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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two on this Thursday, Dan and the

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Speaker 1: Dan Ns Dan Patrick's show coming up. Nick Wright are

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Speaker 1: a good buddy from Fox Sports. First things first, he

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Speaker 1: has his top fifty NBA players for the last fifty

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Speaker 1: years and Michael Jordan is number three on that list.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't revealed who's one and two, but I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: we could do the math that it's Kareem Abdul Jabbar

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Speaker 1: and Lebron James, maybe not in that order. Yes, point

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Speaker 1: is he going to semantics this by saying the greatest

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Speaker 1: basketball player of the past year, not NBA player? Is

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Speaker 1: it basketball player or NBA player? So stop NBA players.

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Speaker 1: So you're not including their college career. Oh that's interesting then,

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Speaker 1: because I could see you Kareem's college career probably better

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Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan's. Correct. Yeah, Kareem if I go high school,

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Speaker 1: college and the NBA, right, I thought maybe that's what

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Speaker 1: he was going. Nobody touches that. By the way, one

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Speaker 1: of my idols growing up, Pete Maravich, posthumously had a

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Speaker 1: statue unveiled outside the arena at LSU, and it's a

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Speaker 1: good looking statue. Here's the problem I have with it now.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it looks gorgeous, and the statue is

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Speaker 1: him throwing a pass behind his back, has the floppy

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Speaker 1: socks there, He's got his Chuck Taylor's the low cut

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Speaker 1: Chuck Taylor's on Pete didn't have long hair in college.

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Speaker 1: It's a little too long considering he had short hair

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Speaker 1: his dad was his coach at LSU. I'm nitpicking here.

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Speaker 1: It looks gorgeous, but it looks more NBA like Pete

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Speaker 1: Merovitch than college because he had, you know, shorter haircut

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Speaker 1: when he played for his father had the long hair

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Speaker 1: once he got into the NBA. But gorgeous statue. I'm nitpicking,

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Speaker 1: but then, well that's what I do. Yeah, see the

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Speaker 1: long hair looks better. Though i'm the statue. I do

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Speaker 1: like the look with Pete. Yeah. Now, I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to have short hair. I had long hair, and part

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Speaker 1: of it was because Pete Merevich had long hair. You

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Speaker 1: just looked a hell of a lot better with long

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Speaker 1: hair than I did. Yes, I did a deep dive

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Speaker 1: on Pete Merevitch's hair at LSU. It was quite short

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Speaker 1: as a freshman, but when I had some pictures as

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Speaker 1: a senior. It's getting kind of floppy, okay, and a

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Speaker 1: little I'm kempt, no offense, so I think they're they're

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Speaker 1: in the wheelhouse. Oh. I'm glad that they honored him.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised it took this long. I'm not big on statues.

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Speaker 1: It just I'm it feels dangerous when you're going, we

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Speaker 1: got a statue, and then something happens, then we go,

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Speaker 1: we gotta take down the statue. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: you can commemorate somebody, put their jersey in the rafter.

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Speaker 1: That's good. You want to name the arena or the

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Speaker 1: floor after him, fine with that. Statues get tricky. I

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Speaker 1: mean Michael Jordan great statue outside the old Chicago Stadium there, Yes, yes, time.

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Speaker 1: If you were a hundred with a statue, would you

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Speaker 1: want that posthumously or to be would enjoy it, you

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Speaker 1: know for the unveiling, But it is a little creepy

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Speaker 1: that you're still alive in there's a statue of you. Um,

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Speaker 1: I would like it humously, not posthumously. I think I'd

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Speaker 1: want to see it. Think I right. There's something about

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Speaker 1: a statue though, it's like very like you remember someone

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Speaker 1: that passed for me. Well, I wondered if ESPN is

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Speaker 1: going to honor you know, let's say, Chris Burman, Stuart Scott,

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Speaker 1: Bob league. And I've said this before to management there,

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Speaker 1: so this is nothing new. They should have named buildings

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Speaker 1: after some of the founding fathers, you know, they did

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Speaker 1: it at Nike. Now, granted it's tricky, but if you

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Speaker 1: have the Stewart Scott building, you have Chris Burman building,

