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Speaker 1: We have my Homeboyhood post Men professor Milly mailing here. Millie,
Speaker 1: what's up, bro man? Everything man, We've been through a
Speaker 1: whole lot, this whole entire week man. So we're sitting
Speaker 1: here right now, we've been to discussing. Let's get into
Speaker 1: it still. Let's get into it, you know, this weekend, um,
Speaker 1: and just to set the narrative up for everybody out here,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure these millions of people that don't see
Speaker 1: the activities that was going on. James was actually down
Speaker 1: there for a function for the youth, to serve the
Speaker 1: youth of Dallas, Texas. And that's what I understood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was down there. You know, it was down to
Speaker 1: do a positive thing. Well, first let's let's let James, uh,
Speaker 1: let people know what his intention was. What's going you know,
Speaker 1: we just jumping right into it to James, what was
Speaker 1: the purpose of of of this weekend? This past weekend? Well,
Speaker 1: I got a phone call from mom, can't ask me
Speaker 1: what I participate and talking to these kids at the
Speaker 1: campsite for the weekend, and you know that's right up
Speaker 1: my audey, that's what I want to do. So I man,
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, he said, uh, but you don't fly.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't worry about nothing. So I made preparations.
Speaker 1: I hopped in my car and I went down there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you know, keeping it one hunted,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, he asked me what I do, uh
Speaker 1: do the podcast show? I said, yeah, I can do
Speaker 1: the show. I'm down here. And that was right on
Speaker 1: time for me, because you know, I wanted to speak
Speaker 1: to Charleston. You know what I'm saying. I felt that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't getting across to this brother. I had to
Speaker 1: phone conversations with him, and uh, you know, just speaking
Speaker 1: to him previous thirty minutes ago. His agenda was totally different,
Speaker 1: but Mines was on point. I already knew what I
Speaker 1: was going down there for. It wasn't to jump on
Speaker 1: Chorles and cuts chosen. I was. I was starting no ship.
Speaker 1: I'm going down here for the for the kids. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I do the show. And as I'm doing the show,
Speaker 1: uh my boy, hit me watch the left right side.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, put a pistol down there. So he not
Speaker 1: even knowing, I'm already up on the game. So now
Speaker 1: I leaning back to my hat. Now I'm paying attention
Speaker 1: to him, and you know now that I'm doing my work,
Speaker 1: so you know, when he gets all out ready and everybody,
Speaker 1: he pointed to I can stretch them off the list
Speaker 1: of who I gotta take a posts out of. So
Speaker 1: I'm i'm I'm watching the whole scene. So I'm talking,
Speaker 1: and this dude started talking and then he just started
Speaker 1: with the bloods and the crypts again. And come on, man,
Speaker 1: this is I've told you you disrespecting the day you
Speaker 1: you you're doing too much right And when he stood up,
Speaker 1: now I can show him. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, left your pistols sitting in the chair right here.
Speaker 1: So before he can go back to his seat, I'm
Speaker 1: right there right in his faith like this. So at
Speaker 1: the same time he had me heated by the city,
Speaker 1: was saying like this motherfucker ain't getting it. But I'm thinking, man,
Speaker 1: if I hit this little dude, man, I mean he
Speaker 1: little I'm looking down at and you say little, give
Speaker 1: us an idea of what little is. He's about one fifteen, uh,
Speaker 1: real fragile, skinny guy. And and I was standing over him.
Speaker 1: And then I never had an intent to hurt to
Speaker 1: do because Huncle always talked to me about this and
Speaker 1: that and that and this of him and he don't
Speaker 1: mean no well, no difference. Well, somebody has to check
Speaker 1: the dude. Somebody has to stop the ship. So I
Speaker 1: see talking to him through conversation wasn't working, just just
Speaker 1: befriending the coming stations. So we went there. Uh, I
Speaker 1: sat back down. He started to say something, and I
Speaker 1: just knew I couldn't take another peep of his voice,
Speaker 1: so you better get up and walk away. So I
Speaker 1: just got up and walked away from the situation. But
Speaker 1: right after I walked down, I went to my car,
Speaker 1: went to the trunk, pop me and motherfucking made me
Speaker 1: a drink, and uh, I'm cool. You stay ready, you
Speaker 1: ain't got to get Oh, I ain't got to get there.
Speaker 1: And you know, people, you know this, this is what
Speaker 1: I did for a living there. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I told you all before, you know, the gang like
Speaker 1: it was a job to me because you know, you
Speaker 1: just can't go out that from porch and just walking
Speaker 1: around and just not pay attention to what, you know,
Speaker 1: your surroundings is. So we peeped the hole surround him
Speaker 1: when we got there. Then I peeped a little you know,
Speaker 1: the podcast show, and you know, I made myself smith.
Speaker 1: This is where are people sitting. They can watch everything
Speaker 1: right there, and you know, now and I'm not knowing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it turned out to be a
Speaker 1: little misunderstanding. Fathers Okay, when they told me he got
Speaker 1: his pistol. Now I'm angry because he got his pistol down,
Speaker 1: I can't let him get nowhere near it. And then
Speaker 1: he funked up and got went by it went by,
Speaker 1: it walked away from the pistol. So when he did that,
Speaker 1: I'm in California, nigga, Man, you don't sucked up. So
Speaker 1: and when they're getting close back to that. But the
Speaker 1: whole time, I'm you know, I got old Lucy on
Speaker 1: my hill, you know what I mean. So it was,
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was crazy. And then they
Speaker 1: down this uh bright Dogan whoo whoo. Man, I met
Speaker 1: that brother. He was one hundred of me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if if that was the purpose
Speaker 1: of going down there to man, if anybody knows, you
Speaker 1: will not get no points off uh brackpacking or doing
Speaker 1: something to chose Whitey. He is little as mother, He's
Speaker 1: a little dude. And I don't I don't think it's
Speaker 1: worth it, you know how we you know, when we
Speaker 1: was growing up. You don't get points for that. No,
Speaker 1: you don't get no stranger. James, he really don't understand
Speaker 1: this West Coast culture because in this culture you can't
Speaker 1: make up. You can't make a living off of fuck you, nigga,
Speaker 1: bitch hole, or even calling me and us men right
Speaker 1: yourself and James, I mean still right in our culture,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen if you call a nigga a bit,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get check off on. And that's and I
Speaker 1: think that's just being a man period, Because it ain't
Speaker 1: too much that riled my nerves. I'd like to look
Speaker 1: at myself as a little too evolved for the bullshit.
Speaker 1: But the man called me a big or something like that,
Speaker 1: we gotta fight you almost damn. They gotta recog nigga.
Speaker 1: You gotta really go in on the nigga call you
Speaker 1: a big. You gotta make him stay on that ship. Well,
Speaker 1: in Texas, it seemed to be okay for me and
Speaker 1: to talk to one another that way. But we don't
Speaker 1: stand man. I in Texas, those guys don't. They're not
Speaker 1: disrespectful like that. For the most, everybody I ran across
Speaker 1: in Texas was one honey, all the people I ran across,
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with with un damn and and and
Speaker 1: and it ain't them. It was just one individual. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wasn't alluding to that. But what I used is
Speaker 1: the ten ninety rule. Tem per cent of anything can
Speaker 1: topple of everything. He's part of that tem percent. Well,
Speaker 1: what what pisces me off is that he don't have
Speaker 1: no gang background. So how can you say funk this
Speaker 1: and funk that? So it's kobuky therapy? What? What is what? What?
Speaker 1: Like I said, we had Charleston on the show. His
Speaker 1: direction wasn't funk our heritage. You get me? Um, why
Speaker 1: did he turn Is this his platform to get bigger recognition?
Speaker 1: What is his platform for wanting to just come out
Speaker 1: and signal out, fuck crips and bloods. I have no clue.
