1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Realty Real Celebrity Real joined the Breakfast Morning Everybody is 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: DJ Envy Angela Ye Sholoman, the guy. We all the 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Breakfast club got a special guest of legend in the building. Face, 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: what's up? I want to miss the face? Man. I 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: appreciate y'all having me. Man, you was like a whole 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: different person. My brother like a whole different person. I'm 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: trying to gun up, trying to get some of the 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: old without hey, without the jail sentence one much time. No, 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: go ahead, you go ahead, curse, it's all right. We 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: give it out so bad. He'll be like, man, face, 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: you blew it. You blew it were hearing it. It'd 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: be easier if you don't. You don't do too many interviews. No, 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: I don't. Historically you have it. Uh, it wasn't really 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: much to talk about. You gotta hold what do you 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: mean face? I mean, he speaks to his music a lot, though. 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: You don't really much to talk about. I mean not 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: even not only that. I'm I'm sorry, I don't I 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: interviewed you one time. I thought it was really fun 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: because I hadn't. Yeah, I didn't know your personality was 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: so hya talking to the micro face. I'm sorry. I'm 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: laid on you madman very much. So that's the name 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: of your book. I wish they had sent the copy 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: of your book up here before it came out to 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: It's out today though, Diary of a Madman. No I 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: got I got in doing this create space. I'm good 26 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: to see you in good health. One of the last 27 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: things I heard was you you on your deathbed. Well, 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to die, so I had to make 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: I had to make some adjustments. You I was gonna be, 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, sick and heart attack, stroke or you know, 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: just dying in my sleep. I could try to make 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: a change. You had a lot of health issues. It 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: was like the whole list of things. Blood blood pressure, 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: still have issues with high blood pressure, borderline diabetic, in 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: large heart, uh, some kidney damn. Yeah, but you know 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: that's irreversible. But you can stop it. I can't fix it, 37 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: but you can stop it, you know. And and and 38 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: and Every March somebody in my family has a stroke. 39 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: Luckily ain't happened lately, but every March somebody. My grandfather died, 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: my aunt had a stroke in March. She's we believe them, Yeah, 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: she's up. My uncle Mike, don't talk to Mike. It 42 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: for you, all right. So what you said, your grandma, 43 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: my grandfather died. He died hard attack in the house 44 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: that I grew up in. Uh, my aunt she had 45 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: a stroke. She's actually living in the house with my grandmother. 46 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: And then my uncle he's in the home. He had 47 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: a stroke. He had like seven or eight of them, though, 48 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: I know. So what was it for you? Hard living? 49 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Just the years in the round? I mean, like my mom, 50 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: Like my mom said, if I knew I was gonna 51 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: live as long, I would have took away better kill myself. 52 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: I had no idea that I was going to live 53 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: to see thirty five. I mean twenty four. I mean 54 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: how I twenty four? I had no idea I was 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna live as long. And I was like, damn, I 56 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: lived as long. I had an interesting quote from you 57 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: said something about you were just living to die or 58 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: something like that, Like, I mean, you're born dying the first, 59 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: the first when you come out or whenever you come 60 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: out of whatever part you come out of, that's your first. 61 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: That's when your clocks start ticking. Film. Yeah, J j H. 62 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: That's what you want to call it. Born dying. That 63 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: sounds so pessimistic too. Really, I don't know I'm born dying. Okay, 64 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: you can say I'm born living. You canna look at 65 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: it realistically. How did you lose so much weight? I 66 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: ran for my life, man, I had to, I did. 67 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: I ran for my life. Um, and now I eat right, 68 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: and I'm lying. Yesterday, I was in Denver in four twenty. 69 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: You were smoking. You had the Munkey's dude, So I 70 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: can't say this, ye yes, man, I went to Denver, right, 71 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: and I promised myself, Look, I'm not smoking, boy, I 72 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: swear to goodness, like even though you can smoke as 73 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: much weed as you can consume, you can smoke as 74 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: much like I don't even have to buy weeding. Different, right, bro. 75 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I rolled up a joint and I ooked some of it, 76 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: and I got so high and I was so hungry. 77 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: I ate, like, really bad would you get, dude? I 78 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: had like four reasons peanut butter cups. I love reasons 79 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 1: peanut butter cups, man, especially when you're high. Nah, it's bad, 80 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: he said, it's bad. I ate them. I ate them. 81 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I drunk some orange shoes. Yeah, and that's not good 82 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: of your boyline diabetic. I'm not boyline, die back no 83 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: more Okay, okay, um I hope not. I need to 84 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: go get some more tests, man, but I think I'm 85 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: pretty outly clear now. Society. That was stuff together. No, 86 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: you brought up a good point. You said you never 87 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: thought you would live to see twenty four, but now 88 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: at the age you're at, do you do you want 89 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: to live? It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And 90 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: that's that's in the book. I talked about how bad 91 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to die when I was younger, and like, 92 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: but what kind of advice would you give to somebody, 93 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: you know, who's who's feeling like face like I getting 94 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the trap off, He's like who that? Um I was? 95 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: They said, what advice did you give to someone that's 96 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's thinking about my advice and my suggestion 97 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, like