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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: flooding down the sideline. He is hanging with the boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now,

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon

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Speaker 1: Gross Thursday, Welcome to the show. You are looking live

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Speaker 1: at Tostito's Championship Plaza. The story in Frisco, Texas. It

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Speaker 1: is a It is a warm eighty seven degrees. It

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Speaker 1: feels like ninety five. The high today is gonna be

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Speaker 1: ninety six. The low tonight will be seventy six. And

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Speaker 1: we are live from the s WBC Mortgage studio inside

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Speaker 1: the Star where it's probably about seventy degrees. And we

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Speaker 1: got the band back together. Nate decided to not Big

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Speaker 1: Times today and join the show. So before we get started,

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Speaker 1: now we know why he had the fresh cut. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh the day fresh bro. He can't he can't. He

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Speaker 1: can't get clean for us, but you can get clean

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Speaker 1: for John. How did he go? How was it? It

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Speaker 1: was great? But I'm gonna tell you guys something when

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Speaker 1: I leave the show Man and then I get a

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Speaker 1: bunch of Texas about some hard Knocks y'all. I said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've never watched hard Knocks and I had to watch

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. Were you on it? Nah? I hate hard Knocks.

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks is a glorified four for Long. That's what

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Speaker 1: that is. I loved But Mike didn't you did it?

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Speaker 1: But nah, yeah, I loved it. But I'm watching all

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Speaker 1: these four frot Loan guys. We got the one and

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Speaker 1: only four frot long on the rest of the guys.

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Speaker 1: Just follow ups if you if Mike, but he's just

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Speaker 1: branded that and kept that this all this is hard Knocks.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at hard NOI will still be making money

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you can still be the turk. I

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Speaker 1: would have stepped in as another and another role. I

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Speaker 1: sting for coach role. Yew. But the man things were great,

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Speaker 1: was great. But I kept getting them texts where y'all

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Speaker 1: was texting players want to be winners. All I could

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Speaker 1: tell how I didn't want to be one of the

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Speaker 1: not off Hard Knocks. No, my wife tried to kiss me.

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Speaker 1: I don't pushing what you pushing me away? Because you

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Speaker 1: they force you to watch hard Knocks. Yeah, watching knocking

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Speaker 1: your wife, don't I love kissing on my wife now

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Speaker 1: already three minutes into the show. Already, so hard knocks.

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Speaker 1: The dru shot was cool, Yes, very cool. Jonathan Jackson

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Speaker 1: was cool, Yes, very cool now now because I had

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Speaker 1: his dad, I had, I had big out do you had.

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Speaker 1: I had both the granddad, the great granddadd of dad

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Speaker 1: and the great granddaddy, the granddaddy and the daddy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I got all four generations. No idea that he

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Speaker 1: was royalty like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew his

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Speaker 1: dad worked here, he was here. Yeah yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got him on, I got him a man. You can

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Speaker 1: see the resemblance and all of Yeah, you can see

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Speaker 1: the facial resemblance and all of them. Yeah, so and

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Speaker 1: and tray Von's kid was cool. Yeah, but you better

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Speaker 1: stop calling his daddy, calling him dad. But his first name, yeah,

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Speaker 1: catch that. That was the very first thing that I

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is daddy. I had to remind

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, is that his son or nephew.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was at first. I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: they said son, and he kept calling him by his

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Speaker 1: first name. I was like, this don't know me go

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Speaker 1: down like that in the black household. Now, fellas, you

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Speaker 1: call your mother a father by their first name, you

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Speaker 1: might get a look the first time, but if it's

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Speaker 1: a repeat behavior, you get you get the back hand

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Speaker 1: of death. Yeah, you get, you get to get a

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Speaker 1: you get to give a nickname. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, a big mom or a big daddy, but

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Speaker 1: not first name, like yo, yo, dad, Go get me

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Speaker 1: a Trayvard. Don't give me a soda, Trayvard. Don't get

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Speaker 1: me Sola. What she's saying, Trayvon. When they're in the house, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the house and on the field. I knew the

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Speaker 1: see that, but I didn't catch it. In the house.

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Speaker 1: My son wanted my attention. But one person gonna call

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Speaker 1: me daddy. You're tending, right, You tend to know, you're

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Speaker 1: tending to know your kids. Yeah, there's all the players.

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Speaker 1: hawing that, you know which one the baby that's such

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Speaker 1: such a nah, daddy, when my son when I run

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Speaker 1: and all of it, Daddy, I looked at it, my son, Trey.

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Speaker 1: I knew who it was. I heard a lot of

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Speaker 1: Nate news Dan come on, man. But anyway, that's how

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Speaker 1: we do it now. That's how we do it now.

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Speaker 1: But you ain't gonna do it a mile. This kid

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Speaker 1: come to miles, I'm saying, looking at his son, that's daddy.

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Speaker 1: I'm mister New. That's mister forth Long, that's mister Beard,

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Speaker 1: and that's the Hey and that right there's the rocks.

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Speaker 1: I promise you, I promise you. My kid ain't calling me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you start equaling your kid up with you

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Speaker 1: when he's a baby. Hey, Hey, hey Trey von get

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Speaker 1: go get me a solder, Trey VN. I'm hungry the thing.

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Speaker 1: He was abbreviating it too. He's like, hey, Trerey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no man. I'd have been a dust mop in my hospital.

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Speaker 1: That back hand with a slid you clean cloth. That

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Speaker 1: was the original room. But right there when you got smack,

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Speaker 1: just clean the dust. By me being so big, it

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Speaker 1: was always a stick. You break hands, you hit me

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Speaker 1: I was so big as a kid. This was my dad.