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Speaker 1: you have Tommy's now Tom and Stuart obviously no longer

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Speaker 1: with us. But I just thought that, you know, name

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Speaker 1: the newsroom Bob Lee newsroom. I don't know, just these

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Speaker 1: are the founding fathers there, certainly with Bob and Tom

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Speaker 1: and Chris, and I thought maybe they do something like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you do sort of a walk of fame there,

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Speaker 1: you know, like you have in Hollywood. Maybe you have

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Speaker 1: something that's you know, in the sidewalk they're leading into ESPN.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they just throw it out there, and

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Speaker 1: I am not, you know, bringing this up to have

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Speaker 1: my name put there or a statue there at all. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly that's what I wanted. ESPN couldn't care less, but

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Speaker 1: honoring those absolutely fine with that. Yeah, see what about

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Speaker 1: on the Milford Green, Milford, Connecticut, where we do the show.

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Speaker 1: What if you had a statue there? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no statue. If you're going to have a statue in

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Speaker 1: one place, would it be Bristol or Milford? Um, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want it to ESPN, Thank god. I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with that King's Island where I grew up, my hometown,

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Speaker 1: the pleasure in how about that? Yeah, but I only

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Speaker 1: went there when I was young. I didn't I didn't

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Speaker 1: with my dad. Sit there at the bar, have my

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Speaker 1: fan to Orange. I would love to have a statue

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Speaker 1: at the Lagota's Saloon in South Amboy Mack. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: put in some time in that place. Yeah, I'm already

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Speaker 1: looking for a statue in East Harford, Connecticut. Look right

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Speaker 1: on the town Green. It's just me afraid to shoot

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Speaker 1: a basketball. Pass the ball, Marvin. First thing you're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at, though, is oh, never mind the hands. Okay,

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Speaker 1: never mind this. The guy the sculpture will do the

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Speaker 1: hands last because he just wants to whip through it

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Speaker 1: at the ends, like, oh the hands out? You walked

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Speaker 1: this out the data, Well, you won't have to use

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Speaker 1: that much bronze for that. You know, you're just like, wow,

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Speaker 1: we got a little left over here, like a little

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Speaker 1: hands there, Yes, Todd, what would a Milford statue look like?

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Speaker 1: Would have your headphones on on, like a beer in

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Speaker 1: one hand and a wing and the other hand. How

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Speaker 1: would you ask them to create? You? You just ask

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Speaker 1: an answer and then you ask you. Well, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that would be one suggesting on my part, but I'm

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Speaker 1: interested to know if you could. We're not doing any statue,

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Speaker 1: but what would it look like? Now? I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't even care. I don't want a statue, would even

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Speaker 1: think about it? Didn't you just win? Like some Milford sportscast?

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Speaker 1: I did? I was the top broadcaster in Milford. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: eat that second best broadcaster in Milford. My wife told me,

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Speaker 1: she goes, oh, hey, by the way, you you were

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Speaker 1: named the best broadcaster in Milford, Connecticut. Let's go. And

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Speaker 1: I went, oh, I feel bad for whoever finished in

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Speaker 1: second place, because I mean I got a little bit

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Speaker 1: whoever is like, did I win? Um? No, it's not

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Speaker 1: a very big pond for them to be swimming in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that seems like something you could win twenty or thirty

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Speaker 1: years in a row in Milford. It's like best billionaire

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Speaker 1: in Omaha, Nebraska. Yeah, there's only one. There is, Warren Buffett. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but there is a Milford person that came in second

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Speaker 1: that's very upset and he put in something about we're

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Speaker 1: kind of on the Devon borders. So maybe you're the

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Speaker 1: Devon Sportscaster's Devon it's Devon Von. Yeah, it would have

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Speaker 1: been a good joke, Um Davon. Yeah, Devon White. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I know you're trying to solvage it for me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate. Yes, point, there's some good statues out there.

