1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: I feel like the very first time I played, I 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: definitely blacked out when I played. 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: I'll come to her great because I thought I had 4 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: blacked out. 5 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: That's a totally normal emotion, Okay, but no, I mean 6 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: everyone's so different. 7 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: I always try to. 8 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Focus on like an I saw that I could play 9 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: in my head, I talked right Caddy, and just. 10 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: Try to get through the first few holes and just survive. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: I am so pumped for today's guest for all the reasons. 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: She's an absolute boss on and off the golf course. 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: And I know you're gonna know this name. She's a 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: golf star and amazing mom and someone was just an 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: incredible story. She crushed it at Wake Forest, where she 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: was a two time All American and conference champion, and 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: not only that, she got inducted into their Hall of Fame. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: No big deal, right, And then from there she took 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: her talents to the pro stage, from the led to 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: LPGA Tour, winning the twenty fourteen Vulvic RICB Ladies Master 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: and making history as only the six black women to 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: compete on the LPGA Tour. In twenty twenty two, she 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: stepped away from competitive golf to welcome her first child, 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: and just a year later she became a mom of two. 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Now she's bringing her passion for the game in a 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: whole new way, hosting Tea to Dream on Golf Past, 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: where she's shining a light on golfers using their influence 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: to make a difference. Now, y'all, if this pod doesn't 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: pull on your heartstrings and make you become an even 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: bigger fan, I really don't know what more to tell you. 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: You just have to trust me and listen to the 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: very end. She's stunning, inspiring, and so much more. Without 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: further ado, please welcome Chyanne Woods to the party. Cheyenne, 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to the party. We're so excited to have you 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: and I really appreciate you being here in the studio. Well, 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna get started in a fun way. We like 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: to have a little four play in the beginning, so 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: we have a fun rapid fire questions of this or that? 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 3: I sure hope so? Okay? 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Golf or baseball golf for sure? 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: Okay? 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: North Carolina or Arizona? 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: Oh, Arizona? 46 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: Okay, love it? Which, by the way, North Carolina is 47 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: where she went to school. Yes, area's special place in 48 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: my heart, Yes, okay, r A CV Royal Pines Resorts 49 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: in Australia or Seven Canyons in Arizona. 50 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: Oh, Royal Pines, Yes, okay, that's where she won. 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: That is where she won. We love it. 52 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: Okay. 53 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: What's harder? Ten years playing professionally or being a mom 54 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: of two under two? 55 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: A mom of two under two? 56 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: Different challenge? 57 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, yeah, golfers you know three? 58 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, play Augusta National and pouring rain or 59 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: Saint Andrew's and forty mile per hour winds. 60 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: Oh. 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I think the proper way to play Saint Andrews is 62 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: in the wind's. 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: I would totally do that. Oh, we're playing Augusta in 64 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: the rain. 65 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Would you rather your kids grow up to be a 66 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: professional golfer or MLB. 67 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: Star MM or softball or softball? Yeah, that's true with 68 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: our little baby girl. Oh that's really hard. 69 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: I would say baseball. Really like the fact that and 70 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: when I go watch I don't have to walk. That 71 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: is a good point. And I can be indoors at 72 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: times and sit down. 73 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: And baseball they don't play in the rain a lot 74 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: of time. True, So I'm gonna go with the baseball. 75 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Baseball it is all right, last rapid fire question. 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: Caddy for Tiger at the Masters or have him caddy 77 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: for you at an LPGA event the Masters? Yeah, I 78 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: know hims down. 79 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Although I would be so nervous caddie and not want 80 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: to screw up, but that is just something you can't. 81 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: You can't miss. 82 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't miss that type of mop. 83 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be like the biggest crowd probably humanly possible, 84 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: to have you on the bag for him at the Masters. 85 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: That would that would be fun. 86 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: All right, So let's actually get started and get into 87 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: like your career and how you began golf. You actually 88 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: started golf at a very young age, like three years old. 89 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I honestly I don't even remember how old 90 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: I was, but golf was always around, right. 91 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: Neither of my parents played golf. I have two older brothers. 92 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: They never played, but my grandpa, Earl Woods, is the 93 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: one who got me into it. And at the time 94 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I got started, Tiger was maybe just turning pro, was 95 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: early nineties. I was watching him. I was in a 96 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: stroller when he played as an amateur. 97 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: Out here. I'm totally blanking. That's okay, that's again. What's 98 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: the course they played the Genesis. 99 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Side oh Riviera at Riviera, Yes, when he played as 100 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: an amateur, so I was there as a baby. 101 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: So it was just always around in my life. 102 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: And I started playing in my grandpa's garage with an 103 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: old cutdown club of Tigers. And I grew up in Arizona. 104 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: My grandpa and Tiger lived in California. We'd always come 105 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: out to visit summer vacations, and it just was something. 106 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I think I was growing up at the right age 107 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: as a lot of us were now in our thirties 108 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: where Tiger was everywhere on TV. He changed the game, 109 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: and as a five six seven year old watching him, 110 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: it was just the coolest thing ever, and I just 111 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: wanted to be like him, and so that's how I 112 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: got into golf. It just spurred this excitement about golf 113 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: in me that that's how I saw my life being 114 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: of playing on tour. 115 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: That's so wild. So what age were you when you 116 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: were like, yeah, I want to do this, like I 117 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: want to be a pro. 118 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Ever since I can remember, really yeah, honestly, and again, 119 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I think it's just seeing it and having that connection 120 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: to Tiger. I was like, it just was the coolest thing, 121 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: and I think also growing up a girl in the 122 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: sport and I had two older brothers, I always had 123 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: the mindset of what they can do, I can do 124 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: and trying to keep up with them. And I loved 125 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: surprising people as a young girl and saying I play. 126 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: Golf and yeah, I'm good at it. 127 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: So I just always saw golf in my life in 128 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: that way that that was the career I wanted, that 129 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: was the path I wanted to take. Luckily, my grandfather 130 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: also just instilled a lot of belief in myself. 