1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar Airings and Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: on box or Radio. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: Oh, what is going on? Happy Friday? To a Happy 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: Black Friday to you? As a matter of fact, here 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: as we get you all set for a pretty big 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Friday of college football. Little NFL action mixed in as well. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: Dogs were barking yesterday. Man, we'll get to that here 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: in just a minute. At the home Depot, Makita tools 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: are built for the pros who show up early with 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: tools built to last job after job, year after year. 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: When the job calls for the best call on Makita 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: available at the home Depot, how pros get more done. 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, Jason Martin, Howard Things. How was the Thanksgiving? 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Everything good? 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: Everything's good. Everything's good. Food was good, football was interesting, 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: definitely say that lot to jump into and of course 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: a lot to get to in the weekend, but solid 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving all around for the Martin household. That's good, very good. 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: I spent a portion of my Thanksgiving with the neighborhood 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: cat Oreo. Have I given you any of the details 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: about how awesome Oreo. 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: Is Jane now? But I'm gonna assume it's a black cat. 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, it's a neighborhood black cat. Oreo has 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: a home. Oreo has owners, but will routinely visit places 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: all around, like the apartment complex, including my place. So 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Oreo was hanging out last night, you know, came by 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: for a late Thanksgiving dinner and then just hung out 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: and you know, we woke up early and we're doing 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: the show now, right, so we're not ready to get 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: into it here. 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: But that was awesome. That was a lot of fun. 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: But man, I thought you your description was great, Like 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: yesterday was interesting. 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: All three underdogs won. The Backers were a road underdog. 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: They beat the Lions. Cowboys were a home underdog. They 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs, and the Bengals another road dog. They 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: were eight point underdogs. Joe Burrow comes back and they 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: smack around the Ravens thirty two to fourteen. Which are 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: the three games with those results going the way they 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: did stood out to you most as far as the 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: playoff picture significance going forward, was it the Chiefs going 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: down for you? 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I would say so. I think Detroit and Green 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Bay are both still in pretty good position, and then 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: obviously weren't you were only watching one playoff team. Potentially 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: in the late game, I might be more shocked by 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: what I saw in that game, or at least a 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: little bit more shocked. But I think that coming out 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: of Kansas City and Dallas, like it was very close 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: to Kansas City having a losing record right now. They 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: had to make that comeback to beat the Colts on 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: Sunday and then yesterday against Dallas. Like, the more I 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: watched the Chiefs, and again, this is why I haven't 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: tried to make he's sweeping, just feelings about what I 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: think they are because from week to week it just 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: you just don't know exactly. But the more I watch them, 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: the more I'm just like, man, if you can't beat 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: them this year, like what hope is there for anybody 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: in the AFC? Because this team is so flawed. Now 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: they didn't have Tray Smith yesterday. That's a big deal obviously, 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 3: But at the same time, like the Cowboys really kind 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: of pushed the envelope all day yesterday. They were the aggressors. 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: I thought Dak Prescott again was just excellent and has 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: been all year long. Pickens and Lamb both making big 67 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: time plays, Pickens making some kind of alien, just insane 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: play where he almost hurtled a guy after getting through 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: like three or four tackles near the right sideline, and 70 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: he might have scored on that play. But then they 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: do go ahead and score. But the defense for Kansas City, 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what Spacnela's calling. It just they're not 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: that great at least not against the top flight offense. 74 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: And the more I watched the offense, it's just you 75 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: have these guys you have or Shee Rice and you 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: obviously you have the quarterback and you have some of 77 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: this stuff, but it just doesn't look the same. It 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: looks like I'm trying to think of what I could 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: really could compare it to. It's like the Patriots the 80 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: year you knew they weren't gonna win it all, or 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: a team like that where they're still a good team, 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: but by no means are you gonna call them great 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: like And there's nothing about what the Chiefs are bringing 84 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: on a week to week basis that is particularly impressive. 