1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: app 'round one until four and after four o'clock John 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show on demand. The podcast same as the radio 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 2: show you could listen to, but every missed her. Listen 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: to it all over again. Quite a sight to wake 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: up to this morning. You turn on the news and 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: a huge bridge in Baltimore crashing into the water after 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: a container ship rammed into it. It's the Francis Scott 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Key Bridge. Francis Scott Key who wrote what became the 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Star Spangled Banner, and he apparently wrote it to nearby 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: and so they named the bridge after him. And it 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: took a hit from this container ship and just collapsed 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: like it was made a legos. It was really strange 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: to see that a six construction sixth members of construction 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: crew were working on the bridge at the time filling 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: potholes and they were thrown into the water and they're 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: still missing. Two others were pulled out. Why this happened. 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: We're going to start with Derek Dennis with ABC News 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: and get an update here on the latest. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Derek, what's going on? 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: You know why it happens still a big question, but 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: we know how it happened. Authorities confirmed pretty early on 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: this morning that a shipping container ship, you know, basically 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: lost propulsion, lost power, and rammed into a support piling 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: to this bridge, causing it to buckle and twist and 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: then fall dramatically into the river below. This collapsed catastrophic, 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: there's just no other way to put it. It basically 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: destroyed this bridge, rendered it gone. Essentially a major bridge, 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: four lane bridge built in nineteenth seventy seven is no more. 31 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: And you talked about the six people who remain unaccounted for. 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: Workers on the bridge at the time of the collapse 33 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: filling potholes. The NTSB, the lead on this investigation, saying 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: that that's the number they're working with, but they wouldn't 35 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: commit to the fact that there could be more or less. 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: That they're looking for. The chairwoman Jennifer Hammody saying, you know, 37 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 3: crews are searching for people whoever many people there are. 38 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: They're not putting a number on it. They're looking for survivors. 39 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: There was nobody driving on the roadway. They had vehicles 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: from the construction crew and they had the workers, but 41 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: there was a Mayday call from the ship and they 42 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: were able to block traffic from getting on the bridge 43 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: right before it was going to go down. 44 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: That mayday call being credited by authorities up and down, 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: including President Biden, with saving lives because it did give 46 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: police and the Transmutation Authority the bridge time to stop 47 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: traffic on the road leading up to the bridge, as 48 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: well as other ships in the area to keep them 49 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: from the area because the may day call indicated that 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: it was likely going to crash that container ship, and 51 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: that's exactly what happened, but enough time was allowed from 52 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: that may day call to get everybody to be away 53 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: from the collapse when it happened. Definitely saving lives. 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this ship was almost what one thousand feet long. 55 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: Right, weighing about nine hundred and eighty five nine hundred 56 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: I should say ninety eight thousand pounds that's the number, 57 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: but probably a lot heavier with all the containers on board. 58 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: I mean, imagine a massive ship loaded with shipping containers 59 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: leaving the port of Baltimore and then going down the 60 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: river here in South Baltimore headed out to the Atlantic 61 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: Ocean on its way to Sri Lanka. That's where it 62 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: was headed when this collapse happened. This crash happened. We 63 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: learned from the NTSB that there are data or quarters 64 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: on board the ship that they want to get their 65 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: hands on, but they haven't gone on board the ship 66 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: yet to get them because they don't want to get 67 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: in the way of the search and rescue eventual recovery 68 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: mission that's underway right now. 69 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: So there's very little information. Obviously. 70 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: Have they held any press conferences yet to try to 71 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: explain what went on or we pretty much only know 72 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: what we've seen so far. 73 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: No, there have been a number of news conferences, the 74 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: latest one from the NTSB, And a big question that 75 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: was posed to the NTSB is you know, if the 76 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: ship was losing power or had lost power, why didn't 77 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: it drop anchor or did it drop anchor that presumably 78 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: would have stopped the ship and prevented it from crashing 79 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: into the side of the bridge, preventing the collapse. That's 80 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: a big question for the NTSB. They promised the media 81 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: and the public that they would get to the bottom 82 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: of that, that they would get an answer, but it's 83 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: just too early to get some of these major questions answered. 