1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Our two so much to discuss. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: White House is set to brief here shortly on well 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: a whole range of things, but they're going to talk 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: to us about the murder in Charlotte on the light 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: rail system that occurred, the video which has gotten so 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: many people all across the country honestly just outrage at 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: the failures of the system and the decision. I should say, 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure we could call it a failure 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: of the system, Clay, because I think increasingly Democrats view 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: this as the cost of the system that they want 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: to have, so this is more of a in their mind. 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: In their view, this is a collateral damage issue. This 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: is for us to have a more equitable system, we 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: have to have one that continues to allow this to happen. 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: And this is just going to be the way that 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: it is. A lot of people just reject this, and 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: they should reject this. But one thing I have to 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: point out is there are voices within the Democrat Party, 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: very loud ones still, that are trying to take us 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: and in this case, take New York City in the 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: wrong direction entirely. For this here is the likely next 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: mayor of New York. I know I say that in 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: a lot of New Yorkers listening cringe. The likely next 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: mayor of New York Zoran Mom, Donnie, this is cut eight. 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: He wants to well, you can hear it from him. 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: Play it. 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: The jail population of rikers has increased since Eric Adams 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: has come into office by more than a thousand additional 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: incarcerated New Yorkers. And what is quite staggering to me 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: is that we know that we can reduce that jail 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: population to less than four thousand, and Vital City had 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: an article about a number of different proposals that could 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: reduce it to thirty seven hundred and some of this 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: also just has to look at the average stay on 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: rikers in the nineties was fifty days. Now it's more 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: than one hundred. There are more than fifteen hundred people 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: on rikers who have been held there for more than 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: a year. So I do think many of the reforms 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: that have to be made are also reforms around the 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: court system. 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Clay the idea that there should be fewer incarcerations in 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: New York City, you know, he should have to if 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: anyone was going to be able to force him on 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: this issue. What are people incarcerated for that you think 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: they should just be roaming the streets and shouldn't have 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: to and shouldn't be taken out of the general population 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: for a period of comic What are these crimes and 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: also how many times have those crimes been committed? They 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: should start to have to show show me who's in 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Rikers who really doesn't belong in Rikers. That's what I 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: want to know, because to speak about this in generalities 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: is to get away with just sounding like you're someone 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: who's merciful or somebody wants to give people second chances. 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Most of the people who are in rankers have been 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: given fifteen chances. Yeah, And I again this comes back 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: to what are your priorities. 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 4: Do you want to give people who are good, honest, 59 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: hardworking people protection and opportunity in the country to have 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: the absolute apex level of success or do you want 61 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: to give people who are career criminals and opportunity to 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: get back on the streets. Even the phrase career criminals 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: it acknowledges that this exists. 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: It shouldn't exist. 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: And I think what's so important about this is they 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: will pick and choose random convictions and say, do you 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: think this person should be in prison because they they're. 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 5: Always pleading down. 69 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: And I think we need to have a bigger conversation 70 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: so people can understand how this happens. It's very expensive 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: to get someone convicted, and very often the police will 72 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: charge someone. The DA will charge someone after a police 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: investigation with seven different crimes. And if you go look 74 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: at the seven different crimes, the top level crime will 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 4: lead to years in prison. The bottom level crime might 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: be a misdemeanor. And we have overworked oftentimes prosecutors and 77 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: they are judged on their conviction rates. And if someone says, hey, 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: we'll plead guilty to this misdemeanor or this low level felony, 79 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: then they get sentence based on that, they get virtually 80 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: no penalty. And then someone like mom Donnie looks at 81 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: this and says, well, look, this person only so here 82 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: all the time. Oh, this person only stole you know, 83 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: I don't know. They stole a cell phone on the street. 84 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: And you're like, well, actually they sold itself on a 85 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: street during an armed robbery that they also pistol whipped someone. 