I say, would be to 98 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: just live it. You know. It's it's too easy to die. 99 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: Said that. It's been said in my book, like it's 100 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: too easy to die to hard living is the hard part. Like, man, 101 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that that uh, we are governed by 102 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the laws of a forgiving guard. Okay, he forgave what 103 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: I attempted to try to what I thought that I 104 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: wanted to do to myself. You know, instead of taking 105 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: my ass out, he gave me an opportunity to live. 106 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: You know, why did you want to die? I don't know, 107 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: and I think more of I think maybe I just 108 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: wanted Attenion read that song because I think that if 109 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: you really wanted to die, you could. That's the easy part. 110 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Living is a tough part. I'm not I'm not gunghole 111 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: about checking out of this right now. You know, I 112 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: know it's inevitable, as I said before, and you hate 113 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: when I talk like that. I know, but yeah, but 114 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: let's let's talk from the beginning. Ghetto boys loved it 115 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: first time we we we were the first time me 116 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: as a New Yorker heard scarfaces on ghetto boys and 117 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: how it Let's talk from the beginning. A lot of 118 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: people might not know who the Ghetto Boys or how 119 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: did that group come about? That was a group that 120 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: existed before I became a part of it. Um, James Prince, 121 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: it's a genius, right, It's a genius. He heard something 122 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: then Will and heard something in me and put together 123 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: a group her and Bill and put together a group 124 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: that would you know, later be a part of hip 125 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: hop history. Absolutely. You know, how was it when when 126 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: the first time you met Bushwick? Bill? Because I mean, 127 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: if you don't know who bush he's I guess a 128 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: little guy. Hey. Um, when I first met Bill, I 129 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: thought he was a little Jay, little Jay, little Jay? 130 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: Who the og? Oh? When I first you know, when 131 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: I first met Bushwick, you know, he was walking around 132 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: saying he was a little Jay. Got you Yeah, And 133 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, man. So as time went on, 134 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: I realized that Bushwick was not a little Jay. Yeah. 135 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: When I finally got a chance to meet Jay, I 136 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: knew that Bill wasn't him right, Like, thank god I 137 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: did not sign the bill straight up, man, I have 138 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: still been under that contract. But now when I first 139 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: met Bill, um, yeah, we thought he was Jake. He's 140 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: still around now, Bill, Yeah, yeah anymore. Yeah we can 141 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: read two. In June, Bill lost his mind, man, rest 142 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: in peace, man. Uh yeah, he lost his mom. He 143 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: just lost his lost. I thought he'd been was crazy. No, 144 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: you know his mom. Now he's been lost. That that's 145 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: been gone. Yeah, um Bill, Um, yeah, what do you 146 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: mean to say that Bill was cool? You know Bill? Bill? 147 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: You know me and Bill used to live together. You know, 148 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: in the same house for a long time. So if 149 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: I never ever saw Bill again in life, it would 150 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: be way too soon. And that's that's my friend. But 151 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: damn man, Bill cut my damn thumb off. Damn him there. 152 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: He didn't jumped out of second floor windows. He did 153 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, did y'all all that kind of 154 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: I ain't never had no fight with Bill. That that's 155 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: not that's not. That wouldn't be fun, man, because you 156 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: couldn't go to sleep around him. He'll he'll, he'll, he'll 157 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: kill you. He really was the guy rapping at the 158 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: end of mine, playing tricks on them. No I wrote that, 159 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: wrote that, No, I wrote that for me like that 160 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: was my record got you first? And funny how that 161 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: song came about. Um, I was when Willy left the group, 162 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: left the group, and I was fortunate to a solo. 163 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: I just knew my I just knew this was over right, Like, 164 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: damn man, we ain't got no more wheel gettle boys 165 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: a huge success when we'll leave the group. Well, I 166 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: just knew it was over for me. So I just 167 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: got back on. I was gonna. I was a solo 168 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: artist the beginning, so I just started making my own 169 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: stuff you know again, and Jay was trying to put 170 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: a deal together with me at Priority the same time 171 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: the Ghetto Boys, we're finishing up the week can be 172 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: stopped the album, and I played a couple of records 173 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: for Jay and Jay took them the Priority. When Jay 174 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: came back from Priority, he was like, man, they love 175 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: this mind playing tricks song. So he put Willie on it, 176 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: gave Bill the last verse, and the rest is history. 177 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: All the verses were the same. No, the first verse, 178 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: the second verse, and Bill's verse are the verses that 179 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: I originally wrapped in the song from the first one, 180 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: the first my mind playing tricks on me. Now, when 181 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: you hear Willie, that's Willie's verse that he wrote. But 182 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: the other four verse, the other three verses on that record, 183 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: or the three that I wrote, and Bill took the 184 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: last one. Now, would that song have been as big 185 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: as it is now if I wrapped it by myself? 