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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 3: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. That'shop Well,

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Speaker 3: how about this? We made it to four hundred episodes.

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Speaker 3: Not much of a betting man, incidentally, but I would

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Speaker 3: to episode four hundred of the Antacan Florian Podcast. It

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Speaker 3: is Monday, April third. The year is twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I remember when we began this show in Los Angeles, TJ.

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Speaker 3: DeSantis at the Helm eight years ago April of twenty

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Speaker 3: fifteen and still going, kid, We're still fucking.

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Speaker 5: Going absolutely, man, Listen, I'm a believer. I'm an optimist.

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Speaker 3: We are so appreciative of this listenership that has evolved

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Speaker 3: And we really appreciate the support because I'd imagine there

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna question a hole this fucking shows.

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Speaker 3: He is more like it, front and center. Ray Longo

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Speaker 1: Oh man, my gratitude is towards you guys. But man,

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Speaker 1: it seems like yesterday. No, Kenny, that's crazy, what everything

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Speaker 1: part of the game. It's just you know, I know

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Speaker 1: it's a cliche, but it was a great fight.

436
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 3: So those latter two fights, the wins are you like

437
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 3: watching on your cell phone, I mean take us behind

438
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Speaker 3: the store.

439
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 1: So why he got because to let me fought the

440
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Speaker 1: same night as the kid, but there was a time difference,

441
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Speaker 1: so I got to see his whole fight. And then

442
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: I was on the plane for Dylan's fight, but I

443
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: was getting Texas, and then I just went back and

444
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: watched the highlights, so I didn't even see. They were

445
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 1: both first round finishes, so I didn't see. I saw

446
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: at the Lemmies whole fight, and I didn't see I

447
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 1: saw the highlights of Dila Montello's fight.

448
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 3: So all right, so I have some stuff for you

449
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 3: on UFC two eighty seven, and then Ken Flill obviously

450
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 3: chime in at any time. Eighteen year old Raul Rosace

451
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,479
Speaker 3: Junior is fighting for the second time this weekend at

452
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Speaker 3: UFC two eighty seven. Now, we've had eighteen year olds

453
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 3: in the UFC before, a handful of them. Dan los

454
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 3: On comes to mind, but I don't know Kenny and

455
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 3: Ray that we've had an eighteen year old come in

456
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 3: and potentially compete twice before birthday number nineteen and win

457
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: both of those fights. He's favored to be Christian Rodriguez

458
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 3: this weekend. A lot of the MMA world had their

459
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 3: minds effectively blown when he disposed of Jay Perron and

460
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: his UFC debut. I mean, what are your thoughts on

461
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 3: this eighteen year old now kicking off the pay per

462
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Speaker 3: view main card as the UFC returns to Miami for

463
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Speaker 3: the first twenty years.

464
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Speaker 1: I mean, for a young kid, you know, as long

465
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Speaker 1: as he doesn't buy into the you know, main card stuff,

466
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: and you know he's already got the UFC, Jit is out,

467
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: he's got two fights. I say he wins that fight.

468
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: I think I think this kid beat one of my

469
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: guys a couple of years ago, so I think rosis

470
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 1: is probably going to win this fight if it's the

471
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: right guy I'm thinking about. But what a great spot

472
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: to being as a young kid, you know, starting off

473
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Speaker 1: of paid a view card with that, you know, with

474
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: the headline is that that that's on that card is crazy.

475
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: So good for him, man. I hope he enjoys it.

476
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: I hope he takes it in the right way. He

477
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: doesn't a lot of affect his performance and he'll be fine.

478
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's impressive, man. You know, you just don't see

479
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 5: it a whole lot at eighteen year old in the UFC.

480
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 5: I think he's kind of part of this newer generation though,

481
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 5: where he really came up training in the sport for

482
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Speaker 5: much longer than some of the other guys that we've seen,

483
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Speaker 5: so I think he's more better suited to kind of

484
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: do well here, and I think he's taking the right fights.

485
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Speaker 5: Although I think Christian Rodriguez is pretty good, you know,

486
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 5: I do think these are good fights for him and

487
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 5: the right kind of fights for him. Mentally tough, you know,

488
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 5: he's got that. As far as maturity, I think he's

489
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Speaker 5: got that as well as far as you know, how

490
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Speaker 5: he trains, how professional he is.

491
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Speaker 2: So yeah, curious to see how he does.

492
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Speaker 1: Dan J. Perrin was a great test man. I think

493
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Speaker 1: he's a great kid man. That's a I think that

494
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: was a great, great win for him, so, you know.

495
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: And to Kenny's point, Raoul Rosas is minus two twenty five,

496
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: so it's not as though he is some massive betting

497
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 3: favorite this weekend. There's a lot of people, especially in

498
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: that Midwestern pocket, that think very highly of Christian Rodriguez.

499
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: All right, Kenny's gonna have to save a lot of

500
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 3: his bullets on Alex Padata and is a lot of

501
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 3: soignia for later in the week You don't, though, So

502
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about this main event

503
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: because when these two fought last year with a Madison

504
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: Square Garden backdrop, I don't know if it was reflective

505
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 3: in the pay per view numbers, but I just cannot

506
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: remember fan excitement on that level, right. I just think

507
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: fans were so excited given the kickboxing history to see

508
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: these guys at MMA, and now given the way that

509
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: fight played out with a Miami backdrop. Now, I just

510
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: think it's the perfect setting for this rematch. And I

511
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 3: want to know what you think about all of that

512
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: and what you think ultimately is going to happen this

513
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: weekend at Miamiba Arena.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, man, this this is crazy stuff. But I

515
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: think look, I give Isusy all the credit in the world.

516
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: Man coming back. I mean, you know, he's lost three times.

