1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Ready for a break? 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: It is Thursday, December eighteenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: episode number ninety six. Welcome to the latest edition of 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: The Break live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: the Star. We're presented by LGLG is the world's number 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: one OLED TV brand for eleven years in accounting see 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: why at LG dot Com forward Slash oled Evo. Amber 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: will be joining us here momentarily, but we got the 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: rest of the crew here to get you guys rolling. 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: We're going to get into the Charger defense versus the 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: Cowboys offense that is the next upcoming game. Before we 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: get there, though I wanted to start, I know we've 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: been I think it was like literally it may have 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: been three minutes after the game was over last week 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: that I received a message on X and the messages 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: continue to flow saying hey, man, brash show, No, no, no, 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: I ain't got I haven't got a while, but no. 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: They were like draft show, draft showpecial man kidding, Look, 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: I wish I did. Trust me, trust me. We've had 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: some of these issues in this building where people are like, 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: can we can we get some help from from from 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: those folks, And I've been like reaching, We've reached out, 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: and we just we don't have somebody that can. 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 5: I want to know what happened. 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: How can we be a ten eleven, twelve billion dollar 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: company and have nobody on call to help you? 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: They don't help us out, man, and they just don't. 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: I want. 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: I want to know what happens when Jerry Jones's Twitter. 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: Says Jerry Jones doesn't have a Twitter, he got Twitter, Jered. 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: I want. 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 5: I wonder. I wonder what happens when the official Dallas 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 5: Cowboys page says hot girls in Frisco. I wonder what 44 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 5: happens when that let's. 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Let's not even put that down in the universe, because 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: I would I would be that would be a problem, 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: but probably, but my suspicion is we would get the 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: same Okay, yeah, well we'll help well, we'll look into 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: it and then and then we just sat there waiting. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: Is what my guests would be. 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 5: When I get ahead, boy, good luck to you guys 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 5: make a new one. You know what I'm saying. 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: But we do, we do put a lot of security 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: around it. So the likelihood that is going to get 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: to that situation is probably not. 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 5: Pardon me, but you said peoples in your inbox they 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 5: asked about the West Show draft shown what they say. 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: They were like, man, we ready to get going with 59 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: the draft show. You know, not fans as soon as 60 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: there's any like, it's not happening. They were like, drash, 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: so let's go. And so what I wanted to do 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: today and which I think is a good thing, it 63 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: actually helps me. So I was like, I think there 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: are probably other fans out there that would love to 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: know it as well. Cowboys do have a high pick 66 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: this year. They will relatively high. They have it right now. 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: They are fourteen in the first round for their pick. 68 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: It's still to be determined where Green Bay will end 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: up because if they make the playoffs, it'll be kind 70 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: of based on playoffs and where they win and lose 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But that all being said, the draft 72 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting thing for the Cowboys 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: this year because they will have an opportunity to get 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: to some really good players, I would think. So what 75 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to do is I wanted to give you 76 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: guys who normally handle you. You guys are studying this stuff. 77 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: I know, Brian, you've already started studying BATCHA. I know 78 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: how far you've gotten. 79 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: Understand. 80 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: Okay, you just do that out there, all right. So 81 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: that being said, that being said, if you look at 82 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: if you look at if you look at the teams 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: that will be playing this weekend in the playoffs Alabama, Oklahoma, Miami, 84 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Texas A and M Tulane, Ole, Miss James Madison, Oregon, 85 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: who are some names that fans should be looking for 86 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: this week that would be of interest to the Cowboys 87 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: with some of those early round picks. 88 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: Derek Eagleton, you man, if I be rude and answer 89 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: your question with a question for you, sure, I think 90 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: we all got to kind of figure out where we're 91 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: at with this thing philosophically. One of your picks probably 92 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 5: going to be higher than the other. We don't know 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 5: what Green Bay's pick gonna look like with their current 94 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: situation that just changed for them recently, it would be 95 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: a little higher. We don't know philosophically. Derek Eagleton two questions. One, 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 5: are offensive players off the board for you when you're 97 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: considering first round picks? I'm just asking you, Nope, they're 98 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 5: not off the board for you. 99 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: I need tackles trying to think if there's another position 100 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: that I would look at. Well, you know what, I 101 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: think it's still there's still a question of will Dallas 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: be willing to pay higher no not pickings. I think 103 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: Javonte Williams is the interesting one, sure, because you know 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: the Cowboys and I don't know that they've shown us 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: in recent history that they're willing to send Zeke that 106 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: they're willing to go and pay a running back higher value. 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: And Javonte's probably going to require a higher contract than 108 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: what he got for this one year deal, right, So 109 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: are the Cowboys willing to go in on that and 110 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: say we're going to keep our guy in place? Which great, 111 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's run it back. If they're not, 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: then if you're at fourteen and you've got a really 113 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: good running back prospect, I wouldn't be against it. So 114 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: I would look at that and I would say running back, 115 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: maybe definitely both tackles. I would at least get myself 116 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: a guy that can be that can play on the 117 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: right side. I would love if you can play on 118 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: either side. That gives me a little more flexibility. But 119 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: I would love to be able to upgrade my right 120 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: tackle position. So from that standpoint, yes, I'm looking at 121 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: some offensive position. 