Speaker 1: I have no clue where he turned them. One time
Speaker 1: we we do the show, Chawston cool. Then the next
Speaker 1: thing out here? Man, you hear truse If I'm understanding,
Speaker 1: he has no no hood affiliation? Right, No, Well he'd
Speaker 1: been through like like I it was my understanding. Uh,
Speaker 1: Raymond Washington daughter was with us, you know, ray ray
Speaker 1: was there from my understanding. When he went to Nipsey
Speaker 1: Hustle's funeral, he was right there with her and and
Speaker 1: they were all kicking it or whatever. But fathers hanging
Speaker 1: in hood and been from the hood, King Baba Louis,
Speaker 1: wouldn't his big homie, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: all the guys that he came out and with our
Speaker 1: hat come down to Dallas to textas, wouldn't the homies
Speaker 1: he just introduced them to certain ship now is to
Speaker 1: me he formed a relationship with him, right, But that
Speaker 1: don't make you like this hood experts, this gang expert
Speaker 1: where you just oh, these niggas are moved. So now
Speaker 1: every blood in crypt is basically broke niggas living with
Speaker 1: their mama. Niggas ain't got no car niggas. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Now, you're putting everybody in one basket
Speaker 1: because you can't do that. From what he has to understand,
Speaker 1: This is what I try to tell him. One like
Speaker 1: me and Glasses, is that you got cryptics police officers.
Speaker 1: You got crypt and bloods police officers. Now you got
Speaker 1: some of them. The nurses, You've got catt driving trucks,
Speaker 1: I mean ship you see niggas in sports, you who
Speaker 1: associated themselves much more. Not that we try to glorify
Speaker 1: the ship being crypts and bloods, but it's what we did,
Speaker 1: and we we evolved from that ship. I mean, you like,
Speaker 1: you know, entertainers like myself, you get me. We all
Speaker 1: come from different walks and we have grown as men
Speaker 1: to where you don't have to credit that. But that's
Speaker 1: a part of our heritage being being you know, you know,
Speaker 1: James a prime example of that, you know, being one
Speaker 1: of the dudes that's most respected dude in the streets.
Speaker 1: Got a podcast, it's popping, got you know, the radio,
Speaker 1: it's other stuff. You evolved past that. But the thing
Speaker 1: what he doesn't understand is that that's a neighborhood. It's
Speaker 1: a neighborhood thing too, And you got people in the
Speaker 1: game in every neighborhood. And this is just my observation.
Speaker 1: You're correcting if I'm wrong, But in every neighborhood, I know,
Speaker 1: it's only really two or three niggas that's really with
Speaker 1: just the you know them them to hear, the just
Speaker 1: the ones that you can't just have absolutely no control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you got a couple of cats that got
Speaker 1: the homie that got the squad, and you've got the
Speaker 1: other the home he was playing football, basketball or just
Speaker 1: going to school. And you you got the niggas who
Speaker 1: are making the big bread. You know, everybody had the
Speaker 1: ballers from the neighborhood. And like you said, there's all
Speaker 1: walks of life from the neighborhood. Uh different factions. Everybody
Speaker 1: got a position and my body, I think that this
Speaker 1: limited mindset is applicable to what we do in the
Speaker 1: West Coast. When he's obviously he's in Texas right doing
Speaker 1: whatever he's doing. He's been out of here a few times.
Speaker 1: But a few times he's been out here. Can he
Speaker 1: really have a definition for what we do? It don't do? No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think he he don't have no concept of
Speaker 1: what I the California is. And then the whole thing
Speaker 1: about it is he said they emulate California, but you're
Speaker 1: emulate in California because you watch boys in the hood.
Speaker 1: Uh min. It's just aside that that was gonna be
Speaker 1: my next point, you know what I'm saying. So this
Speaker 1: is why they say they've been hood winked. Every man
Speaker 1: has a choice, especially at the fifteen fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be a gang banger, say
Speaker 1: you don't want to be it because what you see
Speaker 1: in the movies, you see violence. You don't see catch
Speaker 1: uh hanging together and making money and and and you
Speaker 1: know as one you see violence. So those movies promoted violence,
Speaker 1: So why would you want to be a part of that?
Speaker 1: But this is where they was at. So you know
Speaker 1: me personally, you know, the brother mush have went through
Speaker 1: something in his life for him to feel the way
Speaker 1: he feels. But all of a sudden, just bad Because
Speaker 1: if you felt like that, you never came to California
Speaker 1: and kicked it. You never came out here and hung out,
Speaker 1: And then now you can't come out here and hang out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't understand what was his his his transition from uh,
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to come on the show and come
Speaker 1: out here year that you know, mingo with motherfucker's and
Speaker 1: then to turn around and go fuck them niggers. One
Speaker 1: thing that this internet, the Internet has done a lot
Speaker 1: of good things, right, but it gave everybody everybody is
Speaker 1: not meant to be on the camera, you know, or
Speaker 1: or have access like that you know, we was coming up,
Speaker 1: we didn't have no YouTube and all that, so it's
Speaker 1: like everything was kind of seen that face value and
Speaker 1: live in the real time. It's like now, so you've
Speaker 1: got people that the attention can be addictive. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: look at the trend the way stuff is trending. You
Speaker 1: had to do the Tennessee that's a YouTuber that was
Speaker 1: putting the frank and somebody prank and somebody shot and
Speaker 1: killed him. You had the other young brother out here
Speaker 1: that we don't know what was behind, you know, Andy Red.
Speaker 1: You had him to where he got shot. And that's
Speaker 1: not counting Bob down there in the in the jungles exactly.
Speaker 1: And it's just so much stuff. It's real destructive and dangerous.
Speaker 1: Now that's why I tell these young influence. I get
Speaker 1: hit up all the time by cats. How can I
Speaker 1: do this and do that? I tell him first of
Speaker 1: a former identity, on something that's authentic, not off the
Speaker 1: back of being the shock jock stuff. Because the shock
Speaker 1: jock stuff is making you so far. I can name
Speaker 1: you ten niggas that do cameom win in the past
Speaker 1: eight months that popping here and and disappear because you
Speaker 1: have to continue on with the funny and the menagerie.
Speaker 1: When you start something, bro, if you start off that way,
Speaker 1: I can't come on here telling everybody to suck my
Speaker 1: dick and doing this and that cuts of people out
Speaker 1: in the next week preaching a message of positivity and peace.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be two MW points. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: two MW points. And with these cats. Got to understand
Speaker 1: is that it's real life. Here's people as serious. Bro.
Speaker 1: I told you know, shout out the um, shout out
Speaker 1: Duke Berry. But I told them cats a few months
Speaker 1: ago when the one video came out talking about the army,
Speaker 1: I said, man, listen, I said, this cat is getting
Speaker 1: into some stuff dog that he don't know where you're
Speaker 1: getting into us a whole another ram. It's a whole
Speaker 1: another ram. And I know as far as our Gangster
Speaker 1: Chronicles platform I take, but we do very serious. That's
Speaker 1: why I tell people off the rip. I'm cool with
Speaker 1: everybody out on never things from somewhere. James is from somewhere.
Speaker 1: Ain't from nowhere. But you understand, you follow what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You food what I'm saying, Oh big ja, what what
Speaker 1: should be our objective moving forward and what the outcome
Speaker 1: should we be looking for. Man, we should be looking
Speaker 1: we we really need a uh away out. We need
Speaker 1: to find how we can all get together, like like
Speaker 1: like that brother came down there. You gotta you got
Speaker 1: a mob, dude, and you got a car park there.
Speaker 1: You know, you got two guys and they pretty much
Speaker 1: on the same page. You know. He called me on
Speaker 1: the phone said, brother, I don't think you should take
Speaker 1: a wrong approach. I think you should be easy with
Speaker 1: this cat because he, you know, a cannon, so I
Speaker 1: know he wouldn't coming down there to be like offen
Speaker 1: the gun holders. Dude. You know what I'm saying. All
Speaker 1: you gotta do is get him. It wouldn't nothing like that.