517
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: The guy won an MMA twice in kickboxing. I think

518
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: he should have taken a little more time off, you know.

519
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: I think that's it's hard to come back that short

520
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: of time because it wasn't like he didn't take any

521
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: damage those This guy hits like a freight train. Man.

522
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: So I what was the fight four months ago? Maybe

523
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: something like that November. Yeah, so that's that's a pretty

524
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: quick turnaround. But you know, remember in the first fight

525
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: he had, you know, Alex rocked in the first round two.

526
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, it's like whoever gets there

527
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: first is gonna win. But I think it's it's hard.

528
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: We saw it with Ousmann and Leon Edwards. There's just

529
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: it's not easy to come back and win those fights.

530
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to go with Alex on this one.

531
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: And he certainly has the power. He looks like a

532
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: complete monster. He looks like he's you know, he's dialed

533
00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: in constantly, but he's a scary dude with Yeah, I mean,

534
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, it's just it's so risky to stand

535
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: up with him because his power is it's it's beyond

536
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: normal power, you know. I mean, that guy's got bricks

537
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: in his hand, and that's a that's a great quality

538
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: to have. Obviously, he's the wrestling look torrendous with the

539
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, So I think it's easier to try to

540
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: tighten that up in four months than it is to

541
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: get your chin back to normal. So I don't know,

542
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: it's a it's a risky move, but well, we'll see.

543
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: I think Alex takes it again. I think he's got

544
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: this guy's number, and sometimes that's all it takes. Ray.

545
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 5: How do you how do you break down the Gilbert

546
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 5: Burns and Jorge Masvidal fight?

547
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: Man, I'll tell you know again, I think, Look, Jai

548
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: was always one of my favorite fighters. I mean, he

549
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: just had a promotion right then, he just promoted Kickbox.

550
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: I see him on Rogan. It just doesn't look like

551
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: he's It looks like he's doing some pr He's got

552
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of things on his plate. You know, he's

553
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: made some money. You know, he's in a different spot

554
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: than he was when he was come up. I don't

555
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: know if he's as hungry as he was. I think,

556
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, I like again, he was always one of

557
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: my favorite fighters. I love the guy, the way the

558
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: guy fights. But I think Burns is going to take

559
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: this because it's just from the outside and I have

560
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: no idea. Just doesn't look like he's dialed in. And

561
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean that was a big promotion he put on.

562
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: Whether he was there, he wasn't there. That's a lot

563
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: of responsibility unless he's unless he delegated that whole thing

564
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: to somebody which he probably did, but it's still taxing

565
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: on your brain when you should be focused on just fighting.

566
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: And you know me, I like to just eight weeks,

567
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: leave everything out, don't go to the freaking hockey game. Yeah,

568
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: just concentrate on the fighting. Is plenty of time for

569
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: everything else. So it depends on where he's at. He's

570
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: he's a born natural fighter. He'll always have that going

571
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: for him. But you still got to put the work

572
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: in at this level, and I hope he did. But

573
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: the way I just feel like by looking at him,

574
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's got the court case with Kobe, right,

575
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: is that still a thing or yeah? That old? You know,

576
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: there's a million things going on. Mean, you can't have

577
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: your brain in fifteen different places. So not for a

578
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: technical reason, but for that reason, I'm going to pick

579
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: Burns on that fight.

580
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: And it's interesting to hear you inject that into the

581
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: conversation because I think Jorge will be dismissive of that

582
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: when we talk about that in the fighter meeting. But

583
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: you're right, it's energy expenditure. Even doing a social media

584
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: post for game bread boxing, Kenny and I can attest

585
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: to this. If you don't get it on the first

586
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 3: take right. All of a sudden, you're five takes in.

587
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's brought you by Draftking Sportsbook, and you're

588
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 3: bleeding out your lungs and everything else. You know, it's

589
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: a difficult thing to manage your energy during fight week,

590
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 3: never mind over those eight weeks. Now. He lives somewhat

591
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 3: of a rock star lifestyle, and seemingly in South Florida,

592
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: everybody wants a piece of him all the time. So

593
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: perhaps he's more conditioned to that than your average UFC athlete.

594
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 3: But I think you're wise to sort of bring that

595
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: into your handicap, you know.

596
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, he's a natural born fighter, but

597
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: that's a kid that I believe came from nothing, you

598
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then when you have something,

599
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: something has to change me. It's it's hard to keep

600
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: that focus in, that that desire and that you know,

601
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: just to get in the gym and grind it out

602
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: every day. And sometimes your brain is saying it, but

603
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: it's and you might believe it, but people around you

604
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: might go, you're not doing what you used to do,

605
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just you know, I've

606
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: dealt with a lot of fighters. I hear a lot

607
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: of things, and sometimes you just try to get them

608
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: through it and agree with him, but you know it's

609
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: it's just not the case. So I hope I'm wrong,

610
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: but I don't know. We'll see. I'm gonna pick Delbert

611
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: birds in that I think he I think he's he's

612
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: just been looking better and better, and you know, his confidences,

613
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, boosted all time. Oh even his fight with

614
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Comsat was a great fight. He supposed to even be

615
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: in that fight, you know what I mean, that was

616
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: a great fight. So I think he takes a lot

617
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: of that and moves forward, and you know, I think

618
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: he's catching Johe at the right time.

619
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: They're both dogs. I mean, if ever you were going

620
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: to get a desperate, urgent type effort out of Jorge Mosvidal,

621
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: you gotta think that it's going to be now against

622
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns, given all that potentially could be at stake.

623
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: We'll see. What are the odds on that fight?

