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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, June.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is

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<v Speaker 2>guy who witnessed a truckload of coughs overturn on the highway.

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<v Speaker 3>On the way in this morning. Luckily there is no

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<v Speaker 3>congestion for over eight hours. JP Chacker, welcome in. It

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<v Speaker 3>is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by dream Finders Homes, official

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<v Speaker 3>the off season program. Vacation begins in about an hour

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<v Speaker 3>from right now. We'll be back in late July. JP

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<v Speaker 3>Shadick Jeff Flogaman on ten to next lam Jaguars dot Com,

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars YouTube. Good afternoon, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>How's your congestion?

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<v Speaker 3>Clear as a bell? Apparently about the last show because

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<v Speaker 3>it means that there's gonna be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a break for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know this is the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time of a good break. Well, there's nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 3>a great break, but this is the time of year

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<v Speaker 3>too that the players really need to take a break

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<v Speaker 3>from a mental standpoint, not from a physical standpoint. The

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<v Speaker 3>training still has to go on, but you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to step away for a while to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of to get ready to focus in and lock in

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<v Speaker 3>for a season, because I mean that's it's incredibly demanding.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people kind of don't understand the mental grind.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean people think that playing football is easy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just you're being an athlete. Well, try dealing with about

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen different injuries throughout the course of about six months

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<v Speaker 3>and trying to perform at your best level. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard. It's hard, and it takes a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>mental concentration and mental strength to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's only one way that you can prepare yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's to get the mind free and clear and

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<v Speaker 3>refreshed once you roll back up in here and then

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<v Speaker 3>from the physical part of that coming up. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>just be sitting on the couch eating cheetos the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are days that are that's okay, it's called

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<v Speaker 3>cheat daye Yes, I don't want to say cheetos. But

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<v Speaker 3>but I think also part of part of this time

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<v Speaker 3>of getting away is that you have days that you

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<v Speaker 3>break the discipline to treat yourself to something nice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a reward you know, and and I had I

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<v Speaker 3>had one day a week that I always used to

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<v Speaker 3>do though really when I when I played during when

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<v Speaker 3>I was training in the off season, and that I

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<v Speaker 3>would always pick one day to have something.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't great for you, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I probably had more than just one a week,

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<v Speaker 3>but I tried to keep it to one a week,

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<v Speaker 3>and and it was good because I mean it just again,

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of allowed you to just be human, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to the Rocky movie, right when Drago.

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<v Speaker 3>This machine preparing and no pizza, no burgers, no ice cream.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, Wait a minute. You got to have

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of fun. And that's why Rocky was

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<v Speaker 3>able to beat him by the way he had a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of well, he trained in Siberia. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the tough way. He went to the scenic rout to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Yes, you got to be able to you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. You got to have a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of mental fun through the whole process and physical fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to the off season coming up here in

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit. But the final mandatory mini camp

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<v Speaker 3>practice was today. It was reduced by the time. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a great crowd out here. By the way, on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 3>fans were invited to come out. Doesn't happen. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>ever remember it happened for a mandatory mini Can.

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<v Speaker 1>We get a number on that?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I think capacity I think is right

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<v Speaker 3>at too, But it felt like there were a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people standing around too now.

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<v Speaker 3>Which was cool to see. Which if you made it

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<v Speaker 3>out here, thanks for coming. It was a great day

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<v Speaker 3>of practice. Today was shortened a little bit, but the

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<v Speaker 3>highlight today logs. You always say you look for Travis

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter first thing I look at. You saw him on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides of the football today in a single practice

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time. Yeah, And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>this was the only time that it's actually at least

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<v Speaker 3>Liam Cohen said on the McAfee show today that it

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<v Speaker 3>is the first time he's done both in one practice.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was the first time for sure that we

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<v Speaker 1>had seen. I wasn't for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's good to hear that because you and I

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<v Speaker 3>were standing there and we were who are we We're

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<v Speaker 3>talking to Joe cow We're talking to Joe Cower and

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<v Speaker 3>we're all kind of shooting the breeze, and then all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, we look out there and we're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, you pointed it out right, He said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I hate to interrupt the conversation, but

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Hunters now wearing a white jersey, because he started

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<v Speaker 3>the practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Out wearing a teal jersey, which is offensive color.

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<v Speaker 3>He was running routes and doing everything on offense and

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<v Speaker 3>then he flipped it over to the white jersey today

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<v Speaker 3>and so yeah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fun to watch. There was a lot of reps,

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<v Speaker 3>more reps today for the twos and threes today than

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<v Speaker 3>I think the ones. Yesterday was a day of a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of reps for the one. But it was fun

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<v Speaker 3>watching twelve on offense and on defense. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of work to be done with his

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<v Speaker 3>football team. Travis has got a lot of work to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not anywhere near a finished project, and nor

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<v Speaker 3>should it look like a finished project at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>There's still time and uh, they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 3>have a really good training camp. When you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>new system, new coaches, new foundation, everything needs to come

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<v Speaker 3>together in time, and I can't wait to see it

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<v Speaker 3>come together. Another thing I liked to see today was

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Thomas Junior back on the practice field after a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a scare on Winds. Went down on

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<v Speaker 3>his shoulder, walked back on the field yesterday, didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>back into the work, but then it was back out

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<v Speaker 3>there and apparently working full today. That's good. When he

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<v Speaker 3>went down, there was kind of this collective gasp. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess you could say it practice. And at first when

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<v Speaker 3>I saw him down, I was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>is that a knee, you know, because that's your first concern.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that something you know, crazy happens, non contact or contact,

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<v Speaker 3>it related, doesn't matter. And he got up and then

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<v Speaker 3>you could tell that he was walking and had his