Speaker 1: So plus, as as black men, we're growing up. You
Speaker 1: can see we're coming out of it because you see
Speaker 1: you see bloods and crips hanging together all the time
Speaker 1: now and then you just and they ain't on no
Speaker 1: selling dope. You got you got them working together, just
Speaker 1: real ship. So we gotta reach these young men that
Speaker 1: that I don't believe that that this ship don't change
Speaker 1: because everybody got to walk out that motherfucking do every morning,
Speaker 1: every morning we haven't been through so much in so
Speaker 1: many motherfucking years. You know this ain't no brand new ship.
Speaker 1: This ship has been here since the early photies, the
Speaker 1: late fifties. That our parents was gang bangers, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Our uncles, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And they're just trickling down and it's just getting worse
Speaker 1: than worse. I got a deeper question for a hey,
Speaker 1: being that you grew up in the eighties, right, You
Speaker 1: come up through the neighborhoods, and you was actually you
Speaker 1: was actually in that cop then phenomenon, right, and you
Speaker 1: saw a lot of things and you actually rapped about
Speaker 1: because I've got you as a lyricist, right, and you
Speaker 1: actually were speaking about the situations and scenarios that you
Speaker 1: witnessed day to day. But today's rapper have it's emulating James,
Speaker 1: emulating you, emulate myself and telling these stories and that's
Speaker 1: becoming the driving force of the w the Charleston White
Speaker 1: and a lot of these other people when the story
Speaker 1: is misconstrued and the story is not accurate, but they
Speaker 1: make it seem like they're the ones that's doing it,
Speaker 1: but doing well. Let me ask you this right here,
Speaker 1: and you text on the powerful point. But but no,
Speaker 1: this has got something to do with that. If you
Speaker 1: listen to this right here. Growing up in the hood, Yeah,
Speaker 1: boy was a year my peers didn't know what was
Speaker 1: in store. A little here already a kid came with fags,
Speaker 1: trying to pay my dudes learn the tricks of the trade.
Speaker 1: He was describing every little niggai I knew, not just
Speaker 1: out here, but across the country. A dude coming of age,
Speaker 1: and he started to seeing all the homie over here
Speaker 1: got the second time men get mine now well, growing well,
Speaker 1: growing up in the era. I grew up in Um.
Speaker 1: Like I used to tell people as a kid, like
Speaker 1: lionels age, I'm pretty sure we all had dreams of
Speaker 1: being something different than we work, depending on where we
Speaker 1: grew up. Um. I grew up in Compton. Uh started off,
Speaker 1: you know, I had the normal household, mom and dad,
Speaker 1: father work, mom's work. But when they split and moms
Speaker 1: went by herself. And now I'm growing up in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood and I'm the age of nine and ten and eleven,
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing the drug dealers on the corner. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing the dudes come through doing dry bys and dudes
Speaker 1: getting killed. That still fascinated me to a point of
Speaker 1: these are my choices, you feel me. Um, not that
Speaker 1: that I wanted to pretend to be or you know,
Speaker 1: I just felt as a youth growing up in Compton,
Speaker 1: that was the road I had to take because that
Speaker 1: was it. You get me. Single mom in the household. Uh,
Speaker 1: she was all trying to work and supply ship. But
Speaker 1: then I was left to the vices of the streets.
Speaker 1: You get me, Um, Moms wasn't you know, giving me
Speaker 1: allowances and ship like you know ship, You see what
Speaker 1: typical motherfucker's on TV so to speak. Uh, kids getting
Speaker 1: allowances and getting to go to whatever whatever. I didn't
Speaker 1: get all of that. So when I saw the drug
Speaker 1: dealer on the corner, or I see the niggas belling
Speaker 1: impacts with their rags out their back pockets and ship,
Speaker 1: that gave me the sense of family, of wanting to
Speaker 1: be long. So that's why I wrote those songs. I did,
Speaker 1: and I participated in gang banging and selling dope and
Speaker 1: all that because I felt that that was a no
Speaker 1: way out situation. At one point, did you realize that
Speaker 1: the streets was undefeated and you need to change directions
Speaker 1: because the streets that you think about the streets as
Speaker 1: a total, it's undefeated. Definitely. Um well, I guess to
Speaker 1: the point to where when you start um doing for
Speaker 1: yourself and becoming a family dude or you know, getting
Speaker 1: the mind state of I'm seeing a lot of dudes
Speaker 1: still get killed going back to those things that you
Speaker 1: grew up within, the value in that and those lessons. Definitely,
Speaker 1: I started seeing like from the time I was youthed
Speaker 1: to about what time, because I was still hanging in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood at twenty five years old. You get me.
Speaker 1: I still I still money even though I was I
Speaker 1: felt like Nipsey So Nipsey Hustle wasn't the first one
Speaker 1: to do that. Oh no, No, I still at the
Speaker 1: point of where I was shipped. But I'm coming off
Speaker 1: tour and I'm going straight to the neighborhood because what
Speaker 1: else did I know? I mean, I didn't know ship else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the house, I got the cars, I got
Speaker 1: the jewelry, I got all that ship and Nigga's telling me,
Speaker 1: why the funk are you over here? You get me?
Speaker 1: But I'm still feeling like I gotta have that connection like, like,
Speaker 1: it's important for me to still have that connection to
Speaker 1: the neighborhood because I didn't want people to think that
Speaker 1: the ship I was writing about or experience with some
Speaker 1: ship I was doing from afar, like I grew up
Speaker 1: in that ship. But it came to a point to
Speaker 1: where now I got kids, you get me, Um, I'm
Speaker 1: hanging in the neighborhood every day. You know, it's still
Speaker 1: the same ship going on. I'm give a fuck if
Speaker 1: I'm the nigga that's wrapping and still whatever. It's still
Speaker 1: niggas from that past life that still look at me
Speaker 1: as nigga you affiliated. So even let's work, even though yeah,
Speaker 1: even though I'm like okay everything or whatever, you still
Speaker 1: got the a. Man, we need dope, we need guns,
Speaker 1: fuck them, wrap them wraps. Niggas like niggas like fuck
Speaker 1: the wrap tickets and fucking being just passes to the shows.
Speaker 1: They like, nigga, we need guns and dope over here.
Speaker 1: So that's when I started going, whoa like you get
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, because now you're about to get caught
Speaker 1: up into conspiracy exactly. So that's when I had to
Speaker 1: make a choice. And then you had certain niggas like James,
Speaker 1: who would tell me why the fund? You keep coming
Speaker 1: over here? You get me like why? So here's a
Speaker 1: deeper question for James. James the highlight of death row right,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about at its peak, he was around millionaires,
Speaker 1: billion maybe even billionaires, and and you saw a lot
Speaker 1: of money being transferred and and happening right there, very
Speaker 1: right in front of your eyes. Motherfucker's were using credit cards,
Speaker 1: got black cards. All of those guys have money, man,
Speaker 1: But you know we didn't. We didn't have that right
Speaker 1: here to the leak with him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like my brother Alton and and uh Big Jake. They
Speaker 1: went in there trying to learn the music and God
Speaker 1: did little artists and whatever. But you can't get there
Speaker 1: when your people don't want to see you there, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that was my question, though,
Speaker 1: How was being around all this, seeing all this business
Speaker 1: go down? Why wasn't nobody said, wait a minute, hold up, man,
Speaker 1: look what's happening to us. Let's get on this business.
Speaker 1: Because we were in full control of a multime million
Speaker 1: dollar I did that. I told all the homies when
Speaker 1: our thinking brains was m O. B. And ship sugar
Speaker 1: ring was m O b I'm talking about bigging his
Speaker 1: chain and the year they had to be bigger. He
Speaker 1: rolling investors and Mercedes, and we're riding around in seventy
Speaker 1: seven Cadillacs, Uh Caprice Classics. Hold up. When we pull up,
Speaker 1: the people look at us, and then she'll leading the
Speaker 1: pack when they see us all ship the bell housed
Speaker 1: and the cats didn't want to come park our cars. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all don't see the big picture here. Man, she gets
Speaker 1: making money, but he explored nuts. Man, we gotta just
Speaker 1: as long as y'all show up the other people exactly,
Speaker 1: so we gotta have me. Man, we gotta get this.