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Speaker 1: You had to get an accessory, yeah, yeah, skill it something.

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Speaker 1: I remember one time my mama told my mom my, mom,

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Speaker 1: will butt this tall and mam said, yeah. I had

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Speaker 1: and I had to really get him, you know, really

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Speaker 1: really will. I had to get my switch baby over here.

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Speaker 1: He switches, switches, don't do nothing over That's my brother Till,

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Speaker 1: who played in the Pro. But the Schilling, she's five

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Speaker 1: my shoe. Well, fellas, I was out at practice yesterday

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Speaker 1: and guess who else was out there? Are not throwing, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but throwing the football. I am gonna take a rush

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Speaker 1: I said two days ago when I said I was

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Speaker 1: every I know it was practice. I know they didn't

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Speaker 1: have pads on he hit. I don't think he missed

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Speaker 1: a throw. He hit every throw. And what what just

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Speaker 1: completely jumped out to me because we haven't seen him

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Speaker 1: in what three weeks? Four weeks? And you've all you've

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Speaker 1: seen with the backup guys, the gap between the talent,

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Speaker 1: just the checkdowns and the reads, and it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he goes down, we're screwed. Like he but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I tell you what. He he looked good. It didn't

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Speaker 1: look like anything was bothering him. He was doing bootlegs,

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Speaker 1: he was rolling out, He threw the long ball, he

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Speaker 1: threw the check downs. Like I it looked like he'd

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Speaker 1: been practicing the whole time. Did he do all this

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Speaker 1: stone He did all his normal side stuff as well.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, they had that quarterback you or whatever inside

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Speaker 1: that we don't get to see. So they usually do

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Speaker 1: their stuff in there when everybody else is out, kind

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Speaker 1: group stuff. Um, but he came out. He took quite

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Speaker 1: obviously a lot more plays with handoffs and things like that,

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Speaker 1: but many he looked good. Man had him twelve twelve

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Speaker 1: one of the tallest safeties. Yeah, I jumped up, but

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Speaker 1: I take it back. I worried, So you're not worried anymore.

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Speaker 1: I am worried, okay, but I'm not. I'm not as worried.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I I was. I was concerned. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm just worried now yesterday. Was it the fact that

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Speaker 1: him throw? Or was it the level of completions that

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Speaker 1: he made? Like? What what was it that took your level?

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Speaker 1: Because when someone has been out a month and they

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Speaker 1: come back right, they're gonna look a little bit more

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Speaker 1: energized and everybody else because I mean, gran fresh, you're fresh.

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Speaker 1: My concern, or what I will be looking for, is

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Speaker 1: what does day two look like? What does day three

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Speaker 1: look like? Fatigue? A little bit of fatigue right now,

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Speaker 1: once you get a little bit on your back, What

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Speaker 1: what does those what what what do those days look like?

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Speaker 1: How can we And I know that they're ramping it

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Speaker 1: up slowly, but surely, um, today they'll have a blue

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Speaker 1: scrimmage or something like that, or tomorrow or game game

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Speaker 1: game assimilation stuff like that. A game, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: they change the terminology. It's so it's a walk through.

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Speaker 1: So what is he gonna do today? Right? Are you

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Speaker 1: going to arrest him today? Are you arrest him today? So? Nah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: don't think So this is the thing that like, you

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Speaker 1: get excited for one day and I want to see, well,

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Speaker 1: what happens next? Like can we get two days in

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Speaker 1: a row of twelve to fifteen passage? We get three

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Speaker 1: days in a row twelve to fifteen passes? For? Like,

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Speaker 1: how will this thing break down? As we head into

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Speaker 1: September ninth? Fred, He's gonna be fresh. Yesterday was you know,

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Speaker 1: he's excited, he's happy, and maybe you know, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that all the throws were there. But now I want

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Speaker 1: to see what is the next phase? Yeah, that that'

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Speaker 1: lesson my worry. He ready? I mean you think he's

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Speaker 1: He ready, he is ready. He's getting into this sixt

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Speaker 1: this seventeen. He got a change the day they rapped him.

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Speaker 1: They ramped him. He's good. He's been practicing. We've been

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Speaker 1: seeing before every preseason game, he's been throwing. He like

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Speaker 1: you said, Yes, they ramped him and he's ready. They

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Speaker 1: went through Okay, what is it gonna be back? Be

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Speaker 1: like after a couple of days of throwing in the road.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been through that. You you cannot. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that I've been thinking about. You cannot

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Speaker 1: be a week out, two weeks out, and and if

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Speaker 1: they still have that question, something is way wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: If you have that question right now, If you said

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Speaker 1: they're gonna take three weeks, if you call the Rangers,

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Speaker 1: the Astros and everybody with a bitching staff to find

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Speaker 1: out how to do this, and everybody agreed, and you

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Speaker 1: at that three week mark, then you got a week

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Speaker 1: and a half left and you asking questions. That means

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Speaker 1: something is wrong with Dak. That means that his lord

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Speaker 1: body is not compliant to help his upper body, because

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Speaker 1: that's all the injury is basically from that. Just my assessment.

