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Speaker 2: A great day, a great Wednesday. How's a podcast? Could

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Speaker 2: be lists on Thursday or Friday, but hopefully everything's going well.

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Speaker 2: The game plan today will be a college football show.

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Speaker 2: My guy Jackson, who has joined us the last couple

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Speaker 2: He's just Jackson, baby, moved to old town Scottsdale, college

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Speaker 2: football die hard. He will join me today. He has

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Speaker 2: a bunch of questions prepared and we'll just rattle through

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Speaker 2: the world of college football. Pretty excited. A lot going on.

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Speaker 2: We got Belichick rumors that it might be getting a

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Speaker 2: the corner. But we will have a show on Thursday

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Speaker 2: that we'll get ready for the Niner Rams game, which

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Speaker 2: is obviously a big game. We will get a vibe

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Speaker 2: We'll get here Sirianni, which I'm sure he's gonna get

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Speaker 2: the home stretch here. It's kind of sad fir as

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Speaker 2: cool as the playoffs are, that means like the majority

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Speaker 2: We only got four games left for a lot of

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Speaker 2: my guy Jackson. Okay, back at it again with what

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Speaker 2: many are saying is just a national hit in Jackson

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Speaker 2: from oldtown Scottsdale. Just just bringing the heat, bringing the energy,

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Speaker 1: Jackson, how you doing, bro? I'm good. You know what's

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Speaker 1: funny is I actually got a DM from someone from

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Speaker 1: South Africa, who's a viewer of your show. And they

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Speaker 1: So much going on in college football, for sure. Use

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Speaker 1: But I want to transition College football talk CFP bracket,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's natural. It's like, hey, guys, we have

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Speaker 2: And all everyone's doing. Anyone that covers college football, the

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Speaker 2: Four home games at Notre Dame, at Ohio State, at Texas,

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Speaker 1: How cool would it be if if everyone was playing right?

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Speaker 2: And now maybe it's difficult with the television window, you

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Speaker 1: Tuesdays?

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Speaker 2: So like ten days from now that is technically a workday.

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Speaker 2: So you couldn't just play in the afternoon like they're

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Speaker 2: But I hear you everyone's so negative, like this is cool,

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Speaker 2: Like you can nitpick absolutely anything. This is the first

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Speaker 2: change one thing. I didn't know the committee. Remember it

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Speaker 2: used to be at the BCS, like you were on

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Speaker 2: I think that would be pretty healthy. But that also

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Overall takeaways, I think that first, those home games with

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Speaker 2: I get that these guys are at you know, the JW.

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Speaker 2: tell me they couldn't have gone down to Costco and

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Speaker 1: Plus they're old, Like I.

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Speaker 2: Know, for me personally, if you put me twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: In this world where everything inflation, TVs are the one

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Speaker 1: The number one team in the country, the Oregon Ducks.

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Speaker 1: I feel like even though Dylan Gabriel he's a Heisman finalist,

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Speaker 2: Well, two things can be true. You can be an

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Speaker 2: it's not even debatable who the better quarterback prospect in

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Speaker 2: guy that's not that accurate. Well, why he's six foot looked.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what his exact measurements. What would you

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Speaker 2: get sixty six two thirty five? I mean he's huge,

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel is really small. You know, I think depending

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Speaker 2: He was elite in that game. I mean he was

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Speaker 2: slinging it around. You know, Tua's pretty polarizing player now

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Speaker 2: was slinging it around like two At Alabama, he was sweet,

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Speaker 1: But when you are.

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Speaker 2: I mean probably under five to eleven, and I think

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Speaker 1: Built like a little truck.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel's small, but he can really play and he's

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Speaker 1: That was one thing when you watched that Big Ten game.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on Penn State after that game? I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well, to me, what jumped out. You know, people that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got more speeders Ferguson, they have another guy

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Speaker 1: What the hell was that?

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Speaker 2: John Stockton Junior, just go around the quarterbacks that you're

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Speaker 2: He's had a really good second Like he's playing pretty

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Speaker 2: George just I haven't seen when we're recording this. It's

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Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I've watched Carson Beck like there are no guarantee to

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Speaker 1: Now. I don't know if John Stockins Junior is any good,

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Speaker 2: I just think that's where if I'm Penn State, I

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Speaker 2: to the twelve team playoff, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say too, like the whole playoff

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Speaker 1: I mean Gunner Stockton, you know he's coming in hasn't

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Speaker 2: I would say I think it's fair to watch Georgia

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Speaker 2: like such high standards that I would be shocked if

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Speaker 2: they want a championship. And honestly, the difference between Gunner

433
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: and Carson, I think coaches, you know, get so caught

434
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: up of like this guy knows the scheme, he knows

435
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 2: what he wants, he knows the plays. It's like he's

436
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: kind of held you back at times. Same thing with

437
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 2: Quinn Yours. Like I clearly I bet Sark really likes

438
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: Quinn Yours. Knows all the audibles, knows all the checks, right,

439
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 2: he just can't control the huddle. It's like, well he

440
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 2: can't move around really, It's like he's not making any

441
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: plays for you. And I think that's where coaches, it's

442
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 2: like in the NFL where coaches in front offices sometimes

443
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 2: but heads.

444
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Speaker 1: That's where Gunner.

445
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 2: Can he pass it well enough, I don't know, but

446
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 2: he at least gives him like a huge running element

447
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 2: that maybe that helps them out a little bit. And

448
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 2: again it's the other thing, It's like who's this guy. Well,

449
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 2: he's at Georgia's they're backup quarterback, so I would imagine

450
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,719
Speaker 2: he's pretty good relative to the rest of the quarterbacks

451
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 2: in the country. Like if Gunner Stockton had hit the

452
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Speaker 2: transfer portal before the season or like in you know,

453
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: the spring, I would imagine the teams that would have

454
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Speaker 2: been interested would have been a pretty.

455
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 1: Solid list of squads. Oh, one hundred percent. I mean

456
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: him coming out. I guess the one thing that benefits

457
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: Georgia is they don't play untill January first, so if

458
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: you do have Gunner Stockton in having that much time practicing.

459
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: I did like though, his ability to run that third

460
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: and one where he I think he nailed one of

461
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: the Texas defenders on the Georgia sideline. Everyone's going crazy,

462
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing too that benefits Georgia

463
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: in that game at least, and I texted you this too,

464
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: was Trevor atn playing in that game. He came down

465
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Speaker 1: to a game time decision him alongside their kicker. I

466
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: cannot believe scored all fifty two points against Texas. That's incredible,

467
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: that's wild. And then yeah, I mean they're clearly.

468
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Speaker 2: Uh that's just a bad matchup for Texas. That's what

469
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: we're gonna find out, Like how good Texas? Maybe they

470
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: are just good and against other teams they look normal.

471
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: I think that Clemson game could be weird though, you know,

472
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: for I know, everyone in Dabbo is never gonna shut

473
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: up now like everyone thinks we suck up. It's like, okay,

474
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: dab but we get it. But they they are going

475
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: to have really good players. I mean that's the one thing.

476
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: And their quarterback, who was really crappy you know early

477
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: in the season, has like you just watch him, I

478
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: would say, the second half of the season, he looks

479
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: like a real player, you know, as the guy that

480
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 2: they kind of put all their chips in the middle

481
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: of the table on a huge recruit. I think he's

482
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: from Texas, right, and uh, he was slinging that ball

483
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: in that ACC championship game like he can sling it

484
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: and he can move.

485
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Speaker 1: He's grown on me.