186 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Probably not right, you know that it remains to be 187 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: Were you okay with that? I'm alright with I'm a 188 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: team player. You know. The song was amazing. It was 189 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: the visual that did it, so probably you know what I 190 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, running up on people that I was like that. 191 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: That idea of not rapping in lip syncing and your 192 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: videos was my idea. I don't never want to be 193 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: in a video. I don't like the performance part of 194 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: a video. I like to just show what happened, you 195 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I love that part um 196 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: the visuals. I feel like, make the song, you know. 197 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: And that's probably why that song was as big too, 198 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: along with what was being said feeling relationship like with 199 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: a Prince j Prince we are or we don't, we don't, 200 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: we don't talk much, but we are. Yeah. So what 201 00:12:54,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: made you decide to write a book? Um? Actually it 202 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: came from some people that were managing me before and 203 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: thought that I had an interesting story to tell and 204 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: hooked up with a literary agent and and a guy 205 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: that was a great writer, phenomenal. He may added some 206 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: some keep the cool book types I can really write 207 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: in there, right, Yeah, But for the most part, you know, 208 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: that was my story books in music, because you're always 209 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: autobiographical in your music anyway, I know it was that 210 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: very Yeah, you're right, you've been giving us audio books 211 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: for years, so appreciate that. I can't really say that 212 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: it's a difference I think that the main part is, 213 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: you know how to hide something from somebody, you put 214 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: it in the book, right, Okay, well then damn it, 215 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying somebody. The best way to hide something from 216 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: it is put in the book. Well, if you got 217 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: something that somebody that you respect got written down, then 218 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: maybe I can get in the reading dawn, come on 219 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: see the god man. My favorite kind of books, all right, 220 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: all right, all right now, my favorite kind of books 221 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: to be the autobiographies. Even if it's like a genre 222 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: of music that I don't listen to, I always think 223 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear people's stories. Yeah, this is the truth, 224 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help 225 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: my job. And like you said before, the one except 226 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: that we've been seeing everywhere is they said you try 227 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: to kill yourself. Several times you've said you took a 228 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: bunch of pills, like your mother's pills. Yeah, my mom, 229 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: I took some blood pressure pills and some others. And 230 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: I just remember waking up in the ambulance going to 231 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: excuse me the er and they gave me some called 232 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: epicat Damn. Sorry, man, that's that's loud. I said this word. 233 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: I've been cussing all through the show about I thought 234 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: you was telling us about some new drugs. We never 235 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: heard of that, Okay, it was epict Oh lord, I'm 236 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: talking about I picked out my guts for like hours 237 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: until I just had to dry heaves. You know how 238 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: you be trying to won't come out? And then I'm 239 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: sorry y'all again. But they said you used to act 240 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: out just because you wanted attention, used to beat people 241 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: with baseball bats. You tried to kill yourself off. I ain't. 242 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: I ain't want nobody ask for no attention. Okay, but 243 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: I do. I do encourage even say that, because that's 244 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna give me a lot of Uh what do you encourage? 245 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I encourage the kids, every kid that you got a 246 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: problem with that bully. You're going in front of the 247 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: class and you beat his ass in front of everybody. 248 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: That kid, he don't know. That's the first thing I did. Yeah, 249 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: if he was the baddest, if he was the baddest 250 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: dude in the school, if he's walking around and filling 251 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: on people's ears and shit, I remember beat up a 252 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: dude named Tyrone grabbing on my ear like this all time. 253 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the school with the bully. You know, 254 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know he just and I. I had a 255 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: I had a boxing game when since I was eight 256 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: years old, I wasn't there doing that doing it, So 257 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: I guess he didn't know, you know when I went 258 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: to it. When I transferred to different school, like I 259 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: get kicked out of school everywhere I go, Like I 260 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: didn't even finish the ninth grade because they weren't even 261 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that they don't let me go back 262 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: to school now. Don't want to see you in ninth Gracious, 263 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: did you ever get at the plumber? He just said 264 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: he was the name grade. I mean, I got kicked 265 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: out of school too, but I got nothing. Um when 266 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: when people say, man, you're stupid my grade education, what 267 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: would you expect? So the rap field, that void? That 268 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: that that the attention you were seeking to rap Philip Um. 269 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: At the time that I was acting out, I didn't 270 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: know that attention was what I was looking for. I 271 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: didn't realize how much attention I was missing until I 272 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: had my own children, and then I realized, oh god, damn, 273 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: this boy just wants some attention. Looking at what my 274 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: sons would do for attention from me as what I 275 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: would do back then for attention from my parents. I 276 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: didn't have not a one time I saw my mom 277 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: in the stands uh when I was playing football or baseball. 278 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: All our remember was my mom coming up to the 279 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: school after I beat out the principle. What what could 280 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: the principal, Man, don't ask me, don't ask me. Ask 281 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the people they went to school with me. Yeah, say 282 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: that he really beat up the principle. They'll be like, hell, yeah, 283 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: the bok. I don't know if that's in the bottom. Well, 284 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: this is a dude. Told one of my partners that, yeah, 285 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go steal braid, and my partners said, you 286 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: better hit him good. I gotta let him tell a story. 