WEBVTT - Adult Education: The Unbreakable Man 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.080 All right, so this week's adult education looks a little different. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.880 I've got Kristen next to me because my other half 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.919 is in London, so we are recording this with my 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:19.959 girl Kab and thanks for having me. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:20.960 You're welcome. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.760 Are you gonna have a Scottish accent on this one? 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.560 I don't do well with that, but I do. I 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.080 am learning the rules. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:31.240 Of football football football. 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.199 Yes, well that's a good start. I have nothing to 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.320 say that. But we have such a fun guest on today. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.360 His name is Peter Fretchanelli. He is an actor and 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.879 he is in a new movie. You might have seen 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.720 him in Twilight, but he's got a new movie out 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.839 called The Unbreakable Boy, exclusively in theaters now. It's a 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.400 beautiful story about a boy named Austin zach Levi stars 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.720 in it. It's about this little boy who is autism 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.520 and has brital bone disease. Let's get Peter on. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.440 Hi. I'm Jana, this is Kristen. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:07.119 Hi. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:08.360 How are you. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.160 I'm doing it wonderful. It's cold in New York, but 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:13.560 I'm inside so well. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.440 We have a snow day today. So our kids are 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:16.399 home from school. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:17.240 Where are you. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:18.520 We're in Nashville. 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:19.640 Oh wonderful. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.120 So like everything shuts down when it snows here. But 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.759 we're both Michigan girls, so we're like, we got this. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:29.000 The show must go on always. Yeah, we have pre 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:33.480 salted one inches of snow and has canceled everything. Everybody 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.160 is in a panic here and can't get anywhere. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.360 Apparently I'm from New York too, so I love snow days. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.479 Oh you are from New York. Okay, I didn't know that. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:42.520 Love that. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.720 Okay. Well, first and foremost, we watched the movie, and 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.680 what a beautiful film, first of all, but the behind 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.680 the scenes story of it is great because you actually 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:58.320 met the real Zachary Levi in person, right, And yeah, well. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.920 This story is that's kind of crazy. My brother in law, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.960 Leon owns a pharmacy in New York City, Okay, called 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:11.040 Pastor Pharmacy and shout outs at Pastor Pharmacy. And so 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.920 Scott walked in there. He's looking for at shaving stuff 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.600 because my brother in law is a cool like selection 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.520 of shaving stuff. And then and then they got to 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.519 talking and he started talking about this book that he wrote, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.959 and Leon said Oh, that's cool. My brother in law 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.200 is in the movie business. You should you should link 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.720 up with him. He maybe he can make it into 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.200 a movie. And so Leon called me and said, hey, Pete, 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.720 this guy walked into my story. He wrote a book. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.680 Sounds cool. You should make it into a movie. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.480 How many times, as actors have you heard that too? 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.160 You know what I mean? All the time? 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.080 Twelve times a day like this joke. You should make 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:50.560 it into a movie. My grandfather get so I didn't 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.280 think anything of it, but he said he's coming out 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.680 to La next week. I told him you'd have lunch 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:57.840 with him. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.760 Also, how often does this happen? 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.480 Well? I was kind of annoyed because I was like, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.480 why did you tell this perfect stranger lunch with them? 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.280 Like time is precious with kids. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.280 Well, it's really hard to shepherd a book into a movie, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.880 Like it's it's hard enough to get people to read 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.760 a script. I think I gave the book to my 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.000 agents and it set in his mailbox for like six months. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.680 And it was like, get read that book. He was like, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:20.960 did you give it to me? It's like it's in 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:26.480 your mailbox. Anyway. I sat down with Scott and I 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.200 had read the book because I knew I was having 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:29.800 lunch with him, and I was just going to give 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.799 him advice because I thought, oh, this is a cool 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.680 story and and and so for the first like six months, 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.960 I was just giving him advice because I wanted to 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.360 see it on screen myself. You know, I thought this 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:44.280 is a cool book, really really beautiful story. And you know, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.600 I didn't have any you know, I wasn't interested in 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.840 taking it on in time. I had a lot of 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.400 stuff on my plate. But and I produced, but it 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.840 was something I was looking for. But I was giving 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.720 him advice to help him. And then six months later 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.800 he had some producers on that fell off and he said, well, 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.880 maybe you could help me produce it. And I thought 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.280 about it. It's as big of as a thing it 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.800 is to take on to get people to read a book. 