86 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 4: And they plead guilty to some sort of low level 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: felony or even a high level misdemeanor, and that is 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: understood to be the totality of their crime. And we 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: need to have real conversations about how these people are 90 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: being sentenced. 91 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: So I look it up and just to give you 92 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: all a sense of it, in New York State and 93 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: in the penal system in New York State, the average, 94 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: the average that somebody who is serving a carceral sentence 95 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: spending time actually in prison average convictions three. And there 96 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: are many, many, many who are in there. 97 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: For far more than three. But there are some who 98 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: are in there. 99 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Now you get into well, what about somebody's only in 100 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: there for the first time or you know, the first 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: or second offense. Generally those are going to be pretty 102 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: serious offenses, because they really don't lock people up for 103 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: lesser offenses the first time, the second time, maybe the 104 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: third time around. 105 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: And we have the. 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Data to show that there are people who have been arrested. Well, 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: here you go, this guy who just stabbed Arena Zerutzka 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: in the neck to death. 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: He was arrested I think fourteen times was what they said. 110 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: Fourteen times. 111 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: That's right, And you have to wonder at the same time, 112 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Clay that these Democrat cities, Democrat run cities with Democrat 113 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: mayors and police commissioners and city councils, and they're the 114 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: ones determining that, you know, social justice needs to go 115 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: ahead of actual criminal justice. They're also very intent on 116 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: disarming generally, not everywhere, not in a place necessarily North Carolina, 117 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: but in New York City and Chicago and DC. Their 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: intent on disarming the law abiding. So we know that 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: they cannot protect us. We can tell you with certainty 120 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: that the City of Chicago is failing to protect law 121 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: abiding residents in the way that it should. At the 122 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: same time, it makes it very hard, in fact, makes 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: it illegal. They will criminalize your efforts to protect yourself 124 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: in the city of Chicago by trying to carry a 125 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: firearm as a law abiding American. You can't be law 126 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: abiding in Chicago if you're going to do that same thing. 127 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: In DC, they play all these games. Now technically DC, 128 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: I think you can get a permit, and they make 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: it really hard to get a permit, and you know, 130 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: there's all these hoops you jump, the same thing in 131 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: New York City, they always make it really difficult. So 132 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: I just clay as somebody who is a big to 133 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: a believer, and you know, lives that life and has 134 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: guns in several places, many places in my own home. 135 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: The fact that these cities are choosing not to protect 136 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: you as much as they could as a law abiding 137 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: individual and making sure that you can't protect yourself is 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: even more galling. You know, it's even more egregious when 139 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you add I think those two things together, I. 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: Think completely, and you know, you start to analyze all 141 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: of this and you realize what it really. 142 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: Boils down to is. 143 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: Democrats have convinced that that and and it really is 144 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: across the board that everything should be reflective of overall population. 145 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: And this is why I look at and think that 146 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: the story of Asian success in this country is so 147 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: difficult for people to analyze. Right, if America is a 148 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 4: profoundly racist country, how are Asian men the highest earning 149 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: subgroup of race and gender anywhere in the country. That 150 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: would be impossible, right, And what they want is for 151 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: incarceration rates to directly reflect what the population at large 152 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: is really. I mean, that's where there are arguments that 153 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: they're saying, oh, it's profoundly racist, and this is why 154 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: we always they want to quote a system for the 155 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: incarcerated basically, basically, and they want this idea to be like, Hey, 156 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: we want even this of arrest rates and everything else, 157 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: which is why we come back on this show all 158 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: the time too. Let's look at the most serious crime 159 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: can be committed, murder, and let's analyze that. Honestly, who's 160 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: committing murders? Probably? I think this is a fair This 161 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: is a fair argument to be made. Maybe some of 162 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: you could come up with why this is wrong. I 163 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 4: would submit to you that murder rates when it comes 164 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 4: to violent crime, are roughly reflective of all violent crime 165 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: rates all the way down violent crime. 166 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: Right. 167 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: Does it make sense to you? 168 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: I think it probably does that if a certain racial 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: group commits a certain rate of violent crime for murder, 170 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: it stands to reason that the numbers would remain somewhat 171 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: similar down the flow. 172 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: Right. 