1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: and there's Chuck and there's Jerry, and this is stuff 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: you should know. Unscrew the caps and glug it down. Addition, Uh, 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: that's right. And you know what I think we should 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: say the outset here. Uh, now, no, we have to do. 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna say, Um that we are 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: using a well it's from Julia Layton, actually, one of 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: our writers, but it's from an old how Stuff Works article. Uh. 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: And when I say old, I mean that it's from 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: two thousand five or six or so old unbottled water. Um, 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: so it is old, but I mean I think that 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: most of the stuff in here is still true from 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: skucking in and researching further. But what it did do 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: was provide an interesting look at statistics, because you know, 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: we had to get updated statistics on how much bottled 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: water we use and how big the industry's And it's 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: really amazing though, just to have sort of a before 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: after picture from two thousand six to now two thousand 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean I saw stats from like twenty and twenty one. Yeah, 21 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: there's been a tad bit of growth since two thousand 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: six in that industry. Yeah, I think like one statue 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: she cites, and we're gonna go through all this. But 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: just as an example, is seven billion gallons of bottled 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: water we're consumed by Americans in two thousand five, and 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: I got from twenty nineteen that is I'm sorry, that 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: is now fifteen billion gallons. That is a tremendous increase 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: in bottled water gallons per American, per year, per American, 29 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: includes dumb babies. It's a lot of water. I mean, 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's better then if we were if we 31 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: had decided to all start drinking like that much high 32 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: fruit toast corn syrup every year. But there's a lot 33 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: of there's a lot of problems with bottled water, as 34 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: you can imagine, and maybe some you can't quite imagine yet. 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: But we're gonna go over all that. We're gonna give 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: you the ins and out to bottled water. Okay, so 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: please forgive us. This is kind of an old article. 38 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: I I that what perked my ears up, Chuck, is 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: that she referred to bottled waters new fangled. At one point, 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: I said, people who who drink bottled water just think 41 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: they're so fancy, and I was like, this seems old. 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: This seems like an old way of looking at well. 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: It's it is interesting because I think that was true 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: for a while, and then I think we're to point 45 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: now ino where there's a large portion of America that 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want to get bottled water at all anymore and 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: refuses to use like single plastic, single use plastics like this. Uh. 48 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: But there are also still a lot of people that 49 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, you go and you see him, like loading 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: up by the caseful to stock their house. I can 51 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: see an emergency stash of something maybe, but I'm just 52 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: talking like, let me give you an example. I have 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: to tread carefully, uh, because this is a person in 54 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: our lives. Not your life, but our lives, mine and 55 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Emily's lives. But we have a human in our life 56 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: that came to see us and I bought a bunch 57 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: of you know, and when we did like, hey, I'm 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: going to the grocery store for the week. Uh, And 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: they went with us and they bought they wanted to buy, 60 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: like a case of bottle of water. We're like, oh no, no, no, please, 61 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: don't trying to tread carefully though, you know, we're like, 62 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: we got really good filtration, good water. It's good, good good. Uh. 63 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: And they said that they're on a thing where they 64 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: have to drink so much water. I was like, oh, 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: that's great, uh, and we have a good filtration system here. Um. 66 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: But they were like, well, it really helps me keep 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: up with how much I'm drink king if I do 68 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: it per bottle. And Emily just looked at me like 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: she's just like, just shut up, you know. She gave 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: me that look, and I did. But it was really 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: frustrating to know that it's not any easier to keep 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: up than drinking a glass of water. Yeah, I wonder 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: how much. I wonder how much. Also though that person 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: like really just felt like bottled water was healthier or 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: pure or whatever, and it wasn't. It was more than 76 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: just that. Who knows. I don't know. The reason they 77 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: gave though, was keeping up with it, Like they lined 78 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: the bottles up at the end of every day and 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: like shot them with a six shooter that's right right 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: into the ocean. They drove him out to that. But anyway, 81 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: it's a personal frustration and I'm trying. I'm going to 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: try not to like just live on my soapbox in 83 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: this episode. But suffice it to say, I I really 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: don't like bottled water, and I try to. I've seen 85 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the light, and I will only get bottled water if 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm in a real, real pinch and have to. If 87 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: somebody's pinching you and they're like, I'm not going to 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: up until you buy bottled water, you do it. No. 89 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes when you got a kid, you're stuck 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: somewhere and you're like, you know, you have to hydrate 91 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: your child. You're like, oh God, I gotta get this 92 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: bottled water, and I hate it. You're out of high 93 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: freak toast corn, sir, right uh, And and then try to, 94 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, at least like, at least let me get 95 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: like spring water or something. But when the only option 96 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: is and we'll get to all this is just like 97 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: purified bottled tap water. I just wanna crawl under the rug. Yeah, well, 98 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: come out from under the rug, Chuckley. We got to 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: talk about bottled water, so I just wanted to level set. 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: So um, Okay, I think you did that pretty well. 101 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little a little history about bottled water. Um. 102 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: And this comes to us from our friends over at 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: Serious Eats this part's interesting. I thought so too. So um, 104 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: bottled water has been around I saw somewhere since the 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: eighteenth century in America. Certainly in the mid nineteenth century 106 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: there were people bottling water and selling them and usually 107 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: it was like as a remedy. It was a healthy thing, 108 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: and you would buy them at like spas or something. 109 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: But that's definitely the origin of bottle water. Yeah, and 110 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: perry A. You know, I'm I'm sure you remember when 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: we were kids that before like bottle water was as 112 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: we know, it was such a big thing. Perry A 113 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: was something you started seeing ads for on TV and 114 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: in magazines. That was just I think they were smart 115 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: enough to brand it early on, or not early on 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: in there. I mean they've been around since the mid 117 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, but early on in the seventies and eighties 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: in America of like, you know, a fancy schmancy thing 119 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, the Patrick Bateman types really slurped it 120 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: down right. Yeah, But that was that was because of 121 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: a rebranding that they did a hundred and twenty years 122 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: after they started selling this stuff here in America. They 123 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: hired Orson Wells, They got People magazine to write about it. 