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.080 I just wanted to see it on screen because it 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.200 was just so beautiful. So I stepped in and uh, 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.919 you know, I would have meetings and I would always 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.839 pitch it where I thought it was appropriate. And not 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.560 too long later, I found a company called Kingdom Story 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.920 that came on board really understood what we were trying 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.240 to do, understood the story, and uh, and they had 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.720 a deal with lions Gate, and then we talked to Lionsgate. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.839 Then we were able to put a beautiful cast together. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.960 John Gunn came along to write the script, and you know, 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.599 this is this is development. It could take years and 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.760 years for this to happen, but it was happening very 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.600 fast and uh and then COVID happened and everything was 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.640 shut down, and a weird way, it worked in our 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.159 favor because it was a small, intimate movie with with 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.520 a handful of casts. And zacly I b I had 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.240 a big football movie he was doing and they couldn't 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.279 make that one because there was just too many people, 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.919 too high of a risk for people getting sick. And 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.680 Linzi said, we why don't we move this one up 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.640 and see if we could make this as an experiment 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.200 and make sure no one gets sick, and then maybe 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.200 we could do other ones. So we were the only 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:22.240 film actually filming in twenty twenty. There was mission impossible 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.800 shooting overseas, but we were the only studio film shooting 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.440 in the US. So it was such a blessing that 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.400 we were able to put people to work at that time. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.560 Nobody got sick. We made a beautiful movie, and then 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.920 it was supposed to come out in twenty twenty two 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.479 and there was another round of COVID that wiped out 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.480 like a bunch of theaters that they all shut down 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.480 because they were worried about the Omni crown of virus 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.920 at the time. And so we lions Gate believed in 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.360 the film enough to pull it because we had posters up, 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.080 we were really excited. We were going to go. And 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.760 then it sat for a little while they were trying 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.800 to figure out should we put it straight to streaming 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.159 because people are home, you know, are people still going 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.440 to the theaters? But lions Gate believed that enough to 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.640 put it out there in theaters wide. And I'm so 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.600 proud of this film. I'm proud of the message that 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.200 it has. I feels like it's coming at the right 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.720 time because I feel like the world kind of needs 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.080 a beautiful, inspiring movie right now, full of love and 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:19.640 a message of hope and resilience and faith. And yeah, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.839 I'm super proud of the journey of it all. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.120 Were you always set to play the pastor or were 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.600 you did you ever want to play the lead? Dad? 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.800 No, I felt like I wasn't quite right for the 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:36.800 lead of Scott. So I was looking for someone that 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.680 could fill those shoes. And then I was just going 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.560 to produce it and not be in it. I mean, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.680 for me, it's like I'm not in my career at 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.360 a place where I'm like, I want to do this 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.520 to service me. I always see where I could service 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.520 the story. So sometimes I write things and I'm in them. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.640 Sometimes I'll write and produce and either if there's something 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.760 where I can jump in and it benefit fits the story, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.360 then I'll do it. I mean I've directed three films, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.719 uh and and one of them I was the lead 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.320 in because it felt right. The other one I played 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.960 a smaller role because it didn't feel like right, and 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.440 and the first one I wasn't in at all. So 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.320 so this film I was just interested in producing. I 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.360 had other things going on, and then Zach came on 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.800 board and this other role when when John Gunn wrote it, uh, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.680 you know, there was a there was a role there 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.920 with the preacher, and I thought, well, that's that's fun 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.360 and I could jump in and do that one and 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.320 it feels like a service is that role and the story? 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.440 Yeah? I love that is your favorite hat to wear 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:39.800 right now? 