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<v Speaker 3>right arm kind of held tight to his right side,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, okay, it looks like maybe an arm

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<v Speaker 3>or shoulder or something. He comes out, he went inside

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<v Speaker 3>for a bit, came out and he's kind of moving

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<v Speaker 3>around a little bit. So very encouraging that he was

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<v Speaker 3>out there practice today, you know. And if there's a

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<v Speaker 3>list of guys as far as don't get hurt on

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<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars roster, Trevor number one, yeah, quarterback, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>see what happens when that's happened for the most important

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<v Speaker 3>position that there is on a foot ball team. Travis

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter number two, just because I think Travis represents hope,

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<v Speaker 3>represents hope, and change. Brian Thomas because he's a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 3>football player. And then you go down to like Josh

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<v Speaker 3>and Trayvon. I think is as the next two guys,

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<v Speaker 3>just thinking for the perspective of a guy that you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't list right there, I know, Wait a minute, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not in the I'm not on his list. I'm not guys,

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<v Speaker 3>a kid be injured, wait a minute. You know, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody else can get her, and I'm just kidding right

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<v Speaker 3>right now. And then the other positive of the mini

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<v Speaker 3>camp is complete and there were no injuries to speak

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<v Speaker 3>of of significance or really anything that I saw myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and that's you know, the goal always of

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<v Speaker 3>the off season is to get better number one and

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<v Speaker 3>probably one B is to stay healthy. Get any into

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<v Speaker 3>training camp as healthy as you possibly can.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, so I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Some objectives will reach and the work again, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of work done, but there's still plenty of work

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<v Speaker 3>to do with this football team. We'll get to the

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<v Speaker 3>Jags defense coming up in just a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 3>what you saw this offseason from that group, new scheme,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of new faces in the back end of

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<v Speaker 3>that defense. But we continue on tintin xl Amjaguars dot

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<v Speaker 3>Com and Jaguars YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hour with the

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<v Speaker 3>offense and you know, a lot of focus. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback there, he spoke today. We'll hear from him

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<v Speaker 3>coming up in just a little bit. But it's all

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<v Speaker 3>about how he handles the offense, how he executes, how

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<v Speaker 3>healthy he is. He was wearing a black sleeve on

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<v Speaker 3>his throwing arm today he said, just some general swords

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<v Speaker 3>and yesterday, Yeah, nothing to really be worried about. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is obviously a huge season for him coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got the contract and everything moving ahead, but a

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<v Speaker 3>new offense, new coaching staff. He's got to start taking

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<v Speaker 3>steps forward and you know, the next month or so

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<v Speaker 3>to get ready for training camp or for him too well, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in a big way he needs to take

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<v Speaker 1>a step up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is at the point of a quarterback's

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<v Speaker 3>career where you expect to see big gains in his game.

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<v Speaker 3>The concerning thing to me is that day two of

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<v Speaker 3>Mini camp was not very good yesterday. Yeah, I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like the defense had a better day on which I'm

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<v Speaker 3>okay with the defense having good moments, but I thought

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<v Speaker 3>Trevor didn't have a good day. And even Liam Collins

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<v Speaker 3>said he had a lot of balls on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, you can't have that in a non

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<v Speaker 3>contact practice. It shouldn't happen well. And look, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot that goes into the performance of the quarterback. The

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<v Speaker 3>performance around him also has to be good to allow

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<v Speaker 3>him to be good. But his feet have got to

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<v Speaker 3>get better in certain situations. There was one throw in

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<v Speaker 3>particular in a red zone drill where I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even adjust his feet to make a throw and

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<v Speaker 3>the ball sailed on him. I mean, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>step into the throws and adjust your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>And he knows that.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a huge factor with Liam Cohne's offense, and

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<v Speaker 3>he talked extensively about it ways back in the off

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<v Speaker 3>season and he realizes it and he's got it to

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<v Speaker 3>continue to work at it and continue to improve.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are.

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<v Speaker 3>Certain quarterbacks that can throw at any which way you want,

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<v Speaker 3>like Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, his feet aren't perfect all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's got that innate ability just to throw it

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<v Speaker 3>from different positions in different angles. That's not Trevor. Trevor

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<v Speaker 3>I think is a quarterback that Look, he's got to

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<v Speaker 3>be disciplined with his feet to get the best result,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And that's just how it is, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>got to continue to work at it and he will.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a great work ethic. And also his receivers

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<v Speaker 3>need to know where they are need to be as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some moments.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a little confusion as well yesterday going back

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<v Speaker 3>to yesterday to where it looked like they weren't clean

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<v Speaker 3>on assignment knowledge, which is you know that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a lot of new players on that

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we've we've talked about all these receivers and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the running back room and everything. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>just let me jump in right there when you mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>the running back room, that may be one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most interesting position groups to watch going into training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also when we get down to the first

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<v Speaker 3>game and what roles are going to be earned and

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<v Speaker 3>will it impact the roster, you know, could there be

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<v Speaker 3>any changes there because you've got a talented room. Yes

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<v Speaker 3>you do. And the reality is is that that room,

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<v Speaker 3>once you get past a couple spots, special teams contributions has.