624
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: John, You wouldn't even believe it. I mean, I've never

625
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 3: been so wrong in terms of my projection on a

626
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: fight in my life. I thought Gilbert would be minus

627
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: two twenty. I think he's almost minus five hundred. Now, Wow,

628
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: fifty percent, fifty two percent of the handle right now

629
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: on Draftking sportsbook has been on Jorge Mosfidal forty eight

630
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 3: percent of the money coming in on Gilbert Reino Burns.

631
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: But we've seen steady movement. People are still playing Gilbert

632
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: in parlays or otherwise at a massive price minus four

633
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: ninety right now.

634
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: Wow, that's man, that's crazy. Maybe maybe they know something

635
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: we just talked about. Something's up. That's a big that's

636
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: a huge spread. Man.

637
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Well, we've seen Gilbert's man handle guys, most recently Neil Mack.

638
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: We've also heard Gilbert verbally talk about getting back to

639
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: his Brazilian jiu jitsu roots and try to make this

640
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: almost a tournament style cut fight, Kenny, Right, if you're

641
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns, like I know Jorge Mosfeedel is a Brazilian

642
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu black belt, but I don't know that you

643
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: want to, you know, fuck around and find out on

644
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: the feet necessarily, even though you could beat him in

645
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: a kickboxing setting. Like, if you're Gilbert Burns, Kenny, don't

646
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: you maybe approach this as a tournament style flight? I

647
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: try to take the dude down and choke him out, Like,

648
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: what are we doing here.

649
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so. I think so.

650
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 5: I mean, that's going to be his easiest path to victory, right,

651
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: no question about it.

652
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: Can he do that?

653
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

654
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be interesting. I think that's

655
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: going to be the key for him for sure. All Right.

656
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: A couple other things I would like to get to

657
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: with the great Raymond, Peter Longo, Rob font Adrian Janez,

658
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: a huge bandam Way fight featured about on pay per

659
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: view coming up in Miami, and one that I know

660
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: you got the number one and number two guys in

661
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: the division. So sorry to talk about these guys ranked

662
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: below you, but I know you guys at least have

663
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: some history with Adrian yan As I believe in Guard

664
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: New York.

665
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so saying, great, great kid, I pick Yana's to

666
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: win that fight. Uh. I'm going to say, by TKO.

667
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Is that all you have for us on that? Before

668
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: I give you the one?

669
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: What is the betting line on that one?

670
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: You would you like to get predicted for us? Who

671
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: do you think is the betting favorite?

672
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Janis has to be the betting favorite.

673
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Adrian janes Is the betting favorite. Hasn't lost in

674
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: the UFC's minus one eighty one hundred and eighty dollars

675
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: pay one hundred bucks.

676
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: That's not bad. That's a that's a good bet. I

677
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: like Gianni's man. He's a great kid, young kid, really

678
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: great hands. Uh, he's I don't know, he's going to

679
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: be tough to stop. I'll be honest with you. You

680
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Fonts got a great jeb he's got great boxing. It's

681
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a It's definitely gonna be a great fight.

682
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that fight. It's just I

683
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: think youth over age is going to be the problem

684
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: with this one. That's just a young Yannas. If you

685
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: don't jump on him from the beginning. Uh, he just

686
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: gets better and better as the fight goes on. He

687
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: always seems to maybe you know, as he's getting to

688
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: read on you in the first round, take some punishment,

689
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: but man, when he comes back, he's he's got great

690
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: killer instinct. He's precise with his punching. He's not letting

691
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: you off the hook.

692
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: So the countdown is on for al Jamaine Sterling. We

693
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: got about four or five weeks. Henry Sahudo the Prudential Center,

694
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: they still call it that in Newark, New Jersey.

695
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure I believe so. So.

696
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: I mean, what can he tell us? Is Aljoe back

697
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas where the sun shines all the time,

698
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: or is he saying with you there?

699
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: Well he was. He was here for a week, and man,

700
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: he had great sparring with great energy in the gym

701
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: with him and Morob. They'll be coming back. I think

702
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: next week. I think next week. I'm not sure. But

703
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: he did great. Man. He looks fantastic, really excited for

704
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: that fight, you know. And we also got the steamroller.

705
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to forget about him. Everybody's sparred the

706
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: same day, great energy in the gym. That's why I

707
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: say it was a great weekend for the team. Uh yeah,

708
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: we're just going to keep pushing forward.

709
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: Man, remind me who of the steamroller has it f

710
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: C two eighty eight mm or don't remind me, Cody,

711
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: will remind Drew do.

712
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: That's a bit, that's a that's gonna be k.

713
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: That's your dog? How many times am I gonna let

714
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: it whine before I inquire as to whether or not

715
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: that's your dog?

716
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I got it locked up, nobody, So.

717
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Oh man, all right, go get your dog. Put the

718
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: dog on your lap. There are two different types of

719
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: dogs in journalism. You got lap dogs and attack dogs.

720
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 3: Something in broadcast journalism school to try to be an

721
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: attack dog? What not a lap dog? I don't know

722
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: if I realized success on that front. Matt steamroller for Vola,

723
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: by the way, throwing out the first pitch for the

724
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: Mets on April twenty eighth.

725
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's big, that is big stuff.

726
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: That's cool.

727
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: Huh bah Muhammad. They let him really cool white sox cups.

728
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Alright, I closed the door. Hopefully we don't hear it.

729
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: Thank you.

730
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: I don't blame her. I don't blame her.

731
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Well that crazy John, they're crazy.

732
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: They are crazy. Well that's really all I That's really

733
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: all I had for you today, now that you got

734
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: your dog. No, I'll get it together a couple more minutes.

735
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: I have a few other things on. Uh. I'm just

736
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: so excited to drive to Miami this weekend. I can't

737
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: even tell you not get on an airplane.

738
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: And just.

739
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: When I go, I might go fucking Wednesday night. I

740
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: might fucking go Thursday morning, Kenny, before the fighter meetings.