84 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: But they promised that they'll get to the bottom of 85 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: it in the next day or so. 86 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: All right, Derek Dennis from ABC News, thank you very much, 87 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on. All right, Derek Dennis, there, 88 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: this Baltimore is a busy port. They've got fifty They 89 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: had fifty two million tons of foreign cargo transported in 90 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I mean, as you said, this thing 91 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: was on the way to Sri Lanka and the bridge 92 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 2: is known as a trust bridge, a continuous trust bridge, 93 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: and it's the third largest of its kind in the world. 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: There was a wide and it's built so that big 95 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: cargo ships can pass under it. There was plenty of 96 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: room for that ship, but the ship was just way 97 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: out of alignment there. If you watch the videotape closely, 98 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: the lights on the ship go out, then they come 99 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: back on, then they go out again, and that's when 100 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: it hits the support structure underneath the bridge. There was 101 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: also look to be black smoke pouring out of the 102 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: back of the ship. So they had some terrible power 103 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: failure and I don't know if they have backup systems 104 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: how all that works. But the thing was on its 105 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: own and there was obviously no way to stop it, 106 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: and so it hits the bridge and the bridge starts 107 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: to collapse, and there were first reports that there were 108 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: cars on the bridge, but they may have been the 109 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: construction vehicles. There definitely were eight construction workers, two of 110 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: them rescued, six of them missing, presumed dead, and they 111 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: were able to block any new cars from coming on. 112 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: It happened at one thirty in the morning. It was dark, 113 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: and you know that kind of thing happens during the day, 114 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: and there's hundreds of cars on the bridge. It's part 115 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: of Interstate six ninety five. It's the beltway that goes 116 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: round and round Baltimore. We will have more on this 117 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: coming up. In fact, a clip one Baltimore resident was 118 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: awakened when he heard the ship crashing into the bridge. 119 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: We'll play that for you next. 120 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 121 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: six forty. 122 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: Coming up in till the one thirty news or Debra, 123 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: we are going to talk to Steve Gregory. It's the 124 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: day after the massive raid by Homeland Security into Ditty's estate. 125 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: Sean Combs, the rap star and producer and executive. They 126 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: also rated his Miami home as well, and they uh 127 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: also located Diddy I believe at an airport in uh 128 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: in Miami, and he was questioned there. But he has 129 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: not been arrested and not been charged. And we'll see 130 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: what Steve Gregory knows. First first in the world to 131 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: have that story yesterday in holmby Hills. All right, the ship, Uh, 132 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: it was not to be more. But it was fascinating 133 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: to see the ship slowly come crashing down into the 134 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: water there. Uh, it's it's it's hard to believe the 135 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: force that that that that container ship had to knock 136 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: knock the bridge down. That's that was something else we 137 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: we It also made a big noise because the video 138 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: that is showing is a live stream video from a 139 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: distance and there's no audio to it. But uh, here's 140 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: a description by a guy named John. He lives in 141 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: Baltimore and he got awakened in the middle of the 142 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: night by the ship crashing into the bridge. 143 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, unbelievable. 144 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: I've been in this neighborhood fifty seven years. I remember 145 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 5: when they started building that bridge and can't believe it's going. 146 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Tell me what it again, What it felt and sounded 147 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: like to you. 148 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: Like an earthquake, saund It like a big bash of 149 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: thunder and then just like I say, it felt like earthquake, 150 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 5: the whole house wire bridge, like my house was going down. 151 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: Did you ever think something like that wouldn't happen? 152 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 5: Now? Never thought the wild is a dream that this 153 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 5: would happen. Never, never thought it would happen. 154 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: And described from your viewpoint, you know just how things 155 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: have evolved. 156 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: Have you seen the police response. I here choppers in 157 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: the air. 158 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: Yes, I heard a lot of fire equipment, a lot 159 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: of police seeing a lot of police boats going out, 160 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: and see a lot of fire equipment underneath the bridge. 161 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: It's just unbelievable, unblievable. 