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<v Speaker 1>To be a factor. Well, you look at what they

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<v Speaker 1>have now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've got two rookies that were drafted, got

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<v Speaker 3>Tank Bigsby, Etn. I mean, you got four guys right

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<v Speaker 3>there that are really good football players as far as

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<v Speaker 3>running backs go. But is there a special team's capability there?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some you might think yay, some you might

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<v Speaker 3>think nay. So I think that's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>really And I say that because I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>very talented room, and I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting to watch how the roles are earned out

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<v Speaker 3>of that room. Etn's getting about six and a half

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<v Speaker 3>this year million in his final year of his rookie contract,

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<v Speaker 3>the fifth year option season. Of course, Tank Bigsby in

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<v Speaker 3>year number three out of Auburn. But I think the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that really stands out about the new guys is

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<v Speaker 3>the speed a Schultoton especially has that I mean explosive,

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<v Speaker 3>take it to the house speed from anywhere. If he

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<v Speaker 3>can hang on to the faseball. Powerful and he's strong

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<v Speaker 3>and put the one area that he's got to work

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<v Speaker 3>gone ball security. Ball security. I mean, if there was

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<v Speaker 3>really the only knock in his game coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia Tech was ball security. I think if there were

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<v Speaker 3>no issues with ball security, then he might have been

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<v Speaker 3>talked about with the elite running backs that went in

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<v Speaker 3>the first round and then soon after. So that's something

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<v Speaker 3>that he has to work on. And earlier today, I

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<v Speaker 3>was listening to Tom Coughlin on a radio show and

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<v Speaker 3>he was talking about how he worked with Tiki Barber

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<v Speaker 3>and solving some of those ball security issues with Tiki,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think the coaching staff is working very hard

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<v Speaker 3>with him as well, and it's something that he has

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<v Speaker 3>to embrace and realize. And so you've got two guys

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<v Speaker 3>that are in that room, Tank Bigsby. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was about one fumble every thirty carries I think so

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<v Speaker 3>far in his career, not fumbles loss, but fumbles, which

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<v Speaker 3>that's what matters anyway. So you've got to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that those that area with those two guys is cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got plenty ahead we'll return and get into the

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars defense over this offseason program, especially the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of days, felt like some positives out of that group. Ohough,

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<v Speaker 3>real good, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the defense had an outstanding mini.

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<v Speaker 3>Cap I mean really okay, Well we'll dig into that.

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<v Speaker 3>To me was the bright spot. There's a lot to

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<v Speaker 3>discuss here. Then I'm excited to hear this from you,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. That's when we come back on ten XL,

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. This is the final

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars Happy Hour of the offseason. Just there, how you

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<v Speaker 3>go about his work. You know, he held me out

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. Like I said last time, I came up

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<v Speaker 3>here and talking. So just been able to take Thames

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<v Speaker 3>from him into money game and.

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<v Speaker 4>Part for party game is just I'm I can applaud

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<v Speaker 4>to my game and make me better.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Travis Hunter after Wednesday's practice, when asked about Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Junior and the impact of the Pro Bowl receiver

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<v Speaker 3>on him so far in this offseason. Welcome Back Jaguars

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<v Speaker 3>Football is presented by Fresh from Florida. It's always in season.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We're at

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<v Speaker 3>the Hyundai Studios the Miller Electric Center for the final

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<v Speaker 3>time in the offseason. Program vacation begins in forty two minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>We're counting down less than forty two to the dead

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<v Speaker 3>zones than minutes. You know, it's not really the dead zone.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are still things that could be happening

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<v Speaker 3>from a league standpoint, but I was pretty dead though,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, compared to the other eleven months of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, look at yeah, it's pretty dead.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's still some things that are gonna be interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to watch. I mean from a league standpoint. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what's gonna happen with Jaylem Ramsey for one? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Of uh, are you really that intrigued by that? I

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<v Speaker 3>am intrigued by that. I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting because I don't I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be anybody out there looking Is he going

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<v Speaker 3>to play safety for a guy that's gonna cost you

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<v Speaker 3>that much money and they're talking about trading them to trade,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to have somebody that's on the other side

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<v Speaker 3>that wants to take them, you know. So anyway, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's just very interesting, and there's there's some other

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<v Speaker 3>storylines that are going to be kind of an interesting watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's going on in Cincinnati with Shamar Stewart

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<v Speaker 3>the rookie event, and Cincinnati is trying to shove a

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<v Speaker 3>clause of the new contract style that nobody in the

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<v Speaker 3>league uses down the throat of this rookie first round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>It just goes to show you that the Bengals once again, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the clause, by the way, some type of clause

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<v Speaker 3>that you can take away future guarantees based on some

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<v Speaker 3>behavior in one year, which has never been instituted in

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<v Speaker 3>the National Football League. Does he have a history or something? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that's weird. I don't I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as I know, he doesn't have any history. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing. If you had a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>the history, okay, don't try to give him a different contract.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't pick them. There's plenty of other players to pick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>don't pick the guy you know and anyways, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But again that's typical typical Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>That's rare now because since the last CBA and everything,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of cbas go. Now when everything was slotted,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no holdouts anymore. Like rookies don't have to hold

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<v Speaker 3>out for anything, don't have to do with money.

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<v Speaker 1>Nowadays, it's it's just language.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's rarely goes this deep either. No, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Travis Hunter signed. He has not yet. And

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<v Speaker 3>there some guys in Schmart stud being one of them, said, look,

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<v Speaker 3>if I don't have a contract, I'm not going to practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I don't blame any rookie for doing that. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean that's you know, that's kind of part of their

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<v Speaker 3>abilities or power. They don't have to practice in a

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<v Speaker 3>mini camp if they don't have a contract. There are

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<v Speaker 3>some agents that actually advise their clients not to practice

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<v Speaker 3>because what happens is something that if a player gets hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Now again that kind of goes back to the organization's history.

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<v Speaker 3>So like if you're with the Bengals, I would be

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<v Speaker 3>as a rookie less likely to practice without a contract

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<v Speaker 3>because they may end up trying to give me a

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<v Speaker 3>lesser contract if I did sustain an injury. Now, the

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars have no history of doing that type of behavior,

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<v Speaker 3>So I would be willing to practice with the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 3>as a rookie. Remember they when Dante Faller got hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>If Valor got hurt and rookie Minnie camp had not

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<v Speaker 3>sign anything yet and gave him exactly So I think

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<v Speaker 3>history has a lot to do with that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's to me, that's interesting stuff. Jaguars defense, lots of

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<v Speaker 3>new Anthony Campanelli.

