WEBVTT - Just Say No to... Bottled Water

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Chuck and there's Jerry, and this is stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know. Unscrew the caps and glug it down. Addition, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. And you know what I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>say the outset here. Uh, now, no, we have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm gonna say, Um that we are

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<v Speaker 1>using a well it's from Julia Layton, actually, one of

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<v Speaker 1>our writers, but it's from an old how Stuff Works article. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say old, I mean that it's from

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five or six or so old unbottled water. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is old, but I mean I think that

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<v Speaker 1>most of the stuff in here is still true from

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<v Speaker 1>skucking in and researching further. But what it did do

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<v Speaker 1>was provide an interesting look at statistics, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to get updated statistics on how much bottled

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<v Speaker 1>water we use and how big the industry's And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really amazing though, just to have sort of a before

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<v Speaker 1>after picture from two thousand six to now two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I saw stats from like twenty and twenty one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a tad bit of growth since two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>six in that industry. Yeah, I think like one statue

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<v Speaker 1>she cites, and we're gonna go through all this. But

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<v Speaker 1>just as an example, is seven billion gallons of bottled

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<v Speaker 1>water we're consumed by Americans in two thousand five, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got from twenty nineteen that is I'm sorry, that

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<v Speaker 1>is now fifteen billion gallons. That is a tremendous increase

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<v Speaker 1>in bottled water gallons per American, per year, per American,

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<v Speaker 1>includes dumb babies. It's a lot of water. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's better then if we were if we

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<v Speaker 1>had decided to all start drinking like that much high

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<v Speaker 1>fruit toast corn syrup every year. But there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of there's a lot of problems with bottled water, as

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, and maybe some you can't quite imagine yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna go over all that. We're gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you the ins and out to bottled water. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>please forgive us. This is kind of an old article.

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<v Speaker 1>I I that what perked my ears up, Chuck, is

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<v Speaker 1>that she referred to bottled waters new fangled. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, people who who drink bottled water just think

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<v Speaker 1>they're so fancy, and I was like, this seems old.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems like an old way of looking at well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it is interesting because I think that was true

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and then I think we're to point

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<v Speaker 1>now ino where there's a large portion of America that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to get bottled water at all anymore and

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to use like single plastic, single use plastics like this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are also still a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go and you see him, like loading

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<v Speaker 1>up by the caseful to stock their house. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see an emergency stash of something maybe, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>talking like, let me give you an example. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tread carefully, uh, because this is a person in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. Not your life, but our lives, mine and

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<v Speaker 1>Emily's lives. But we have a human in our life

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<v Speaker 1>that came to see us and I bought a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, and when we did like, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to the grocery store for the week. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>they went with us and they bought they wanted to buy,

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<v Speaker 1>like a case of bottle of water. We're like, oh no, no, no, please,

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<v Speaker 1>don't trying to tread carefully though, you know, we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we got really good filtration, good water. It's good, good good. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said that they're on a thing where they

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<v Speaker 1>have to drink so much water. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, uh, and we have a good filtration system here. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were like, well, it really helps me keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with how much I'm drink king if I do

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<v Speaker 1>it per bottle. And Emily just looked at me like

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<v Speaker 1>she's just like, just shut up, you know. She gave

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<v Speaker 1>me that look, and I did. But it was really

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating to know that it's not any easier to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up than drinking a glass of water. Yeah, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how much. I wonder how much. Also though that person

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<v Speaker 1>like really just felt like bottled water was healthier or

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<v Speaker 1>pure or whatever, and it wasn't. It was more than

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<v Speaker 1>just that. Who knows. I don't know. The reason they

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<v Speaker 1>gave though, was keeping up with it, Like they lined

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<v Speaker 1>the bottles up at the end of every day and

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<v Speaker 1>like shot them with a six shooter that's right right

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<v Speaker 1>into the ocean. They drove him out to that. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a personal frustration and I'm trying. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>try not to like just live on my soapbox in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. But suffice it to say, I I really

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<v Speaker 1>don't like bottled water, and I try to. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the light, and I will only get bottled water if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a real, real pinch and have to. If

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's pinching you and they're like, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>up until you buy bottled water, you do it. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes when you got a kid, you're stuck

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and you're like, you know, you have to hydrate

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<v Speaker 1>your child. You're like, oh God, I gotta get this

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<v Speaker 1>bottled water, and I hate it. You're out of high

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<v Speaker 1>freak toast corn, sir, right uh, And and then try to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at least like, at least let me get

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<v Speaker 1>like spring water or something. But when the only option

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<v Speaker 1>is and we'll get to all this is just like

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<v Speaker 1>purified bottled tap water. I just wanna crawl under the rug. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>come out from under the rug, Chuckley. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about bottled water, so I just wanted to level set.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, Okay, I think you did that pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little a little history about bottled water. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And this comes to us from our friends over at

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<v Speaker 1>Serious Eats this part's interesting. I thought so too. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>bottled water has been around I saw somewhere since the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth century in America. Certainly in the mid nineteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>there were people bottling water and selling them and usually

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<v Speaker 1>it was like as a remedy. It was a healthy thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would buy them at like spas or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's definitely the origin of bottle water. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>perry A. You know, I'm I'm sure you remember when

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<v Speaker 1>we were kids that before like bottle water was as

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<v Speaker 1>we know, it was such a big thing. Perry A

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<v Speaker 1>was something you started seeing ads for on TV and

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<v Speaker 1>in magazines. That was just I think they were smart

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<v Speaker 1>enough to brand it early on, or not early on

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I mean they've been around since the mid

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds, but early on in the seventies and eighties

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<v Speaker 1>in America of like, you know, a fancy schmancy thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Yeah, the Patrick Bateman types really slurped it

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<v Speaker 1>down right. Yeah, But that was that was because of

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<v Speaker 1>a rebranding that they did a hundred and twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>after they started selling this stuff here in America. They

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<v Speaker 1>hired Orson Wells, They got People magazine to write about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just became like a thing, and it really dovetailed with