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Speaker 1: I am not a trainard doctor, but most guys, when

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Speaker 1: Dak became who he is, his lord body, stop connecting

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Speaker 1: with his upper body. And you know, as a shooter,

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Speaker 1: how much your legs mean to your upper body as

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Speaker 1: the game go on, you get as you fatigued. And

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Speaker 1: a good radio broadcaster. Listen to him in late June

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Speaker 1: and July. You know if he's good when football hadn't started,

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Speaker 1: basketball is over and you're in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: bad dog, a bad team. Whoa you're gonna find Eric

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Speaker 1: nadel I'm glad you're in the Hall of Fame. Goes you,

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Speaker 1: good brother, You are good because when you can make

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Speaker 1: the Rangers sound good, Eric Nadale is good brother. All right,

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Speaker 1: question I posed before we went to break yesterday, it

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Speaker 1: just alarm bells went off. How much better Dak is

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Speaker 1: than second, third, four stream guy? And I was watching

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Speaker 1: Dak just pick the defense apart. Boom boom, boom boom.

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Speaker 1: It made me think, if you're on defense, obviously you're

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Speaker 1: covering your guy right, you're you're which you can tell

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Speaker 1: if you wrap the guy up even if he catches

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Speaker 1: a ball, if you were in good position, and if

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Speaker 1: you if if it's just a hell of a throw

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Speaker 1: and a hell of a catch and you couldn't Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you just can't guard that. But I'm gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: and go ahead, and just I want to say something

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Speaker 1: REQUI go ahead, or you see you right on target?

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Speaker 1: But I think after watching yesterday's practice, it just went

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Speaker 1: off to me, like, are these guys because if if

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Speaker 1: your third or four string guy throws it and it's

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Speaker 1: not anywhere close, you're not getting in there and fighting

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Speaker 1: for the ball. You're not using your body to knock

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Speaker 1: a guy off a route, You're not using position because

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00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: the balls five yards away right right right. How big

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Speaker 1: of an impact that is Dak being out going to

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Speaker 1: affect your linebackers, your dbs, your safeties or is that

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Speaker 1: just they get all that working one on ones. Let

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Speaker 1: me say this first. Okay, when you have a Maori

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Speaker 1: CD lamb and gallup those guys working with him, right,

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Speaker 1: and you have Zeke, all of a sudden, it picks

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Speaker 1: up the competition Dak Breede competition he won his players

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Speaker 1: in a certain splay. So these guys are running routes

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Speaker 1: even Crisp Borough and better because they ain't got to compensate.

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Speaker 1: They know they've been working all together. So now it

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Speaker 1: picks up. So my question now, Jess, is when you

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Speaker 1: get in the game as a DV and you just

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Speaker 1: got picked apart all week because of the quarterback situation,

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Speaker 1: how far do they have to go to get there

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Speaker 1: to understand that Tom Brady is that type of guy,

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Speaker 1: that the next guy is that type of guy, that

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Speaker 1: these receivers are those type of guy, not not like

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Speaker 1: I received. I receives a different level. So I'm saying

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Speaker 1: to myself as the offensive line, they don't take us

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Speaker 1: long because we boom boom boom, and we're getting schnotted

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Speaker 1: and bloody quick. But as receiver versus and you see

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Speaker 1: quality versus just quantity our defense, to me, it's quantity

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Speaker 1: our offense is quality. How about? And just real quick,

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Speaker 1: CD wasn't out there because he's in protocol. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I saw gallup yesterday. Did he practice? Maybe he

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Speaker 1: was out there and I just didn't see him. All

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Speaker 1: five of those guys are good when it comes to that. So, Nate,

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Speaker 1: it's biblical. Why Okay, okay, okay, it's biblical. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for this. Yeah, right of twenty seventeen says what

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Speaker 1: iron Shopper's iron? That's right. So the only way that

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Speaker 1: my top guys get better is by going up against

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Speaker 1: top guys when you don't have Dak in the mix.

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Speaker 1: And you heard even Mike McCarthy talk about it. He

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Speaker 1: talked about being able to go full playbook with Cooper Rush,

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Gilbert, these other guys. So if he can't

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Speaker 1: go full playbook, then our defense isn't getting the quite

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Speaker 1: of a great the quality of a great look that

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Speaker 1: they necessarily will need when they face mister seven rings

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Speaker 1: September ninth. When Dak is out there, there's a different level.

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Speaker 1: And you know this, Nate, when Troy was under center,

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Speaker 1: when Troy was in the huddle, opposed when Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: was in the huddle, it hit different. When Doc is

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Speaker 1: in the huddle, the command is different. Now I have

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Speaker 1: the I have the limitless possibility to call whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: When I used to get into the huddle with Tony

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Speaker 1: opposed to getting into the huddle with um what's his name?

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Speaker 1: Steve from A and l oh Steve Steve McGee, I

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Speaker 1: ran routes differently because I knew, Yeah, I knew what

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Speaker 1: Steve what I knew. He wouldn't go through it like

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Speaker 1: you got. You got a twenty yard dig. Steve ain't

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Speaker 1: throwing his twenty yards. I'm gonna run it, but I

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna run it with the anticipation that the ball

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Speaker 1: might come even though the covering said that the ball

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Speaker 1: should come here. When the Tony was in there, I

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Speaker 1: knew Tony understood and saw the same things that I saw.

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Speaker 1: And those type of quarterbacks. I'm going to where the

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Speaker 1: ball is supposed to go, and even when it ain't

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Speaker 1: supposed to go there. I got so much trust in

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Speaker 1: nineteen and eighty eight, in thirteen and twenty one, I'm

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Speaker 1: still gonna throw it because I believe my man is

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Speaker 1: a little bit better than your man. Now, how does

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Speaker 1: that affect our defense? We got a guy in Kelvin Joseph,

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Speaker 1: We got a guy in in Trey. Like his sons say,

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Speaker 1: who still need reps? They still need reps. We don't have.