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Just became like a thing, and it really dovetailed with 125 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: that kind of health consciousness that was starting to kind 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: of blossom among baby boomers, who were again all Patrick 127 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Bateman type still are, and so Harry became like the 128 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: first bottled water that America kind of became obsessed with. 129 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: But it was like aspirational, it was expensive, um, and 130 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: it was a status symbol, plain and simple. It wasn't 131 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: until Coke and Pepsi really got into the game that 132 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: it became like the thing that it is now. Yeah, 133 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: And I think Pepsi got in first in ninety four 134 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: with their aquafine a brand, and I think Coke for 135 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: a while, and I think Coke for a while it's like, no, no, no, 136 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: we're in the soda game and we don't want this 137 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: water thing cutting into our soda business because I think 138 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: they were scared by Perry because they were also marketing 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: it as an alternative soda, like a healthy alternative. And 140 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: then Pepsi started crushing it, and then Coke was like, well, 141 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: we can't have that. No, so they launched a sani, 142 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: which apparently means it means nothing. It's just supposed to 143 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: evoke like um, a kind of like a refreshing, pure 144 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: since they ation I guess, I guess um or sorry, 145 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: a clean, fresh taste that a Coke spokesperson back in 146 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: the late nineties early two thousand's um. And then that 147 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: also set off a huge consolidation rush where there I mean, 148 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: some of the brands that you know today a bottled 149 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: water like Arrowhead and Poland Springs and Deer Park, they've 150 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: been around since the mid nineteenth century. They got snatched 151 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: up by all these larger brands are consolidated. Um. When 152 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: people started to say, yeah, we'll drink bottle of water, 153 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: and I remember very clearly in the late nineties early 154 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: two thousands, there was a big cultural um discussion, I guess, 155 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: but also kind of chiding of people who drank bottle 156 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: of water because people like to point out, like a 157 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff is coming out of the tap somewhere. 158 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: It's just purified. And after all that, after the whole 159 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: discussion was done, America said, you know what we want, 160 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: bottle water. That's what we're going to drink. And in 161 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen it became the most consumed beverage in 162 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: the entire United State. Eats bottled water. Yeah, Wow, how 163 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: about more than more than coffee. And I've been doing 164 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: my part to keep coffee up there statistically speaking, and 165 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: it still beats coffee, still beats coke, beats everything else. 166 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: Bottled water beer beats beer. Yeah, yeah, bottled beer or 167 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: canned beer. Crazy. Uh yeah, it's hard to believe, um, 168 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: but that's kind of what's happened here. Um. Julia points 169 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: out that there are a few reasons, and you mentioned 170 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: them a little bit with my mystery guests that some 171 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: of the other reasons people might drink bottle water is 172 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: they think it might be healthier or more pure, or 173 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: they might just think it tastes better than tap water, 174 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: which actually could be the case. There's uh, certainly some 175 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: funky tasting tapwater in America, depending on where you live, 176 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, definitely, and there's a lot of people who, um, 177 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: who like kind of take the opposite tack there, Like 178 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: America has some of the best, cleanest, safest drinking water 179 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: in the world, and in some parts of America it's 180 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: just straight up amazing. Like remember our episode on the 181 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: New York City's water delivery system and just how amazingly 182 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: good New York City tap water is. Like in some 183 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: places there are like the local tap water is what 184 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: they sell as spring water basically. Um, so some people 185 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: have it better than others, but in general, people who 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: drink tap water kind of they just take a certain 187 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: tact towards bottle water, like you're dummy for drinking that, 188 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense, whereas people with bottle waters, say, 189 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: you're drinking poison right out of your kitchen sink. I 190 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: can't believe you would do that to yourself in your family. 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: So there's kind of like a disconnect there between those 192 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: two groups. Yeah, and to be sure, we are not 193 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: talking about I mean there are some My my friend, 194 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: uh Dave Barnhardt is a documentary filmmaker who um has 195 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: made a documentary on the water in Flint, Michigan. And 196 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: we're not talking about places where the tapwaters like legit 197 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: dangerous and it's aimful that that kind of thing goes 198 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: on in this country these days. So we're not talking 199 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: about that. We're talking about garden variety tap water that's 200 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: generally pretty safe. Um, Florida's got some funky water to 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: my friend, egg water. Yeah, well I went to uh 202 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: my Disney World trip, I got some pretty funky egg 203 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: water there. Yes, it can be funky. And it's not 204 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: just funky to drink, it's funky to bathe in. It's 205 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: funny to be like in the same city as it's 206 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: just it's funky stuff. For those of you have never 207 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: experienced egg water, it's called that because it smells a 208 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: lot like rotten eggs. It's got a lot of sulfur 209 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: content in it. Totally safe, nothing's wrong with it. Uh, 210 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: it may even bestow some health benefits compared to water 211 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: that has a lower sulfur content. Interesting. The upshot of 212 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: it is it's funky, and it smells bad, and it 213 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: tastes bad, and you don't really want that. But unfortunately 214 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: there are some parts of Florida that do have that 215 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,119 Speaker 1: as their tap water. Now, can you get a filtration 216 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: system that actually gets rid of that taste? If you 217 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: do have that coming here for sure? If you want 218 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: to get rid of everything, you just get a reverse 219 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: osmosis system, so simple as that. The problem is it 220 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: takes out everything, So there's beneficial stuff and water you 221 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: don't really want to take out magnesium, potassium, um, calcium, 222 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: and probably a bunch of other little micro nutrients and 223 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: minerals too. That we don't even know about yet. Reverse 224 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: osmosis takes everything out, which we talked about. We did 225 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: some sort of water purification episode not too long ago. Yeah, 226 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: I think that was our water treatment. That was a 227 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: good one. Okay, so in reverse I think we also 228 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: do one specifically on reverse osmosis too, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, 229 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: So it takes everything out. So if you want to 230 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: get everything out, just get a reverse osmosis system and 231 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: you're fine. You should be the spokesperson. That's pretty tight. Well, 232 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: I don't personally believe in reverse osmosis systems. I think 233 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: it takes too much out and you just have pure water, 234 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: and I think the water that we drink is supposed 235 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: to have a little more in there. This would make 236 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: a terrible ad for reverse osmosis. The second part way 237 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: for sure, Uh, Julia, And is again from two thousand five, 238 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: so this is when this was around. But it is 239 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: pretty interesting to look back at. You know, Bottle labeling 240 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: is a big thing and you can put a I 241 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: mean you can't lie on a water bottle out right, 242 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: but you can get really