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<v Speaker 1>The Campanelli or is a Campanile.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean that's actually a question that he was asked.

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<v Speaker 3>He said both.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I'm good with the either way.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's been it's been fun watching him because I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell that he brings an energy and a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a swagger to this Jaguars defense. You know, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you go back and if you look at Green

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<v Speaker 3>Bay's defense from last year, my analysis of them was that, look,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the most disciplined defenses that I've watched

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<v Speaker 3>all year. I remember preparing for the Jaguars Packers game.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, look, they're not going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>any openings. You've better be on you better be on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that and I hope that that's a

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<v Speaker 3>trade that's going to carry over with this team because

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<v Speaker 3>so far in the offseason you can tell that that

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<v Speaker 3>is a trade. They're where they want to be, where

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<v Speaker 3>they need to be, whereas last year we know that

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<v Speaker 3>that was I think the poorst coaching job in Jaguars

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<v Speaker 3>history on the defensive side of the ball. And there

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<v Speaker 3>were more mental breakdowns last year, I think, the most

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<v Speaker 3>in the league, probably by far the worst performance I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>in Jaguars history. So it's I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be easier to get better obviously on that side of

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<v Speaker 3>the ball. But I like the intensity that he brings.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the assignment, cleanliness, responsibility, knowledge, all of that

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<v Speaker 3>is cleaned up and is being cleaned up. How many

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<v Speaker 3>contested balls have you seen in that three day mini

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<v Speaker 3>camp by defenders over the ball, which means they're where

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<v Speaker 3>they need to be, And to me that that has

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<v Speaker 3>been impressive. So look, and I know it's early, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't even played a game yet, but I like

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm seeing out of out of him as a

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<v Speaker 3>coordinator and what I'm seeing out of his defense, and

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<v Speaker 3>the messaging trickles down to the players, of course, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can hear some of that messaging that's likely being

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<v Speaker 3>presented in defensive meetings during interviews. One of those is

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<v Speaker 3>Jarry and Jones this week when you asked about Campany's

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<v Speaker 3>defense and approach, and he said, quote, whooping someone's ass

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<v Speaker 3>is the main key end quote. It kind of tells

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<v Speaker 3>you everything you need to know. You can tell that

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<v Speaker 3>that that comes from the boss man, because he's got

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<v Speaker 3>that attitude, you know. And I was telling you this

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit ago, and you know, I'll share it

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<v Speaker 3>with everybody on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I people watch in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I watch players, but then I also watch

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<v Speaker 3>how coaches interact, how coaches interact with players with themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's fun to watch Anthony Campanile or Campanelli, however

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<v Speaker 3>you want to say it, interact with the players because

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<v Speaker 3>when he gets them on an individual basis, when they're

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<v Speaker 3>in Indy, which Indy folks that we call that individual drill,

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<v Speaker 3>individual periods who'll work with certain position groups and the

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<v Speaker 3>intensity is like way high. But that's the moment you

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<v Speaker 3>can do those kind of things. You can't have this

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<v Speaker 3>super intense red in the face, you know, spit flying

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<v Speaker 3>out of your mouth. When you're coordinator, you gotta be calm,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta be cool, and you gotta be reasonable. He

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<v Speaker 3>might be burning up inside with all that's going on,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have to have that outer shell that is calm,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and because that's how you want your defense

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<v Speaker 3>to play. But when he's an individual period with different

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<v Speaker 3>position groups, you can see the intensity comes out in

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<v Speaker 3>him in a big way, and it's almost like he

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<v Speaker 3>has to do that just to kind of get centered,

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<v Speaker 3>you know a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then when he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Working with the defense, it's that calm, cool demeanor and

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. What we're on at ten to excel

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube is Jaguars Happy Hour. What

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<v Speaker 3>is the most intriguing position group that will that you'll

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<v Speaker 3>watch during training camp? You know, is it a battle

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<v Speaker 3>for a roster spot, is it a group as a whole?

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<v Speaker 3>Which one on the defensive side stands out to you

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<v Speaker 3>the most? Well, I'm always partial to the defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 3>just because that's kind of was my home for ten

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<v Speaker 3>years in the league, and so I will watch that

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<v Speaker 3>group obviously with a little bit more interest. But to me,

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<v Speaker 3>the safety position is to me the most intriguing one.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you go down and you look at

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<v Speaker 3>that position from a roster standpoint. Darnell Savage, Daniel Thomas,

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<v Speaker 3>Raywan Lane from Navy, Antonio Johnson, Caleb Ransall, draft pick,

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Murray free agent that was signed Antonio Johnson. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got and Winger who is a damn good football

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<v Speaker 3>player and arguably one of the best special teams players

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<v Speaker 3>that there is. I think in this league you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of guys there and you got limited roles.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's going to be one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most intriguing position group oops, from who's going to start

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<v Speaker 3>to who's gonna make the roster? I think from both standpoints.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's think about from the special teams perspective. First, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned Wingard, I mean he could be battling for

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<v Speaker 3>a starting spot on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And Daniel Thomas.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Thomas elite special teams players, outstanding, elite special team

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<v Speaker 3>And they've said the same thing about Raywan Lane the third,

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<v Speaker 3>the rookie out of Navy, that that was his ability

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<v Speaker 3>at Navy and maybe it translates in the NFL also,

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<v Speaker 3>So those are three right there that just okay, those

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 3>guys are going to have roles on special teams, you

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<v Speaker 3>would think, well, and then obviously it goes without saying

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Hunter, his role you know with the secondary is

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<v Speaker 3>obviously going to be something that's going to be interesting

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.919
<v Speaker 3>to watch, you know, But I think it's very important

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 3>to allow him to excel at one position. I think

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 3>defense is something that he can he can excel at

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 3>without getting as many reps as he needs. Needs to

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 3>probably get on offense because offense is so timing and

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 3>everything else.

