WEBVTT - 2024_Podcasts_Mick Shots_Video_9_5 Mick Shots.mp3 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:06.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:09.840 Cowboys. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.960 This is nick shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:21.280 and the official Dallas Cowboys apt Now here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:26.079 Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.560 Well, you just never know what each day we'll bring 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.000 here on Mickshotz. Who will be the surprise visitor on 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:39.560 this day, a Thursday. Here inside the SWBC podcast studio, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.600 this is mix shots Bill Jones, Everson Walls, Mickey Spagnola 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.639 with football players on a football field. I can hear 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.600 you saying that, Bill, that's exactly right. We're not indoors today. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.160 It's a great day. In fact, the coach told me 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.680 it looks like Cleveland out there. It was overcast, so 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.120 let's go play some football. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.280 I think the sun's out now. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.120 Yeah, that's that was about an hour ago. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:04.240 Land. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.920 They had some beautiful days out there, beautiful days. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:08.559 Does Cleveland get a bad rap? 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:09.280 It does? 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:10.319 Yeh yeah. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.000 But you know, when you fly in the first thing 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:18.959 you see is rusty, shut down warehouses and industrial plants. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.039 You know, it's not a good look when you fly in. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.720 But once you land you know, it's it's not bad. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:24.759 Plus you have to look. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.160 Forward to the I Can Go Hall of Fame. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.039 That really brought a lot up since I was there 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.679 before that, but after that they put that in there. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.600 And which is very close to the stadium. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.880 It is, and the lake's kind of pretty it kind 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.160 of it depends. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.240 That depends on the time of the year. Yeah, that depends. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.959 I used to go there. It's been I haven't been 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:51.000 to Cleveland in twenty three years doing Rangers different and 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.120 I would jog by where the stadium is now, by 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.280 the lake and stuff and downtown Cleveland, and you know, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:58.720 I kind of like Cleveland. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.640 So Cleveland long as it's not December or jail. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:02.760 It wasn't. It was baseball. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.760 Well, my first game there because the Giants cut me 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.919 with half the season to go. So I went there 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:17.000 around October headed to the game home game. You know, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.320 I wasn't gonna play much at all, And as soon 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.280 as I hit the highway, they had lake effects snow 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:30.880 and so everyone was at a standstill, and me and 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.200 Nick Saban were late to the game, and I'm like, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:36.560 I had never heard of. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.359 That term, you know, lake affection, lake effects. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.560 No, I had never heard of that term. I thought 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:42.920 they were just making some crap up. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.359 And it was just like early November October. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.760 This is late October. It was late October, and there 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.959 was were late. Nick was running around like he was crazy, 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.519 trying to put his socks on everything because we missed 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.720 one ups. We just missed all the ones and we 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.799 caught introduction and uh man, that was just a and I. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.480 Got fined two hundred bucks. I'm like, you know, I 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:05.359 can't get a break here. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.280 This is my first So okay, so do you think 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:09.160 Saban got fined? 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:10.560 I don't know. 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:11.799 And who could afford it more? 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:17.560 Now he's gonna don't even know my name. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.919 Well, here we are. We're now three days away from 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.239 the start of a new season, and uh there's excitement 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.560 building with each passing day, Mickey. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.080 And we'll make sure we keep an eye keep an 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.160 eye on my back so in case somebody surprises. 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.040 The end of the show. Yesterday, stephen A. Smith made 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.840 his way. He was taking the tour and he saw 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.800 Everson and Lo and behold Everson and Steven O. Stephen 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:48.680 A go way back. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.880 He got history. Uh huh, and uh I still hate him. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:57.360 A surprise, No he's I don't want to put that 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.480 out and me and then we got along real well. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:04.200 He spent an hour with Jerry the owner. Didn't were interview. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.000 He and Bernard. You know Bernard was the kitchen and 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.640 now he and Bernold they have a little history. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.280 I got some New York boys and both of New York, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.360 and they had a little They knew some guys that 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.159 both went to Winston Salem, you know HBCU, well Steve 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:19.040 when they went to school. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.680 So yeah, they let him sit in the training table 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:22.559 and have lunch. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:23.839 You should, did you should? 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:28.200 Did you watch the interview? I watched it last night. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.560 A good interview with Jerry. It was an hour long. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:33.400 It was an hour. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.800 I got to bed late last night, after after work. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.560 That was what I watched before going to bed last 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:44.520 last night. I know, No, it was good. It was 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.880 a good interview. In fact, Jerry was highly complimentary of 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.480 stephen A's questions. You've done your research. Yeah, right, they 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:52.120 need to stop. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:54.040 They need to stop. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.479 We all know they got this little thing going. They 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.880 really need to stop. Yeah, Jerry Odd, that's what you call. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.159 Jerry just goes back to tech shram. If you're talking 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.520 about me, good or bad as long as you're talking 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.839 about me, right, And Jerry gave him credit for the 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.359 Cowboys high profile. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.600 He's part of part of the reason the Cowboys are 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.400 worth what they're worth. Right, So there you go, and 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.400 stephen A is almost worth that much himself. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.520 Got once he once he got rid of the extra 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.600 load walls. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.200 Where do you go? Way back with him? 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.080 This was around the time I donated my kidney, because 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.360 so it was around oh five, it was five first 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:41.359 and uh, yeah, I don't know how Mike Davis my 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.680 business partner, he was my agent at the time, and 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.280 I don't know how I even got the gig. Well, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.720 nick I was flying to New York every week going 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.880 up there to do the show, The stephen A. Smith Show, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.040 and we were on with a couple of other guys 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.640 and uh, you know how it is one of those 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.560 new shows radio it was on. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.720 Yes, probably find it on YouTube. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.200 So you can definitely find it. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.480 And you know, there were times when you just run 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.480 out of content and we just start talking trash each other, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:11.039 and that that. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.200 Was the most exciting part of the show. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:14.520 Pretty good stuff there. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:16.760 But we had fun. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.040 But I think Stephen they got upset with somebody behind 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.680 the scenes, and once he started opening up his mouth, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.400 the whole thing was going. H But what the best 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.720 thing about it was around the time I was gonna 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.440 donate my kidney, I was trying. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.000 To keep the secret. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.640 We were trying to keep the secret until Sean Ron's 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.760 son just can't keep his mouth closed. And so once 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.320 he released that, people started asking me about it. Before 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.720 I caught the plane to go to New York because 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.760 they was on ESPN dot com. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.800 So I go there and I'm like, Steven. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.000 I don't want to talk about this now, because our 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.080 plan was to make sure to make it happen. But 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.400 He's like, you're gonna talk about you know, in that voice, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.080 and so we ended up. Really that was the first 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:03.680 time we public league aired My intent to donate my 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.000 kidney was on that show, so we got that history going. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.640 And by the way, he moonlighted on us last night. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.440 Too, I saw something. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.760 What was going on there, man, I was just you know, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.320 up at the place, you know, up at the Cowboys Club, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.440 the Cowboy Club, chilling you just you just. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.080 The show, spreading my knowledge. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.080 He was on our old Legend show. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.480 It used to be called the Legend Show. So you're 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.240 no longer a legend. You're a cross talk. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:33.400 He's a cross talk. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.600 It was fine. Nate had me fired up. He was, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:37.400 you know, Nate man. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.760 When we started talking about the team together, we you know, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.600 we really started sounding off. And yeah, pretty much what 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.160 I was saying here and those things that we talked 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.880 about in here was very prevalent on the interview. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.800 By the way, I don't think anybody was as excited 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.000 to see stephen A in the building than Nate Newton. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.040 Well, I have something to say about that. 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.239 You know, he walks by, he wasn't even gonna speak 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.680 to us, but hardly trying to sneak by. And remember Nate, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.160 Nate early earlier, Yeah, what's up? I thought it was 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.160 gonna come in right. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.640 No, no, they gave us the cold shoulders and then 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.680 stephen A. Smith shows up and all of a sudden 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:16.280 on the show. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.000 Come on, man, it is that too predictable? Come on, Nate, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.200 do better, man. You know we love you boy, We 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.400 love you first, stephen They is definitely second. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.840 All right, enough, stephen A. You didn't like the Cowboys anyway? Right, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.600 that's right, So Mickey, get us up to speed. What 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.720 the coach said at this press conference, what we need 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.079 to know as we start this Thursday. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.920 You know what, I thought it was interesting. He didn't 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.760 answer the question, But there was a second part to it. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:48.320 Remember yesterday when we started talking about the possibility of 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.439 Trayvon Diggs following Amari Cooper, I brought that up to you, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.720 and so the question came up, and obviously he wasn't 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.560 going to give you any thoughts on how they're going 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.000 to play ski, but part of the question was is 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.080 Trayvon healthy enough just being his first game is going 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.440 to play since September seventeenth last year to do that, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:18.720 And he said health is no problem that he would 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:23.480 be good enough to be able to do something like that. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.000 So from a health standpoint. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.640 Well, I mean they said the same thing about Michael 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:28.439 Gallup last year. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.079 Right, Yeah, I don't think they understood. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.360 They understood, but right I think they you know, like 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.839 like any player you gamble on, Hey man, I hope 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:37.280 you're ready. 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.360 You know, we did everything we could. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.960 We fixed your knee up, you fix up your your ligaments, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.120 and so you know, I hope everything's gonna be okay. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.720 I'm hoping that he's able to ramp up sooner. Talking 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:48.600 about term Steele. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.920 Right, yeah, he said he feels much better. Yeah, yeah 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:53.800 than last year. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:58.760 Yes, absolutely, but he wasn't talking about not feeling well, like. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.040 I'm ready to go, right, So you're ready to go 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.720 until it's time to go, that's right. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.959 So you know, I'm just hoping that Trayvon is is 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.880 all the way healthy, as healthy as he can be. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:13.200 He didn't start really full practice until when in training. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:13.920 Oh, it was. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:20.079 Easily midway least the first two weeks and he had 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.240 not practice and it was basically that the second rams 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.599 joint practice where he had the interception was where. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.040 Right, And I think that was watching from afar. Finally 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.800 back in pads, actually taking part in team and Mike 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.240 points out that's not much time that today will be 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.120 a very important practice for him because they'll be in 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.840 pads and they'll have competitive periods, so he get a 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.080 better gauge of maybe just as. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.000 You talked about that, that's close proximity from just getting 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.520 in pads to now I'm going to be following the 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:55.559 Mary Cooper all around. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.319 And remember how Trayvon got hurt. It wasn't during the game, No, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.600 it was practice last year, and so you can understand 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.559 why you're taking baby steps as we. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.959 Go along and now, and that's why I'm taking baby 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.720 steps mentally in regards to thinking that he can do. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.840 So it'll be interesting what they decide or if they'll say, Okay, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.600 kayln Carson, have at it, big boy. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:17.960 Well let's look at this. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.160 Uh, the fact that the Browns, we know they're going 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.440 to run the ball, but the fact that we're not 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:29.080 necessarily respecting their running game with Chub being out, maybe 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.760 we could expend the safety to you know, kind of 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:33.600 keep an eye out. 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:34.560 Yeah, for. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:37.640 I was, which one are you going to keep an 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:38.600 eye off for a Cooper? 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.000 And somebody's got somebody. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.800 By the way, Both those guys are We've always talked 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.560 about Amari and his route running. Cherry Judy is known 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.679 for his crisp route running as well. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:57.560 And speak and and Jordan Lewis basically you know we 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.320 we say it Cooper's route run. He said, he's got 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.520 to be one of the top five receivers I've ever 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.400 seen running routes. Yes, that's how good he is. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.880 And it's not just that you see it on some 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:18.920 of the preview shots. They're talking about Cooper his ability 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.640 to catch the ball, in the crowd is special. His 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:27.480 ability to make tough catches is special, even with the 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:32.760 dB on his back. His ability to concentrate in that manner, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.360 you know, you gotta put it. I put him higher 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.040 than top five in regards to especially in the game today. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.320 I wouldn't say history, but in the game today he 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:41.960 goes to me. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:42.680 He reminds me. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.960 Of old school players that are just able to be 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.320 pure receivers and no matter what's going on around him 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.720 blittny cough, guys like that, I'm going to catch this ball, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.800 whatever you're doing. My concentrations on that ball, and I'm 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.920 going to not just catch it, I'm gonna get my 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.640 feet down and make football player. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:00.800 You know. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.240 The thing I noticed about his route running was that 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:09.400 he could make cuts without losing speed. The speed stayed 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.520 the same, and that's got to be problem for a 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.560 cornerback because if he gets a step on you, then 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.079 you're probably not catching up. 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.760 He reminds me when you think about guys like him, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.600 he doesn't beat you with speed, right, he beats you 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:29.160 with precision. Yeah, Steve Larger makes every route look the 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.120 same if he wants to. When he comes off the 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.240 line of scrimmage, there's no tail. The wide receivers sometimes 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.520 they give you a tail. They'll come off a certain way, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.280 trying to fake you into this and that, and then 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.800 you can start to figure it out after a while 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.200 with guys like Larging every route, when he comes off 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.560 the line, it looks exactly the same, So you really 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.040 have to concentrate on keeping an eye. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.000 On him and everything he does. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.840 And after while you get messma rides because his feet 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.000 are going the same speed all the time, and he 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.560 will cut off of that same speed. And that's what 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.680 you're talking about when he makes his cut. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:09.000 Not that he's so fast, but that he does precise 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.600 I mean, Michael wasn't the speediest wide receiver out there. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:15.480 Jimmy would admit that, right. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.560 I remember when Jimmy first got here and he saw 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.040 his wide receiver core and he. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.000 Goes, where's the speed? 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.120 I have more speed at Miami I left behind than 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:25.960 right here with this. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.560 Cowboys drafted Alexander Wright. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.440 Yeah, and got speed, but didn't know. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.880 As you talk about Mike coming off the same way. Uh, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:44.400 it's the preciseness in that Drew Pearson same thing. There's 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.800 a reason that got Drew and Mike got behind people 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.520 with no speed because of the preciseness of their route. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:51.720 They never changed anything. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.680 You're waiting on the move, you don't get a move 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.800 when you when you don't get a move, then they've 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.280 got they make the move. And so that's why the 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.840 precision of im off the line of scrimmage is something 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.520 that most good wide receivers are. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.640 You know, you look at what Cleveland has the wide 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.640 receiver position. I was comparing with what they had last 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.800 year and really the addition of Jerry Judy. They didn't 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:19.080 have that second receiver on their roster really last year. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.440 If you look just at catches last year in fifteen games, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:28.040 Cooper had seventy two catches. Elijah Moore was their second 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:34.720 leading receivers as a wide receiver and he had fifty 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.600 nine receptions. In djoku, they're tied in had eighty one receptions, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:43.040 so he led them in receptions. But they as far 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:47.320 as wide receivers go, they had those two Cooper and 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.160 more and then David Bell was another guy that at 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:54.040 fourteen just fourteen catches, and so they have actually added 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.640 to their arsenal and Jerry Judy is not replacing anybody. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.480 He's being added to the arsenal that they didn't have 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.120 last year. And this is a team with five quarterbacks 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:04.560 went eleven and six a year. 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.680 Ago, right, so, and one was kind of coming off 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:09.520 his couch. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.120 Yeah, Joe Flacco. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:12.280 Yeah. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.960 So, and then you look at Watson. He had six 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.520 starts last year. They went five and one in his 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.240 starts and. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.440 The other one, which is amazing because he numbers weren't 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:23.200 I mean. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.120 Just sixty one percent completion percentage for eleven hundred and 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.760 fifteen yards as you've mentioned, six point five yards per attempt, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.880 and he had four picks and seven touchdown passes. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:34.600 Yeah. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.240 So if you just try and take away the mistakes 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.920 that they made, you're looking at a team obviously led 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.920 by hello a defense. Yes, exactly, That's what it comes 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.120 down to. Like Spac said, the numbers weren't that great. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:53.000 On their offense. They not only played five quarterbacks last year, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.880 they lost arguably is the best running back in the 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.520 league in Nick Chubb after two games. And they also 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.600 had their left tackle Jedrick Wills, only played eight games 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.240 last year and their right tackle, Jack Conklin, only played 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.680 one game last year, so they had they were playing 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.520 backup tackles for the majority of the season and backup 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.840 running back in five quarterbacks last year, and so they 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.440 had to rely on their defense. And that's why Kevin 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.720 Stefanski was the Coach of the Year last year is 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.639 because of what they had to deal with on their offense. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.920 I heard Nate Newton bring up last night. We're talking 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.600 about cross talk. Nate Newton brought up the Ravens, And 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.600 you know, you guys know I've always brought up the 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.359 Ravens when I talk about a team that's just stubborn 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.159 in their own defense because their team has such a 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.600 good defense, they don't care who they go into the 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.320 game with. Their defense is going to give them a 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.720 shot to win the game. That's what I want from here. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.760 That's what I've always wanted. I've said it two or 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.080 three years and ago. That's what I've always wanted here. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.399 I don't care who we go in with defensively, we 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:54.440 have to control the game. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.960 We did that a little bit with Cooper Rush at 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:57.440 one point. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.560 We did it for five games if I'm not mistaken, 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.400 But you know, I think we need to have more 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:03.320 of that mentality. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.560 Hey, Mickey, you look back at the Super Bowl teams 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.200 in the nineties and the defense controlled the games right then. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.879 Right, And and I think that's one of the unknowns 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.239 of this defense. You know, has it improved, right? 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:18.560 You know? 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.199 Can you stop the run against teams that want to 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.879 run the football, right, which they didn't do. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.200 That's philosophy, right, yeah, contract. 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.720 And that's why I like seeing on the depth chart 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.200 that there were three linebackers line. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:34.720 Yeah. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.840 So you've got to be able to have a defense 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.280 that can stop the offense no matter what they're trying 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:40.560 to do. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.000 No matter what they're trying to do. 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.760 And now that also comes from preparation and also comes 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.040 you know, and they talked about last night as well. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.080 I mean, you have people out there calling out your 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.560 play sometimes before the balls even snapped. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.119 We should be that defense. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.000 I mean, I'm sure every offense has a tail, every 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.480 offense has a page that they have. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:01.040 Sure Zimmas told. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.000 Them, like, when this happens, then we all need to 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.600 yell out whatever needs to happen. But adjustments we need 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.560 to make. So this team needs to have not just 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.679 one player that can do that, but there needs to 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.320 be a core of players that would recognize right away 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:16.280 what's going on. 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.840 He spoke about the Giants doing that. I was there. 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.920 I saw it. The guys know what's going on. Call 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.560 Bank's gonna call it out, Pepper Johnson's going to see it. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.879 They're gonna pass it over to Lt. Lennad marsh is 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.160 already there and what's stopping them. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.480 It's a cerebral game. 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.040