162 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 2: All right, that's John who lives nearby and he the 163 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: big bang. Now, the history of this port, because Baltimore 164 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: is a major port city, and it was to protect 165 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: the port from invaders like the British. The US built 166 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: Fort McHenry in seventeen ninety eight, so this was just 167 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: a short time after the Declaration of Independence, that's seventeen 168 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 2: ninety eight, and then the British invaded during the War 169 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: of eighteen twelve, and so Fort McHenry was very useful 170 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: and that's what inspired Francis Scott Key to write a 171 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: poem called Defense of Fort McHenry, and later it was 172 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: renamed the Star Spangled batter and then later they set 173 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: it to music and it became the national anthem. So 174 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: it's quite the historic area there and Fort McHenry is 175 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: maintained by the National Park Service. And one of the 176 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: most beautiful things when you go to the fort the 177 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: view is this Francis Scott Key Bridge, which was completed 178 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy seven, and it was named after him 179 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: because it was close to the spot where he was 180 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: on a ship and he wrote the poem that became 181 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: the national anthem. 182 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: So one of the. 183 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: Bridge supports was stuck was struck by the container ship 184 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: known as the Dolly, that's its name, about one point 185 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: thirty this morning, and the Dolly was leaving Baltimore for Colombo, 186 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: Sri Lanka, thousands of containers on board. It's managed by 187 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: two Singaporean companies. It's also registered in Singapore and it 188 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: was being leased by this gigantic Danish shipping company called 189 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: Marsk at the time of the crash. And if you 190 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: look at the video, you see the power going on 191 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: and off, on and off, the lights going on and off, 192 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: and during that time the ship straight off course, so 193 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: when the power went off, it means their navigational system 194 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: didn't work anymore, and now everybody's investigating. They call it 195 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: a continuous trust bridge because it allows for a wider 196 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: span than an ordinary trust bridge, so the ships have 197 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: more room to pass. National Review did a great explanation 198 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: of exactly why the bridge was constructed this way. It's 199 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: the third longest span of any continuous trust bridge in 200 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: the world, twelve hundred feet and the Dolly is one 201 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven feet wide, so obviously there was 202 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: plenty of room for the Dolly get to get under 203 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: the bridge if they had gone down the middle, and 204 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: chips usually go nowhere near their supports for obvious reasons. 205 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: The way continuous trust bridges are constructed, it distributes the 206 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: weight throughout the entire bridge, and because of that, if 207 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: one part of the structure fails, then the whole thing 208 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: is going to collapse. 209 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: There is no. 210 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: Information that the Key Bridge had any safety problems, any 211 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: maintenance problems. They at all rated well as late as 212 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and it's part of the Interstate Highway 213 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: system Interstate six ninety five, which is the Beltway around Baltimore, 214 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: and Baltimore is also the largest roll on roll off 215 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: port in the United States because in most in many ports, 216 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: you have to use cranes to load and unload the cargo, 217 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: but the Baltimore Port is constructed in a way where 218 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: the cargo can be wheeled on and off and cars, trucks, 219 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: far machinery. So Baltimore specializes in those in those categories. 220 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: So this is going to be a huge jolt to 221 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: the Baltimore economy because the port itself employees, you know, 222 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: thousands of workers, and then it's responsible for about one 223 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand jobs in the area. And it's 224 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: one of the main ports for you know, the Northeast. 225 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean there's tens of millions of people 226 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: living within driving distance of Baltimore, so it's a major 227 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: shipping route. So this is going to have ramifications all 228 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: across the country in terms of disrupting shipping. Probably will 229 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: add money to the cost of transportation, probably lead to 230 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: higher prices for products, more inflation. It's usually what happens 231 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: when you have a disruption this big. It's also going 232 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: to take quite a while to rebuild that thing. I 233 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: mean this really is going to cause a problem for years. 234 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: The Governor of Maryland, Wes Morse, said it's going to 235 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: be a long term build. It's also a big port 236 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: for the cruise industry, Carnival, Norwegian Royal Caribbean. They carry 237 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: almost a half million passengers across the Patapsco River, that 238 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: is the river that runs underneath the bridge. 239 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: And uh, you know it cracked me up though. 240 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: After the bridge fell, they woke up Pete Boodha j 241 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: edge in the middle. 242 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Of the night. 243 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: Why did that crack you up? 244 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: Huh because it was Pete Boodha Judge. What is that 245 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: little worm gonna do? 246 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: You didn't want him to have a RESTful night. 