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Speaker 1: You know, Anthony Brown still needs reps. Jordan Lewis still

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Speaker 1: need reps. There's a ton of guys defensively that still

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Speaker 1: need the quality reps. And what you get is you

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Speaker 1: get a false sense of security when you have a

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Speaker 1: Cooper rush, when you have a Garrett Gilbert throwing majority

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Speaker 1: of the balls in practice, because what seems like, now

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Speaker 1: I got this because the dude back there is three

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand opposed. So when the dude who forty million,

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Speaker 1: those stores are a little bit different. The timing is different,

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Speaker 1: the accuracy is different, the anticipation is different. Now you're

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Speaker 1: on your piece, and Q's always because I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: it in there, and Amari knows that, and and Coop knows,

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Speaker 1: m Coop knows that, and CD knows and so our defense,

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Speaker 1: to your point, isn't getting the even our young linebackers.

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Speaker 1: When that kind of line screws. Oh oh, check check

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Speaker 1: check check check Roger Roger, Roger, Roger, Louie Louis, Louis Louis.

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Speaker 1: Louis kill kill, kill kill, And he says it with

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Speaker 1: a level of comment because I've seen that look. I

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Speaker 1: know what that look is. I know where to go

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Speaker 1: with the ball. I know where to go with the football.

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Speaker 1: I know where we're supposed to go. I know where

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Speaker 1: the tyle to make us right, even though the play

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Speaker 1: call might have put us in a bad situation. Now

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Speaker 1: that makes the defense a little bit more now, like, oh, dang,

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Speaker 1: I gotta disguise that more because that called me out

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Speaker 1: on that, and he picked me apart on that. You

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Speaker 1: don't get that when you deal with the second and

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Speaker 1: third string. Gud. Those guys they just trying to survive.

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00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: They just trying to survive. They ain't trying to they

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Speaker 1: ain't trying to screw it up. And once again, that's

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Speaker 1: why I hate hard knocks, because all I see if negative.

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Speaker 1: The first interception. When they went to coaching McCarthy, he

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Speaker 1: didn't say God, offensive line, he didn't say guy Lee Lyar.

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Speaker 1: He said Gilbert Gilbert. Because everybody in the stadium knew

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Speaker 1: you dropped back, you scanned, you shuffled up, you looked

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Speaker 1: around again, and you gave up a full second sack.

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Speaker 1: How you got a running back standing over there. You

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Speaker 1: got guys crossing wide open in front of you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so is the back holding the ball like that

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Speaker 1: bro with the obviously the receiver's defensive backs. It's a

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Speaker 1: big difference from the quarterback end is in there? Is it?

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Speaker 1: What is it for lineman? I mean, are you the

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00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: same thing? Same thing? LC looked around, like that dude ran,

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Speaker 1: You ran the hunk. The dude ran the hunk. He

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Speaker 1: with him, He took three four extra steps with him

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Speaker 1: on one hand, and the dude still got a sack

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Speaker 1: of LC Like, okay, I gave up a sack, but wow,

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Speaker 1: four seconds and you can't make up your mind. So

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00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: it affects the offensive line, yes, sir, timing and things

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00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: like everything, man, everything, because everybody, everybody, there's an internal

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Speaker 1: clock in everybody's head. And everybody said, you know, as

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Speaker 1: a lineman, as a running back, as a receiver, as

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Speaker 1: a tight end, you know, you know what the route

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Speaker 1: concept is you when name was blocking them, blocking, blocking, blocking,

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Speaker 1: it gets you a certain point in time. He like, man,

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Speaker 1: shoot that ball should be going to somebody should be running. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now I gotta find something maybe downfield. But if

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Speaker 1: you're still chasing it and all of a sudden, now

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Speaker 1: he turned them loose and look for some other work

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Speaker 1: somewhere else, and you're still in the pocket. Ain't throw

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Speaker 1: the ball yet. Yeah, it's gonna look bad on me.

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Speaker 1: O n news man beating about the edge. Oh you

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Speaker 1: got to let the ball go, Son Gold in the stats,

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Speaker 1: we live to sit up the down and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what it's. It's even it even comes down, like

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Speaker 1: if you haven't noticed, I'm not a football player, believe

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Speaker 1: it or not. I don't suit up in practice with

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Speaker 1: those guys. But I could even tell the little nuances,

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Speaker 1: like I could anticipate the snap count with Gilbert and

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Speaker 1: Rush they get down, they had a certain cadence. They

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Speaker 1: would they would look, they would do this, and I

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Speaker 1: could be like, because I'm filming with my phone, I

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Speaker 1: could be like, I know exactly when to start it. Boom.

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Speaker 1: That's when Dad gets up there. It's different. He gets down,

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Speaker 1: he stops, he stands up, he backs up, he points,

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Speaker 1: he moves, he gets back down, and he might stand

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Speaker 1: back up, or he might just go real quick. Like

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Speaker 1: even little bitty things that most people don't pick up on,

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Speaker 1: Like that's even different. I mean, so just something that

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Speaker 1: popped in my head. And that's why that's why Nate

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Speaker 1: and I both harp so much about him practicing. Yes,

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00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: because all those little things added together, that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: the whole and when you do and again, Dak may

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Speaker 1: go out there and I'll use practice today for example,

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Speaker 1: he was eleven of twelve and everything went right. But

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00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: who's say in a tight game that that eleventh play

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00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: is the one that you need, the one that you missed,

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00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: the one that you missed in practice because of whatever.