122 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: I got one more philosophical question for you and me 123 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 5: and Broy is going to go back and forth on 124 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 5: some names philosophically. Right, Cowboys got two ones? Ye, would 125 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 5: you rather three options? Would you rather hold what you 126 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: got get like a really good player and like a 127 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: cool player. Would you trade back and end up with 128 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: four picks, like two late ones or two and the 129 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 5: three and you can get like four solid guys that 130 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 5: will kind of fill your roster out, or you feel 131 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: like the Cowboys could really use like a dude like 132 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: you was a Micah Parsons away from your defense looking 133 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 5: totally different. Maybe like another just one dude away and 134 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: maybe you can ask some other complimentary guys. You take 135 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 5: those two ones and you move up early to get 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: the best dudes you could possibly can you want to 137 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 5: trade up for one guy, trade back to get four guys. 138 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: You want to hold what you got and get two 139 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 5: maybe cool good players. 140 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: It depends on the position. It depends on the risk. 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is is the guy. 142 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: Let's say the guy that you think you. 143 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 5: Would get r vl Riese, Ohio State, probably best linebacker 144 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 5: in the draft. Yes, might make and he might be 145 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 5: the best pass rush in the draft as well. Let's 146 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 5: say quarterbacks on a run, he's around four and you 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 5: can get up to four. Yes. 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: And that's a position where yes, I would be willing 149 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: to say package my picks, let me go up and 150 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: get the best player that I think is available on 151 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, and he will immediately 152 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: solve a problem for me, which is a big problem. 153 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: Like again, I wouldn't do it for say a running back, 154 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: even if it was a really great running back. I 155 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't do it for a running back. So for the 156 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: positional value of a defensive end, I would do that. 157 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: I would maybe do it if you told me I'm 158 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: gonna get a game changing cornerback, I may consider it. 159 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Outside of that, I don't think there's another position I 160 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: would and here's the part to that. If you told 161 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: me I'm getting a really good linebacker and I'm getting 162 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: a cornerback that is pretty good, has the potential be great, 163 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: but he has somewhat whatever it is that will make 164 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: him a later first round pick. So if you can 165 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: package that together, I'm getting a really great linebacker and 166 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: a pretty good corner I might be willing to do 167 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: that as well as opposed to say, you know, four 168 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: picks in the second round, where I'm all of these 169 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: are crapshoots, like, I don't know, they may be great, 170 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: they may not work out. 171 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: I think that's the dice roll you're gonna end up 172 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: working with. And the question that you kind of handled. 173 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: Those were guys that are playing this week that the 174 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 5: Cowboys should be looking for. So that's dudes in the 175 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 5: fourteen range and dudes around the twenty. So we're not 176 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 5: looking at getting some typeterior lead dude top ten. 177 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: Unless you tell me again it's at one of those 178 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: premium positions and they are great, Like this is gonna 179 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: be a Patrick ten type cornerback. 180 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 5: Right, And honestly, I think it's worth conversation, not today, 181 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: but maybe later if the Cowboys are building this culture 182 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: thing because me and Brian talk about this all the time. 183 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: There were a ton of good players last year that 184 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: fell in the draft, and we heard just it's all 185 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: like character stuff, like good dudes that should have been 186 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: first round picks or whatever, but doctor talent, but they 187 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: don't have the character. Dropping down the board a little bit. 188 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: Cowboys love those guys you can get on discounts. But 189 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 5: later on, but I wonder if like Shoddy woul vouch 190 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 5: for him because trying to build cldure here there's another 191 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 5: conversation for another day. Yeah, but right around where we 192 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: picking it. 193 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: Catch this some real quick. Hell yeah, Brian brought us down. 194 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: I danced that thing up there. If I know, I 195 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: had a good free agency period. 196 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: For so No, that is a good place. 197 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: And to me, I mean, I'm more willing. I'm more 198 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: willing to dance forward if I if I knew that. 199 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: And I asked this question of Watch this morning, though, 200 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 3: what's the one position you would spend money on? And 201 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: Watch told me pass rusher. Derek, I'll ask you the 202 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: same question. You have a position that you would spend money. 203 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: On, either pass rush or cornerback. 204 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: Okay, say you get one of those guys. Okay, so 205 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: that kind of takes you. Now, maybe maybe you've maybe 206 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: you've addressed some things along the way, maybe you've addressed 207 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: the defensive end position. I know on this show we 208 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: can't say, well, but we've had some discussions me and 209 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: watch go back and find them. You'll see them. But 210 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: there'll be If I knew that I was going to 211 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: get maybe the premiere pass rusher in free agency and 212 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: a corner linebacker, you're damn right, I'm I'm can get 213 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: packages and those things and going forward. Right there, I 214 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: understand what you're saying about the four and it's a 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: crap shoot. Yeah, you know, but this is kind of 216 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: how maybe they think a little bit. You know, we've 217 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: we've heard in the past, well you move on from Micah, 218 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: you're gonna have the opportunity to add more players and 219 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: stuff like that. There was a time we had a 220 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: lot of confidence in this group drafting players. Still have confidence, 221 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: but maybe it's not as strong as it once was. 222 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: So it but if you told me you won free agency, 223 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: I'm dancing those picks forward and trying to get the 224 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: best player off my board and then and then that way, 225 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: I feel like I've helped my team. 226 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 5: Also too, Brian, just looking in the draft last year, 227 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: drafting about where the Cowboys are drafting. I tend to 228 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 5: like more more more players that fell in the draft 229 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: right as opposed to some dudes that that go kind 230 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 5: of early. Like I was a big Booker guy in 231 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 5: the Cowboys got Booker at twelve. But we also heard 232 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: that they like Mike Kilwilliams. I ain't like Mike Alwis right, 233 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: but having a much better year one than Mike hail Williams. 