287 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna record him telling the story. Anyway. I don't 288 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: know nothing about what happened pre fight. All I know 289 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: is I went in my locker and he hit me, 290 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: and I and my boy saying that wasn't good enough. 291 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: I heard that, so I got dead on his hands. 292 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: The bell rung and people was getting out of classes coming. 293 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: They lay locker. So as brother comes to see the fight, 294 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: his brother jump in, you know his ass. The sister 295 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: principal come up, got on his ass. The principal came up, 296 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: got on her ass, a girl, a woman. The coach 297 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: came up, got on his ass. When I finally stopped 298 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: getting on people's ass, but Mama came up there and 299 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: she said the next time that I have to come 300 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: up to this school, I'm gonna moon everybody, Moon everybody. 301 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: He says, she's gonna moon everybody. You're showing your ass. 302 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Dropped out crazy, never went back, never be allowed back anyway, 303 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: they said, sistance. They tried to put me in this 304 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: alternative school, like a school that's damning like Ellen. So 305 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I went there for like four days five and it 306 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: realized it wasn't for me. So when did you get 307 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: introduced to pinning paper boy because you wasn't in school? 308 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: Like what made you just start drhymming? I would have 309 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: to say that I didn't know that we had the 310 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: right rhymes, right rhymes. Probably, I don't know. Man, this 311 00:20:47,119 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: is this is the r MTV raps um Beato, this 312 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: is some funny m so Beato was managing me and 313 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: we were producing records. Beto would come. We ride the 314 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: metro red metro bus and Beto would, uh, you have 315 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: a brief. It was not a briefcase. It was actually 316 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: you know how to remember to to set uh carry 317 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: where he had that with all the papers in it, 318 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: like it was a briefcase. Got So we would go 319 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: up to this place in the mall called um uh 320 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: somebody records Sounds Sounds something in the mall where you 321 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: can rock record raps. Right, So I would be box 322 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: on one track and I bust a freestyle on the 323 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: other and we will will be listening to this man 324 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's like, man, you need 325 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: to Yeah, you're just as good as everybody else. Got you, 326 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: But what got you spitting so deep? Because I mean, 327 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: you listen to any of your albums, you spit a 328 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: way that most people don't. How you spit from the hawk. Now, 329 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: after meeting you, I'm thinking it probably with therapeutic and 330 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: probably you're to be able to say it. I think 331 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: that's important to be able to say it. I mean 332 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: I always say, if you ain't right, I tell me. 333 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: I tell Brad Junior is trying to get into it. 334 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: He's producing, and then m Bryce is trying to rap, 335 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: and then my son Chris is trying to rap, and 336 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling him, like, look, bro, like if you ain't writing, 337 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: if you ain't crying when you're done writing that song 338 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: and you're not writing the right songs. No, No, it's 339 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: it's true because I mean listening to you, I remember 340 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: the joint you did with with Jane Beans and the 341 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: one you said with Brad's too. It made me bust 342 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: a tear. I'm listening to what I'm tearing because that 343 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: was that was actual, actual, factual, right thing and I 344 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: felt I feel it. Yeah, you even said in the 345 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: record you cried as you was right now. Yeah, No, 346 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: I cried when I wrapped it. You can hear it. 347 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: It was another one I cried on too, man, the 348 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: damn uh uh no surrender. M. That was a real story, 349 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: like that was true, Like they found my buddy in 350 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: his house gone and he was laying his safe dead 351 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: and M Paul Lard she had a bullet through her hand, 352 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: through her head like she had it was it was, 353 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: it was a bad thing. And I recorded the video 354 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: over there where it actually happened, and yeah, like reliving 355 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: that moment that in that studio. You can hear it 356 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: in a voice like it came like damn, you know 357 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: when when when when if you if you write something 358 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: you're not If you ain't crying when you're done writing it, 359 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: then you didn't write the rights period And that that 360 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: that That's just a long and the short of it. 361 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: For me. I come from a long list of of 362 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: musicians and writers, you know, and we always wrote and 363 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: played our hearts. You know. I can't read music, but man, 364 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: if you gave me a guitar, I break the room down. 365 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: I actually been playing guitar too, like with rock bands 366 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, I'm stupid man, having a good ass time. 367 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: What was your relationship like with Pope? It seemed like, 368 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, Park got a really good report with each other. Yeah, 369 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: until we was on the road. What happened on the road? Man, 370 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Park just don't know how to act. Man, Damn. You 371 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: blame it on everybody. I think when I got old, 372 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: I got cool as head. When I started hanging around Jay, 373 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: I got cool. Jay got Jay, Prince press cool man. 374 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: So when you get around Prince, you got it. You're like, everybody, 375 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: get the room, get cool with here. Cool little little dude, 376 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: cool room, get cool. I'm too, I'm too stupid to 377 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: be scared. I said you were his favorite rapper, and 378 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: then when he met you for the first time. Y'all 379 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: had a long conversation and both of you cried during 380 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: that conversation. Nah, I think I cried because I was 381 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: scared that DMX was going to jump off of this 382 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: damn thing in Atlanta. And you know how they got 383 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: the I don't know if I don't even know the 384 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: name of this hotel, but they got the wires in 385 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: the hotel that that hold like the stuff together in there. 