173 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: So well, I mean I can give you this Riker's 174 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Island across all categorizations of crime is ninety percent Black 175 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: and Hispanic. Yeah, nine zero, right, So that's not obviously 176 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: just murders, that's just any crime. So if you're looking 177 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: at violent crime, yes, the numbers will show that the 178 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: disparity that exists with murder is going to also play 179 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: out with arm robbery, carjacking, you know, assault with the 180 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: deadly weapon and so on. 181 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: In other words, there aren't that many gram Odds or 182 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: Grandpas for that matter, that are engaging in extreme rates 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: of violent crime. Look, testosterone is basically a proxy for 184 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 4: rates of violent crime in many ways. Right, Men who 185 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: are primarily young men, young boys sixteen to forty five, 186 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: as male testosterone levels are at their highest, tend to 187 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: commit overall incredibly high rates of violent crime. And those 188 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: are the people who are going to be incarcerated. And 189 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: so if you can't have and this is the problem 190 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: the left has, you can't have a conversation with them 191 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: about this because one they'll say, well, this is, as 192 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: Momdannie did, evidence of systemic racism. Two they then go 193 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: into why criminals aren't responsible for the crimes that they commit, 194 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: because that's really where this soft on crime status comes from. 195 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: It is, oh, well poverty cause this, or oh lack 196 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: of education caused this, or oh American capitalism's failures caused this. 197 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: But Buck, you hit me with a great stat that 198 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: I think really kind of throws this into an uproar. 199 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: It is young poor Asian men in New York City 200 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 4: do not commit anywhere near the rates of violent crime 201 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: that young black men do. So if you just go 202 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: and layer this even on poverty, and that's where to me, 203 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: if you want to talk big picture, why this happens. 204 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: To me, it's it's absent dads. 205 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: I think ninety percent of all the ills that exist 206 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: in society, this is my soapbox, would be solved if 207 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: dads are involved in the raising of children. The data 208 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 4: reflects almost if you layer rates of violent crime on 209 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: absent dads, it's almost a direct response, right everybody, Young 210 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: men engage in overwhelmingly higher rates of violent crime when 211 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: dad is at home, and that uniquely afflicts the black population. 212 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 4: And by the way, it also calls into question the 213 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: racism argument because rates of absent fatherhood actually were very 214 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: low comparatively in the nineteen fifties before the Civil rights movement. 215 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 4: The black family was actually much stronger as a unit, 216 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: nuclear family in the nineteen fifties than it is in 217 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: the twenty twenties. Why would that be If racism, which 218 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: I think everybody would acknowledge, was far stronger in the 219 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: nineteen fifties than it is today, why would the black 220 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 4: family have become so much of a weaker unit over 221 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: the last seventy years. 222 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 5: It's not racism. 223 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: If anything, the black family should have been the weakest 224 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: in the nineteen fifties because it wasn't that long in 225 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: the grand scheme of things, since slavery had ended. It's 226 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: actually now weaker than it was in the nineteen fifties. 227 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: And those are tough questions that left wingers really can't answer. 228 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Short answer is Democrat policies and great society welfare. All 229 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: that stuff made it all worse. Yeah, I made family 230 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: formation worse across across the board, but particularly the number 231 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: show has been a huge problem for the widespread disintegration 232 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: of the nuclear family among the black community, which is 233 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean in rates, the rates in places like Chicago, 234 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: I think it's seventy seventy percent of children of black 235 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: children who are born in Chicago or are out of 236 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: wedlock don't have a mom and a dad at home. 237 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: It's something like that. That's very something like that. Nationwide. 238 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 4: I think it's seventy five percent almost nationwide of young 239 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: black kids are born without a dad at home. And 240 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: it used to be buck. I think in the nineteen 241 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: fifties it was fifteen percent. So think about think about that, 242 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: I mean, think about That's that. 243 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: All right? 244 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: Look, I own gold like you and many in this 245 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: audience too. 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Text my 270 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight today. 271 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: Want to be in the know when you're on to go? 272 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 6: The Team forty seven podcasts Trump Highlights from the week 273 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 6: Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay in Bug podcast Feed. 274 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 6: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 275 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 6: your podcasts. 