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: And so I just look at it them just like 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: man AFC. You've got to take advantage of this, like 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: if you cannot get to the super Bowl instead of 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: this team. And this team's gonna have some work to 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: make the super Bowl. I mean, Mahomes said it himself 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: after the game, he said, we got to win them 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: all from now on out. Yeah, I mean that's pretty 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: much true, because they're not gonna win the division. And 93 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: there's just there's something just they look old. They just 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: look like a team we've seen. We've been here and 95 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: done this before. But maybe we're not going to the 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: theater on the first weekend anymore. Yeah. 97 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: It's one of these deals where I'm watching the Chiefs 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: yesterday shoot themselves in the foot again and again, and 99 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm watching them and I'm like, are they just mentally spent? 100 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 101 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: Where I was flipping channels the other day and there's 102 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: a I think it's a thirty for thirty on the Bills. 103 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: You know, we lost four straight super Bowls and the 104 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: last super Bowl that they lost, they were they might 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: have had a lead at halftime against the Cowboys. It 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: was a close game. They were either like slightly ahead 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: or slightly behind. I can't remember, but like they interviewed 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: former Bills player after former Bills player, Steve Tasker was 109 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: on that team, and he was like, at halftime, I 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: could tell we just had nothing left. We were in 111 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl for four straight years, and even though 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: that was a close game, we just had nothing left 113 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: to give. And I'm wondering if that sort of applies 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs also, and some of it might. They've 115 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: been to the AFC title Game nine straight years, and 116 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: they look like a team that's sort ofly mentally just 117 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: not focused to the degree they need to be. But 118 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: then I'll always try to like check my work, you know, 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: like your math teacher always to check your work, right, 120 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: So if I come up with the theory, I try 121 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: to test it out to see if it really makes sense, 122 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: and halfway it does. In halfway it doesn't. 123 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: Take. 124 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: For instance, Rashie Rice had a huge drop yesterday, So 125 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: the Chiefs are down by seven points. They've got the 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: ball near midfield. It's third and eight, like we're in 127 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, we're under ten minutes to play, and 128 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: he just drops a ball right over the middle, like 129 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: easy first down, easy catch. Just dropped it. Now that's 130 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: a guy who isn't like a ten year veteran, you know, 131 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: it's not like it's been so mentally taxing. He only 132 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: played four games last season because of injury. He was 133 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: suspended for the first six games this season. This is 134 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: his third year. Rushie Rice is not a guy that's 135 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: just like man, all these AFC title game appearances, it's 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: so mentally taxing. He's not a guy like that. That's 137 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: a guy just dropping a ball in a key moment 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs finding a way to hurt themselves. So 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: it's somewhat makes sense where they seem like a team 140 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: that's just I don't know, they've they've been redlining for 141 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: so long. You're seeing the effects of that, But I 142 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: don't think it applies to the entire team. Sometimes you're 143 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: just making big mistakes and key moments. 144 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's just it's not crisp, it's not Yeah, 145 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: the little things, the details that the Chiefs never used 146 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: to beat themselves doing, they're doing. And I mean, eventually 147 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: this is going to happen. Eventually, it's not gonna be 148 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: your year. Eventually somebody else is going to get an opportunity. 149 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: But they're just not that good. Yeah. And the other 150 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: thing is they're not that fun to watch either. And 151 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: I think this may be started last year, but even 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: though they do have some dynamic players, Rice probably being 153 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 3: near the top of that list, Like, I just don't 154 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: have fun watching them. Yeah, it just I'd rather watch 155 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: a lot of other teams in this league than watch 156 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: Kansas City right now. And that even goes from Mahomes. 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: I know he does some some special stuff from week 158 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: to week, but there's just like a very yep. I 159 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: have seen this a lot. Like you always talk about 160 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: how eventually somebody gets a look at some tape and 161 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: year two is not as good as year one. Well, 162 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot of tape on Patrick Mahomes, there's a 163 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: lot of tape on this Kansas City offense. There's a 164 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: lot of tape overall on the Chiefs, and so it's 165 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: just kind of like, man, I've seen my share of tape. 166 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: I want to see something else. I was more entertained 167 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: by far by the first game yesterday than the second, 168 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: but I was actually just watching Dallas, Like man, I 169 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: did that segment yesterday where what have we been wrong about? Well, 170 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: one is I think Brian Schottenheim has done a pretty 171 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 3: good job. I mean really he has, because we all 172 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: sort of laughed off that higher but not only have 173 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: they not fallen apart. They've kind of gotized and you 174 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: know the moves that they made at the deadline there 175 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: to get a couple of guys on defense. I do 176 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: think that that helps him out. And ebra Flus has 177 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: had a pretty good season as well. But this offense, man, 178 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: this Dallas offense is just a blast to watch. Dak 179 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: Prescott is just he's playing some of the best football 180 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: of his career. And you could see it because he's smiling, 181 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: laughing and just having a good time. He's living his 182 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: best life right now. No, he is. 183 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: He's played really really solid football, and they still strike 184 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: me as a team that I think he's the Burrow 185 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. 