131 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: I love from at. 132 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: A young age. I mean I was probably nine or 133 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: ten years old. I remember sitting in his kitchen and 134 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: he's making me breakfast and he told me like that 135 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: he could see me being on tour, that he believed 136 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: in me. And one of my favorite stories about my 137 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: grandpa is he used to work for IMG and he 138 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: was a scout to scout like junior golfers and potential, 139 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, up and coming players. And when I was 140 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: sitting in his kitchen on that day, he told me 141 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: that when I was like four or five years old, 142 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: he wrote an official report about me and he submitted 143 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: it officially into IMG. 144 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, what did you write and he. 145 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Goes, I'm not going to tell you what I wrote, 146 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: but one day when you turn pro, IMG will come 147 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and recruit you and they'll bring the letter and you 148 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: can read it then. So when I graduated from Wake Forest, 149 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: my grandfather had passed while I was in high school, 150 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: so this was a couple of years after and I graduated, 151 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to turn pro. IMG came and they brought 152 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the letter and I got to read it for the 153 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: first time. I and it was literally nineteen ninety three, 154 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I think, so I was three or four years old. 155 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: Wow, And he wrote what he saw in me. 156 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: He wrote that he could see me play on tour, 157 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: the skills that he could see in me. And those 158 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: are the types of things that I tell people make 159 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: a difference when you have someone in your corner that 160 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: believes in you and then you start to believe it too. 161 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 162 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: That is what always propelled me in my career and 163 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: my life with golf. 164 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: Like my grandpa could see it when I was three 165 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: or four years old, like I want to do it 166 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: for him. I want to do it because I believe 167 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: it too. And so that was a huge part of 168 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: my golf life of just having him as like that 169 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: foundation in that rock of like believing in me and 170 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: what I can do in the game of golf. 171 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: So what was your reaction in opening that letter, Like, 172 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: did you even remember it in that moment that he 173 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: had given you that? Yeah, it was always in the 174 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: back of my mind. I always remember that letter. I 175 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: always thought what did he write? 176 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: What did he think? And so when they did bring it, 177 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: it was like a full circle moment. It felt unreal, 178 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: honestly to. 179 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: See literally tear up right now thinking about it. 180 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine. 181 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: And it's in his handwriting, you know, it's like this 182 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: beautiful curse of and just to read his words, especially 183 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: after he had passed, and he was the one who 184 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: got me started. He was the one who taught me 185 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: what I knew about golf. So he was the biggest 186 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: figure in my life when it came to golf and 187 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do in this sport. So when 188 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I was able to sit there and see it, it 189 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: was just like, this is what I've been waiting for 190 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: and it just meant so much. So I have it 191 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: framed in our house and it's just one of those 192 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: really special moments that I will never forget. 193 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: That's so beautiful. You're gonna have to send me a 194 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: picture framed at your house. Okay, so you talked a 195 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: little bit about Wake Forest. You just got inducted into 196 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Congratulation, Thank you. What does that 197 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: honor mean to you? 198 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: It means a lot, and it feels surreal because Wake 199 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Forest has such a deep, deep history in every sport. 200 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's a small school, but they have such 201 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: depth and the athletes that they've produced while they be basketball, golf, soccer. 202 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: So now to be among the names of the Hall 203 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: of Fame inductees is just an honor. Growing up on 204 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: the West Coast, I didn't know a lot about Wake 205 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Forest other than like Tim Duncan and Chris Paul and 206 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: of course mister Palmer. 207 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: To now be etched in history is really special. 208 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: And during my speech at the induction, I spoke about 209 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: how I wasn't always the best golfer and I really 210 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: had to work my way up, and so to be 211 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: able to work my way through Wake improve my game, 212 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: work my way through the team and up in the 213 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: rankings really meant a lot to me. 214 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: To be able to accomplish that. 215 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: What made you commit to that school. 216 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: Honestly, growing up in Arizona, I just was sick and 217 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: tired of being there, like it it is boring. So 218 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: I was like, I want to just try somewhere new. 219 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: In North Carolina was very new. 220 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: It was a culture shock, but I always tell people 221 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: it was the best thing that ever happened to me, 222 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: especially golf wise. 223 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: I was forced to. 224 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: Learn how to live on my own away from my family, 225 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: play in weather that is not just perfect at all times, 226 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: and play different golf courses too, which was such a test. 227 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: So I always say it was the best thing for 228 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: my career and just for me, kind of like growing 229 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: up and learning again on that path of trying to 230 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: become professional. 231 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: Clearly, you know, you have a really big name in 232 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: your family what's the last name? And a lot of 233 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: attention was on you throughout your career, college golf, professional golf. 234 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: What was that like for you building a name for yourself? 