386 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: You can step out over the balcony and right and 387 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: JAYZ was I mean in DMX was standing on a joke. 388 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: Don't know, man, I don't think it was a joke, 389 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: but I was like, man, love, man, we need to talk. 390 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: We got down. We talked about um, religion, we talked 391 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: about the Bible, we talked about all kinds of stuff, 392 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: and at the end of the night, we prayed. Man, 393 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: we may have dropped a few tiers. I don't. I 394 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: don't remember dropping a few tiers, but if he said 395 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: we did, we did, you know. But I was more 396 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: concertained about what he was going through, you know, because 397 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: for a man to get to that point to where 398 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: he wanted to just say you but you had been 399 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: there before though, Yeah, for a man. To get to 400 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: that point where you just want like it had it 401 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: had to be something really deep going on. Did you 402 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: when you when you saw people in that same space 403 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: you were in, did you look at them and see something? Yea, 404 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: yea saw me and and and and then I say 405 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: it again because he's living right, so it to me, 406 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: it's like X. She was like face, like you wanted 407 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: the attention because you're not dead. You know you took 408 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: you took your advice and just lived as I took 409 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: my own and just lived. I know for a fact 410 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to I don't want to die. 411 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to die. Did your relationship with your 412 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: mother get better after all of this, you know, suicide 413 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: attempts and acting out in school and then becoming successful. 414 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: Me and my mama never had no problems, okay, because 415 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: I know you said you needed attention from her and 416 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: she wasn't. Really Yeah, that's when I was grown. I'm grown. 417 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm looking back and saying I didn't have their attention 418 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: from my mom. You feel it like back then, I 419 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: didn't know I wanted some attention from my mama. All 420 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: I know is my mama went to work at eight 421 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: in the morning, and sometimes I went to school and 422 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: sometimes I didn't, like I left last, you know, because 423 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: sometimes when you write a book, like I'm sure your 424 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: family members and other people who have read the book 425 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: ahead of time, ahead of it coming out, because I 426 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: just come out. So did people come to you and said, 427 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: I had no idea? You felt this way? I had 428 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: no idea. That happened pretty much. My grandmother she's eighty six, 429 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: so when she got a chance to read that, you know, 430 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: she only knew me as her baby boy. Like I'm 431 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: my grandmother's youngest child in a sense because my grandmother 432 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: raised me. And when she got a chance to read 433 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: all of that that was going on in my life, 434 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Like she was like, yeah, I had no idea. You 435 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: know when you was president of the Death Jam South, 436 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: that's one of the many things you've done. How did 437 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: that even happen? I had no idea, So that was 438 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: your idea? I thought, Okay, okay, yeah, man, I got 439 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: an idea? So mean, who were there? Who did I 440 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: have an idea? So mean? Right now, that bro, when 441 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: I did that Jam South deal, I said, that was 442 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: gonna shock the world. Remember that, I'm gonna shocked the world. Again. 443 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Was that something you enjoy doing being an executive? Yeah, okay, okay, 444 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm gonna shocked the world again. I say, man, 445 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: I had three I had three lives. Don't share that 446 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: idea right now, somebody's stilling. Hey man, still my idea. 447 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I had three lives. But I'm having three lives or 448 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: was it the streets? No? The first my first life, Okay, 449 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was looking at the second life. 450 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: I moved so fast until it was just a blur. 451 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: But nothing about it. But the third one, I'm moving 452 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: so slow and just watching the whole I'm just watching 453 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: this show. Now. They say you get nine lives. I'm 454 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: only gonna need these three. But that's only if you're 455 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: a cat, you get nine. Well, I'm yeah, the cold cat, 456 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: cold bloody cat. This third life right here, I'm seeing everything. 457 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: You know? Who? Why you and hip hop? Now? Do 458 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: you even like hip hop at the current STATEQ love Schoolboy? 459 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: Q I love Kendrick um coeture. You don't do that. 460 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no, let's start that. Caun. 461 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: We saw you on this nine no no no no 462 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no none 463 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: none nine. I love that bad Man comic. I don't 464 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: know what he said, but it's cold. That's cold to me. 465 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: Come coming, hey, that's cold man, that's raw to me. 466 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Like I like that. I love that. So it wasn't 467 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: at this because you don't know, well no, no, I 468 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: can't run with no this to not to my people. 469 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Only this would be the come on, let's get some 470 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: dish and let me did somebody, Um I just banger 471 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: like John Banger. I diss him like that's a good Um. 472 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: I would this, uh Al Sharpton, but it ain't really 473 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: much to you know, like, I can't this Al because 474 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: even though he told on some people like I still 475 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: love him. Though that cool. I mean he did a 476 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: lot for us. Man, he kind of did I could, 477 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: I could, I could dis Do you think, um, people, 478 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: how does it feel to not see so much resistance 479 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: to Southern hip hop anymore? Because when you was coming 480 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: up yeah, it was like like he was segregated, like 481 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: you can't come up here. I played, oh yeah. And 482 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: now now I come to New York and that's all 483 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I hear a sound of music across the world. I 484 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: think it's I think that's a great thing. But I 485 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: would really like to take the boundaries off of it 486 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: and just make it music, you know what I'm saying. Like, 487 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: we didn't got no, we ain't got no Southern country South. 