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of health consciousness that was starting to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blossom among baby boomers, who were again all Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Bateman type still are, and so Harry became like the

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<v Speaker 1>first bottled water that America kind of became obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like aspirational, it was expensive, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a status symbol, plain and simple. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until Coke and Pepsi really got into the game that

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<v Speaker 1>it became like the thing that it is now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Pepsi got in first in ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>with their aquafine a brand, and I think Coke for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and I think Coke for a while it's like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the soda game and we don't want this

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<v Speaker 1>water thing cutting into our soda business because I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were scared by Perry because they were also marketing

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<v Speaker 1>it as an alternative soda, like a healthy alternative. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Pepsi started crushing it, and then Coke was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't have that. No, so they launched a sani,

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<v Speaker 1>which apparently means it means nothing. It's just supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>evoke like um, a kind of like a refreshing, pure

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<v Speaker 1>since they ation I guess, I guess um or sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>a clean, fresh taste that a Coke spokesperson back in

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineties early two thousand's um. And then that

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<v Speaker 1>also set off a huge consolidation rush where there I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the brands that you know today a bottled

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<v Speaker 1>water like Arrowhead and Poland Springs and Deer Park, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been around since the mid nineteenth century. They got snatched

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<v Speaker 1>up by all these larger brands are consolidated. Um. When

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<v Speaker 1>people started to say, yeah, we'll drink bottle of water,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember very clearly in the late nineties early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, there was a big cultural um discussion, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but also kind of chiding of people who drank bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of water because people like to point out, like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that stuff is coming out of the tap somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just purified. And after all that, after the whole

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<v Speaker 1>discussion was done, America said, you know what we want,

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<v Speaker 1>bottle water. That's what we're going to drink. And in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seventeen it became the most consumed beverage in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire United State. Eats bottled water. Yeah, Wow, how

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<v Speaker 1>about more than more than coffee. And I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>my part to keep coffee up there statistically speaking, and

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<v Speaker 1>it still beats coffee, still beats coke, beats everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Bottled water beer beats beer. Yeah, yeah, bottled beer or

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<v Speaker 1>canned beer. Crazy. Uh yeah, it's hard to believe, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of what's happened here. Um. Julia points

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<v Speaker 1>out that there are a few reasons, and you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>them a little bit with my mystery guests that some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other reasons people might drink bottle water is

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<v Speaker 1>they think it might be healthier or more pure, or

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<v Speaker 1>they might just think it tastes better than tap water,

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<v Speaker 1>which actually could be the case. There's uh, certainly some

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<v Speaker 1>funky tasting tapwater in America, depending on where you live,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, definitely, and there's a lot of people who, um,

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<v Speaker 1>who like kind of take the opposite tack there, Like

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<v Speaker 1>America has some of the best, cleanest, safest drinking water

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and in some parts of America it's

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<v Speaker 1>just straight up amazing. Like remember our episode on the

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<v Speaker 1>New York City's water delivery system and just how amazingly

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<v Speaker 1>good New York City tap water is. Like in some

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<v Speaker 1>places there are like the local tap water is what

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<v Speaker 1>they sell as spring water basically. Um, so some people

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<v Speaker 1>have it better than others, but in general, people who

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<v Speaker 1>drink tap water kind of they just take a certain

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<v Speaker 1>tact towards bottle water, like you're dummy for drinking that,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make any sense, whereas people with bottle waters, say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're drinking poison right out of your kitchen sink. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe you would do that to yourself in your family.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's kind of like a disconnect there between those

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<v Speaker 1>two groups. Yeah, and to be sure, we are not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about I mean there are some My my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Dave Barnhardt is a documentary filmmaker who um has

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<v Speaker 1>made a documentary on the water in Flint, Michigan. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about places where the tapwaters like legit

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous and it's aimful that that kind of thing goes

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<v Speaker 1>on in this country these days. So we're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. We're talking about garden variety tap water that's

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<v Speaker 1>generally pretty safe. Um, Florida's got some funky water to

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, egg water. Yeah, well I went to uh

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<v Speaker 1>my Disney World trip, I got some pretty funky egg

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<v Speaker 1>water there. Yes, it can be funky. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just funky to drink, it's funky to bathe in. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny to be like in the same city as it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's funky stuff. For those of you have never

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<v Speaker 1>experienced egg water, it's called that because it smells a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like rotten eggs. It's got a lot of sulfur

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<v Speaker 1>content in it. Totally safe, nothing's wrong with it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it may even bestow some health benefits compared to water

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<v Speaker 1>that has a lower sulfur content. Interesting. The upshot of

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's funky, and it smells bad, and it

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<v Speaker 1>tastes bad, and you don't really want that. But unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>there are some parts of Florida that do have that

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<v Speaker 1>as their tap water. Now, can you get a filtration

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<v Speaker 1>system that actually gets rid of that taste? If you

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<v Speaker 1>do have that coming here for sure? If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of everything, you just get a reverse

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<v Speaker 1>osmosis system, so simple as that. The problem is it

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<v Speaker 1>takes out everything, So there's beneficial stuff and water you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want to take out magnesium, potassium, um, calcium,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably a bunch of other little micro nutrients and

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<v Speaker 1>minerals too. That we don't even know about yet. Reverse

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<v Speaker 1>osmosis takes everything out, which we talked about. We did

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of water purification episode not too long ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was our water treatment. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. Okay, so in reverse I think we also

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<v Speaker 1>do one specifically on reverse osmosis too, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it takes everything out. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get everything out, just get a reverse osmosis system and

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<v Speaker 1>you're fine. You should be the spokesperson. That's pretty tight. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't personally believe in reverse osmosis systems. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it takes too much out and you just have pure water,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the water that we drink is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have a little more in there. This would make

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible ad for reverse osmosis. The second part way

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, Uh, Julia, And is again from two thousand five,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is when this was around. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting to look back at. You know, Bottle labeling