generous with how far you 243 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: stretch things. Uh. And there was a company. It's not 244 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: around anymore called Alaska Water at one point that said 245 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Alaska Premium Glacier drinking water, pure glacier water from the 246 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: last unpolluted frontier, and it came literally from Juneo, Alaska 247 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: tap water. Yeah, the municipal supply. Yeah, which I guess 248 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: is uh, you know, if you trace it back, it 249 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: might come originally from the last unpolluted frontier. Sure. Yeah, No, 250 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: there's certainly a certain there's a bit of legitimacy to that, 251 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: but it's it's dishonest still. Yeah, there's there was also 252 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: one called Glacier clear Water UM that until two thousand 253 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: two was owned by the Dairy Farmers of America in 254 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Missouri. That was sourced in Greenville, Tennessee. So 255 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with glaciers. Like there may 256 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: have been glacial activity at the last Ice Age around 257 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: that part of Tennessee maybe, but the water in Tennessee 258 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: was not coming from any glacial activity um. And so 259 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: stuff like that that really made the rounds in the 260 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: early two thousands and made people who were into bottle 261 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: water look like idiots. Um. But again, even through that 262 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: kind of gauntlet that bottled water drinkers that Americans in 263 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: general had to go through on the other side, Like, 264 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: the propensity for for bottled water was not beaten out 265 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: of us, it was, it just got even more homed. 266 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: I guess it's it's strange that that happened, that there 267 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: was a pushback on the whole thing, and then that 268 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: pushback just got totally overwhelmed. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. Um. 269 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: I think before we break, maybe we should at least 270 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: go over the kinds of bottled water that the f 271 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: d A like the terms the FDA regulates. Yes, at 272 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: least Okay, Uh, we should start with artesian It's a 273 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: great sounding word. It sounds very fancy, and that means 274 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: it comes from an artesian well, which means it comes 275 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: from a confined aquifer, which is a porous rocket's underground 276 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: and it comes from porous rock or sand formations. That. Uh, 277 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: it's under a lot of pressure from these layers of 278 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: rock or clay and it forces that water up. I 279 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: think we might have talked about artesian water, but maybe not. 280 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: There's no way in the last fourteen years we've never 281 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: mentioned artesian water, you know. I think so there's also 282 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: mineral water, mineral water, Yeah, I do too. A lot. 283 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Mineral water is just water that has a higher um 284 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: higher content of total dissolved solids, which sounds gross, and 285 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: it can be gross, for sure, but it's more talking 286 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: about things like I mentioned earlier, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, 287 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: stuff that gives water taste, distinctive taste, and in particular, 288 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: mineral water taste. UM. So, I think the standard because 289 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: you said the FDA regulate system. We'll talk more about 290 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: that in a little bit, but the FDA standards that 291 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: to be mineral water has to be spring water that 292 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: has at least two parts per million of total dissolved solids. 293 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: Regular old spring water, non mineral water has fifty. It's 294 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: a big difference that your tongue can pick up on. Uh. 295 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: Then you got your naturally sparkling, sparkling water. Uh. And 296 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: this is yes, folks, there is water that comes from 297 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: a spring or an artesian well that is naturally carbonated. 298 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: And even if they take that carbonation out and then 299 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: put it back in, according to the FDA, you have 300 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: to recarbonate it to the levels that it once was 301 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: naturally to qualify for that language. Yeah, And I went 302 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: and looked, and I was sad to see that my 303 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: favorite Sam Pellegrino water. It uh, it is artificially carbonated 304 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: after the fact, and that's sad because I was looking 305 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: into this and apparently um natural carbonation, which like volcano 306 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: is heating the rock that the that holds the aquifer 307 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: and it turns the carbon into a gas, and so 308 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: it's naturally carbonated. Apparently it's much softer, less harsh on 309 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: the throat and the stomach. Um. But it's really really 310 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: hard to keep water carbonated and then get it to market. 311 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: So they take the water out and then recarbonated and 312 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: then sell it. So it's really hard to find naturally 313 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: carbonated water. And I think it's very expensive too. I 314 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: like that Tobo Chico. I don't believe that that is 315 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: naturally carbonated. I I'm sure it's probably not because it 316 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: is good, though I agree it makes me sneeze every 317 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: time I drink it. But that comes to a glass bottle. 318 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: It tickles your nose, it does, and we don't buy 319 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: cases in cases of it. It's a treat, yeah, and 320 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: it does come in a glass bottle. But Chuck, I've 321 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: seen you. You You have a ritual where every time you 322 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: finish off a bottle of smash it on the ground 323 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: and shout say yahoo. Yeah. And sometimes I'll smash it 324 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: against like something hard it and then hold the broken 325 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: bottleneck in my hand and you can't tempt anyone to 326 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: come at me. Yeah, you'll say, any takers. Uh, never 327 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: had any takers either, he knows you never have. It's 328 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: very menacing. What else we got. We got the purified 329 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: water I was talking about. And this is when you're 330 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: talking about the dissanis and the aquafinas. Is when they 331 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: take public tap water uh and they purify it. It 332 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: comes from in other words, of municipal water source. Uh. 333 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: And that's pretty much the long and short of that. 334 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, if you're talking about pure water, this 335 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: is like the most artificial water. It's the most heavily 336 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: treated water, because yeah, you're taking tap water and then 337 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: you're bottling it and selling it. And the FDA says, Okay, 338 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: there's some things you have to do if you're selling 339 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: purified water. It has to be if you're selling it 340 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: from like a municipal source. Um. You you have to 341 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: either filter it, you have to distill it. You have 342 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: to run it through that old reverse osmosis. You have 343 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: to take some oxygen and subjected to electricity and create 344 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: ozone and then infuse the water with that. So it 345 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: goes and reacts with all the stuff in there and 346 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: and UM purifies it, or you could run it through 347 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: UV light treatment or some combination of that. But that's 348 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: what purified water is. And as a matter of fact, 349 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: it didn't realize this chuck. But you can buy and 350 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: I could not find what labels this was, but you 351 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: can buy water that was originally nonpotable water, meaning like 352 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: you should not be drinking this is not for human consumption. 353 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: UM that can be treated through these these ways and 354 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: it becomes it can be bottled and sold as purified 355 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: water because the end result is the same. It's almost 356 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: devoid of anything but water molecules. Yeah, and I think, 357 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: and we'll get into the different f d A versus 358 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: e p A standards, because e p A s who 359 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: regulates your tap water. But I believe that e p 360 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: A standard or the FDA standard for bottled water allows 361 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: more poop in your water than the e p A 362 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: does in your tap water. Right, Yeah, The e p 363 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: A says you can have zero poop in your water, 364 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: and the FDA says, hey, hey, this relax a little bit. 365 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: Let's let's take our hang ups off of the American public. 