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Speaker 1: The Harry Carey statue outside Wrigley is pretty good. People

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Speaker 1: like to throw hats on it and put beers on

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Speaker 1: it and things like that, so it's pretty cool. University

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Speaker 1: of Oklahoma has this walkway area outside the stadium where

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Speaker 1: all the Heisman winners are and the statues are big

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Speaker 1: and they're really good looking. I've been there once and

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Speaker 1: not since they put the Baker Mayfield statue, but that

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma did it right. Yeah, yeah, I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: interested in statue. But but if ESPN ever did that.

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Speaker 1: It would be great if they named buildings after you know,

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Speaker 1: Stewart and Chris and Bob and if you name the

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Speaker 1: newsroom after Bobly, you know, get Tommy's in there. Just

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Speaker 1: remember these these are the guys that were there every

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Speaker 1: single day. You know, when you think back with Chris

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Speaker 1: Berman and Bobly and Tommy's they were doing it when

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Speaker 1: it wasn't cool. Nobody knew they were. They were working

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Speaker 1: out of trailers back then. But you know, Bob stayed

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Speaker 1: through everything, and Chris is still there contributing. You know,

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Speaker 1: Tommy lost his life, what Stuart meant to the place.

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Speaker 1: It'd be great, love it. I'd go back if they

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Speaker 1: were honoring those people. But trust me, I couldn't care

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Speaker 1: less about a statue of me. What what if they

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Speaker 1: play statue of the day, Statue of the day, and

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Speaker 1: that's how they bring it, and they unveil it with

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Speaker 1: statue of the day to acknowledge all your post accomplishments

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Speaker 1: outside of the four letters. I thought there was something there,

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Statue of the days. I thought there was

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Speaker 1: something there's not and I apologize. I thought that you would.

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Speaker 1: That's the first time you've ever apologhed, apologizing like fifteen

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Speaker 1: times a day for the things I say. But comedians

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Speaker 1: of the medias don't apologize. If Chris Rocktson would have

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Speaker 1: said that, we'd all be laughing nod out a statue

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Speaker 1: to day statue today and I would have gone, whatever

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Speaker 1: that girls clever of the day. But that's funny. Goes

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Speaker 1: to the newsletters. Yeah, I'm gonna start putting everything you

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Speaker 1: do in the idea. Yes, set, So now we've just

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Speaker 1: got one from Jeremy Noble here on the Twitter. Yes.

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Speaker 1: This raises the question what building a room would ESPN

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Speaker 1: name after? Dan and his options are the bathroom, the

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Speaker 1: dressing room, the janitorial closet, and the or the parking

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Speaker 1: garage slash parking lot. Bathroom is out because I know

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Speaker 1: who that's getting named after. I would hope, yeah, uh

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Speaker 1: somebody else. I uh. You know, there's a basketball court outside,

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Speaker 1: so maybe you could do that out there, you can

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Speaker 1: name the basketball court. I don't want any remembrance there.

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Speaker 1: I had enough mission accoplish because we walked in a

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Speaker 1: couple years ago. There weren't a lot of pictures on

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Speaker 1: that big wall. Well no they did. They did have

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Speaker 1: the catchphrase wall Yes, and they were quick to point out, hey,

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Speaker 1: look in Fuego, still selling in Fuego T shirts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I went, uh great, uh. And then I you know,

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Speaker 1: I realized when I left that ESPN owned everything, and

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Speaker 1: I said intellectual property, if you want to call it intellectual,

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Speaker 1: but it was property there. And they're like, um, we

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Speaker 1: own that. Wait, you own in Fuego. Yes, you've said

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Speaker 1: it here. Sorry a good times, great oldies, Thank you, Marv,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Milford's Best eat it second place? Oh, some

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Speaker 1: kid at Jonathan Law High School. Yeah, that's what you get,

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Speaker 1: some local guys. Sorry, was it sports broadcaster or just broadcasting?

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Speaker 1: Might have been broadcast? You crossed over? Yeah, you've crossed over.

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Speaker 1: There were four people in that category. There's only one

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Speaker 1: in the sports category. Now we're going to the dinner, right,

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Speaker 1: we're all, oh yeah, big big ceremony, firing up the

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Speaker 1: jet again there. Yeah, we may get everybody, and we

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Speaker 1: got a fly. No, no, it's local, no's local. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get dressed up, bring in our group there and uh,

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Speaker 1: I think they already gave out the award. And my

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Speaker 1: wife goes, are you gonna go? Um, you know, receive it?