235 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: It was difficult, you know. 236 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Growing up I loved watching Tiger play, and he was 237 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: the biggest inspiration for me to become professional golfer or 238 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: even a play golf in general. 239 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: So I somewhat I'm a fan and I love watching 240 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: him play. 241 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: But then coming up and being a Woods and having 242 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: the extra attention or the expectations whatever that might be 243 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: was difficult. I mean, even to this day, I am 244 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: still referred to as his niece, which is totally fine because. 245 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 3: I get it. 246 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: But when you are young and trying to not only 247 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: prove yourself to the world, but prove yourself to yourself, yes, 248 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: it can be difficult when you're constantly reminded of the 249 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: other person rather than yourself and what you've accomplished. So 250 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: I really had to learn how to have that self love, 251 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: that self worth of I worked to get here. I 252 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: deserve to be here despite what my name is, and 253 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: I think it made me a stronger person and a 254 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: stronger player of just believing and who I am. But 255 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: it definitely was difficult, and I had to just embrace 256 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: it because it's not something that was ever going. 257 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: To leave right absolutely, like I was thinking about actually 258 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: on the drive here, and I just feel very empathetic 259 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: to what that feeling and pressure could be like to 260 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: have someone in your life that's essentially setting the bar 261 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: right and the pressures that you could face. And I 262 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: feel like you've done it with so much grace, and 263 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: I think from the outside looking in, I don't think 264 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: you could really tell that it may have been difficult 265 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: or that you know, it was a lot of pressure. 266 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: So I think you did a phenomenal job, like making 267 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: a name for yourself. You know, thank you. 268 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I mean, I try to do what 269 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: I could. 270 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I love golf for my own reasons, and 271 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: I never wanted to be the next Tiger Woods, sure, 272 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: but you know, I just grew up wanting to see 273 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: how far I can take it, and I love that challenge. 274 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: And to at least have the representation of Woods on 275 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: the women's side means a lot to me. And to 276 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: be a woman of color in golf and kind of 277 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: have that representation again is just really powerful. So I 278 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: try to do what I could to give back to 279 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: the game, and you know, the Woods name definitely helps 280 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: elevate whatever I do, which I think is definitely a privilege. 281 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, has Tiger given you any advice about your career 282 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: and of sell you mind sharing, I. 283 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: Would say the biggest thing is he always has just 284 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: said to have fun. And I think the biggest advice 285 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: I've ever had from him is just me watching what 286 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: he does fair and whether it be on TV or 287 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: the few times I've been able to kind of watch 288 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: him practice in person. I've always said he's the hardest 289 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: working person I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, in 290 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: every aspect, and he's so intelligent, he's so hard working, 291 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: he's just so intense that that is definitely what I've 292 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: learned most from him is just by observing where he 293 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: came from and how far he's taken it, what he's 294 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: gone through. 295 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: It's just really really inspirational. Yeah. 296 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you went on to play professionally, like basically 297 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: a decade right playing pro h LT, which is a 298 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: ladiess European Tour LPGA. What is your favorite memory of 299 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: playing on tour? 300 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: My favorite memories are definitely playing on European Tour. 301 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: Really Okay, why is that? 302 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: It just was such a new experience for me. 303 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't anything I had expected myself to do, 304 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's what makes it really special too. 305 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, I graduated from WIG and you know, in 306 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: our minds we always think, Okay, I'm gonna go boom 307 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: boom boom, this is how I get on tour. Sure, 308 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: So I went to Q school, didn't make it through 309 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even get EPSTON Tour status. I didn't make 310 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the cut at first stage. Yeah, so I was confused, 311 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: like where do I go from here? And so my 312 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: agent suggested, you know, European Tour is an option, and 313 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the thought of going to Morocco and for the qualifiers 314 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: and potentially playing in Europe. And you know, I was 315 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: twenty one, fresh out of college. I had never really 316 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: traveled like that before. All of this was so new 317 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: to me, so you know, it was a huge leap. 318 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: It felt like to go over there and just kind 319 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: of get this experience of the unknown. But it was 320 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: so fun. The girls there were amazing. Every country you 321 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: go to you learn so much about the culture. Every 322 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: course is so different. It was the best thing for 323 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: my professional career. I then played. I always had status, 324 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: but I played their full time for like I don't know, 325 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: two or three years, and then I came back and 326 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: I was able to earn LPGA Tour status. 327 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: But it was just the best learning experience. 