Speaker 1: So at that time, Bob, you've been drinking too much,
Speaker 1: you'll be tripping. They don't see the big picture. I do.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I know what's going on here. I
Speaker 1: know where the money at. But then I sucked up
Speaker 1: when I started just accepting checks instead of checking that
Speaker 1: ass on some This hood belongs to us, not you,
Speaker 1: punning and and and we we we lost sight of
Speaker 1: what happened to us. Often, James, is that for us
Speaker 1: melanated people, we get caught up in the romance of
Speaker 1: the moment. Right, but we don't see that this stuff
Speaker 1: at some point can come to us screeching hall. And
Speaker 1: if we ain't building in the right way, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be it's not gonna sustain us. And I said,
Speaker 1: all that, then we gotta let me write our draulics.
Speaker 1: This is how you got us. Okay, we gotta let
Speaker 1: me write our draulics. I'm every night I'm posting because
Speaker 1: somebody said theyin't gonna come through and do something. So
Speaker 1: I got my little crew. We posted all the old
Speaker 1: in the parking lots. Oh you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he did let me run the druics, I said,
Speaker 1: funk all the extra ship. Let me show him something.
Speaker 1: Let me not put my body and myself out there
Speaker 1: and be on some beating up people's ship. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay right here, let me ride. And I'm in the hood,
Speaker 1: so I got to help building building low riders. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm in a in the in the on
Speaker 1: the right with the white boys cutting the metal to
Speaker 1: you know, redo the frames and ship. I'm seeing these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's cut I'm I'm watching my little homie Boomer. I
Speaker 1: just took dre uh low Rider that that ship he
Speaker 1: had in the chronic. I took everything over his ship
Speaker 1: and put it in my little homie boomership. See what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So now let me play with these motherfucker's, right,
Speaker 1: you feel me, But I'm showing them the pain. And
Speaker 1: then I got to show the homies and my brother
Speaker 1: that we're allowing this ship. We were doing this ship.
Speaker 1: You know. So when people, the homies started paying attention
Speaker 1: and saying that I was right, and all I had
Speaker 1: to do is argue with this dude to get a check.
Speaker 1: I don't have to be physical. I don't have to
Speaker 1: do that. So when that happened, I'm cool. I'm right here.
Speaker 1: I ain't got to move. When when Snoop trial, I
Speaker 1: took that opportunity, I brung nine motherfucker's, but I had
Speaker 1: twenty motherfuckers on the roster. But I got paid for
Speaker 1: eleven other motherfuckers and just paid those nine and then
Speaker 1: still got my two undred fifty dollars a day. You
Speaker 1: feel me, I made over forty, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I took advantage of my situation when it came man,
Speaker 1: I made I made a whole bunch of dollars. Guy,
Speaker 1: you know six six too. When we did that. You know,
Speaker 1: I took motherfucker's to the back door that right there
Speaker 1: that meed for. He got paid. You know you won
Speaker 1: that got paid. You told me, my nigga, what no that? No?
Speaker 1: I did you know when when when you know, snoop trial,
Speaker 1: I had to give more money that way six six
Speaker 1: to they charging sixty five, seventy dollars at the door.
Speaker 1: It's fifteen Tucker's over here. I go to that fifteen
Speaker 1: checked this out. They tried to seventy five. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: charge y'all sixty bucks a piece. Oh, y'all come on
Speaker 1: to the back that right right right, right, right right right.
Speaker 1: And I did like five six groups like that because
Speaker 1: in it, after all this you see and you're witnessing
Speaker 1: all these things, you saw the way where you knew
Speaker 1: how to maneuver once you got into the play. I
Speaker 1: had to learn the game. You learn the game because listen, James,
Speaker 1: let me say this to you, though, man, I was
Speaker 1: really proud of y'all because we had never had nothing
Speaker 1: as big as is that in Compton and the way
Speaker 1: that thing came about. Although no, no, no, I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the multimillion dollar corporation that you guys
Speaker 1: were right there. You guys was in Beverly Hills, and
Speaker 1: you know what, we were attached to it. We didn't
Speaker 1: have no part in it. We were we was attached
Speaker 1: to it. That was ship. That show made it look good.
Speaker 1: Well not not when you come to the neighborhood. You
Speaker 1: ain't seen them below riders and that now, if all
Speaker 1: of us that's regular as hood ship. We should have
Speaker 1: been took out of that situation. You know, I grew
Speaker 1: up with JP. Yeah, and you know they grew up
Speaker 1: in Fruittown. Yeah, he's still over there. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: sister Peggy. I think it was Peggy. She was in
Speaker 1: the wheelchair. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. We actually went the Rolls
Speaker 1: Crany together. If we we we that's the mistake we made, man.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean we was young. And you
Speaker 1: know what, man, I want to say this man, because
Speaker 1: while we're on the internet doing crazy ship and clowning
Speaker 1: this ship, our life's expectancy is five years Lord and
Speaker 1: the white Man's the gotta be a reason for all that.
Speaker 1: And we're not sitting up here looking we should be
Speaker 1: at a um, we should be on alert mode, like
Speaker 1: something that's going on out of here, because we're dying
Speaker 1: at alarming rates. Man, our kids. You hear something every
Speaker 1: day about somebody nineteen or twenty years old getting their
Speaker 1: ship pushed in, and it's like, we're not gonna have
Speaker 1: no future, bro, if the ship keep going away. It
Speaker 1: is because you keep hearing about cats getting knocked down
Speaker 1: to the age of nineteen twenty or either going to
Speaker 1: prison for the rest of their life. Dr cloud Ender
Speaker 1: just say, we're gonna become a permanent under class if
Speaker 1: we don't wake up. We gotta wake up real quick
Speaker 1: because we just it's so easy to get our attention.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is go online and say
Speaker 1: fuck this nigga, Fuck that nigga, Fuck this nigga, fuck
Speaker 1: that nigga, and you go have a million people sitting there.
Speaker 1: You gonna have. You gonna have a million people sitting
Speaker 1: there looking at you make a buffoon out of yourself.
Speaker 1: But if you tell them each one of them people
Speaker 1: and being people watching, hey, give me your dollar. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to put some ship together for the kids in company.
Speaker 1: You gonna get crickets. You get cricket, so we need
Speaker 1: to wake the funk up. That's we need that. Why
Speaker 1: why don't Oprah, Michael Jordan's, Robert Johnson, Maggie Johnson, just
Speaker 1: the name of the Dr Dre Diddy's jay Z. Why
Speaker 1: don't put the money together? You know? And they don't
Speaker 1: have to. And I'm gonna say this right here for them, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying just the bill, So for us, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this. This is something I know for
Speaker 1: a fact. Jay Z gives millions of dollars to talk
Speaker 1: about the giving part I'm talking about just to show
Speaker 1: an example on how to build Listen, my thing is this,
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't want the lights around them
Speaker 1: when they do ship. Some people do out there hard.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Easy used to give thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: away and not having no cameras around. You know, cats
Speaker 1: do stuff. But it's it's past that point of where
Speaker 1: just giving away turkeys. I ain't talking about the niggas
Speaker 1: that go away and give out turkeys in the hood
Speaker 1: for a promo. Look, I'm talking about the cats that's
Speaker 1: going to go And really, all you're doing is putting
Speaker 1: a band aid on something. See I can go. I
Speaker 1: give a few thousand dollars to the youth. Leave says,
Speaker 1: I was a coach once and I had a program,
Speaker 1: so every year helped me on my taxes too. But
Speaker 1: I give two or three thousand dollars to a youth program.