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Speaker 1: I go no accepting on behalf and Dan Patrick is

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Speaker 1: Tyler the creator, Tyler, Tyler the operator and his dog Winnie. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and Dan's dog Winnie. But with Tyler yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: My wife said, do you want me to accept it

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Speaker 1: on your behalf? And I said, if you can, Hu,

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Speaker 1: that'd be nice, that'd be nice. Uh. PJ in Atlanta, Hi, PJ? Hey,

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Speaker 1: uh five eleven? Uh uh I'm fat buck eighty one? Anybody?

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Speaker 1: So here's so, here's the deal. So when set was

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Speaker 1: talking about cheese steaks, cheese steaks are like the Adrian

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Speaker 1: Danley Markerguire trade of sandwiches. Nobody cares. So here's my

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Speaker 1: Kareem's career that aren't fair to him, but they stand

419
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Speaker 1: out because that's what people remember all time. Leading score

420
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: great Skyhook, unstoppable, were the goggles and then that Magic

421
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: thing in nineteen eighty And I don't I'm not trying

422
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: to be pedantic here. This game six and they won

423
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: him six it was but end listen, Magic win forty two,

424
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: fifteen and seven. It's one of the greatest games ever.

425
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: He was a rookie. It's why Magic's one of the

426
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: greatest players ever. Kaream not winning that finals MVP is

427
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: a crime. Cream efforts thirty six points a game in

428
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: that series, thirty six points a game, annihilating the Sixers,

429
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: And if they had lost that game six, Cream would

430
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: have been back for Game seven. They would have won.

431
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: Like I there are in my opinion, nineteen seventy four,

432
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: when they got to the finals and lost, it was

433
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: outrageous that he didn't win finals MVP and that loss.

434
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: But and at that point in time, they did give it.

435
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, they had just given it Jerry Weston a

436
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: loss five years prior, so it wouldn't have been crazy

437
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: to give it to Kareem. There, I just I do

438
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: now here is and I want your take on this sincerely.

439
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: The one argument against Kareem's domination in the seventies is

440
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: how much do you give anyone credit when a good

441
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: portion of the best players were in a different league.

442
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: That's a fair argument, like that that the ABA was

443
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: a legitimate rival league had a lot of great players,

444
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: and that, to me is a fair counterpoint. I still

445
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: think Kareem would have kicked everybody's ass even if they

446
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: were all collected. But that like when you were watching

447
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: in the seventies, and I'm not trying to be a

448
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: smart a look here, like, did you feel like the

449
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: best team in the NBA was the best team in basketball?

450
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Or some years did you feel like the best team

451
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: in the ABA was the best team in basketball? Having

452
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: seen the Kentucky Colonel's play in person against Doctor Jam,

453
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: you knew that there was a lot of talent there

454
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: and Therefore you couldn't discount it. You couldn't say, well,

455
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: the NBA has the best players. The ABA had a

456
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: lot of talent, may not have had one defining team.

457
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: Spirits of Saint Louis had a lot of talent, but

458
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: they weren't a great team. Uh. You know, Utah Stars

459
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: had a really good team. So you did have that,

460
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't factor that in. I just always thought

461
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: that Kareem was the best player. I didn't go and

462
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: a lot of your guys in the ABA, You're good

463
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: players were forwards, you know, if it was George McInnis

464
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: or doctor Jay, so you weren't. It wasn't like he

465
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: was missing out on playing against Zeem o'beity and you know,

466
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: a big man. He was going against big men because

467
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: you did have Nate Thurman, Will was a defensive guy,

468
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: then Walt Bellamy, like there were there were good big men,

469
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: Bob Lanier. There were good big men back then that

470
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: he was facing. So I didn't factor that in as

471
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: much as you probably did. No. I just I think

472
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: that Kareem's lack of self promotion hurts, and I think

473
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: Kareem being listen, let's be honest here. The it is

474
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: somewhat controversial to be an outspoken black activist in twenty

475
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: twenty two, let alone outspoken black activists turned Muslim in

476
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: the early nineteen seventies. I think that colored no pun

477
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: intended some of the coverage of him. He also, from

478
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: what I understand, was not the easiest guy to deal

479
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: with in the media. I think that. And so then

480
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: Magic comes around and is this million dollars smile and effervescent,

481
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: and I think it was just easy to transfer a

482
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: lot of Magic. Was not clearly the best player on

483
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: that Lakers team until it, hands down by nineteen eighty six.