328 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: So, talking about professional golf, what's something that you wish 329 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: that maybe like the audience or outside voices understood more about, 330 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: especially women's professional golf. 331 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot and I think the biggest thing that 332 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: I've always tried to advocate for women's golf is obviously 333 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: how talented we are, and you. 334 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: Hear it all the time, but you really don't. 335 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I feel like you don't understand it till you see it, 336 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: whether it be the talent or how personal the players are, 337 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: or how close you can get to actually enjoying the 338 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: golf while you're out watching an LPGA event. It's such 339 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: a different experience than going to maybe a PGA Tour 340 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: event or a men's event. So I always try to 341 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: tell people how friendly the women's game is and how 342 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: welcoming it is. I always tried to make it a 343 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: point when I was playing to interact with fans or 344 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: meet with the juniors and interact with them, because I 345 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: do remember being the girl out there behind the ropes 346 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: and trying to get an autograph or getting that golf ball, 347 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: and it's the best feeling in the world. But I 348 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: feel like in the women's game, you definitely get that 349 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: experience a lot more. 350 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: And then obviously the. 351 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: Talent is just amazing, and you see these girls make 352 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: it look so easy. My husband's played in a couple 353 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: LPGA pro ams and he still can't believe how good 354 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: the girls are. I mean, he hits it like three 355 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: point fifty, He hits it far, and these girls are 356 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: kicking his butt and he can't believe how easy they're 357 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: making it look. And I just think it's a testament 358 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: to how deep the talent is, right, how just amazing 359 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: they are. 360 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 361 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a huge advocate for the women's game, 362 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: and I may be butchering this stat but I believe that, 363 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: Like they said that on the LPGA Tour, say, like 364 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: a woman's six iron and green and regulation average is 365 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: comparable to like the man's nine iron, and it's something 366 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: of that nature. And it's like the distances are actually 367 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: so far in correlation for women compared to men, Like 368 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: they have a lot more shorter irons and compared to women. 369 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: And I'm like, you guys don't realize how hard it 370 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: is to get a hybrid next to the pin, a 371 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: five iron next to the pin. Those are like the 372 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: clubs that I hate when you're hitting nine irons and 373 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: wedges all day. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you can stick 374 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: a wedge, spin it back all day, but like, yeah, 375 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: ask me to hit a three wood next to the 376 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: pin on like an unreasonably long Part four. Like you 377 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: guys don't understand how hard that is. If you ask 378 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: the men to do it, you'll be seeing a lot 379 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: more short game and a lot more wild shot. 380 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: And I've always told people too, I mean, when you 381 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: see the men's game, it definitely does play shorter. Yeah, 382 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: almost every round they have a reachable part five or 383 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: a reachable part four. And on the women's side, I've 384 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: always said so rare. Maybe if you are one of 385 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: the longer hitters, yes you have maybe a reachable part five, 386 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: but it was so rare when you were playing, when 387 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I was playing on tour right to truly have those 388 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: whole where you can be aggressive and go for it 389 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: or to take advantage of hitting on into or whatever 390 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: the case may be. 391 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll work on that. We can talk about 392 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: that all day. 393 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask. 394 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: Your opinion on the LPGA as an organization. I feel 395 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: like a lot has grown. What do you feel like 396 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: they're doing right and what do you feel like maybe 397 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 2: like maybe we can bring a little more attention to this. 398 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: There's been so many changes in the LPGA, and it's 399 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: been exciting for me the last couple of years. I've 400 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: been on the board for LPGA Foundation, which is behind 401 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: the scenes of their charities and girls programs, but it's 402 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: definitely give me an inside look of what the LPGA 403 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: is doing and how awesome you know they're being able 404 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: to provide all these programs for girls and amateurs. So 405 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that. I grew up in the LPGA 406 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: Girl's Golf program. 407 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: I started when I was like five or six years old. 408 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: I was the very first original. 409 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Sandy Lebow started it in Scottsdale, Arizona, and my coach 410 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: was her husband, So I got started in that program 411 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: and to be able to see it grow into what 412 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: it is today. I think the LPGA has done so 413 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: much in giving back to the game and also the communities. 414 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: Their reach is not just within the US, but also 415 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: so global, and I think that's been so cool to see. 416 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: And you're seeing a lot of girls Golf alumni now 417 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: on tour, which I think goes to show how they 418 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: are able to give back to the game and also 419 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: support them throughout their careers. 420 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: So I think the LPGA is doing such a good 421 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: job of that. 422 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: Obviously, playing on tour has gotten so much better in 423 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: terms of money, yeah, yeah, and supports growing. We love 424 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: golf courses that we play are just amazing. So I 425 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: think that's been really great in terms of what they 426 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: can do better. 427 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: Jeez, that's a tough question. 428 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean every organization can use some improvement, right 429 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: Like look at the PGA tour. What's happening, you know? Yeah? 430 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: And I love if the LPG is elevating their players more. 431 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: I think that's all They issue more stories. There's so 432 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: many great personalities. I know they've invested in trying to 433 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: elevate their players individually in showcasing those stories, and I 434 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: think that's been really great, just to bring more eyes 435 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: on individual players like you see Charlie. 436 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: Hole out there, you see Lydia, you see. 437 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: All these personalities that are just so unique and so 438 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: special that a lot of the men are able to 439 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: showcase a bit more, like even with the Netflix show 440 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: like hellay our household names, and it makes a big 441 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: difference when it comes to them trying to sell the 442 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: tour or sell sponsorships to have that connection with fans 443 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: and players. 444 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: So I think if they can continue to do that more, 445 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: it would definitely help. I love that. 446 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: I completely agree. So as we know right now, there 447 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: is at this moment. Maybe when the pod comes out 448 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: will know there is no commissioner at this moment. If 449 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: you were the commissioner, what is something that you would instill, 450 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: no rules, no restrictions on money attached. What is some 451 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: thing that you would instill right now to help continue 452 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: to support the girls. 453 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm thinking any way to help make the travel 454 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: easier for the girls, whether that's such a good point, 455 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: something they're able to provide wellness wise, or even hotel sponsorship. 