Speaker 1: Hey go buy some kids some helmets or what I learned,
Speaker 1: because a lot of times people get burnt out on
Speaker 1: giving ship. Because I'm gonna tell you I haven't had
Speaker 1: homies and had conversations with cats are saying, man, can
Speaker 1: you believe I did this and that? And the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: came like this ain't enough. First of all, nobody has
Speaker 1: opligated backwards. Though you know what, one mother, just stand up,
Speaker 1: one of these rich motherfucker's, just stand up, because you
Speaker 1: got all these people following him. All he gotta do
Speaker 1: is stand up and then go to his hood and
Speaker 1: build that ship like some Lebron James, you know, he
Speaker 1: building this over here. He had the construction side every day,
Speaker 1: making sure the ship. Though James Lebron took his childhood friends,
Speaker 1: sent them to the college, y'all got their education degrees,
Speaker 1: and then he turned over the business. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something I'm working on right now. I was at
Speaker 1: a meeting last night. My son was up for the
Speaker 1: Thorp Award and the Girl Ski Award. They talked about
Speaker 1: this cat is up on some other stuff. I got
Speaker 1: his NFL sell us what your son do. My son
Speaker 1: is a football player. He goes a University of Southern California. Man,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. So the thing is with him. His mindset
Speaker 1: is because what I did for purposely with him, even
Speaker 1: though I moved him to the suburbs of Downey when
Speaker 1: he started playing football. But you're not gonna be out
Speaker 1: here with these I'm taking you over here with them.
Speaker 1: You gonna really play. We're gonna see what you make.
Speaker 1: Because you know, the first time he was playing, we
Speaker 1: was over in the little suburbs. He running through them dudes, clowning,
Speaker 1: and I'll say, okay, we're gonna see if you really
Speaker 1: got some. I'm gonna take you over here with these niggas,
Speaker 1: the starving, the little niggas. The starving wound up becoming
Speaker 1: his friends. Or what I did is I raised a wolf.
Speaker 1: He was in the suburbs and all that. Now, so
Speaker 1: his mind thing is this. His whole thing is he
Speaker 1: got his homeboys getting their stuff together. He following the
Speaker 1: Lebron James path. He telling his home, but look, you're
Speaker 1: making a football nigger, But I need you to go
Speaker 1: to Elkore to take these glasses and learn how to
Speaker 1: run the press machine, learn how to do this and
Speaker 1: do that. This is gonna be your thing, dude. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing this. You're gonna be my chief of
Speaker 1: security and my assistant. Right he's working with the Mandela
Speaker 1: family right now. My son talked about building the school
Speaker 1: right in content. Man, that's what's up. He went to
Speaker 1: Saint John Bosco. But he told me, he said, Dad,
Speaker 1: that experience ain't for every kid. Every kid is not
Speaker 1: gonna get acclimated through there. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just a certain amount of discipline to take to
Speaker 1: go to school like Bosco. So he's talking about and
Speaker 1: he got motivated from listening to this man right here
Speaker 1: talk about like schools and stuff. So he's talking about
Speaker 1: you know what, Dad, I got these people have got this.
Speaker 1: I want you guys to take advantage of this to
Speaker 1: let's make a change. Let's really gonna make a change
Speaker 1: in the community and bring it there. Because he said,
Speaker 1: for me to go, I'm gonna bless my old high school.
Speaker 1: Mam a mater, but I need something for the kids
Speaker 1: that can't get there. Watch the essence of the wolf.
Speaker 1: Though the lion and tigre are more powerful, but the
Speaker 1: wolf don't perform in the circus. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: a wolf perform in a circus? Okay? Then, so when
Speaker 1: a wolf get around another wolf and see mal you
Speaker 1: caught that, you caught that? When I see it, I
Speaker 1: turned him into a wolf because my son is one
Speaker 1: of those classic dudes that could have went either way.
Speaker 1: My son. People are born like that. I truly believe
Speaker 1: they don't come out just like you know. My son
Speaker 1: was called by nature and not by choice. The show
Speaker 1: because my son was a type. When we first moved
Speaker 1: to Downing from North Long Beach, I had a mail box.
Speaker 1: Found it. Yeah, big slips because he don't suck somebody up.
Speaker 1: He don't suck this cat up. And plus he had
Speaker 1: the long curlly here. So he said, Dad, I ain't
Speaker 1: want them to think I was soft, you know. So
Speaker 1: his thing is this. He identifies more with it. He
Speaker 1: identifies more with the cash from down there, even though
Speaker 1: he would tell you right now, I'm from the suburbs. Mom, Pops,
Speaker 1: coolers help. My mom was there. I hadn't made but
Speaker 1: he knows it's more than that because I've made it
Speaker 1: my business to show him, like, nigga, you actually got
Speaker 1: a good these nigga is still going to it when
Speaker 1: you come home. And he used to trip out because
Speaker 1: his friends have come up from the team. We got
Speaker 1: all kinds of serial just normal stuff that you're supposed
Speaker 1: to have juiced to drink. His friends in there looking
Speaker 1: like I don't have this. It needs to be more.
Speaker 1: And see, that's what we got to stop thinking the
Speaker 1: black people that we gotta stop looking at all the
Speaker 1: people have got money, his stuff that we could do ourselves.
Speaker 1: Ask yourself, when is the last time you went to
Speaker 1: volunteer your time for something else. I commend this nigga
Speaker 1: because he out here coaching kids. He don't have to
Speaker 1: be up to his kids in high school doing this thing.
Speaker 1: About to go to college in a few years. He
Speaker 1: don't got to be out there, but he's out there.
Speaker 1: It's little things that you can do with your time,
Speaker 1: and time is so precious right now of this of essence,
Speaker 1: we're sitting up here making videos talking about this nigga
Speaker 1: and that nigga we better wake the funk up or
Speaker 1: it be deal. If you do it three sixty, you
Speaker 1: wind up in the same spot a little Charleston White.
Speaker 1: Charleston White put up what two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: to get his butt out of that situation. Did he
Speaker 1: really was he really uh taking that for granted or
Speaker 1: did he appreciate that because he obviously he has some
Speaker 1: good parents or a good parents that loved him, and
Speaker 1: he showed him different. And that's what I don't want
Speaker 1: to do. I don't want to make this show all
Speaker 1: about Charleston yourself because right now we at a time
Speaker 1: we're some million Charleston Whites in the country. Man. You
Speaker 1: see the um, you see the but you see that
Speaker 1: it all comes back to self hate because we can't
Speaker 1: stand each other. I'm gonna tell you something, If a
Speaker 1: white man comes in and says, Okay, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a thousand, you a thousand, you a thousand, me
Speaker 1: a thousand, use your nigga, ain't good question ship. But
Speaker 1: if it come in with the same deal for y'all
Speaker 1: might have better terms and everything. And they offered us
Speaker 1: the thoughts and we got to see what he's up to.
Speaker 1: He's trying to sneak in on us. We don't love
Speaker 1: each other. Dog. We don't protect each other because we
Speaker 1: don't respect each othercause we don't respect ourselves. That's what
Speaker 1: it all comes down. People, I ask that about everything.
Speaker 1: You know in situations, why or we like that towards
Speaker 1: each other? You know that's the same situation like we
Speaker 1: feel like here on on the West Coast as far
Speaker 1: as music. Why we don't support each other like motherfucker's
Speaker 1: do in other places. What generation do we have to
Speaker 1: show it's different. What generation has stepped up and said,
Speaker 1: y'all not gonna be like this. This is how we was.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna teach y'all how to self love instead
Speaker 1: of self Hey, we're gonna teach y'all that game banging
Speaker 1: and all this and only kill y'all. Y'all only killing yourselves.
Speaker 1: We don't have a generation that's stepped up yet. And
Speaker 1: that during the time of slavery, we own one point
Speaker 1: one percent of the wealth of this country. Two we
Speaker 1: still only have one point one percent. So if you
Speaker 1: go to Black demographics dot com, if you want to
Speaker 1: know any sus tectis about black people, those are the
Speaker 1: real thing. And we spend more cash in this country
Speaker 1: than any other race of people. Big consumers, consumers, never
Speaker 1: the builders, never the creatives. We always the consumers. How
Speaker 1: many times our dollar go around? Still a dollar circulates
Speaker 1: through our through our community never, but it circulates to
Speaker 1: the white folks community times over. What are we doing wrong?