484
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Some would argue by nineteen eighty four, but it was

485
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: at one point in time they had the best player

486
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: in basketball Kareem, and like the fourth best player in

487
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: basketball Magic, which is why they were so dynamic. And

488
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: I just think I think Kaream's story has never been

489
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: fairly told. That's it. He's Nick Wright, first Thing's first

490
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: co host on Fox Sports one. So Jordan's three Kareem

491
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: and Lebron or Lebron Kareem when you reveal that, um,

492
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: you got Magic, you got Tim Duncan, Kobe Larry Bird,

493
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Hakim Shock, and Steph Curry rounding out your top ten.

494
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: I know you love doctor Jay, He's eleven, Moses Malone,

495
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: k D Greek Freak, Isaiah Thomas, durk Nevitski, Carl Malone,

496
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, and then uh Dwayne Wayne. Yeah, Oh, I

497
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: thought you're gonna go one further, go one further, so

498
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: you roast Luca's number twenty Luca Luca dun Chick. Look, okay,

499
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: can I explain it? Can you list his accomplishments? Yeah?

500
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Second leading all time scoring the NBA Playoffs points per game,

501
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: one of only two guys along with Michael Jordan to

502
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: uh average more than thirty points per game in his

503
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: NBA playoff career. Three first teams. How many games he played?

504
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: How many games? Oh? Well, I don't have that off

505
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: the top of my head, Dan, but I do know

506
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: that the series he has played where he's averaged thirty two,

507
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: nine and eight in his playoff career. UM. Two of

508
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: those series were against Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and

509
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: the two best wing defenders mess who I'm told. Then

510
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: next series he played in was against the three time

511
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: defense player the ar Rudy Gobert. The next series he

512
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: played in was against the sixty four wind Phoenix Suns,

513
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: and then next series he played in was against the

514
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. Round told have the greatest defender ever,

515
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: Draymond Green. If you don't believe me, ask him. So

516
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: he's done all that. He has three time first Team

517
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: All NBA. For the record, Steph Curry only has four.

518
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: He didn't bloss shit, Steph Curry. Now Steff Curry also

519
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: has four rings. I understand that. However, there is President Daniel.

520
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I've never called you Daniel. That's Reggie Miller's bit. Uh.

521
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: And Reggie Miller, by the way, didn't make the list.

522
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: Don't tell him if it was seventy five people. Maybe. Um. However, listen,

523
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: Reggie's the greatest eighteen three and three guy in league. Histriel,

524
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: you have a problem that he's given too much credit

525
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: for what he did against the Knicks, right, yeah, Listen,

526
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: the guy hit the guy hit a three pointer with

527
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: a sprained ankle against the balls, and he he and

528
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: he absolutely annihilated Spike Lee in those commercials, Oh my god,

529
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the nineties basketball, it was so great. So okay, But

530
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: on the Luca thing in the nineties, when the original

531
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: NBA fifty person list came out. Who was the controversial

532
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: inclusion after four years, Shaquille O'Neill. And you know why

533
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: they put him on there because they were like, this

534
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: list is gonna look dumb in five years time if

535
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: he's not on there. So I had to put Luke

536
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: on there. Now that they didn't rank, there's one through fifty,

537
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: I had to rank mine. I'm oh, wait, is this

538
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna be fifty years from now that we're looking back

539
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: on this? Is that what you're saying that this is

540
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: once every fifty years that you're doing this? Oh well,

541
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, are you asking will this become cannon?

542
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: Will this become you know, an archivable thing? Fritzie, would

543
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: you book Nick Wright in fifty years from now? Got it?

544
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: So we can talk about now he can't do nine twenty?