456 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: That's really hard for players, whether you're at the top 457 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: or you're just trying to keep your car like it 458 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: gets expensive. And I always say the lifestyle of playing 459 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: on tour is one of the most difficult things of 460 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: traveling day in and day out, all around to all 461 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: ye cross timelines and timelines, yeah, time zone, cross time 462 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: zones and just globally. So if there was something that 463 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: the tour could do in order to support them a 464 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: little bit better travel wise, I think that would be 465 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: really good. 466 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. When you make it onto 467 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: the PGA Tour, new players are essentially loaned nearly half 468 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: a million dollars to go and support themselves, and the 469 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: girls are given zero and I just can't. I mean, 470 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: but there's so many events now where like Miszoo Ho 471 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: and like even the Asia Swing where like everything has 472 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: covered and like the girls are like royalty, So we 473 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: just need to get all the events to be. 474 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Like yeah, right, And even the stipends that they've been 475 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: able to provide a few miss they've been able to 476 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: provide stipends because I mean when people think of professional 477 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: golf and they see the PGA Tour, they see the 478 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: private jets and all these glamorous life things different, it's 479 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: assumed that the women you know, have that as well, 480 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: and it's just not the case. And so it's definitely 481 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: a reality check. I think even as a player to 482 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: come in and you're like, wait, you I have to 483 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: pay for this whole list of. 484 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: Things, and how do I get a sponsor? 485 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: You know, sponsorships are hard to come by as well, 486 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: so definitely a little bit more difficult on the women's side. 487 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 2: So can you break that down. Let's say take us 488 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: back to when you were playing one week, what are 489 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: expenses like, what are you covering for yourself and your team? 490 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you you basically cover everything so flight you 491 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: don't have to pay for your caddy swipe, but you 492 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: have to pay for your caddies weekly fee in addition 493 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: to whatever percentage if you make the cut. 494 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: When I was. 495 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: Playing, I think caddy was anywhere between twelve hundred and 496 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred or one week for one week. Okay, So 497 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: unless you do a host family, which a lot of 498 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: players do, so you can kind of cut that expense, food, 499 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: rental car. They do sometimes have like courtesy cars that 500 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: you could use, but it's not as flexible, I guess. 501 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: So it definitely maybe about five grand I usually budgeted 502 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: for per week. 503 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: That's entry feet do we say entry feet? 504 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 505 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: And entry fee? 506 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to pay for the tournaments. Two guys 507 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: don't forget, So it definitely adds up. 508 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: And you're thinking, you're playing twenty five thirty events, right, 509 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: it gets expensive. 510 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: Right, right? 511 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: So we had to make more than just the cut 512 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: to survive, right, Yes? 513 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: Crazy? 514 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: Okay? 515 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: So I wanted to transition into motherhood to beautiful children. 516 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: And so what was that transition like from you taking 517 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: kind of like a step aside from professional golf and 518 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: becoming a mother. 519 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: It was very different. I played golf my whole life, 520 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: and I always wanted to be a mom. I always 521 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: knew I wanted to be a mom, and we had 522 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: our son in twenty twenty two. I competed up until 523 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: I think I was like five months pregnant, but nobody 524 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: knew I was pregnant at the time, and then I 525 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: haven't competed since we had our son. 526 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: And I always knew I didn't want to play professional 527 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: golf and be a mom. I didn't want to travel 528 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: and have my kids on the road. 529 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: And at the time when we had our son, my 530 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: husband was still playing baseball, Okay, so we were trying 531 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: to be with him as much as we could and 532 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: travel as well, So it was hard to think about 533 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: doing golf and that at the same time with having 534 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: a family. But definitely taking a step aside from professional 535 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: golf was refreshing. 536 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: Okay, I like it. 537 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: I think I was ready, yeah, And it just was 538 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: nice to see a different side of life, right. 539 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: I think as a professional golfer you get so just self. 540 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 3: You're always just. 541 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: Focused on self, right, And it was nice to have 542 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: something to take my focus off of just me, me, 543 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: me and think about this beautiful baby and my husband 544 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: and our family. 545 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: So it was definitely a breath of fresh air. 546 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: Now, speaking of your daughter, how is your baby girl 547 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: doing good? 548 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: She's good? My mind sharing so well. 549 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 550 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 3: So Maya has had like not the toughest journey, but 551 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: it's been difficult and it has not been anything that 552 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: we ever expected and nothing that I ever heard people 553 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: talking about. 554 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: I didn't either until I saw your poems. 555 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: And so if people, you know, want more information. 556 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: Our daughter was born like full term, totally fine, but 557 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: she had a lot of feeding difficulties. She had really 558 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: bad acid reflux where she was throwing up NonStop, and 559 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: she wouldn't take a bottle, pacifier or nothing, and she 560 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't have long enough feats, and so she wasn't gaining weight. 561 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: So she was submitted admitted to the hospital's failure to thrive, 562 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: which was the absolute worst feeling ever as a mom, 563 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: because you feel like you failed as well. And I 564 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: still didn't know what was happening. She's throwing up, not 565 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: gaining weight, and I literally can't do anything. So We've 566 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: did all the tests possible, all of the things, and 567 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: she ended up being a tube fed baby. She still 568 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: is tube fed through a gtube, but she's not throwing up. 569 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: Anymore, which is great good and she also had like 570 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: a breathing condition she had to have a surgery on, 571 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: which was at the end of the day not allowing 572 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: her to feed, which we didn't know. But she's doing better, 573 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 3: which is great. 