186 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is very possible. 187 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, where Burrow was sensational last season and they just 188 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: had an average record because the defense was so bad. 189 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: Now the Cowboys lately, their defense looks way way better. 190 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: They were getting just absolutely gashed and giving up big 191 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: play after big play earlier in the season, but they 192 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: haven't done that as of late. So they've been better, 193 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: They've gotten healthier. A couple of trades have helped out. 194 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: Getting winning Williams is a big deal. But the thing 195 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: with the Chiefs. You know what's funny is have you 196 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: ever had a vehicle with transmission problems? Of course, yeah, 197 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: I think we all have at some point. Yeah, I've 198 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: definitely had a couple of vehicles over the years. And 199 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: that's what the Chief's offense is like to me. Right, 200 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: if you're driving your car and whatever, you're in fourth 201 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: gear and you're trying to get up to fifth gear 202 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: and it just doesn't want to kick into fifth gear. 203 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: That's how the Chiefs offense is running this year. They're 204 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: like a car with transmission problems. And the thing that 205 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: is wild to me is they are a six and 206 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: six football team with the completely healthy Patrick Mahomes. You 207 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, if you're just explaining how 208 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: the Chiefs got to this point to someone who hasn't 209 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: been watching each and every game, if they're like, so, as, like, 210 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: what's the deal? They're six and so what's going on 211 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: with them? The way I would describe it, I'd be like, Ah, 212 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: they're just I don't know, they're kind of sloppy. They've 213 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: made big mistakes at times, and and it's like is 214 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: that it? It's like, yeah, that's kind of it. Mahomes 215 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: has been healthy all year. It would make more sense 216 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: if Mahomes got hurt in like Week two and they've 217 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: had their backup this whole time or something, or they've 218 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: had a number of significant injuries, and you could say, man, 219 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: that the injury bugs really hurt them. Man, that's why 220 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: they're six and six. You really can't say any of 221 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: those things. It's just they're not making those plays when 222 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: they need to, or they're just doing a handful of 223 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: just stupid things, like just silly mistakes, and their opponents 224 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: take advantage of it. It used to be the other 225 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: way around, man, The Chiefs never killed themselves like that, 226 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: and they always pounced on those opportunities. I don't know, man, 227 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: they just don't have it this year. They do not 228 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: have their fastball. 229 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: No, they don't, and we're getting to the point where 230 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: there's not going to be enough time for them to 231 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: turn it around. Yeah, their schedule, They've still got a 232 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: couple of pretty tough games on the horizon. They got 233 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: one more against Denver, for example, and they really have 234 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: almost no margin for error at this point. It's very 235 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: weird to see the graphic of playoffs for whatever game 236 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: you're watching and see in the hunt and then see 237 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: the Chiefs logo. Yeah, that's where we are right now. 238 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: And not just the Chief's logo. You're also seeing that 239 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: about the Ravens. 240 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: And they need like big help. They're losing a tiebreaker 241 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: to a number of teams just to get into the playoffs. 242 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: Like they are in major trouble here. So I don't 243 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: know that they're even sneaking into this thing here. If 244 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: you look at their remaining schedule, it's like I could 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: see that being a loss. That could be another loss, 246 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: Like next week they host the Texans on Sunday Night, 247 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: then they get the Chargers, and they get the Broncos 248 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: on Christmas Day. Yeah, those are not easy games. The 249 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: easier games are at the Titans at the Raiders. But man, 250 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: could you see one or two more losses with the Texans, Chargers, 251 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: and Broncos. I could if you see one or two 252 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: more losses, Man, it's curtains. It's not gonna work out. 253 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I will say this, I think we 254 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 3: can survive this season without Kansas City making the playoffs. 