545
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Come out? I know that was a good line, fritz Yeah. Well,

546
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: Fritzie would always go, hey, how about Nick Wright for

547
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: nine twenty? I said he on TV till nine thirty,

548
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: And he would be very kind because he said, for

549
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: the seventeenth time, yeah, I can't do it. Before I

550
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: would have the Greek freak if I'm using your logic

551
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: with Luca, the Greek freak, to me, would be higher.

552
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: So when it's all said and done, he'll have a

553
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: greater career than Kimalize you On, who's one of my

554
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: favorite people ever. He'll have a better career than Larry Bird.

555
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: He'll have a better career not I don't think Tim duncan.

556
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: So I do you think he'll be better than Tim?

557
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: But I think he's a bet he would be a

558
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: better player. I don't know if you think I think

559
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Jannis is. I think that if Chris Middleton didn't get hurt.

560
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: The conversation we're having right now is, wait, could Yannis

561
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: enter the Jordan Lebron Kareem pantheon? Like, why couldn't he?

562
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: He's got the MVPs, he would have two titles. He's

563
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: like the Evolution. So I think I think Jannis is

564
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna finish his career as one of the six greatest

565
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: players ever. Okay, I do believe that. I think he's

566
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna win a bunch more titles. I think his disposition

567
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: is perfect. I think, like Lebron in his prime, he

568
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: seems uninjurable. I watched his Nigo sideways. He missed a week.

569
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I thought he I thought he had. I thought he

570
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: tore every ligament. He missed one week and then average

571
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: thirty five game in the finals. He's brilliant on the

572
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: defensive end. So I think Jannis and I think yeah.

573
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Luca will probably stay at twenty.

574
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be Yeah, I don't know

575
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: if he's gonna win championships. I think statistically he will be. Uh.

576
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's already won championships. Dan, are you not

577
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: familiar with Real Madrid A You're not familiar with his

578
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: work in your ear league? Are you not familiar with

579
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: him taking Slovenia to the metal round of the Olympics? Incredible?

580
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: Are you not familiar? I mean, listen, the guy can

581
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: only do what he can do. He's done that while

582
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: he's fat. I think, if I want to get in shape, Navitch,

583
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: he's up there. He's high. Yeah, six all time leading score. Yeah,

584
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: you know you're not a dirt guy. Um. I love

585
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: Dirk Um, but you like Barkley Moore? Well, well, I

586
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: think Barkley is a better player, but better guest on

587
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: the show, better guest on you know, Dirk class. His

588
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: last appearance was really good. You know, he talked about

589
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: his rookie year when they made fun of him and

590
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: called him a lot of names, and who else called

591
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: when there was a story with Dirk when he when

592
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: he joined us that had come out somebody had said

593
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: something about him. Do you remember that? I remember there

594
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: was another hook to have him on. But I love dirt.

595
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: You know, that's the when you think of great do

596
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: you where do you come down on it? And I

597
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: don't know if we're out of time, out of time,

598
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: but just tell me quickly, where do you come down

599
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: on Barkley versus Carl? Not loses obviously, I gotta give

600
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: Carl credit for what he did, how he did it,

601
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: for the length of time that he did it. Um

602
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, Charles and Philadelphia and then winning out of

603
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: Philadelphia got to Phoenix. They should have won a title

604
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: against Jordan. There's part of me that looks at Charles

605
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: the way I do Shack that he could have been even,

606
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, so much greater, even though it's not fair

607
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: to say that about Charles had six four or six

608
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: five power forward, but I do look at him with

609
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: that talent, and I think he could have been so

610
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: much better. And I look at Shack the same way.

611
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Jack could have been the greatest player. Yes he could

612
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: have been. Yes, he could have been the greatest player ever.

613
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: And it's a testament to him that he didn't get

614
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: everything out of it. He's still this great. On the

615
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: other hand, your buddy Reggie Miller got the most out

616
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: of his very limited athletic ability about most having watched see,

617
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: I watched all of these guys, tiny Archibald, who else?

