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While I'm recording this on a Monday, 32 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: we actually had Patrick fitz Morris on the podcast today. 33 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: That video will come out a little bit later. He's 34 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: one of the main guys at Fantasy Pros. So we're 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: talking a lot of fantasy football, obviously quarterbacks, running backs, 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: wide receivers. It's that time of year, a lot of 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: you guys are drafting teams, trying to decide on some sleepers, 38 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: on the star players, on the quarterbacks. It's difficult. So 39 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: this is a guy They have the top fantasy podcast 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: in America, and we bs about a lot of basically 41 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: every player that matters and a ton of teams. So 42 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: that will be later today, but right now, I want 43 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: to hit on a couple quick things. There's a lot 44 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: of rumors flying around right now about Brandon Ayuk Harbaugh 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: and the Connor Stallions. NCAA just doesn't seem to die. 46 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: Cassario and Demiico go completely old school, which I like. 47 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: And I thought Matt Judaan today gave just as real 48 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: of a comment as you'll ever hear, and you really 49 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: don't hear it enough guys speaking how they truly feel 50 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to contracts, hold ins, holdouts, and I 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: thought it was refreshing. So it's take Tuesday, so we'll 52 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: fire out some thoughts on some of this stuff going around, 53 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: and we'll keep podcasting all week long. So buckle up. 54 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Football's here. We got preseason games. There was just brawl 55 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: after brawl in the Lions Giants joint practice. You had 56 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: the Joe Shane Daniel Jones, you had corners flying a 57 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: lot going on there. I've been in one joint practice 58 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: in my life. It was Niners Broncos post l Way. 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't really that great, to be honest with you. 60 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: It might have been Kyle's first year. If I remember correctly, 61 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: they had like I forget the what's the quarterback's name 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: from Northwestern? And I think Osweiler he was gone. It 63 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: was bad Bronco team. They were not good at all, 64 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: and those forty nine Er teams weren't that good either. 65 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: It was just it was bad. It wasn't anything like 66 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: what I witnessed some of these clips. And obviously there 67 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: were some joint practices yesterday with the Chargers and the Rams. 68 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: I mean, part of the worry in these things, it's 69 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 2: only August. You've only been practicing for a couple of weeks. 70 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: You've really probably only had six seven days of pads. 71 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: Pooka Nakua hurt his knee, Joey Bosa hurt his hand. 72 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: You just it's a nerve wracking times. It's intense game 73 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: level physicality, and you haven't hit anyone else beside your 74 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: own teammates, so you kind of let it fly a 75 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 2: little more. But you get the injuries in these things, 76 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: you just pray to God, it's just it's a little thing. 77 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: A week here, maybe two weeks, which I think Pokah 78 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: is nothing serious. Well, I guess we'll never know. What 79 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Joey will just know when he's back in practice, because 80 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is just adamant, like I'm not a doctor. 81 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: We understand that, Jim. 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I really would, because if you 121 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: are going to trade a player like this, and I'm 122 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: not going to put him on these guys levels. But 123 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: when DeVante Adams was traded, when Tyreek Hill was traded, 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: they were traded before the draft. Because when you are 125 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: a team that has Super Bowl aspirations, even if you 126 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: get a first round pick, hell, you get a first 127 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: and a second round pick. Right now, how does that 128 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: help you Week one against the Jets? How does that 129 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: help you when you play the Rams, when you play 130 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. You know it doesn't. The answer is it doesn't. 131 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: It simply does not. And to me, you cannot remove 132 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk for a draft pick. And I've said all along, 133 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: I understand their stance on him. He wants to be 134 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: paid like these guys that are way more productive. And 135 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: his argument constantly is, well, if you put me in 136 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: an offense that would spread the ball out and throw 137 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 2: it more, I would be more productive. Might be true, 138 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: might not. We don't live in a world of hypotheticals 139 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: where we get to know the answers. Well, maybe we 140 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: would if he does get traded, but that is not 141 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers offense. He's never gonna be a 142 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: guy that catches a hundred balls, not when he's playing 143 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: with George Kittle, Deebo Samuel. They literally just drafted a 144 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver in the first round. Christian McCaffrey held Jordan 145 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: Mason said he bought a jugs machine and was catching 146 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: balls every day this summer with his dad. He's been 147 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: three grand on him. So I get their hesitation of 148 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: breaking them off thirty million dollars a year? Does that 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: make sense? Will we get the ROI on this player? 150 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: But if that is their stance right now, kind of 151 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: on them that they couldn't work out something before the draft, 152 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: if they know they're gonna be unwilling to go above 153 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: a number. And he's not gonna budge now, listen, this 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: is the NFL. He is under contract this year. Then 155 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: he has the franchise tag. What's he gonna do if 156 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers go, we're not trading you just 157 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: never playing a game. That's not how it works. That 158 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't help his value of one day trying to get traded. 159 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: But if you're a team going for a Super Bowl, 160 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: are you trying to create those dynamics in your locker room? 161 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: Which is pretty top notch they got a bunch of 162 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: high level guys who are really focused. It's not an 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: easy place to play. So do you want a guy 164 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: having a lot of issues and pouting with his contract? 165 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: And I give him credit, he showed up, he's gone 166 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: to all the meetings. But I do think the forty 167 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: nine ers, and I talked about this with Colin yesterday, 168 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: of all the good teams in the NFC, like, listen, 169 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: you can't if a guy gets injured at a joint 170 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: practice or in practice, it's football. It happens, it sucks, 171 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: as long as it's not a devastating injury. It's just 172 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: part of the business. But there can't be a team 173 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: in the NFC with more drama going on. Maybe the Cowboys, 174 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: but a lot of that is well, they just don't 175 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: have contracts passed this year and Ceedee Lamb is holding out, 176 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: but the forty nine ers also have a holdout. And 177 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: his name is Trent Williams, who's kind of important because 178 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: last time I checked, they don't really have a replacement 179 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: for him on the roster. One of the biggest mistakes 180 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 2: in recent draft memory is when they flipped the Forest 181 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: Buckner and they could have taken Tristan Worfs, who's now 182 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: the highest paid tackle in the league. And they traded 183 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: back and they got Javon Kinlaw, who was a disaster 184 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: for them. But I think this is tough because I 185 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: do support like listen, this is big business. So having 186 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: tough conversations in contract negotiations in any industry when you're 187 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: talking these type of dollars is par for the course. 188 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: You're not just handing out free money. That's not the 189 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: way it works. And it even gets more challenging when 190 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: you go is this really worth it? Like Ultimately, the 191 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill not because they didn't think he 192 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: was one of the greatest players Andy Reives ever coached, 193 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: because he was. It was because they started looking at 194 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: the books and they went, we're gonna struggle paying Chris Jones. 195 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: If we make this decision and we think Patrick Mahomes 196 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: is this good will build up the defense and we'll 197 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: go from there. And they did and they won two 198 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: Super Bowls. The Packers lowball Davante and clearly by his 199 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: words on receiver that was kind of the end and 200 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: he was like, you disrespected me. I'm out the number 201 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: of the forty nine ers after they offer him twenty 202 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: six million dollars twenty six and a half million dollars 203 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: a year, and I would assume sixty to seventy guaranteed. 204 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: So when you see DJ Moore get eighty guaranteed in 205 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: like twenty eight and a half or whatever he got 206 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: a year, you know, well, DJ has been more productive 207 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: than you. And that's kind of the way football contracts work, 208 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: based on production, based on your importance to my offense. 209 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: Now that doesn't mean he's not a really good player, 210 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: but like it's so easy to turn on NFL Live 211 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: and to see every former player like you gotta pay him? 212 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: Well do you? I mean do you? Because they got 213 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: rid of DeForrest Bucker, who was a team captain and 214 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: a badass, and they've been to three straight NFC championships 215 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl since. So it's like part of 216 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: football is making tough decisions. Bill Belichick did it all 217 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: the time. But they're in this position now where if 218 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: they have to make a difficult decision, they go, listen, 219 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: we're never giving him that number. We never are And 220 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: it's like sometimes, like in life, you gotta draw a 221 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: line in this sand and be like, maybe it's just 222 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: best to move on and make a trade. It just 223 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 2: does not help. And one rumor that's out there is 224 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: a trade to the Browns for a Mari Cooper. Amari 225 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: a lot like Ayuk is really productive. Now he's been 226 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: doing it for a longer period of time. But when 227 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: I watch Amari Cooper, I go, that's not really a 228 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan guy. So I would be I would be 229 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: stunned if Ayuk is traded. I would be very surprised 230 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: if he is traded and it's for a Mari Cooper 231 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: and a draft pick or something. That would surprise me 232 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: because I've been watching Mary Cooper's whole career. He's better, 233 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: I think than a lot of people think. But he 234 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: definitely never lived up to early on in his career 235 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: like it's gonna be one of the best wide receivers 236 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: of his generation. But to me, he does not scream 237 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. Not. I would say, the most physical, tough guy, 238 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: good route runner, definitely get you consistently, seventy five eighty 239 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: catches a year, get you a thousand yards. If you 240 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: look at his football Reference page, it's it's