366 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, what's wrong with a little poop in your water? Right? Uh, 367 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: you've got spring water, which I love. Uh. There's nothing 368 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: better than if you can drink directly from a spring 369 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: when you're hiking in the woods, cupped in your hand, 370 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: like Daniel Boone did. Just the best thing in the world. 371 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: It comes from a protected underwater spring and it flows 372 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: to the surface on its own. It just bubbles right 373 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: up there. It's a really a wonderful sight to behold 374 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: if you've never seen a natural spring. I love it. 375 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: I love it. And then it's collected there at the 376 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: surface in the case of bottling, or maybe they may 377 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: drill down if they can't get, you know, to the surface, 378 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: but it's like a sanitary, protected area that it's drilled 379 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: down to where what's feeding the spring. Like they might 380 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: just go to an area that's more accessible, I guess, uh. 381 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: And then but if they do that, though, they have 382 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: to have it has to be the same composition as 383 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: as it does from the source. Yes, Hey, I'm gonna 384 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: put three words together, and you try to convince me 385 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: that they don't evoke an image of a future medical kink, sanitary, 386 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: protected whole and that awful and then an awful collection 387 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: of words. Uh yeah, it's uh yeah, that could be 388 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: the album new album title for Diarrhea Planet. I guess so, 389 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: but it's kind of the opposite of a diarrhea planet 390 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: if you think about it. Yeah, I think that's the twist. Yeah, hey, 391 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: diarrhea Planet. I hope you guys are still doing it. 392 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Uh so, then you got well water is the last 393 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: one before we go to our break, and that comes 394 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: from a well it does. Simple simple. It's a new one. 395 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm testing out because I've been using easy peasy too much. 396 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: Did you just say simple fimple? Yeah, but really you could. 397 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: You could make anything. You could use any consonant or 398 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: combination for simple, pimp. That's kind of gross. You could 399 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: say simple simple, I guess, but that's unnecessarily complex. I 400 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: like easy beasy, lemon squeezy. Yeah, I do too, But again, 401 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: it's it's starting to kind of take off a little bit, 402 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go elsewhere. All right, simple simple, We'll 403 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: be right back. Stuck stucks in. That sucks. I don't 404 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: know that you know it. Stuck and Stuck. It's a 405 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: great name. That's the name of it. It's a great name. Alright, 406 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Stucks net within with an X. I want to learn 407 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: about a rosortic college act, how to take the perfect 408 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: but with all about fractals, getting kiscon that's the hun 409 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: the Lizzie Border murders that they kind of all runs 410 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: on the plane everything we should know. Word up, Jerry. Alright, Chuck. So, 411 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: like we said, the FDA regulates bottled water, and it's 412 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: kind of a quirk of bureaucracy that it does. It 413 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: would make way more sense that the e p A does, 414 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: But the e p A says, no, we're too busy 415 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: concentrating on drinking water and our standards. F DA, you 416 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: go handle this, And the FDA says, that makes sense 417 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: because we're going to consider bottled water a packaged food, 418 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: which is I can't remember what episode we talked about 419 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: it in, but that's why water has an expiration date 420 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: because it's considered a package food, and all packaged foods 421 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: have to have an expiration date, even though water is 422 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: never really going to expire, right, So the FDA is 423 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: in charge of regulating bottled water and they do a 424 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: so so job of it. Yeah. I think the deal 425 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: is is the f d A considers bottled water low 426 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: the categorized as as low risk. Yeah, so just a presumption. Yeah, 427 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: and I guess that I don't know. I guess that 428 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: lets them internally off the hook for I mean, I'm 429 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: sure surely it shouldn't be as robust as like pharmaceuticals 430 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: or something. I'm not saying that, but uh, yeah, they 431 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: categorize it as low risk. Uh they It says that 432 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: it must come from a roof source. But that doesn't 433 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: mean it's not like the f d A goes out 434 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: to the spring in Tennessee or whatever to check it 435 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: out or anything like that. Right, No, they definitely do not. They. Um, 436 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: they say it has to come from you know, one 437 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: of these like an archiesian well, it has to come 438 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: from well water, it has to come from municipal water, 439 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: like all those those sources that we mentioned. And by 440 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: the way, right um, and by the way, you have 441 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: to actually put on your label what kind of water 442 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: this is? Like those aren't just like like you know, 443 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: categories like those are terms that you will see on 444 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: a bottled water label because by law, they have to 445 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: say what kind of water, it is right. And and 446 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: then further than that, like they have kind of sub 447 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: regulations for the different kinds of water, Like if it's 448 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 1: from a spring or something like that, Um, I think 449 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: they they they has to be tested like once a 450 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: week or something to make sure it's sanitary. Um. That's 451 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: another one. If it comes from a from municipal water, 452 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: it has to go through that filtrition process like we said. Um. 453 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: And then also if you add anything to the water, 454 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: because remember I was saying reverse osmosis chuck is like 455 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: it takes everything out pure the water purification does well. 456 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: They usually add some stuff in to give that water flavor. Again, 457 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: if it's like that, say like they put they fortify 458 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: it with protein molecules or chunks of fat or something 459 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: like that. It's got to say in the label it 460 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: contains chunks of fat or with ad fat is probably 461 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: how the marketing team would want them to say it. 462 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: And like a starburst you know on the label. Uh. Interestingly, 463 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: fluoride is uh. When we did an episode on Florida 464 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: that was jeez, I feel like one of our earlier 465 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 1: year one or two episodes definitely the fluoridation of our 466 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: drinking water in the United States, um bottled water is 467 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: not fluoridated, so uh. Some dentists have talked about the 468 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: fact that if you only drink bottled water in your house, 469 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: then you're avoiding that fluoridation that they think you need 470 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: to make your teeth strong. Yeah, so if they if 471 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: it's bottled water with added fluoride, like I think a 472 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: lot of baby water, that's the thing. Is there baby water? Yeah? 473 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: I think there's like Gerber bottled water for babies and 474 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think those things usually have added fluoride. 475 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: But it's gonna say it on the on the label. 476 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: If you don't see on the label with added fluoride 477 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: or something like that, that's not a thing. Why has 478 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: no one, I'm sure this will happen at some point. 