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Speaker 1: listen to this, and this is his dad talking. I thought,

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Speaker 1: at some point between twelve and fourteen, coming out of puberty,

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Speaker 1: his sexual engine was in high drive, and he was

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Speaker 1: touching the insides of this animal, and he sort of

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Speaker 1: got hardwired neurally in connecting into connecting sexual pleasure with

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Speaker 1: this type of activity. So he was somehow sexually molesting

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Speaker 1: the innards of the road kill that he picked up, right,

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Speaker 1: which is about as disgusting as anything I've ever heard

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Speaker 1: entrails insides bodies. That's the way I thought about it.

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Speaker 1: After thinking about it for a while, My Lionel wasn't

436
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Speaker 1: the sharpest bulb on the tree there, he said. He

437
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Speaker 1: and his son bonded over taxidermy. Now that's really weird. Well,

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Speaker 1: fathers and sons often bond over hobbies woodworking, cleaning out

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Speaker 1: the inside of dead animals and repairing them to make

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Speaker 1: them look lifelike. Um, well, I guess morticians do that

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Speaker 1: with their kids when they get into the family business. Right,

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Speaker 1: Like they bonded. It's true, you have to embalmb bodies.

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Speaker 1: They bond over embalming. Sure, yeah, it's um, Well, teach

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Speaker 1: your kid how to do it. He's sex. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I had read that Dahmer did kill animals, but I

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Speaker 1: had not read that he was might have been his

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Speaker 1: own road kill then picking up road kill and feeling

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Speaker 1: in the insides. Yeah, and then if it was a

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Speaker 1: slow day on the roads, well, did he do that

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Speaker 1: to some of the many kill? Do you think reached inside?

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Speaker 1: And yes, probably yes, because he was getting a sexual

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Speaker 1: thrill from it. And often serial killers do that. I've

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Speaker 1: read about the serial killers who kill women, women, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes they end the murder with some kind of sexual act,

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Speaker 1: almost like as a punctuation. When we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: hoping that we can stop perhaps a couple of more

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmers. We'll explain the story and play it for you.

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Speaker 1: Shot and Ken caf I am six forty live everywhere

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Speaker 1: come back someday, but that's it for now. On the

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Speaker 1: inflation bonus cash, you go back to illegal gambling, the

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Speaker 1: lottery the lottery. Alec Stone will be long after four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: The four students who apparently were stabbed to death in

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Speaker 1: their sleep at their off campus home the University of

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Speaker 1: Idaho in a place called Moscow. We'll see what the

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Speaker 1: latest is on that very strange story, which started out

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Speaker 1: saying targeted killing, but now people are saying beware, maybe

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Speaker 1: the community is not so safe. Maybe there's a mad cycle,

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Speaker 1: murderous serial killers. Right, speaking of psychos, we were just

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Speaker 1: talking about Jeffrey Dahmer. His father was interviewed by doctor

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Speaker 1: Phil and feels like they may have made some discover

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Speaker 1: but he thought it was just too impossible. I mean

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Speaker 1: not thought it was impossible. It's just not something to

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Speaker 1: think of that your son is like a serial killer

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Speaker 1: and accountable. The other story that comes into this was

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Speaker 1: earlier this week. Remember we talked to the documentary filmmaker

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Speaker 1: for Crazy Cat Lady. This is the documentary film about

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles's feral cat population. So now we bring both

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Speaker 1: stories together and it's a good thing. Deborah Mark is

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Speaker 1: out sick today because this is a tough one. This

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Speaker 1: would make her sick. This is a tough one to bear.

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Speaker 1: But if they can catch these two guys, maybe they

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Speaker 1: can stop a future murderer. Because they say that sometimes

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Speaker 1: these psychos start by torturing and killing animals, don't they

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Speaker 1: say that? Yeah, well they do. This is from n

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Speaker 1: SEE four reporter Tony Shin. Let's listen. This is cell

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Speaker 1: phone video taken by Camille Rapitch of a stray cat

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Speaker 1: he named Scruffy. A Scruffy started appearing about three months ago.

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Speaker 1: She was sleeping in a little drain right back there.

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Speaker 1: Camille works at CFR Patio and Scruffy was one of

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Speaker 1: several stray cats that they would feed and provide water.

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Speaker 1: But Scruffy had a special place in Camille's hard I

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Speaker 1: Human Society. They do a great service for straight cats.

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Speaker 1: He loved her so much he was planning to bring

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Speaker 1: her home. I would hang out of from my brakes

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Speaker 1: my lunch after work, would come here on the weekends

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Speaker 1: with my girlfriend to visit her, just because we were

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Speaker 1: ready to adopt her. But we were just waiting for

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Speaker 1: our landlord to let us. Now, Tuesday night, around nine thirty,

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Speaker 1: surveillance video shows Scruffy in the CFR Patio parking lot

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Speaker 1: as a white car approaches. It appears the passenger uses

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Speaker 1: some type of pellet or bb gun to shoot Scruffy.