488 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: We had well death Jam South. They put that South 489 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: on there. But I did want to run a division 490 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: of death Jam that we could put our people on 491 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: down here, because think about it, before it was that 492 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: we really didn't hear much of what was going on 493 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: down there other than like outcast or uh luke, and 494 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: you really didn't really play too much luke, you know, 495 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: but we did get Did we get some outcast up 496 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: a little bit or a lot? No? A little, a 497 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: little little? Oh? No, now mad they did? Oh man, 498 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm mad at that really. Oh you just don't boot 499 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: outcast though. But Dre, that boy three g nah many 500 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: need to stay right where he at. He got a 501 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: legend status right now he is, Yeah, he man, you 502 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: know what would kill every the game if our cast. 503 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk the great, but it's 504 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: hard to put him up there without one rap solo 505 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: out at least one. Man. Man, I don't know, Drey, 506 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: you're a great? Now what about this album you're gonna do? Uh? 507 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: I heard that you were gonna do a joint album 508 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: one time with Nas and the joint album one time 509 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: with Jade. Any of those true? Well Beans, yeah, Beans 510 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: and Nas. I was trying to do a Nas cube 511 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: basse and then the Beans in Faith, but that that 512 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: didn't have beans, had to had to chill out for 513 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: a little while. Uh. I like to do something with 514 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: g rap and uh Billy Dan's I like to you 515 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, I kind of want to do that. 516 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: I talked to Cube the other night, and and and 517 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: and we talked about it, Cube, Nads and Scarface. I 518 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: don't know if we would kill it. I think that'd 519 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: be hard. I mean, as as a hip hop fan, 520 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that. Yeah, you know yeah, and 521 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: then I'd sit down. Then we really put the beats 522 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: on it, you know, I go see Dream Marley to 523 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: get the beats. You feel me? Yeah? That? How do 524 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: you how do you grow gracefully in hip hop? Man? 525 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: Because I mean you were oldg but nobody else said 526 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: little scar Face is old old, ain't got a sad evidence. 527 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: You see this. It's there to grow gracefully and hip hop. 528 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: It's to do just enough to keep you relevant but 529 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: not too much to make you oversaturated or over publicized. 530 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, as much as I love jay Z and 531 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: as much as I love Kanye in the situation, I 532 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: just love the idea of being able to walk and 533 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: catch the subway and not be right. Yeah, okay, so 534 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: they got too much fame, baby, I mean, dude, man, 535 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: the man can't walk through the airport with his daughter 536 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: man without people snapping pictures or grabbing or you don't 537 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: like that. I don't like that, man. I love them guys. Man, 538 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: I feel like they deserve to have a privacy. You 539 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: ever feel underrated? No, no, no, I think that every 540 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: situation that that became of face Face made sure that 541 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: it happened like that, because if you, if you can 542 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: think way back, we're not way way back, but way 543 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: back like me, Jay and Yay and everybody else was 544 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: running buddies. Remember now, I kind of I don't kind 545 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: of really want to be like that. You kind of 546 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: got a little step back. I had the opportunity when 547 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: they made the switch, when when la Reid took over 548 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: Death Gym, that was probably going to be one of 549 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: the biggest opportunities in my life because I was probably 550 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: gonna get a position there because I was doing the 551 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: business with Luda and making these other movies with you 552 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I didn't want to do 553 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: it like that. I don't know, I don't, I don't. 554 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to be Zero. Got a song you 555 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: ever heard of? Zero? He's got a song called almost famous. 556 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: And that song right there kind of sums it all 557 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: up for me, Like, I love being almost famous. You famous? 558 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: You ain't almost famous? Well, I love being almost hip 559 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: and the hip hop circles you love being famously almost famous. 560 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: Hip hop circles you more than the famous. You man, 561 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: I think that my life is normal. I think that I. 562 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: I think that I go through the same thing you 563 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: guys go through. Yeah you feel Yeah, your your phone 564 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: be ringing off the hook. It's ringing off the hook. 565 00:35:50,360 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: Now mine too. You've also spoken about retiring that and 566 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: a lot of detective determined that anybody that say they're 567 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: retiring is lying from this. This is like I said before, 568 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: it's like the game. You don't retire from the game, 569 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: you just stopped playing it. You feel me like you 570 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: and we ain't got no pension anything like we were 571 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: retiring and and get social not social security. Um, retirement 572 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: from We got no wet got retirement coming. We're dead 573 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: after this, We're done. Hopefully you put yourself in a 574 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: position where you can maintain the lifestyle that you lived 575 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: when you were twenty when you're sixty. All right, So 576 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: me being the man that I am, instead of trying 577 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: to leve the lifestyle I live when I was twenty, 578 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: when I'm sixty, I just killed all that back. So 579 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: when I'm sixty, if I make it, I'm good. It 580 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: seems like you're taking cares of it. Make you wanna 581 00:36:53,640 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: get bracest. Then I got tired of being ugly girls 582 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: like dude racist for some reason. No, no, no, get 583 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: the whole stough. I swear to goodness, you gonna have 584 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: more chicks man, and gonna be like dang ye liking 585 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: it killing them with it. Now, when you were when 586 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: you were incarcerated, you you sat. I remember reporting the stories, 587 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: and it seems like you sat longer than you should have. Yeah, 588 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: why was that? He was gone? I was like, man, 589 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: I was through. Here's the thing. Well first and for 590 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: almost I'm in the county that's ran by the clan. 591 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Let me get closer. I'm in the county that's evident. 592 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: That's that's most definitely the clan, all right for one. 593 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: And then you look at the the the judicial system 594 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: and how it's set up for us any damn way, 595 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: so you know we're failing there. Yeah, So the six 596 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: months that I was supposed to do for a kid 597 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: that was already nineteen years old, that I took care 598 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: of in the beginning, turned into some totally different now. 599 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, they want to hold me for I don't 600 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: know what reason, still haven't figured that out, but I 601 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: think that that judge had a problem with me because 602 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: I was black and she was the one that didn't 603 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: want to go to school with my mama. Remember remember 604 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: when the principal family? Remember remember remember when the when 605 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: the schools uh integrated and the white kids started walking out? 606 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: In the parents book, we at that old face. Now 607 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember that part. Well, you gotta check that 608 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: in history. I bet you those are those those same 609 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: people that run the judicial system, was the ones who 610 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: walked out of the classroom, you know, the same people 611 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't charge of everything, you know. But anyway, I 612 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: got to short end of the stick for for kids 613 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: that we already took care of, and the state wants 614 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 1: to make wants to create animosity between the man, woman 615 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: and child in the black families. You know, so they did. 616 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: They did more than the mee than that what they 617 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: were supposed to. But all that's fine, and Danny, that's 618 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: behind me. I ain't man, you know, just don't you 619 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: be mad, because I'm moving on with my life, so 620 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: hopefully they can move on with theirs. I did what 621 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: I had to doing, and that's what it is. You 622 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: named yourself scar face. That was after the actual movie, right, No, 623 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: I name I named they name the public name is 624 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: scar face because of a song that I mean. I 625 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: had never watched that movie before I wrote that song. 626 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: We didn't have VCRs back then. I was always think 627 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,479 Speaker 1: of the line when J D said, a scar Face 628 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: the movie didn't I always wonder what scar Faced the 629 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: movie did to you? Scar Faced the movie. When I 630 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 1: finally to c Jay was the only one that had VCR. 631 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: He had me. I swear to goodness, I'm not prince man. 632 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: Jay had Jay had we couldn't even imagine having when 633 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: we was kids, all right, we were, And keep in mind, 634 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: Jay wasn't that much older than me. You know, I 635 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: think that if I signed. Let me see Jay is 636 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: six years older than me. Okay, six years older than me, 637 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: so when I was seventeen, right, but Jay twenty three 638 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: was like forty three the og I like the man 639 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. You know, nice spread, nice cars, 640 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: nice this is nice that you know, hard working dude 641 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: selling cars, you know what I mean? And read the 642 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: benefits from it. Uh. To see that was when I 643 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: started dreaming. To see him scarface, to see Jay started 644 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: my dream That's when my dreams started. Like this was 645 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: all attainable by somebody that was a few years older 646 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: than me, from your hood, from your area, from not 647 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: from my area, but from my six city. Were from 648 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: two different sides of the tracks, two different sides of 649 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: the city, on the north side of from the south side. 650 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: But to see that with my own eyes was very inspirational. 651 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: To mean, your original rapping name DJ Action, Okay, because 652 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: I was a DJ. If he plugged that up, I'll 653 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: bowl your mind. You ain't gonna do nothing, a little 654 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: bit like what how about you got how about you 655 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: got on it? No, I started as a DJ, and 656 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to like all of the j's that could 657 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: wrap who wanted to make sure I could bust the 658 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: like Grandmaster d. He had no chance, like he could 659 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: scratch love him to death, but rap him and scratch him. 660 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: I was gonna annihilate him. Um whatever DJs that could wrap, 661 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: I want to be way better than them, So I 662 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: focused on being in it. I think caliin might wash 663 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: you what, but I smash DJ smash Kalin. He might 664 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: be out DJ me now right now because I'm out 665 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: of practice to say something crazy. Yeah, I mean, if 666 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: Cali want to wrap, if he won't battle me now, 667 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: I love Calid man Canada to play the hugest part 668 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: of And and Me, you know, making a record again, 669 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: to make an album again, Calip was a huge yes, yeah, yeah, 670 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: God you talk about pep talk like I would love 671 