486
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Speaker 2: I was two guys like club Nick I was out

487
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: on and Aler I would say, I was just like

488
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 2: I thought the overhype and then I watched him in

489
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: those two games like okay, yeah, again relative to the.

490
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Speaker 1: Crop, not bad. It's not like these guys are going

491
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: up against Joe Burrow and Mahomes. Yeah, you look at

492
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: yours when they can't run the football, and you look

493
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: at Club Nick when they can't run the football, and

494
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: Club Nick from that game one against Georgia to now

495
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: now it's like Clemson's offensive center around Club Nick. And

496
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: now you've got freshman wide receivers. They got Brian Wesco

497
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: who's a part of that freshman wide receiver class that's

498
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 1: absolutely loaded. But you talk about Texas, how much longer

499
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: until Sarks got to pull the plug with Quinn Ewers?

500
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: Is it the first round where you see something or

501
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: do you think it's pretty much Quinn Ewers? And then

502
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: arch Manning is on the back burner, like kind of

503
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: talk about I guess the Texas quarterback situation Quinn you

504
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: Weers versus arch Manning.

505
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Speaker 2: It does feel like he's going down with the ship

506
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: this year with Quinn, doesn't it?

507
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: Because he's so talented defensively, It's like, do you waste

508
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: that waiting on a guy like Youwers and just praying

509
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: that his ankle gets better and that.

510
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he won't make a change in a game,

511
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: Like if it's ten ten in the third quarter and

512
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: yours like the first game, right, they're just playing it's

513
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 2: ten ten, and it feels like Club Nick's outplaying them

514
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: and like they are going to lose this game. Like

515
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: I could see him go into the bullpen. I don't

516
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: think he'll hesitate doing that in a spot and they've

517
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: already been playing Arts down the stretch on running place right,

518
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: I mean he basically it's gonna sound like a shot.

519
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: It's not trying to be like kind of a te

520
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Bow version packages. Remember early on in Tebow's career, that's

521
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: how he got on the field. I think it's freshman

522
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: year with Chris Leak. It's a little like that with Arts,

523
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: like they were running like quarterback sweeps, like he's scoring touchdowns.

524
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna bring him in more. People have

525
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: alluded to like the game day guys that have spent

526
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: time around Sark. I heard Stanford Steve say this, like

527
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: they got packages and they plan on it. Just maybe

528
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: the game doesn't play out that way. But I could

529
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Speaker 2: see him going to the pen, Like, I don't think

530
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: they're a lock to Like, do you feel great about

531
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: them in that game against Clemson? No, I do not

532
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: I do not, And you know, I think if yours,

533
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: if club, Knick's gonna like they have an advantage of

534
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: quarterback unless Dabble gets a lot of shit like no

535
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: transfer portal. Obviously, Sark in Ohio State and all the

536
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: big boys have been very active. They're just picking the

537
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: cream of the crop, right, we just need three guys,

538
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: We'll get this guy. Dabble hasn't touched it, but he

539
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: does recruit really well high school players, and it's like

540
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: they got some dudes, like you'll watch a guy score

541
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: a touchdown for like that number twelves, like breaking tackles

542
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: in the open field, like Jesus, who is this? Well,

543
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: yeah he's been. He's a top five high school recruiter

544
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: every single year. And if the quarterback plays well, you

545
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: know defensively, they're always gonna have guys. I think that

546
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: spot like Quinn gets tight, that that building could get

547
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: a little tight. Sarks come a long way, but check

548
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: his resume. Not exactly like some big game slayer. They're

549
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: getting a lot of respect in this game as a

550
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: massive favorite. It's one that I've already kind of been thinking,

551
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: like do you take Clemson, But at the same time,

552
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: like I watch Clemson play like shit in some games,

553
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: so you're not that.

554
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: Confident in him. But they showed up. You know.

555
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: I think we talked about this last week, the local

556
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: of the games, and that was a huge advantage for Clemson.

557
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: But Clemson showed up to kick ass, to take names

558
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: in that game like they were ready. And that's one

559
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: thing with Dabbo. He's been in a lot of big games.

560
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: His teams are usually pretty ready for these things.

561
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: How about him smiling a year to year after have

562
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: his freshman kicker make the game winning fifty six yard

563
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: They said on the broadcast, greatest kicking recruit in American history,

564
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: I think is what Sean McDonough said. So I guess

565
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: is no transfer thing is working out moving forward. But

566
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: besides that, is there any other intriguing first round matchups

567
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: just early preview that catch your eye for the College

568
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: ball Playoff? Well, did you watch when they broke out

569
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: the bracket on Sunday? Yeah, it took like fifteen minutes

570
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: to get it out there. Yeah, it took forever, which you.

571
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: Know, I mean, it's just classic, like the bracket reveal

572
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: takes forever. But when they went to Herb Street and

573
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: they announced Ohio State. Tennessee's like, you know, I wonder

574
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: if Ohio State, if they could pick, would rather go

575
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: on the road, because cause if all of a sudden,

576
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: it's seven to nothing at the end of the first

577
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: quarter of Tennessee, that place is gonna be booming them.

578
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: They're already pretty pissed off. It's not like they got

579
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: to shake off the game and play in the conference

580
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: championship game. So the lasting taste in everyone's mouth, which

581
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: I would imagine a lot of people that will be

582
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: attending the Tennessee game.

583
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: We're also at the Michigan game.

584
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: Obviously Ryan Day is not exactly you know, held the

585
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: highest steam right now around that place, and it's pretty

586
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: clear like he's probably coming back to so.

587
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: You know, you're kind of stuck with him.

588
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: I think people are gonna be pissed off, and that

589
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: feels like a rough matchup.

590
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: They got great.

591
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Defensive line, their offensive lines and shambles. How did Michigan

592
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: just beat them? Dominant up front? So now and the

593
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: difference is I guess Michigan in theory has a really

594
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: good defensive backfield too. But Will Johnson was hurt, Like

595
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: Tennessee has got SEC players on the back, like they're

596
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: gonna have real defense beside the defensive line, that place

597
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: get weird, and that place get weird fast.

598
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: You know. I think that's you know, like at the

599
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: end of the day, Notre Dame Indiana, it is kind

600
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: of David verse Goliath, And.

601
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: Even if Indiana won, it'd be one of the great

602
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: stories of all time. But no one would be like

603
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: fire Marcus Freeman or whatever. You look at Penn State,

604
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: people would be pretty pissed that there's gonna be James

605
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: gotta win that game. Sark was just in the playoffs

606
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 2: last year, just was in the SEC championship game, Like,

607
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: clearly they're going in the right direction. He's got Arch

608
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: in the pen. The pressure on Ryan Day to win

609
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: this game at home that if you're time night game two,

610
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: it just could get so negative. I mean, my guess

611
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: is fifteen plus million people are gonna be like, it's

612
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: gonna be so many people watching, it's gonna be so cold.

613
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: So part of like their passing attack is so I

614
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: would imagine Columbus a little warmer than South Bend. But

615
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: let's just let's just pick a number. Let's say it's

616
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: twenty two degrees. You're probably not passing for two hundred

617
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: and eighty yards in freezing cold temperatures. So it's like,

618
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: can they run the ball Tennessee, Tennessee can Does Tennessee

619
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: have a stud of running back. Yah, Dylan Samson's one of

620
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: the best running backs in the country. They could do

621
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: something like they did against Oklahoma where Nico threw the

622
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: only twenty times third down, just throw it to kind

623
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: of keep the drive going.