234 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 5: There's a couple of pass rushers this year to where 235 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 5: some of them could go kind of early. They like 236 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 5: them a little more than we do. But there's a 237 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 5: pass rush how about this from A and m Okay right, 238 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: cashus Howell, he's gonna be playing this week. Know how 239 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 5: to rush the passer, really good rundown guy. The reason 240 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 5: he might fall in the draft is because he's not 241 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 5: as big, So teams like to overthink this, right, you 242 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 5: may get the not as good, great body, long arm 243 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: guy to go a little early. I actually don't mind 244 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 5: the Cowboys sitting back at fourteen because the pass rusher 245 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: I actually like who he failed because he's not as big. 246 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 5: Short of arms. But the pass rush stuff is there 247 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: and the run game stuff is there. So tex Zan 248 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 5: and him this week, I'll be looking for a guy 249 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 5: like that. Bruh. 250 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're looking for an offensive tackle, they'll blocking him. 251 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: On the other side of the ball. Would be at Miami, 252 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: would be Francis Moregal. I think I've said name more 253 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: Gal ye time. I think I think that's how you 254 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: say his name. I mean, I'm gonna learn these names, 255 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: trust me. But yeah, but he used to start up 256 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: right tackle for the Hurricanes, and he started as a 257 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: true freshman. They're at Miami. He's got all the physical tools. 258 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: This is gonna be a really good matchup the technique 259 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: against a guy that has that first step quickness, that 260 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: has the power. Maybe a little bit of a shorter 261 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: arm guy and how but that's a matchup right off 262 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: the jump that you're gonna look at and you're gonna say, Okay, 263 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: there are two I guarantee you. In that early game 264 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: there were were gonna they're gonna The key's the game 265 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: and with whoever's breaking this one down, it's gonna be 266 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: about Miami's offensive line against Texas A and M's defense 267 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: and on the flip side of that. You know, Miami's 268 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: got a pretty good defense as well. And I'm sure 269 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: you know watch if we if we talked about that, 270 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: can we talk about. 271 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 5: Bang Ruby Banin, Rubbin Bain. He's another one of those 272 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 5: interesting guys that like the he he got an early 273 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: dose of draft hype, is you know what I would 274 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: call it? Uh, some people were looking at him and 275 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 5: they were saying he might be the best player in 276 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: the draft with the best edge in the draft. Boy, 277 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 5: you watch film stuff kind of weeds yourself out a 278 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 5: little bit. He's another guy that you know ran Let 279 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 5: me just say it is I say it this is 280 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 5: all the time. If you're a bad player, then you're 281 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: a tweeer. 282 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 283 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: But if you're a good player, then you're versatile, you 284 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So Ruben Banin, who I think 285 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 5: is a good player, we kind of don't know where 286 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: he would play on the next level. He's a guy 287 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: that's like two seventy five or so, bright, powerful as hell, 288 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 5: strong guy, not the most bendi dude in the world. 289 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: So now you're asking yourself, is he a small three 290 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 5: tech or is he like a really big edge guy. 291 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 5: So I think early in the season, Brian, I think 292 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 5: his hype was Warranton. He was whooping feet out there 293 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: and getting sacks and making plays and clutch plays at 294 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: the end of the game and all this kind of stuff. 295 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 5: They kind of died down a little bit and teams, 296 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 5: you know, people started looking at other pass rushes there. 297 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 5: But if he does fall, like I said earlier, cool 298 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 5: because that's where we at. We're fall guy. So I'll 299 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 5: take a Ruben Bank. He may not be the best 300 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: edge in the draft, but is he an edge that 301 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: come in and help you a team that's always talking 302 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 5: about how bad we are versus the run? And maybe 303 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 5: you could be a pass rush guy. Sometimes if you 304 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: sign some disgruntled pass rusher in the league somewhere and 305 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: Donvinezerak who takes the next step, think cool. Ruben Bank 306 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 5: kind of fits what you might be one to do 307 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: on the next level. 308 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: Bran, Yeah, you know. And and now go to the 309 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: Friday night game with with Alabama. 310 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 5: Talk about my favorite album. Go ahead, go ahead, let 311 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 5: me tell you something, man, I don't want to be 312 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 5: told so guy with Booker or nothing like that, I 313 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 5: don't want to say it again. Actually, if being pulled. 314 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: By the way you get a really good theory about 315 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: offensive line, offensive lineman, and you need to tell this 316 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: platform we. 317 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: Ain't got time, but draft show we will. I'll say 318 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: it at some point. But when you're watching Tyler Booker 319 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 5: last year, you couldn't help but to see his running 320 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 5: mate there, Cayden Proctor right next to him. And as 321 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: big as Tyler Booker is like book what six four 322 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 5: three thirty something three twenty, Cayden Proctor make him look little. 323 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: He's the left tackle for Alabama. And Derek Giegas just said, 324 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 5: I would love to have offensive lineman up here. If 325 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: Terrence still, if the Cowboys move on from Terrence, maybe 326 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: save a little money there and put that money into 327 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: some other place on the roster. Then you would have 328 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: to ask yourself, would you want to roll with some 329 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: of the young guys that you have to maybe compete 330 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 5: for a right tackle. You know there's some young guys 331 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 5: on the on the roster right now that you drafted 332 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: last year that that could possibly play right tackle for you. 333 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 5: I don't like question marks. I want to do better. 334 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: Dudes always always matter to me, and they can still 335 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: come in and compete, But that's just the league. That's 336 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: what it is. I'm taking Kayden Procter. I don't like 337 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: to switch sides of offensive linemen, but I typically think 338 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: when you're more powerful, you can do these things right. 339 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 5: When you lose the dexterity or you lose the hey, 340 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 5: I'm not used to playing on this side. If you 341 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 5: big and strong as hell and lengthy like Proctor, you 342 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: can overcome some of the sightedness with the movement there. 343 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 5: So I'm taking. 344 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: Umber Guyden have to stay on the left. If you 345 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: found a guy in the draft, let's say, and you 346 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: were like, this guy is a left tackle. 347 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: He's played more games now left tackle than he has 348 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: it right. But I'm just. 349 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: Saying, do you think he has the position flex where 350 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: he could move over the right. 351 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: I'd kick Smith out to tackle if it was drafted 352 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: guard Tyler. 