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00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, somebody miss something somewhere and it happens. Now

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00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: not it happens. I know people will say, well, it

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00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: happens Aaron Rodgers, and it does. It happens to Timber

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00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: and it does. But that's the thing that you want

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Speaker 1: to eliminate. That's the things that you want to take

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00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: out of the equation, the mess ups from. You have

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00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: some unavoidable things that will happen, but there's something that

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00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: you can avoid happening. And when you're able to eliminate

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Speaker 1: those from repetition. That's what Dak has. He has. He

609
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: has a wealth of repetition. That's why he can get

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Speaker 1: in there and be so comfortable to another guy. It

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00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: is like, we ain't going on two, we ain't going

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Speaker 1: on three. We just it's gonna be set hut. Let's

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00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: let's because their minds are just focused on Let let

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Speaker 1: me just get the play off. I just want to

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00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: positive play, you know what I'm saying. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to go right from me right here. I don't have

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00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: the knowledge or the time, well even the confidence to

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00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: do all this other jazz that you see Dak doing.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I harped so much on practice. Not

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Speaker 1: a game now any talking about a game? No, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about talk about practice. But yeah, all right, let's

622
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: take our last break. When we come back, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about this is the last week before cuts? Cuts are

624
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: what Tuesday at four pm Central time? Is that correct? So?

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00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: Who do we who do we see kind of on

626
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: the bubble? And you guys have both guys have lived

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00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: on the bubble, lived on the bubble, and Nate, you

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00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: lived on the bubble in the beginning of your career.

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Speaker 1: What was that week like? And can you do anything

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Speaker 1: as a player in this game or are all the

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00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: decisions already made for these guys? Twisting, turning pumping, jumping,

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Speaker 1: and guccin. Let's go. Hey, you with the boys, We'll

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Speaker 1: be a no, says Chris. All right, before we get

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Speaker 1: into you y'all's experience as players, gives a YouTube. What's

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Speaker 1: Hower experience as players. By the way, since we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about bubble guys and rookies. Your guy, uh

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Speaker 1: Bo Hannah, he's looking good, man, he had he's bowing up.

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Speaker 1: He had growing great practice yesterday when they were doing

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Speaker 1: this ones. He looked really good. And your Bill Cox

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Speaker 1: just the quiet, quiet assassins just moving up that den chart.

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Speaker 1: Didn't I tell y'alls like Nombo? I asked, Will? I said, Will,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said, Will. What are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: when you when you not let these veterans play and

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Speaker 1: they remember and the jabril Cocks of the world start

699
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Speaker 1: moving up because they assuring you, even though it's preseason,

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Speaker 1: that they can adapt and learn your system. What do

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Speaker 1: you do then, and you drafted them, Well, well we're

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Speaker 1: gonna kind of have to play them, I said, be

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Speaker 1: careful now, as these guys, that's when they're going to

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Speaker 1: move up. That's when, as Will McClay, that's when the

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Speaker 1: goots get the jumping. Yeah. As a scout, as a

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Speaker 1: head scout ump, that's when the Jews, you start seeing

707
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Speaker 1: the guys that you just scouted takeover. Yeah, goots get

708
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Speaker 1: the jump, especially a guy you got in the third

709
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Speaker 1: round that the guy didn't think where you were gonna get.

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Speaker 1: The other guys you scouted in drafted too. That's old news. Baby.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you only good as your last draft class. Baby,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. When you let the scouts

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Speaker 1: do the work, then you then it. You get together

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Speaker 1: a scout and you do all the groundwork. But you

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Speaker 1: have the least mind to say when of coach say

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Speaker 1: I like him, Well, we're gonna let the coach make

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Speaker 1: the decision. But no, this scout knows some things and

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Speaker 1: have researched some things. How about going with the scout

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Speaker 1: for a change. That's tough and the reason why that's

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Speaker 1: tough and it's it's it's a it's a double edged sword,

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Speaker 1: right because everybody's supposed to do a job. It's like

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to have a relationship with said coach, Like

723
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Speaker 1: this year the Cowboys were heavy on defense, so I'm

724
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Speaker 1: going to jump out of the window and said that.

725
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Speaker 1: There were plenty of conversations between Will McClay and DQ

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn and dan Quinn is saying all right, Will,

727
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Speaker 1: here's what I'm looking for. I want them fat, I

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Speaker 1: want them greasy, I want them loggy, tall, rangy, long arms.

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Speaker 1: Will take that information, takes it back to his lab.

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Speaker 1: He gets with his his counter parks and say, all right,

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Speaker 1: here's what coach wants fat, greasy, long, loggy, long long,

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Speaker 1: All right, I want that D D D. Here you go,

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Speaker 1: here's your list, and they put that into an equation

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Speaker 1: and then they send these guys out all across the

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Speaker 1: nation to find said players. Right now, Once I bring

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Speaker 1: you what you asked for, you then can't tell the

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Speaker 1: coach who to play, not who to play, or who

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Speaker 1: to pick, or which one is the pick, because I

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Speaker 1: brought you. Will's job. Will's job is to basic the girls,

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Speaker 1: bring you, Hamilton, bring you these guys. Right. But if

741
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Speaker 1: all of these guys what you told me to go get,

742
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Speaker 1: then I'll have an issue with that. But it was

743
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Speaker 1: you that say, do the complete scouting job where we

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Speaker 1: did with Tristan Hill, and then you got Tristan Hill

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Speaker 1: versus another guy. And Tristan Hill has his history that's

746
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Speaker 1: not agree with what you're trying to present. Nah, you know,

747
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Speaker 1: nah the scout. Yeah. When the scout says nah, you

748
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Speaker 1: might want this big greasy guy. But this is the

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Speaker 1: issue behind this. But this is just a little cheese. Tonight.