479 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: Why has no one tried to collect rainwater and market 480 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: that as like, you know, Icelandic rainwater bottled up. I 481 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: would bet you a hundred dollars someone has you think? 482 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: Sure gotta be because I was thinking, like when I said, like, 483 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: what other water sources are there? Obviously there's the ocean 484 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but it's like, well, I guess 485 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: there's rainwater, and why hasn't someone you know touted that 486 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: as like the next big thing. I mean, it's supposed 487 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: to be some of the purest water you can get 488 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: your hands on is rainwater, which is surprising but true. 489 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: They don't know because it's come out of the sky, 490 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: and the sky is poisoned all of us obviously, Yeah, 491 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: you would call it though, you call it skywater s 492 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: k y e with like an um loud over everything. Right. Um. 493 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: I hope it didn't give someone an idea. I again, 494 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: I think somebody's probably done that, all right. So the 495 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: FDA also says there's just certain amounts of stuff you 496 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: can have it there. Again, poop, you can have a 497 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: certain amount of poop, bacteria, virus, is, parasites, you can 498 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: have a certain amount of raid on in there. You're 499 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: gonna have a certain amount of lead in there. That's actually, 500 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: that's actually right. That's actually one place where the f 501 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: d A exceeds the e p A standards is with lead. 502 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: The FDA says you have to have a much lower 503 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: amount of lead in your bottled water than the FDA 504 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: allows for because the or the e p A allows 505 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: for in tap water. Because a lot of the pipes 506 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: in the United States have lead in them, and supposedly 507 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: as long as your local water supply is not over 508 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: chlorinated or being overtreated, that the water won't corrode the 509 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: lead and very little lead will be brought to your tap. 510 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: So the e p A says, some leads going to 511 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: be in your water just by virtue of flowing through 512 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: these pipes. And the FDA says, well, this stuff is 513 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: not supposed to be flowing through pipes, or if it 514 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: did flow through pipes, it has to be so so 515 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: well filtered that there there should be almost no lead 516 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: in it whatsoever. But other than that, the e p 517 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: A usually beats the f d A. Right, Yeah, and 518 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: then you know this is the federal standards. Then your 519 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: different state and may or may not have h state 520 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: regulations for the industry. Uh. Some states don't have anything 521 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: at all going on. Some states are going to be 522 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: a little more strict obviously, uh, and say like you 523 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: have to have a license, you have to submit to 524 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: inspections of that kind of thing. Um. So if you're 525 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you're out there thinking what is one 526 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: to do, then it sounds like the wild West. There 527 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: is a voluntary body, the International Bottled Water Association, UH, 528 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: The good news is is that I believe, and this 529 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: is an old number, but I bet it's still pretty 530 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: accurate that about of the bottled water in the US 531 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: is a member of the i b w A and 532 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: they have their own internal, like self enforced regulations as 533 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: far as you know, it's called I believe the i 534 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: w B A model code. Uh. And you know they 535 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, all the filtration types and all 536 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: the disinfecting that you have to do and stuff like that. Yeah, 537 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: and like really they really stepped up their game with 538 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: the Let's get the poop out campaign of two thousand 539 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: thirteen really had a big effect on the industry. Right. 540 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: But to be clear, this is not like a body 541 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: that like impostes fines or stuff like that. It's all 542 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: just sort of self regulated and voluntary. Yeah. It's like, 543 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: um ooh, man, what episode we're talking about where it's like, 544 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: I have a feeling this is the industry getting out 545 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: ahead of a problem, like problem legislation that's going to 546 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: make them do stuff. I remember, I don't either, but 547 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: I have a feelings. And I think anytime you see 548 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: an industry coming up with its own voluntary regulations, it's 549 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: a lot of um, uh pr stuff, you know what 550 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean. I did, but they I mean, they do 551 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: have these standards and they do have um, you know, 552 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: certification you can get through them. Um. But yeah, again, 553 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: it's it's voluntary. And like you said, like if if 554 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: you are not selling water from state to state, technically 555 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: the FDA does not have jurisdiction over you as long 556 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: as you're only selling within your state's boundaries, as long 557 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: as the source of this water comes entirely from within 558 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: that state's boundaries. And then if that state is one 559 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: of those I think seven or eleven states that don't 560 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: regulate bottled water, there's no one looking over your shoulder whatsoever. 561 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Your water is totally unregulated. It falls in a weird 562 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: little loophole like what that part in Yellowstone Park that 563 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: supposedly has no laws on it or whatever. That's kind 564 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: of like that situation. But then I saw that there's 565 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: a way that the FDA can still get you if 566 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: your packaging was made in another state, any part of it. 567 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: You're now subject to full FDA oversight for your bottle 568 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: of water, interstate uh whatever, packaging. Yeah, I guess so 569 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: should we. I think we should talk about leaching some 570 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: because I feel like leaching is something that is kind 571 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: of just started to come around in the past like 572 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: six or seven years, which is the idea that wait 573 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: a minute, we have all this bottle water stored in 574 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: the garage, cases and cases of it stored in our 575 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: hot garage in Arizona. Is that bad for you? And 576 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the answers is yes, it is. Uh. Leeching happens the 577 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, we can, we'll get into all the different 578 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: kinds of plastics, but um, mainly what you're gonna find 579 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: is polycarbonate. You're gonna find PVC, and you're gonna find 580 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: polly styrene. And you know, back in the day, there 581 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: were some people that said, like, oh, it's really fine, 582 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: it's no big deal. Other people would say, well, we're 583 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: really not sure. And other people would say, no, if 584 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: you heat up a bottle that has uh, how's it 585 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: pronounced thay lates, th lights, lights, thals, p h t 586 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: h A l a t e s, everyone knows what 587 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: those are. Um that it's it's gonna be leaching chemicals 588 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: into your water, especially if it stays warm, especially if 589 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: it's stored for a long long time. And I read 590 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: recently and this is something I would do if I, uh, 591 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: if I like had to get a bottle of water 592 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: like in a pinch like I was talking about, I 593 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: would say, all right, at least I'm gonna keep this 594 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: bottle and like refill it for as long as possible. Uh. 595 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: They said that that's not a good thing to do either, 596 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: because multiple reuses will encourage leaching, which I didn't know, right, 597 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: So did you