just he 241 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: produces year in year out, but can't see Kyle Shanahan 242 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: moving on from Brandon Ayuk, who kind of hangs his 243 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: hat beside as a great route runner as well, fantastic blocker, 244 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: tough sob Like when I think Brandon Ayuk, I think 245 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: war Daddy, which is part of the reason the forty 246 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: nine ers probably torn on this, like, yeah, should we 247 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: just overpay him a little bit? Not really what I 248 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: think with the MARII Cooper uh and some teams don't mind. 249 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: And listen, could he just balance out with Kittle and 250 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: Deebo probably and could you get by for a year 251 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: and then pivot off them? Yeah, A Mari's kind of 252 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: being even him being thrown out there, it feels like 253 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: a Mari's a very NBA right productive, makes a lot 254 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 2: of money. But when it's all said and done, he 255 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: played on like five different teams like in the prime 256 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: of his career. How did that happen? So my take 257 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: as of the day, I still can't see them trading him, 258 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: And if they were to for a draft pick, I 259 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: think that's just awful planning. And if it's a draft 260 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: pick and a player, it's just very, very risky. And 261 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: I think these teams, like the forty nine ers, like 262 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: the Ravens, like the Lions obviously, like the Bills. I mean, 263 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: anything less, anything less than being in the conference championship 264 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: and more than likely having a home game feels like 265 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: a letdown. They're not the Chiefs, none of those teams, 266 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: but the standard and the expectation couldn't be any higher, 267 00:14:53,400 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: and rightfully so, it's like, if not now, then when Harbaugh. 268 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm glad he's back in the NFL, but I'm gonna 269 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: miss him on Saturdays. But it's cool that he went 270 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: to the Chargers, and it's gonna be a good experience 271 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: to resurrect a franchise. But this Connor Stallions, which I 272 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: can't even pretend to know, clearly some shady shit was 273 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: going on. I've supported shady shit in the NFL forever. 274 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to the business. Everyone's trying to gain an edge, Like, 275 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: guess why all shady stuff happens Wall Street. I've always 276 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: said the NFL is Wall Street on grass. And when 277 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: Belichick got popped for stealing signs, everyone was stealing signs. 278 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: Everyone was college and pro. Now, when you put a 279 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: guy on a sideline and you fake a badge, there 280 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: are probably lines, but listen, I don't care what industry 281 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: you're in. If it's competitive and there's a lot of 282 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: money on the line, everyone's pushing the envelope. Some people 283 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: get caught, some people don't. But if you don't think 284 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: someone is, you're probably getting lapped. So you better be 285 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: looking for an inch. Now, did Connor Stallions cross the line? 286 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: He is a marine. Thank you for your service. We 287 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: appreciate what you did. Understand why Jim Harbaugh likes him, 288 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: but I also understand why the other coaches are pissed off. 289 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: It's pretty clear the NCUBA hates Michigan and hats Jim Harbaugh. 290 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: And I've said this for a while. I do not 291 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: understand why any of these Power five major programs, but 292 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: especially now the Big ten, the SEC, the ACC and 293 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: the Big twelve, the Power four because the Power five 294 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: is dead, why they need the nc double A. In 295 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: what world could you pick up a phone call from 296 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: one of those idiot administrators in that building and take 297 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: anything they say. Seriously, you don't need them for your 298 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: television contracts. They have nothing to do now with the playoffs. 299 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: When are we breaking away and letting these people no 300 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: longer influence anything? I saw Kentucky got in trouble and 301 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: had to vacate wins. Is there anything dumber than vacating wins? Like, No, 302 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 2: I watched the game, they won the game. It used 303 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: to happen all the time in NCAA basketball. It's like 304 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: that Memphis Final four team did not exist. No, yeah, 305 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: I did. I watched them play and they were really fun. 306 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed them. Derreck Rose was must watch TV. 307 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: It's happened in football over the years, and every single 308 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: time it's like Pete Carroll gotta vacate the Reggie Bush games, 309 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: take away his heisman. It's like, shut up. These are idiots, 310 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: and there comes a point in time like that. They're 311 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: not the government. You don't need them. And you can 312 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: argue we don't need the government either, but you definitely 313 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: don't need the NC double A. And to me, it's 314 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: clearly inevitable to ask these guys out of the deal, 315 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: especially as it's going with the money that's gonna have 316 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: to get split up from some of these lawsuits. I 317 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: can't imagine the NC double A in major college football 318 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: coexisting much longer because it just no longer makes sense. 319 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: Nick Cassario and Demiko, I think most people, including myself 320 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: are products professionally of how we learn when we're young. 321 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: In terms of when we get into a business, I 322 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: know my football philosophies were shaped by really three people. 323 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Pat Hill, who I worked for right out of college 324 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: at Presno State for two years, then working for Andy Reid, 325 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: and then right when I got into radio, Jim Harball 326 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: was coaching the forty nine ers and I was going 327 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: to practices and going to the games for a couple 328 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: of years, and that influence on me in my twenties 329 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: has shaped the way I look at players. What I 330 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: like in players doesn't mean I'm always right, but we 331 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: all have biases when we want a certain coach, when 332 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: we want a certain team, what we wanted to look 333 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: like at different positions, from a game to game standpoint, 334 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: from a toughness standpoint, and everyone's different and we're all 335 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: a product of our environment. I think it's a lot 336 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: like that in life. How you grow up the morals 337 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: and everything you're taught. Like the morals and like the 338 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: basic way I conduct life has not changed in thirty 339 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: plus years, and I don't think it'll ever change now. 340 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: You constantly adapt and maybe change opinions on things, but 341 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: there are some core philosophies to the way I live 342 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: that were just shaped Like by my dad. I get 343 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: anxiety if I'm late. I have a tendency to be 344 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: way early to things, and that's a product of probably 345 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: when I was like six, seven, eight, nine years old. 346 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: That was kind of beaten into me by him literally 347 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: and figured a little bit. But like being on time, 348 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: standing up straight, looking someone in their eyes, shaking their hand, 349 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: like basic things that if no one had taught me that, 350 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't do it now. Maybe you can learn 351 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: as you get older. But like, why does Andy Reid 352 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: love to throw the ball? Why does he love to 353 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: throw the ball? 354 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: Well? 355 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: Who did he work for? Or who? Excuse me, who 356 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: did he play for? In college? We went to be 357 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: in the early eighties a program way ahead of their time. 358 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: What were they doing when everyone was running like the veer, 359 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: the triple option. I saw a clip the other night 360 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: from like Oklahoma versus Nebraska. It looked like both teams 361 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: were running the wing tea because that's what a lot 362 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: of teams did, essentially versions of this crazy running game 363 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: in college forever well BYU was spreading it out and 364 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: throwing the ball with Jim McMahon with Steve Young and Andy 365 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: was an offensive lineman there. It's not a coincidence. Pat 366 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 2: Hill grew up in a much more physical old school 367 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: line of thinking. So did Jim Harball. And those guys 368 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: like running. Their favorite play is power when you pull 369 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: a guard and a tackle and run it right up 370 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: the middle with a fullback. They have wet dreams thinking 371 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: about that play, and when it's working, they will run 372 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: that play over and over and over again. Like our 373 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: guard is pulling here and he is going to lead 374 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: up the hole with our full back coming downhill. Get ready. 375 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: We don't even need to hide the play, right, And 376 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: there's a physicality behind that. Well, Nick Cassario, forever you 377 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: know there were old school coaches. We've got so many 378 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: young guys now that are that are head coaches, right. 379 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 2: I think there's a large percentage of guys that are 380 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: under four excuse me, under fifty that are currently NFL 381 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: head coaches. And Sean McVay a couple of years ago, 382 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: and I agree with him, like I have old school 383 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: football philosophical beliefs that I don't think will ever leave me. 384 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 2: But I'd also go, well, i'm paying this guy seventy 385 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: million dollars. I'm not risking him in a preseason game. 386 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: But Belichick, Bruce Arians, obviously, Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, they 387 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: liked playing their guys in the preseason because back in 388 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: the eighties, in the nineties and fifteen to twenty years ago, 389 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: that's what you did, and so why would you change 390 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: it now if it's been successful for you your whole life. Well, 391 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: Andy Reid is one of the rare guys who still 392 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: plays this guy in the preseason. Well, Nick Cassio, who 393 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: is a Belichick guy, and Demiko, who now works hand 394 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: in hand with Caserio and also played for a year 395 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: for Andy Reid said that he is going to play 396 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: his guys in the preseason. Now, listen. Like I said, 397 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: if I was in charge, if most of you were 398 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: in charge listening, I think we'd all agree. Yeah, it's 399 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: high end starters. CJ. Stroud, I'm sorry you're not getting 400 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: any reps, but I respect people who stick to their 401 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: beliefs and whether a guy gets hurt or not, like, 402 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: this is what I'm comfortable doing. I think these reps matter. 403 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: It's easy. Like the Raiders, I saw the Antonio Pierce, 404 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: another old school guy has a quarterback competition, and he's like, 405 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: if we had to name a starting quarterback right now, 406 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: we couldn't. Both the guys are gonna play in the preseason. 