353 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: I don't want to after a year of building habits 354 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: with a player that didn't have a whole bunch of habits, 355 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 5: I don't want to restart the ball over again. Like 356 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: if BB has a year of guard habits and you 357 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: go all right, make some center habits and go all right, 358 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: BB play tackle now like that does something to him, 359 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: and you know, Guiden, Guy's growing doing this thing but 360 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: I think I think Cayden proct is the hell of 361 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: got to look for it. 362 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Proctor is going to up against you know, 363 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: a guy named R. Mason Thomas, who is a is 364 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: a rush edge from Oklahoma. And I'll tell you what 365 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: you know when you watch me, where's number thirty two 366 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: and you're you're Votch always likes to talk about we 367 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: all like to talk about the bendy guys. The guy 368 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: the explosiveness Derek. I watched him against jer alma Mater, 369 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: the University of Texas. He gave those guys some fits playing. 370 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a relentless player, first step, quickness, 371 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: bendy around the corner. He has been dealing with some injuries. 372 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: Now he's he got hurt in the Tennessee game and 373 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: so now he's coming back, so he wants to showcase 374 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: what he has. Proctor is going to be fits. That 375 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: is a massive man he's going against. But he's going 376 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: to have to find a way he can win with power. 377 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: Thomas can win with power, he could also win with 378 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: that quickness. He can win with the bend This will 379 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: be a really really good match up. A couple of 380 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: games where if you're looking for edges and you're looking 381 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: for tackles. Uh, these two should be really good for 382 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: you as well. 383 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: Real quick, before we go to break, can you guys 384 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: give me any linebackers. Are any linebackers? 385 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can give you one. I could give you 386 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: the one when we talk about when you start to 387 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: talk about linebackers, you need to look with CJ. Allen 388 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: though at Georgia would be a guy. 389 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: That I think you need to playing next weekend. 390 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, playing next weekend. Oh that's right. They're in a 391 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: bye so the biology. 392 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: But no, that's all good. 393 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: So Lawson is there. But you know, loss is not 394 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: in our not in our rangements. 395 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's kind of I would say 396 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: that to me, like if you were talking about guys. 397 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: I was thinking of guys that for some reason, what 398 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: I was saying, Georgia is on the buy. So yeah 399 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: for this game. 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You should see my. 466 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 8: Man. 467 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say. You start having kids, you get 468 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: the idea you want to send them to private school. Hey, man, 469 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: it ain't cheap. It's not cheap. 470 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: I want to be like y'all so bad. 471 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: Saying it's not cheap. Man. I want to be like 472 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: I went to public school. My wife went to public school. 473 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: I think we turned out all right. Some reason we 474 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 2: thought it was necessary in our kids just high school. Man, Man, 475 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm straight. I'm just saying it's a it's a whole 476 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: different thing. Now it paid off. She ended up doing 477 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: quite well. 478 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 5: But I'm not used to seeing ambar like this, Like 479 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 5: normally I walk in, I go okay, or to ask 480 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: because she's late and she we don't need to talk 481 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: about she was just look was just very yes, yes, yes, yes. 482 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 8: And let's just say, when you have children her sacrifices, 483 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 8: you just end up making for your own pieces. It's 484 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 8: just it's yeah, it's just you just figure it out. 485 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 5: Your energy is different today, you're orange. Today, you're just like, well, 486 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: I'm and I paid too much for this and I 487 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: need to hear from someone. 488 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: And I'm just that was a nice way to put 489 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: it out. She put it. I can't say what the 490 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: hell put it? Anyway, We're back. Yeah, Amber is joined 491 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: the show. Welcome to show, and let's talk. Let's talk 492 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: a little bit about this Chargers defense versus the Cowboys office. 493 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 5: What you guys got how long you want this segment 494 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: to be? 495 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey man, we got a twenty two second minutes 496 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: a show. 497 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: Segment and then we do the next one. 498 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: Loan man, you know we could do that because I 499 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: got some other stuff we can get to. So yeah, 500 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: you questions, it's just upsetting, man, It's just upsetting. 501 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 3: You know. 502 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: The Chargers have a I think you're you're gonna have 503 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 5: a similar game plan that you kind of had last week. 504 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I think you're gonna want 505 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 5: to go out there and run the football. You're going 506 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 5: to want to attack their corners. Their past rush is 507 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 5: gonna be good. Khalil Mack is there, but he ain't 508 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 5: even the one that's been tearing it up all year. 509 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 5: Tule to a Poloto, toy to a to a Poloto. 510 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: That's it's his name. 511 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 5: Tou Lee to a Ploto. 512 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: Touey is his first name. Tuley to the first name 513 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: too we Poloto. 514 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: He has number forty five. 515 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 5: Yes, he has a He has a brother named Marl 516 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 5: and Marlin to Puloto. 517 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: One's named Marlon and one's name Touley. Yes, Tooey Tooey. 518 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're the Island Boys, you know what I'm saying. 519 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 5: So the Island Boys, and look, the draft got a 520 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: lot of Island names, get Ready, Ready, but Tully, he's 521 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: the one that's gonna get most of the pressure, most 522 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 5: of the whooping and all this kind of stuff. You 523 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: can attack their corners outside Derwin James plays Nickel. They 524 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: don't let you. 525 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: He's a beast. 526 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: He's a beast. He's great in the run game. They 527 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: don't let you get a lot of big plays. You 528 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And it's the same stuff that 529 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 5: we talk about every single week. Right, if you can 530 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 5: block them up front, then you can throw the ball 531 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 5: on their corners. The best path to victory is run 532 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 5: the football. The problem is, we came on this show 533 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 5: yesterday and we said, I don't think that the Cowboys 534 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 5: defense will be able to handle the Chargers offense in 535 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: that way. So if the Charges offense come out scoring points, 536 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: then we got to ditch everything and go throw the football. 