624
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: They just they just handed the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah, Davie

625
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: does copy.

626
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: The Michigan game plan, which is gonna ugly it up.

627
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: Let's get in a fist fight. We think we're tougher

628
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 2: than you.

629
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: Why would you not? I mean, yeah, you're right. It worked,

630
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: it worn't against Michigan were talent up front. Of all

631
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: the teams in this first round, I think Tennessee would

632
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: be the last team Ohouse State would pick to play

633
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: because they would have no problem playing Penn State. They

634
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: play them every year and beat them. Uh.

635
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: They would definitely take their chances with Notre Dame. They're

636
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: the better version of Notre Dame, they would think. Obviously

637
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: the Clemsons. Maybe maybe Texas has the talent the same

638
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: type there.

639
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Texas Indiana. Yeah, they would, they would.

640
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: Oh, Indiana might be their first pick. I think Tennessee

641
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: would might not be the last pick, but it would

642
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: be the last couple of picks they would want to play.

643
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: Now. The one benefit.

644
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: I actually heard someone say this, you know, getting married

645
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: in Nashville. The one thing with Tennessee it's actually a

646
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: little colder than a lot of the southern places. Like

647
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Miami Heisman Trophy ceremony this Saturday, the finals

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Speaker 1: were announced cam Ward, Dylan Gabriel, Travis Hunter, Aston Genty.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask it straight up, if you had to vote

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Speaker 1: in the Heisman Race, who you voted for this weekend?

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Speaker 2: I just give it to Travis Hunter. You know, this

697
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: is a year he's given it to the best player.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think what he did was so extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: It's not even debatable. And their team was good.

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Speaker 2: I think if Colorado had been like six and six

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Speaker 2: relative to what they'd been, he'd be like, ah, great improvement.

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Speaker 1: They went nine to three, and he plays like one

704
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty plays a game. We are never seeing

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Speaker 1: that again. Ever, he eats an outlier, and we might

706
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Speaker 1: stop seeing with him when he gets to the NFL

707
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: because these team's gonna be like, yeah, we can't do this,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty remarkable. I think just based on the snaps alone,

710
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: they don't throw it to a side on defense. In

711
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Speaker 2: an offense he dominated, So I have no problem given

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Speaker 2: to him. I listen the Boise running back. Do you

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Speaker 2: know if the playoffs count for your season stats?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't

715
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Speaker 1: think they ever have for the Barry Sanders record. Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're talking about? That's regular season? Yeah, I

717
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: would think it'd be regular season. I think maybe includes

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Speaker 1: conference championship. But I would be shocked if it included

719
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Speaker 1: the playoff, Like can you just get the Heisman? Can

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Speaker 1: you get the Heisman Trophy at Boise State? I'd argue,

721
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Speaker 1: like if he ran for three thousand yards or something,

722
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, this is crazy. You're playing San

723
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Speaker 1: Diego State in New Mexico and Nevada like he's an

724
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Speaker 1: awesome player. He's gonna be a good player in the

725
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Speaker 1: NFL if he had played at Boise and they had

726
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Speaker 1: been in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Like, he doesn't have this many yards. That's why it's

728
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Speaker 2: gonna be fascinating. How many yards did you get? Who's

729
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Speaker 2: in who's their bracket? Penn State, They've got Penn State

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Speaker 2: SMU and I think Sabu is like one of the

731
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Speaker 2: better run defenses in the in the in college football too,

732
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Speaker 2: so it's it would be that's a big that's a

733
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Speaker 2: big moment for him, which is cool, Like you know,

734
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Speaker 2: to me, Cam War once they fell apart, not his fault,

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Speaker 2: the defense suck.

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Speaker 1: He was out of it. And who'd you say the

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Speaker 1: fourth guy was? Oh, Dylan Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: I felt like he was never really in the mix.

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00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: He's just kind of like the token number one quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: best team you get to come. I think it is

741
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: a pretty big moment for genty because if he does,

742
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Speaker 2: like Playpen State and they beat him and he goes

743
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Speaker 2: for two bills, you're like.

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: But if he goes for like, you know, sixty yards

746
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: and they lose by twenty points, people be like Glad

747
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter got it. I'd vote Travis Hunter today, but

748
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Speaker 2: I also have no problem in voting for it at

749
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Speaker 2: the end of everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hate the argument when they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: snaps aren't a stat but it's like, we've never seen

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Speaker 1: a guy. I saw someone who makes it yesterday, a

753
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: bunch of people on just social media and stuff like that.

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00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: Nothing too relevant, but they're like, well, he's not even

755
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: the best in each position. It's like, okay, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he's not the best wide receiver, he's second third,

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Speaker 1: second third dB. Like that itself is pretty ridiculous to

758
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Speaker 1: be a top three at both positions. Let's even be.

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00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: Conservative, how many people in the history of football of

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00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: college football have been true top fifteen picks at an

761
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Speaker 2: offensive position in a defensive position. It's probably never really happened.

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00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Dion probably could have been if he just would have

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Speaker 2: focused on wide receiver. I had a buddy. I guess

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Speaker 2: he wasn't a buddy. He actually hated me. I hated

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Speaker 2: him too. But this guy that works in the NFL

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Speaker 2: that describe Michael Vick pretty well, he's like, he's probably

767
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Speaker 2: one of the only players I've ever scouted that legitimately

768
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: could have started in the NFL, like six or seven

769
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Speaker 2: different positions, you know, quarterback, running back, slot, receiver.

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Speaker 1: He could have bulked up and played.

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00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: Like a hybrid linebacker, safety, he could have gotten skinnier

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Speaker 2: and played corner.

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Speaker 1: It's like that.

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Speaker 2: That's where Travis Hunter is. What he did was pretty

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00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: freaking remarkable.

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: In a conference too. That throws the ball around a lot,

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00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: so he's running around.

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00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: I think I think Travis Hunter the story, the production,

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00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: the stat you know, the of the snaps. Everyone in

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: football is blown away by that, right It's he plays

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00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: how many snaps?

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Speaker 1: It's like this. I remember early on.

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Speaker 2: The season like this cannot keep going like this, especially

784
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: as they were good, and it's like just kept going,

785
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: kept going, kept going, kept going.

786
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Speaker 1: And every time you see him talking like this guy

787
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: even tired. It's crazy. I feel like he makes a

788
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: different play every single game too. I mean that hidiet

789
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: against Baylor that won them that football game. Or are

790
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: you talking about the big catches that he had with Colorado.

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: But I think the more important award that I not

792
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: get it as what's hyped, I guess as the Heisman

793
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Trophy is the National Coach of the Year. Some of

794
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: these nominees I don't know who they're gonna give it to.

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00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Shane Biemer from South Carolina, Kurt Signetti from Indiana, Spencer

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00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Danielson from Boise State, Kenny Dillingham, Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame,

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00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning, Rhet Lash. They can go on and on

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00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: and on. Modken Kirby smarts in the conversation too. When

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00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: you look at a Coach of the Year, is it

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00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: based on turnaround or is it based off of success?

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00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: And I guess who would you lean towards to getting

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00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: that award?

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00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it has to be Signetti, just because

804
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: Indiana such a joke. I would put dilling in probably

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00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: a two because like Boise States, I pulled up there

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00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: like win loss reference page since ninety nine, they're basically

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00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: averaging ten plus wins a year and they have countless

808
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: like twelve and thirteen.

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00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Win seasons like that. You win at that pro if

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00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: you lose, you suck.

