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Speaker 1: A need call from Washington to authorize the use of

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Speaker 1: as talk of drawing redlines grows. Louder will be joined

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor Democratic analyst Gennie Chanzano, along with Republican

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Speaker 1: thanks for the time, Ryan T. Beck with Bloomberg National

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Speaker 1: Politics Reporter. Appreciate the insights. That's like the first time

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Speaker 1: Verizon listening? As I read in Mark Niquette's piece on

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Speaker 1: the terminal. Trump has also made endorsements in high stakes

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Speaker 1: Republican Senate primary races in Pennsylvania. That's the seventeenth of May,

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Speaker 1: up next. As we reassemble the panel. Genie is with

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Speaker 1: us Jennie Chanzano. Today, Adam Goodman is here as on

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Speaker 1: you know that's why you're here on Bloomberg Sound On.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. This is Bloomberg. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: As we reassemble the panel with Jeanie Chantano, Bloomberg Politics contributor,

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Speaker 1: Democratic analysts, joined to day by Adam Goodman, Republican media strategist, columnist,

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Speaker 1: and Edward R. Morrow, Senior Fellow at Tufts University's Fletcher School,

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Speaker 1: following our conversation there with Ryan te beckwith about the

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Speaker 1: primary tomorrow in Ohio. A Fox News polled last week.

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Speaker 1: This is likely the most recent data we have showed.

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Speaker 1: J d Vance had vaulted to the lead from third

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Speaker 1: Josh Mandel. Former Ohio treasurer and investment banker Mike Gibbons,

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Speaker 1: Timpkin trailed the leaders there, but a quarter of voters

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Speaker 1: remained undecided, and so this is kind of interesting, Uh, Jeanie,

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Speaker 1: your take on this as we go into really one

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Speaker 1: of the most important primaries that we've had so far

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Speaker 1: here that we're gonna get into a much more compressed

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Speaker 1: that's out there between a number of candidates who are

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Speaker 1: all trying to more quickly wrap themselves in Trump than

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Speaker 1: the next guy. Yeah, and I'm so excited, Joe, as

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Speaker 1: you know, thirteen states with primaries. It's election season, my

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Speaker 1: is that Dolan is creeping up. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: Vance is still about twenty six. You know, a quarter

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Speaker 1: as you were just talking with Ryan, because this is

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Speaker 1: You know. My take is that either way, Trump wins because,

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Speaker 1: as you've pointed out, all of them have been running

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Speaker 1: As it turns out here, Adam, you know we've seen

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Speaker 1: Josh Mandel wrapped himself in Trump and try to make

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Speaker 1: this a contest about, you know, the Trump purity test.

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Speaker 1: If if I could put all I could put those

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Speaker 1: three words together with a straight face. But you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm where I'm going with this. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: paint j. D Vance is kind of a fake Trumper

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Speaker 1: because he didn't always say the nicest thing about him

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Speaker 1: first of all, when Josh Mandel's slogan is pro God,

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Speaker 1: know where he's coming from. And some might suggest it's not.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe this. But even if the supposed club

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Speaker 1: I that's an iron The irony is that he kind

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Speaker 1: like you have an entry one A and one B right,

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Speaker 1: Matt Dolan, who comes from one of the richest families

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Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna try to read into this, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: many things to a potential twenty four run. The reality

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Speaker 1: I think I think he's gonna come out of this

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Speaker 1: looking very good. Dr Oz. You suggested in Pennsylvania ring

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait where they were funning games to begin,

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Speaker 1: It's like Netflix just dropped the new series. You know,

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Speaker 1: you've got one each week for the next three weeks

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Speaker 1: to get really excited about here you guys. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the Club for Growth went for it, coming out hard

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Speaker 1: and we kind of broke this up for you to

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Speaker 1: uses tape from J. D. Vance being interviewed previously about

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Speaker 1: Trump and Trump supporters. First listen to the bit in

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Speaker 1: Here's the ad from Club for Growth Action. People who

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Speaker 1: voted for trumpeted form for racist reasons. Where does he

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Speaker 1: get off saying that we've got our own eyes in

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Speaker 1: our own ears. J D. Vance is a fraud. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So people who voted for Trump did so for racist reasons.