255 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: I think as a football watching public will still be okay. Yeah, 256 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: I still think there's gonna be some good games, some 257 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: good things that happen. Even if Kansas City doesn't make it, 258 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: maybe it would be a refreshing change of pace. As 259 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: a matter of fact, because I kind of don't want 260 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: to see this version of the Chiefs get in. It's 261 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: gonna be tempting to still want to pick them if 262 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: they do get in, because well, why would you not 263 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: based on everything we've seen in the past. The only 264 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: thing I will say in their favor is like, if 265 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: they do get in, I'm not looking at this AFC 266 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: and seeing a bunch of Juggernauts here. Bro I know. Yeah, 267 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: it's such a weird year, man. 268 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, if they somehow sneak in, they'll be executing at 269 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: a much higher level. 270 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: They have to to be able to. 271 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: Win these games, and you're gonna be like, eh, it's 272 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: kind of hard to take the Patriots even though they 273 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: have home field or the Rocos. You know, but we'll 274 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: cross that bridge if we get to it. I just 275 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: know that we're gonna get there. 276 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: Man. 277 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't if I had to bet one way or 278 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: the other today, I would bet on the Chiefs not 279 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: making the playoffs. 280 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: So what I mean, I think they're under fifty percent chance. Now. 281 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: I think it's like a forty seven somewhere in that 282 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: percent chance, And like a lot of teams you see 283 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: that and you're like, yeah, they're probably not gonna make it. 284 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: But with the Chiefs, it'say, yeah, but it's Mahomes, it's 285 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: Andy Reid. Yeah. But eventually, like you've played enough games 286 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: to where it doesn't matter who it is. It's just 287 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: not your year. Yeah, I know it. 288 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: It's like like when they're winning all fifteen of their 289 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: one score games last season and now they're what one 290 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: in six I want to say, in one score games. Yeah, 291 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: Like the play yesterday's George Pickens trying to spin around 292 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: and make a play, gain a first down, any fumbles 293 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: and there are like four Chiefs just like circling the 294 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: football and out of nowhere here comes Turpin and it 295 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: dives on the fumble. And it's like that wouldn't have 296 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: happened last year. I don't know how it wouldn't have 297 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: happened last year. It's gonna happen this year. That's just 298 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: the way it goes sometimes in football. 299 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just watching that game you just saw, 300 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, okay, this year and this is not 301 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: something I think almost anyone would have said entering the 302 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: season this year, the Dallas Cowboys are a better team 303 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: than the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah. 304 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, at this stage, absolutely they are. 305 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: And we've mocked their defense for a large part of 306 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: this season. Most of us have not the offense, but 307 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: the defense. But in this case, it was just like 308 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: watching that yesterday, one of those teams just looked like 309 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: the better football team to me, and it was Dallas. 310 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: Yes they had it at home, and yes it was 311 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: a close game. We're not pouring complete dirt on the Chiefs. 312 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: They're not getting blown out in a lot of these games. 313 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's just you go back 314 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: and you even look at their losses and some of 315 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: these losses are just like, yeah, I mean you found 316 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: a way to lose. Yeah, And that's not a thing 317 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: you ever say about the Chiefs. You always say, well, 318 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: they pulled it out. They found a way, even if 319 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: they do it with me or sorcery for Mahomes or 320 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: whatever like that. None of that stuff is working this year, 321 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: Like somehow they don't have the ball at the end, 322 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: or even if they do, they're not able to get 323 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: the job done. It's wild, man. 324 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: I think we're in an alternate universe this year, some 325 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: that would make more sense than the Chiefs six and 326 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: six with a healthy Mahomes. That's that's insanity right there. 327 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: But here we are, here, we are all right. He's 328 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: Jason Martin, I'm Brian though. We're in for two Pros 329 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: and a Cup of Joe here today. Hope your Black 330 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: Friday is off to a fantastic start. 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The two pros 357 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe off this weekend hopefully and 358 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 3: joined a wonderful thanks with their family and of course 359 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: some business to take care of this weekend. And so 360 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: he's Brian know, I'm Jason Martin. We're in having a 361 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: blast with you this morning, all right. So Jack White 362 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: and eminem in Detroit and then Post Malone in Dallas. 