618
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: What do you think of my mind creep inclusion? That

619
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: was controversial? Well, I'm sure Jerry West would like it. Yeah,

620
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: that's true. Oh I have so oh gosh, can I

621
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Speaker 1: can I say one more thing where I go? All right, listen,

622
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm all for new media. I'm not a gatekeeper. All

623
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: media is welcome. Yeah, but somebody needs to tell new

624
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: media that, you know, what is the oldest form of

625
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: media saying as it happened, the era I played in

626
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: is the best and everyone else sucks, like Draymond coming

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Speaker 1: all these guys being like the previous eras were garbage.

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Speaker 1: It is the same thing as the guys who are

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Speaker 1: era is soft, my era was the best, Like that's

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Speaker 1: not breaking ground. By anyone doing it, and that Jared.

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Speaker 1: There's only one person alive who's allowed to talk trash

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Speaker 1: to Jerry West, Bill Russell because he kept kicking his

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Speaker 1: ass everybody else and he's recognized. This guy hit a

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Speaker 1: sixty footer to force five to force overtime in a

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Speaker 1: finals game and average thirty points a game and his

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Speaker 1: nine finals appearances. That guy's awesome that he doesn't make

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Speaker 1: your list. It's the last fifty years, Dan, So it

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Speaker 1: was fifty best of the last fifty. Wilt's not on

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Speaker 1: their Russell's not on their west Is and on their

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Speaker 1: oscars not on there. It's the last it's Kareem's rookie

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Speaker 1: year to now. Okay, but when did West stop playing

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Speaker 1: well in the last fifty years? But he didn't accomplish

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Speaker 1: Oh so you're okay, you're okay. The oldest guy on

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Speaker 1: the list is Rick Berry. The youngest guy who was

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Speaker 1: too old for the list is Willis Ree. You got macadoo.

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Speaker 1: I love McAdoo. Uh, not one of the fifty greatest players.

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Speaker 1: He got Walton in there. Nobody's a bigger Walton fan.

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Speaker 1: Bill's not a top fifty player of all time. He

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Speaker 1: didn't have long gevity. He had a three year window

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Speaker 1: where he was awesome and I'm talking just NBA and

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Speaker 1: I love Bill. Maybe the would have been the greatest

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Speaker 1: big man of all time the way he played. But

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. But you know we can argue about

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Speaker 1: Bill Walton. Don't have Yokich on there either. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: know you'll never have Yokis on there. Not never I

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Speaker 1: made the list and then he won his second MVP.

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Speaker 1: What do you want me to do? I didn't anticipate

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Speaker 1: that happening. Find the ointment. See all right, buddy, take care.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. A phone call is coming up top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, and we'll check in with the Fighting

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Speaker 1: Irish and Notre Dame and their head coach, Marcus Freeman.

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Speaker 1: And we'll check in with the live tour in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: We got some news attached to that. Have that for

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Speaker 1: you coming up. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday

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Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the

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Speaker 1: Peacock app. Hey what's up, everybody, It's me three time

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Speaker 1: pro bowler Le Barrington and I couldn't be more excited

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Speaker 1: to announce a new podcast called up on Game. What

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Speaker 1: is up on Game? You asked, along with my fellow

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Speaker 1: pro bowler t J. Hushman, Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Plexico Burist. You can only name a show

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Speaker 1: with that type of talent on it. Up on Game.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded

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Speaker 1: with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game Whipped me,

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Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, t J. Hutchman's out of and Plexico Birds

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast from. Update the poor results Seaton. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what we went with. We got a couple

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Speaker 1: of them going dreed Okay, all right, we have If

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Speaker 1: the Warriors could do only one, they should give Draymond

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Speaker 1: a MAX extension or move on. Eighty seven percent of

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Speaker 1: the audience they move on. Yeah, I would two. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you said three years for ninety million, I guess

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Speaker 1: that might be the going rate for Draymond Green, I'd

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Speaker 1: consider that. But man, I don't want to give him

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Speaker 1: a MAX. I don't want him round for five years.

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Speaker 1: It's like a three year window. Steph's gonna be thirty

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Speaker 1: five this upcoming season, Like at some point does Steph

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Speaker 1: become del Curry? And that's how long we've been doing this. Yes,

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Speaker 1: isn't that crazy that we started when he was coming

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Speaker 1: into the league. Yeah, we're in the attic. Yes, crazy, crazy,

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Speaker 1: crazy Tim and Vegas. Hey, Tim, what's on your mind today? Hi?