276 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: Welcome Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We should 277 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: mention that all of the jobs data was cooked, and 278 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: it was cooked in favor of Joe Biden for much 279 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: of the last year. They just came out and announced 280 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: actually there were nine hundred and eleven thousand fewer jobs 281 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: created beginning in March of twenty four. I believe it 282 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: was all the way up to March of twenty five. 283 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: This mat because I think they were cooking the books 284 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: to try to make the economy look better for Joe 285 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: Biden when they thought that he was going to be 286 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: running and he was going to say, look at how 287 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: many jobs I've created. It basically cuts in half the 288 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 4: number of jobs that were created and gives you, guys 289 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: and all of us a sense that the economy was 290 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: not actually firing on all cylinders. When Trump came into 291 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: office in late January of twenty twenty five, he was 292 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: actually dealing with a very anemic overall job picture. And 293 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: it's evidence yet again that Jerome Powell, the head of 294 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 4: the Fed, has been too late to act. Now there's 295 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: expected to be a rate cut next month. There expected 296 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: to be multiple rate cuts between now and the end 297 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: of the year. But Buck, this is what your lion 298 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: eyes weren't lying to you when you were looking around 299 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: in November and saying, boy, it really doesn't feel like 300 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: this Biden economy is actually going that well. 301 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing how much they hid from the public 302 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: about Biden? Really, when you add it all together, we 303 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: talk a lot about the dementia and the the too 304 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: old to do the job thing, but he had really 305 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: the last gasp. I think Clay of the legacy media 306 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: running constant interference for him, and it even still wasn't enough. 307 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: Right. 308 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: They went all in on Biden, all in on the 309 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: Biden economy, all in on Biden's doing a great job. 310 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: You know, head, give a job Biden, and yet Trump 311 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: came in destroyed him in a debate, and then Kamala 312 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: was their last minute, last hope. 313 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: It just goes to show you. 314 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't think the the old media, legacy media, whatever 315 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: you want to call them, they're never recovering this, never 316 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: coming back. 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Make the 340 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: switch to pure Talk today Wireless buy Americans for Americas. 341 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Caroline Levett, 342 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary, is speaking about the de Carlos 343 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: Brown murder, alleged murder on that light rail. 344 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: Let's hear what the press secretor has to say. Play. 345 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 7: Yes, this monster should have been locked up and arena 346 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 7: should still be alive. But Democrat politicians, liberal judges, and 347 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 7: weak prosecutors would rather virtue signal than lock up criminals 348 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 7: and protect their communities. And perhaps most shamefully of all 349 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 7: the majority of the media. Many outlets in this room 350 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 7: decided that her murder was not worth reporting on originally 351 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 7: because it does not fit a preferred narrative. Many of 352 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 7: the journalists in this room spills plenty of ink trying 353 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 7: to smear Daniel Penny for defending a subway car from 354 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 7: a deranged lunatic in New York City, but none of 355 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 7: those same reporters lift a finger to write stories about 356 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 7: an actual murderer. Here's the truth that every American must know. 357 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 6: Too. 358 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 7: Many innocent people across the country continue to pay the 359 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 7: price of the failed experiment known as cashless bail that 360 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 7: has been championed by the Democrat Party for years. All 361 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 7: the way back in twenty twenty, North Carolina's then Democrat 362 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 7: Governor Roy Cooper established a so called Task Force for 363 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 7: Racial Equity and Criminal Justice. Sounds nice, but it's not. 364 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 7: That task force was co authored by then Attorney General 365 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 7: and current Democrat Governor Josh Stein. It recommended quote reimagining 366 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 7: public safety to quote promote diversion and other alternatives to arrest. 367 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 7: It also advised to de emphasize some felony crimes, prioritize 368 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 7: quote restorative justice, and eliminate cash bail. Democrats in North 369 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 7: Carolina in nationwide are consumed with pushing a woke, soft 370 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 7: on crime agenda, no matter how many innocent Americans suffer 371 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 7: as a result. Instead of aggressively prosecuting and locking up 372 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 7: violent criminals, the Democrat backed cashless bail approach lets these 373 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 7: criminals roam free in our country to offend again and again. 