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Speaker 1: They're airing war rooms right six o'clock, Blue war Rooms.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to watch that. I think I think

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Speaker 1: that is a perfect example of what happens, is that

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Speaker 1: the football collective minds get in this room and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have some nuts on this side of the table,

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Speaker 1: someone on that side of the table, and to say

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Speaker 1: I want this, I want that, I want this, I

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Speaker 1: want that. And at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 1: just hope that you are able to put together enough

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Speaker 1: of the great minds because they if I'm Will and

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Speaker 1: I bring you this guy, he brought you bull right.

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Speaker 1: I done my job. Okay, because if if, if, if

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Speaker 1: Will was going to guy and and he should have

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Speaker 1: been defendmental. It all goes together, it all. This is

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is Taco Charlton for as good as

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Speaker 1: he looked and as nice as he's dressed. I was

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Speaker 1: working at the other enemy radio station. I can't call

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Speaker 1: their numbers because they're not our flagship. As soon as

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Speaker 1: we heard that, and I said, okay, Nate, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about I told you what I thought about it.

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Speaker 1: He had to learn it's taking four years to be

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Speaker 1: a football player in Michigan. I don't know abouty's speed.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling these folks that on radio. And the

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Speaker 1: first thing when Will McClay got up there and said,

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Speaker 1: in front of all of the world, worse more ways

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Speaker 1: should rush the pastor than with speed? Ain't that's the

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Speaker 1: number one thing? But some coach wanted this who we

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Speaker 1: need to run stopping? We don't need the kid with

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stellers. Oh do rush the past? We'll can't get

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Speaker 1: up here and say but real, but Will wanted that guy,

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Speaker 1: so we get no, no, no. If my understanding on

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Speaker 1: tacchar that was more of a coaches pick, right, that's

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Speaker 1: what he said. What I'm saying, so you can't let

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Speaker 1: Who's a gqu design dresser and not a past. That's

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Speaker 1: the way the cookie crumbles. That time, for the first

786
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Speaker 1: time ever, I'm gonna ask you to back away from

787
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Speaker 1: the mic a little bit. But like that, that's the

788
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Speaker 1: way the cookie crumble. Sometimes it breaks down to it

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Speaker 1: where and we'll have to get up there and I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna go out there with that dude. Man,

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Speaker 1: it just walk. But we'll have to. Will has to

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Speaker 1: save face for the organization and say, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: there's more way understand understood that because we'll kick it

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Speaker 1: up there. But be like I didn't want that. Sorry

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Speaker 1: mother anyway, who we'll can't say that, but my god,

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Speaker 1: the hell god, I'm not saying that I understand the

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Speaker 1: etiquets is that for announce right of of how to

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Speaker 1: handle it, you know, even when even the next once

799
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Speaker 1: I said that on air when I cut over here

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Speaker 1: the next day we did what do you think about taco?

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Speaker 1: And I repeat it with Wills the whereas war the

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Speaker 1: one the way to rush the bas I repeated it,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about the cowboys, but do not like like

804
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Speaker 1: like Armstrong. The next year we went they got Armstrong.

805
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, this dude can rush the passer. And I

806
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: saw in college when they where they change your defense

807
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: and asked this kid to do something else. This kid

808
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great rotation player for us, because

809
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Speaker 1: now we got coaches that realize that boom boom, he's

810
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Speaker 1: got to go. They showed a kid on Hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: number ninety three, where where d laws begging it? Man?

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Speaker 1: Use your speed? He never used it. You saw him

813
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Speaker 1: just jog off the ball. He never cut Lucy used

814
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Speaker 1: the speed. I'm with you, Jess, I'm with you. But

815
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Speaker 1: when when when you tell a scout I'm a long

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Speaker 1: athletic range you guys, and they gonna get that, you know.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, Let's just because I want to

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Speaker 1: get to this. Let's let's let's move a little bit

819
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Speaker 1: to one. Give me go around, go around the horn.

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Speaker 1: Give me one guy that you're gonna be interested, interested

821
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Speaker 1: to see if he makes the team or not, that

822
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Speaker 1: you think is a bubble guy that could or could

823
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Speaker 1: not make the team. This is crazy with him because

824
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Speaker 1: it tie in sinky and sinky. I'm not changing because

825
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Speaker 1: I got to do a show tie and sink. Yeah,

826
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Speaker 1: that's who I'm calling him, and that's what I'm sticking

827
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Speaker 1: to so I won't stumble up and mess up my

828
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Speaker 1: shoulder and Dad, I gotta do next. Okay, So even

829
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Speaker 1: that wrong, that dude, Yeah, even if I'm wrong, Coyle

830
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Speaker 1: have been wrong before anyway. You didn't like Patty this guy, ever,

831
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Speaker 1: don't let me say this right because between him and

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Speaker 1: Terrence Steell we gotta find a swing tackle and we

833
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Speaker 1: can't have two bad guys, right, you know we we

834
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Speaker 1: don't know who to back up center is. You know

835
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Speaker 1: it's Williams. But that's it's out now. Yeah, but covid,

836
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Speaker 1: who's your guy? Didn't need all the snaps? Who's your guy?