537 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 5: And that's what they want us to do because they 538 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 5: don't give up big plays. Pardon me, they don't give 539 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 5: up big plays. And they're gonna pass rush you and 540 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 5: Nay Thomas starting and you may be having issues at 541 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 5: running back. 542 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: Back up just a second on the pass rushing, because 543 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: last week I think the issues from the standpoint. The 544 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: pass rush is and we talked about it all week. 545 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: That was a defense that is very aggressive. So how 546 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: they passed rush I think would be more because I 547 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: don't think the Cowboys have just every game this year 548 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: have been susceptible to a good pass rush. I think 549 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: it's how you rush them. If you show them a 550 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: lot of different types of exotic blisters, I think that 551 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: can cause problems. We know that when guys are, you know, 552 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 2: running stunts and games, that can cause them problems at times. 553 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: What kind of pass rush is it? 554 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 5: See, they're really good at job trying see he hearing 555 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 5: me say, Nay Thomas, Yeah, And I'm saying. 556 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 3: That we're trying to get ready for his question. 557 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 5: You ain't wrong. And I'm saying that because physically that's 558 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 5: Khalil Mack and Twuly too a plow two over there, yeah, 559 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 5: versus your compromise tackle situation. So last week I made 560 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 5: a big deal of, Hey, we need to talk and 561 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 5: communicate it and make sure that we pick up everything. Well, 562 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 5: when you see these things, it ain't really much to 563 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 5: like see and like decipher as far as the pass 564 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 5: were like the they'll blitz them, they'll blitz Drwin sometimes, 565 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 5: but that's not like the most difficult you know, the 566 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 5: most difficult part is they may gap exchange up front, 567 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 5: but the hardest part is just blocking tandling those guys. 568 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: This team they don't really blitz, yeah, I mean the 569 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: they But the thing about it is if you when 570 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: you watch one tape, you're like, wow, they're getting pressure 571 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: with four. Oh, look they're getting pressure with five. They 572 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: do a great job of not blitzing and then when 573 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: but when they do bring five, they're getting pressure half 574 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: the time. I mean they create opportunities. We saw last 575 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: week with what the Vikings were able to do. And 576 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: Derwy James, he will sacrifice himself to get somebody home. 577 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: I mean he will take a run from the secondary 578 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: and slam into a tackle to make sure that his 579 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: guy gets around. I mean you see him all the time. 580 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: The Vikings were really really good at this. I called 581 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: it coordinating blitzes. Please, you can't tell me that that 582 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: jesse Mentor and that staff with the Chargers are not 583 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 3: gonna watch that Vikings tape and come at you the 584 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: same way that. Now, can they do it? Do they 585 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: have the personnel, They have some guys that they can 586 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: absolutely line up and give you some problems. But Voch 587 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: is right though. If you once again you have to 588 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: be able to block this front. You have to be 589 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: able to whin they bring the fifth guy, you have 590 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: to be able to step up. How compromised is Williams 591 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: now with the shoulder? You know what's the situation with 592 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: Hunter Lipke. You know, all these things kind of play 593 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: into it because all of a sudden, if it's Malik 594 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: Davis doing blitz pick up stuff and doing that, you're 595 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: you're probably in a pretty bad spot. So, yeah, this 596 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: is this is gonna be one of those games where 597 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: you have to kind of figure out though what they're 598 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: going to do. It's they It's it's not like the 599 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: exotics that you saw before. This is gonna be a 600 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: lot of his own coverage. It's gonna be that they 601 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna, like I say, they're gonna take their safety. 602 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: It's almost like Brian Branch and Detroit. They're gonna take 603 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: Derwyn James. They're gonna move him around and they're gonna 604 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: find spots he's gonna play in coverage and stuff like that. 605 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 3: They play a ton of dime defense to six defensive backs, 606 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: So be ready for that. If you're the Dallas Cowboys, 607 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: you haven't seen a team play as more dime defense 608 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: than these guys, and it's part of what they do 609 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: with their packages and able to cover. I've never and 610 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 3: by the way, another thing too, when you go back 611 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 3: and watch, like I watched all their interceptions this year 612 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: that they created, this team does a great job of 613 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: putting themselves in positions to tip balls or get overthrows, 614 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: and they catch more deflected passes than any So, Dak, 615 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: if you're not sure and all of a sudden you 616 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: fired in there and the ball gets hit and knocked 617 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: in the air, it's likely it's going to come back 618 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: the other way. This team's outstanding when it comes to 619 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: going to get in the football. 620 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: One thing worth noting real quick, as you mentioned, they 621 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: play a lot of dime defense. I saw a graphic. 622 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: I wish I had it so I could give credit 623 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: to the person who put it up. But the Cowboys, 624 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: right I mean, I'm sorry, Dak Prescott right now leads 625 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: the NFL in passing yards against dime coverage. I think 626 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: it was it was Manna man Cover two and and 627 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: and Cover six. I think it was. Yeah, I think 628 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 2: those are that there is where he led the NFL. 629 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: So if they gotta do. 630 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: Something to get George Pickens going in there, absolutely, And 631 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: I asked Fats this question this morning, and I'll ask 632 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: you I'll throw it out there again. It's a good 633 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: question at the offensive coaches last two weeks, let George 634 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: Pickens down? That's the question I want to ask because 635 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: if the offensive coaches let George Pickens down the last 636 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: couple of weeks because teams are clearly playing him differently. Yeah, 637 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: and you would think though, coming off say the Kansas 638 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: City game, that maybe go okay, maybe somebody saw something, 639 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: maybe something Steve Spagnula did that Detroit was able to do. 640 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: But here's here's my only, my only, Well, the thing 641 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: that slows me down and answering that question is, I 642 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: think there's a way to take away any player in 643 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: the NFL when it comes to receivers if you're willing 644 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: to commit the resources. The question is can you take 645 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: advantage of somewhere else because they've committed more resources doing so. 646 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: If teams are doing something to take Pickens away, my 647 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: question would be, are you being able to take advantage 648 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: that with the other receivers you have? And it does 649 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: feel like they are. 650 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure that they've lost the last two games. 