247 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: Well, he's already being kept up, you know, because of 248 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: his kids. Remember he was on the on paternity leave 249 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: for quite a while when the uh, when the whole 250 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: world was collapsing with infrastructure problems coming out of COVID. 251 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: Well you'll get to hear what he has to say 252 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: in my news. 253 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, great people. People used to think he 254 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: was going to be president someday. Yeah, well we'll listen 255 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: to that. And then after Debora's News, we got Steve 256 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: Gregory coming on, uh to talk about Day two. Uh 257 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: the uh, well Day one actually post the post Diddy 258 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: invasion where Homeland Security did a mass of raid on 259 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: his properties here in LA and also in Miami. 260 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A six. 261 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock, we're going to talk with 262 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: one of the producers of a new docu series on 263 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: Fox News's streaming service Fox Nation. It's called Menendez Brothers 264 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: Victims or Villains. It's taking a look thirty years later 265 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: at the Lyle Eric Menendez trials, their convictions, and a 266 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: new look at the evidence. In the modern climate. Would 267 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: they have received such a harsh sentence? Would they even 268 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: have been convicted? The sex abuse excuse from thirty years 269 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: ago wasn't flying, but would have fly today. So I'm 270 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: going to talk with Nicole Rittenmeyer, one of the producers, 271 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: and I gave some interviews for this, so if you 272 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: watch it, you'll see me. And there's also some old 273 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: video of us doing the Friday men Endai yard sale 274 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: from a long time go, and I'll play a promo 275 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: clip from it the next segment, and then we'll talk 276 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: to Nicole. Coming up after two o'clock, All right yesterday 277 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: at this time, Steve Gregory was reporting live from Sean 278 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: Diddy Coombe's mansion of State right right in front, and 279 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: they had done a heck of a It was like 280 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: an invasion. It's a rat, but it really looked like 281 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: a military invasion here and in Miami over possible sex 282 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: trafficking charges down the road. Talk about yeah, so this 283 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: is what a federal operation looks like. They don't mess around. 284 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that the SWAT teams from the 285 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: local agencies here don't take it seriously. 286 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: They absolutely do. 287 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: But when the Feds roll in like there, there's this 288 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: kind of a special elevation to the severity of the case. 289 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: And as we talked about list yesterday, there is an 290 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: investigation underway with allegations that Sean Combs could be tied 291 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: to some sort of a sex trafficking ring of some 292 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: kind and his son could be involved in it, And 293 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: now other names are starting to come out of the woodwork. 294 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 2: In fact, at one point it was being recommended this 295 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: could be like a Jeffrey Epstein thing all over again 296 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: in the music world now, and a lot of this 297 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 2: is stemming from lawsuits that have been filed by his 298 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: ex girlfriend. Also another music producer named Rodney Jones Junior, 299 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: known as Lil Rod. He filed the lawsuit last month, 300 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: accusing Diddy of groping him while they work together on 301 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: Ditty's album, the Love Album Off the Grid. The lawsuit 302 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: also includes allegations that Ditty and his son engaged in 303 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: sex trafficking venture. Ditty's attorney has come out and vehemently 304 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: denied all of these allegations and said that this particular 305 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: music producer, Rodney Jones Junior, is just out for a 306 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: payday and that he's lying. But there's a lot of 307 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: accusations and allegations coming out, and as you know, when 308 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: these things break, people start coming out of the woodwork. Yesterday, 309 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: in front of his home on two hundred South Mapleton 310 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: Drive in Hombee Hills, agents went into his house and 311 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: what they were looking for we don't know specifically, but 312 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 2: I can tell you based on experience and what other 313 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: forensics folks have told me, is that they're looking for 314 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 2: evidence that ties him directly to these allegations, and that 315 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: probably is in the form of video. 316 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 317 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it seems what his friends and acquaintances they're 318 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: saying is it seems that there were sex parties that 319 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: were going on, Yeah, even the mansion, and so I 320 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: guess the crime is where did they get the girls 321 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: for these parties? 322 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: Right? And was it consensual and being drugged? Whether you know. 323 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: There's a whole host of these allegations and the fact 324 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: that it was also done simultaneously at a property in Miami. Now, 325 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: the property here in la is actually owned by Combs's company, 326 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: Bad Boys Film Production, but I mean, this is where 327 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: he lives, so it was in the name of his company. 