837
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Speaker 1: Um for a bubble guy? Yeah? Who You're gonna be

838
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Speaker 1: interested to see if they make it or not. I'm

839
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Speaker 1: gonna see you. I'm up because I started and having

840
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: a relationship with him earlier in this his process. Send

841
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: me for Hookul. That's my guy because he was running

842
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: with the one yesterday. That's that's receiver. And they did

843
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: some nice things. You can they drafted him and I

844
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: know they like him. But that that that room is crowded, man,

845
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: that room is real crowded. I don't know what kind

846
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: of special teams guy is, but I have a feeling

847
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: I've been type of feeling trying to text him and

848
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: tell him home, you got to you gotta do something.

849
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: You gotta bang on you gotta bang on the That's

850
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna be that after Kurt gets done. That's

851
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: gonna be my next question. Kurt, who's your who's your guy,

852
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: you cheated. You looked at the roster? Wow, I could

853
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: I just trying to remember guys. Um Well, I think

854
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: it's they're now in an interesting position because doubt all

855
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: the third running backs out for the year. Are they

856
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: gonna keep a third running back or a fullback or

857
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: a fullback? Round? It's Ralston done enough to can you

858
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: help on special teams? That kind of thing? So plaano guy? Right? Guy?

859
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: So um Or you know that they featured Jaquan Hardy

860
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: in the last Hard Knocks. You hope you saw that, Nate, Yeah,

861
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that guy, his thin knocked out. Yeah,

862
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: the repects, Yeah, I mean he showed, he showed why

863
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: he was a free agent. He follows, he falls on

864
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: the ground, his contacts come out. That's why, Man, to me,

865
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: I got sold. That's when I got pissed off. Was

866
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: skip accent sound well? Cool? Yeah? I ain't want to

867
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: come out of the game. I love a game so

868
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: much too. When they threw in the pass, I couldn't

869
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: see the ball. Okay, you want to order in draft?

870
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: My wife like, oh that's too bad. I see this

871
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: is is a candidate to be cut. I just don't

872
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: like that. Man, it made him look like a I'm

873
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: into me seeing that that makes me mad, Like, what

874
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: do you? What are you thinking about the other guy

875
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: that featured the you tell about the number sixty? Look,

876
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: we have spent way too much. I'm on hard knocks.

877
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: This is not a hard number recap show. Who are

878
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: you see me? Out? Just said, thanks for listening, Curtie. Okay,

879
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: moving on to the next step. I'm just saying, man,

880
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: you brought it up the next topic. Can guys do anything?

881
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: You guys have both been there. Can you do anything

882
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: in this last game to make this team Jesse's career

883
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: or are the decisions? Are they already made? No? What

884
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: can the guys do for the people that aren't familiar.

885
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: You can pick up an two yard punt and take

886
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: it back for a touchdown and win a game so

887
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: that you can have four special teams tackles, and then

888
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: pick up a punt and run it back eighty two

889
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: yards for a touchdown and make it and then have

890
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: three catches for twenty seven yards and make a football

891
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: team at least make the practice squad. The things this

892
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: whole week for these guys. Does it ramp up summer?

893
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: Does it get a little chippy. I mean, how are

894
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: the you get more edge or they're nervous. I mean,

895
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: you want to go into this last week with a

896
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: positive with positive affirmation and positive words attached to your

897
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: name every single time a coach goes into a meeting

898
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: because you don't know what's on that like yeah, we

899
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: know Dak Dike, we know those guys right that those

900
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: get them off the board, they're done. But when they

901
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: go into that meeting, I want nothing but positive things.

902
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that I've earned when you this word

903
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: before and the last six months a sponsor, and that

904
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: comes to attitude, habits being around the facility, or you're

905
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: a team guy, personality, all that stuff. And I'm not

906
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: bringing up hard knocks, but hard knocks showed you when

907
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: they when they go into a meeting. I'm not what

908
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it showed you when you go into a meeting.

909
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: Who's all in the meetings. Everybody scouts, coaches, scouts, coaches,

910
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: trained equipment, doctors. So when your name comes up, you

911
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: want somebody saying, you want Brown to say, man, you

912
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: know what. I know he was hurt early and training camp,

913
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: but this dude showed up every single morning seven o'clock

914
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: on the dot. He trained his butt off to get

915
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: back on that field. And then you want the way

916
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: coaches and black man shoot, he got an off season,

917
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: the workout the world, This leadership was crazy this offseason.

918
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Then you want this physical to say, man, you know what.

919
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: He might have had some days where it didn't look

920
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: like it, but I promise you he showed up every

921
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: single meeting. He was a tent of He asked questions

922
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: after practice. He was working like you want a list

923
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: of people to say your name in a positive manner

924
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: as much as they possibly can, so that when you

925
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: get to that moment that they say why are you laughing?

926
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: Late because the coach you can say, I understand what

927
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: you said. With practice squad, I'm telling you that's where

928
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: they goes. You know one hundred and six thousand to

929
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: be on practice squad just said why I felt one

930
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: hundred forty nine. I mean your first couple of years

931
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: in the league, you were I mean you were cut.

932
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: I got cut and then and then I came back

933
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: and made it. This is the thing about it. It's

934
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: when what you can't do on a consistent basis, and

935
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't like what they did with that kid.

936
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: You're talking about the running back. Okay, his contact came out, Okay,

937
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: his enthusiasm for the game, Okay, it overshadowed the smartest.

938
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: But then the next four clips they showed him dropping

939
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: the ball and the coach asking, and you can't you

940
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: know that right, there's killing you. That ain't help you.