407 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: One will start the first game, the other will start 408 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: the second game. They'll each play a quarter. Like that's 409 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: that's basic football, that's stuff you have to do. You 410 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: don't really have a choice. But on certain teams when 411 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: you got star players, like, I'm just not risking it. 412 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: And there are still coaches and Andy definitely leads this charge, 413 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: and Demiko one of the rare young guys, like, yeah, 414 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: my guys are gonna play. I think this is important. 415 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: And I just respect anyone who just sticks to their 416 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: beliefs right, wrong or indifferent. If you believe it and 417 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: that's what's made you successful. Don't just change because other 418 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: people are changing and just to do something that doesn't 419 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: make you feel good about doing it. And I respect it. Now, 420 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: keep my fingers crossed. Hopefully no one gets injured. But 421 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: it's been happening for a long time and a lot 422 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: of there are a lot of dudes in the Hall 423 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: of Fame. That's been a lot of reps and snaps 424 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: in the preseason last but not least Matt Judung, who 425 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: controversial I think would be a strong word, but definitely 426 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: some weird stuff's been going on. Crafts a little cheap. 427 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: He's been a star player, had a bunch of sacks 428 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: those first two years there, and then last year gets injured. 429 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: Clearly they're a little hesitant to give him a big 430 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: extension he wants. One was showing up to practice doing 431 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: the whole den, but then clearly was making the coaches 432 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: uncomfortable with him just kind of sitting around. They kicked 433 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: him out of practice. He was missing for a day. 434 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: At the end of the day he was at practice 435 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: full pats and they asked him, like, what changed, and 436 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: he said, this isn't about practice. I gotta do what 437 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm contracted and obligated to do so I don't lose 438 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: my money. And I thought I respect it because so 439 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: many players like, yeah, we're working through it, we'll figure 440 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: it out. I'm not comfortable doing this. I'm trying to 441 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: be my best teammate, Like, no, this is a business, 442 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: and this is simply about money. I think I'm a 443 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: twenty three million dollar player. I'm scheduled to make way 444 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: less than that, and my contract is up after this year. 445 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't agree with their take on my situation, but 446 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't have much leverage here because they can find 447 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: me every single day. And I don't care who you 448 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: are unless your name's like Jeff Bezos or Steve Balmer. 449 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: Fifty g's a day adds up, and I would say 450 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 2: it would add up pretty quick. So if you're mat Judon, 451 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm not paying you miss a week. All 452 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: of a sudden they're charging you two hundred and fifty grand. 453 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: You're like, this is crazy. You missed three weeks. It 454 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: adds up. Now. A guy like Trent Williams would say, yeah, 455 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonn miss time because ceedee lamb. Because he's still 456 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: under his rookie contract. They can wave all the fines 457 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: the veteran players. Judon, if you were to hold out 458 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: Trent Williams, you're not able to wave. Well, Trent's just 459 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: gonna be like, Okay, I got eight hundred grand in fines. 460 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: Add that to my salary. And that's where a guy 461 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: at his level, who's even on a different level than Judon, 462 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: And part of Judon is where the Patriots we stink. 463 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: Right now, we're kind of resetting we don't want to 464 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: hitch our wagons to an older guy who's just coming 465 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: off an injury, even though you're probably if you're not 466 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: our best player, you're one of our best players went healthy, 467 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: but it's still like you probably won't be on the 468 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: team next year, so we're not comfortable giving you a 469 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: large contract right now. But we do want you here 470 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: playing because you are a good player, and maybe if 471 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: you play well, we'll trade you and you can go 472 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: somewhere else and get a contract extension. But I respect 473 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: anyone who just says what actually is going on, because 474 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: that is so rare now in sports. Everyone bullshits coaches, 475 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: players rightfully so because the media then just twists their words. 476 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: This is about as real as you can get. I'm 477 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: here because I don't want to lose my money. Very 478 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: very excited to have one of the main members of 479 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: the Fantasy Pros, which I biggest podcasts out there by far, 480 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: who's got to be gearing up Patrick fix Morris. You 481 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: can find him basically every day on Fantasy Pros. This 482 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: guy knows the stuff. He's a packer guy and a 483 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: Wisconsin guy, so we won't hold it against you out 484 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: here on the West coast. But yeah, the Packers, they're 485 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 2: coming Wisconsin. I don't know, coming quite as strong, but 486 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: you know, the future is bright the next five years. 487 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: It'll get to find out soon, John, because I believe 488 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: the Badgers open their Big Ten season at USC welcoming 489 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: USC to the Big Ten. So you know, hopefully we're 490 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: not going to be the doormats and give USC a 491 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: great start to their Big Ten existence. But I'm looking 492 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: forward to that. That's gonna be fun. So now I 493 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: get to have rivalries with people on the West coast. 494 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys in Packer Land have been very, very spoiled. 495 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: I know at the start of we're gonna get into 496 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: some fantasy here in a minute, but at the start 497 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: of last season, I just played the odds. I said, 498 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: what are the chances you go from far to Rogers 499 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: to this kid being awesome? And then the first half 500 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: of the season you went. Even Gudikins was like, yeah, 501 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: after the bye week, remember he's like, hey, he's kind 502 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: of got to prove it. And then he proved it 503 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: and more and now he's a rich man. And from 504 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: a fantasy standpoint, I mean he's a guy that a 505 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: lot of people, I mean he led the NFC last 506 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: year in touchdowns, right. 507 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and admittedly maya culpa. I was very skeptical about 508 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I didn't like the draft pick at the 509 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: time when they needed him to make a start in 510 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: place of Aaron Rodgers in Kansas City a few years 511 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: ago when Rogers had COVID that didn't go very well 512 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: at all. It was kind of a disasters start. So 513 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I was a Jordan Love skeptic. But boy did he 514 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: come on strong over the second half of last season. 515 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he was just phenomenal. That that touchdown interception 516 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: ratio was like something like twenty three to three over 517 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: his last nine or ten games. Pretty pretty incredible what 518 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: he showed. So bright future for him, I'm looking forward 519 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: to seeing what it brings. 520 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah to me, the crazy part with him, obviously the 521 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: numbers speak for themselves, but the eye test, the throws, 522 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it was Rogers like, I mean, some of 523 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: the stuff he was doing, some of the darts he 524 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: was throwing on the move, and clearly you watch him talk, 525 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you have obviously the press conferences after the money. 526 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's an impressive young guy, and I obviously 527 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: like Aaron sat for a long time behind a legend 528 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: and got his opportunity and went pedal to the medal. 529 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, love does seem like a worthy air to the throne. 530 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: John good kid and arm talent that makes it feel 531 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: like not pretty soft landing after Brat Farvan Aaron. 532 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: Rodgers full disclosure my fantasy. I'm more of a gambler 533 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: than a fantasy guy, but I have done a lot 534 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: over the I would say last six seven years the 535 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: daily fantasy, but year long fantasy. Obviously, quarterbacks aren't usually 536 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: as valuable right as the running backs, but some of 537 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: these guys in this league, because they run and pass, 538 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: has added a new dynamic at a guys like Lamar 539 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: Jackson and even Josh Allen. The rumors about rushing, we'll 540 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: see with his feet. But justin Herbert a little bit 541 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: more with Greg Roman and Harbaugh. Uh. I was reading 542 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: an article that you posted on your Twitter account about 543 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, and he clearly has to be one of 544 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: the great wild cards this year. I know he's got 545 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: your guy. They didn't I don't think played a game 546 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: last year together in the backfield. Jonathan Taylor, who's coming 547 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: on at the end, that's a pretty intriguing little group 548 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: with that with that duo right there. So from a 549 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: fantasy perspective, we really don't have any data on this 550 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: guy in terms of how high the ceiling could be. 551 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: It's it's a big unknown. But the talent speaks for itself. 552 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: When you're looking at the quarterbacks, I mean, what are 553 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: you what are your thoughts on Anthony Richardson coming into 554 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: the season when it comes to drafting the quarterback he is. 555 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: I've got him quarterback five in my rankings, and the 556 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: upside is just so appealing because he does deliver that 557 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: rushing value too, and it might be a more advanced 558 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: passer than he was generally viewed as coming out of college. 559 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: I know, I've talked to some people like Matt Waldman, 560 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: who does a lot of scouting and everything, and he 561 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: thinks it's a lot of people thought Richardson was really raw. 562 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: Waldman thinks it's more just inexperienced than him being raw, 563 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Like he's really actually pretty advanced as far as like 564 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: moving safeties around with his eyes and you know, thinking 565 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: his way through progressions and everything like that. But yeah, 566 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: it's that rushing upside that we're after, and he had 567 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: that small sample size because of the injuries and going 568 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: on injured reserve early. But like I looked at the 569 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: fantasy points per snap because he had sort of this 570 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: lower sample size, and Josh Allen led the league in 571 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: fantasy scoring for quarterbacks, and Richardson actually had like fifteen 572 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: percent more fantasy points per snap than Josh Allen. Like 573 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: when he was on the field, he just was ringing 574 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: the cash machine with fantasy points, like racking it up 575 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: with his arm and legs. So it's pretty exciting. And 576 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: then you think about what could happen with Jonathan Taylor, 577 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: And I think back to when RG three was a 578 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: rookie playing with Alfred Morris, who I think a lot 579 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: of people would probably agree was not an extraordinarily talented 580 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: running back, and RG three that RPO game just totally 581 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: open up things for Morris and an RG three's rookie. Yar, 582 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: I think Alfred Morris ran for like sixteen hundred yards and. 583 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: I think it was like sixteen fifty or something. Did 584 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: he lead the league in rushing that year? 585 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, just ridiculous numbers. And that was Alf's rookie season two, 586 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: so you would have thought he was on a Hall 587 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: of Fame track after that start. But so I wonder 588 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: if the Richardson Taylor combo might not look a lot 589 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: like that. So I'm in on Anthony Richardson and I'm 590 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: really in on Jonathan Taylor. 