363 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: I think it probably comes down to generationally, for like 364 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: post Mallan was performing while I was eating Thanksgiving dinner, 365 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: so it wasn't loud. So I don't know exactly what 366 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: to say there. I'm a huge Jack White fan, my 367 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: wife and I both are. We've seen him multiple times 368 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: together and just a huge fan. Plus you know, Nashville 369 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: and Third Man Records are right here in our town. 370 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: And so I thought that performance was phenomenal, Like it 371 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: was so tight because you had this shorter, normal halftime 372 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: and then for Eminem to just pop up there in 373 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: the middle do some killer stuff and then them just 374 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: finish it off with Seven Nation Army. I thought that 375 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: was a really really solid halftime performance. I did too. 376 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I liked it. 377 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: I love how he for seven Nation Army grabbed the 378 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: weird guitar like like, I don't know what was going 379 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: on with that. 380 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: It's like this old school almost like gretch guitar. It was. 381 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of like a hybrid, like it 382 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: looks like an acoustic but clearly was not. But yeah, man, 383 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: like Jack White, he rocks out, man, that dude, and 384 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: you could feel it right, and he just fit. He 385 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: fit with that city, you know, that performance fit with 386 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: that that whole vibe, and it was cool to see 387 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: Eminem do his thing for a little bit a post Malone. 388 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: I like a lot of post Malone stuff. It was weird. 389 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: It was almost like a karaoke version. What's the kind 390 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: of like the the country slash pop hit that he has? 391 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: They closed with that, but he was like, I can't 392 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: remember off the top of my head. 393 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: And my mother in law asked us, like, did he 394 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: start out as a country artist? I said, no, No, 395 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: he's kind of mixed in some genres here and there, 396 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: Like he's shown some you know, he's he's kind of 397 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: got a wide range in terms of what he likes 398 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: and what he's inspired. Bye, but a lot of what 399 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 3: I thought he was doing, at least from what I heard, 400 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 3: Brian was not the Malone that I'm more used to. Yeah, No, 401 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: he was good. He was all right. 402 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: It was definitely more of a country flavor. 403 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 404 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: And I was like, did he drop it? Drop an 405 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: F bomb? Like I I rewinded it a couple of times. 406 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't tell if he did not serve 407 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: he did, but uh, it was okay. I preferred Jack White. 408 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: I think that post Malone. He tried to like tailor 409 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 2: his show to the crowd. Al and that's not really 410 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: true to who he is. You know, he's he's got 411 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: the R and B like the rap flavor, and you 412 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: didn't get that at all in that performance. So it 413 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: was okay to me, But uh, I don't think as 414 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: good in my book as Jack White. 415 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: I thought Jack White Show was really good. Yeah I did. 416 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: I did too. And then I didn't even know Little 417 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: John was a thing that happened in the PM. He 418 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: could have slid in, He could slid in the Collinsworth 419 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: role because he just kind of came in so fast 420 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: and then he was out apparently like maybe he didn't 421 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: even need to be on the field. He could have 422 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: just been in the booth with to Riko. Yeah. 423 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: It was almost like you know a pregame where they're 424 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: doing their pregame stuff and they're like, oh, hey, check 425 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: it out. Here's a little taste of whoever is performing. Yeah, 426 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: like for all the fans outside in the parking lot 427 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: and get like a little taste of that. That's what 428 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: they did for Little John. They did Little John dirty Man. 429 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: It was not like and now here is the halftime 430 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: show presented by Verizon litl John. It was not like 431 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: that at all. Tarico was like, Oh, let's give you 432 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: like twenty solid seconds of Little John and move it along. 433 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: It was completely different. So this afternoon we got two 434 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: eight and three teams. We got the Eagles and the Bears. 435 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you I know you said this yesterday. 436 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you the soapbox here. Okay, those that 437 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: are Chicago fans out there, plug your ears. Brian No 438 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: does not believe in your football team. 439 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, they're so fugazy it's not even funny, man, It's. 440 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: Like they're weird. Right. 441 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: The Bears are a team that I think are complete 442 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: and utter frauds. They haven't beaten anybody. They've beaten the Steelers. 443 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: That's the end of their resume, you know, like that, 444 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: that's not anything to write home about. It's a home 445 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 2: win against the Steelers. And you could look at this 446 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: and be like, hey man, but they're only allowed to 447 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: play the teams who are in front of them. Okay, 448 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: that only goes so far. They got blown out by 449 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 2: the Lions. Now that's back in Week two. They lost 450 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: fifty two to twenty one. J Martin like, that's what 451 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: are we doing here? They lost by two touchdowns to 452 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: the Ravens. You know, so the good teams that they've played, 453 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: they have not fared well at all. The only good 454 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: win they have and it's kind of like you know 455 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: in quotes is against the Steelers with Mason Ruth backup quarterback. Yeah, Cowboys, 456 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: you could say that's a solid win at home, but 457 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: the Cowboys were not then what they are now. 458 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: That was Week three. 