328 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 2: Not sure who the deed owner is at the property 329 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: in Miami. But then there was also this all the 330 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: talked yesterday about about his plane, about him taking off 331 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: to Antigua or escaping to Antigua. And now the thing 332 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: is is that no one could ever say with any 333 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: specificity whether or not Holmes was actually seen in Antigua, 334 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: but his plane was there based on a tail number. 335 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: Now I had been told that did he was being 336 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: closely watched on the East coast somewhere while this was 337 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: going on. They would not have made this operation happen 338 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: if they could not account for his whereabouts. So they 339 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: knew where he was at the whole time. They ended 340 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: up finding him in Florida, right eventually, Yeah, eventually, that's 341 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: not where he started. So the idea that he somehow 342 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: was escaping or whatnot. I had also been told by 343 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: local law enforcement that he wasn't aware that his homes 344 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: were being searched. So it was a coincidence that he 345 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: was flying to these Well, see, we don't know, we 346 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: don't know what his motives were, and I mean, it 347 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: could just completely be a coincidence. But this will all 348 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: come out eventually. But I think, as we discussed before, 349 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: when it comes to a federal case like this, it 350 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: takes a while to build these cases. 351 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: And with the Feds, time is on their side. They're 352 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: in no hurry. They will work and work and work. 353 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: If you think about Mark Ridley Thomas and jose Weesar 354 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: and all those folks, they had no idea what was 355 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: going on. They didn't see it coming. 356 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is fascinating because those cases took several years 357 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: to investigate and build, and you would think with a 358 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 2: time span that long something would lead somehow, they'd get 359 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: a tip. The Feds, amazingly are very good at keeping 360 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: that stuff close to the vest. Now, Homeland Security Investigations 361 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: the lead agency on this. They are a part of 362 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security. But a lot of people 363 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 2: have been sort of mischaracterizing that Homeland Security was at 364 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: the house. No, because Homeland Security would kind of intimate 365 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: there was a terrorist thing going on. But Homeland Security 366 00:21:54,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: Investigations specializes in trafficking cases, whether it's human trafficing, cyber trafficking, 367 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: drug trafficking. They specialize in it because it's transnational, so 368 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: it's crossing, you know, countries and boundaries, international boundaries. So 369 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: because they're involved, though, it's reasonable to suspect that maybe 370 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: girls were being boys were being brought in from other countries, 371 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: it could be it could be presumed that that's the case, 372 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: especially if his plane was down in Antigua. Maybe there 373 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: was some sort of a thing going on where they 374 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: were flying them all over different parts of the Caribbean, 375 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: or in Mexico or Brazil or something. I don't know, right, 376 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: because if he was just having parties for local people 377 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: in the music industry, you wouldn't get federal interest in 378 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: that is not necessarily a suspected violation of federal law 379 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: unless stuff that was happening was being posted online somehow again, 380 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: any kind of an inter intercontinental or someone transnational cross 381 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: county lines or state lines, so that anything that goes 382 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: beyond the local jurisdiction becomes a federal issue. Well, he 383 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: certainly has a lot of smokes rolling around him. I 384 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: mean there's quite a few lawsuits. Yeah, and he's settled 385 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: some and he's got more coming. And it's about behavior 386 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: going back for over twenty years. There was one outlet 387 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: that published a story that said that they spotted him 388 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: in Miami at a private municipal airport there, pacing back 389 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: and forth. And that was around the time that somebody 390 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: that was named in one of the lawsuits, identified as 391 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: Ditty's drug mule, was taken into custody yesterday, arrested for 392 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: having possession of marijuana. I think it was yesterday, so 393 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: that had happened also, and I don't know that was 394 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: tied it all to this or if that was part 395 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: of a separate investigation, but the fact that this guy 396 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: was arrested yesterday and his name is listed in one 397 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: of these lawsuits as quote unquote did He's drug mule, 398 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: So that could also be a part of this. And 399 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: you know, people like that are going to roll typically 400 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: they do, so they said they characterized did he as 401 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: pacing back and forth? So sure, whether you know it 402 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: shows that he's really worried, whether he was just upset 403 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: the plane wasn't leaving on time. I think if you 404 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: got home, services hadn't shown up yetl security rating both 405 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: your mansions, plus all these guys, they know what they did, 406 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: They know what they did, and they know they're in trouble, 407 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: and you know, all they all you can do is 408 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: probably try to migrate to a country that doesn't have 409 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: an extradition agreement. It was weird yesterday. You know where 410 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: I was positioned right there at the yellow tape. There 411 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: must have been five different cars rolling up with young 412 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: men in them. Bentley's Mercedes high end I mean high 413 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: ind electric Mercedes, and BMW's and Lamborghinis pulling up and 414 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: they were all trying to get access through the tape 415 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: to go up to this house. It was very interesting 416 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: to watch. 