591 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: One thing's clear. I'm sure this is a key for 592 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: when you guys do rankings with players, because the talent 593 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: obviously has to be there, but I mean the high 594 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: end in the NFL, these guys are talented. Who their 595 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: coaches and what their scheme is. You go back to 596 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: RG three and Alfred Morris. I mean, turns out Kyle 597 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: Shanahan kind of knows what he's doing when he's calling 598 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: run plays and offense. And I think Shane Stiken, I 599 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: think he's one of the better, you know, younger offensive 600 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: play callers in recent memory. I mean, I'd put him 601 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: right there with with Kyle and Sean, and I think 602 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: he's got a chance to be a star. So the 603 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: only question that how do we answer is the health 604 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: and he's going to have to prove that on the field. 605 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: But the talent. I was at the gym one day 606 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: this offseason. I looked up and they were replaying the 607 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: Rams Colts game, and it was like Jesus Anthony Richardson. 608 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: Guys really talented, you know, I mean, and it was 609 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, against a team that at the time the 610 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: Rams weren't as good, but it was really, really impressive. 611 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think the Colts I don't think 612 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: it's crazy from a gambling perspective to bet on them 613 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: to win the division, do you. 614 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. They if they can patch up that 615 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: secondary and make that work, like I think they have 616 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: the horse because really good offensive line. Richardson's talented. I 617 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: think they have enough as far as pass catchers. But 618 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: and as far as the injury thing goes John, I mean, 619 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: I know that didn't work out very well in year 620 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: one for Anthony Richardson, but it's pretty reassuring that the 621 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: guy's a tank, that he's almost two hundred and fifty 622 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: pounds and isn't going to get crash test dummied if 623 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: he takes a hit from a linebacker. You know he 624 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: can he can withstand some shots and hopefully, you know, 625 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: make it through a full season this year. 626 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 2: Is it fair to say Christian McCaffrey is the universal 627 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: number one running back around the league. 628 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: I think so, yes, and probably the top pick in 629 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: eighty ninety percent of fantasy drafts this fall. 630 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: So it's safe to say the debate really starts at 631 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: kind of the two three range. Who you like the 632 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: most or do you think there are some specific guys 633 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: because one name I wrote down when you factor in 634 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: the offensive line, when you factor in the talent on offense, 635 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: a little like Anthony Richardson, but this guy proven it 636 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 2: would be Saquan with the Eagles to have a big season. 637 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: Is that too rich for your liking to have him 638 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: in that kind of tier? 639 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, I am torn on Saquon john because he 640 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: has not been What we loved about him when he 641 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: was coming out of Penn State, was that pass catching 642 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: ability and the potential that he could be another Marshall 643 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: Falk type who was just awesome as both a runner 644 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: and pass catcher. We haven't seen him be really that 645 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: good as a pass catcher since twenty nineteen. I don't 646 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: think Jalen Hurts is a guy who's gonna throw a 647 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of passes to his running backs. He just hasn't 648 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: been to this point. And you do wonder if maybe 649 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: with the tush push that caps Barkley's touchdown upside a little. 650 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: But then again, I worry that Barkley could sort of 651 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: cap Jalen Hurts touchdown run potential because Hertz has had 652 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: double digit rushing touchdowns at all three of the NFL 653 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: season so far. I wonder if he keeps that streak 654 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: alive now that they have Saquon, who they can give 655 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: the BA when they get inside the green zone. So yeah, 656 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: but you do have to like the fact that he's 657 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: getting a really good offensive line for probably the first 658 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: time in his career. So I think it's a net 659 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: positive for Saquon to go from the Giants to the Eagles. 660 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: So who's kind of your crew guys right behind Christian McCaffrey. 661 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 2: Then in that two to three range that could just 662 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: have massive seasons that win the dust settles would be 663 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: like that guy was the number one Fantasy player in 664 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: the season if they're healthy. 665 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the other clear cut first 666 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: rounders at running back john are Bjeon Robinson and Breise Hall. 667 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of splitting hairs between those 668 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: two for me, and I think different people have different 669 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: opinions on that one. I think Bijon Robinson is was 670 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: not used optimally last year with Arthur Smith agree to favor. Yeah, 671 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: Tyler Aljery gave a lot of run and he seemed 672 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: to like Algier more inside the twenty yard line. But 673 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: now Falcons have a good offensive line that often it's 674 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: just going to be more robust with Kirk Cousins being 675 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: able to move the chains better than either Desmond Ritter 676 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke did last year. And they play in a 677 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: week division, so they should have favorable scripts for running backs, 678 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: so he's up there. And then Breist Hall, who was 679 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: just a monster down the stretch last year. I mean 680 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: they understandably used him with kid gloves for much of 681 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: the season coming off the knee injury, but then down 682 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: the stretch they let him eat as far as workload, 683 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: and he was just cranking out some really impressive numbers. 684 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: So both of those guys can catch passes. Both of 685 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: those guys can do a lot of damage as runners. 686 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: There is definitely a path for either of those guys 687 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: to be the overall number one running back. Christian McCaffrey 688 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: were to miss anytime, and. 689 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: You would think b John Zach Robinson gonna run a 690 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: Shanahan style offense right which will feature that guy predominantly 691 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: in the run in the pass game. 692 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Shanahan offenses then get the right running 693 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: back in that system. It's just been gold. 694 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk some quarterbacks. We'll start with your guy. 695 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 2: I mean, could he have a forty touchdown type season 696 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: Jeordan Love and the Green Bay. 697 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: Packers optimistically yes, And they start with a pretty easy 698 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: schedule too. Things don't pick up for them schedule wise 699 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: until November. So if you want to get your team 700 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: off to a pretty hot start, maybe Love is a 701 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: good guy to targets. Gets open with the Eagles, who 702 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: had some I know they drafted a bunch of cornerbacks, 703 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: but they did have a lot of secondary problems last year. 704 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited about him. And we like the 705 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: weapons right down from like running wide receiver one which 706 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's Christian Watson or Jaden 707 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: Reed or Romeo Dubbs, all the way down to bou Melton, 708 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: their fifth receiver, who was actually the first Packers receiver 709 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: to have one hundred yard game last year and might 710 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: be the fastest guy on the team. So just so 711 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: many good young pass catchers. Doesn't have to worry about 712 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: a defense taking away any one of them. He's got 713 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: a couple of good tight ends too, so like good 714 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: infrastructure for him. Yeah, he is a great deal of offside. 715 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: I think I only have him ranked quarterback ten, but 716 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: a top five finishes certainly within his range of outcomes. 717 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacobs catch the ball too, He's got to stay 718 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: on the field. We mentioned this guy earlier, Jalen Hurts. 719 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 2: I know he threw a bunch of picks last year, 720 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: but the running and passing and obviously the receivers are 721 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: freaking awesome. The tight end's good at Saquon. Like you said, 722 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 2: I mean the pass game hasn't been his forte with 723 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: the Giants, but I mean it's kind of been a 724 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: disaster there Offensively. A couple of years ago, Jalen was 725 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: incredible and last year down the stretch kind of fell apart, 726 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: but the offensive coordinator changed. How much does Kellen Moore 727 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: factor in to where you think about him. I mean 728 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: he's been a little more pass heavy, is that fair 729 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: to say than the runs. 730 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully we get a revival of Jalen Hurts under 731 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore because there was such a a drop off 732 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: last year in terms of the passing efficiency going from 733 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: I think eight yards per attempt or thereabouts in his 734 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: last year with Shane Stike in to like seven point 735 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: two or seven point three last year, whatever it was, 736 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: and just the interception rate ticked up, and then just 737 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: there were instances where it just seemed like the wheels 738 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: came off for the offense. I mean, we remember the 739 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: shouting match on the sideline with Dallas Goddard during that 740 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: disastrous playoff game against the Buccaneers. It seemed like things 741 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: just went off the rails there. And with the talent 742 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: he's got among his pass catchers with aj Brown, with 743 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, with Dallas Goddards and that offensive line like 744 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: things should, you would think things are going to bounce 745 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: back for Hurts. But I do worry about sae Quon 746 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: cutting into his rushing numbers as far as touchdowns and 747 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: the yardage numbers kind of fell off last year and rushing. 748 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: So he's not one of my top three fantasy quarterbacks, 749 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: but he's right on the doorstep, and you know, certainly 750 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: if someone wants to take him as their second quarterback 751 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: behind Josh Allen, I'm not gonna criticize that decision. 