459 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: The Cowboys defense was a wreck, remember that, true, the 460 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: bomb I think it was the Luther burden that Matta 461 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: had a flea flicker in there. It's like just giving 462 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: up big plays left and right. So even that has 463 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: an asterisk in my mind, Like, you're barely surviving against 464 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: the Raiders, barely surviving against the Commanders. They had a 465 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: miracle win against the Bengals. You've had five double digit 466 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 2: comebacks in the fourth quarter against mostly bum teams. Like 467 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: you're just not built to last with the formula like that. 468 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: It's great that they're eight and three, Hey, great, I 469 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: just don't think they're built to last going forward. 470 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're already I mean just what they've 471 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: already accomplished, They've all they've shown steps in the right direction. 472 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: Those are games they're not winning last year. Yeah, you 473 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: beat the Raiders twenty five to twenty four. You beat 474 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: the Commanders i think without Jayden Daniels twenty five to 475 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: twenty four. You win a Giants game twenty four to twenty. 476 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: You beat the Vikings by two, you beat the Steelers 477 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: by three. You're winning close games. That's not something that 478 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 3: that is going to work long term. It never does. 479 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: Year to year. The teams that you can easily fade 480 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: or the teams that you can say, yeah, probably not 481 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: gonna have as good a year this year's last year 482 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: are the ones that they're winning those close games. It's 483 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: just not something that happens on a consistent basis. The 484 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: question is going to happen for the next you know, 485 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: eight nine weeks for them to put themselves in a spot. 486 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 3: They've got a tough sled. It starts today at Philly, 487 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: and then it's at Green Bay, and then they go 488 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: to Cleveland, and that's gonna be interesting just because of 489 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: the defense and what Miles Garrett's doing and by then 490 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: what is happening at the quarterback spot for Cleveland and 491 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: is that more difficult? But they've still got both games 492 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: against the Packers left. They've got another game against the Lions. 493 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 3: They've got the Niners at near the end of the 494 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: season on the road as well, So I mean almost 495 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: nothing they have left outside of the Browns looks particularly inviting. 496 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: So what is their record at the end of the season. 497 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: Be wow, I would say whether they eight and three 498 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: right now? 499 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: Eight and three right now? Have them losing today? 500 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: I do have them losing to Okay. I probably have 501 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: them losing next week against the Packers. Also, they might 502 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: get swept by the Packers potentially, and at the Niners 503 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: finish up with the Lions. I see at least three 504 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: losses from here on out. So I'll put him at 505 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: eleven and six. 506 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pretty good end up. Eleven and six. Yeah, 507 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: that's a pretty good year for Caleb Williams, and that's 508 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: a definite good year for Ben Johnson. No doubt. 509 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 2: You would take that all day. If you're a Bears 510 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: fan before the season started and said hey, you're gonna 511 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: go eleven and six this year, every Bears fan'd be like, great, 512 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: sign me up. I'll take that, no doubt. And that's 513 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: the thing is, Caleb Williams has played pretty well. He's 514 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: put up numbers that are respectable. He's only twentieth in 515 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: passer rating, but sixteen touchdowns four picks. Got to get 516 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: the completion percentage going. That's what's really hurting him. Under 517 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: sixty percent. That shouldn't be a thing in today's NFL, 518 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: but he's taken steps in the right direction. Under Ben Johnson. 519 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: The defense is not good, but they are fantastic at 520 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: forcing turnovers. They have twenty four takeaways this season. That's 521 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: number one in the league. That's what's interesting about today's 522 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: matchup because the Eagles are number one in giveaways. They've 523 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: only given the ball away six times this season. They 524 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: don't turn it over. So the Bears live off of takeaways, 525 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: and the Eagles don't have many giveaways. So if the 526 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: Eagles are able to protect the football, they're not fumbling it. 527 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts has only thrown one interception. He's so careful, right. 528 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: This offense is just so careful. But in a matchup 529 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: like this against the Bears defense, which is not good, 530 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: they're giving up yards left and right. If you're able 531 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: to protect the football, I think that the Bears defense 532 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: is going to be in trouble here. So I'm really 533 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: excited to see how that plays. 534 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: Out three years from today. Who is the best quarterback 535 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: in the NFC North. 536 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: Three years from today? 