Speaker 1: You know what? What are you doing wrong? Man? And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this to to our brothers that
Speaker 1: own businesses out here, some of us got to step
Speaker 1: our stuff up to now. It ain't let me let
Speaker 1: me make a point, James, you have we we gotta
Speaker 1: step up as a people. It ain't just the business
Speaker 1: owners and people in power. We're walk into a store,
Speaker 1: right for some reason, we walk into Macy's. And if
Speaker 1: they if it's a certain on the wreck to say
Speaker 1: it's two ars. We but if eight has a shirt,
Speaker 1: the product mind that he's putting out, he put it.
Speaker 1: He got fifty in box of niggas. I need that, homie,
Speaker 1: I need that. But Dyin's sitting on cash and no
Speaker 1: one in order nothing. If you're gonna support that man,
Speaker 1: purchase his products, don't come in expecting no discount. Don't
Speaker 1: come in expecting this And that come from because you're write,
Speaker 1: a lot of black people have eight doing something. Why
Speaker 1: would expect eight to give us? I just said it.
Speaker 1: It comes back to the part of we don't like
Speaker 1: to support each other for us some fact that, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see him making no money. But
Speaker 1: I don't mind if Macy's is making the same money
Speaker 1: that my state is backwards, because still could have Like
Speaker 1: I said, still could have product, James could have product.
Speaker 1: I expect James to give me a hat for free,
Speaker 1: but the same hat could be in in hat cap
Speaker 1: in the mall, and I'm gonna go spend forty. And
Speaker 1: it's just like the same way like we do this show.
Speaker 1: Aid has a hell of a clothing manufacturing thing. I
Speaker 1: told eight, I said, man, let's do the gangs the
Speaker 1: chronicles else. To you, it just makes sense. Hello, he
Speaker 1: already got a thing. Why go around that? And our
Speaker 1: brother has the same thing right here to infrastructure to
Speaker 1: do it. Let's do it with him. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you another thing. It's like I got titled on
Speaker 1: my phone that's a black owned you know, a brother
Speaker 1: found that company. You know. It's almost like they think
Speaker 1: the white man's water is colder, bro, Why can't we
Speaker 1: get a million and split it up a month? We man,
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to do right here today. Why
Speaker 1: are you saying that. While you're saying that, man, I
Speaker 1: can't speak as I just signed the n d A.
Speaker 1: I'm doing that right now with some really powerful brother's
Speaker 1: dog and we are gonna take back control of media.
Speaker 1: We need to own radio, bro. We need to own radio.
Speaker 1: We need to stop running the YouTube and all these
Speaker 1: other places not you know not and this ain't no
Speaker 1: not against YouTube, but we need our own ship, bro.
Speaker 1: We needed to control it, and we need to get together.
Speaker 1: We need a panel of people to start putting ship
Speaker 1: in check. Because I'm gonna tell you, we used to
Speaker 1: go down to Cleveland. I was raised in Cleveland. I
Speaker 1: came out to California when I was eighteen. But we
Speaker 1: have certain homies in the hood that they was almost
Speaker 1: like the police. You went to them and this nigger
Speaker 1: don't broke into Ms. Johnson's house. He gotta ask from
Speaker 1: the next day, like, why are you breaking that woman's house?
Speaker 1: A dude don't shot this and the baby don't get
Speaker 1: a shot. That nigga come up thinking the next day
Speaker 1: we handled our own ship inside because it was some
Speaker 1: kind of structure. But when you got a generation of people,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna getting the thing because we got
Speaker 1: some great young people out there doing some incredible stuff.
Speaker 1: But this generation, the majority of them, are thinking about themselves.
Speaker 1: How can I come up? How can I look big? Hell,
Speaker 1: I ain't got a problem with a brother making a dollar,
Speaker 1: but don't choose the lights and the views over the
Speaker 1: motherfucking money if they ain't making If they ain't making money,
Speaker 1: it don't make sense. There you go, man, s America.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm go ahead. Man, United Streets of America is
Speaker 1: trying to implement that same idea. I mean, and we
Speaker 1: can't have enough of us doing it because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the more we have in the pod,
Speaker 1: the better than greenies, the better the food. So I
Speaker 1: think that, I mean, that's an excellent idea. I just hope, man,
Speaker 1: you don't lead a hood post man. And if you
Speaker 1: noticed with me, and I'm gonna tell you something. I've
Speaker 1: tried to pull brothers in. I've tried to pull brothers in.
Speaker 1: I've tried to tell him what I was doing. But
Speaker 1: the first thing they want to say dyn and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you all right now, our show do millions
Speaker 1: of downloads. I don't have to. I don't like I
Speaker 1: was doing good. It's doing good. So it's like, but no,
Speaker 1: it's not about that. I'm running with a point here.
Speaker 1: I get a motherfucker that don't have nothing going on
Speaker 1: to come and tell me. I'm trying to look out
Speaker 1: for him, and he looking at me like, man, you
Speaker 1: know how come with this? And that? I said, Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta work, bro, I'm not gonna sit up here
Speaker 1: and do it for you. I'm not gonna do it
Speaker 1: for you. So I'm looking for motherfucker's that want to
Speaker 1: work if you're gonna do your ship the whole time.
Speaker 1: But every time I meet the motherfucker's like, so are
Speaker 1: you gonna be here to do this from me? You know, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell you what with the thing I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you this horse. You gotta put the saddle on
Speaker 1: the ride that motherfucker though. Still, you know you gotta
Speaker 1: put the saddle And you're supposed to be interviewing YouTube there. How,
Speaker 1: I'm good. That's good. If we took for rich niggers
Speaker 1: from from the neighborhood, hood rich and just to go
Speaker 1: take five little kids nine to eighteen or nine to
Speaker 1: twenty and and and get permission to take him to
Speaker 1: this camp for a year and teach him for a
Speaker 1: whole year. It changed his mind. If it has changed
Speaker 1: everything about it. And you're teaching them skills, you're teaching
Speaker 1: them how to read, you're teaching them everything that they
Speaker 1: don't know. See a lot of a lot of my
Speaker 1: bullshit and the way I felt, and I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't too sure about myself because you know, being a
Speaker 1: game banker, fu reading writing, Fuck you know this? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. No, it wasn't It
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary. The only thing it was necessary. And being
Speaker 1: in the hood is a gun. Don't If you're in
Speaker 1: the hood and don't got a gun, you you're losing.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that was my mentality. That was my thought.
Speaker 1: But if you if you take that what I was
Speaker 1: and what you was, and what you was, and and
Speaker 1: and bring it and flip it of to day to
Speaker 1: our kids, they don't have to see what we were
Speaker 1: at thirty. They don't have to see where we was
Speaker 1: at at forty they know they're gonna they know they're
Speaker 1: growing to be young men at nine. Yeah, exactly, and
Speaker 1: just take him away from the situation. Now, now mail
Speaker 1: you from Compton, right, What neighborhood are you from? Or
Speaker 1: as you say, tribe are you from? Tribe to tribe?
Speaker 1: Is Santana Block? Okay? You from Santana Block? And you're
Speaker 1: obviously a well spoken, very eloquent dude, more intelligent than
Speaker 1: than a lot of these motherfucking professors. That hint the professor.
Speaker 1: You come from the same background these people come. How
Speaker 1: did you become? Like, are you self educated? I'm self educated,
Speaker 1: But I had a father that was a disciplinary he
Speaker 1: was he was career um military, he was actually he
Speaker 1: was a ranger and um man. He didn't he wasn't
Speaker 1: a joke man like my partner to lead uh before.
Speaker 1: His father the same military background. So he put some
Speaker 1: things in me that I probably wouldn't have never got
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for him, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because he demonstrated to me that it wasn't cool to
Speaker 1: just be out there just dipping your hands sort of speaking,
Speaker 1: I'm using colloquial language with dipping your hand means letting
Speaker 1: people know that you got this blue rag, you got
Speaker 1: this thing. You know, everybody know that you that you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So he said it was better
Speaker 1: just to remain still, not using your neighbor in the moment,
Speaker 1: to where you can demonstrate who you were in the
Speaker 1: moment of that time. And that's you know. I got
Speaker 1: that from him. But also he would take us and
Speaker 1: said to me and my brothers, take us a citizen
Speaker 1: in the bed at night and tell us these amazing stories.