mention the two eighteen study at all? Not? 598 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: So this this article, this is like a little time 599 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: capsule because chuck in it. They quote a guy from 600 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: the PG Research Foundation who basically says, it's all good, 601 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: We're fine. And I went and looked it up. I'm like, 602 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: that sounds really fishy. Where they get their funding? What 603 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: is the PG stand for? Their defunct They came along 604 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: in just long enough to tell everybody that plastic was fine, 605 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: and now they're defunct, so it's even fishier. I couldn't 606 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: find any funding stuff like that. But since then, um, 607 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: that suspicion that now there's some sort of like leaching 608 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: going on and that's probably bad for us has finally 609 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: been quantified. There's a two thou eighteen study in Frontiers 610 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: and Chemistry and in the study, two fifty nine different 611 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: bottle water sold in eleven different countries were tested, and 612 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: then what they found is like, of no surprise whatsoever 613 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: had micro plastics in them. And I suspect the other 614 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: seven percent, like they screwed up the testing, Like I 615 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: can't believe it's not a hundred percent of these bottle 616 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: waters have a microplastics. Yeah, this is uh. If you 617 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: want to read the original article, it's really good. It's 618 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: from Time magazine. Your bottle water probably has plastic in it? 619 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: Should you worry? By markham Hyde. I guess, And it's 620 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: from May of twenty nineteen, and yeah, it's definitely. It's 621 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: definitely good to see like a real source in a 622 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: real study and not just a defunct organization. That's like 623 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, it's fine, don't worry about it. 624 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: So in this um they found that there's a substantial 625 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: amount of microplastics. And this's not like little trace amounts. 626 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: Remember like the parts per million or parts per billion 627 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: of some of the stuff that the f D A 628 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: H and E p A allows in bottle water and 629 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: tap water. The average among these two nine bottle waters 630 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: was three D and twenty five particles per leader of microplastics. Yeah, 631 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: that's seems like a lot. Okay, if that seems like 632 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot, buckling for this one. Nestlee Pure Life bottled 633 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: water had an average of ten thousand particles per leader 634 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: of microplastics. You might say, okay, let's fine and get 635 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: a little plastic in my teeth, like pull it out, 636 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: it's fine. Um, microplastics are becoming uh, it's becoming clear 637 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: that microplastics are probably endocrine disruptors. I think they fall 638 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: into a class called obeseagen's and polypropylene in particular seems 639 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: to be an endoc endocrine disruptor. And you'll never guess 640 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: what our bottled water, what type of plastic our bottled 641 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: water bottles are made out of? That? Yes, polypropylene. So 642 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: this seems to be one of those things where everybody's like, yeah, 643 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: we don't understand it, so it's probably fine. And now 644 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: we're finally getting to the science where it's like, man, 645 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: microplastics are really screwing us up. And even worse than 646 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: just being in our bottled water, they're everywhere. Like we 647 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: have a an episode do where we just talk about microplastics. Okay, yeah, 648 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: we'll take a break here. In a sec. But I 649 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: think to set us up for the next part, which 650 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: is the environmental nightmare, which is just the bottles themselves, 651 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: like after you drink it in the environment, because we're 652 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: talking about like drinking the water itself. Uh, And we'll 653 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: get into the nightmare of after you've had that water 654 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: in the single use plastic aspect in a sec after 655 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: the break. But microplastics I read basically that plastic water 656 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: bottles don't break down at all. When they say like, oh, 657 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 1: it takes some five years to break down, they don't 658 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: break down. They basically say that they just break apart 659 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: in the microplastics, and that microplastic ironically will end up 660 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: in the water supply, which could ensure one day that 661 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: we can only drink things like bottled water because there's 662 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: so much microplastic in the water supply on the plastic 663 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: water bottles that people drank that never break down. Isn't 664 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: that amazing full circles, such a beautiful circle of life 665 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: that we've got going on? All Right, we'll take that 666 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: break and we'll we'll talk more about single use plastic 667 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: and why that's such a problem. Right for this stuck 668 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: stuck in home, I don't know that you know it. 669 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: Stuck in this it's a great name. That's the name 670 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: of it. It's a great name, alright, stuck within with 671 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: an X I want to learn about as how to 672 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: take a perfect but with all about fractals and kiscon 673 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: that's the hun the Lizzie Border murders that they kind 674 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: of all runs on the plane everything that we should know. 675 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: No word up, Jerry, Okay, Chuck. So we're talking about 676 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: single use plastic, which means you take a bottled water, 677 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: you drink the water, and then you just toss the 678 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: plastic bottle. Apparently, if we've come a long way in recycling, 679 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: it used to be something like ten percent of bottled 680 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: water bottles were recycled back when this article was first written. 681 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: Now we're up to all my in the US, uh, 682 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: specifically because Norway recycles of their plastic okay, and then 683 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: so part of the problem with that, if you'll remember 684 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: back to our Recycle Update episode, China recently said, you 685 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: know what, you can take all your dirty plastic bottles 686 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: and shove them because we're not going to recycle them 687 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: for you anymore, which is a big problem because recycling 688 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: plastic can be actually fairly expensive. In China was basically 689 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: the world's plastic recycler for a long time. So now 690 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: people are trying to figure out how to how to 691 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: handle this issue, which has now become even more pronounced um. 692 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: And that's kind of where we are right now, while 693 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: America is at the same time in the world, frankly 694 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: stepping up to UM use even more plastic water bottles 695 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: than ever. Yeah, there is one alternative that I've seen 696 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: being used here and there. It's corn based. It's called 697 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: p l A or pole. It's made from polylactic acid uh, 698 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: and it is biodegradable, uh, compostable three months to degrade 699 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: in a compost pile. But here's the fine print. It 700 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: sounds great, and I saw that, you know, a major 701 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: fancy schmancy hotel chain, you know, made the big switch 702 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: and had made a big to do about this. It like, 703 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: now we use corn bass and it's compostable, but it's 704 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: only compostable if you compost it. And even the head 705 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: of the hotel chain was like, yeah, we found that 706 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: very little actually makes it to the compost pile. UM, 707 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: So it's not it's not recyclable, like if you throw 708 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: it in the recycling p l A will mess up 709 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: and it doesn't even take much for it to to 710 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 1: really mess up the uh, the other kinds of plastic 711 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: that they're recycling. So they just dump it all and yeah, 712 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean exactly, and or they try and sending it 713 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: on a boat to China and