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Speaker 1: Hi Dan, time caller, long Hi Dan, first time caller,

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Speaker 1: longtime listener, five ten and a senior two O five?

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, I just talking about Kareem at what

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Speaker 1: a great player. People forget that in nineteen sixty six,

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Speaker 1: the NCUBLEA banned the dunk shot because no one could

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Speaker 1: stop lou Al Sinder and thus, being what a great

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Speaker 1: player he is, he created the skyhook. I'll sit back

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Speaker 1: and listen. All right, thank you, Tim. Also, the freshman

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Speaker 1: team at UCLA, since he wasn't eligible to play on

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Speaker 1: the varsity, beat the defending national champs that happened to

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Speaker 1: be the UCLA Bruins. So that was the varsity team

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Speaker 1: and Karee Tea was there. I think he had Mike Warren,

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Speaker 1: Lucius Allen, you might have had Lynn Shackleford on that team,

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Speaker 1: great left handed shooter. They were so good that they

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Speaker 1: beat the varsity that had just won the national championship.

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Speaker 1: Mo and Arizona's back him. What's on your mind? Good morning, Dan, Danny.

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Speaker 1: But hey, I get um this all uh nick rights

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Speaker 1: thing about the top ten. But I got a question

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Speaker 1: for you guys. Okay, who is your top three most

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Speaker 1: speared players? Not the best players. Let's take Kobe and Jordan,

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Speaker 1: not the equation into the game. Top three guys that

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Speaker 1: you don't want the ball. Wait, so I can't take

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Speaker 1: Jordan or Kobe? No, No, I can't take would you

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Speaker 1: taking them out the equation because it's not there? Because

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Speaker 1: everybody's going to pick them top to Okay, and you

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Speaker 1: have whom I have. There's no particular order, but I

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Speaker 1: have Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, and big shot Bob Huh,

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Speaker 1: thank you mum. I put Larry Bird in there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I can't have Jordan and Kobe, I'll take Larry

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Speaker 1: to start with. Yeah, see where does Shack go in there? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Shack would be Shack would scare me? I mean, out

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Speaker 1: of all of those guys, that's definitely somebody you gotta yes,

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Speaker 1: if you said all right. One game, this guy um Bird,

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Speaker 1: and I can't take Kobe or Mike, then I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take Bird and Shack definitely. I mean i'd I'd

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Speaker 1: be okay no matter who you took. I'd be okay

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah. See, I keep going to big Man too.

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Speaker 1: But Patrick Ewing has a place there too. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: love Patrick, But um so one game and who would

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Speaker 1: I be afraid of? Huh Wait, Larry Bird. I know

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Speaker 1: I already said. I know, I said Larry Bird, and

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Speaker 1: I said Shack. Charles is way too low on this

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Speaker 1: lest Charles is underrated. He averaged over twenty five five

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Speaker 1: times he led league rebounds. He did more with less.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The NSA banned the dunk before the

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Speaker 1: sixty seven sixty eighth season. Amongst the reasons publicly given

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Speaker 1: were it's not a skillful shot and it's dangerous to

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Speaker 1: players around the basket. They used examples that players were

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Speaker 1: hurt I guess during dunks, and the media called at

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Speaker 1: the lew elst Indo rule and the fact that coach

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Speaker 1: Wooden helped. And I don't know if Kareem had this

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Speaker 1: in high school, I don't remember. I remember seeing him

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Speaker 1: at Power Memorial footage. I never saw him in person,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if he had I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he developed that when he got to use CLA.

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Speaker 1: He should actually check on that. Final hour is going

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Speaker 1: to be busy. We'll check in with the live tour.

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Speaker 1: It gets underway tomorrow. Charles Barkley said he was going

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Speaker 1: to make up his mind by tonight if he was

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Speaker 1: going to join the live tour. Bubba Watson's going to

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Speaker 1: join it, and I will talk to the Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: head coach Marcus Freeman coming up