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Speaker 2: You know who was the other name you brought up? Oh,

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00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman. Notre Dame's been sweet since Brian Kelly showed

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00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: back up and he's doing a good job and they're

814
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: just good again. After it got a little rocky when

815
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Speaker 2: you guys lost to Marshall and almost lost to Cal,

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00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: and I thought like, is this guy gonna make his

817
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: first season? Remember it was.

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00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: Really rocky early on. Was Cow? Was there a field

819
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: goal blocker? Remember Cowl should have beat you guys. Yeah,

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00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: I think it was Cal. I want to say it

821
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: was some Pack twelve team earlier game two. Yeah, But

822
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: then Colbos beat him the next week and it was

823
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: like this is this is a disaster.

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Speaker 2: It's why this year when he lost. Obviously it's one

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00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: of the worst losses in the history of the program.

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00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: In a vacuum, but the overall, you know, body works fine,

827
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: but he's good, like he's winning. But everyone worth their

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00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: you know, just a decent coach there is successful. So

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Speaker 2: I think Signetti, who did you see his comment like

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Speaker 2: we should get a home game.

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Speaker 1: Or it's like shut up, man, just be quiet.

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Speaker 2: But he is Indiana in the playoff, like of all

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Speaker 2: the teams, if you just look at that, like Indiana

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Speaker 2: being in the playoffs, and I would say ASU being

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs is one of the most remarkable story

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00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: like we're not gonna see that like next year Indiana

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Speaker 2: and ASU, I think we feel confidence saying probably won't

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00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: be in the twelve team playoff in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Well, I saw Indiana actually they raised thirteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: Arizona State are both the same where you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that they're already collecting three million, four to five million

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Speaker 1: And then for Indiana to get thirteen million, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a great guy and awesome story. He can't go like

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Speaker 2: Like he's got a part. He's got to just maintain

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Speaker 2: to keep that money flowing. And the difference is like Indiana,

863
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: like you said, theyre I'm sure got a ton of

864
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: money flowing in.

865
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: It's gonna be.

866
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: Very difficult their path every year because they're just gonna

867
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: a lot of times play Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Oregon.

868
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: You know, sc shouldn't suck this bad, and then just

869
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: the random Wisconsin's, Minnesota's.

870
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: Like.

871
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: The chances of them winning double digit games next year,

872
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: I would bet against where Arizona State, like if he just.

873
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: Parlays it gets some players.

874
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: It's actually pretty open in the Big twelve, you know,

875
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: I mean Colorado. I know he's getting some sweet recruits,

876
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: but losing Travis Hunter and.

877
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: Shadoors problem because you're having two guys go in the

878
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: top five ten in the draft.

879
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma States and chambles. Kansas is gonna lose a lot

880
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: of guys in the draft.

881
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: K State just.

882
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: Their programs basically the same every year. So I actually

883
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: think it's more sustainable at ASU if they do just

884
00:41:37,320 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: keep recruiting pretty well, it's harder for Indiana.

885
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: Speaking of a program that wants to get up to

886
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: those schools like Indiana and Arizona State. I mean, we

887
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: got to talk about what's going on with Bill Belichick

888
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. I mean I saw on the Pat

889
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: mcaview show they had the conversation if he gets hired,

890
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: he's got a hole basically bible, four hundred page Bible

891
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: of what he wants with nutrition, with training, with the

892
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: players he wants to bring in to make an NFL program.

893
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: They had a five hour meeting with North Carolina. How

894
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: legit is this and could this work?

895
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 2: I think that's I don't know if you forwarded someone

896
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: forwarded me the four hundred page Bible.

897
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: It was in the three and out chat and Bible.

898
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: You realize why so many NFL teams in like team

899
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: presidents and stuff, are going to be turned off by

900
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: that because one he comes in, he immediately just does

901
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: everything his way, Because how could you say no to like, hey,

902
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: do you guys want to win? I just did it

903
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: for twenty years. I need all this or this is

904
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: what works? Or if you're North Carolina, it's like, let's

905
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: face it, they're really really desperate. They really are, because

906
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: if they just get coach ACX, like their version of

907
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham or Kirk Signetti or whatever, the likelihood that

908
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: that guy wins there is not high. Not because that

909
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: guy's not a good coach.

910
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: This is difficult.

911
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: Most guys aren't that competitive there. You're at a huge

912
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: advantage in that conference, right Miami. I know Florida State

913
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: sucked this year, but I would imagine they're gonna be

914
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: way better next year.

915
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean, just those two programs alone. So you got

916
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: Miami in Florida.

917
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: State, which are kind of the cream of the crop,

918
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: and m C State, like all the schools that you

919
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: kick ass in basketball, like, there's just better than you

920
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: pretty consistently in football, Like NC State's just a better

921
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: over the course of a decade football program, Duke, I mean,

922
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: is under Elko assault like they just have had. They're

923
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: just they're not a pushover Boston College.

924
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: They went seven to five this year with Bill fucking O'Brien.

925
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: So I said this, like a lot of people around football,

926
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of been reported. I don't know how this

927
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: got all the guys like turning in a chefter on

928
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: Belichick keeps tweeting out things that a huge part is

929
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: he wants his son to coach for him, and like,

930
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I kind of get it because Bill Belichick's got one

931
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars I'm sure in the bank. He's accomplished

932
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: everything humanly possible in sport of football, and it's like

933
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: in his mind now it's about like setting his son

934
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: Steve up, Like that's in the only place where he

935
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: truly can get that leverage.

936
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: Like if Texas was open or Ohio State fired Ryan Day,

937
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: I don't think Ohio State would.

938
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: Agree to that. Do you agree even if they wanted Bellich?

939
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: Like if I was Ohio State, I would fire Ryan

940
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Day to hire Belichick because it'd be worth it, like

941
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: why not, we already got the players, But under no

942
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: circumstances would they agree to give Steve Belichick the job.

943
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: So if that is truly a.

944
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: Point, and listen, this is all being reported, I would say,

945
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 2: you know, is Bill really liked that? I just think

946
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: anyone whoever has met a parent, they usually just clearly

947
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Bill believes in his son right that it's very believable.

948
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: But North Carolina is like right at the fringe of

949
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: being an interesting enough job. I could probably went they

950
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: would also agree to that any good program, I just

951
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: don't think would.

952
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: I just kind of just laugh at this because I mean,

953
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: what kind of press conferences would you expect from Bill

954
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Belichick for college football after having this year of kind

955
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: of branching out showing more of his personality, whether it's

956
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: inside the NFL or McAfee or the Manning Brothers. Like,

957
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I could just see him having the We're on to

958
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati when it's just a bunch of college student journalists

959
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: and a bunch of players. Now you think it'll just

960
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: be yeah, Because in the NFL it's yeah. It's much

961
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: more like the injury report comes up a lot that

962
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: you have to put down. In college is a little different.

963
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: I think it's only one injury report at the end

964
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: of the week Schematically. I just think you can talk

965
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: about football a little differently as a college coach than

966
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: you can in like the NFL. I just think the

967
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: press conferences are pretty different. And I'm not saying Bill

968
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: would be like miss sure gregarious, but I think he

969
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: could balance being a little more like the guy we've

970
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: seen than the guy in New England. Because a huge

971
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: thing in the pro football, it's just all about chess

972
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: game me versue, chess game, me versue. I can't get college.