417 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: They weren't deterred by the massive Well, I don't know 418 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: if they did. 419 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that they didn't know that that what 420 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: was going on, is what I'm saying. I don't know 421 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: if they knew by that time, right, but then at 422 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: some point point we had a bunch of young men 423 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: driving up in very very high in vehicles that were 424 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: like spouting stuff about Diddy. You know, by then they 425 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: had known what was going on. But those are usually 426 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, the kooks that come back service. But they 427 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: were spouting stuff about they knew that they knew what 428 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: he was doing. 429 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it really brought out some of the crazy. 430 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: It seems like the neighbors had stories about all kinds 431 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: of insanity going on in the middle of the night frequently, right, 432 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: there were wild parties going on regularly. Yeah. The one 433 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: young guy I interviewed yesterday, he talked about the fact 434 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: that he would see at all hours of the night 435 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: these young women coming out, as he quoted, scantily clad 436 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: women in coming out and getting into limos and getting 437 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 2: into suburbans, and at two and three in the morning, 438 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: pool parties and all kinds of stuff going on at 439 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 2: all hours of the night. And then he said, on 440 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: his own, he said, now it all makes sense. That 441 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: is how he took it. So, I mean, it looked 442 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: like there was sex trafficking going on, I guess. And 443 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: here's the thing, you know, and there's been some allegations 444 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: that some of these people, that these plaintiffs are under age. Again, 445 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: none of this has been proven. This is all allegation 446 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: in the form of civil lawsuits. But that's what Homeland 447 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: Security Investigations was doing yesterday. They're gathering the evidence to 448 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: find out if it's going to move from a civil 449 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: issue to a criminal issue. And if it becomes a 450 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: criminal issue, then it elevates it to a whole new level. 451 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: All right, Steve, exciting day yesterday, good stuff. 452 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: Yes, And the way these investigations go, could this go 453 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: quiet now for a long period of time. No, because 454 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: of who he is and the fact that the entertainment 455 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: media are now involved. Yeah, and TMZ and whatnot. There, 456 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: I'm already seeing multiple angles of this story. I mean, 457 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna milk this thing for everything they 458 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: can and then it'll eventually go dark. All right, Steve Gregory, Kay, 459 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: fine news. Thanks, we come back after Debor's news. Eric 460 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: Lyle Menendez, they killed their parents thirty five years ago 461 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: in Beverly Hills. The whole generation has gone by, probably 462 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: is not famil They were eighteen and twenty one at 463 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: the time they murdered their parents. Jose and Mary Louise 464 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: while the parents were watching TV, and eventually their defense 465 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: was that they'd been sexually abused by dad in a 466 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: particularly vicious way. The first jury hung, the second jury 467 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: convicted them. And there is now a documentary called Menendez 468 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: Brothers Victims or Villains. 469 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: It's four parts. 470 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: It's premiering on Fox News, their streaming service Fox Station. 471 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: Premiered yesterday and I gave interviews for it. They have 472 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: some old video of our show covering the Menenda situation, 473 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: and we're going to talk to Nicole Rittenmeyer, one of 474 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: the producers, coming up in a few minutes. Actually, what 475 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: I'll do is I'll play a promo clip in the 476 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: next segment and then we'll talk to Cole after the 477 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: two o'clock news. 478 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 479 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: six forty. 