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Speaker 1: They've been they've been blasting out that clip. Here's the

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Speaker 1: Listen again to J. D. Vance. Some people who voted

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Speaker 1: racist reasons. I always resist the idea that the real

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Speaker 1: thing driving most Trump voters was racial anxiety or racial animus,

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Speaker 1: partially because I didn't see it right. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: three words jobs, jobs, Jobs. So he's asked, if you

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Speaker 1: know the racist thing was an issue, and he's actually

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Speaker 1: explaining that it was not in his view. And now

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Speaker 1: it's because of a very you know, careful edit there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's he's saying exactly the opposite in this ad.

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Speaker 1: And this is what politicians, of course love about. Uh

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Speaker 1: editing and media and all the rest of it. And

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Speaker 1: is this fair game, Genie? I mean, does this actually

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Speaker 1: have an impact on what we're talking about here. Of

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Speaker 1: Josh Mandel doesn't need a lot to win. You know,

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Speaker 1: their their neck and neck, that's right. And the Club

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Speaker 1: for Growth has been hitting Trump very hard in Ohio

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Speaker 1: and you know they also and talking that ad about

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Speaker 1: the fact that he endorsed Romney in and you know,

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Speaker 1: they say, look how that turned out. You know, of course,

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Speaker 1: you know Trump's famously sent a profane message to the

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Speaker 1: president with all of these attacks, but they have kept

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Speaker 1: it up. You know, I think you know, the reality

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Speaker 1: is when you look at the numbers, these ads do

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Speaker 1: men do matter? Negative ads work, Positive ads don't work.

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Speaker 1: I love the editing and the music they put behind it.

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Speaker 1: It's classic um and you know, so it will likely

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Speaker 1: And you know, the fascinating thing here is that you

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Speaker 1: depending on which poll you look at. And again we

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Speaker 1: so it is very possible any one of these three

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Speaker 1: plurality in this case, and and that could really be

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Speaker 1: up you know, big upset if it's Dolan. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I have to laugh because I can't believe Adam just

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Speaker 1: suggested that Trump would take you know, would would take

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Speaker 1: credit regardless what happens. That doesn't sound like our former president.

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Speaker 1: That would never happen. So connect the dots here a

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Speaker 1: little bit, though, Adam, you heard us play Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: from earlier, earlier this hour from the rally. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we can play that again from the rally

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night where he screws up J. D Vance's

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Speaker 1: name and actually calls him, you know, JP Mandel or

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Speaker 1: something like that. You know, add that to this advertisement

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Speaker 1: knocking J d Vance's uh, you know, prior statements about

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Are they onto something? Does it work? I'm

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Speaker 1: still smiling by what because of what Jeanie just said.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh, let me let me put it this way.

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Speaker 1: Never lets and I'm an ad maker, really, That's what

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Speaker 1: I did in the business for a long time. My

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Speaker 1: My response would be, never let the facts get in

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Speaker 1: the way of great ad copy. There's that's what you

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Speaker 1: saw in this act that when you've played out the

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Speaker 1: real quote versus what was used. But the bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I hail from Florida, or at least

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Speaker 1: over the last twenty five years. I was there in

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the race for governor between Rhonda Santis

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Speaker 1: UH and a very popular Adam Putnam. Putnam was up

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Speaker 1: points midway through the primary. The president Um decides he's

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Speaker 1: going to weigh in. He endorses Rhonda Santis. I'm being

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Speaker 1: I'm interviewed on some panel and they said, what do

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Speaker 1: you think that means? I said, it's over. He said,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean? I said it's over. And Rhonda

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Speaker 1: Santis went from twenty five down to winning by like

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Speaker 1: twenty over a very popular mainstream conservative Republican. So with

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Speaker 1: all that we've just talked about, do not enter undersk

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Speaker 1: to made. The power is still don't bet against Inhio, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: It may don't bet against Donald Trump in this primary,

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Speaker 1: but we played it at the very beginning. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: it back again. Here's Trump at the rally Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: You got that justin. You know, we've endorsed Dr Oz,

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Speaker 1: We've endorsed JP, right, J D. Mandel, and he's doing great.

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Speaker 1: They're all doing good. JP is is actually well, Mandel

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Speaker 1: is doing good. They're both doing good. Genie, is this

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Speaker 1: just for people like us to hash around or or

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Speaker 1: or is it remembered? Will that become its own ad

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Speaker 1: after primary day if Mandel wins. You know, Democrats are

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Speaker 1: the better for Democrats. So I bet we keep hearing

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Speaker 1: more of this great talk with Genie and Adam Adam

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of Sunda. We'll meet you back here tomorrow

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Speaker 1: on primary day and a lot more to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Get up early. I'll meet you on Bloomberg's surveillance tomorrow

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