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Related, you know.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 3>And look, the reality is that the offense needs to

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of find a groove and find a rhythm, and

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 3>so I think he needs to spend more time on

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 3>offense and a little less time on defense. But I

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 3>mean that safety position to me is gonna be really interesting,

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 3>and corner for that matter. Yeah, a lot of new

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 3>faces in the secondary. The one guy I thought that

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 3>had a really good mini camp, Monterrey Brown, thought he

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 3>had a really good mini camp. I'm also a big

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 3>fan of DeAndre Prince. I think he's got great man skills,

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 3>you know. So, I mean, where are those two gonna

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 3>be at? Jar Ian Jones? How are all these guys

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 3>gonna end up developing? And obviously the veteran that they signed,

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Jordan Lewis. Lewis is a tremendous player. I was

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna say, I've been impressed just the practices I've been

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 3>out there. I mean, he's a ninth year player. He

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 3>has a presence about him. He's got a mouth on him.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>He's not afraid to chirp and kind of keep everybody.

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 3>But he's not over the top, right, It's a good Yeah,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 3>it seems like that is a good tone certain guys.

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 3>You want him just to shut up, you know what

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean. You're like, dude, can you just shut up?

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 3>You're talking too much. I will not present any names,

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 3>but go ahead, But Jordan Louis is not that. I mean,

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 3>it's a playful, fun, competitive banter, not an annoying, shut

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 3>the hell up banter. Yeah. And then Tyson Campbell has

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 3>had tremendous mini camp and this defense suits him to

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 3>a t. On Wednesday, there was a play. It was

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 3>red zone in the end zone closest to the grandstand

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 3>field too, and there was a jump ball back left

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 3>corner of the end zone Travis Hunter against Jordan Lewis

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 3>and it was like a perfect ball. Oh yeah, both

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.120
<v Speaker 3>had a chance at it. Lewis knocks it, by the way,

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 3>that's a that's a pass and a play that Travis

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Hunter dominated in college. That's right, that's right, And Lewis

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 3>made the play on it. And Hunter will get his

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 3>at some point and I thought that was to me,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 3>that was like the play of the mini camp, like, Okay,

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 3>this kind of tells you where things are right now,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 3>and it went the defense's way at least on that day.

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 3>And that was during And the cool thing is is

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 3>that during mini camp there were and you and I

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 3>kind of m seed the practice yesterday a little bit

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 3>to give the fans an idea of what was happening

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 3>during certain periods. And they have certain periods that literally

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 3>the intensity goes up and the players know it, Okay,

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 3>this is they're keeping score. Okay, offense can win, defense

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 3>can win. And there's a odd number of plays in

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 3>each one of these drills, nine to be exact, and

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>so there's a winner at the end of the drill.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Highly competitive, highly competitive, And I love this because it's

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of a message from the coaches to the players

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>that are like, okay, now it's time to turn on

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 3>that that game mindset, ultimate or competitor mindset. And it

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 3>was good to see that, and it was it was

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 3>highly competitive. You know, they did it in red zone,

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 3>they did it in third down, fourth down, over time.

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 3>It was cool, much different vibe than the Urban Meyer

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 3>winners losers practice stuff. Remember all that when they used

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 3>to Yeah, that was that was a different animal altogether.

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 3>This is good. It was good team competition. It was

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 3>and I think what it does it creates the the

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 3>bonding with with groups. You know, offense, okay, make them

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 3>bond they're competing as as a group, you know, same

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 3>thing with the offense. And I got to say the

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 3>defense won. They certainly did. They did. We're back in

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 3>a moment and we'll get into what coaches and players

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 3>should be doing for the next month or might be doing.

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Whether they should or shouldn't your imagination. I don't know.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 3>The one thing that I don't want them doing is

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 3>getting into any kind of trouble. We'll get into that

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>when we return as well. It's into excel Amjaguars dot com,

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Jaguars YouTube, this is Jaguars Happy Hour.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 5>We're not really trying to emphasize gap schemes too much

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 5>because that's when those collisions can occur, when you're pulling people, trapping, whamming,

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 5>pulling two and that's where a lot of those things

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 5>that occur that you aren't really supposed to occur in

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 5>this phase, right, So we're trying to stay within the rules,

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 5>but continue to get better at the zone game.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Right. That's obviously a little bit more.

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Of a safe run in this phase, but also something

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 5>that we want to be able to do.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 5>Everybody runs zone in the NFL game, So I think

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 5>today was actually some of our better hits on zone

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 5>that we've had. Had a couple utter ones yesterday. But

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 5>I think once you get into training camp, the run

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 5>game will have to diversify a little bit more in

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 5>terms of, all right, we got the pads on, where

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 5>are toss cracks now coming out? I'm not gonna go crack.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 5>One of our personal our players on our team.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Willam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, earlier today discussing the run

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 3>game practices here in the off season program and how

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 3>they will change once the heat of training camp is

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>upon us. Welcome back as Jaguars Happy Are. The twenty

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<v Speaker 3>You ever see that?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw.