374 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 7: The list policies have turned too many many of American 375 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 7: cities into hunting grounds for career criminals who mock our 376 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 7: justice system, drain law enforcement resources, and recavoc on law 377 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 7: abiding citizens. Enough is enough, and that is why President 378 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 7: Trump is doing everything in his power by taking action 379 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 7: to undo these absurd policies. The President recently signed a 380 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 7: powerful executive order directing the AG to submit a list 381 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 7: of states in local jurisdictions with cashless bail policies so 382 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 7: that the Trump administration may identify federal funds that can 383 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 7: are being provided to these states and can potentially be 384 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 7: suspended or terminated. President Trump firmly believes that to maintain 385 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 7: order in public safety, we must incarcerate individuals whose pending 386 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 7: criminal charges or criminal history demonstrate a clear ongoing risk 387 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 7: to civil society. This is a common sense and sensible 388 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 7: approach that the vast majority of Americans agree with, and 389 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 7: it's time for the Democrat Party to get on board 390 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 7: with what is right. When these criminals are caught, they 391 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 7: must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law 392 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 7: and be sent to prison where they can no longer 393 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 7: terrorize our streets. This is the mandate the American people 394 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 7: delivered to President Trump, and it's a mandate he intends 395 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 7: to fulfill. Staying on the topic of public safety, new 396 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 7: preliminary data released today by Customs and Border Protection in 397 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 7: August shows that President Trump has delivered the most secure 398 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 7: border in American history. For the fourth straight month, zero 399 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 7: illegal aliens were released into the United States. 400 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: All right, so Clay, let's come back here. Though, I 401 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: will say that's a very important statue. Just through out there, 402 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: she was switching that the border is entirely secure. I 403 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: want to get to the conversation about criminal justice, of course, 404 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: but she just threw that in there at the end 405 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: as we were transitioning out of our live feed. The 406 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: borders is secure in terms of illegal alien crossings. This 407 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: isn't if you had told me that Trump had achieved 408 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: in eighty percent or ninety percent reduction, I would say, wow, 409 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: that's that's really a remarkable turnaround, great success. It's more 410 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: like a ninety nine point something percent reduction. It's it's 411 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: almost a total a totally secure border, at least when 412 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: it comes to illegal crossings. So that's one piece of this. 413 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: But I think Caroline Levitt, obviously fired up about this 414 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: is someone she's a young woman, she's a young mom, 415 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: she's a wife. She has to you know, she knows 416 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: where it is to be on public transit. She probably 417 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: takes the subway in d C cent a metro they 418 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: call it in DC. Sometimes I think for women in 419 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: particular Clay, who see this video, it is their worst 420 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: imaginable horror that they're just going through their day and 421 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: some maniac stabs them with a knife from behind for 422 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: absolutely no reason. And although I know there are people 423 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: that are starting to ask, well, what was the motivation 424 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: behind this and was there was there a hate crime 425 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: angle to this notice that's not being talked about very much, 426 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: but none the less, Clay, the feelings that people have 427 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: about this coming out right now, I think it's important, 428 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: it's powerful, and it's good that the White House is 429 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: addressing it. 430 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and again the end goal here should be we 431 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 4: should drive down. 432 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: The number of murders in this country massively. 433 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: And I just this is one of those things that 434 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 4: sometimes I can't believe that Democrats are lined up in 435 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: opposition to this, because I just don't see this as 436 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: a remotely part is an issue everyone out there should 437 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: be in favor of way lower rates of violent crime. 438 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: And for Democrats basically to come out and say, well, 439 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: rates of violent crime are actually getting better, Okay, I 440 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: hope that's true to a large extent. Better just means 441 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 4: we're going back to what the numbers looked like before 442 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: the BLM protests and COVID that was still too high. 443 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 5: So I don't understand why you wouldn't extend your hand. 444 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: I give edit to Mayor Muriel Bowser of DC for saying, 445 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: this is something I want to work with the president on. 446 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 5: Let's actually make it safer. Buck. 447 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: I saw the numbers shared the other day. Murders are 448 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: down sixty percent in Washington, D C. Since Trump mobilized 449 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: a national guard and took control of the crime issues 450 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: in Washington, D C. 451 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: Now, I don't know. 452 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: That he can do that over the course of a 453 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: year or over the course of a couple of years. 