574 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: It's honestly such a long story, so I don't know 575 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: how to cut it down. But it's just been such 576 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: a journey of just appreciation and gratitude for all of 577 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: the little things, because you hear about women having babies 578 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: and babies growing up all the time, but there are 579 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: so many things that can go wrong, or so many 580 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: health conditions that could happen, and I'm just so grateful 581 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: that although she's still gtube fed, she is healthy and 582 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: she is happy and thriving, and it's just the best 583 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: feeling in the world because you appreciate all of the 584 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: little moments and all the little things right after going 585 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: through diffil gold times. 586 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm so happy that she is growing stronger every 587 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: single day. I'm sure like any stressful moment you had 588 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: in your professional golf career is like f that, like 589 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 2: this is my everything, Like your child now is your life? 590 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: Right? 591 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it just gives you perspective. I mean, 592 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: when we were going through that with mya. It was 593 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: probably like eight months of it where wow, literally every 594 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: day we couldn't leave the house because she would throw 595 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: up fifteen to twenty times a day. 596 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: I couldn't take her anywhere. 597 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: And it just gives you perspective of just what is important. 598 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: And I think again just having kids in general, of 599 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: being able to step back and look at the big 600 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: picture of what is important in life. And I do 601 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: love golf and I love to compete, right, but in 602 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: this stage of my life, it's just so nice to 603 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: be able to have these moments with my kids and 604 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: to raise them and to be there for all the 605 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: little moments and for when they need me. 606 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: So you mentioned how you love competing. Is there any 607 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: shot that we will see Seyanne Woods compete again? Qualifier anything? 608 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I think so. 609 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I missed the competition and it's so 610 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: hard to replicate. 611 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: I love competing. 612 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: I've always been a competitive person in everything that I do, 613 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: and I want to be able to have my kids 614 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: see me play one day. 615 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: So I would say maybe in the next couple of 616 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: years i'd play. 617 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: I would love to qualify for the US Open again 618 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: and play in that and have you know our kids 619 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: following us along? 620 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: Maybe my husband can, Caddie, I'll put them to work. 621 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, speaking of husband, So Chyanne's husband 622 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: is Aaron Hicks and he is a professional baseball player. 623 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: And I actually played golf with him, oh pre pandemic 624 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: and the media day, yes, every era, and I was 625 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: actually so surprised at how good at golf he was, 626 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: especially for a baseball player, because typically baseball proder just 627 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: like slice the shit out of it, and he was 628 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: like striping it. And I wanted to hear how you 629 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: two met. I know it was kind of something similar 630 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: to what we're doing now, but I'm gonna let you 631 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: tell the story. 632 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Erin and I have been married for three 633 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: years now, and we met during the pandemic or just 634 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: before the endemic. I used to have a podcast with 635 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: Doug Smith called Bertie's not Bs, and we were record 636 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona, and Aaron and Doug were friends, and 637 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: so Doug invited him on the podcast and we did 638 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: just a little episode like just getting to know Aaron 639 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: and his relationship with golf, and so it was awesome 640 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: just to get to know him a little bit and 641 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: that was my first time meeting him. During the pandemic, 642 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: both of our seasons got shut down, so I was, 643 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: I think in Florida. I was at the Players actually 644 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: at the time, and so during the pandemic when we 645 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: were both home, we just started playing golf together and 646 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of how it just sparked this friendship. 647 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: And then we got to know each other more. It 648 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: was like, he's kind of cool. Yeah, I like him, 649 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: and so that's kind of where it all started. 650 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: I love that. So it wasn't like instance sparks in 651 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: the podcast room. It was more just like a slow 652 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: burn hang out, play a lot of golf together, and 653 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: then you're like, okay. 654 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's funny. Yeah. 655 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I always said I would never 656 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: date a golfer, and technically he's not a golfer, right, 657 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: but he plays a lot of golf, right, And I 658 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: actually love it because we can appreciate the same love 659 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: of golf and we can enjoy it with our families 660 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: now too. And I think that the pandemic really gave 661 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: us a lot of quality time that we never would 662 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: have had otherwise, especially him being a baseball player. 663 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: I was playing golf full time. 664 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: Our worlds were literally like that, just like colliding and 665 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: just would never have crosspaths. 666 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: So I'm grateful for, you know, the time that we 667 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: were able to have. 668 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: And then, like you said, slow burn of just yeah, 669 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, we fell in love and basically through the 670 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: game of golf. 671 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: Right, So in this case, it was actually a turn 672 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: on that he was that he plays golf. Usually, I 673 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: feel like for golfers, it's like no turn off. Please 674 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: don't please, don't love golf too much, don't want to 675 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: be on the course. So have you taught him much 676 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: and like kind of helped him out with this game. 677 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm trying to work on a short game, okay. Yeah, 678 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: he's definitely a. 679 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: Power player, and he loves his sixty degree wedge, yeah, 680 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: which a lot of people do. And I'm trying to 681 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: just teach him about bump and run, yeah, and different 682 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: shots that he can hit in different clubs that he 683 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: has other than his love wedge. 