941
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: That's killing you because you heard Skip say if I'm

942
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback, I ain't throwing you the ball no more

943
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: so when they go into that meeting, guess what the

944
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: quarterback coach said, Well, we throw them the ball through

945
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: it four times. Well, I mean that's on him. But

946
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying is I'm agreeing what you're saying

947
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: is somebody got to have confidence in you, and you

948
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: gotta when somebody shows that confidence like that, like a

949
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: coach came to me, Jim Murkin back. You know I

950
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: was on the bubble, Jim Murkin back. I was a starter,

951
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: but I kind of was on the bubble with coach.

952
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: Coach Landry's Joan merken Back comes in and said, look

953
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: at him, man, this guy can play. Let me get

954
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: him through the preseason, let me get him going, let

955
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: me get him some confidence. So you had a sponsor, Yeah,

956
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: come on, man, the same thing I did. I had

957
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Jody Camillus. Yeah, you gotta have one. Jody Camillus was

958
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: always saying like Jody Camillas would be screaming in practice,

959
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: this is the guy that you wanted to count. This

960
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: is what he will be saying. Yeah, I have a feeling.

961
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: Joe didn't say it in those exact words, because Joe Joe,

962
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: he would language, but he would. He would come to

963
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: me just like just like your your coach and here black, listen,

964
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: here's what I need from you today. Yeah, listen, let'ten.

965
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: Hear me, hear me out go when we get to

966
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: this period, I need you disruptive as hell, like I

967
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: need you to test some stuff up. And he's like,

968
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: trust me, because now when he went in the meeting,

969
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: he can go, look, oh look, yeah, look this we

970
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: still do you know what I'm saying. And then when

971
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: I got called up, it was the same thing. He

972
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: called me the night the night before I got called up,

973
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: he called me and just simply said to me, you ready.

974
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, He's like, I'll see you in the morning.

975
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: I get in the morning, I'm up and he's like

976
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, don't don't make me wrong. And so

977
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 1: having a guy like that on your on your team.

978
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: And again, I was always a guy who was on time.

979
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: I showed up, I practiced hard every single day. I

980
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: gave great looks. But it doesn't hurt one bit to

981
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: have a guy in that meeting room who got a

982
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: little bit of Say so, you know, my guy was

983
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: a special teams guy, so he was head of that department.

984
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: To god, I'm like, hey, now what we had number

985
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: forty eight? I got a guy. I know we were

986
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: rounding this rousted off. I got a guy all right,

987
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: real quick to close up, to close out the show.

988
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: I have a question observation from the last two days

989
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: of practice. It was not three when they started practicing yesterday.

990
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: It was ninety one the practice before. And we're situated

991
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: now in between two really tall glass buildings, and so

992
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: you're getting sun from above, behind, and in front of you,

993
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: and it's probably ten extra degrees on that field, and

994
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: it is everywhere else. And then there's an AstroTurf up

995
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: against that other building half of it, and then it

996
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: turns to the grass field, and if you're close to

997
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: that AstroTurf, it's probably another fifteen degrees over there, so

998
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: it's probably well over one hundred on that field. And

999
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: did wear did you wear a hoodie whenever you Yeah?

1000
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: My theory is because there's several guys that wear sweatpants.

1001
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: I think Zeke had two sweatshirts on a lot of

1002
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: guys wear hoodies. Is it a conditioning thing or is

1003
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: it a pride thing? Like when the guy when it's

1004
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: fifteen degrees and the guys walk out without sleeves on,

1005
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: it's like it's hot, I'm gonna make it hotter because

1006
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm the alpha. I'm gonna sweat. Or

1007
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: is it a conditioning thing or is it just a

1008
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: preference for the fat guys? Is probably a lose weight thing, right,

1009
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: a lose weight thing, but actually or fashion? No, when

1010
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: you cover first of all, when you cover up, you'd

1011
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: be amazed. When you cover up, you're actually cooler because

1012
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: the sweat, and then it'll win because the sun is

1013
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: not like beating on your skin. Skin cancers real two fellas. Yeah,

1014
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: but when you watch most of the guys, like when

1015
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: you look at like, but a hoodie construction guys, but

1016
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: a hoodie and construction guys always have, Yeah, but not

1017
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: a hoodie. But it's not a like sweatshirt. Yeah. But

1018
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: the thing like with Zeke, Zeke doesn't get many reps

1019
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: in practice, so he's trying to get a good sweat,

1020
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: and then you want to get a good sweat like

1021
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: that's the one thing about when you start practicing. Once

1022
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: I get that good sweat, I get lighted up. I'm

1023
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm loose. I'm loose. My goot is loose. My goots

1024
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: get loose, I can flow better. Some twisting, pumping and

1025
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: jumping when ye why don't you get lighting up that twisting, humping,

1026
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: pumping and jumping. Well, that's an end or Kirk. That

1027
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: good being there. Good, thanks for being there, Jesse, thanks

1028
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: for bringing it. Nate, thanks for being here today. It

1029
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: was good to have you back. Chris, thanks for keeping

1030
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: us on the air. William, thanks for keeping the live

1031
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: streams up. We will be back when we on the

1032
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: air again. Monday Monday US we back to Monday to

1033
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: Monday will be Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Next week. We're coming

1034
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: up on y'all. Y'all you know who I'm talking about

1035
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: specific time. Yeah, thirty nine. They don't want that. They

1036
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: don't want that. There we go. Yeah, football game this

1037
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: see on your tail, gooching up on you. We gooching

1038
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: up on your baby show to recap the game on Monday.

1039
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, we'll be back Monday nine thirty. Twisting, humping, pumping, jumping.

1040
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: This has been hanging with the Boys Knocks. This has

1041
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,640
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1042
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,400
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