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: to be in the gym with Calid you know, yeah, yeah, 672 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: yeah that's that man. I love him to death. Man. 673 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: He gave me inspiration, you know, in a whole lot 674 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: of ways. He gave me beats, you know, to exercise on. 675 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, he gave me opportunity to damn. He gave 676 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: me opportunity to um to get back and and and 677 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: and and say something. You know what I mean, Because 678 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: if you if you think about it when I first 679 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: came home. Hip hop was the first record that I 680 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: was on, you know, for somebody, and Calla sent me 681 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: a record. He was like, face, I want you to 682 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: want you to get on this record. I want you 683 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: to see what you do with it. And then I 684 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: wrote it, wrapped it and send it back to him. 685 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: I say, hey, now listen, it's totally different. You know 686 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about something else here. Sound 687 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: like I'm talking about a girl, but I'm talking about 688 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: hip hop. And he listened to any camm and he 689 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: went crazy. About five years later, no, I just playing. 690 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: But a few months later, man, Nas got on it. 691 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: And if you look on it, uh. The reaction when 692 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: I first heard Nas is versus on camera for the 693 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: world and boy, that's when it all. That's when it 694 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: all dawned on me, Like this guy is a an animal. 695 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no 696 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: no no no no I've been you're no no no 697 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 1: no no, nah no nah nah. When you know somebody, 698 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: you don't look at him like that. I look at 699 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: Nays like my partner, okay, all right, like this is 700 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: my friend, this is I call him. I look at 701 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: I look at cute like my partners too short, like 702 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm cute, chipp You don't look at 703 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: him like we look at him. That what he said now. 704 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: But when I heard I always knew he was a phenale. 705 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: But when I heard that, I was like, damn, don't 706 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: make me do this dame like a Renheal James. You know, um, 707 00:44:50,040 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: you can have her, she's a mother. Damn nasm like, 708 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this dame like a Jane. Uh, 709 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: she's yours you can have, but she's a mother. I 710 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 1: don't like. Damn. And that that those lines right there 711 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: let me know that what he was going with what 712 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: he felt like. He felt that for hip hop, but 713 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: he also felt that you feel me like when I 714 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: wrote mine like I felt that right. You know now 715 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: you talk about him being a phenome. You know you 716 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: are a phenome. Do you look at yourself and be like, 717 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm a phenome? Like I see the way that you 718 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: talk about all these other artists. If you don't, you 719 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: are giving people their flowers when they're here to smell them. 720 00:45:47,320 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: People like to call that now, Oh no, no, nah, 721 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: we we we we we were family. Man. I don't 722 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: I don't I appreciate y'all. I love y'all. I don't. 723 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to be. No, I don't want to 724 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: be no bigger than than nobody else. Man, I don't 725 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: want to be. You know. I appreciate y'all though, really 726 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: I do, because when you think about it, when you 727 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: think about it, you're like, damn uh show you my 728 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: album cover to the album, dude, you want to see 729 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: a picture. I was a little boy. You see he said, 730 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: you laugh with boxing. Man, that's Troy. Yeah, that ain't 731 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 1: you do's me. You got a book sign in tomorrow 732 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: seven pm, Powerhouse Arena in Brooklyn. The books out right now, 733 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: Diary of a Madman. When the album coming July. Man, 734 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna show up the cover and you see the cover. No, 735 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: that's the Yellow Boy. Yeah, but I'm talking about that. 736 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about cud like anybody had about a quarterspoon 737 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: about the quarterspools. Yeah, So this is the album cover. 738 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: This is the neighborhood I grew up, scar face, deeply rooted. 739 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: This is the neighborhood I grew up. That's tough, all 740 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: right to be from right here, and it's a buddy 741 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: of mine. Okay, show the camera not yet okay. For 742 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: me to be here in New York with you guys 743 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: coming from that area right there, makes me know, like, damn, bro, 744 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: anything's possible. I'm glad you didn't kill y'all. I'm glad 745 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: you didn't kill yourself. Absolutely, you mean we're glad you 746 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: didn't kill Yeah. Absolutely, Now I appreciate that, man. You 747 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: just you really, you really have no idea um because 748 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: just could have all turned out the wrong way for 749 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: me because I was one of them kids. You know 750 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 1: how you try to you know, how you see kids 751 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: you want to go back and try to say, well, 752 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: we'll try to help them. You know, I was one 753 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: of those kids. Oh sorry, yeah, I'm too goddamn cool 754 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: for school. But you see, you see those kids that, 755 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: and you want to help them, and you try to 756 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: do your best. And like I said, I was one 757 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: of those kids. And and and to be able to 758 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: to to live and to become a man, and to 759 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: learn from the mistakes that I made, you know, over 760 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 1: those years, to be sitting here like it's some picture 761 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: all right up, you know, it lets me know that 762 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't do what I was what I 763 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: thought I wanted to do. You know, but we appreciate 764 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: you for it's definitely it's big for us to have 765 00:48:52,239 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: you here. Absolutely talk about Hey, that's right, we appreciate you. 766 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: Diary of a Madman Pick it up right now, Uncle Face. 767 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: Scarf's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, I don't end