Speaker 1: Because my father spoke German, he spoke a little uh Korean,
Speaker 1: and he spoke a little uh Spanish as well, So
Speaker 1: he would take us on these journeys around the world.
Speaker 1: And he would always say I've been around the world
Speaker 1: once and shook everybody hand twice. And he would just
Speaker 1: take us on it, man. And that fascinated me. And
Speaker 1: that's really important. And I think I think James makes
Speaker 1: a point. Man, we need to start with the kids,
Speaker 1: you know. And when I say kids are I'm including
Speaker 1: them brothers that's eighteen and nineteen too, because they still
Speaker 1: kids at the moment. Somebody you show somebody something different.
Speaker 1: I remember when I started going to Europe and stuff
Speaker 1: and traveling, I was looking for pubs and coming. It
Speaker 1: was based in England, it broadened June had opportunity to
Speaker 1: travel when you first went overseas. Then to give you
Speaker 1: a whole different angle on everything. Hell no, see eight
Speaker 1: is just the one of them. Was a definition because
Speaker 1: I was a Nigger who always wanted to be in Compton.
Speaker 1: Like I keep telling you, that was what I grew
Speaker 1: up in New You get me. So even though I
Speaker 1: was traveling and going on tour and all that, first
Speaker 1: thing I did when I got off the plane was
Speaker 1: wanted to go back to Compting And it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: was just the fact that of that was my sense
Speaker 1: of belonging because without that, they had the father in
Speaker 1: the household. You get me, James, was your pops at home.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a pops at My daddy left when
Speaker 1: I shot my little brother, so I didn't I mean me,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a pops at home. My mom's worked
Speaker 1: from me elevin at night till seven in the morning.
Speaker 1: So you got a thirteen year old kid streets and
Speaker 1: when you got a sister, who know this nigga from
Speaker 1: this hood and this nigga from this hood, and now
Speaker 1: the niggas is coming over and they in the cars
Speaker 1: and they got the beepers on and niggas got straps
Speaker 1: and ship, I fascinated you. So the older I got,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't thought I wasn't one of those
Speaker 1: niggas who did a lot of ship. I didn't go
Speaker 1: even though I was wrapping and ship. I didn't go
Speaker 1: hang out at the clubs. I didn't go like venturing
Speaker 1: rout and go the other nigga. I went to the hood.
Speaker 1: What we're doing dipping the day up Cranshaw here. So
Speaker 1: when I got overseas and start touring in Europe, I
Speaker 1: go do my shows and I'm ready to get back
Speaker 1: to the house to say And I think, because you
Speaker 1: didn't actually enjoy the experience and see what I did.
Speaker 1: Always made it a point to go see stuff like
Speaker 1: right like when I went to um Rome and I
Speaker 1: saw with a gladiators fall that and I always thought
Speaker 1: them colors was a lot bigger. They looked like traps
Speaker 1: parts think not that thing. Not that. I think it
Speaker 1: took me getting older to start appreciate. Like now when
Speaker 1: I go overseas and I'm like, oh, yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to check out the museum we're going to this and
Speaker 1: that and all that. But back then you're talking about
Speaker 1: I was nineteen twenty years old. How many how many
Speaker 1: people in the hood can they even experience what y're
Speaker 1: talking about going to these different places? Not very many,
Speaker 1: not very many. And the sad part about it is
Speaker 1: these are places that people can go that's not that expensive.
Speaker 1: Like I tell people, like, when people see what's going
Speaker 1: on the case, they say, man, you bo, how you
Speaker 1: did it? I say, Bro, all to take is planning.
Speaker 1: That's it. They got different programs. A lot of people,
Speaker 1: like you said, James, a lot of motherfucker's who're stuck
Speaker 1: in the hood and the mind states of like you said,
Speaker 1: who would who would ever experience that on a like
Speaker 1: just suck it. Let's just take a trip to Europe.
Speaker 1: As far as a hood Nigga mentality is Vegas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: idea of taking trips was going to Vegas and like
Speaker 1: that in Vegas was fished for a lot of motherfucker's
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood that never been Yeah, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what it was too though, Bro, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are scared because I had a homeboy
Speaker 1: when I came to California, my homeboy that was actually
Speaker 1: a better football player than me. What's gonna talk about
Speaker 1: coming out? Right? He was gonna come out, but he
Speaker 1: got scared of the last minute. Was like, what, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I heard they got niggas. There's cripts
Speaker 1: out there and I heard they got it. Ain't no
Speaker 1: different than niggas on the East side Cleveland killing up
Speaker 1: every damn thing. It's a difference because they moved different.
Speaker 1: He don't know. You don't know how these name is
Speaker 1: moving in California. And when once she touched down, some
Speaker 1: othercker's didn't got killed touching down out here and walking
Speaker 1: and that real cool. But it ain't like we're coming
Speaker 1: out here on the other ship. We come to play football,
Speaker 1: so we're not coming out no other ship. And I
Speaker 1: still even with that, you can still get caught up
Speaker 1: because I got diverted, almost got diverted off my mission
Speaker 1: a couple of times because you meet different people out here,
Speaker 1: like I fine, you don't get mad about me saying this,
Speaker 1: But one of the niggers I've met there was a
Speaker 1: bad influence for me, was fine me And he wasn't
Speaker 1: a bad influence. He was just trying to help me.
Speaker 1: The way he knew how he said, ohioway and got
Speaker 1: no bread. He go to second, I'm sure we did
Speaker 1: down here that because coming from out of town, your
Speaker 1: mentality is total different. Like you're seeing ship on TV.
Speaker 1: You're hearing ship, but that's some real life ship. Look
Speaker 1: like this man in comparison what I saw on TV,
Speaker 1: because I went and saw colors and all that ship,
Speaker 1: but where it came out. So I'm thinking, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at that. Should I come on and say, man, that
Speaker 1: ship had a way share two experiences that made me
Speaker 1: go back to my roots, to what my dad and
Speaker 1: mom taught me. The first time it was four they
Speaker 1: did this um they called a gang city, right, and
Speaker 1: it was based on the summer Summer Olympics. So they
Speaker 1: came out here. They put together British broadcasting team and
Speaker 1: they came out here and they was the media had
Speaker 1: been selling that the Crypts and the pirus, we're going
Speaker 1: to be a disruption to the Summer Olympics, and the
Speaker 1: media around the world brought into that. They bought it
Speaker 1: hook Line and Seeker and they came in and they
Speaker 1: targeted us, specifically this guy you probably know, Graves and
Speaker 1: some of them other people that was part of that
Speaker 1: oss stuff. They came to us and they bought us
Speaker 1: and we did you know, and they interviewed us during
Speaker 1: that time. But parts of them somewhere down the line
Speaker 1: in the interview the y'all ascess the question what didn't
Speaker 1: we feel about the summer Olympics. But at that time
Speaker 1: it's four Cocaine's. We looked at him, said, man, we
Speaker 1: don't care nothing about that. We got this right here.
Speaker 1: But all that I'm seeing all those things was transitions
Speaker 1: into one moment into a next that led us further
Speaker 1: and further down the rabbit hole. And what I mean
Speaker 1: because at that time, the prison and the prison industrial
Speaker 1: complex was they was putting money behind it. They was
Speaker 1: they was building them, they were setting them up because
Speaker 1: they were setting up for the big payback exactly, and
Speaker 1: everybody made money off that Olympic board. The second time
Speaker 1: is that I'm actually a survivor of police batality because
Speaker 1: remember you had the stony boards, you had to live Withers,
Speaker 1: and then you had the institutioners, right, and these people
Speaker 1: actually trying to take my life. In the nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine February, the fourth team, it was Valentine's Jay and
Speaker 1: I'm telling them, but they was gunning at me. They
Speaker 1: was gonna at me. But I had a will and
Speaker 1: and just a just a sense of survival, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I wasn't gonna go down like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, That's just what my mindset was.