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<v Speaker 1>is a big thing and you can put a I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you can't lie on a water bottle out right,

0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>but you can get really generous with how far you

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<v Speaker 1>stretch things. Uh. And there was a company. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>around anymore called Alaska Water at one point that said

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<v Speaker 1>Alaska Premium Glacier drinking water, pure glacier water from the

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<v Speaker 1>last unpolluted frontier, and it came literally from Juneo, Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>tap water. Yeah, the municipal supply. Yeah, which I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is uh, you know, if you trace it back, it

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<v Speaker 1>might come originally from the last unpolluted frontier. Sure. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's certainly a certain there's a bit of legitimacy to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's dishonest still. Yeah, there's there was also

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<v Speaker 1>one called Glacier clear Water UM that until two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>two was owned by the Dairy Farmers of America in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, Missouri. That was sourced in Greenville, Tennessee. So

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<v Speaker 1>it had nothing to do with glaciers. Like there may

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<v Speaker 1>have been glacial activity at the last Ice Age around

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<v Speaker 1>that part of Tennessee maybe, but the water in Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>was not coming from any glacial activity um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that that really made the rounds in the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousands and made people who were into bottle

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<v Speaker 1>water look like idiots. Um. But again, even through that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gauntlet that bottled water drinkers that Americans in

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<v Speaker 1>general had to go through on the other side, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the propensity for for bottled water was not beaten out

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<v Speaker 1>of us, it was, it just got even more homed.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's it's strange that that happened, that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a pushback on the whole thing, and then that

0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:52.200
<v Speaker 1>pushback just got totally overwhelmed. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think before we break, maybe we should at least

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<v Speaker 1>go over the kinds of bottled water that the f

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<v Speaker 1>d A like the terms the FDA regulates. Yes, at

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<v Speaker 1>least Okay, Uh, we should start with artesian It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great sounding word. It sounds very fancy, and that means

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<v Speaker 1>it comes from an artesian well, which means it comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a confined aquifer, which is a porous rocket's underground

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<v Speaker 1>and it comes from porous rock or sand formations. That. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's under a lot of pressure from these layers of

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<v Speaker 1>rock or clay and it forces that water up. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we might have talked about artesian water, but maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way in the last fourteen years we've never

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned artesian water, you know. I think so there's also

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<v Speaker 1>mineral water, mineral water, Yeah, I do too. A lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Mineral water is just water that has a higher um

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<v Speaker 1>higher content of total dissolved solids, which sounds gross, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can be gross, for sure, but it's more talking

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<v Speaker 1>about things like I mentioned earlier, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that gives water taste, distinctive taste, and in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>mineral water taste. UM. So, I think the standard because

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<v Speaker 1>you said the FDA regulate system. We'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>that in a little bit, but the FDA standards that

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<v Speaker 1>to be mineral water has to be spring water that

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<v Speaker 1>has at least two parts per million of total dissolved solids.

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<v Speaker 1>Regular old spring water, non mineral water has fifty. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference that your tongue can pick up on. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you got your naturally sparkling, sparkling water. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is yes, folks, there is water that comes from

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<v Speaker 1>a spring or an artesian well that is naturally carbonated.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if they take that carbonation out and then

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<v Speaker 1>put it back in, according to the FDA, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to recarbonate it to the levels that it once was

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<v Speaker 1>naturally to qualify for that language. Yeah, And I went

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<v Speaker 1>and looked, and I was sad to see that my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Sam Pellegrino water. It uh, it is artificially carbonated

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact, and that's sad because I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>into this and apparently um natural carbonation, which like volcano

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<v Speaker 1>is heating the rock that the that holds the aquifer

0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and it turns the carbon into a gas, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's naturally carbonated. Apparently it's much softer, less harsh on

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<v Speaker 1>the throat and the stomach. Um. But it's really really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to keep water carbonated and then get it to market.

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<v Speaker 1>So they take the water out and then recarbonated and

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<v Speaker 1>then sell it. So it's really hard to find naturally

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<v Speaker 1>carbonated water. And I think it's very expensive too. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that Tobo Chico. I don't believe that that is

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<v Speaker 1>naturally carbonated. I I'm sure it's probably not because it

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<v Speaker 1>is good, though I agree it makes me sneeze every

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<v Speaker 1>time I drink it. But that comes to a glass bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>It tickles your nose, it does, and we don't buy

0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.080
<v Speaker 1>cases in cases of it. It's a treat, yeah, and

0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it does come in a glass bottle. But Chuck, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen you. You You have a ritual where every time you

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<v Speaker 1>finish off a bottle of smash it on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and shout say yahoo. Yeah. And sometimes I'll smash it

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<v Speaker 1>against like something hard it and then hold the broken

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<v Speaker 1>bottleneck in my hand and you can't tempt anyone to

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<v Speaker 1>come at me. Yeah, you'll say, any takers. Uh, never

0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 1>had any takers either, he knows you never have. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very menacing. What else we got. We got the purified

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<v Speaker 1>water I was talking about. And this is when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the dissanis and the aquafinas. Is when they

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<v Speaker 1>take public tap water uh and they purify it. It

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<v Speaker 1>comes from in other words, of municipal water source. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's pretty much the long and short of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, if you're talking about pure water, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like the most artificial water. It's the most heavily

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<v Speaker 1>treated water, because yeah, you're taking tap water and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're bottling it and selling it. And the FDA says, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some things you have to do if you're selling

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<v Speaker 1>purified water. It has to be if you're selling it

0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:51.159
<v Speaker 1>from like a municipal source. Um. You you have to

0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.600
<v Speaker 1>either filter it, you have to distill it. You have

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to run it through that old reverse osmosis. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to take some oxygen and subjected to electricity and create

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<v Speaker 1>ozone and then infuse the water with that. So it

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<v Speaker 1>goes and reacts with all the stuff in there and

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<v Speaker 1>and UM purifies it, or you could run it through

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<v Speaker 1>UV light treatment or some combination of that. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what purified water is. And as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't realize this chuck. But you can buy and

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<v Speaker 1>I could not find what labels this was, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy water that was originally nonpotable water, meaning like

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<v Speaker 1>you should not be drinking this is not for human consumption.