454 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 4: I would hope that he can. But even if he can't, 455 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: there are dozens of kids and I say kids because 456 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: most of them are young, that are going to be 457 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 4: walking around in DC this fall that would otherwise be 458 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: dead if the president hadn't taken that action. How can 459 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: you say that's a bad thing. And the number of 460 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 4: left wing white people, because I look at these protests 461 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 4: and it's all white people walking around saying, we don't 462 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: want more troops on the streets, we don't want more cops. 463 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 4: They live in such a crazy fantasy world and their 464 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 4: brains are so broken that what they're basically doing is 465 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: marching in favor of violence overwhelmingly directed at young black 466 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: and brown people, which is ostensibly what the entire purpose 467 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: of Black Lives Matter was. Right now, it was flawed 468 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: because the premise of BLM was, oh, cops are the 469 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 4: reason why young black men are being killed at high rates. 470 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 4: It's not actually true at all. Young black men are 471 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: being killed at high rates by other young black men. 472 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: No one, well, if you look at the data, is 473 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: able to argue anymore buck that police are somehow the problem. 474 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: You're seeing how many lives police protected, because as soon 475 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: as they weren't able to do their job, murder rates skyrocketing. 476 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: We're also seeing a shift in perception that is related 477 00:26:55,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: to an old, longstanding policy of lib news organizations. And 478 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: I remember a perfect example of this is New York 479 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: One is a channel in New York Clay New York City. 480 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: That is, if if Pravda was like transported from the 481 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: Soviet Union to New York City, it would be New 482 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: York One. I mean, it is so left wing, it 483 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: is so all about whatever the party needs, whatever the 484 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: committee decides, of the left. But you could see there. 485 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: You could see it on local news as well, and 486 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I would watch I watched this. I watched local news 487 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: in New York growing up right, I would watch these 488 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: different channels. Actually had an aunt who was a well 489 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: known local news broadcaster for many years in New York. 490 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: And she's the one with red hair for those of 491 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: you who are wondering. 492 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: And the common thing you'd see is, oh, well, there 493 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: was a report today of a of a you know, 494 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: a violent you know, violent maniac like chasing somebody and 495 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: hitting somebody in the head with a rock. And we 496 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: have a suspect here, the suspect is five foot ten, 497 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five pounds in mail. 498 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: But then they'd also sometimes show. 499 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: The you know, they'd show like a sketch, a police sketch, 500 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: and you'd look at, okay, so this is a black guy. 501 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 5: But they wouldn't say that. 502 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: They would They would often just leave out the description 503 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: of the suspect by race. They would just describe it 504 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: as a man hundred and eighty five pounds, and this 505 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: became more and more common. Also, they remove the racial 506 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: descriptor from headlines depending on who it is. If the 507 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: white guy stab somebody in you know, stab somebody to 508 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: death in Staten Island, trust me, they're going to make 509 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: sure you all know that it's a white guy stab 510 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: somebody death. They do this. This has been long standing 511 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: policy that they won't describe the race of a perpetrator 512 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: if the race is black or hispanic, generally speaking local news, 513 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of others, or they'll try to bury it 514 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: far down. This has changed, though, Clay, because of body cameras, 515 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: because of surveillance cameras, and because of the free sharing 516 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: of that information on x SO. Now whenever there's a 517 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: really nasty crime that occurs somewhere in the country. You 518 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: know what, a producer Alley just send us something, didn't 519 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: They drive like a truck into a what was it 520 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: a watch store or something and they beat some eighty 521 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: eight year old guy. Whenever there's a really we get 522 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: to see who's doing it. So the media can tell 523 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: us as much as they want that we're not actually 524 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: observing a pattern. But people are observing a pattern because 525 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: they can see on the video what is happening in 526 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: this instance and in many other cases just like it. 527 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: And this is where I come back to. At its best, 528 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: the job of the media should be to take anecdote 529 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 4: and utilize it to tell a story about why something 530 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: larger matters, because all of us respond to individual stories 531 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: better than we do raw data. 532 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: So you can sit back and say, hey. 533 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 4: The rate of violent crime in Memphis, Tennessee is whatever 534 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: it is per one hundred thousand, and you can put 535 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: that into a flow chart, and some people you and 536 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 4: I would be data nerds who would look at this 537 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: and say, oh, let's address this. Most people don't respond 538 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: to numbers. They respond to story. And so the murder 539 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: of the twenty three year old young Ukrainian girl on 540 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: video as it was is actually illustrative of rates of 541 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: violent crime that are too high, and so the same 542 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: thing happening with Lake and Riley and her murder an 543 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: in Athens, Georgia. All of these are crystallizing larger issues 544 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: that exist. The problem with left wing media is they 545 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: largely tell stories that are not representative of larger issues. 