752 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 2: Is it safe to say, would you take Anthony Richson 753 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: over Jalen Hurts at the start of the season. 754 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: I believe I do have Richardson ranked ahead of Hurts, 755 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: and I know that's not a consensuble. Let me just 756 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: check on that job to. 757 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 2: Say, your top couple is Lamar Allen or you know, 758 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 2: no particular order, those guys top five quarterbacks right from 759 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 2: fantasy perspective. 760 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I've actually got Richardson four and Hurts five. 761 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah three, I've got Josh Allen three, Lamar two, and 762 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes back in the number one spot. I just think 763 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes is gonna be He was so hamstrung last year 764 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: by not having a wide receiver who could get open 765 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: downfield like Rashie Rice was all manufactured stuff, little hitches 766 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: and wide receiver screens, and like he's dealing with Mark 767 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: has Like probably his most reliable downfield weapon last year 768 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: was Justin Watson. Now he's got Hollywood Brown, he's got 769 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, he's got some speed that you know, I'm 770 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: sure the mad scientist Andy Reid is gonna love to 771 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: play with and draw things up. Like I'm expecting a 772 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: big bounce back for Patrick Mahomes this year. And he 773 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: runs a little bit too, which helps. 774 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, let's face it, you know Andy did 775 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 2: it last year because he had to. But he wants 776 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 2: to pass and he wants to throw deep. Yeah, so 777 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean he would He's gonna win no matter what. 778 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: He would much rather win with a quarterback throwing forty 779 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: touchdowns than a running back rushing for two thousand yards, right, 780 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 2: if all things being equal. 781 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing I'll point out, John is 782 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: I forget exactly how many touchdowns the Chiefs scored last 783 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: year during the regular season. I want to say it 784 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: was like thirty six or thirty. 785 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: Couldn't have been many, right, because they weren't scoring many points. 786 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you look back at the Red Mahomes pairing, 787 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: like that touchdown count for them is usually like in 788 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: the upper fifties. I mean, they are going to get 789 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: a big balance on touchdowns this year. And you know, 790 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty safe to say that Patrick Mahomes is going 791 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: to have a hand in a lot of those extra touchdowns. 792 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: So if you like Mahomes, you know, from a drafting perspective, 793 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: would you double down Onworthy the rookie. 794 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: Right now? 795 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: Go? Savers can be tough, right. 796 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got him behind Hollywood Brown and Rashid Rice, 797 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: but not a big gap between any of those three. 798 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: Right now, you're dialed in on the NFC North. The 799 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 2: bears a lot of hype, right, a lot of hype, 800 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: and DJ gets this massive contract, and sometimes I kind 801 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 2: of forgot I unless I've loved DJ Moore for years. 802 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 2: But you look at his numbers, You're like, that is 803 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: way better than I even realize playing with the quarterbacks 804 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 2: of which he played with. But now you add Keenan Allen, 805 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: you add Rome, you add DeAndre Swift. Is it safe 806 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: to say that his numbers? Like, would he be the 807 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: number one wide receiver still for you on that team? 808 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: On that team? 809 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: Yes, But do you feel he comes back to earth 810 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: a little bit? He was ninety six thirteen and maybe 811 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: he has the same touchdowns. But is he getting ninety 812 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 2: six catches this season? 813 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: Probably not. We do expect a more of an even 814 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: target distribution with that team, with Keenan Allen, who's obviously 815 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 1: going to command targets. And if Romo Doones is everything 816 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: he's cracked up to be, I mean that guy Odonsay 817 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: was amazing in college pretty much anything that's thrown his way. 818 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, just a master of contested catches. So yeah, 819 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: and then maybe it gets a little bumpy with a 820 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in the passing game, it always does well 821 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: for most rookie quarterbacks, So yeah, I think we have 822 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: to look at at least a little bit of a 823 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 1: drop off for DJ more in terms of reception volume. 824 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: But I've still got him inside my top twenty for fantasy. 825 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 2: A wide receiver, well, obviously those guys are can produce. 826 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 2: That means a quarterback who's got as much hype as 827 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: anyone since Andrew Luck the rookie quarterbacks, he's got to 828 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 2: be the number one rookie quarterback for you on the board. 829 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: What are realistic expectations for a guy that you know, 830 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 2: because let's face it, if they don't win nine games, 831 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: I would say it's going to feel like a pretty 832 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: big disappointment anything under five hundred, and the pressure there 833 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: is going to be pretty intense. And we know the division. 834 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: I think you guys are clearly going to be good 835 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: in the Lions, I think are pretty stacked. So it's 836 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: you can finish third, have a good season, Minnesota clips 837 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: you once all of a sudden you're eight nine. You 838 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: actually didn't play that bad. 839 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, if Caleb State is healthy all year, I 840 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 1: would guess he's going to finish somewhere around thirty seven 841 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: thirty eight hundred yards and twenty five tds or so. 842 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: And maybe that's a little conservative, but now we have 843 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: to expect the rookie ups and downs for sure. But 844 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: you know, like I love him as a prospect. John, 845 00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about. 846 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 2: Him, Yeah, I mean that's all. It's pretty special. 847 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I'm not knocking him for any that 848 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: I know. It wasn't the year USC wanted to have 849 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: last year, but that offensive line was kind of falling apart, 850 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't have an abundance of great pass catchers. You know, 851 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: like he's going to a better supporting cast in Chicago 852 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: than he had last year. And that's the nice thing 853 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: because rookie quarterbacks are typically going to terrible teams like 854 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: Bryce Young did last year. And you know, Caleb Caleb 855 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: gets this great, great group of pass catchers and the Bears. 856 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: It's been so long since the Bears have had like 857 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: more than one good pass catcher. You know, Dj Moore 858 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: showed up and that ended kind of a long drought, 859 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: and you know they had Brandon Marshall for a while, 860 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: but normally it's just, uh, I don't know. I don't 861 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: remember a Bears pass catching group being this electric. 862 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 2: Ever, I'm with you, well, CJ. Last year, twenty six 863 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 2: touchdowns and like not that many interceptions. I had a 864 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: historic rookie season. So if he get around there, even 865 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 2: I think he might throw a couple more picks. It 866 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: feels like he's a little more. It got a little 867 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: far off to him. But like you said, USC last year, 868 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 2: the USC that anyone the way it's talked about, like 869 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 2: the Pete Carroll days, that team last year was an embarrassment. 870 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: I mean it really was the offensive line, the defense 871 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: that was not. They earned seven to five and probably 872 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 2: could have been worse. I mean they got very lucky 873 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 2: in an Arizona game. They were really bad. So it's 874 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: I think you got to look at two years ago 875 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 2: when he was a little bit better. He was better, 876 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 2: obviously won the Heisman, but he had Jordan Addison and 877 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: I mean he was a star that year. And this 878 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: is gonna be to me more the only thing I 879 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 2: wonder about, and this is what the advantage Kyle has 880 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 2: McVeigh has. You guys have in Green Bay, when your 881 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 2: head coach is the play caller, they work hand in 882 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 2: hand with the guy. This is not that scenario with 883 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: the Bears, right defensive head coach Shane Waldron, who I like. 884 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 2: You know, he's a he came coach with McVeigh, so 885 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: that that system. I'm sure he changed it a little 886 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: bit for Caleb, but some of that stuff play action. 887 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: If you can get the run game going, it does 888 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 2: make it easier on the quarterback and he doesn't have 889 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 2: to be hero ball as much as he has been 890 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 2: in college. 891 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: Right, Right, Caleb's improvisational skills are so impressive, but I 892 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: think he had to exercise those improv skills far more 893 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 1: last year than anyone would have liked. And as good 894 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: as he is when the play breaks down, they're definitely 895 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna have some plans for him. And I don't think 896 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to deal with, you know, the improv 897 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 1: stuff nearly as much as he did last year. 898 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 2: Okay, it's pretty clear that, I mean, Jaden's I think 899 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: fair to say he's going to end up starting. I 900 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,959 Speaker 2: know they haven't officially announced that Drake May's not, JJ 901 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 2: McCarthy's not Michael Pennox obviously is not and Bo Nick. 902 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,919 Speaker 2: So we talked Caleb. Between Jaden and Bo Nicks, who 903 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 2: do you if you had to rank the rookie quarterbacks, 904 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: if you have Caleb one from a fantasy perspective, how 905 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: you go in two three? 906 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 1: So believe it or not, John, I actually have Jayden 907 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: Daniels ahead of Caleb just a little bit. And it's 908 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: because of Yeah, and that's a risk with him because 909 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: he does he will get crash test dumbed, and he's 910 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: got to learn to protect himself a little better than 911 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: he did in college. Because we saw him leave a 912 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: game last year against Alabama where I think it was 913 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: Dallas Dallas Turner like just clobbered him and knocked him 914 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: out of a game that LSU was in. And as 915 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: soon as he left, of course, Alabama just roared ahead. 