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<v Speaker 1>UM that can be treated through these these ways and

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes it can be bottled and sold as purified

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<v Speaker 1>water because the end result is the same. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>devoid of anything but water molecules. Yeah, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into the different f d A versus

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<v Speaker 1>e p A standards, because e p A s who

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 1>regulates your tap water. But I believe that e p

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<v Speaker 1>A standard or the FDA standard for bottled water allows

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<v Speaker 1>more poop in your water than the e p A

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<v Speaker 1>does in your tap water. Right, Yeah, The e p

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<v Speaker 1>A says you can have zero poop in your water,

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<v Speaker 1>and the FDA says, hey, hey, this relax a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's take our hang ups off of the American public.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, what's wrong with a little poop in your water? Right? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got spring water, which I love. Uh. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>better than if you can drink directly from a spring

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<v Speaker 1>when you're hiking in the woods, cupped in your hand,

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<v Speaker 1>like Daniel Boone did. Just the best thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes from a protected underwater spring and it flows

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<v Speaker 1>to the surface on its own. It just bubbles right

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<v Speaker 1>up there. It's a really a wonderful sight to behold

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 1>if you've never seen a natural spring. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. And then it's collected there at the

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<v Speaker 1>surface in the case of bottling, or maybe they may

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<v Speaker 1>drill down if they can't get, you know, to the surface,

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's like a sanitary, protected area that it's drilled

0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.360
<v Speaker 1>down to where what's feeding the spring. Like they might

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<v Speaker 1>just go to an area that's more accessible, I guess, uh.

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.959
<v Speaker 1>And then but if they do that, though, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to have it has to be the same composition as

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<v Speaker 1>as it does from the source. Yes, Hey, I'm gonna

0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 1>put three words together, and you try to convince me

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that they don't evoke an image of a future medical kink, sanitary,

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:17.440
<v Speaker 1>protected whole and that awful and then an awful collection

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of words. Uh yeah, it's uh yeah, that could be

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<v Speaker 1>the album new album title for Diarrhea Planet. I guess so,

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of the opposite of a diarrhea planet

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>if you think about it. Yeah, I think that's the twist. Yeah, hey,

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 1>diarrhea Planet. I hope you guys are still doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, then you got well water is the last

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<v Speaker 1>one before we go to our break, and that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a well it does. Simple simple. It's a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm testing out because I've been using easy peasy too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you just say simple fimple? Yeah, but really you could.

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.879
<v Speaker 1>You could make anything. You could use any consonant or

0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:02.640
<v Speaker 1>combination for simple, pimp. That's kind of gross. You could

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:07.119
<v Speaker 1>say simple simple, I guess, but that's unnecessarily complex. I

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>like easy beasy, lemon squeezy. Yeah, I do too, But again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's starting to kind of take off a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna go elsewhere. All right, simple simple, We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. Stuck stucks in. That sucks. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you know it. Stuck and Stuck. It's a

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>great name. That's the name of it. It's a great name. Alright,

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Stucks net within with an X. I want to learn

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.480
<v Speaker 1>about a rosortic college act, how to take the perfect

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but with all about fractals, getting kiscon that's the hun

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the Lizzie Border murders that they kind of all runs

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>on the plane everything we should know. Word up, Jerry. Alright, Chuck. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, the FDA regulates bottled water, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a quirk of bureaucracy that it does. It

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<v Speaker 1>would make way more sense that the e p A does,

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<v Speaker 1>But the e p A says, no, we're too busy

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<v Speaker 1>concentrating on drinking water and our standards. F DA, you

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>go handle this, And the FDA says, that makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>because we're going to consider bottled water a packaged food,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I can't remember what episode we talked about

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>it in, but that's why water has an expiration date

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>because it's considered a package food, and all packaged foods

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 1>have to have an expiration date, even though water is

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>never really going to expire, right, So the FDA is

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>in charge of regulating bottled water and they do a

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<v Speaker 1>so so job of it. Yeah. I think the deal

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<v Speaker 1>is is the f d A considers bottled water low

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the categorized as as low risk. Yeah, so just a presumption. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess that I don't know. I guess that

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>lets them internally off the hook for I mean, I'm

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sure surely it shouldn't be as robust as like pharmaceuticals

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>or something. I'm not saying that, but uh, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>categorize it as low risk. Uh they It says that

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it must come from a roof source. But that doesn't

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>mean it's not like the f d A goes out

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.199
<v Speaker 1>to the spring in Tennessee or whatever to check it

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>out or anything like that. Right, No, they definitely do not. They. Um,

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>they say it has to come from you know, one

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of these like an archiesian well, it has to come

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>from well water, it has to come from municipal water,

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<v Speaker 1>like all those those sources that we mentioned. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, right um, and by the way, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to actually put on your label what kind of water

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<v Speaker 1>this is? Like those aren't just like like you know,

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.959
<v Speaker 1>categories like those are terms that you will see on

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a bottled water label because by law, they have to

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>say what kind of water, it is right. And and

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>then further than that, like they have kind of sub

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>regulations for the different kinds of water, Like if it's

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:50.239
<v Speaker 1>from a spring or something like that, Um, I think

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.199
<v Speaker 1>they they they has to be tested like once a

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 1>week or something to make sure it's sanitary. Um. That's

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>another one. If it comes from a from municipal water,

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>it has to go through that filtrition process like we said. Um.

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And then also if you add anything to the water,

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>because remember I was saying reverse osmosis chuck is like

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it takes everything out pure the water purification does well.

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>They usually add some stuff in to give that water flavor. Again,

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>if it's like that, say like they put they fortify

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it with protein molecules or chunks of fat or something

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's got to say in the label it

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>contains chunks of fat or with ad fat is probably

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>how the marketing team would want them to say it.