973
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Like, if Bill's accepting this job, he thinks, within twelve months,

974
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: I can get a team that's like, can compete for

975
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So if I got better players than you,

976
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Ohio State is a good example. Now let's

977
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: not even Let's say Clemson Clemson. What if they play

978
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 2: twelve regular season games, at most three of them are

979
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: somewhat equal, and they're at a disadvantage maybe in one

980
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: non conference game against Georgia. Even the games they lose,

981
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: they have better personnel. Now, it's football, you can you know,

982
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: you got to play the game. But it's just in

983
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, the margins are so slim. Anyone can lose

984
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: anyone In college, what's your team's gonna know, It's like,

985
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: we're gonna beat the shit out of these guys. Now,

986
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: that's always been a Bill thing, Like some of his

987
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: big Patriots seasons where they'd be like twenty point favorites

988
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: against Miami and he'd start like blowing their kicking unit.

989
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: So he's he's kind of natural with that. But I

990
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: wonder if he goes I'm not gonna get hired in

991
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: the NFL or or It's like a fifty to fifty proposition.

992
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: And I do wonder if North Carolina agrees that Steve

993
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: can be the coach in waiting, which how often does that?

994
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Remember?

995
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: Was that you were probably young, But like muss Champ

996
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: at Texas, you know it's been said before and it

997
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: rarely ever plays itself out that way.

998
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this could be an opportunity to where he

999
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: could coach alongside he coaches football, his twenty four year

1000
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: old girlfriend could coach chier. I mean, I think it'd

1001
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: be a pretty cool love story in North Carolina. Yeah,

1002
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like love knows, but she would the

1003
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: problem for that if you're her, I don't think you

1004
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: want him on a college campus because then he could

1005
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: dump her an upgrade where if you get him in

1006
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: an NFL building. And one thing the Patriots were always

1007
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: famous for is no women in terms of like their

1008
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: secretaries and stuff. It was all men like that was

1009
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: a big Patriot thing. Like in the Eagles we had

1010
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: like women's secretaries and stuff, but Bill was just no distractions,

1011
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: which is ironic because you get him outside the building,

1012
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: he's like chasing everything and getting caught up with twenty

1013
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: four year olds.

1014
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: I think Bill on a college campus. You know, there

1015
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: have been some famous coaches. I'm not gonna throw any

1016
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: names out there that you know, rumors were they date

1017
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: some co eds and you know, had separate houses on

1018
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: the beach and they were happily married quote unquote.

1019
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: So Bill could be a menace.

1020
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Bill and Steve run the town at

1021
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: Chapel Hill.

1022
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

1023
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: If I was a kid on North Carolina and I

1024
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: was a decent player, I would It'd be really difficult,

1025
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: but it'd be the best thing that ever happens to

1026
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: you if Bill Belichick accept the job.

1027
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Like, how would Bill Belichick be as a recruiter? You

1028
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: think you think you'd go more towards high school recruiting.

1029
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: You think you go more towards the portal. I mean

1030
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: him having the pitch of hey, I was the greatest

1031
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: coach of all time in the NFL, and I can

1032
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: turn you into an NFL player, But it's gonna be hard.

1033
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: Like you saw Bill O'Brien basically kick out as starting quarterback.

1034
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: Costiano's is in the portal now because those two got

1035
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: at it he didn't like the coaching I guess from

1036
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and got his ass out of there. So

1037
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: what type of recruiter do you think that Belichick could be?

1038
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: I saw Albert Bruce said, do you know how many

1039
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: homes that Dean? And this almost didn't even sound real,

1040
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: but I mean just coming from him, and he knows

1041
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: how many homes in living rooms? Deon Sanders is sad

1042
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: in the last two years?

1043
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: Do you know the answer? Well, what's your guess? One hundred?

1044
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: He claimed zero. The day and age of like sitting

1045
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: in people's homes, I think has changed dramatically, and they've

1046
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 2: changed the recruiting. You know, when I was at Fresno State,

1047
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: you had like seven or eight, you know, guys that

1048
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: were legally allowed to recruit right your your position coaches

1049
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: and even up to a certain number. So if you

1050
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: had more position coaches in the number, some of them couldn't.

1051
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: And then the head coach there were rules when he

1052
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 2: was allowed to go out, like in spring recruiting. By

1053
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: the time I got there, he was no longer allowed

1054
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: to go out. Maybe one year he was than one year.

1055
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: Now it's like a free for all. You can send

1056
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: your GM can go into a living room, right, and

1057
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: I do wonder what zoom and everything has changed a

1058
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: little bit. I think recruiting, it's not sitting there for

1059
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: most of these kids, especially the ones Bill and dionnor

1060
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: after of like I'm going to teach your son how to.

1061
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Be a man.

1062
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: It's like we got seven hundred and fifty grand you

1063
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: guys want. It's become very transactional, which is right up

1064
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: Bill's alley, because he doesn't give a shit about what

1065
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: you're cooking for dinner.

1066
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, Nick liked that.

1067
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 2: I think right Nick or really embraced it. If these

1068
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: new rules were not in place, Bill would never even

1069
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: entertain this. But I think he goes, I don't have

1070
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: to go into living rooms, And to me, the number

1071
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: one thing he's asking them beside that four hundred page bible,

1072
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: is like, what's our budget?

1073
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: Like?

1074
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: Do I have twelve million dollars to spend on guys?

1075
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: Because if we do, I feel pretty confident that I

1076
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: can allocate that money to the guys I like. And

1077
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: I think he would be heavy on the portal because

1078
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: one of his big things when he was when he

1079
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: would watch draft guys, I always heard was when he

1080
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: was preparing for the draft. He would watch the previous

1081
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: year's film and watch them against guys who had been

1082
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: rookies in the NFL. So if I'm watching a defensive end,

1083
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: I will watch him against this right tackle that I

1084
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: know was a third round pick that started seventeen games

1085
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: for the Bengals. It's like, that's what and I know

1086
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: right away, like this guy was a good rookie and

1087
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: so he's very good at that, so he can go

1088
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: the transfer portal, will give me the top thirty guys

1089
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal.

1090
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: Well, I can watch them, like who are the best

1091
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: teams they play? And I can watch them play other

1092
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: college players.

1093
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: That's why I would be very adamant if I was

1094
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: a GM in college or I was a head coach,

1095
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: I'd be very very hesitant to allocate huge, huge money

1096
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: toward high school kids. When you see some of these

1097
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: numbers these quarterbacks are getting, it's like it's pretty risky.

1098
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's a pretty clear why Dylan

1099
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: Royola is at Nebraska not Georgia, because hell, that could

1100
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: have been Dylan Royola come in the game extend of Sockton,

1101
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: but Kirby, I think they cut off their number there

1102
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: like we're not paying this for a high school kid.

1103
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: And also the moment you do that, he's more highly

1104
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: paid than like half of Georgia's defense. And Bill was

1105
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: big on that. It's why you always trade out of

1106
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: the first round because he never wanted to give big contracts.

1107
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: It's like, how could I pay a guy who will

1108
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: be the second highest paid guy in my locker room

1109
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: beside Brady's never even taken a snap. I actually think

1110
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Bill could thrive.

1111
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: In like the the economic environment where most college coaches

1112
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: hate it, He'll embrace it because if you suck on

1113
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: his cut, you could you imagine going to Bill Belichick's

1114
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: office and asking for a pay race if you're a

1115
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: college football player. I don't even think that would even

1116
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: be a thought to go to Bill Belichick's office unless

1117
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: you prove in it on the field. But I think

1118
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: it's crazy just now today's you know, college football age.