916 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: But I am anxious to see Jaden Daniels paired with 917 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsberry, who coached the top ten fantasy season out 918 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray in Kyler's rookie season. You know, Kingsbury 919 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: has been criticized at times. He's got a little bit 920 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,919 Speaker 1: of his passing offense in Arizona could be a little 921 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: more horizontal than vertical at times, which people didn't always love. 922 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 1: But Cliff does really push the tempo, which means more 923 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 1: plays and you know, more fantasy value for his quarterbacks, 924 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: everyone in the offense. And like he's gonna have to 925 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: deal with a shaky offensive line. I would say Washington 926 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: probably is a bottom five offensive line, but he does 927 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: have some pass catching talent with Terry McLaurin. We'll see 928 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: if they can get Johan Dotson back in track. They 929 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: drafted Luke McCaffrey. They drafted Ben Sinnett, a good looking 930 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: tight end, So I'm excited about what he's gonna do. 931 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna give you a lot of fantasy 932 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: value with his legs right away. And this is a 933 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaker 1: guy who threw I think a combined thirty one touchdown 934 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: passes just to mind leak neighbors and Brian Thomas at 935 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: LSU in like thirteen games last year, so there's some 936 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: touchdown upside as well. 937 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 2: You know, I've been thinking a lot about how I'm 938 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 2: gonna pick the divisions and who I want to gamble on. 939 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 2: I think one team that a lot of people are 940 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 2: high on or that are gonna make strides would be 941 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 2: washed and I think I'm gonna go the other way. 942 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 2: Not that I don't. I like Adam Peters, I like 943 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn. Big picture, obviously, the quarterbacks talented. I just 944 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 2: wonder if their team's not gonna be that good, right. 945 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 2: They had to go heavy on the draft and sign, 946 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 2: and I just there's a lot of buzz. I'm probably 947 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: gonna pick him to finish last in that division. And 948 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 2: I hear you on the Kyler stuff. Kyler, who was thicker, 949 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: built a little more like a tank. It felt like 950 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 2: he was more natural at avoiding the hits he'd get 951 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 2: out of bout he was so fast. I mean, he's 952 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 2: just one of the most electric players. And like you said, 953 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 2: this guy's a little more Michael Vick that even in 954 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 2: this day and age where you don't Steve Atwaters and 955 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 2: the John Lynches aren't killing it, you still get hit 956 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 2: hard if you're running around, and he's gonna have to 957 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 2: run around, like you said, because their offensive line is terrible. 958 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 2: It makes me nervous, even though it's hard to watch 959 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: LSU last year and not see I mean, it's oozing 960 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 2: with talent, but is the talent he had on that team? 961 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 1: Right? 962 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 2: The two sweet wide receivers, one guy could be a superstar. 963 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 2: The offensive line. They have a left tackle who I 964 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 2: think is gonna be a top ten guy. That's just 965 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 2: relative to his opponents, Like this is a huge downgrade 966 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 2: for him, right, what's surrounding him? 967 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I think so. And the body type is certainly 968 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 1: more Lamar than He's right. He's not a thick guy 969 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: or compact. Not a thick guy like Anthony Richardson, not 970 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: a compact guy like Kyler Murray. But Lamar always had 971 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 1: this sense of like how to avoid those big hits. 972 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: Like Lamar just kind of shimmis his way around those 973 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: big kill shots that people are trying to deliver it. 974 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if Jane Daniels says that's skill yet. 975 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 1: But one thing about the defense, John, and I agree 976 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 1: with you on Washington overall, sometimes having a bad defense 977 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: can actually be a good thing for a quarterback and them. 978 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 1: You know, I think we could see the same thing 979 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 1: with Tua this year. With everything Miami lost on defense 980 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: in free agency along with their coordinator Vic Fangio, like 981 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Commanders, defenses could be pretty pretty shaky 982 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: this year, which might lead to some shootout game scripts 983 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: for Jane Daniels and Tua. 984 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 2: It does feel that's a good point from a fantasy perspective. 985 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 2: When your defense is awesome, Chiefs were the Ravens, it 986 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 2: does slow down the game a little bit. You gain 987 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: control in the second half. These coaches, this is in college. 988 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 2: You're not trying to run up the score when you're 989 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 2: playing in these shootouts. You just kind of let it rip. 990 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: I think CJ. Stroud benefited a little bit from that 991 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: last year. Right, Their defense isn't wasn't as good as 992 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 2: it's going to be this year, and they just had 993 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,280 Speaker 2: to let it rip to win games. 994 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jane Daniels will be pretty familiar with that, 995 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: with the defense he had to play with at LSU 996 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: last year. So he's no stranger to these OK Corral 997 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: type game scripts. 998 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: You think Bo Knicks can throw twenty plus touch sounds this. 999 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: Year, maybe he can get to twenty. John He is 1000 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: really interesting. I don't know what to make of him. 1001 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: Maybe he's the perfect Sean Payton ball control quarterback. Like 1002 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: he threw such a high percentage of screen passes throughout 1003 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: his college career, Like he was way above any other 1004 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: quarterback prospect in percentage of screens. I think he'll probably 1005 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 1: be a dump off machine too. Like I'm really keeping 1006 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: tabs on the Denver running back situation because Sean Payton's 1007 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: teams perennially lead the league or near the top of 1008 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: the league in running back targets. We saw it like 1009 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: time and time again in New Orleans, whether it was 1010 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush or Pierre Thomas or Alvin Kamara, running backs 1011 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: catching a lot of passes. And Denver had one hundred 1012 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: and fifty three running back targets last year, most in 1013 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: the league. And now you've got this guy who's kind 1014 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: of a checkdown in screen machine in bow Knicks, Like, 1015 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 1: I want to pay attention to see if Julia McLoughlin 1016 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 1: has an expanded role this year, and they've really been 1017 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: talking him up. I guess he went out and got 1018 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: a jugs machine in the off season so he could 1019 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: work on that by himself, like in the park down 1020 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: the street. I want to see if Davonte Williams is 1021 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: back to his old self after looking a little bit, 1022 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe diminished last year coming off the knee injury. 1023 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, Nix is interesting for sure. I don't think 1024 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: he's going to be a league winning type of player 1025 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: for fantasy managers. But I do think there's maybe a 1026 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: little bit of sneaky upside. 1027 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 2: I saw the Niners running back Jordan Mason say that 1028 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: he also bought a three thousand dollars drugs machine this 1029 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 2: offseason had his dad. They'd go out like every other 1030 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 2: day and they chew like five hundred balls, you know. 1031 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 2: So that's obviously you have to catch the ball in 1032 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 2: the modern day game, right, I mean, it's just it's 1033 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 2: a must. Before it was so many Derrick Henry types 1034 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: used to be the majority of the league, and then 1035 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,919 Speaker 2: Marshall Fulk or La Danian Thomlinson, the truth three down 1036 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 2: back who could also catch would stand out. Now it 1037 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 2: feels like all the top guys you know, have that 1038 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 2: in their repertoire, right, and that's just only gonna continue 1039 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: moving forward with what's coming out of college. 1040 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of jugs machines, I think Marvin Harrison 1041 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: Junior has some he likes working with some turbo one 1042 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 1: that throws footballs like at the speed of sound or 1043 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: something like that. He's ready for anything. 1044 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 2: Do you think he's a good name. I mean, toward 1045 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 2: the end of the season, Kyler, that game against the 1046 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 2: Eagles when he really started getting his mojo. He hasn't 1047 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: always been my favorite, you know, just like I wouldn't 1048 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,879 Speaker 2: have invested that much money in that guy. But there 1049 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 2: has never been any argument about the guy's physical gifts. 1050 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 2: And when you get him on a game, he could 1051 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 2: be playing with me and you, or he could have 1052 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald Marvin Harrison out there. You could lose that 1053 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 2: game when he gets hot, and he's done that countless 1054 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 2: times the last couple of years. To me, he's a 1055 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 2: massive wild card this year. I don't know how good 1056 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 2: their team is going to be, but he proves time 1057 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 2: and time again, like if you go in sleeping on them, 1058 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's got and he gets hot. 1059 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes you watch him, you know, in that first quarter 1060 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 2: like there's kind of a malaise, and then by like 1061 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 2: the third quarter, he's like a Kevin Durantz, like he's 1062 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 2: had a three threes in a row. You better watch out, 1063 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 2: and then he's just coming and there's no stopping him. 1064 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: Fantasy managers, I think have noticed that where if you 1065 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: are a Kyler Murray investor, you'll be and you know, 1066 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: alarmed when he goes into halftime with like three point 1067 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: nine points and all of a sudden it's the end 1068 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: of the game and he's finished with like twenty three 1069 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: and a half, So he can get streaky. Indeed, I 1070 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: think his season might depend on whether Marvin Harrison is 1071 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: merely good or truly special. And I think truly specials 1072 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: in play for that guy. I mean, I'm out here 1073 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: in Big ten Country, John like watching Marvin Harrison every week. Like, 1074 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think that guy has any holes in 1075 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: his game whatsoever. I mean, he's he's maybe not the 1076 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: right runner that his dad was just yet, but like 1077 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: he works it exactly, and you know, when you're that big, 1078 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: obviously he's got a little bit of size on his dad, 1079 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: and you know, his contested catch skills are pretty special. 1080 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fantastic from the jump. 1081 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean, if I told you Molik Neighbors, you know, 1082 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: was on certain teams, you'd be like, put your chips 1083 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 2: in the middle of the table. But when I say 1084 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones is a starting quarterback, it's hard to 1085 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 2: be that high. And I love to me he was 1086 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,919 Speaker 2: my favorite wide receiver because I was thinking, ceiling, there's 1087 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 2: no Marvin Harrison can't fail this guy. You get with 1088 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: the wrong quarterback. He could feel underwhelming just because of 1089 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 2: his skill set. But I don't know, maybe the day 1090 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 2: ball can get him quick screens, He's get him the 1091 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,959 Speaker 2: ball end arounds. If Daniel Jones is unable to push 1092 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 2: the ball down the field, which I wouldn't really call 1093 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 2: that his go to move. 1094 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just wonder if Daniel Jones is going to 1095 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: like let the air out of Elik Neighbors tires in 1096 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: his rookie year. But you the point of optimism I'm 1097 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: clinging to as someone who has drafted Neighbors in a 1098 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: lot of these early drafts of John John is that 1099 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: two years ago, Daniel Jones in Brian dables first year 1100 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: with the Giants, the Giants were sixteenth in offensive touchdowns. 