684 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 685 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: So definitely trying to balance out his game a little bit. 686 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I love that now your little boy he plays 687 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: both baseball and golf. Yeah, if you could choose which 688 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: We're not going to force our kids. You know into anything, 689 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: but if you could control it, you so you would 690 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: want him to play baseball. 691 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: I think baseball, Aaron says, golf, So we kind of 692 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: see what happens there. 693 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: But Cameron will be three next month. 694 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: So he is just full toddler boy, loving absolutely every 695 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: sport possible, but definitely attached to a club and a 696 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: bat at all times. 697 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: It's so cute. 698 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: And the thing that frustrates me most is that now 699 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: that I'm post LPGA Tour career right he mainly sees 700 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: his dad playing golf and he thinks Dad is the 701 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: golfer and I think related is dad. So that's why 702 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I need to get back out and show 703 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: him who. 704 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: The real golfer is in the house. 705 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: Do you play much anymore? 706 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: Not as much as I want to. 707 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: Okay, No, I'm finally starting to get back out and 708 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: hit balls and like playing a couple of things here 709 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: and there. 710 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: But I'm trying to get back out more. So. 711 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: One thing that I do love about, like everything that 712 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: I've seen you shares that you're huge about making golf 713 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: more accessible and so how do you feel like golf 714 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: is heading right now? Do you feel like we're heading 715 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: in the right direction, making more Absolutely. 716 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been so exciting to see how far golf 717 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: has come, honestly, just since the pandemic. 718 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: In the latch five years. 719 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: Sure, I remember when I was playing, that was always 720 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: something I advocated, was access to golf, getting everybody out there, 721 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: showing them that golf is for them. You don't have 722 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: to be a country club button up player. Sure, places 723 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: like Top Golf have really opened up the world to 724 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: what golf can be and that it can be fun, 725 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: it can be for everybody. So I love where golf 726 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: is headed. And even just the influencer world of making 727 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: golf relatable and YouTube golf, I think is so great 728 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: for the game. 729 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 3: What is it the good good guys? 730 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I saw them come out to Scottsdale and 731 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: all the people that came out to the event, and 732 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: they're not going first fans, you know, these are just 733 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: like your everyday people, and I think that's great for 734 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: the game of golf. So it's exciting, and I am 735 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: honestly mind blown with how far it's come in like 736 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: five years. 737 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: But I think it's great for the game. Absolutely. 738 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: What do you think golf maybe needs more of to 739 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: continue that trajectory. 740 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: I think just continued support of that everyday person who 741 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: wants to get into golf. For sure, you know, it's 742 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: nice to have the facilities like top Golf or like 743 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: the YouTube people that you can watch. But I think 744 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: still maybe with instruction wise, of making golf more accessible 745 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: or a little bit more affordable is a big thing, 746 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: because it's one thing to go out and like, okay, 747 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: get a club and hit some balls. But it takes 748 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 1: a little bit of teaching to really understand and know 749 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: how to swing the club. So maybe just a little 750 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: bit more support in programs to kind of get this 751 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: new fan base able to learn how to play golf. 752 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: We just need a teaching course from Cheyenne Woods, you know, 753 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: or you know we do have, or we could do 754 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: it together. Yeah, one or the other. 755 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: Go. 756 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: So switching gears a little bit because this was really 757 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: big news to the golf world a few weeks ago. 758 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: We understand that you lost your grandmother could till the 759 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: woods and I just wanted to do a check in 760 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: and how's the family, how are you? 761 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really sad to see that, honestly a 762 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: sudden yeah, and we had just seen her, you know, 763 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: at TGL and just beaming with pride, which I think, 764 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: honestly looking back, is the best thing to be able 765 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: to have her at those moments for Tiger to support. 766 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get to spend as much time 767 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: with Tita as I did with my grandfather, but she 768 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: was just so special and she this probably sounds silly, 769 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: but she's why. 770 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: I love Tihood, Oh my god. But of course obsessed 771 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: with Tai food because I remember growing up, you know, 772 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: she would cook ty food. Yea, she would show us 773 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: how to cook Tay food. 774 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: So it definitely is so sad, but I'm so grateful 775 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: that she was able to have those special moments with 776 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: Tiger and Charlie and watch them at TGL, and she 777 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: definitely won't be missed. 778 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: You know, I actually met her when I was I 779 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: think like twelve years old. It was for a TGR 780 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: Foundation event and I somehow got into it through like 781 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: SEPGA or one of those millions of golf organizations, and 782 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: funny enough, I didn't really I was sitting next to 783 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: your grandmother and I was just waiting for my mom 784 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: at the restroom, and we were in the facility and 785 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 2: she was like eating like it looked like country club snacks. 