651 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't think I don't think they lost 652 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: this game because they couldn't get the ball of pickings. 653 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: I think they lost this game because their offensive line 654 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: failed them. They couldn't run the ball as efficiently as 655 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: they needed to, and obviously the defense. 656 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 3: I think I disagree with you because I think that 657 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: to me, with Pickens, you get Pickens and Lamb going 658 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: in a game, and it rarely happens that way. But man, 659 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: to me, there's reason they they take they try to 660 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: take George Pickens away. They do They defensive coordinators think 661 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: of your guys, he's the most important one. And in 662 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: Dallas we kind of treat oh, we've got two number 663 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: one receivers, well, damn use them both like number one receivers, 664 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: you know, find ways if you have to. We talk about, well, 665 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: they're not as effective. We're on the same side. Bos 666 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: brought up a good point this morning. We were talking. 667 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: It's like all of a sudden watching motion from one 668 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: side to the other. Start them over here, star him 669 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: over there, put him in the backfield, move him around 670 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: a little bit. Don't let people just say, Okay, we're 671 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: gonna like, we're gonna play a guy outside, and we're 672 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: gonna play a guy over the top, and we're gonna 673 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: play a guy underneath. Don't let teams do that to him. 674 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: What you think, I think that's great. I also believe 675 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: that that's not the reason why they lost this game. So, yeah, 676 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: you're right, you can get more out of your offense 677 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: if you can figure out a way to get George 678 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Pickens open. I don't think that's why they lost that game. 679 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: I think if they would have had their running game 680 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: because of their offensive line, would have given them opportunity 681 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: to be able to run the ball more. I think 682 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: if they would have been able to keep people off 683 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Dak Prescott could have found maybe George Pickens, 684 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: but certainly found a receiver that was open to get 685 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: the ball down. Feel I think they could have. If 686 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: the defense could have had a few stops, I think 687 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: they could have won this game. I think there are 688 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: so many things you have to get to as to 689 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: why this game went wrong. Way before head do more 690 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: to get George Pickins. 691 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: What's the one way they're only what's the only way 692 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: they're able to win nowadays. 693 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: And with this current team score more points. 694 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: There you go when you want to get your yeah yeah, 695 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: but wide receiver. 696 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: But if the offensive line could have blocked for Dak 697 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: to give him time to make passes, if they could 698 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: have blocked and given them the ability to continue to 699 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: their running game, which had been successful, they had to 700 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: go away from it. If those things could have happened, 701 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: it really doesn't matter if it's George Pickens or if 702 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: it's Ceedee Lamb, or if it's Ryan f Illinois for 703 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: that matter. The point is they could have moved the offense. 704 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: It was those other things that broke down way more 705 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: than it was they couldn't get the ball specifically to 706 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: George Pickens. 707 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: Well, then you got to create ways to Like I said, 708 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: you create ways to get him open so you don't 709 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: have to rely on your pass protection or your run game. 710 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: I mean that's to me throwing the ball to George Pickens. 711 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: You saw it without Ceedee Lamb being in there, ball 712 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: going down the field forty yards, whether it was PI 713 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: big plays and all that, Where is that anymore? Right? 714 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: That's without Ceedee Lamb being in there, but with Ceedee 715 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: Lamb being in there. If see Lam's can't in you 716 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: both If ceede Lamb, if ceedee Lamb hits you for 717 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: two hundred versus him in you for one hundred and 718 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: pickings in you for a hundred, does it really matter? 719 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: I think it matters, Yeah, because I think you score 720 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: more points. 721 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 5: I think Brian saying there's a way to get CD 722 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 5: two hundred and improve Pickens is fifty and get him 723 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 5: eighty possible. 724 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: Okay, great. Once again, I don't really care if it 725 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: comes from Illinois, if it comes from Pickens, if it 726 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: comes from CD. I don't think that was the reason 727 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: they lost that game. 728 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: Coordinators obviously think that Pickens is your most important player. Fair, 729 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: I mean that's that's I mean, that's you. So if 730 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: he if teams are saying he's your most important player, 731 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: shouldn't he shouldn't he be on your team the most 732 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: important player? 733 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 5: I think, what what what Derek is saying, as long 734 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: as CD is getting what two hundred yards a game? 735 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 5: Who cares? As long as as long as you putting 736 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 5: you know thirty two? 737 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: They're not scoring. 738 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: They're not right, And that to me is about the 739 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: running game. That to me is about the fact that 740 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: they had they could not run the ball as much 741 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: as they wanted to run the ball because of other 742 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: factors and other things that were happening in the game. So, yes, 743 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: I agree they didn't score enough points. I don't think 744 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: that was related necessarily to the fact that Pickens didn't 745 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: have an outstanding game. 746 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: I think they were. They they have forgotten George dickens Man. 747 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: Well, look, at the end of the day, I really 748 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: believe that this team is best when they can have 749 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: a good mixture of running pass h I think that 750 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: slows down the pass rush. When they can have an 751 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: effective running game, and if the defense can just get 752 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: a few stops a game, it allows them to be 753 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: able to continue to play that they can. 754 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: Do an offense. 755 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 4: Well, both of them. 756 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you throw the ball's probably the best 757 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: thing they did. 758 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 759 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 5: To Derek's point, and I'm not speaking for him or 760 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 5: anything like that, I think Derek. 