480 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: So back in the early nineties, well, actually the murder 481 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: took place in nineteen eighty nine, but in the early nineties, 482 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: the Menenda's brothers seemed to become the center of the 483 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: tabloid world. They were rich, obnoxious kids from a wealthy 484 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: Beverly Hills family. Dad was in the music industry, and 485 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: one day they blow their heads off. The Benedda's brothers 486 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: kill their parents while they're watching television, and it was 487 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: never a doubt that they did it. It took several 488 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: years for it to go to trial. First trial was hung, 489 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: second trial was a guilty verdict, and as time went on, 490 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: they became more aggressive, trying to excuse their murders by 491 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: saying they were sexually abused by their dad. Jose Fox 492 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: Station as a documentary four part series on it, and 493 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: it's called Menenda's Brothers Victims or Villains because it seemed 494 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: as time went on, people became more comfortable with using 495 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: abuse as an excuse to commit murder. And it's an 496 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: interesting angle to take. I talked with them quite a bit, 497 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: so there's some of me in the story, and there's 498 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: footage of our show back around nineteen ninety four as 499 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: well that you could see in the documentary. Let me 500 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: play a two minute review here before we have after 501 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: the two o'clock news, we're gonna have Nicole Rittenmeiron who 502 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: is what are the producers of the show? 503 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: So play this clip. Lyle and Eric Menandez were motivated 504 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: by greed. 505 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: They were as unlikable a parent. 506 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: Defendants as you'll ever see. 507 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: These two rich kids killed their parents, and now they 508 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: think this whole thing is a joke. 509 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: Greedy little brad. 510 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: So many more people know it through the myth than 511 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 6: through the reality, when it just becomes entertainment and spectacle 512 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 6: and we just kind of disassociate from it. The Los 513 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 6: Angeles judge sentenced each brother to two consecutive life terms 514 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 6: for the killings of their wealthy parents. There there are 515 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: real people, There is real suffering at the heart of 516 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 6: this story just goes round and round, and television reflects society, 517 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 6: and society reflect television. 518 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 5: Between the ages of six and eight, did your father 519 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 5: have sexual contact with you? 520 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: Yes? 521 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: They needed a conviction at any cost, and it became 522 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 4: the Menendezes who bore the brunt of that. 523 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: I said, oh my god, this is rigged. 524 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 4: Out of nowhere, seemingly TikTok, and reinvigorated this case. 525 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: It's okay to mock abuse victims as long as it's. 526 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: A boy and not a girl. 527 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 6: Gender has nothing to do with who is safe and 528 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 6: who isn't. 529 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: My number of people understand that if these were the 530 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: Menendez sisters, they would not be in custody right now. 531 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: This was a family environment that was run by fear. 532 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: There is a true mendous amount of evidence, and in 533 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: my view, convincing evidence that abuse was taking place in 534 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: that home. 535 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 5: They couldn't imagine a father abusing his sons, and they didn't. 536 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 6: Want to be perceived as believing them. 537 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: How could these people be killed by their own children? 538 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: And that is a clip from the Fox Nation documentary 539 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: Benanda's Brothers Victims or Villains? Get that title right, right, 540 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: victims or villains? And the thing about the the thing 541 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: about that case is what I remember is there Beneda's 542 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: brothers did not have many fans. They had some young groupies, 543 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: girl groupies, and that was about it. I mean, everybody 544 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: was just repulsed by the two brothers, repulsed by their 545 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: lawyer at the time, Leslie Abramson, and it just it 546 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: was just so, you know, you just you just wanted 547 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: to kill them yourself. They had that kind of smug, arrogant, 548 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: rich elitist attitude and a lot of people and I 549 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: still feel this way, don't want to get into the 550 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: business of fighting an excuse for murdering two people, because 551 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: everybody's got a different line. Then you can walk out 552 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: the front door, you can get the hell out. And 553 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: I don't ever, I don't ever buy this idea that well, 554 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: you don't know what it's like to be abused. 555 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: You just can't leave. Yes, you can leave. 556 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: You walk out of the house, one foot in front 557 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: of the other, start the car, and get get moving. 558 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: But you start justifying murder based on how you say 559 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: you were treated. Boy, is that that's a terrible slippery slope. Then, 560 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: and and and it happens today every everybody, everybody's embracing 561 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: the use that they've suffered and using it to excuse 562 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: all kinds of absurd behavior. It's supposed to be an 563 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: automatic shield. We're gonna talk to Nicole Rittenmeyer. She's one 564 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: of the producers of this mini series, which is four parts, 565 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: half hour each and it's on Fox. 566 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: Station and it's streaming now. 567 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: And we'll talk to her next Deborah Mark Live in 568 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 569 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear 570 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: the show live on KFI Am six forty from one 571 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course 572 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.