1101 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: They were middle of the pack. And if they could 1102 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: just get back to that, I would think Elik Neighbors 1103 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: is going to stake out a pretty big share of 1104 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: those offense touchdowns because. 1105 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 2: He only Daniel Jones two years ago threw fifteen touchdowns? 1106 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 2: Is that the number? I think? 1107 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 1: Is that what it was? 1108 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? So, I mean, but if I tell you that 1109 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones throws sixteen touchdowns. I think we'd all say, well, 1110 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: I bet Maleagu Nabors has six or seven of those potentially, right, hopefully, 1111 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 2: because so some of those could be on a slant, 1112 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 2: broken tackle stuff like that. He has that ability. 1113 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just had so little else a wide receiver. 1114 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen High, it's an interesting deep threat, but 1115 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: then what Wandel Robinson and Darius Slayton. There's just not 1116 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: much else there. 1117 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 2: You tweeted this article. I'm not sure if you wrote 1118 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 2: this part or someone else did, But George Kittle gets 1119 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 2: talked about like he gets overdrafted a lot, when it 1120 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 2: turns out he's actually underdrafted. Can you explain your thoughts 1121 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 2: on the tight end in San Francisco as a player, 1122 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 2: because just as a as a fan, I'd go, yeah, 1123 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 2: it feels like he's been banged up. He's not quite 1124 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 2: the same player, But he turns out to be a 1125 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 2: pretty productive individual from a fantasy perspective. 1126 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Correct, he does John, But what what I think can 1127 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: be a turn off to some people is that he 1128 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: is very inconsistent with his week to week production. And 1129 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I think part of that is the curse of him 1130 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: being such a great blocker and sometimes that's more the 1131 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: game plan with George Kittle that they're going to use 1132 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: him to, you know, maybe help Chip on an especially 1133 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: dangerous edge rusher, or they decide to go run heavy 1134 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: in a particular week and George Kittle is used to 1135 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: help in that regard. But other weeks, when they feature 1136 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,439 Speaker 1: him in the passing game, he can just go off. 1137 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen him with multiple thousand yard seasons, 1138 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: and you know, like I will take the inconsistency week 1139 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: to week. I want that guy who can give me 1140 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: the incredible spike weeks from a position where you do 1141 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: not get a lot of spike weeks typically. So you know, 1142 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: I have seen him underdrafted in some leagues, but I 1143 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: almost never see George Kittle overdrafted in leagues anymore. Like 1144 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: no one reaches for George Kittle in drafts these days. 1145 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I am a big advocate of drafting 1146 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: George Kittle at his average draft position, which you know 1147 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: typically this year you can get him around the sixth 1148 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: round in most twelve team leagues. I think he's a 1149 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: good value there. 1150 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Would you say beside remove McCaffrey like you said, the 1151 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 2: Niners more of like a daily fantasy team because week 1152 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 2: to week, George could have no catches. In the next 1153 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: game he has three touchdowns, Deebo Samuel, you don't see 1154 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 2: him for two weeks, then he has two straight weeks 1155 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 2: or he gets two touchdowns east game. 1156 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Brandon Ayuka, I think has been one 1157 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: of the more overvalued guys this year because people saw 1158 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: that he had a thirteen hundred yard season last year, 1159 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: and I think he's really talented, but he did that 1160 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: on only one hundred and five targets, and he just 1161 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: had freakish numbers as far as yards per catch, yards 1162 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: per target, yards per route run. We're probably going to 1163 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: get a little bit of regression to the mean there. 1164 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: And even though like his efficiency numbers in all those 1165 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: categories are going to be above average because he's a 1166 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:11,439 Speaker 1: really good player. But I looked at the number of 1167 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: the receivers who had between one hundred and one hundred 1168 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: and ten targets last year, their average yardage output was 1169 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: like nine hundred and ninety and I would kick that 1170 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: by like almost four hundred yards. So I just don't 1171 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: think unless they find a lot more targets for him, 1172 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, which might be like it might take a 1173 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: long term injury to someone else in that offense. I 1174 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: just don't know if he can live up to top twelve, 1175 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 1: top fifteen receiver status. So that's how he's being drafted 1176 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: this year. 1177 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 2: And I think from on the field standpoint, I think 1178 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,959 Speaker 2: that's their biggest issue with this contract because in any 1179 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 2: other world, in any other business, the numbers of all 1180 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 2: these other contracts, if we were trying to sell a 1181 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 2: house or acquire a business Onmin Ross, Saint Brown, DJ Moore, 1182 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 2: their stats speak for themselves. Where are you? Because this 1183 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 2: unique player, like you said, he is a talented guy, 1184 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 2: and he has a rapport with brought Purty, but his 1185 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 2: numbers because of the offense, which last time I checked, 1186 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 2: isn't gonna change with Kyle Shanahan there. So it's kind 1187 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 2: of a conundrum therein which honestly makes me nervous even 1188 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 2: about drafting him. If they don't get a contract, they 1189 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 2: don't trade him, and he's playing on the contract, is 1190 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 2: he mentally there? And speaking of the Niners, the party 1191 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 2: to be Perty and golf for two guys right that 1192 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,439 Speaker 2: they have a lot of weapons. They put up really 1193 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 2: good stats. The running GoF doesn't move at all. Party can, 1194 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,959 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't call him really a running threat past 1195 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,479 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. He keeps plays alive, which which 1196 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 2: is definitely additive because he puts up a lot of 1197 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 2: extra stats scrambling around. Who do you like more out 1198 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 2: of those two guys from a statistical standpoint this year, 1199 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 2: I have to. 1200 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: Go with Perty just because he was so insanely efficient. 1201 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I even though Ben Johnson is a really good offensive coordinator. 1202 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'll take the Shanahan system over the Ben 1203 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 1: Johnson offense. You have to, I think with a surrounding 1204 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: talent he has. And boy, I'd like to see Purdy 1205 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: run a little more. He looked pretty nimble in the 1206 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: playoffs as a runner, didn't he. 1207 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 2: No, he's an He's an underrated And I think that 1208 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 2: we talk about Anthony Richardson when they drafted Trey Lance, 1209 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: I think they thought they were getting this physical specimen 1210 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 2: that can move. It turns out Trey's not very fast, 1211 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 2: and then they get Purty and he moves dramatically better. 1212 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 2: He's just quicker, quick twitch. Again, He's not taking off 1213 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 2: like Lamar Jackson or Anthony Richardson down the field, but 1214 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage. They get a lot of 1215 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 2: big plays from that. The forty nine ers where the 1216 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 2: where the Lions are a good example. They're paying all 1217 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 2: this the offensive line because they have to because their 1218 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 2: guy is a very old school statue who's a good 1219 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 2: pocket quarterback, but he he can't move around like a 1220 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 2: Jordan Love a Brock Purdy, which is I would say 1221 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 2: pretty consistent with the modern game of football. Most of 1222 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 2: these guys are pretty good athletes, right. 1223 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Yes, And so Purdy is just he is such a 1224 01:04:54,880 --> 01:05:00,040 Speaker 1: good proxy for Kyle Shanahan and being that uh just 1225 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: running that offense and being the distributor, being the perfect 1226 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: pass first point guard for that offense. And I don't 1227 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: know if he has top ten fantasy upside, but I 1228 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: think there's a really good chance he finishes in that 1229 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen range. Again, so he's like one of 1230 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: the safer plays I think you can make a quarterback 1231 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: in fantasy. 1232 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Let's end on some running backs just with the unit. 1233 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 2: You know, Jim Harbaugh, we know likes to run the 1234 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 2: ball game. Last year against Penn State, I think technically 1235 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 2: he was suspended, but he was probably high five in 1236 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 2: everyone at home where I don't think the quarterback threw 1237 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 2: it over ten times, and that's kind of been as 1238 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 2: Ethos going back to San Diego obviously at Stanford with 1239 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, JK. Dobbins, Gus Edwards. I mean, 1240 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 2: that's the group. I mean, if you're gonna draft one, 1241 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 2: you gotta kind of draft them both. You clearly don't 1242 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 2: have to draft him both as high as some of 1243 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 2: these other names. Correct. 1244 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. The nice thing is they're both going pretty late 1245 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: and you can get them pretty cheaply. Gus I think 1246 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 1: is going to start, but there's not a lot of 1247 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: pass catching upside, and he's had some injury issues, and 1248 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: we know JK. Dobbins injury history, which is pretty bleak 1249 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 1: to have blown out his knee and have torn in achilles. 1250 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 1: But apparently he's looked pretty good in camp so far. 1251 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: I do think in a lot of leagues as a 1252 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: late round pick, Kamani Videll there might be a sneaky option. 1253 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: The all time leading rusher for Troy University, a sixth 1254 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,919 Speaker 1: round pick this year and just man like a little 1255 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 1: bowling ball. I like him a lot. Obviously, it's going 1256 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: to take some time for him to get traction on 1257 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 1: the depth chart, especially with baby kind of an old 1258 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: school coach like Harbow. He's not going to quickly promote rookies. 1259 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: But if Goss and or Dobbins can't hold up, I 1260 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to see Videll playing a Fantasy relevant 1261 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: role at some point pretty soon. 1262 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to his brother. Derrick Henry had one 1263 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 2: of the great stretches definitely the last twenty five years 1264 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 2: for there with Rabel and the Titans. Felt like he 1265 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 2: was kind of falling off, but he still had twelve 1266 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 2: touchdowns last year. What do you take away and what 1267 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 2: do you make of him? Lamar? That offense is that 1268 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 2: a fit does feel when you close your eyes, you 1269 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,439 Speaker 2: don't quite see it, but maybe it does work. Does 1270 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 2: he have anything left? What are your thoughts on Old 1271 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 2: King Henry. 