761 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 8: Her mediator or whatever however you say that. 762 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: Mediator, And I think what Derek is also saying is 763 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 5: teams at some point are going to get tired of 764 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 5: Ceede Lamb getting the honey of yards and a half 765 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 5: and then they'll eventually funnel back to him and they'll 766 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: go right back, and maybe you just waiting on your opportunity. 767 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: I believe they've always doubled, and they haven't doubled a lot. 768 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: I believe they've always doubled George Pickens more than they've 769 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: doubled CD Lamb. 770 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: But I do think that that's the nature of having 771 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: two really great wide receivers, is that teams are going 772 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: to decide as they go which one is it better 773 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: for us to take away? And at what points in 774 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: games is it better for us to take him away? 775 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: Do we know on third downs they love to do this, 776 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: so let's make sure we pay a little extra attention 777 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 2: this guy during third downs. That to me is that's 778 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: the beauty of having him. So you can always say, 779 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: I don't care who you want to take away, take 780 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: away whoever you want to take away. I got the 781 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: other guy, and that means you're paying more attention to them, 782 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: which means this guy is going to have single coverage 783 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be able to take advantage of that. 784 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not being funed. I seriously think I'm sorry. 785 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 5: I seriously think this is what Brian is saying. If 786 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 5: you look at what the Rams are doing right Sean 787 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 5: McVay has a thing in his offense to where even 788 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 5: if you feel like you're about to take Pooka away, 789 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 5: you can't. I guess he's saying, is where's the Cowboys's 790 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 5: emergency playing? Are you trying to take Pickings away? What 791 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 5: do I do now to get Pickings back over? Because 792 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 5: we need both? 793 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: So does that mean if that's the case, does that 794 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: mean that in the games where Pooka doesn't have a 795 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: lot of production, sure that they just choose not to 796 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: use him. 797 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 5: You know, Adams does get more, But there hasn't been 798 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 5: a game like GP was like taken away. I don't 799 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 5: think there's a game where Pooka was taken away. I 800 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: think that's what Brank kind of say. 801 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: Well, the question that would be, do you think Pooka 802 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: and Pickings are the same receiver? Man? 803 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 5: They both big physical dudes man poop. Probably you know, 804 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 5: do a little more on the routes, you know what 805 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 5: I'm saying. But yeah, you know, but you know. 806 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: I think that helps it. Right, if a team is 807 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 2: saying we're gonna we're gonna do some things, your ability 808 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: to run Chris routes and do more routes, does that 809 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: not help that that player have the ability to be 810 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: able to get open even in those situations where they're 811 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: trying to take him away. 812 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 5: I think what Brian is saying, and my thoughts totally 813 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 5: removed from this, is that he would rather have two 814 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 5: receivers kind of go eighty and seventy rather than one 815 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 5: go one fifty and the other go thirty, because you 816 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 5: need the you need GP to do something at this point. Yeah, 817 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, you don't need Flow 818 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 5: to come in and have forty yards. Like Flow getting 819 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 5: forty is cool, but you would rather take that forty 820 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 5: and put it on GP to make it eighty for him. 821 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 3: I think the chance of him getting to say the 822 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: eighty yards of the extra forty yards or whatever it is, yeah, 823 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: probably means points for me and where flowing away. I 824 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: don't think that's the case. 825 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 8: I was gonna say. Even Sheldonheimer when asked the question, 826 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 8: he didn't blame it in the same like, oh, well, 827 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 8: the defense just completely to Pickens away. He didn't use 828 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 8: that as an excuse whatsoever. He was very upfront and said, yeah, 829 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 8: we should have involved George Pickens into the game a lot. 830 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 8: More so, he recognized that for whatever reason, they kind 831 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 8: of didn't really focus on getting the ball to Pickens 832 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 8: and just spread it around. So to me, that says 833 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 8: that we're on part with what we saw from that game, 834 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 8: and we've seen it in the past. There are many 835 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 8: many other games where Pickens is not even making the catch, 836 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 8: but he's still being productive, so you have to incorporate 837 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 8: him into the game regardless. 838 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 5: We have had a loan Pickins PM a while basically 839 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 5: is with yeah, again, that's fair. 840 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 2: Ambard does it again, Yeah, that's fair. All right, We're 841 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: going to take our final break. 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Bank of America Corporation. 907 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 8: Back to the Break ATNT Connecting changes Everything. 908 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're in the final segment of Break Live 909 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Starchain to Day. 910 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: This segment's brought to you a BYuT blockchain dot Com. Hey, 911 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: here we go. Let's talk about I have some names 912 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: for you guys. I want you tell me how you 913 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: think they've been performing here lately. Let's start with Cooper Bebe. 914 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: Hey man b BBE pushing folk around. BB is what 915 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 5: we thought it was gonna be. A year two year 916 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 5: two BB, No nick BB. I think I always wanted 917 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 5: to advocate for being powerful at center. You know, like 918 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 5: a lot of teams try to hide center and they 919 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 5: put it between two powerful guards. I think big Tyler 920 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 5: being Big Tyler and Booker having a really good rookie year. 921 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 5: I think that's just making powerful center BB even more powerful. 922 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 5: So I think when we walk into games, me and 923 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 5: Brian talk about it. Hey, they got a good one 924 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 5: tech or good three tech over there, but you can 925 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 5: list that as not a disadvantage for us because we're 926 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 5: powerful enough to deal with those guys. 927 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 7: Man. 928 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 5: That's how the bb're doing great. 929 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 8: This is off topic a little bit. 930 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, take over the show. 931 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 8: Do you think it's the chat? No? I heard the question. 932 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 8: But it's just like when you see the comments about 933 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 8: DAK and like the hate towards DAK, Like what are 934 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 8: you watching? What game are you watching? You can say 935 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 8: that about other seasons other years, but this year, what 936 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 8: have you been watching? Well, No, at the end of 937 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 8: it is connected because now we're talking online. Okay, maybe 938 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 8: maybe he's part of it. 939 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 10: He's right there. 940 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 8: I mean, however, ask you for grades. 