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<v Speaker 3>The opening song in that movie is done by Vampire Weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a band.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Vampire Weekend is a band. I got it, so

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<v Speaker 3>I need to add that to my Spotify. Sure, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what kind of music it's like, it's alternative music. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean mid to mid late two thousands, I think is

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<v Speaker 3>Looking forward to those. All right, so off seasons here,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, this is this is the day where I

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>mean they shortened practice a little bit probably, I think

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>they had some meetings and things after and then there

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>is a stampede to the parking lot to get in

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 3>the cars to get out of here for some guys,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and there are some guys that are gonna

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 3>stay here.

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 3>The facility will remain open to players, and the staff

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 3>will I'm sure kind of handle it from you know,

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 3>because the staff needs a break to you know, we

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 3>were talking earlier about how the what the players need

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 3>to do at this point of the season, but the

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 3>staff has to be able to prepare their mind and

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>their families for the grind that they're getting ready to

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>undertake here pretty soon too, so they need time away

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 3>as well. So but yeah, I mean there's a lot

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 3>of guys that I mean that are like doing what

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about as soon as this practice was over

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>and they were done and they were rolling to wherever

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>they wanted to go. But I think the rookies are

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 3>still in town for another two weeks to continue to work,

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 3>which is good. But at the same token, you know

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 3>they're going to need some time away too, because you know,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 3>the the from the time the rookies football season ends

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 3>to when they get drafted and everything that leads up

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 3>to that, and then right after.

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like a whirlwind.

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 3>And look, you don't even know sometimes what day of

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 3>the week it is or what month it is, and

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, you haven't trained necessarily for football. You were

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 3>training for all of these drills that we're going to

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>be evaluated from a clock standpoint. So now you need

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 3>to make sure that you're training yourself to get ready

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 3>to play football. And I think part of these next

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 3>two weeks will be a lot of that for them.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>There will be Liam Cohen, who we just heard from

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>also on the Pat McAfee show today, said he's going

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 3>on a big golf trip to Scotland coming up I

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 3>think next week, So the next couple of weeks coaches

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 3>will have some time as well, and then once kind

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 3>of mid July hits, they're all back in the fold again,

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 3>getting ready for the early arrivals rookies quarterbacks and then

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 3>training camp in late July. Yeah, I mean, look, the coaches,

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>the coaches grind. I mean, the demands of being an

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 3>NFL coach from a time standpoint and time spent away

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 3>from family is huge. And so any chance that did

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 3>they get to travel and spend time with family and

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 3>to do a phenomenal trip like that to go play golf,

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, good for him, because once he comes back,

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be all business for the foreseeable future.

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>And then the next break he's gonna get it's gonna

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 3>be you hope after the super Bowl, right after the parade,

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 3>right you come on? Yeah, yeah, exactly. That'd be great

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>if you could pick one place to go. JP Shattery, Yes,

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 3>that's me. Okay, you've got an opportunity. Okay, you've got

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 3>the resources. You know, you're you're pulling in good money,

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 3>You're you're coach in the Nationals this must be a

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 3>fictional account.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But yes, okay, where would you go to your mind?

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Would you go golfing fishing some exotic island with sand

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 3>and serve? I got a bad risk right now, So

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 3>golf's out of the golf sasion. Okay, I'm not you know,

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>the beach. We got the beach here, so I'm not

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 3>necessarily gonna fly two thousand miles to go to the

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 3>beach when we go to the beach here. I don't

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:58.439
<v Speaker 3>really go to the beach here either.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, but that's the question.

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe something that's a little cooler than here, Okay, you know,

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 3>maybe heading to the north somewhere. Maybe, yeah, because it

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 3>is we're in a swamp logs and it is hotter

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 3>than hell.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Pretty warm, yeah, pretty warm.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 3>So maybe something to get out of the heat for

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks. I don't know. Canada, yeah, Canada,

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Alaska maybe, I mean, last couple of years, been fortunate

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.240
<v Speaker 3>enough to go to the British Isles right in the summer,

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 3>right and it's a totally it's like sixty degrees and

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 3>raining every day, perfect cool, right, love it. Yeah, So

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 3>I dig that, But I mean, that's that's kind of.

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 3>I think the mindset. I mean, take your family, take

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 3>yourself get away, don't lose the edge that you have

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 3>gained from a training standpoint, and continue to make sure

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 3>that you're watching what you're putting in your body, because

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to start backpedaling and losing ground that

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 3>you've gained throughout the off season conditioning and OTAs and

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>everything of that nature. So but you got to you

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 3>got to be able to give the mind a little

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 3>bit of a break. Well let's ask just the other way.

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Let's say you had that same situation. What would be

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 3>your ideal get away? What did what did you like

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 3>to do during that month? Well, I think from a

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 3>player's standpoint, you want to be if you're going to

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 3>go somewhere, you still want to be able to work

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 3>out to some extent. So that would be a Seriously,

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 3>you have to, I mean you can't. You can take

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>three or four days and not train, but you can't

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 3>go somewhere for two weeks and not have have lifted

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 3>a weight or done some type of conditioning. So the

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 3>first thing that you think of is that where can

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I go that I can still accomplish some of my

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 3>training goals where can I go to still meet some

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>of my dietary restrictions that I have, right, I mean,

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 3>so a lot of that factors into it. And there

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 3>are different places that you can go to that have

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of those amenities that are built in that.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Some places that are cooler, some places that are warmer.

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 3>But it's got to have those those things that I

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 3>talk about, the ability to train, the ability to have

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<v Speaker 3>the facilities to accomplish what you want, and also the

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 3>ability to watch what you're eating.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>All those have to be considered.

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 3>Did you when you played, did you just stick around

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 3>here and fish for a month? Yeah?

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean who would want to leave this place other

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:23.720
<v Speaker 1>than heaven?

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Right? Yeah, I mean the fishing here in the summertime

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 3>is just tremendous. At least where I lived at Saint

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 3>John's Revan was incredible. Sure you know so, I mean yeah,

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean I tried to stay here. And that's the

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 3>great thing.