537 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean there's questions about all these guys, right, Like, 538 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: God's getting a little bit older, and I know you're 539 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 3: not a huge fan of his. Jordan Love, very inconsistent. 540 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, We're still work in progress. And then what's 541 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: happening in Minnesota is not looking good at all, not 542 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: looking good whatsoever. 543 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: If I had to put my money somewhere, I would 544 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: bet on the ceiling of Caleb Williams, and I would 545 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: just hope and I would pray to the football gods 546 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: that this guy is just more consistent with getting rid 547 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: of the football on time. J Mart Like, I have 548 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: no problem with going off script from time to time, 549 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: extending to play from time to time. It makes sense 550 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: at times. But he does it all the time. He 551 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: will not get rid of the football on time, and 552 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: it's not going to work in the NFL as much 553 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: as he does it. He's got to do a much 554 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: better job of one two three throw, you know, one second, 555 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: two seconds seconds, Like the ball should have been gone 556 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: by now. And he's just like, yeah, let me buy 557 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: like four more seconds like, no, man, No, you can't 558 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: do that as much as he does. He's got to 559 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: get that fixed, man, And I'm gonna bet that he 560 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: can to a degree where he will be the best 561 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFC North three years from now. 562 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 3: My bet would be on Caleb. Would you go, Jordan Love? 563 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: Or where would you go? There? I probably would be 564 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: with you, Jordan Love. I need to see something consistent 565 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: from him, yeah, And I just kind of I don't know. 566 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: I think his consistency is just gonna be sort of average. 567 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 3: I think at times he's gonna have really nice games 568 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: and at times he's gonna have the opposite. I think 569 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: that you're right the ceiling. If they're able to kind 570 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: of harness it is going to be higher for Caleb. 571 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: Caleb's got Russell Wilson syndrome where he's always trying to 572 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: make a big time play down the field instead of 573 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: taking what the defense is giving him. And they do 574 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: need to let him know that a five yard gain 575 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: is going to move you down the field pretty effectively 576 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: as well, and take in bad sacks and potentially putting 577 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: yourself in a spot where you're going to throw throw 578 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: into double coverage or fumble the football or whatever. Let 579 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: none of that is going to be particularly helpful to you. 580 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: But I will say this just just since we're on 581 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 3: the topic of the NFC North, like I'm seeing increasing 582 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: numbers of articles about Minnesota moving on from JJ McCarthy 583 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: after this season. I'm blown away at how poorly that 584 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: has gone. Like I'm not like coming out of Michigan, 585 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure at all. I definitely was on the 586 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: downside because he wasn't asked to do a whole lot, 587 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: although when he was asked to do it, he would 588 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: make two big throws a game for them, and then 589 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: you know, defense and Blake Corum would carry him the 590 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: rest of the way. But I'm seeing the JJ McCarthy 591 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: that I wasn't sure what the hype was about in college. 592 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: And I don't want to say that because he's young 593 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: and you would think there's still a lot of football left. 594 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: But with the talent that they've got in Minnesota, how 595 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 3: long can they afford to kind of sit there and 596 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: wait to see if he comes around. Yeah. 597 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 2: Man, it's a tough thing where you would want to 598 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: probably do a colts thing, you know, like you bring 599 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: in competition, you bring in a guy like Daniel Jones, 600 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: who has a lot of starting experience, hasn't worked out 601 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: very well to this point, like heading into this season, 602 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: and he could at least be a guy that challenges 603 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, maybe he wins the job. Maybe with Shane Steiken, 604 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: he's able to revive his career and that has to 605 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: a large degree, Ben, what's happened. So maybe you could 606 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: do something like that with the Vikings, because you don't 607 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: want to be in twenty twenty six and still like, 608 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: hey man, we're still riding this JJ McCarthy train right here, 609 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: and it looks next season like it does this season, 610 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: right Like, you really don't want to be in a 611 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: spot like that. So that's probably what they would do. 612 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 2: I don't think that they like move on completely and 613 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: try to get a new guy, but they might try 614 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: to get a Daniel Jones ish like quarterback to push 615 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and if they need to have at least 616 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: a legitimate option to go to if the guy is 617 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: just thinking out loud again, because he's been brutal. He 618 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: hasn't been just bad, he's been like, whoa, what is 619 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: happening here? 620 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: Kind of bad. 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