941 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 5: I get mad, I promise I get mad at him too, Ambro, 942 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 5: but I just gotta I gotta let it go. 943 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 4: Man. 944 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 5: That is phenomenal. He would just like. 945 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 8: That's the thing. It just really bothers me when people 946 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 8: want to criticize things that don't make sense. That means 947 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 8: you don't watch the games, That means you don't know 948 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 8: the game. That means you know nothing because the way 949 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 8: that has been playing regardless of what the old line 950 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 8: has been doing. Again, he has been masking the issues 951 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 8: that they've had all throughout the season lately. That's when 952 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 8: he's been getting attacked a lot more because one can 953 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 8: only handle so much. Okay, so it gets to a 954 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 8: point where he's getting pressure. He can't connect with the receivers. 955 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 8: He doesn't have the balance with the running game there too. 956 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, I think Dak 957 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 8: has had an amazing year. 958 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 2: Uh. 959 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 8: He started off very very strong, then it started declining 960 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 8: because of the performance of other people. Okay, he's been 961 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 8: connecting the interceptions, haven't It occurred a few times, but 962 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 8: it hasn't been the main issue. 963 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 5: But anyways, with Bibe, to answer Darius point Deck, I 964 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 5: like you Boebe. 965 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 8: He's had a good connection with Dak. You know, we 966 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 8: haven't talked about problems there. You see, we're all bringing 967 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 8: we're bringing him back together. So yeah, yeah, Biby, he's 968 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 8: he's been doing good. I like what I've seen from 969 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 8: him so far, and I think even next year he'll 970 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 8: be even better when he has a full year without 971 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 8: dealing with any kind of injuries and it has a 972 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 8: full year with everybody in the. 973 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 2: Line soone. 974 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: The coordination between the Guards and the Sinners have been 975 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 3: much better. Early in the season. We kind of starts 976 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 3: all the problems with the yeah, with the exchange stuff, 977 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: with the with the passing of stunts and all that. 978 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 3: You see that now far less what's going on. Chargers 979 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 3: are going to try and do it a little bit 980 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 3: to you. But I think I think your Sinner is 981 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: doing a really good job of seeing what's going on 982 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 3: and being able to adjust to it real quick. 983 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 2: Before we Enduke schoon Maker and. 984 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 5: Broy what you think about Deck's relationship with Lou Schoonmaker, 985 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 5: Like how you think their connection is improved by the year. 986 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 8: Scootmaker has improved actually, and it's not where you would 987 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 8: like it to be. I would say I have a 988 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 8: special feeling towards Schoonmaker because I see how much I 989 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 8: see how hard he works, I see how much work 990 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 8: he puts into trying to improve. At this point in 991 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 8: his career, I would have expected him to be a 992 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 8: lot better than what he currently is. I think there's 993 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 8: still room for improvement in the passing, like him catching 994 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 8: the ball, but also the pass protection there, but overall 995 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 8: he's better than last year. He's still improved. But what 996 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 8: year is this now? Three year three that he's not 997 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 8: where I would have liked him. 998 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 5: If Luke was a fourth round pick, I probably wouldn't 999 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 5: think too much of it. But he's the two. So 1000 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 5: we have to approach, we have to talk about him 1001 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 5: like he's the two. He's not living up to the two. 1002 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 8: But I just feel like the guy he really does 1003 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 8: work hard. No, I mean he made you hope he 1004 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 8: would get show a lot better. 1005 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 3: He made a hell of a play the other day 1006 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 3: catch and he's capable of doing that. You just haven't 1007 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 3: seen that nearly enough. 1008 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, is he Is it a point now where if 1009 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: you were trying to if you had to put them 1010 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: in rank order, is he the third best tight end 1011 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: you have on this team? 1012 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 5: I would like to see Brevin get more opportunities before 1013 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 5: I say that Brevin's the second guy. I just kind 1014 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 5: of want to see Brevin a little more. But Luke's 1015 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 5: done more, so you got to say Luke's the second. 1016 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that the one thing that I 1017 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 3: could say about Brevin is his hands have improved. I 1018 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 3: think he really fought the ball, you know, the last 1019 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 3: you know, last year and then this season we saw 1020 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 3: him training camp and all making a lot more place. 1021 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 3: He just hasn't had the opportunities to say the others 1022 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 3: have had. I like to believe that he could be 1023 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 3: better than Luke Schoomaker, but you just haven't seen the receptions. 1024 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 3: You know, the hands. I'd like to see that first, 1025 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 3: but it's we're running out of time on that. 1026 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 8: But with him, it's like you've seen more out of 1027 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 8: him a lot sooner than with no Schoomakers. With Brevin, 1028 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 8: if you put them in a timeline, she's achieved more 1029 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 8: a lot sooner than Schoonmakers. So that's why I think 1030 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 8: eventually he'll give you a lot more, but he's still 1031 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 8: ahead of Schoomaker in that sense. 1032 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, I would actually spend these 1033 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: next three weeks giving a little more time to brevn 1034 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: span for it. I want to know as I'm going 1035 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: into the offseason what I really think of him and 1036 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: his abilities and can he be more than he's than 1037 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 2: how they've used him to this point, because I do 1038 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: think might be just my opinion, but I think he's 1039 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 2: the best blocking tight end you have on the team, 1040 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 2: and I think i'd want to find out if I 1041 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 2: can put him in more roles where I'm expecting him 1042 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: to catch the ball and see if he can deliver, 1043 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: because if he can, now he becomes a really really 1044 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: interesting commodity for this team. So I would actually use 1045 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: these last three weeks to get him a little more 1046 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 2: burn to see how that plays out. All right, appreciate 1047 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: you guys, Jones. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll wrap up 1048 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 2: the week. Let you know what we think is gonna 1049 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 2: happen this Sunday till then. For Vox Lombardi, Brian brought 1050 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: us Namogarci. I'm Derek Eagletman. This has been The Break 1051 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 2: live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 1052 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1053 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.