1272 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: That's funny that you say that, John, about closing your 1273 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 1: eyes and trying to see that, because I've been doing 1274 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: the same thing and it's just hard for me to 1275 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: picture Lamar and Henry playing together. I just like, I 1276 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to see it, but I can't picture it 1277 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: just yet. But the over under right now, I think 1278 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: the total on season long touchdowns for Derrick Henry's ten 1279 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: and a half, and so they are expecting double digit 1280 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns and I don't know if I could argue with that. 1281 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 1: Probably not going to catch a lot of passes in 1282 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 1: this offense, it's just how it is. And Henry's never 1283 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: been a prolific pass catcher anyway. But what Lamar Jackson 1284 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: could open up for Derrick Henry with his own running ability, 1285 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 1: the touchdown potential in that offense, because unlike Jalen Hurts, 1286 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens really don't like running Lamar inside the five 1287 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: or ten yard line. It's pretty exciting. You just have 1288 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: to hope he continued to fend off Father time because 1289 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 1: he's on the wrong side of thirty now, and it's 1290 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 1: the age where we often start to see a slowdown 1291 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 1: for running backs. And here's one who's led the league 1292 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 1: in rushing attempts in for the last five years. So 1293 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 1: when the incomes, it could come quickly. But then again, 1294 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: Derek Henry might just be a different breed, Like this 1295 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: guy's not built like other running backs. 1296 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 2: If you told me right now he gets ten touchdowns, 1297 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,600 Speaker 2: you would have to say their offense is going to 1298 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 2: be pretty successful because Lamar's at minimum going to count 1299 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 2: for on another five days seven minimum, Right, let's just 1300 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 2: give him six. A couple other running backs will chime in. 1301 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, they'd have around twenty touchdowns on the ground, 1302 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: right if he's getting them ten, which he's had double 1303 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 2: digits for basically every year when he's healthy. But like 1304 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 2: you said, it's just the fit. I guess I just 1305 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,759 Speaker 2: envisioned more quicker, not scatbacks, but just different than his style. 1306 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Who's more old school Adrian Peterson. You got to keep 1307 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 2: handing the ball, hand the ball. You're cool with some 1308 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 2: two yard losses, and then all of a sudden he 1309 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,640 Speaker 2: busts thirty and then he gets rolling. That's Is that 1310 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 2: really how they've played with one individual running back? It 1311 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 2: doesn't quite seem that way. Maybe I'm wrong. Stats would 1312 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 2: not back that up, but it feels like they rotate 1313 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 2: a lot of guys in and out. Are they just 1314 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,840 Speaker 2: gonna hammer him maybe on an individual game, but over 1315 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 2: and over throughout the season. I don't know. 1316 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems it seems like you have to play 1317 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: it that way with him, especially with maybe Keaton Mitchell, 1318 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: who could be that speedy change of pace guy possibly 1319 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: not available if they decided to pop him after the 1320 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: late season knee injury last year. But yeah, you would 1321 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 1: think he's going to get a very robust workload, and 1322 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,719 Speaker 1: you're right, that has not been the Ravens way. 1323 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 2: He might not be fast anymore, but because his running 1324 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 2: back room doesn't really exist with anyone else and he's 1325 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 2: still a good goal line back the Cowboys and Zeke, Uh, 1326 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 2: you know, what are your what are your thoughts on 1327 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 2: that situation when it comes to Zeke? I mean, is 1328 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,440 Speaker 2: he a guy we talked about Derek Henry getting ten touchdowns. 1329 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 2: It's possible Zeke could have double ditch touchdowns this year 1330 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. Not that he's gonna have a lot 1331 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,600 Speaker 2: of yards, but he could just have a lot of 1332 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 2: goal line you know, inside the ten carries. 1333 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: No, I've actually found myself drafting him more than I 1334 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: ever have in any year previously. Well it used to 1335 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,680 Speaker 1: be hard to acquire it and now it's not. But 1336 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna play a role in that offense, and maybe 1337 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 1: a substantial one. And last year in New England, we 1338 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: saw him like really return value as a pass catcher, 1339 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: Like he showed that he's still a very good pass 1340 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 1: catcher and like it wouldn't surprise me if he got 1341 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 1: to play a lot on passing down Still, it used 1342 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: to be that that was Tony Pollard's gig and Zeke 1343 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: was the early down guy. But you know, I don't 1344 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: know if they have a better pass catching back on 1345 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: that roster than Zeke. So well, I think he could 1346 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: be sneaky valuable in fantasy this year. 1347 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 2: Cal get you out of here on this, because I 1348 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 2: was watching. Have you watched netflix receiver at all? 1349 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Hevan. I've been busy with the hard knocks offseason with 1350 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 1: the Giants' front office, so I got to catch up 1351 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: on the receiver. I'm still a little bit and now 1352 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm good at the training camp hard knocks to get through. 1353 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm falling behind here, John. 1354 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 2: There's a lot of hard knocks flying out there. That 1355 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 2: Giants hard Knocks was quite the eye opener, wasn't it. 1356 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:31,600 Speaker 2: But on the receiver it follows Justin, Jefferson and Davante's 1357 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 2: two of like the four or five guys, and they 1358 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 2: just popped into my head. Obviously, Justin is the highest 1359 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 2: paid wide receiver of all time, but his quarterback room 1360 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 2: is pretty questionable. Right He's got this rookie kind of 1361 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 2: project and Sam Darnold, who Kyle likes, but is he 1362 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 2: any good? We're going to find out early on this year. 1363 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,839 Speaker 2: And then Davante with his quarterback, he left Aaron Rodgers 1364 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 2: and he's learned a valuable lesson. It's not quite the same, 1365 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 2: and he's admitted as much. When it comes to those 1366 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 2: two guys, clearly, if you put them with a Josh 1367 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Allen or Mahomes, you would be like, these guys are 1368 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,839 Speaker 2: going to catch one hundred balls of their eyes closed. 1369 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 2: But in their two scenarios probably like Justin Jefferson more 1370 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 2: just his coach is also the play caller. But I 1371 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean they both make me a little 1372 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,839 Speaker 2: nervous going through transitional years at that position. 1373 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Right, That's exactly it, John like in any year if 1374 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings had a proven, entrenched quarterback, Justin Jefferson is 1375 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: like in the one oh one conversation, first pick overall. 1376 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 1: But now with this transitional period at quarterback the Vikings 1377 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: are going through, he is typically going either fourth or 1378 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: fifth among wide receivers behind Ceedee Lamb to Rekill, Jamar 1379 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 1: Chase and sometimes Amanro Saint Brown. Like I think it's 1380 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 1: about a fifty to fifty as to whether you'll see 1381 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Jefferson or Amen ra go first in a fantasy draft. 1382 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: But then again, Jefferson is so good, like he might 1383 01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:00,719 Speaker 1: be quarterback proof. I think, like last year when Mullins 1384 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 1: was in there, like Mullins was just such a careless, 1385 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: aggressive thrower of the ball downfield. Who I mean, if 1386 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: you let that guy start for a full season, he 1387 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,600 Speaker 1: might throw sixty interceptions, but you liked him if you 1388 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 1: were a Justin Jefferson investor because you knew he was 1389 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 1: going to take shots downfield. I think that's what you're 1390 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 1: hoping for to some extent that like JJ McCarthy isn't 1391 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 1: so self conscious about turnovers that he's afraid to air 1392 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: it out and let Jefferson make plays on the ball. 1393 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 1: So hopefully Jefferson wins his confidence and you know, plantson 1394 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: in his head. Hey might look like I'm not open, 1395 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: throw me the ball. I'll come down with it. 1396 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: Oh one season, Sorry, continue, no, keep going, No. 1397 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 1: I was just going to say DeVante. So yeah, I 1398 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 1: mean he's more like a mid second round pick, I think. 1399 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 1: But even with O'Connell is his primary quarterback last year, 1400 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: he did manage to top one hundred receptions and you know, 1401 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,759 Speaker 1: get about eleven hundred yards. So I just can't fade 1402 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, I watched him in Green Bay 1403 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 1: for too long John for me to completely dismiss him 1404 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,639 Speaker 1: because of the quarterback situation. 1405 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,799 Speaker 2: I was gonna say the year Jimmy Garoppolo tours ACL 1406 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers did start Nick Mullens a lot 1407 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,719 Speaker 2: and they ended up with a number two overall pick. 1408 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 2: So it's it's it's not a not an ideal situation 1409 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 2: with Nick Mullens. You got to roll him out each week. 1410 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 2: Patrick Fitzmorris obviously on Fantasy Pros, which is one of 1411 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 2: the biggest podcasts in all the Internet and sports any 1412 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 2: anywhere else, anyone listening can find you. 1413 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they are on Twitter, they can find me 1414 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 1: there at bits Underscore FF and Yeah, just be sure 1415 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 1: to check out Fantasypros dot com if you are preparing 1416 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 1: for your fantasy draft, because we've got you covered on 1417 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 1: that side. 1418 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 2: Do you have all like a heart hot take on 1419 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 2: from a fantasy perspective that you're just gonna die on 1420 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 2: this hill going into the season. It's a little out 1421 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: of left field that a lot of people are pushing 1422 01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 2: back in your world. 1423 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I really like I'm way above consensus on Brian Robinson 1424 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: at running back for the Washington Commanders, who even I 1425 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 1: thought was just a guy for a while. But I 1426 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: think he's better than I initially gave him his dube for. 1427 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: And I do think Jayden Daniels is really going to 1428 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 1: open things up, and I'm not too worried about Austin 1429 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 1: Eckler challenging him that much for early down carries and snaps. 1430 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Patrick is Morse, thanks a lot, man, and have a 1431 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 2: great season. 1432 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 1: Thanks John, you too. The volume