else, Like it would be a couple of really

913
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: good players like that. You're not gonna get a ton,

914
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're not gonna get crazy crazy.

915
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like, you don't want Cat, He's a guy.

916
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you're gonna get like you can't get rid of

917
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: whatever one one egg two whatever.

918
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 4: Trade too. It could be exactly, he's got to pass

919
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 4: through Milwaukee. He can't.

920
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: You can't say that's what we got for.

921
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: That is not going over.

922
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: It just just saying, you know, without getting a third

923
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: team involved, the Knicks have the pieces to make the

924
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: money work with talent and the salary.

925
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, we watched him. He's been very good at times.

926
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: He's also disappeared in big spots playoffs in the past.

927
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: We talk about his defense he Ian Bronson. Well, they

928
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: look what they did. They killed Carl.

929
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, they did. They did. But like I said, killers,

930
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: I'm no deadens.

931
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: Either we're great and we don't trade, or in three

932
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: months we have Giannest and then you won't come up. Dude,

933
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good man, I'm not. I am eaton

934
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: w's like Jamis Winston, Man, I got all kinds of

935
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: w's ws wsw's coming up next. Speaking to WS, we

936
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: get back to Game four of the World Series and

937
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: a big