741
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: Maybe I will.

742
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 5: Maybe you're staying at a hotel there though, right, you

743
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: staying at Yes?

744
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh are you going to divulge where you're staying?

745
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: John, You do not do that.

746
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: I shouldn't tell you where my wife and daughter are

747
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: staying at. Welbe Covington wants to head over.

748
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: There, that's what I like, giving me.

749
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: Let me see if I can uh no, don't do

750
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: it if I can find well, no, I mean it's

751
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: interesting because on UFC embedded for a while, they would

752
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: font the host hotel, right, and then they would just

753
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: say host hotel. And yeah, I'm not going to reveal

754
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: the host hotel. I'll be half of the thirty athletes

755
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: that are competing. But if you want to find me,

756
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: I'll be at the Hilton Miami Downtown most likely.

757
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

758
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 3: But yes, no, I'm driving down either Wednesday night or

759
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: maybe Thursday morning. As I said, I mean, it feels

760
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: pretty freeing to know that I can just you know,

761
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: get in my car and uh and drive down there.

762
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: So all right, how far of a drive is it?

763
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: About fifty minutes? Maybe I'll bring the mini van and

764
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: offend everyone. Everyone's offended with minivans. Kayla Harrison doesn't like

765
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: mini vans. Kenny, what can I ask?

766
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: What your family.

767
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: Well, Ken flows family vehicle. I'm gonna get predictive here.

768
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: Let me guess your your family vehicles and Mercedes Bens

769
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: is that actually I'm going.

770
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: To say he's got the Cadillac Escalade.

771
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: You're both raw, all right?

772
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 3: So it's a Porsche Kayenn SUV for the children?

773
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: Is that right?

774
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: Used to be?

775
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: Not any Okay? So you have a bigger car for

776
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: the family. Now, yes, Notice how you won't tell us

777
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: what do you what.

778
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Do you got?

779
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: No, it's a BMW. It's just close.

780
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretentious?

781
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: So and is it the X seven or is it

782
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: all right?

783
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: So?

784
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the X seven I got three kids, the

785
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 3: X seven I wanted to get an X seven.

786
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: Three kids happen?

787
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: It does, but you know, the pretty tight. So but

788
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: I drive a minivan and people bang on this thing

789
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: every chance they get. Right, So I will take my

790
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: the nicer of our two vehicles down to Miami. And

791
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: I won't take the minivan because but I drive a

792
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: minivan and my wife drives an OUTI that I will

793
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: to Miami. But everybody, it's on the minivan until you

794
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: press a button and both doors open, I can put

795
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 3: foot fit thirty bags of fucking mulchat.

796
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: You can put mats in the back, you can train

797
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 5: in the back, set up a little boxing gym, hit

798
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 5: some pads in the back.

799
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Plenty of room.

800
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: But you get your wife that that's got that's got

801
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Connecticut written all over the outer Wow.

802
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: Oh really, I don't know. Does the Audi sound pretentious

803
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: or something?

804
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't know a little bit.

805
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: It's a very fast car. The Audi's a very fast car.

806
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: But I, as God is my witness, I will be

807
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: driving minivans as long as, uh as long as I'm

808
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: on this earth. I've been trying to do some research

809
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: as to like, what is the nicest minivan money can buy?

810
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not even sure what the answer is. You know,

811
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: I drive a Honda Odyssey. It's not like a touring elite.

812
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: It's not their elite elite. But I think maybe a

813
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: Grand Caravan. I don't know.

814
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

815
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: Is this what people signed up for? On DraftKings, we listeners.

816
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: There's going to be odds on what John's next car is.

817
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: That's dray of Kings.

818
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: Somebody suggested, I think it was Cody, that we just

819
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: take all of your predictions. We open up a Draft

820
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: Kings sportsbook account you don't have to fund it, but

821
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: we'll just play on your behalf. Maybe we don't get

822
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 3: in trouble James Kroud style.

823
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: Maybe don't do cro Yeah, am I allowed to bet

824
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: and I got anything in the might that.

825
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: Was our last episode, Like I got to four hundred.

826
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: It was a good rise. Like the guys I'm betting with,

827
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna find out I'm betting. That's that doesn't even

828
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: make sense to me. What you think. I'm on Draft

829
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Kings like everybody else with a with a paper trail

830
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: uli in life.

831
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: I think coaches. I think coaches are okay, certainly professional athletes.

832
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: Game.

833
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, my boss suggests.

834
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: The bookies in Long Island sorry.

835
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: That my twin brother could not bet on the UFC

836
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: because he's family. I was like, what, Like, I mean,

837
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: I'm not sharing any inside information with the guy, but

838
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: can he really not bet on the UFC because.

839
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: Kenny, I mean Kenny to your QUI to your there's

840
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: a lot of bookies if there's.

841
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: Only one or two.

842
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: At yeah, hey, you know who reached out to me

843
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: by the way with that whole Colby Covington thing.

844
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: Who my bookie really?

845
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: Guy? Yep, he's ready to go. I wanted to go,

846
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: ready to go. Those guys, those guys know people.

847
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: I let me tell you so, John, You're in good hands.

848
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: There's a million people down in Florida.

849
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: Way you.

850
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk like a jerk off, but

851
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: you got nothing to worry about.

852
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well I am going to let you fly,

853
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: all right. I wonder I will tell you when you leave.

854
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: The one thing, and sorry for being a little long

855
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: winded on this end today. The one thing I'm gonna

856
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: ask Kenny about when you leave is about Adasania's offensive

857
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: wrestling and how much he expects him to go to.

858
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 4: It this weekend.

859
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean, loo, I'm going to say to that.