546 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: Like I don't know if you talked about this yesterday, 547 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: but compare how Daniel Penny on public transit in New 548 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: York City responding to a violent person who has a 549 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: long history of crimes in the past, who was making 550 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: threats on public transportation. Look get how that response was covered. 551 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: I mean they charged him with a crime. Compared to 552 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 4: how it's been covered in the Washington Post, for instance, 553 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: or MSNBC and CNN what happened on the public transit 554 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: in Charlotte, I mean, it's impossible to justify that from 555 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 4: a news gathering perspective. 556 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: You know, The. 557 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: Blaze and others have reported this Clay, but I haven't 558 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: seen this getting more widespread coverage yet. But we looked 559 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: into this, We've played the audio, we've put it through Grock, 560 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: we've put it. 561 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: Through by the way. 562 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: AI also is playing a role in all of this too, 563 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: because people can get instantaneous answers about so much now 564 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: without the filter of communists running Google is a fantastic tool. 565 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: But when you look at groc de Carlos Brown, the 566 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: guy who stabbed this girl, and people get sometimes frust 567 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: with me say allegedly, I mean technically it is allegedly. 568 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: He hasn't you know, he hasn't actually been convicted yet. 569 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: But we saw on video he says, uh, I got 570 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: that white girl. I got that. 571 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: White girl multiple times on the video. That seems like 572 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: a assuming that that is factual and accurate, which again 573 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: the Blaze where I used to work, has reported this 574 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: as accurate and the video is out there, that seems 575 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: to be another detail of the story that people should 576 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: become familiar with and understand. Well, that changes things a 577 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: bit as well, doesn't it. And when we look at motivation, 578 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm with. 579 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: You, we'll come back to this where hate crimes in general, 580 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 4: I think, are I care about the crime not as 581 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 4: much the motivation for why the crime was done. But again, 582 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: if this is one of those situations where you say, 583 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: if we reverse the races, if a white guy stabbed 584 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: a little, you know, young innocent black girl like this 585 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 4: young innocent white girl was. And then the white guy 586 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: is saying, I got that black girl. I got that 587 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: black girl. It's the lead story on CNN, MSNBC, the 588 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 4: New York Times, in the Washington Post. Four weeks there 589 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: might well be riots in the streets, all of that. 590 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: And now this has happened in Charlotte, and to a 591 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 4: large extent, much of the audience that consumes that video, 592 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: that those those outlets, has no idea what happened. Okay, 593 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: much less serious, infinitely less serious. 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Appreciate all of you hanging 625 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 4: out with us. A lot of talkbacks rolling in. We're 626 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: gonna go at the top of the next hour, Buck 627 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: to North Carolina and speak with Congressman Tim Moore about 628 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: the murder. There is more video that has been released 629 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 4: of the twenty three year old girl being stabbed to 630 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 4: death on the Charlotte Public transport. Nobody comes to or 631 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 4: eight at least in the video that I have seen, 632 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: and the producer ali, if you can pull yourself up here, 633 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: you listen to the audio, and it does sound like 634 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 4: he's saying, got that white girl. 635 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it sounds like. 636 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 4: So again I would just ask all of you buck 637 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 4: if this happens. The New York Times, the Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, 638 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 4: for weeks we are hearing about how we need to 639 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 4: have a national conversation about racism in the country. 640 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: Cities may well have burned. 641 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 4: They are mostly not covering it, or they're only covering 642 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: it through the prism of Oh right wing media is 643 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: paying attention to this story. Yeah, this is not a 644 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 4: republican's pounce story, despite what CNN and The New York 645 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 4: Times and others would like to pretend. It's not about 646 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 4: pouncing for political purposes here. This is about. 647 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: People seeing what is going on, being fed up with 648 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: it and wanting it to stop, and having solutions. By 649 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: the way, we're not just saying do something. We're telling 650 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: people what needs to be done. Trump is telling people 651 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: what needs to be done. And now it's just a 652 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: question whether the political will is there to make us 653 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: safe in this country. We will dive into this more 654 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: in the third hour stick Around