1119
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: I saw Dylan Stewart, the South Carolina defensive end, got

1120
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: a new deal for proving that he's a good player

1121
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: as a freshman. I just that part of it to

1122
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: me is like the one part it's like, man, like

1123
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how I feel about guys

1124
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: agreeing to new deals in college football, but that's where

1125
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: we are right now.

1126
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 2: But you don't have a choice because he'd go, well, Georgia, Alabama,

1127
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: and Ohio State are offering me triple what you know,

1128
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: let's just pick a number five hundred grand.

1129
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: It's like, well, they're gonna give me two.

1130
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: Million dollars next year. That's the dude that it kind

1131
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: of looks like clowny meet s Miles Garrett, right, yeah,

1132
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: pass rusher who I remember seeing on Twitter like six

1133
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: weeks into the season. They're like South Carolinaine is already

1134
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: trying to raise money for this to retain.

1135
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Them, which is the fucked up part.

1136
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: That's the difference in the NFL, Like you can't just

1137
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: call if I have a free agent, if I'm the

1138
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, the Packers can't just be working with

1139
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: the agent of like my starting running back or wide

1140
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: receiver who's going to be a free agent in the

1141
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: middle of the season. We're in college that happening constantly,

1142
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: and it's just that's where I think Bill would lose

1143
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: his shit. Like if you're trying to like he's got

1144
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: good players, you're trying to steal them.

1145
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: Like Week four, that's where he might not even care, right,

1146
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: he might just like blast people publicly. He'd be like, yeah,

1147
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: Lank Kiffin just called my starting pass rusher like DMed

1148
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: him like seventeen times. He would just say, Well, you

1149
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: can tell.

1150
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: College coaches kind of beat around the bush on a

1151
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: lot of this because it's like they're all part of

1152
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: the same club and they know they're all kind of cheating.

1153
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: But you know, in the NFL, like you get got cheating,

1154
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: you get turned in and your team gets fined or

1155
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: doctor a draft pick, and that's where the college is.

1156
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: There's no rules.

1157
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: I also think with like the South Carolina kid or

1158
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: whoever a top player is, it's usually their you know,

1159
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: a player like his level, his agent is calling the team,

1160
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: calling the head coach. Probably it's not like he's knocking

1161
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: on the door. I would imagine maybe maybe some of

1162
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: theseuse that would take some balls. Even if you are

1163
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: a good player, can you imagine just knocking on like

1164
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: Nick Saban or Kirby Smart, even Ryan Day or you

1165
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: know these guys coach Uh, And maybe I'm so out

1166
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: of the loop. Maybe these conversations are really it's hard

1167
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: when you're in business. Conversations talking about They're in comfortable conversations.

1168
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: So you're telling me, like an eighteen year old, nineteen

1169
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: year old kid feels comfortable talking about it with the

1170
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: head coach or even their position coach. Some of the

1171
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: position coaches are bigger assholes. They'd be a little intimidated

1172
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: by these guys. I my guess would be most of

1173
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: it is like them bitch into the agent, which I've

1174
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: been told all the top guys they're represented by people

1175
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: who obviously hope that they become NFL players, and they

1176
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: keep representing them.

1177
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Right. It's kind of like what happen.

1178
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: With basketball with AAU and then you go through like

1179
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: an intermediary to get your race. Every once in a

1180
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: while saw Mike Lockley give a story that like his

1181
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: third string running back knocked down his door after spring ball,

1182
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: said I want too hundred grand or a hundred grand

1183
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: or whatever, and Locksley was like, you're their third string

1184
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: running back. He's like, well, I got I got an offer,

1185
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: and Locksley's like, well, god speak great, go get it.

1186
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: See yeah, yeah, I mean that that part of it too.

1187
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 1: But I was also gonna ask you to in terms

1188
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: of the transfer portal, because it opened up yesterday Monday,

1189
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: December ninth. It goes to the twenty eighth. And a

1190
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: fun thing I did not know about is the portal

1191
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: opens up five days after your season end, so if

1192
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: it's in the CFP or a bowl game or whatever.

1193
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: I saw Lane Kiffin talk about how Duke's quarterbacks already

1194
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: in the portal before their bowl game. So now it's like, Okay,

1195
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: I know ole Miss is probably gonna roll Duke, but

1196
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: Dukes without their starting quarterback. Now you've got a couple

1197
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: weeks to adjust with two backups against ole Miss. Is

1198
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: there any way around this where the transfer portal window

1199
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: can be just after the season or is it because

1200
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: of the academic window you're forced to have it the

1201
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: ninth through the twenty eighth and then five days after

1202
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: whenever your season ends. And then also the spring window

1203
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: is just a ten day window too, like after what

1204
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? Like, so, if Texas

1205
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: were to get eliminated in the semis, let's say they

1206
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: get eliminated, but to Arizona State on the first players

1207
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: on that team, if they're not hit the portal already,

1208
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: they have five days after to hit the portal, which

1209
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: I didn't know because I thought, like, for example, Quinn

1210
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Ewers name has been thrown out there saying, well, you know,

1211
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 1: his draft stock's been bad, like could he potentially leave

1212
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Texas before they even play that game so he gets

1213
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: another opportunity. But I saw online where he would have

1214
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: five days after to hit the portal. So I'm just like,

1215
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm wondering your thoughts on just a portal window at all?

1216
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Or is it one of those things where coaches like

1217
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin are just gonna have to adjust, like if

1218
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: your quarterback leaves before a bowl game, sorry, like you're

1219
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to find someone else. I hear what you're saying.

1220
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: So if I'm a player, if I'm Quinn yours, and

1221
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 2: let's say I decide I want to keep playing college

1222
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: football next year, I could enter the portal today basically

1223
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: just quit on my team. Technically, I could enter the

1224
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: portal and like say, I'm not I don't know if

1225
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm leaving yet, and still kind of I don't know

1226
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: if you're allowed to practice if you're in the portal,

1227
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: Probably not, but you basically get two windows. It's like, well,

1228
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: I'll actually stay, but then I'll weigh my options it's

1229
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: clearly out of whack. I don't have the right answer

1230
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: for it. I knew people that just transferred just different schools,

1231
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: not even athletes, And then I saw it when I

1232
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: was at Frozen State, when guys were try It's very complicated,

1233
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: right with with credits in being able to transfer stuff,

1234
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: especially all these guys like the California school system, the

1235
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: Texas school system, the school system in Boston.

1236
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: It all doesn't How does does do the what's it called?

1237
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: What are your grades? The transcripts?

1238
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: Does none of that matter because half these guys that

1239
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: hit the transfer portal have to have some questionable transcripts

1240
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: how I did when my first couple of years. How

1241
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: can they possibly just transfer wherever they want?

1242
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: No questions asked? Are there just no.

1243
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: Rules to get into school anymore? Because I always thought

1244
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: like some of these schools like you can't just get it.

1245
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: You do have to qualify, right, maybe because they were

1246
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: academic qualifiers out of high school, and it's just like

1247
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: I don't even care. You know, I'm a junior, but

1248
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: I'm a technically only a freshman. Academically, maybe none of

1249
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: these guys even give.

1250
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: A shit, could you? That's why I think I feel

1251
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: like you haul should be the number one sponsor for

1252
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. I would hate to move. I mean TJ. Finley.

1253
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: He's a quarterback of Western Kentucky. He's played at LSU, Auburn,

1254
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: Texas State, and Western Kentucky. He's got one more year eligibility.

1255
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: He's in the portal going to his sixth school already.

1256
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable.

1257
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: How could you possibly I guess there are two ways

1258
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: to look at it.

1259
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: Think how many friends that guy has all around the country.