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And like a starburst you know on the label. Uh. Interestingly,

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.959
<v Speaker 1>fluoride is uh. When we did an episode on Florida

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that was jeez, I feel like one of our earlier

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.479
<v Speaker 1>year one or two episodes definitely the fluoridation of our

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>drinking water in the United States, um bottled water is

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>not fluoridated, so uh. Some dentists have talked about the

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>fact that if you only drink bottled water in your house,

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>then you're avoiding that fluoridation that they think you need

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to make your teeth strong. Yeah, so if they if

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>it's bottled water with added fluoride, like I think a

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of baby water, that's the thing. Is there baby water? Yeah?

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I think there's like Gerber bottled water for babies and

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I think those things usually have added fluoride.

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's gonna say it on the on the label.

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>If you don't see on the label with added fluoride

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, that's not a thing. Why has

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>no one, I'm sure this will happen at some point.

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Why has no one tried to collect rainwater and market

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>that as like, you know, Icelandic rainwater bottled up. I

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.120
<v Speaker 1>would bet you a hundred dollars someone has you think?

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Sure gotta be because I was thinking, like when I said, like,

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>what other water sources are there? Obviously there's the ocean

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, but it's like, well, I guess

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>there's rainwater, and why hasn't someone you know touted that

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 1>as like the next big thing. I mean, it's supposed

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>to be some of the purest water you can get

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>your hands on is rainwater, which is surprising but true.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>They don't know because it's come out of the sky,

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and the sky is poisoned all of us obviously, Yeah,

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you would call it though, you call it skywater s

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>k y e with like an um loud over everything. Right. Um.

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I hope it didn't give someone an idea. I again,

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I think somebody's probably done that, all right. So the

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>FDA also says there's just certain amounts of stuff you

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>can have it there. Again, poop, you can have a

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of poop, bacteria, virus, is, parasites, you can

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>have a certain amount of raid on in there. You're

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a certain amount of lead in there. That's actually,

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that's actually right. That's actually one place where the f

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>d A exceeds the e p A standards is with lead.

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>The FDA says you have to have a much lower

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>amount of lead in your bottled water than the FDA

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>allows for because the or the e p A allows

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>for in tap water. Because a lot of the pipes

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in the United States have lead in them, and supposedly

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>as long as your local water supply is not over

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>chlorinated or being overtreated, that the water won't corrode the

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>lead and very little lead will be brought to your tap.

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So the e p A says, some leads going to

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>be in your water just by virtue of flowing through

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>these pipes. And the FDA says, well, this stuff is

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be flowing through pipes, or if it

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>did flow through pipes, it has to be so so

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>well filtered that there there should be almost no lead

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>in it whatsoever. But other than that, the e p

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>A usually beats the f d A. Right, Yeah, and

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>then you know this is the federal standards. Then your

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>different state and may or may not have h state

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>regulations for the industry. Uh. Some states don't have anything

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>at all going on. Some states are going to be

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a little more strict obviously, uh, and say like you

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>have to have a license, you have to submit to

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>inspections of that kind of thing. Um. So if you're

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're out there thinking what is one

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to do, then it sounds like the wild West. There

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>is a voluntary body, the International Bottled Water Association, UH,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>The good news is is that I believe, and this

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>is an old number, but I bet it's still pretty

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>accurate that about of the bottled water in the US

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>is a member of the i b w A and

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>they have their own internal, like self enforced regulations as

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>far as you know, it's called I believe the i

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>w B A model code. Uh. And you know they

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about, you know, all the filtration types and all

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the disinfecting that you have to do and stuff like that. Yeah,

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and like really they really stepped up their game with

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the Let's get the poop out campaign of two thousand

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>thirteen really had a big effect on the industry. Right.

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>But to be clear, this is not like a body

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that like impostes fines or stuff like that. It's all

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.479
<v Speaker 1>just sort of self regulated and voluntary. Yeah. It's like,

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>um ooh, man, what episode we're talking about where it's like,

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling this is the industry getting out

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>ahead of a problem, like problem legislation that's going to

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>make them do stuff. I remember, I don't either, but

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a feelings. And I think anytime you see

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>an industry coming up with its own voluntary regulations, it's

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of um, uh pr stuff, you know what

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I did, but they I mean, they do

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>have these standards and they do have um, you know,

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>certification you can get through them. Um. But yeah, again,

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's voluntary. And like you said, like if if

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you are not selling water from state to state, technically

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the FDA does not have jurisdiction over you as long

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>as you're only selling within your state's boundaries, as long

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>as the source of this water comes entirely from within

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that state's boundaries. And then if that state is one

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of those I think seven or eleven states that don't

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>regulate bottled water, there's no one looking over your shoulder whatsoever.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Your water is totally unregulated. It falls in a weird

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>little loophole like what that part in Yellowstone Park that

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>supposedly has no laws on it or whatever. That's kind

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>of like that situation. But then I saw that there's

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a way that the FDA can still get you if

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>your packaging was made in another state, any part of it.

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>You're now subject to full FDA oversight for your bottle

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of water, interstate uh whatever, packaging. Yeah, I guess so

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>should we. I think we should talk about leaching some

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like leaching is something that is kind

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>of just started to come around in the past like

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>six or seven years, which is the idea that wait

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a minute, we have all this bottle water stored in

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the garage, cases and cases of it stored in our

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>hot garage in Arizona. Is that bad for you? And

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the answers is yes, it is. Uh. Leeching happens the

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can, we'll get into all the different

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>kinds of plastics, but um, mainly what you're gonna find

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>is polycarbonate. You're gonna find PVC, and you're gonna find

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>polly styrene. And you know, back in the day, there

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>were some people that said, like, oh, it's really fine,

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it's no big deal. Other people would say, well, we're

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>really not sure. And other people would say, no, if

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you heat up a bottle that has uh, how's it

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>pronounced thay lates, th lights, lights, thals, p h t

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>h A l a t e s, everyone knows what

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>those are. Um that it's it's gonna be leaching chemicals

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>into your water, especially if it stays warm, especially if

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it's stored for a long long time. And I read

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>recently and this is something I would do if I, uh,

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>if I like had to get a bottle of water

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>like in a pinch like I was talking about, I

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>would say, all right, at least I'm gonna keep this

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>bottle and like refill it for as long as possible. Uh.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>They said that that's not a good thing to do either,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>because multiple reuses will encourage leaching, which I didn't know, right,

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So did you mention the two eighteen study at all? Not?

