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Speaker 3: My ex's new girlfriend is a carbon copy of me.

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Speaker 3: I want to confront him.

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Speaker 2: Confront you a clone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is a bit weird, but stick with me.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to call my ex Mike and his new

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Speaker 3: girlfriend Katie. Background. Me and Mike were friends for about

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Speaker 3: two years, during which I had been dating another guy.

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Speaker 3: I broke up with said other guy, and since me

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Speaker 3: and Mike had great chemistry, we decided to give dating

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Speaker 3: a track.

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Speaker 2: Ah, the classic Mike was just waiting in the wings.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Fantasy Ex Girlfriend Exit

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Speaker 3: everything was going fantastic. We had an amazing passion, enjoyed

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Speaker 3: the same interests, and I kept up with his fast

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Speaker 3: faced life out really well. Because of a whole other

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Speaker 3: mess crazy roommate, my best friend who was Mike's friend

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Speaker 3: for years before me and turned out to be in

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Speaker 3: love with Mike. Yikes tell us that story. We ended

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Speaker 3: up going our separate ways. That kind of hurt both

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Speaker 3: while to lick our wounds and didn't talk for the

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Speaker 3: next year. Within that time, I met my current boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: who I am deeply in love with, and we are

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Speaker 3: set to get engaged. Soon after that year, Mike contacted

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Speaker 3: me and said that he really valued the friendship that

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Speaker 3: we had before and missed talking to him.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Mike's trying to do it again. Mike's like I

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Speaker 2: did it once, I'll do it again again.

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Speaker 3: I agreed, but made it very clear that I was

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Speaker 3: of that and has never ever crossed a personal line

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Speaker 3: with me in that regard. In conversations, he is always

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Speaker 3: nothing but friendly and a gentleman. We began to just

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Speaker 3: friendly chat over text, Facebook, and occasionally meet up for

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Speaker 2: Everything seemed back to normal.

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Speaker 3: The only weird thing to me, at least, was that

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Speaker 3: it would take Mike another year. So now two years

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Speaker 3: since we dated to have another girlfriend. He's attractive and

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't until two years after me and him

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Speaker 3: was a bit weirded out because me and Katie looked

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Speaker 3: just had a time. Him and Katie have now been

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Speaker 3: dating for around eight months onto our current situation. I

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Speaker 3: didn't really talk much about my relationship around Mike because

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Speaker 3: I don't gush about my couples stuff to single friends,

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Speaker 3: unless they show a vested interest. However, once Mike met Katie,

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Speaker 3: who I have also briefly met and spent time with.

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Speaker 3: She's lovely and sweet, I began reintroducing talk about my

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Speaker 3: we would now chat about Valentine's plans, what to get

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Speaker 3: for holidays, anniversaries, plan trips, et cetera. However, something really

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Speaker 3: weird began to happen. Mike began to take everything I

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Speaker 3: Here's some examples. I talked about this beautiful night was

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Speaker 3: that my boyfriend was getting me for Valentine's Day. Mike

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Speaker 3: then bought that exact necklix for Katie for Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 3: There was even three options for the mainstone, and he

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Speaker 3: that we were going to a local eatery and then

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Speaker 3: a specific local stage show theater shows multiple plays at once.

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Speaker 3: Mike took Katie to the exact same stuff for their

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Speaker 4: That's really weird.

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Speaker 3: That is very weird. Well, it's like it's the same

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Speaker 2: You had a relationship with somebody and like a bunch

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's okay to do it in

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Speaker 3: I just really like that with my partner. And then

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And it's like, Okay, well

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Speaker 3: I just might do that same thing or like or

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Speaker 3: I mean things like cooking, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like if if if someone likes cooking with a partner,

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Speaker 2: My new partner.

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Speaker 3: Me and my old partner used to do that. And

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Speaker 3: like with something's like that, with things like this, though,

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Speaker 3: this is weird. This is literally do you get Daisha

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Speaker 3: fuh and she's with you. That's literally the exact same.

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Speaker 3: That's Olivia Rodrigu That's what she's doing.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's glasses just broke, everyone's Yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: Olivia Rodrigo, I'm coming for your job, dude, I'm coming

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Speaker 3: for your freaking job. Count your days, get you. The

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Speaker 3: latest thing that had come up in a conversation with

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Speaker 3: Mike was a trip to Mexico that me and my

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Speaker 3: There are a few other examples going on the same

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Speaker 3: doing the same couple activities, but those were the main ones.

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Speaker 3: I feel like this happens we too often and with

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Speaker 3: way too much similarity to be a coincidence. If we

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Speaker 3: the reasoning for this. For now, I've not brought this

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Speaker 3: How would I even begin to bring this up with Mike?