that's a long long way. 714 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: That's an environmental nightmare. So you know, be aware if 715 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: you see corn based biodegradable plastic. Uh, unless you know, 716 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: you really take it upon yourself to compost it, then 717 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: you're you're doing the right thing, good for you. But 718 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: very it says, very little of this stuff ever makes 719 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: it to the compost. Yes, so there's like fifty of 720 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: our of our previous episode just hanging around here, like 721 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: our episode on soda or episode I'm recycling, or episode 722 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: and composting, our episode on plastics, remember the Great Pacific 723 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: garbage patch we talked about plastic never breaking down. That's all. 724 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: They're all showing up for a friendly hello, our episode 725 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: on diarrhea Planet. That's right, which, by the way, we 726 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: should just explain real quick. Oh, there's probably a lot 727 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: of people they're like, what are you talking about? Because 728 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: it was a random reference years ago. They're a band, 729 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: Diarrhea Planet, and they're great, and I'm a big fan, 730 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: and I just always thought that they should change their name. 731 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: So that's why we're It's a callback from years ago, 732 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: and I think you should fill them in in case 733 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: they don't stumble across the episode where that appeared. And 734 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: what did you say they should change their name to. Yeah, 735 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what brought the whole thing up. Frozen 736 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: poop knife. Oh, that's right. You remember somebody made a 737 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: knife out of the poop and killed a bear or 738 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: an interloper or like an evil brother in law. I 739 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: don't know, And that's what brought the whole thing up. Yeah, 740 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: they're great though, they're they're from Nashville, and uh, I 741 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: don't know that we've ever heard from them, but that 742 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: we did, they rejected our publicly, our suggestion publicly on Twitter. 743 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, man, I gotta fill you in on 744 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: the last thirteen years. You're you're getting blank. So just 745 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: to kind of button this up about the single use plastic, 746 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: like it is a problem everybody and it's just one 747 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: of those things like our trash also did a landfill 748 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 1: episode that we just kind of put out of sight. 749 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: And out of mind. But that doesn't mean it just 750 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: disappears and goes away. So fortunately, one of the things 751 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are thinking of who think 752 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: about this kind of stuff is something that has made 753 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: sense for a long time. But in our Littering episode, 754 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: we talked about how there was a huge corporate push 755 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: to basically say, you're the litter bug. You the person 756 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: using it. We the people who are making this plastic 757 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: packaging and who are um using it to sell you 758 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: our products, and it's not our fault. Finally, finally, some 759 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: people in legislatures are calling bs on that, and there's 760 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: something called extended producer responsibility laws. Yeah, me too. Uh, 761 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: they're thinking of them in Washington State, Maine, and Michigan, 762 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: and it basically says you have to figure out, like 763 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: you are responsible for dealing with the packaging waste that 764 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: your product is solding. You don't just get to walk 765 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: away from it. And I think they're trying to figure 766 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: out how to make that happen. But the fact that 767 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: they're even talking about this stuff is another example that 768 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: we're starting to wake up. Finally, that's amazing, that's cool. 769 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: I think of hearing that I do too, Chuck. Will 770 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: it make a difference. Stay tuned. I should shout out 771 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: my friends film. By the way, I just realized, like 772 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: Dave's one of my very best friends. Uh, you want 773 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: to watch that documentary. It's very eye opening. Uh. And 774 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: it is called Flint The Poisoning of an American City. Uh. 775 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: And boy, if you want to, if you want your 776 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: eyes opened about you know, the fact that it can 777 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: be you know that you're in the twenties and that 778 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: we're still just like pumping poison water to a to 779 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: a town astounding rates, then you should check it out. Yeah, 780 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to check that one out. I'll bet it's good. 781 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: It sounds blood boiling. What about the taste of bottled water, 782 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: because that's sort of the one thing we haven't really 783 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: covered is some people say they like the taste more, 784 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 1: and you know, they're certainly haven't been very scientific studies, 785 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: but there have been random like things and and stuff 786 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: like that where they will, uh, they will do like 787 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: blind taste tests, and it depends on where you are, obviously, 788 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of these have happened in 789 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: New York. But yeah, unfair, yeah, because they have good water, 790 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: but in blind taste tests. It seems like a lot 791 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: of times that people either can't tell the difference or 792 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: they rate tap water kind of higher than they ordinarily 793 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: would if it was labeled as such. Yeah, I think 794 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: depending on how um gross your tap water tastes, or 795 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: how much you're into mineral water, um taste can be 796 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: a factor. Like if you don't want your water taste 797 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: at all, go get yourself some purified water and call 798 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: it a day. Or if you if your tap water 799 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: is pretty bland and you like a little taste to it, 800 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: you might want some mineral water, sparkling mineral water. Who knows, right, 801 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: So taste is probably the one thing that you can say, Yeah, 802 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: that might actually be a factor, um, but not always 803 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people choose tapwater and blind taste tests 804 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: like you were talking about. Yeah, I saw a water 805 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: Somalia in New York. Oh, I've I've seen that guy? 806 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: Did you see that? It was? I think? Why do 807 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: I want to say? It was that TV show that 808 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: uh Zach? What's his face? Who's the hunky guy? I 809 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: think all all guy's name is Zach or hunky Za Galivanakis. Yeah, 810 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,919 Speaker 1: he's example he really always been hunky. I can't remember 811 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: the zac Efron Uh, he has that show and if 812 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, he sat down with the water Somalia Uh, 813 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: and it was it was really interesting. I mean it's 814 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: very easy to scoff at something like that, but water 815 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 1: are different kinds of water for sure, have different flavor 816 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: profiles and um, and it's interesting to sit down and 817 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: sort of listen to someone walk you through that. I 818 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: don't know if I would go to the water Cafe 819 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: or wherever this was that they were doing this, but um, 820 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: I just found it interesting. It is interesting. It's like 821 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: the water Boy. Remember that that movie with Adam Sandler. 