860
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they ended up on the floor by

861
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: Alex's mistake last time, Kenny, he I don't think is

862
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: he got him down? I mean, look, that's the path

863
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: to go. I mean the problem with that is if

864
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: you've been a strike your whole life and you expend

865
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: extra energy and that fight stands up and you don't

866
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: have like your defense like you normally have it with

867
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: a guy like that, it's a risky, risky thing, you know.

868
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: But I think for Rizzy it's all or nothing. Even

869
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: if you want to ad him standing up, he's got

870
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: a shot and knocking him out too, you know. But

871
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: you get tied with that guy unloading on you. Ooh fine, man, nuts,

872
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I think that would be a nice

873
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: thing to do. It's just if you haven't been doing

874
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: it though. Man, it's a totally different gas tank. And

875
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: I think that that's the issue that I have with that.

876
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: Although we're not in the camp with him. You know,

877
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's got great wrestling, who knows, you know,

878
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be a great fight.

879
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: You got to be excited for that fight. Oh.

880
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: I can't wait and say what the masses will about

881
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: your hip. But your brain is firing on all cylinders today.

882
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: That's a great answer, It really is.

883
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Because I surprised. I'm surprised my hip hasn't broken me

884
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: down mentally more I don't. It just goes back to

885
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: me and Kenny's conversation. Just stop giving a ship. I

886
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: don't know what it is.

887
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: And aren't you built different too?

888
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Right?

889
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Aren't you one of those built different guys? I'm not

890
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: built different.

891
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay. I don't know if that might be

892
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: a stupid thing, but I think mentally, I don't. I'll

893
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: fucking crawl if I have to. I'm just gonna just

894
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: see what I'm doing. We had anyway, guys, we.

895
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: Had to sit down with Michael Bisbey on the channel

896
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: last week, and on the back end, I did read

897
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: a comment from YouTube from one of our viewers that

898
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 3: has since been shared with you by our producer.

899
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

900
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: About your hip. So did that open up anything for

901
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 3: you in terms of what you might.

902
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: Do or no? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no it does. Yeah,

903
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: I just you know, the schedule has been very busy,

904
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, so I have to I think I'm looking

905
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: maybe at September. You know, I'll get my bike riding

906
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: in this summer, keep everything moving, and then hope to

907
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: make a move with something.

908
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: All right, Well, just know that we're all here for you,

909
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: financially and otherwise to help you get out the other

910
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: side with.

911
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: This hip thing.

912
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Okay, very good, very good?

913
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you all right.

914
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: Guys, I have a great well man, I'll see you

915
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: next week. John, keep your rise open.

916
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: I will buddy, love you. Thank you for and uh,

917
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: don't be don't be a stranger on fight night. You know,

918
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: I like those long ago and can flow text on

919
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: fight night, So so definitely.

920
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: We'll do and Kenny tell him awareness is the first.

921
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: First you have to look at your surroundings. Don't be

922
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: there making sight for you.

923
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, bays and space. We talked about it.

924
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 3: Trust trusted me last week.

925
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: You get a bad feeling in your gut. It just

926
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: want you to run, Thank you.

927
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: I got will.

928
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: That the van is gonna do it. Dy's chasing you.

929
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Cody's I mean, is chasing you in a Maserati. You're

930
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: in the mini.

931
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Vant take you shot minivan, you know, very aero dynamic.

932
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: But what he doesn't know you got five five to

933
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: ten guys in their arm, just jumping out of that

934
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: mini van telling you.

935
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: And you know who's in the back of the minivan too, yo,

936
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: King of Miami. Yeah he game bred mas Vidal is

937
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: in the movie. So hey, Ray, thanks buddy. We appreciate you, man,

938
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: enjoy Hey what are you doing? What are you doing

939
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: this weekend? You're gonna be watching the pay per view

940
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: or what? All right, so no obligates. You got extra

941
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: rounds that other podcast the page like a tent. All right,

942
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: wish all the best and uh much love congrats on

943
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: four hundred episodes. If we don't talk to.

944
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: You Gray Milestone, guys, take it easy, enjoy the rest

945
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: of the week.

946
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 3: Right, Love you buddy. There He is Ray long Ago

947
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: Oh with us on the Anakim Florian podcast. So Michael

948
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: Bisping was on our show last week and he suggested

949
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: a Sonya may want to wrestle a little bit. And

950
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: I think it's one thing to maybe instinctively or reactively wrestle, right,

951
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: but to go in there with the game plan that

952
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: you're going to try to wrestle and get a take

953
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: down in every round. I'm just not sure that Ada

954
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: Sonya's mentality is rooted in in that. What are your

955
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: thoughts on that?

956
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 5: And I also agree with Ray in that that is

957
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 5: something that could be very energy intensive for someone who

958
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: has primarily been a striker, right. I definitely think he

959
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: will integrate that and should integrate that. At the very least,

960
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 5: if your opponent is more aware of your willingness to

961
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 5: get to a clinch or hit a takedown, it sometimes

962
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 5: shuts down your striking a little bit. And I think

963
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 5: that's why it will have a benefit as being part

964
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 5: of those tactics, part of the whole overall strategy for Autisanya. So,

965
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 5: but I do think when when you do that, to

966
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 5: do that in training and doing that in a big fight,

967
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 5: especially for the first time, and just have that be

968
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: your sole strategy, can can be an energy zapper. So

969
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 5: I think Autasanya has to manage that extremely well if

970
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: he is going to have that as one of his

971
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 5: or maybe his primary game plan. I don't think that's

972
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: the case. I agree with you. You know, it's not

973
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: like he can't make adjustments and win that fight with

974
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 5: striking alone.

975
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: He can't. But you know so, Soaca Pereira, Yeah.

976
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: And I am going to get your thoughts later in

977
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: the week when we return in terms of some of

978
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: the energy expenditure stuff that Ray was talking about for

979
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: Jorge mosfied All, Because I do think you can realize

980
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: success in MMA in a lot of different ways.