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 3>Back in the early days, they actually closed the old

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>stadium up where we trained at. They closed it up.

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 3>You didn't even have the option of working out inside.

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 3>They closed it up for a period of time. But

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 3>now they keep it open for the players.

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Which is a good thing.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 3>You talked about all the good fishing down at your

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 3>old place. I mean I went there a couple of times.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I didn't catch a damn thing. Well, you're just not

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 3>very good fishermen. Yeah, sorry, true, yeah, operator reality, it's

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 3>very true.

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, look.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 3>There there there is nothing wrong with a staycation in Jacksonville,

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you. But but you know, look, you

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>want to go see family sometimes and uh and then

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>mat me take a take a great trip. Man, reward

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 3>yourself for the hard work that you've done. It's all good.

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Let's come back. We'll get our final thoughts in before

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 3>vacation begins. In about fifteen minutes. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:42.399
<v Speaker 3>Some good days.

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Some days were a little sloppier, and that's just that's

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 4>part of especially a new system, a lot of new guys.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Everyone's playing together kind of for the first time for

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 4>a lot of us. So overall, I thought it was

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 4>really good. I thought we learned a lot, took some

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 4>really big steps of improvement throughout OTAs And you know,

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm proud of the guys how they worked. Everyone you know,

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 4>worked their tail off all off season, really pushed ourselves,

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a lot of times where this is

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.959
<v Speaker 4>a period where some people can kind of take it easy,

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 4>and I felt like every day we really came out here,

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, busted our ass and really were intentional about

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:14.399
<v Speaker 4>what we were doing.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback with a sweet headband after practice today,

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 3>meeting with the media. Full availability at Jaguars dot com

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour from the

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Honday Studios, the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Final show until July twenty fourth. I get the impression

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 3>that you're, you know, pointing out the headband because you're

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 3>jealous of the flowing locks of Trevor Lawrence. You're not wrong,

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 3>it's been a long time. You should, you should. I

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't do the show with a bandana. Sometimes I need

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things. Logs is what I need. I

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 3>used to have long hair one time. Actually, did you

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 3>really high school?

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Did you have a mullet?

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 3>No? I had like long hair, long hair. It was thick, long,

0:39:58.640 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 3>everyone was big.

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you ever have a mullet?

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.919
<v Speaker 3>I did not do you that. I guess that would

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>be a reverse mullet when it's long at the top,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 3>short on the size.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you had? One of those reverse mullets.

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 3>No, you had a mullet, top had a kick. Yeah,

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I had a strong mullet. Business in the front, party

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 3>in the back had a strong mullet. Somebody told me

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.879
<v Speaker 3>one time, there's a photo of you somewhere walking out

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 3>shirtless pregame in New York. We had the big ponytail

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 3>hanging down like pregame warm ups. Did you used to

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 3>do that? I don't know.

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I may have. I don't know, as might have. There's

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>one guy in his building that always claims that.

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 3>That happened, and we know who that is. Perk would

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>be one of his nicknames. Yeah, yeah, I don't know

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 3>if there's any validity to what he's saying, but I

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 3>can say I believe him. You never know, Jack. I

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.760
<v Speaker 3>was happy I were presented by dream Finders Homes Official

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 3>home of the Jacksonville Official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. English.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Let me try it sometime.

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It's good for you.

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 3>It is. This is the final show before the dead zone.

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 3>You want to cut the roster now or like you

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 3>want to wait till training can Here's the deal, Mini

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Camp is a great time to evaluate some things because

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 3>there's no pads. I a lot of stars out there

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 3>right now, and I've learned I've learned, okay over the

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:41.240
<v Speaker 3>last thirty six years, okay, of being around the NFL

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 3>that don't get overly excited about anything from mini camp

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 3>or the OTAs or anything of that nature. Even in

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 3>training camp. You know, just just slow down because the

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 3>pads have to come on. And then there are different

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 3>levels of achievement of achievement for players. I mean, there's

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 3>certain guys that you know that they shine through everything OTAs,

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 3>mini camp, training camp, and then the games when the

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 3>lights come on, they continue to elevate their game, and

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 3>there are some that just fall by the wayside because

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 3>they're not consistent enough, or they're not physical enough, or

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 3>they're not mentally tough enough. I mean, it's to me,

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>it's the hardest game to play in all of professional sports,

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 3>because it is it is demanding from a physical standpoint,

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 3>but most importantly, it's incredibly demanding from a mental standpoint.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 3>You have to be mentally tough to play this game,

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and some guys just can't do it, you know, And

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 3>some guys will have moments, but the consistency. The great

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 3>ones have a consistency about them, and then shine through

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 3>all of that. And so you want to see the

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 3>whole book, you know, before you start to jump to

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 3>conclusions a little bit, you know, after a couple chapters.

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 3>So and especially we haven't seen the big guys hit

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 3>each other. Ayah, nothing, you know. I mean, like, for example,

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a perfect example. Uh ninety one look

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 3>unblockable in this mini camp. Okay, okay, Eric, I mean

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 3>that's great, I'm excited about it. It's cool. But again, okay,

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 3>let's let's get to the regular season. And Tom Harrison

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't look great at moments, but it's the off season OTAs, Okay,

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 3>what's he gonna do once we get to camp when

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 3>it starts to become real. You know. So there are

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 3>things that you think, but things that you just don't

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 3>know yet at this time of the year. And then

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Liam Cohen has talked about that a little while ago.