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So this this article, this is like a little time

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>capsule because chuck in it. They quote a guy from

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the PG Research Foundation who basically says, it's all good,

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>We're fine. And I went and looked it up. I'm like,

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that sounds really fishy. Where they get their funding? What

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>is the PG stand for? Their defunct They came along

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>in just long enough to tell everybody that plastic was fine,

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and now they're defunct, so it's even fishier. I couldn't

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>find any funding stuff like that. But since then, um,

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>that suspicion that now there's some sort of like leaching

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>going on and that's probably bad for us has finally

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>been quantified. There's a two thou eighteen study in Frontiers

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and Chemistry and in the study, two fifty nine different

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>bottle water sold in eleven different countries were tested, and

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>then what they found is like, of no surprise whatsoever

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>had micro plastics in them. And I suspect the other

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>seven percent, like they screwed up the testing, Like I

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>can't believe it's not a hundred percent of these bottle

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>waters have a microplastics. Yeah, this is uh. If you

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>want to read the original article, it's really good. It's

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>from Time magazine. Your bottle water probably has plastic in it?

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Should you worry? By markham Hyde. I guess, And it's

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>from May of twenty nineteen, and yeah, it's definitely. It's

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely good to see like a real source in a

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>real study and not just a defunct organization. That's like

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good. Yeah, it's fine, don't worry about it.

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>So in this um they found that there's a substantial

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>amount of microplastics. And this's not like little trace amounts.

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Remember like the parts per million or parts per billion

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of some of the stuff that the f D A

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>H and E p A allows in bottle water and

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>tap water. The average among these two nine bottle waters

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>was three D and twenty five particles per leader of microplastics. Yeah,

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that's seems like a lot. Okay, if that seems like

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot, buckling for this one. Nestlee Pure Life bottled

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>water had an average of ten thousand particles per leader

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of microplastics. You might say, okay, let's fine and get

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a little plastic in my teeth, like pull it out,

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Um, microplastics are becoming uh, it's becoming clear

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that microplastics are probably endocrine disruptors. I think they fall

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>into a class called obeseagen's and polypropylene in particular seems

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to be an endoc endocrine disruptor. And you'll never guess

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>what our bottled water, what type of plastic our bottled

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>water bottles are made out of? That? Yes, polypropylene. So

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>this seems to be one of those things where everybody's like, yeah,

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>we don't understand it, so it's probably fine. And now

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>we're finally getting to the science where it's like, man,

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 1>microplastics are really screwing us up. And even worse than

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just being in our bottled water, they're everywhere. Like we

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>have a an episode do where we just talk about microplastics. Okay, yeah,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a break here. In a sec. But I

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>think to set us up for the next part, which

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>is the environmental nightmare, which is just the bottles themselves,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>like after you drink it in the environment, because we're

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 1>talking about like drinking the water itself. Uh, And we'll

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>get into the nightmare of after you've had that water

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in the single use plastic aspect in a sec after

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the break. But microplastics I read basically that plastic water

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>bottles don't break down at all. When they say like, oh,

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.959
<v Speaker 1>it takes some five years to break down, they don't

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>break down. They basically say that they just break apart

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 1>in the microplastics, and that microplastic ironically will end up

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>in the water supply, which could ensure one day that

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.439
<v Speaker 1>we can only drink things like bottled water because there's

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>so much microplastic in the water supply on the plastic

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>water bottles that people drank that never break down. Isn't

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that amazing full circles, such a beautiful circle of life

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that we've got going on? All Right, we'll take that

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>break and we'll we'll talk more about single use plastic

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and why that's such a problem. Right for this stuck

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>stuck in home, I don't know that you know it.

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Stuck in this it's a great name. That's the name

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of it. It's a great name, alright, stuck within with

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>an X I want to learn about as how to

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>take a perfect but with all about fractals and kiscon

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the hun the Lizzie Border murders that they kind

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of all runs on the plane everything that we should know.

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>No word up, Jerry, Okay, Chuck. So we're talking about

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>single use plastic, which means you take a bottled water,

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you drink the water, and then you just toss the

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>plastic bottle. Apparently, if we've come a long way in recycling,

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>it used to be something like ten percent of bottled

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>water bottles were recycled back when this article was first written.

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Now we're up to all my in the US, uh,

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>specifically because Norway recycles of their plastic okay, and then

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so part of the problem with that, if you'll remember

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>back to our Recycle Update episode, China recently said, you

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>know what, you can take all your dirty plastic bottles

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and shove them because we're not going to recycle them

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>for you anymore, which is a big problem because recycling

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.720
<v Speaker 1>plastic can be actually fairly expensive. In China was basically

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 1>the world's plastic recycler for a long time. So now

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>people are trying to figure out how to how to

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>handle this issue, which has now become even more pronounced um.

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of where we are right now, while

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>America is at the same time in the world, frankly

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>stepping up to UM use even more plastic water bottles

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>than ever. Yeah, there is one alternative that I've seen

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>being used here and there. It's corn based. It's called

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>p l A or pole. It's made from polylactic acid uh,

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and it is biodegradable, uh, compostable three months to degrade

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>in a compost pile. But here's the fine print. It

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds great, and I saw that, you know, a major

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>fancy schmancy hotel chain, you know, made the big switch

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and had made a big to do about this. It like,

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>now we use corn bass and it's compostable, but it's

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>only compostable if you compost it. And even the head

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of the hotel chain was like, yeah, we found that

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>very little actually makes it to the compost pile. UM,

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's not it's not recyclable, like if you throw

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it in the recycling p l A will mess up

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't even take much for it to to

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>really mess up the uh, the other kinds of plastic

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're recycling. So they just dump it all and yeah,

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean exactly, and or they try and sending it

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 1>on a boat to China and that's a long long way.