786 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: And she looks at me and she just goes and 787 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: she like gestures like do I want it? You know, 788 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and I grabbed a pretzel. Do you 789 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: play golf? 790 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: I said yes? 791 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: And she said are you here for the clinic? I 792 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 2: said yes, and she goes practice hard. 793 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 3: Oh I will yeah, And I thought it was like yes, And. 794 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Then my dad was like, do you know who that was? 795 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, I mean yeah, but no, 796 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: I love that story and we love that you loved 797 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: tie food of course. Yes, okay, switching gears back to 798 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: like a little more of a lighter note. I saw 799 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: that you recently launched a show on Golf Pass, correct, 800 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 2: Tita Dreams. Can you tell everybody about it? 801 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: It's really exciting, honestly, So, Tita dream is on Golf 802 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: Pass Dreaming right now. 803 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: We have two episodes out. 804 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: You love it, and the basis of the show is 805 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: showcasing professional golfers who are associated with foundations and the 806 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: work that they do to give back to their two 807 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: into the community. We all know golf is so philanthropic, 808 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: but we don't always get to see behind the scenes 809 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: of how these professional golfers are using their platforms to 810 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: give back. When I was playing, it was always a 811 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: big part of my traveling and my career of trying 812 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: to give back to the communities or connect with the 813 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: local girls. So to be able to see what these 814 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: golfers are, you know, obviously not only just playing at 815 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: the highest level possible, but then giving so much back 816 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: to their communities and giving back to their foundations. So 817 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: we've focused on Ryan Palmer and not a big a 818 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: so far this year, and it's just been really special 819 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: to be a part of and see how golf cannot 820 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: only change obviously the golfers' lives and they're playing and 821 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: doing these glamorous things, but changing the lives of kids 822 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: and people within their communities. 823 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: So it's on golf Fast now if people want to 824 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: check it out. 825 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: I think the episode is free to stream right now 826 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: if you want to see. And we're going to film 827 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: a bit more this season as well. 828 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: Okay, we will be on the lookout for sure. We'll 829 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: just drop the link you guys, don't worry. And so 830 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: what's next for Cheyenne Woods in general? I know that 831 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: I feel like you do a lot more media now 832 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: and traveling to tournaments and whatnot. You have the next stop? 833 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely more filming with Golf Bass and focusing on 834 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: that show and then maybe a couple of other fun 835 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: things in the golf world. Talking a little bit about 836 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: podcast as well. 837 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: So I love it. 838 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 3: It could be potentially coming up soon. 839 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: Would you be bringing it back or would you just 840 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: be like starting a. 841 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: Brand starting you Yeah, not BS was so fun to 842 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: do with that and we learned so much, but that 843 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: is rip. Yeah, but yeah, Doug and I are so 844 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: really close, actually, that's what he was telling me. 845 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 846 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 847 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: If you guys don't know who Doug is, he is 848 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: now like a commentator on Golf Channel. I was actually 849 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: just with him a few days ago and he was 850 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: commentating me playing, which was kind of weird and kind 851 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: of wild, and he was always telling me, He's like, 852 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: you should get shy on the pod. I'm like, bro, 853 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 2: help me out, due, And so I love that you 854 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: guys are close. 855 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's funny because he lives like twenty minutes 856 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: from us and his son is about the same age 857 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: as ours, so perfect. 858 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: My sons are best friends. And I think the next 859 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: couple of years are going to be like golf, Rive 860 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 3: slash best Friends. So stay tuned. 861 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: We love a good story. We love it all right. 862 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: So we are winding down now, but we have to 863 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: end with a fun little game. 864 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: All right. 865 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: Do you know the game f kill Mary? 866 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 4: Yeah? 867 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: Okay, it's that's a little dramatic, but. 868 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: Words. 869 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called travel cut like miss the Cut Mary. Okay, okay, 870 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 2: those are your three options. These are amongst your LPGA peers. Yes, yes, okay, 871 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: are you ready? 872 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: I think so? 873 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Lexi Thompson, Danielle Kang, Brooke Henderson. 874 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: My gosh, wait, this is the kind of game that 875 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: it is. 876 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: No hard feelings. 877 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna say Travel Danielle Kang. Okay, she 878 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: is so fun and I always loved playing with her. 879 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: You have Handbrooke. 880 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut Lexi because she is technically partially retired, 881 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: that is true, so she kind of cut herself, right, yeah, 882 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: at a good point, and then I would marry Brook. 883 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: I love playing with Brooke and her sister. 884 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: I love that. 885 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 3: And her game is just amazing. 886 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: It is amazing. Yeah, and I feel like her driver 887 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: just looks so long for her, but she crushes it 888 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: every time. 889 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 3: She makes it look so easy. 890 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay, last one, Michelle Wee West, Brittany Lindscombe, Stacy Lewis. 891 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 3: I think I would travel again with Michelle. 892 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know she sure I has all the good 893 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: food recommendations, She's got the babies that we could do 894 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: little play dates again. Stacy, I think I would marry Stacey. Wow, 895 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: she's I mean a legend. Yeah, she's an icon in 896 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: the game. And then Brittany. This is really brutal. I 897 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: would I guess I'd have to cut Brittany. 898 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: No hard feelings, guys, It's just the game. There is 899 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: no one like send some messages. Yeah, no offense. I 900 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: love it. That is the end of the game. And 901 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: final question, where can listeners follow you and see everything 902 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: that's going on. 903 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at Cheyenne Underscore Woods and Twitter well 904 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: but not so much active on there, but Instagram for sure. 905 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: Stay updated again on the golf Past show for sure. 906 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: Just all of our family fun that we do. 907 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Party with Tasha Allen is an Iheartwoman's 908 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 2: sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports Entertainment. I'm 909 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: your host, Tisha Allen. Christina Everett is our executive producer 910 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: and Jennifer Bassett is our producer. 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