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Speaker 1: We are blurring part of the attack because it is gruesome.

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Speaker 1: While Scruffy is lying helpless on the ground, two men

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Speaker 1: hop the fence start taking pictures of Scruffy. You don't

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Speaker 1: think that people actually do that kind of stuff, but

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Speaker 1: they do. Colin Lee's father owns the patio company. He

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Speaker 1: says what happens next is unthinkable because one of the

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Speaker 1: men appears to pull out a knife and start stabbing

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Speaker 1: Scruffy repeatedly while the other records it. And that's a

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Speaker 1: real I think shows that they're really sick people. Killing

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Speaker 1: a cat's not okay, but coming over here and desecrating

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Speaker 1: the body like that is just it's psychopaths. Later, the

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Speaker 1: two men casually walk away and get into their car.

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Speaker 1: The Inland Valley Humane Society is now trying to identify

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Speaker 1: the two people in this video so they can be

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Speaker 1: arrested for felony animal abuse. Camille says he can't watch

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Speaker 1: the video and he is heartsick because he was so

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Speaker 1: close to rescuing Scruffy. He's also afraid of what the

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Speaker 1: cat killers might do next. Who knows, maybe next week

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Speaker 1: they want to shoot a homeless person, you know, you'd

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Speaker 1: never know how it's going to go. And I really

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Speaker 1: hope they get what's coming to him. Well, they've probably

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Speaker 1: done a lot of this. I mean, if there's you know,

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Speaker 1: a million or three million stray cats running around LA,

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Speaker 1: then you know you can kill as many as you want.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna notice or care because they don't obviously don't

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Speaker 1: have owners. I would figure this is a regular activity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, video cameras are everywhere now, that's why we've

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Speaker 1: got to catch things like this. We wouldn't have caught

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Speaker 1: years ago. But you probably write these two guys and

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Speaker 1: at first I thought they might be kids, but they

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Speaker 1: are described as men and they had a car. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's just a night out for them to go over

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Speaker 1: and look for stray animals to kill. It's a psychological

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Speaker 1: compulsion and they get a thrill out of it. They

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Speaker 1: get a thrill out of overpowering a weak, helpless animal

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Speaker 1: and watching them die. It gives them a sense of accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: They may get sexual gratification out of it. Well, if

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Speaker 1: they're caught. One of them used his own cell phone

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Speaker 1: to record it. It's like it could be nice self

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Speaker 1: incrimination there. The Humane Society has taken the cat body.

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Speaker 1: That's too bad, poor scruffy. Can they they do? I'm

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Speaker 1: just making this up. A reverse ping on the cell

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Speaker 1: phone because wherever you take your cell phone, unless you

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Speaker 1: turn off the location tracker, Yeah, it records where you

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00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: are after the facts. So if they confiscate somebody's cell phone,

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Speaker 1: they can look and see where you were with the

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Speaker 1: cell phone, and they can go through the phone records

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Speaker 1: of the cell phone company and track you know where

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Speaker 1: you've been, and then they can use that to tie

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Speaker 1: you to a crime. But how would they have any

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Speaker 1: idea that it's these two men's cell phone if they

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Speaker 1: don't know who. Well, that's when it when it pings

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Speaker 1: back to the towers. Yeah, and the information is recorded

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Speaker 1: by you can see whose cell phones may have been

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Speaker 1: pinging the towers at that time of night the other night.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it works that way. Yeah, right now,

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Speaker 1: it looks like it's just an investigation by the Inland

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Speaker 1: Valley u Maine Society in the SPCA, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that it's a police investigation. They always still think there

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Speaker 1: might be some kind of a crime here for doing this.

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Speaker 1: When they get bored with the stabbing and killing cats.

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Speaker 1: Oh it'll be children, or you know, yeah, something that

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Speaker 1: guy said. Maybe some homeless person, some other person that's

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Speaker 1: kind of really out of it doesn't really fight back.

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Speaker 1: They don't, they don't have any conscience about it, and

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Speaker 1: they're getting pleasure out of this, all right. When we return,

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Speaker 1: our guests will be Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI

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Speaker 1: with the latest the surviving roommates in that off campus

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Speaker 1: house at the University of Idaho where four young people

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Speaker 1: were stabbed to death. There were two others that lived

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Speaker 1: in that house. They were not harmed. They are talking

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Speaker 1: to the police and are very cooperative. It looks like

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Speaker 1: from the latest news that the four who died were

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Speaker 1: stabbed in their sleep. Alex Stone's next John and Ken

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