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>That's an environmental nightmare. So you know, be aware if

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you see corn based biodegradable plastic. Uh, unless you know,

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you really take it upon yourself to compost it, then

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 1>you're you're doing the right thing, good for you. But

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>very it says, very little of this stuff ever makes

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 1>it to the compost. Yes, so there's like fifty of

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>our of our previous episode just hanging around here, like

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>our episode on soda or episode I'm recycling, or episode

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and composting, our episode on plastics, remember the Great Pacific

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>garbage patch we talked about plastic never breaking down. That's all.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>They're all showing up for a friendly hello, our episode

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>on diarrhea Planet. That's right, which, by the way, we

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>should just explain real quick. Oh, there's probably a lot

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>of people they're like, what are you talking about? Because

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a random reference years ago. They're a band,

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Diarrhea Planet, and they're great, and I'm a big fan,

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and I just always thought that they should change their name.

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's why we're It's a callback from years ago,

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 1>and I think you should fill them in in case

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>they don't stumble across the episode where that appeared. And

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>what did you say they should change their name to. Yeah,

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what brought the whole thing up. Frozen

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>poop knife. Oh, that's right. You remember somebody made a

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 1>knife out of the poop and killed a bear or

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>an interloper or like an evil brother in law. I

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, And that's what brought the whole thing up. Yeah,

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they're great though, they're they're from Nashville, and uh, I

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know that we've ever heard from them, but that

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>we did, they rejected our publicly, our suggestion publicly on Twitter.

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, man, I gotta fill you in on

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>the last thirteen years. You're you're getting blank. So just

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to kind of button this up about the single use plastic,

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>like it is a problem everybody and it's just one

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of those things like our trash also did a landfill

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.959
<v Speaker 1>episode that we just kind of put out of sight.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And out of mind. But that doesn't mean it just

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>disappears and goes away. So fortunately, one of the things

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people are thinking of who think

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>about this kind of stuff is something that has made

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>sense for a long time. But in our Littering episode,

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we talked about how there was a huge corporate push

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to basically say, you're the litter bug. You the person

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>using it. We the people who are making this plastic

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 1>packaging and who are um using it to sell you

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>our products, and it's not our fault. Finally, finally, some

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>people in legislatures are calling bs on that, and there's

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>something called extended producer responsibility laws. Yeah, me too. Uh,

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>they're thinking of them in Washington State, Maine, and Michigan,

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and it basically says you have to figure out, like

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>you are responsible for dealing with the packaging waste that

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>your product is solding. You don't just get to walk

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>away from it. And I think they're trying to figure

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>out how to make that happen. But the fact that

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>they're even talking about this stuff is another example that

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>we're starting to wake up. Finally, that's amazing, that's cool.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I think of hearing that I do too, Chuck. Will

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>it make a difference. Stay tuned. I should shout out

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>my friends film. By the way, I just realized, like

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Dave's one of my very best friends. Uh, you want

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to watch that documentary. It's very eye opening. Uh. And

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it is called Flint The Poisoning of an American City. Uh.

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>And boy, if you want to, if you want your

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>eyes opened about you know, the fact that it can

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>be you know that you're in the twenties and that

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>we're still just like pumping poison water to a to

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>a town astounding rates, then you should check it out. Yeah,

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to check that one out. I'll bet it's good.

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 1>It sounds blood boiling. What about the taste of bottled water,

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>because that's sort of the one thing we haven't really

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 1>covered is some people say they like the taste more,

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they're certainly haven't been very scientific studies,

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but there have been random like things and and stuff

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>like that where they will, uh, they will do like

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>blind taste tests, and it depends on where you are, obviously,

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of these have happened in

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 1>New York. But yeah, unfair, yeah, because they have good water,

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>but in blind taste tests. It seems like a lot

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of times that people either can't tell the difference or

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>they rate tap water kind of higher than they ordinarily

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 1>would if it was labeled as such. Yeah, I think

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>depending on how um gross your tap water tastes, or

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>how much you're into mineral water, um taste can be

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a factor. Like if you don't want your water taste

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>at all, go get yourself some purified water and call

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it a day. Or if you if your tap water

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>is pretty bland and you like a little taste to it,

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you might want some mineral water, sparkling mineral water. Who knows, right,

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>So taste is probably the one thing that you can say, Yeah,

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that might actually be a factor, um, but not always

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people choose tapwater and blind taste tests

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like you were talking about. Yeah, I saw a water

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Somalia in New York. Oh, I've I've seen that guy?

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that? It was? I think? Why do

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to say? It was that TV show that

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>uh Zach? What's his face? Who's the hunky guy? I

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>think all all guy's name is Zach or hunky Za Galivanakis. Yeah,

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 1>he's example he really always been hunky. I can't remember

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.839
<v Speaker 1>the zac Efron Uh, he has that show and if

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, he sat down with the water Somalia Uh,

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was really interesting. I mean it's

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.439
<v Speaker 1>very easy to scoff at something like that, but water

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>are different kinds of water for sure, have different flavor

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 1>profiles and um, and it's interesting to sit down and

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of listen to someone walk you through that. I

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I would go to the water Cafe

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>or wherever this was that they were doing this, but um,

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I just found it interesting. It is interesting. It's like

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the water Boy. Remember that that movie with Adam Sandler.

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Sure he had that magic water that just tasted amazing. Yeah,

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>my brother is on record, is uh. It's very characteristic

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 1>of him as saying that his favorite water is hose water. Yeah,

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>hose water is pretty good, have that nice rubber taste. Yeah.