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.200 Producer director, actor, if you could pick one, are you 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.640 just kind of floating between and like the versatility that 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:46.480 you have in all of it? 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.720 Really whatever? For me? I mean, I don't have a favorite. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.920 It's like, I love acting. I'll always love acting. I 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.400 think directing I really enjoy as well, because that's you 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:02.280 get full. That's that's an movies and TV or a 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.080 director's medium. You get, you know, to collaborate with all 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.080 the parts. You know, it's like you're painting and everybody's 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.880 there to facilitate your painting. And that's a beautiful thing. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.520 And as an actor, you're just a cog in someone 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.080 else's wheel. But it's also forms of storytelling. So for me, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.000 as an actor, I tell the story as that character 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.400 using my body, my voice, and I'm a part of 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.640 a bigger thing, a cog in the wheel. And as 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.880 a writer, I'm just helping to create that story. So 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.080 it's kind of fun to write because you're it's like 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.280 you're it's like playing god. You're like, and then Jimmy 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.880 gets hit by a bus. I like Jimmy. Jimmy nearly 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.439 gets hit by a bus. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:40.079 Well. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.760 I think it's interesting because there was this big piece 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.040 going around about how like, I mean, that's the Blake 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:46.880 Lively thing. But she was saying like, oh, she likes 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.680 to put her hands in everything, and I'm like, as 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.680 an actor, like I think you should. Like I the 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.200 last movie I did in January, it was like, I 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.280 just don't know if she would say this, like can 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.920 we tweet? It's like, I think there should be a 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.560 collaborate a collaborative thing, you know, not obviously, and but 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.800 being mindful of I was like, but I totally understand 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.600 it's your movie, and like you wrote this and you're 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.320 so passionate about it. I just like, can we This 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.559 might not make sense to like, I don't know. And 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.720 so I think I think it's okay to be able 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.040 to to kind of have that voice because for so 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.520 long in the beginning, I'm like I never said anything 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:18.680 and then I just did it because I was just 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.360 like the puppet that went to the place. But now 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:21.719 it's like, well, no, I feel like I've got a 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.440 little bit more insight to want to like have some 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:26.480 you know ideas. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.640 Yeah, I mean, as long as it's done respectfully. I'm 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.400 always respectful. But for me, it's like if I'm writing 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.400 something that I'm writing, then that's mine if I come 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.400 on board, like like this movie that John Gunn wrote, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.960 Unbreakable Boy, I didn't come in with any ideas of 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.319 like I'm going to rewrite your stuff. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.839 Oh no, no, no, for sure, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:47.079 that's for sure. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.480 Writing or take over other other people's stuff. It's like 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.160 if there's they're definitely collaboration, like, hey, maybe maybe this 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.120 would be more fun this way. But I'm always respectful 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:57.760 because I direct as well, and I would never want 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.520 somebody kind of taking over my stuff. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:09:59.840 So for sure. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.719 Uh. But as a director, I'm also very collaborative, So 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.600 if it's a better idea, I'm all for, you know, uh, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.520 a very collaborative medium for sure, you know, and as 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.280 a director and as a writer, and I and I 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.840 love actors who you know, if if they say something 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.280 that's more interesting than what I wrote, than great, and 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.480 if my writing is working, then let's go back to that, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.000 you know, so full rewrite. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:27.559 So no, that's where that's where it's a little too much. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:28.560 I don't see you mean that type. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.599 I know mine was like and yeah, I think she 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.440 would actually maybe cry here instead. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.160 I know, you also play the role of dad. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.520 You're a full time reigning champ as a dad and 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.079 when you're doing because this is a really I've had 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.000 to put myself in a very emotional spot. I'm a 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.240 mom of three, jan as a mom of three, So 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.880 the storyline is and in a lot of ways too, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.280 there's like this, I don't know how much I'm allowed 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.520 to say, but there is now but without the spoilers, yes, yeah, yeah, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.240 but you know, like there is this like undertone of 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.160 alcoholism or addiction, which also hits home to me too. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.800 So when you're doing this and you're a dad, are 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:16.720 you is it. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.200 Does it play a really important role then on your 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.240 dad role, does it start to work its way into 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.160 the way that you parent seeing this story unfold? Because 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.440 it feels to me from what you've described already, it's 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.920 a pretty anointed story that it's made its way from 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.880 pastor pharmacy pastor of pharmacy, is that what it's called 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.840 in New York City all the way to the big 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.280 screen and now we're all able to watch it. I 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.520 mean that's a lot of stories. Never make it past 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.640 a guy saying in Aisle five, I've got a book 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.880 and you show read. Yeah, So does it feel then 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.600 when you're taking on this, you know, such a mastermind 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.720 behind all of this too, and working all the pieces 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.679 and bringing it to life. Do you see that fold 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.360 over into the way that you parent and the way 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.160 that you're taking in life and people's I mean to me, 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.640 it feels like a life changing kind of movie to 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:04.280 be a part of. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.480 Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. It's 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.600 life imitating art, art imitating life. So for me, like 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.000 the reason why I was I read this book and 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.280 connected with it because Scott Lorette, who it's based on, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.559 was a dad who felt like he was failing miserably 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.000 and didn't know how to parent his autistic son and 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.520 felt like he's he's not doing a good job. And 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.880 then he turns to alcohol, and he turns to addiction 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.800 because he's just like lost. And then he realizes his 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.320 son has more to teach him about love and life 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.480 than he could possibly teach him. And so there's this 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.160 wonderful give and take when you have kids where you're 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.640 there to guide them, but there's there's lessons they teach 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.559 you along the way as well. So I find it's 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.199 the same with film, Like I was inspired by that 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.280 being a dad inspired by a man who is resilient 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.560 enough to face his demons and then and then become 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.280 a better parent and realize that his son taught him 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.520 these wonderful things about life. And then I look at 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.560 that the same way with movies too, you know, Like 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.440 so that movie I was inspired by, and then as 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.480 the movie was made, it also inspired me. You'd like 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:12.920 to be a better dead. So like I try to 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.440 be more patient and try to be more in the 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.320 moment with my kids because of the lessons I learned 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.839 from that film. But I find that with all characters, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.080 you know, you bring a lot of yourself to it, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.520 and then you also learn a lot from it. And 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.880 so as I'm doing a movie, it's it's pretty much 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.760 a give and take in that respect as well. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.240 So I come from well, I divorced a co parent 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.960 to kids with my ex. You have done a beautiful job. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.880 I mean you welcomed Jenny in from the fires, right, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.400 that's the remember seeing that and I follow Jenny. We 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.160 actually do a podcast together too, And how you guys 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.640 have co parented is a beautiful thing. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.400 What you know, there's I. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.360 Have days where it's great, days where it's really hard. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.199 What is your best advice for co parenting parents out 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.640 there when it gets tough, look. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.720 Far for me to give advice. It's everyone has their 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.640 own journey. I got to a really great place with 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.480 Jenny recently, you know, and we had our ups and 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.400 we had our downs. And there's the hard thing about 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.880 co parent thing I think is, you know, you have 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:22.160 different ideologies and different beliefs sometimes than the other co parent, 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.240 and so how do you how do you navigate that? 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:30.480 You know? But I find that communication is definitely key. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.440 It's hard because sometimes you're like, I don't want to 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.280 talk to them, but like you you have to. Communication 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:41.240 is always better than texting or you know, an email 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.520 because there's a lot that you know, you can read 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.960 into in an email and a text. So so just 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.640 verbally talking is good and letting go and being being 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.320 there for the kids and like for us, you know, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.760 we got to a really beautiful place recently, and like 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.440 I consider her a really good friend. Like she just 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.480 literally texted me the other day, no today, actually, she 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.560 texted me said, hey, when's your movie coming? I said Friday. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.760 She said, good luck with it. She said, I want 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.200 me to post on social media, and I said I'd 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.840 be wonderful, So like I support her, she supports me. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.320 We have this wonderful support for our kids. And like 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.080 I love her husband, like he's. 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.720 He's the best. He's so funny, Dave is great. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.000 My kids love him and I'm so thankful for him 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.880 and thankful that my kids have him in their lives. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.400 And you know, I always looking at more people to love. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.040 You know, right, Yeah, and we have to be with 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.640 them too, because I'm like, if I didn't have kids 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.480 with my ex, like I would never wanted to speak 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.000 to him, but it's like we don't have a choice, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.640 Like you have to speak, so then you have to 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.720 figure out the communication, you know, to make it best 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.000 for everybody involved. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.320 You know, what you try to remember is you got 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.480 like we came together Jenny and I because of love 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.240 and had a relationship and like that love can transfer 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.040 into a beautiful friendship and support for one another and 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:57.120 I'm grateful for it. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:04.200 So that yeah, yeah, and now you have Jack who's two. Yeah, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:05.560 and when did Jack turn. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.800 To Jack turned is two and a half and he 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.400 has the best mom. Lily is such a wonderful mom 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.080 to him. And yeah, he's just so talkative. He talks 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.480 so much and he's and he's my first son, so 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.640 like there's lessons in that too. I grew up with 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.800 three sisters and then I had three daughters, so I 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.840 was always surrounded with like feminine energy, and now I 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.920 have a son, so there's a lot to be learned 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.760 from him and to teach him as well. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.440 I always say my son teaches me more about myself 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.960 in to day than I could ever like learn otherwise. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.680 I mean, he is is Jack all boy? Like is 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.600 he just crazy? Or is he because he's flying solo 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:44.320 most of the time? 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:50.280 Sensitive wonderful? Like he literally last week pulled the chair 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.040 out for his mom and said, Mom, you sit here. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:53.360 He's two and a half, And I was like, what 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.480 a little gentleman like you know, never too young to 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.520 teach them to be a gentleman for sure. 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.960 Do you feel like you appreciate it differently this time around, 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.800 being that he's kind of by himself most of the time, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.840 or like I know, we each had a break into kids, 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.680 so we have two older kids and then had a baby, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.720 like a pretty big gap. I'd say, I got a 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.240 fifteen month old, she's got a twenty month old. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.040 Yeah, so I realize how fast it goes Yeah. I mean, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.480 my oldest is twenty seven, and then my middle is 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.479 twenty one, and my youngest daughter is eighteen. So I 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.199 know that's the blink of an eye, and so I 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.000 try to really and even with Jacket two and a half, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.640 like the last two and a half years have flown by, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.200 so like I'm trying to like slow it down, enjoy 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.280 the moments, even the hard ones. I mean two and 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.720 a half, you know they could be toddlers, But I 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.879 joy those moments too because I know, I know that 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.240 it'll be in the blink of an eye, it'll be 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.880 five and then ten and then fifteen. And I look 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.800 at my eighteen and twenty one and twenty seven year 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.439 old and what I wouldn't give to go back and 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.240 have the two and I have year old versions of them, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.280 and you know, it's so sweet. And you look at 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.040 pictures and you're like, how did you go buy so fast? 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:22.040 So I do look at that and go cherish every moment. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.040 And that's part of the message in this movie too. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.359 The Unbratable Boy is like to live in the present 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.399 moment because Austin, who you know, the character is based 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.960 on the main character who's autistic. He he just enjoys. 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.359 He can make even the sad moments happy, you know, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:41.919 And he could have a milkshake and it could be 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.600 the best milkshake he's ever had, and it is because 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.239 that's the best milkshake he's having in that moment. And 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.199 so I look at that, I'm like, if I, you know, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.920 to look through his eyes and be able to live 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.960 through that beauty and gratitude for the present moment, I 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.720 want some of that. So like, it's such an inspiring 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.520 message in that movie to walk. 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:01.919 Away with absolutely. I know. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.000 I'm always trying to do that, like live through my 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.280 kid's eyes, because it's like they're just seeing these things 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.960 for the first time or experiencing them, and you know, 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.760