981
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: You know.

982
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: I know, Kenny, you obviously kept it very tight. You

983
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: would shut down your television schedule six or eight weeks out.

984
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: Then you got guys like Donald Cowboys, Seroni maybe competing

985
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: twice in a three week span and still realizing success.

986
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: So sometimes there are athletes I think they can thrive

987
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: with a lot of noise and others who who prefer

988
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: to take a different approach. All right now joining us,

989
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: and he's doing so, by the way. Between training sessions

990
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 3: no less five days out from his fight at UFC

991
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 3: two eighty seven against Joe Pifer, he is GM three,

992
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: Gerald Mershark, pretty handsome dude, centered up there today, GM three.

993
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: It's good to see him.

994
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: Man.

995
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: How you doing.

996
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 4: Hey, good to see you guys. I'm doing great. How

997
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 4: are you guys?

998
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: We are doing well, so we appreciate your time. Pretty

999
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 3: nice layoffs since your last fight. I don't know if

1000
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: that was by design, but the win over Bruno Silva

1001
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: back on August thirteenth of last year, so not necessarily

1002
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: your norm to have eight months between fights. How has

1003
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: that been for you?

1004
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: You know?

1005
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: Not great, not bad either. I was supposed to fight

1006
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 4: in February.

1007
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 6: Something happened with the opponent is not being able to

1008
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 6: do it, and that's kind of what led to this fight.

1009
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 6: So it's you know, I like to be more active usually,

1010
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 6: but it's also not bad to you know, give your

1011
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 6: body a break.

1012
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: Something looks like we just lost visual on Gerald there,

1013
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: he is, so are you? You're in Florida right now?

1014
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: And then after the fights, you're going to go back

1015
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: to Wisconsin and then move to Florida full time. Is

1016
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: that right?

1017
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: Yep?

1018
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're mute to Gerald after we got

1019
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: that dip. Sorry, by the way, you notice my Wisconsin hat.

1020
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: I know you noticed that.

1021
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 4: You noticed.

1022
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: That's for you. That's a cheese. That's cheese I have.

1023
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: It says Wisconsin. So that's for you. Yeah, I got you.

1024
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, no, that's the plan right now.

1025
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 6: So my uh, you know, probably be my last little

1026
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 6: stress here of fighting.

1027
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to make the best I.

1028
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 6: Can and uh, you know, not not a bad thing either,

1029
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 6: to get away from all the snow all the time.

1030
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 4: So I'm looking for that.

1031
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, man. So so what prompted that that move?

1032
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, it's just hard to be away from

1033
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 6: the family and do training camps. Uh, you know, just financially.

1034
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 6: And I got a young guy, a little son at home,

1035
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 6: and it would just be a lot. If I fought

1036
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 6: three times a year, I'd essentially be gone for half

1037
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 6: the year in a training camp. And that's you know,

1038
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 6: back do I like to stay and like, you know,

1039
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: it takes that much to have you know, the correct

1040
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 6: amount of time dedicated to be fully prepared for a

1041
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 6: UFC fight. So it was just, you know, I'm at

1042
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 6: a place in my career where financially I'm able to

1043
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 6: do that, and like, why not make the last stretch

1044
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 6: of the best stretch and you know, just go all in.

1045
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, that must be tough. Gerald.

1046
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 5: You know, John and I were discussing your your record

1047
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 5: off air, and it's crazy to talk about because you know,

1048
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 5: you're thirty five and fifteen.

1049
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: First of all, a ton of experience.

1050
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: All thirty five wins are by finish either mostly mostly submissions.

1051
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: You got tkos in there, obviously that's got to be

1052
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: a part of your strategy. But how do you prepare

1053
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 5: for that in training to have that type of end

1054
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 5: game where when you get to your spots you're going

1055
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 5: to get that finish.

1056
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, just to be clear, I think I

1057
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: have two decision wins.

1058
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: Maybe too too, Okay, my bad.

1059
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to be claiming something that I

1060
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 4: don't know.

1061
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: Hey, but that's damn close, dude, thirty three, I mean

1062
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 5: that's insane.

1063
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1064
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 6: No, I think anytime I'm training, obviously, you know, you

1065
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 6: never try to like knock out your partners. But maybe

1066
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 6: that's why I have so many finishes. You can't submit them,

1067
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 6: you can do it safely. And I do have some

1068
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 6: knockouts too and tkos. And that's the thing where it's

1069
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 6: not just like, oh, I'm throwing and I hope I

1070
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 6: hit them more than they hit me. Right, I'm going

1071
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 6: to get a good position and maybe something will work out.

1072
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 6: It's like I have a direct path in any given

1073
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 6: situation where I now, if I get you to this spot,

1074
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 6: this is going to be what finishes the fight, and

1075
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 6: if the striking doesn't finish it, it's going to.

1076
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: Make you give me something where I'm going to be

1077
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 4: able to find a submission.

1078
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 6: And especially in MMA, guys have gotten a lot better

1079
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 6: about like not sticking their limbs out for no reason

1080
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 6: trying to defend strikes, so that leads me more to chokes.

1081
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 6: If I get to these spots and I see your

1082
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 6: neck open, I'm gonna take it.

1083
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: Do you know when your last decision win was, by

1084
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 3: the way long time July nineteenth, twoenty thirteen. Oh my god,

1085
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: so almost ten years ago in Duluth, Georgia versus now

1086
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: fame nutritionist George Lockhart.

1087
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, good.

1088
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. That was a fun, tough fight. And

1089
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: that was another one too, right.

1090
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 6: I uh well, we both rocked each other a couple times,

1091
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 6: had chances to finish, but yeah, that was a that's

1092
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 6: just a hard gutta put away.