822 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,280 Speaker 1: Sure he had that magic water that just tasted amazing. Yeah, 823 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: my brother is on record, is uh. It's very characteristic 824 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: of him as saying that his favorite water is hose water. Yeah, 825 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: hose water is pretty good, have that nice rubber taste. Yeah. 826 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: I think he's being serious too, and I think it 827 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: evokes uh uh, you know childhood stuff when you're outside 828 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: playing and having like a water hose fight. Then you 829 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: drink some of that stuff. Yeah, the added sensation of 830 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: like that slight sting because it's coming out a little 831 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: faster than you wanted to, or is a spider perhaps 832 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna come out right. So there are some people who 833 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: are like, hey, hey, this is all fun and games 834 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: to to poop poo Americans over use of bottled water 835 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: and everything. There are plenty of places that don't have 836 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: access to clean drinking water, and in that sense, bottle 837 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: of water is literally a lifesaver. Um. There's nobody arguing 838 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: that or denying that. I think what people are saying 839 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: is like, look, if you live in America, your tap water, 840 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: for the most part, with some um some places shamefully accepted, 841 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: is probably as healthy, taste, probably as good, and as 842 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: roughly as pure as the bottled water that you're paying 843 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: hundreds to maybe thousands of times more for, you know, 844 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: drop for drop, and is having far less of an 845 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 1: ecological um impact than your bottled water is your little 846 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: bottled water habit. And I think that makes sense, and 847 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: that certainly was a sensible thing to say in two 848 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: thousand five. But there are people who who say, Okay, 849 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: maybe we don't do bottled water. I get that because 850 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm concerned about microplastics. I also realized it's an ecological nightmare. 851 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: But I don't know that it's a good idea to say, 852 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: everybody just drink water out of the tap, and what 853 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: they point to is the Safe Drinking Water Act from 854 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: the seventies. I believe. I think Ironized Cody really had 855 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: an impact on that one um and then it was 856 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: updated and then that was it. And since then our 857 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: science of oh, what's this thing in the water we 858 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: didn't notice before that we said was fine, maybe we 859 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: should start studying that. Oh it turns out it gives 860 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: you bladder cancer? Or how is it okay to have 861 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: chlorine in your water really even in small amounts? Like, 862 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: all of this research just is happening, and more of 863 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: it needs to happen. But just as much Congress these 864 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: to say, hey, scientists, what have you been finding out 865 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: about water that we're drinking? Since let's update the laws. 866 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: Because the municipal tap water can be within those those 867 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: those quotas or limits set by the Safe Drinking Water Act. 868 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's actually safe. It just means that 869 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: from what Congress has set the limits for, it's safe. 870 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: It's what Congress has said is safe. It's not necessarily 871 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: scientifically safe. So we need to do more and more 872 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 1: research on the water drinking because it's such a vitally 873 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: important part of our world. Um, and it's pretty ridiculous 874 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 1: that here in the United States that hasn't been updated 875 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: for twenty five years. Yeah, and that would give you know, 876 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: some Southern member of Congress to stand up and like 877 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: beat their shoe on the desk and say these laws 878 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: are as out data is an old water article on 879 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: how stuff works. That was a great Trent Lot. Trent Lot. Yeah, 880 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: is that guys still around? No? No, I'm just trying 881 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: really hard to demonstrate how irrelevant and out of date 882 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 1: we are. Oh. I thought I had something else to say, 883 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: but now I can't think of it. Sorry, man, I 884 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: didn't mean it, derail. No, No, I'm good. Well, if 885 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: you want to know more about bottle water, you could 886 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: do worse than checking out this anequated article on how 887 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: stuff works. You can check out Serious Eats for some 888 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: great history. We also got some search from yep, Time magazine, 889 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: healthline all over the internet, and there is something called 890 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: the Environmental Working Group. They have a tapwater database. It's awesome. 891 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: You can go in, type in your zip code, select 892 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: your water utility, and then just have the socks scared 893 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: off of you when it reveals to you what's in 894 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: your water? Checking out? I did that yesterday. I know 895 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. Uh, you know the little 896 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: um box water that they're doing now, is is a 897 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: better alternative even than single use plastic? Oh yeah, the 898 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: box water that sends you a check every month and 899 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: the hopes that you'll mention them. You chill. It's not 900 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: a brand, I don't think, is it? Yeah? Oh? Is 901 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: it really? It's called box water, I believe. So Okay, 902 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: I just meant water that's packaged in something that's uh 903 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: not leaching plastic and it's easier to recycle. But I 904 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 1: got you right? Do you know those boxes are made 905 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: from baby lambs? Ah? What are you gonna do? Then? Nothing? 906 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 1: You just give up? I guess all right. Well, since 907 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: I said give up everybody, that means it's time for 908 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: a listener mail. I'm clickity clicking, and I'm finding it. 909 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: See I've got four good ones stored up here. Oh good. 910 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: You know I'll do this one because this is uh 911 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 1: promoting a documentary that I want to see another one. Hey, guys, 912 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 1: love your show. Always thrilled it when a new episode 913 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: pops up. My girlfriend and I both listened separately and 914 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 1: together it was great to hear an entire episode dedicated 915 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: to Wiseman's movie to the Cut Follies. Though any self 916 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: respecting documentary filmmaker knows it well, it's a movie that 917 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: many in the civilian world quote unquote don't. I'm surprised 918 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: by how many people have never even heard of Gray Gardens. Anyway, 919 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: been wanting to write for a while in hopes of 920 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: turning you guys onto a movie that I made, and 921 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: this recent Titticut Follies episode seemed to be the perfect excuse. 922 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: It's called strad Style. It's a documentary about a rural 923 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: Ohio gentleman with an obsession for strativeri the violin, of course, who, 924 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: through the magic of social media, convinces a famous European 925 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: concert violinists that he can make a copy of one 926 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: of the most famous and valuable violins in the world. 927 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: If you've ever seen and liked something like American Movie, 928 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: I think you might dig this. Uh it was shot 929 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: by the way that Strade Style has a shot in 930 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: it that it is own that has an homage wink 931 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: to Titticut Follies in it as well. And he sent 932 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: me the trailer and uh it looks great. It looks 933 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: like it did quite well in the festival circuit. It's 934 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: like a real deal documentary and it's called Strade Style 935 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: s t R a E made by listener and filmmaker, 936 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: uh Stephen Abalos and go stream it. I'm gonna watch it. 937 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: It looks really good. Same here. It does sound magnificent. Actually, yeah, 938 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: it looks good. It looks right up my alley. Well, 939 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: thanks Stephen or Stefan, depending on how you pronounce your name. 940 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: Congratulations on your doc. That's a huge achievement and we're 941 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 1: proud of you. We don't even know you, and we're 942 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: proud of you. So thanks. Thanks for letting everybody know. 943 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: Thanks to you Chuck for letting everybody know. If you 944 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: want us to let everybody know, let us know via email. 945 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: Send it off to stuff podcast at iHeart radio dot com. 946 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeart Radio. 947 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 1: For more podcasts my heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 948 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.