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 3>We heard from it. Especially in the run game. You

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 3>can't run certain ideas is because it's a non contact

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>time of year. You can't even do that well. And

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 3>you'll start doing it in training camp. Well, and look,

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 3>you have a set of rules that you've got to

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 3>go buying from the coaches standpoint, and if you don't

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 3>follow those rules, then you end up getting fined heavily

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 3>and also losing maybe some other aspect of your training

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 3>ability in the future for violating rules that are set

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:30.479
<v Speaker 3>out in the collective bargaining agreement. So yeah, so I'm

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna be looking forward very much to training camp because

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>that's when you start to know about a lot of

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 3>guys like we have. We think, for example, the offensive

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 3>line is going to be much more competitive.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 1>They've brought guys in in free agency.

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 3>They've got a couple of them undrafted, one of them drafted.

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 3>We think it's gonna be better. Well, we've got to

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 3>wait and see, you know, until the pads come on.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>What do you have?

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Fred Johnson's a giant human being? Is giant human being? Sure,

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, a giant human being can't really

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 3>impose his giantness opponent.

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm making it a word.

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Giant can't do that against an opponent at this point

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 3>of their juncture of the off season. Let's see, by

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 3>the way I talked with him the other day, he's

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 3>listed at six seven three twenty six. I don't think

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 3>he's sixty seven. I think he's I think he's six'. Eight,

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Really i'm just telling YOU. JP i went up to

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 3>introduce myself to him and talked with him for five

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 3>or ten minutes and was asking him, about you, know

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 3>the natural position that he likes and how many starts

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 3>he's had at each each. Spot And i'm just sitting

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 3>there and the person that came to mind because the

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 3>only player THAT i ever went against in THE nfl

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 3>to WHERE i was in awe of how.

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Big he, was With Jonathan.

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Ogdenden i'll never, forget never forget the first TIME i

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 3>ever played against against john AND i was just, like oh.

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>My, god.

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 3>This guy is. Legit he's a giant human. Being Fred

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 3>johnson's that's he's in the same. Category he's the. Second

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 3>he's the second guy That i've ever been around that

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 3>is just an absolute and the guy For philadelphia is

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 3>in the same. Category the left tackle My, Lotta Jordan,

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:28.479
<v Speaker 3>mylatta who is the biggest human being of them, all

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:33.439
<v Speaker 3>and standing around him is, like oh my, God Fred,

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Johnson Jordan, mylotta and then of Course Jonathan, ogden three

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 3>biggest human beings That i've ever been around in. Football

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 3>my first one of my first years, here we played

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 3>The patriots And Vince wilfork was one of Those for,

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 3>ME i was, like oh, boy this is different, Now

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 3>he's just why really, massive really human. Being Sarah goose

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 3>a kind of in the same. Category and then the

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 3>nose tackle that played Alongside.

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Sarah goose uh, Oh Raw Donald, blank really good football player.

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Who was the one in the nineties for The packers

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 3>who was the nose Tackle gilbert H that guy was Not.

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Tony gilbert was. HUGE i can't remember his first, name But,

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 3>gilbert and he was he. Was all you would do

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 3>is just that and stand. There it's all he had to.

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Do that's.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 3>It he was a space eater and that you weren't

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 3>running anywhere with his outstretched arms that he had that.

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>COVERED i got this right. Here you just forget Like Sean, Gilbert, sean.

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 3>That sounds, close but it's, Funny like you know on

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 3>television the players running, around but if you have the

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to get close to them or on the sideline or,

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 3>whatever it's, like all these guys are. Different was. It

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Sam adams who was next To Sarah goosen might have.

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 3>BEEN i think it was another just giant human being.

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Man but for, Real Fred johnson is just a.

0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>GIANT i think he's.

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Got he's got a, shot, Right so player out Of,

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 3>florida look watching he isn't you. Know he doesn't have

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of career starts. Now and but when

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 3>he started For philadelphia and he started at different positions for,

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 3>them he did a really good, job you. Know and That's,

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 3>look that's a really good offensive. Line and they have

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 3>a standard that they, set you, know so when you

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 3>join that, rank, okay it's understood we're, here you. Know

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 3>so if you're, playing you need to be here at

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 3>this level with. Us and so when you have a

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 3>room and a group like, that they demand that you

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.240
<v Speaker 3>play to their. Level and that's one of the best

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 3>offensive line coaches, too exists In. Philadelphia and if you

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 3>if you can develop that mindset, here that would be,

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 3>outstanding would Be.

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the.

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 3>GOAL i, mean, look that's the. Goal he's still going

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 3>to answer a lot of questions in training. Camp you

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 3>know who's going to be out there. First, well then

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 3>that's it's. Competitive it's going to be very competitive along

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 3>the offensive line this. Year and AND i think there's

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 3>also going to be some interesting where interesting from the

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 3>standpoint of where are guys going to find a? Home

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 3>you know it from you Because patrick, McCary for, example you,

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 3>know is he going to be right? Guard could he

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 3>play left right? Tackle you, know you had a couple

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 3>of guys moving in and out of, there you. Know

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 3>SO i think it's going to be an interesting. Watch

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:30.840
<v Speaker 3>they got to be, better, THOUGH i can tell you,

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 3>that and they got to learn how to run the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Man the last couple of years with.

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<v Speaker 3>This, OFFENSE i think that was one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>downfalls to this offense In jacksonville was the lack the

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<v Speaker 3>lack of ability to run the ball when he needed

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<v Speaker 3>to run, it and short yardage was like right at

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<v Speaker 3>the top of for perfect examples to what they couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>DO i, mean the last two, years the third, down

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<v Speaker 3>third and short running game was. Terrible it's. Awful it

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<v Speaker 3>was like it felt like third and five all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time AND i think the mindset was that the run

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of an. Afterthought it's gotta, change all, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>logs great off, Season enjoy your few weeks. Away we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk to you in training. Camp Happy Early Father's.

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