1093
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: Jerel murchhard with us here on the Anakin Flooring Podcast.

1094
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: So kill Cliff FC is the roof under which you train?

1095
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: What can you tell us about the South Florida training

1096
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: and who are the primary bodies and coaches that you've

1097
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: been leaning on.

1098
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 4: It's a great, great gym obviously, it's good enough to

1099
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: take me move there.

1100
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, all the guys, you know, they have so many

1101
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 6: big guys, especially compared to you know, a lot of

1102
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 6: other gyms in general. Yeah, I've been working a lot

1103
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 6: with Ang Lah and for coaches. You know, Greg Jones

1104
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 6: is always running a lot of grappling practices. Been hitting

1105
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 6: out with Jason Strout and Henry Hooft obviously, and you know,

1106
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 6: there's just a wealth of knowledge and like bigger bodies

1107
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 6: there for me to go with, and it's just, you know,

1108
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 6: I feel like it's made all the difference.

1109
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: Jerel murchhark four and one with four finishes since the

1110
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: fight with kam Zat Chimaya back in twenty twenty, and

1111
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: anyone who has watched baalab Muhammads remember the show, has

1112
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: heard how good you are analytically when you're talking about

1113
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts. I'd imagine a student of the game

1114
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: like yourself would know at this point that Dustin Stoltzfus

1115
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: is a common opponent for you and Joe Pifer. Any

1116
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: thoughts on that angle and ultimately the fight in front

1117
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: of you here in a few short.

1118
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 6: Days, Yeah, I mean, there's probably some stuff I can

1119
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 6: take away from it. I feel like he's going to

1120
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 6: be a little bit different than he was when he

1121
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: fought Dustin, only because now he's got a couple of

1122
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 6: wins under his belt, he's been in the UFC, he's

1123
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 6: getting a little more comfortable, so there's going to be

1124
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: a little bit of that rub on him too. But

1125
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: there's also spots where you know, Dustin's got slicker grappling

1126
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 6: than I think he gets credit for. And even some

1127
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 6: of the times like he reversed off bottom and you know,

1128
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 6: came up for the takedown and.

1129
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: All that stuff. There's, you know, certain things you can't

1130
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: change that dramatically.

1131
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 6: You know, even though it was a couple of years ago,

1132
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 6: in that short amount of time, that's going to show

1133
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 6: itself in a fight, right, So it helps in that way.

1134
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: But on the same hand, nothing really matters.

1135
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 6: So you get in there and you see what's going on,

1136
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 6: because you know, I have limited film on him.

1137
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 4: But I have more experience and he's got a lot

1138
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: of film on me. So you know, it doesn't really

1139
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 4: matter until we get in there and mix it up.

1140
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: All right.

1141
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: I got a few rapid fire questions with you on

1142
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: the way out. I know you keep your private life

1143
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: pretty private, if your Instagram is any indication, But you

1144
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: are a father. Is his name Bronx Mershark, Yes, sir,

1145
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean what a fucking power name that is. You know,

1146
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: we've been pronouncing your name correctly from the moment we

1147
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: started calling your fights, but there are still people who

1148
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 3: drop a meer Shark. Now my name gets completely butcher.

1149
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 3: But I'm not a professional athlete, so I don't much care.

1150
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: To what extent do you care about people calling you

1151
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: Gerald Merschart versus Gerald Meherschart, Uh, not that much if

1152
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 3: you get close.

1153
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 6: You know, I'm used to it by now, but who's

1154
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 6: messing up John Annik.

1155
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: Well, the most common one I get is a nique

1156
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: at the airport. It's always mister Anique, but I think

1157
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: it sounds more sophisticated, so I say, yes, I am

1158
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: mister that.

1159
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 6: Little extra bit of tan and the dark beard, and

1160
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 6: they're like, ah, look.

1161
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: Right there you go. So how old is Bronx and

1162
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: how has that whole navigation been for you as a

1163
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: father slash athlete.

1164
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 6: He's going to be two pretty shortly here, and it's

1165
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 6: been great. You know, it definitely keeps me busy. I'm

1166
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 6: sure I burn more calories during the day when I'm

1167
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 6: home to run around Jason m and making sure he.

1168
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 4: Doesn't like destroy the house, but you know, all good things.

1169
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: That's great. Well, the only thing I would recommend, and

1170
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: again I shouldn't recommend it because I don't necessarily know

1171
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: your family situation nor your wife. But if you have

1172
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: a second one, it actually it's easier to raise two

1173
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: than one. I have found then it is to raise one.

1174
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: All right, So you'll be thirty six years of age

1175
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 3: on December eighteenth, Saturday is going to be your fifty

1176
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: first professional MMA fight. Now I've heard you reference this

1177
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 3: as being the end. So I mean, do you put

1178
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: it at two, three, four more fights? I mean, what

1179
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 3: does the end mean in your mind?

1180
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: Oh?

1181
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 6: No, not the end. I mean I'm just on like

1182
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 6: the last stretch. I feel like as healthy as I've been,

1183
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 6: you know, knock on wood through my entire career, I

1184
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 6: got another four or five good years left in me.

1185
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 7: All right, good, So, yeah, I've been the big scale,

1186
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 7: like I've been fighting for fifteen sixteen years.

1187
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 4: I'm on the tail.

1188
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: End of that. All right.

1189
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: That makes me feel a little bit better because you

1190
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: mentioned it twice early on and candidly. The way I

1191
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: had the question today was over under sixty MMA fights

1192
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: before you retire, And I think, now, if you look

1193
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: at the next four or five years, I think it's

1194
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: realistic for you to get to sixty. But I tweaked

1195
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: the question because I didn't want to, you know, throw

1196
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: some outrageous number out there.

1197
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: But it sounds to me like.