1260
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: Like he knows a bunch of buddies at LSU, he

1261
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: knows a bunch of buddies at Western Kentucky. He knows

1262
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: all these different coaches. If you wanted to get into coaching,

1263
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: if you're a player, like I'm not that good, I

1264
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: know I want to be like Ben Johnson or Kyle Shanahan.

1265
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: One day, you would want.

1266
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: To transfer like three different teams in Division one, and

1267
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: you would just meet so many coaches, and the likelihood

1268
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: that one of those coaches just turns out to be

1269
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: like sark Er, Lane Kiffin or Kenny Dillon is pretty high, and.

1270
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: It would just make your career. I would transfer every

1271
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: single year. But like back to the academic thing. Can

1272
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: you imagine what the guy's transcript looks like?

1273
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: It changes major three times.

1274
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm not mister academic. I don't give a shit, but

1275
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: I just do the academic now side of it. Get

1276
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: no say like it's like, yeah, this guy doesn't even

1277
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: qualify for our school.

1278
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: But clearly there is. I haven't read one time once

1279
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: a guy's in college football that he transfers and gets

1280
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: denied because quote unquote is transcripts didn't carry over. That's

1281
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: it's yet to be a story i've seen. Yeah, if

1282
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: these guys don't even care, you know what, We'll get

1283
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: you a tutor. We'll figure it out. Two point zero

1284
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: GPA doesn't matter. I got two more questions for you. Actually, yeah,

1285
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: I got two more questions for you. It's ball season

1286
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: right now. I'm a big bull guy, and it's the

1287
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: one thing about the twelve team playoff. It's great, but

1288
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: it kind of diminishes the fact of ball games. Is

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01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: there any way you can bring value to ball games

1290
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: and have some type of relevancy or is it kind

1291
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: of just thrown out the window. Yeah, gambling, I think

1292
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: people like the game. I like gambling on these bowl games.

1293
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean typic. We get Bowl games starting relatively soon, right,

1294
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: they start Saturday? Next week, they're starting this Saturday. Yeah, yeah,

1295
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: you just get you just get random matchups. Listen, when

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Speaker 1: I was at Present State, we played in the New

1297
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Mexico Bowl. Do you know when the New Mexico Bowl

1298
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: usually was this Saturday? It was always one of the

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01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: first games. It was cool.

1300
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: Uh, it's if there's a Bowl game on TV, especially

1301
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: during the holidays. Is there anything better than like a

1302
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: week before Christmas, on like a Wednesday, there's just a

1303
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: game on in like the afternoon, and it's like Louisiana

1304
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: Tech versus you know, Toledo. It's like I'm in watching it.

1305
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: And now I think the gambling aspect again, it's just

1306
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: television inventory. I think people make too big of a deal,

1307
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: like the bulls don't matter. It's have they ever like,

1308
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: has the New Mexico Bowl ever mattered? Would it mattered

1309
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty any more than it matters in twenty

1310
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: twenty five?

1311
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: Of course not.

1312
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: You could argue it matters now more because all these

1313
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: like are on ESPN or Fox. So I it's cool,

1314
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: Like this isn't baseball or basketball. You don't get to

1315
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: play that many times. Most of these kids and most

1316
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: of these bulls are not Travis Hunter and they're not

1317
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: going to play in the NFL. I think it's a

1318
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: really cool thing to get to play in football games,

1319
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: Like you just don't get that many of them, right.

1320
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: I think people talk too much shit too easily about

1321
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: when it comes to this type stuff, when we have

1322
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: to factor in, like there aren't that many football games

1323
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: in general in a human's life, even if you're a

1324
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: college football player. And if you're a college football player,

1325
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: most guys don't start for four years. So let's say

1326
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: you're like a one and a half year starter, how

1327
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: many games you actually end up getting to play, like

1328
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five?

1329
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a really big deal.

1330
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: And I give props to Dion for saying, our guys

1331
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: are playing. I saw someone else say, who'd I see, like,

1332
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: our guys are playing. I've seen a lot of coaches

1333
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: kind of come out. Maybe it was Kyle McCord, was

1334
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: Syracuse coach, someone.

1335
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: Said that like our guys. Yeah it was it was

1336
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: Fran Brown, Yeah, from Syracuse.

1337
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: I we didn't come here to not play, Like what

1338
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: are you almost mocking the question which I'm a huge

1339
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: fan of Like when something goes one way, the media

1340
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: loved it.

1341
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: They just they celebrated it, like these kids have the power.

1342
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's.

1343
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: Like it's not you guys are a little too deep

1344
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: on this. It's not that big deal. Christian McCaffrey's a

1345
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: running back. He doesn't want to play in the bowl

1346
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: game against North Carolina. It's not that fucking crazy. But like,

1347
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: it's also not that crazy if a kid does want

1348
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: to play. And you remember, you were probably like six

1349
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: at the time when Jalen Smith played in the bowl game.

1350
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: I was at that game. I was at that game. Actually, yeah,

1351
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: I was. I was stating the Fiesta bol. Yeah, he

1352
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: was supposed to be like a top five pick. Hurts

1353
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: his knee really bad. He didn't get back. I don't

1354
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: think that next season for the Cowboys. But to your

1355
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: point about the bowl games, I'm looking right now. I

1356
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: mean Vanderbilt Georgia Tech. I mean that's kind of a

1357
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: sneaky matchup with Diego Pavia or Pavia from Vanderbilt versus

1358
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: a hard nose quarterback and Haines King. I g if

1359
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: there's nothing on TV, I'm putting that on at seven

1360
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: pm on a Tuesday night.

1361
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: So are a lot of people that game. It's the

1362
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: other thing, that game will have more viewers than probably

1363
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: ninety eight percent of NBA regular season games. That game

1364
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: will get more viewers than every non like Dodger Yankee

1365
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: baseball game. Like it's a lot of people watch these games.

1366
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: That's that's why they keep existing, you know. It's like, yeah,

1367
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: the kind of weird matchups. Some if you just say

1368
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt Georgia Tech, the first reactions like here cares about

1369
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: that game? Well, two point seven million people ended up

1370
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: watching it on like a Thursday night.

1371
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: South Alabama, Western Michigan this Saturday. That's why I draw

1372
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: the line as some of those Matt, you know.

1373
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: I need I need power for teams, even the occasional

1374
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: like you know, Fresno State or an Appy State, you know,

1375
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: in those type games.

1376
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: But whatever game you just.

1377
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: Witness or mentioned, I'm probably not gonna watch.

1378
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you to preview it, but we'll continue.

1379
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. My last question for you, we got to

1380
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: talk about it. Navy Army this Saturday. Are you going

1381
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: over under thirty and a half? Who do you like

1382
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: in that game? Army Navy. You watch Army Navy. No,

1383
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: I've never been, have you been? Yeah?

1384
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: My first year in Philadelphia, the game used to be.

1385
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of gone back and forth, like

1386
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: between the Link where the Ravens play. They have sometimes

1387
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: I think it met Life and I just got free

1388
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: tickets because it was at the Link and someone in

1389
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: the building was like, bro, I would go.

1390
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. I went by myself. I didn't have

1391
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: anyone to go with. And it's just if.

1392
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: You love America, like it's the pageantry before. Like again,

1393
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,959
Speaker 2: it felt like my high school teams running the wing tea.

1394
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: I mean the football. It's not like you're going to

1395
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: see Alabama Georgia. But someone just said get there a

1396
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: couple hours early, and it's just sweet. The way they

1397
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: all come in the flyovers, it's just a really powerful moment.