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he's being serious too, and I think it

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>evokes uh uh, you know childhood stuff when you're outside

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>playing and having like a water hose fight. Then you

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>drink some of that stuff. Yeah, the added sensation of

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like that slight sting because it's coming out a little

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.760
<v Speaker 1>faster than you wanted to, or is a spider perhaps

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna come out right. So there are some people who

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>are like, hey, hey, this is all fun and games

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to to poop poo Americans over use of bottled water

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and everything. There are plenty of places that don't have

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>access to clean drinking water, and in that sense, bottle

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of water is literally a lifesaver. Um. There's nobody arguing

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that or denying that. I think what people are saying

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>is like, look, if you live in America, your tap water,

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, with some um some places shamefully accepted,

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 1>is probably as healthy, taste, probably as good, and as

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>roughly as pure as the bottled water that you're paying

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>hundreds to maybe thousands of times more for, you know,

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 1>drop for drop, and is having far less of an

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:05.399
<v Speaker 1>ecological um impact than your bottled water is your little

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>bottled water habit. And I think that makes sense, and

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that certainly was a sensible thing to say in two

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand five. But there are people who who say, Okay,

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe we don't do bottled water. I get that because

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned about microplastics. I also realized it's an ecological nightmare.

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know that it's a good idea to say,

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody just drink water out of the tap, and what

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they point to is the Safe Drinking Water Act from

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the seventies. I believe. I think Ironized Cody really had

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>an impact on that one um and then it was

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>updated and then that was it. And since then our

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>science of oh, what's this thing in the water we

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't notice before that we said was fine, maybe we

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:47.879
<v Speaker 1>should start studying that. Oh it turns out it gives

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you bladder cancer? Or how is it okay to have

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>chlorine in your water really even in small amounts? Like,

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>all of this research just is happening, and more of

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it needs to happen. But just as much Congress these

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, scientists, what have you been finding out

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>about water that we're drinking? Since let's update the laws.

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Because the municipal tap water can be within those those

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>those quotas or limits set by the Safe Drinking Water Act.

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean it's actually safe. It just means that

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 1>from what Congress has set the limits for, it's safe.

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 1>It's what Congress has said is safe. It's not necessarily

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>scientifically safe. So we need to do more and more

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>research on the water drinking because it's such a vitally

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>important part of our world. Um, and it's pretty ridiculous

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.240
<v Speaker 1>that here in the United States that hasn't been updated

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>for twenty five years. Yeah, and that would give you know,

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 1>some Southern member of Congress to stand up and like

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>beat their shoe on the desk and say these laws

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>are as out data is an old water article on

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>how stuff works. That was a great Trent Lot. Trent Lot. Yeah,

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>is that guys still around? No? No, I'm just trying

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.319
<v Speaker 1>really hard to demonstrate how irrelevant and out of date

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:07.760
<v Speaker 1>we are. Oh. I thought I had something else to say,

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but now I can't think of it. Sorry, man, I

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean it, derail. No, No, I'm good. Well, if

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to know more about bottle water, you could

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>do worse than checking out this anequated article on how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works. You can check out Serious Eats for some

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<v Speaker 1>great history. We also got some search from yep, Time magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>healthline all over the internet, and there is something called

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<v Speaker 1>the Environmental Working Group. They have a tapwater database. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go in, type in your zip code, select

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<v Speaker 1>your water utility, and then just have the socks scared

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<v Speaker 1>off of you when it reveals to you what's in

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<v Speaker 1>your water? Checking out? I did that yesterday. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna say. Uh, you know the little

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<v Speaker 1>um box water that they're doing now, is is a

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<v Speaker 1>better alternative even than single use plastic? Oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>box water that sends you a check every month and

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<v Speaker 1>the hopes that you'll mention them. You chill. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a brand, I don't think, is it? Yeah? Oh? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it really? It's called box water, I believe. So Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just meant water that's packaged in something that's uh

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<v Speaker 1>not leaching plastic and it's easier to recycle. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got you right? Do you know those boxes are made

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<v Speaker 1>from baby lambs? Ah? What are you gonna do? Then? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>You just give up? I guess all right. Well, since

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<v Speaker 1>I said give up everybody, that means it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>a listener mail. I'm clickity clicking, and I'm finding it.

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<v Speaker 1>See I've got four good ones stored up here. Oh good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'll do this one because this is uh

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<v Speaker 1>promoting a documentary that I want to see another one. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>love your show. Always thrilled it when a new episode

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<v Speaker 1>pops up. My girlfriend and I both listened separately and

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<v Speaker 1>together it was great to hear an entire episode dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to Wiseman's movie to the Cut Follies. Though any self

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<v Speaker 1>respecting documentary filmmaker knows it well, it's a movie that

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<v Speaker 1>many in the civilian world quote unquote don't. I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by how many people have never even heard of Gray Gardens. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>been wanting to write for a while in hopes of

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<v Speaker 1>turning you guys onto a movie that I made, and

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<v Speaker 1>this recent Titticut Follies episode seemed to be the perfect excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called strad Style. It's a documentary about a rural

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio gentleman with an obsession for strativeri the violin, of course, who,

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<v Speaker 1>through the magic of social media, convinces a famous European

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<v Speaker 1>concert violinists that he can make a copy of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most famous and valuable violins in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever seen and liked something like American Movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you might dig this. Uh it was shot

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<v Speaker 1>by the way that Strade Style has a shot in

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<v Speaker 1>it that it is own that has an homage wink

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<v Speaker 1>to Titticut Follies in it as well. And he sent

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<v Speaker 1>me the trailer and uh it looks great. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it did quite well in the festival circuit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a real deal documentary and it's called Strade Style

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<v Speaker 1>s t R a E made by listener and filmmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Stephen Abalos and go stream it. I'm gonna watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks really good. Same here. It does sound magnificent. Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks good. It looks right up my alley. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Stephen or Stefan, depending on how you pronounce your name.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on your doc. That's a huge achievement and we're

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<v Speaker 1>proud of you. We don't even know you, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>proud of you. So thanks. Thanks for letting everybody know.

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