1198
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: You could get to sixty.

1199
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, easily.

1200
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: Just gotta make quick work at Joe Pifer this weekend.

1201
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: All right.

1202
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: Born and raised in Wisconsin, outstanding sports fans up there.

1203
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 3: But I do know that a lot of martial artists

1204
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: and I hate to generalize, they don't give a shit

1205
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: about the Green Bay Packers Northern Milwaukee Bucks. So right now,

1206
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 3: you have the consensus best team in the NBA and

1207
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 3: the Packers have one of the greatest fan bases in

1208
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 3: professional sports. So do you have a favorite professional sports

1209
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 3: team and to what extent do you follow the Wisconsin teams.

1210
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: I don't follow pro sports too much, obviously.

1211
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 6: I definitely watched the Bucks when they were getting in

1212
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 6: the last couple of years they've been in even when

1213
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 6: they didn't win, they were getting really close as soon

1214
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 6: as they pretty much as soon as they got Gianna,

1215
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 6: So that was like just a fun thing to watch

1216
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 6: and like see all the people getting so excited about it.

1217
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 6: And you know, when I grew up, my I was

1218
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 6: kind of like brainwashed as a child. So growing up

1219
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 6: I was a Cowboys fan.

1220
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 7: Oh wow, in Wisconsin when I was little, it was awesome,

1221
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 7: right because it was like the mid nineties when I'm

1222
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 7: in grade school. Obviously, lately not as much, but but

1223
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 7: I have had the privilege to meet like a few

1224
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 7: like former Packers players.

1225
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 6: I lived up in Green Bay for like a year.

1226
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 6: You know, great team, great city. Everybody was super nice,

1227
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 6: but yeah, I don't. I don't follow it too too much.

1228
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 6: I have gone to a game though, I've been you know,

1229
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 6: I've been up there in the Lambeo Field and all

1230
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 6: that fun stuff, so you know, the real Wisconsin experience

1231
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 6: in that sense also, and it's you know, it's different

1232
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 6: the fans. The fans up there like there ain't much

1233
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 6: else to do, but you know, wrestle fighter, drink and

1234
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 6: watch sports, so they're pretty passionate.

1235
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you said it and I didn't because

1236
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 3: when I got to Milwaukee for a UFC event several

1237
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 3: years ago. Yeah, I mean, there wasn't necessarily a whole

1238
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: lot not that. For me, It's perfect. Just sit in

1239
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: my room and research fighters all day. Shout out to

1240
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers by the way as well, great fan base.

1241
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: All right, last question, I know you got to go

1242
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: coldest memory for you weather wise, growing up born and

1243
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: raised in the state of Wisconsin. Any near death experiences

1244
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 3: or just miserable moments, either at Lambeufield or otherwise.

1245
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 4: Not too many.

1246
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 6: No, no real near death experiences. I do remember we

1247
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 6: had a pretty good blizzard. It was like right like

1248
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety nine or something like that and we had

1249
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 6: to drive through it on Christmas. There was not you know,

1250
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 6: maybe four or five years ago, we've been getting more

1251
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 6: of a polar vortexes that dip down from Canada and

1252
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 6: it'll be negative forty for no reason, which is super

1253
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 6: super fun.

1254
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 4: One fun thing I did do once. I remember when

1255
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: I was younger, we were living on the farm. We

1256
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 4: got puppies. Me and my brother.

1257
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 6: We got a puppy in their brother and sister, and

1258
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 6: we had a man made pond on the property. The

1259
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 6: owners did, and they had the air pumping through it.

1260
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 6: If you ever see a man made pond, generally they

1261
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 6: feed air into it so the fish can live and

1262
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 6: all that if you stock it. Well, the dogs ran

1263
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 6: out on the ice and my little guy, we called

1264
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 6: him Rio, he ran out there, slipped and fell in

1265
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 6: the middle. So I had to crawl out under the

1266
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 6: ice and like WHOA, pull them out of there and

1267
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 6: take them back in the house. And I kind of

1268
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 6: like stripped halfway down because I knew if I fall

1269
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 6: in and I have to make too much clothes on,

1270
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna, you know, it's gonna be hard to get out.

1271
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 6: So luckily the ice didn't break on me. And I

1272
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 6: pulled them out of there and got him in the house.

1273
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 6: My parents weren't too happy about it, but we were all.

1274
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 3: Man, well, we're certainly glad. It's been an amazing MMA legacy.

1275
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 3: It continues this weekend for Gerald mur Shark facing Joe

1276
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: Pifer at UFC two eighty seven. You can watch it

1277
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: all play out live on ESPN plus GM three. Have

1278
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: a great week. We'll let you get back to it.

1279
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time and we will see you

1280
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: at the Friday Way and if not sooner.

1281
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: Brother, Hey, thank you guys. Good talking to you. Good luck.

1282
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: Man.

1283
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: There he is Bronx Meurshard's dad, Gerald fighting Joe Pifer,

1284
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: fighting b Joe Pifer this weekend. You know, Gerald has

1285
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: He's derailed some hype trains in his career and that

1286
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 3: is the motivation this weekend against Joe Pifer. We'll see

1287
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: if these roof of Sport guys can continue to fuck

1288
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: with Philadelphia, right blah muhamad against Sean Brady and now

1289
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: Joe Pifer and uh and Gerald mur Shard. All right,

1290
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: that is going to do it for today, but certainly

1291
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: not this week. We're back better than ever with Brian

1292
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: Petree on Wednesday or Thursday with a more comprehensive look

1293
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: at UFC two eighty seven thanks to Ray Longo, Thanks

1294
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: to Gerald Merchhard Don't Forget, and florianpodcast dot com for

1295
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: everything show related. Kenny Florianmartial Arts dot com is also live.

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