1398
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: Place is packed again. Then they just start at the time.

1399
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: I think their offenses has changed a little bit, but

1400
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: it was like this was twenty ten. It was like

1401
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: wing t versus the wing tea triple option. But everything

1402
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: surrounding the game.

1403
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: Is just it's just it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

1404
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've over the years thrown it on

1405
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: the background out of respect for the men, out of

1406
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: respect for my country. As a football lover, it's not,

1407
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, my go to. But when I was at

1408
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: cal Pauly, our coaching staff, I got hired at Fresno State,

1409
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: like a year later, they all got hired.

1410
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 1: The head coach, Rige.

1411
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: Ellerson got the Army job, and I had been working

1412
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: with those guys for like a couple of years, so

1413
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: I kept in contact with him when.

1414
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: They were at an army.

1415
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: The difficult uphill battle. The players like the stuff they

1416
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: have to do, it's not even it's insane, you know,

1417
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: in terms of school and training separate from football. I

1418
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: mean it's you're like, these guys are such bad asses

1419
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: and anytime at the time that Andrew Villa Nueva was

1420
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: one of their players who ended up playing for the

1421
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: Steelers at the left tackle. But it's like it's not

1422
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: normal college football, Like they don't get to just dick around,

1423
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: go home and you know, have to practice, eat some

1424
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: food and go lay with three chicks. I mean, it's

1425
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: it's like a different world of maturity of discipline. So

1426
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 2: I have a ton of respect just to operate in

1427
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: one of those programs.

1428
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy.

1429
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's awesome seeing this year they've been good, right,

1430
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: They've just won a lot of games.

1431
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: Army just won the American Athletic I mean they were

1432
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: an underdog in that football game too late. Never seen

1433
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: an offense like that before they showed out. I think

1434
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: it's cool to your point, like the different uniforms they have,

1435
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: how Nike goes all out for I think it's an Army,

1436
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: and then Navy goes or under Armour goes all out

1437
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: for Navy. So all in all the patentry of it,

1438
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: and it's also fun from a gambling perspective to see

1439
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: will the overhits well the underhit. I think it's been

1440
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: like the last twelve fifteen years or something like that.

1441
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: The undershit did last year maybe the overhit.

1442
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: I feel like, don't quote me on this, but it

1443
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: feels like a large percentage of the last I don't know, seven, eight,

1444
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: ten years, at least one of them has been really bad.

1445
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: Like a lot of times you look up at the

1446
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: game and they're like three and nine. I mean this

1447
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: has to be eight and three, verse eleven and one

1448
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: and two. I mean a point in time, like Navy

1449
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: was viewed as one of the best offense in the

1450
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: league before they played you guys and got killed. But

1451
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean, for the most part, they score on everybody,

1452
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: and Armies had an excellent season. Like, aren't these like

1453
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: powerhouse offenses? Could this actually be a shootout on the ground.

1454
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: That's why I was shocked to see the over under

1455
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: totals at thirty eight and a half. Usually I feel

1456
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: like you see that around like twenty five, twenty eight,

1457
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: twenty six.

1458
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: But I mean I just pulled up Navy like forty nine,

1459
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: thirty eight, fifty six, forty one, thirty four, fifty one.

1460
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: These teams usually don't score like this, both these two teams,

1461
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: like you said, I had it on like a smaller

1462
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: TV on. Was it Saturday morning when the Arizona State

1463
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: game was on? They were playing, they were killing them

1464
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: And you look at Army thirty five, twenty nine, forty nine,

1465
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: forty five, forty four, forty nine, you'd have Belichick probably

1466
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: know the answer to this. It has to be two

1467
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: of the higher scoring offenses for these two programs in

1468
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: the same year. And like the history, definitely in modern

1469
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 2: day history of this rivalry.

1470
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, it's gonna be fun watch. I mean college

1471
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: game that goes out there, the attention you're right for

1472
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: in honor of the troops and what they do for

1473
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: the country. And I actually had a friend that went

1474
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: to Air Force and he said it was just a

1475
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: different different world. Having you mentioned school military football, like,

1476
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: imagine waking up at what is it, three four am,

1477
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: get your militarying military military well, can't talk military training done,

1478
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: and then you go to school and then you got

1479
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: football and then you come back home. So I don't know,

1480
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: maybe it's in Maryland. It's at Northwest Stadium. I don't

1481
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,879
Speaker 1: know what that is. I don't know if that's related

1482
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: to Baltimore Ravens or wherever. But yeah, I think the

1483
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: Ravens one is MP Bank or whatever. Northwest Stadium. I

1484
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: don't even know what this is. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. Yeah.

1485
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 2: So, uh so what we have college We have games

1486
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: this week and then we do playoff games. We'll be

1487
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: in touch because we got to figure out a time.

1488
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: Maybe we react next Saturday night or two saturdays after

1489
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: we have the first round of the playoffs. The only

1490
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: thing that pisses me off is the is the brackets

1491
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: and not receding because I do think it's I do

1492
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: think the one thing that's fair to be negative on

1493
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: it's not a nitpick, is like, wait, Oregon has to

1494
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 2: play the winner of Oregon Tennessee, Ohick State Tennessee, yeah,

1495
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: or Ohio State Tennessee. Like in college basketball, usually win

1496
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: you're a one seed. For the most part, you at

1497
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: least get an easy route the first couple of games

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Speaker 2: and sometimes so like the Elite eight, I mean, their

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Speaker 2: first game is going to be against Ohio State, which

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Speaker 2: even with their issues, could be one of the best

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Speaker 2: teams in the country.

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Speaker 1: In Tennessee, at one point in time, we thought, like,

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Speaker 1: is this team gonna win the national championship? I saw

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01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: Joe Klatt was like, you know, they got to play

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: two potentially the winner of you know, these two of

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: the top like three or four odds teams in the

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Speaker 1: whole tournament. But even if they did reseed it And

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course, the college football season has been

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Speaker 1: chaos and most people are saying it's gonna be chalk

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Speaker 1: unless you said clubs it could potentially beat Texas, not

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Speaker 1: a fair matchup for Texas. They'd most likely still would

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Speaker 1: play Ohio State Tennessee. So I mean, I mean Oregon.

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Speaker 1: That sucks. You gotta play Ohio State again. But if

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Speaker 1: they don't lose to Michigan, then you end up playing

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Speaker 1: a Penn State, or you play at Texas, or you

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Speaker 1: play a Notre Dame. So I just feel like the

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Speaker 1: twelve team bracket as a whole is gonna be hard regardless.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that Oregon did win the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: and they've got a way harder path than Penn State,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely a bad look for the first year. And

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Speaker 1: part of that two has to do with Boise State

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Speaker 1: getting a first round by and then SMU squeezing in there.

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Speaker 1: Like if SMU gets blown out, does Alabama get in

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Speaker 1: there too?

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Speaker 2: So that's where those two teams getting buys. Like Oregon

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Speaker 2: should be playing Boise State or Arizona State, right, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: Who they should be playing, and potentially they wouldn't do

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Speaker 1: this for TV. Boise State in Arizona State should probably

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Speaker 1: be playing in the first round against each other. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Toy a maoutter of time, and so we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the sixteen teams, man, geez, it's right around the corner, okay, Jackson, Well,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the week and firing those dms.

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Speaker 2: You get yourself a date. Talk to you soon, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, teach me something else offline and something like that.

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Speaker 1: I need some DM lessons from John Metalcoff for sure.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Matt, Thank you, See you, buddy. The volume