Speaker 1: But it made me realize a few things that I
Speaker 1: was just I needed to get away from where I
Speaker 1: was going and get back to what I was taught.
Speaker 1: And once I got back to where I was taught,
Speaker 1: then I begin to like really gravitate towards Uh John
Speaker 1: Henry Clark, Uh and um Dr Claude Anderson, Francis Quels
Speaker 1: Wilson and Amos Anderson and Nami mcbar. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: take in all this information because now I'm hungry for
Speaker 1: something else. Instead of being hungry for the street life,
Speaker 1: I became hungry for the knowledge which was my father
Speaker 1: was giving me from an early on stage. And I
Speaker 1: went back to that and that helped me change my
Speaker 1: perspective and help me look at things a lot better
Speaker 1: than what I was seeing. And I eventually outgrew a
Speaker 1: lot of things that was connected us from being in
Speaker 1: the hood and accepting all the things that were along
Speaker 1: with that. You know what I mean, because in the Hood,
Speaker 1: you gotta sept the burder, you gotta sept the the
Speaker 1: main hand, you gotta sept the girls cheating on you
Speaker 1: got that said, the hood took you to take us
Speaker 1: under because you have to learn how to uh. If
Speaker 1: you want to become a better individual, better man, you
Speaker 1: have to learn how to leave certain ship behind. And
Speaker 1: sometimes it's funked up because it takes tragic situations for
Speaker 1: us to go fun that ship. I gotta leave this
Speaker 1: ship along, like you said one time, trying to suck
Speaker 1: you over. That's what made you go, I need to
Speaker 1: get away from this, James. It was a situation to
Speaker 1: where you said, funk all this ship, the death row ship,
Speaker 1: the mob ship, all that. I can't do this ship
Speaker 1: no more. Still, same thing with you. I gotta get
Speaker 1: the funk up out of the North Long Beach. Saw
Speaker 1: that ship. And if I keep doing this, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you become a produgence. I'm gonna check this out. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do for other stake. And I don't make friends
Speaker 1: but healthy niggas this bloods and crypton because I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them as just men. The homies. I'm
Speaker 1: not viewing them is what they are, but I'm noticing. Okay, man,
Speaker 1: let's go to lake withood Mala blittle on me like
Speaker 1: he know, you know, he's like, hell no, I talked
Speaker 1: to the one homie eight man. Let's go out here
Speaker 1: to the thing that the big mall like that. Man,
Speaker 1: are you crazy? I can't go out there and you
Speaker 1: don't say, I'm gonna get stumped up? So what you
Speaker 1: fully understanding these boundaries and things. I got a good
Speaker 1: idea of it, and that's what made me say funk
Speaker 1: that I like moving around to being a free spin.
Speaker 1: We're about to shut stuff down. Man, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this mail and I ain't gonna ask what do
Speaker 1: we do because that's corny, this ship being going on
Speaker 1: since the beginning of time, and then to continue on.
Speaker 1: When can't we do as a collective? I think we
Speaker 1: need to get the house together first, though I get
Speaker 1: hit up with so many people have got incredible foundations
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I'm ready to start dealing with
Speaker 1: these brothers out here, and one thing out we all saying,
Speaker 1: contrary with some of the people out there believe we
Speaker 1: just don't have the O G S on the show.
Speaker 1: I don't try to reach out to some of your
Speaker 1: young niggas, But what happens here us with our people
Speaker 1: again themselves? Hey, I don't have people book to come
Speaker 1: on the show. I look up, they ain't on our show.
Speaker 1: But they don't Lad, they don't Addam twenty two or
Speaker 1: whatever like that. So again it's a white man's ice
Speaker 1: cold or not. Those dudes got the credible platforms. They
Speaker 1: ain't meet this and them, But exactly show our platform
Speaker 1: the same respect that you show them. If you do
Speaker 1: a zoom with us, don't have the windows down this
Speaker 1: ship and doing all this other ship. Because if you
Speaker 1: had the plans for one of the white boys, you
Speaker 1: would be in front of your house, in front of
Speaker 1: your things like this, with your fans crossed, answering every
Speaker 1: question as intelligen as you could. It wouldn't be the
Speaker 1: hold on one second, my nigger. It's because they look
Speaker 1: at each other. We look at each other. It's lesser
Speaker 1: than all the time. We gotta get out of there. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully you wouldn't answer like some of the people that's
Speaker 1: been the guests on Adam twenty two and Glad, and
Speaker 1: you would be more respective of your culture which you
Speaker 1: come from. So what I would say is that we
Speaker 1: gotta get away from the ancestral trauma that's on all
Speaker 1: of us from the old you know, because we still
Speaker 1: even the kids today they're fighting beefs that was established
Speaker 1: way back that they have absolutely nothing. I think you
Speaker 1: gotta master those lessons that's been that's there, and then
Speaker 1: you gotta cultivate some space for you for the abundant
Speaker 1: to flow. You can't continue to live your life based
Speaker 1: on with me James A and yourself. Did you gotta
Speaker 1: create a new dynamic because we're living in a time
Speaker 1: where things are moving and this this progress that we
Speaker 1: got going on this world right now. Man, it's being
Speaker 1: so quick man, because five things that advanced this world
Speaker 1: more than anything that science, mathematic, biology, kentially physics. When
Speaker 1: you got those five principles on your side, you can't
Speaker 1: losing this game called life, which your platform platform and
Speaker 1: Maile to Hood Postman. You know the vibe is d
Speaker 1: A and the Postman and Hood h O O D
Speaker 1: P O S T M A M be sure to
Speaker 1: tap in. Also, you're not the streets of America, My
Speaker 1: brother the Brothers, Bride Dog and HERU and let me
Speaker 1: give a shout out to my boy General bas for
Speaker 1: giving me the shirt right here. That's right. But you
Speaker 1: know he out there, Texas fan. He got his own brand.
Speaker 1: He's actually doing some things with people over in France.
Speaker 1: He's um, you know, so he's up and coming. And man,
Speaker 1: what can I say there? Man, he didn't want to
Speaker 1: come on the Man before before we're leading here man,
Speaker 1: Me and Lea talking there every morning. Man, right he
Speaker 1: made me with mine said, man, you're calling me man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my peace Man shirts. You know
Speaker 1: you you know, you know the biggest shirt man that
Speaker 1: you need the five acts. And that was legendary right
Speaker 1: here because I got the Homi big leaf for there.
Speaker 1: Who don't talk on camera, who don't do nothing, the
Speaker 1: old school like that was going on and everything just
Speaker 1: look at the news everything. But he is the one
Speaker 1: that told me, he said, mail the streets is undefeated,
Speaker 1: absolutely undefeated. Who y'all know that beat the streets? Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know nobody, nobody. We don't ask you before
Speaker 1: we go tell me why don't we have you on
Speaker 1: the show? Though? You got me now you know I'm
Speaker 1: right here part Yeah, we're gonna do a part too,
Speaker 1: because I got a lot to say about Lee, and
Speaker 1: Lee actually helped me a whole line in the streets. Uh.
Speaker 1: I remember the time when could nobody talk to me
Speaker 1: but Lee come and he had me. That's the voice
Speaker 1: of reason, right, reasons the way they should be saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He has a very very
Speaker 1: interest to look when it comes to this, looking at
Speaker 1: the situation for what it is and then giving you
Speaker 1: the definition. Man. When I first started this ship, man,
Speaker 1: I can't take this ship. I don't know what Man,
Speaker 1: these people tripping jags. You gotta look at it like this.
Speaker 1: You know, I always told you you be trippings and
Speaker 1: and he is straight me out. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying A show. I learned a lot then and now
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying the show. I learned how
Speaker 1: to be patient doing this this ship right here show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it too. You definitely feel in on this. Man.
Speaker 1: Shout out to stand Shepherd man for that book keeping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: band down of the Rag got to lead TV. Ready,
Speaker 1: Well that said man, that's another that's another uh episode.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take us out of here still man. Later, Jim, Well,
Speaker 1: that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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