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Speaker 3: Should I just one one hundred percent cut contact and

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Speaker 3: not look back. Should I at least let Katie know?

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Speaker 3: Should I be worried about what might happen if I

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Speaker 3: cut contact and we've gotten update? But what are you thinking?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just because it's late, or

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Speaker 2: if this is what I really think? But first of all,

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Speaker 2: cut contact? Why not? But also be like, yo, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you follow me? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why I see you doing all this with you? This

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Speaker 2: I don't know where I've seen her before?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Is it every day? When I wake up and look

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You can either do that or you just that's the

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Speaker 2: sound of you closing your laptop, you closing the social media.

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Speaker 2: Stop looking at what this guy's doing, and then all

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Speaker 3: We do have an update. So first off, I want

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Speaker 3: to give the typical thank you to everyone who took

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Speaker 3: to you. The general consensus seemed to be that Mike

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Speaker 3: that while it was not exactly cool, I shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: I decided to do just that. Last night. I sent

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Speaker 3: I have recently talked to you about. I understand that

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Speaker 3: you might just be looking to your friends or inspiration

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Speaker 3: I hope you understand. I figured that because you were

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Speaker 3: the future. Mike replied about an hour later with just

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Speaker 3: one line that said me and you need to talk

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Speaker 3: in person. Can I come pick you up up?

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Speaker 2: Uh? No, we can go meet somewhere. Dude, you're kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what that was scary. It's like, don't bring anyone,

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Speaker 3: don't bring anyone, don't bring any cops.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's just so clear now that now

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Speaker 2: it's weird. And also, how would your girlfriend, Mike, how

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Speaker 2: would your current girlfriend feel about you coming to pick

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Speaker 2: up your ex girlfriend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm definitely about to

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Speaker 3: confess love, of course, for sure.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of sad. Yeah, it's just said.

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Speaker 3: I let Oh my guy, mikey.

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Speaker 2: Boy, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Guess what day it is.

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Speaker 3: This immediately made me feel weird. I'm glad I went

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Speaker 3: with my gut feeling as well, because I replied, sorry,

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Speaker 3: but I will be busy for the next while with work.

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Speaker 3: If you need to talk to me, whatever you want

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Speaker 3: can be sent over a message.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, job exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this time he took five hours to reply, but

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Speaker 2: It was mutual. We had both agreed we weren't right

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Speaker 2: Okay story time subreddit. So Jake has been dating Sophie

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Speaker 2: Nothing inappropriate while he's with Sophie as far as I know,

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Speaker 3: Not anyone can handle being a healthy relationship.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? I turned to her and said,

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's an amazing comeback. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Sophie looked stunned, Jake looked beyond uncomfortable, and a

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Speaker 2: boke poke. Now the bear has muled her. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You glock around? Can't you can't do that one?

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Speaker 3: No, No, that was an amazing comeback and I'm here

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Speaker 3: for it all. That's like, she was coming at you

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad I got out right as that started

438
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 2: to happen. Yeah, or like I was in it when

439
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: it started. But like, you can stand up for yourself.

440
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: It's not doesn't make you a bad person, it doesn't

441
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: make you the problem. It's like you have to have

442
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: self respect. Hey again, read it just wanted to post

443
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 2: a quick up day since a lot happened. Well, I'm

444
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: still kind of processing it, but it feels worth sharing.

445
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 2: So after I left the barbecue and posted this, I

446
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 2: got a flurry of text from mutual friends, mostly along

447
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,959
Speaker 2: the lines of dang that was awkward but also way overdue.

448
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 2: Apparently everyone noticed Sophie's digs throughout the day, and more

449
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: than one person told me they were surprised. I lasted

450
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: as long as I did before finally saying something. I

451
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: was surprised as well. Jake, for what it's worth, hasn't

452
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 2: said a single word to me, not an apology, not

453
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: a hey, that was a lot, nothing Radio Silencio. But

454
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: I did get a very, very long, dramatic message from

455
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: Sophie last night, basically accusing me of trying to sabotads

456
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 2: her relationship. She called me emotionally my nap bell it out,

457
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: shut your.

458
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: Mouth, shut your mouth.

459
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: Said we're gonna make a new hit song. Shut him mouth, girl,

460
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: shut him out, Shut him out, Sophie in this story.

461
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: I did not respond good. I don't see the point, yes,

462
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: especially because here's the cherry on top. I've actually been

463
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 2: seeing someone for a few months now. His name's Daniel.

464
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 3: I hope he's got a crust.

465
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 2: What if his name was Janiel. He is thoughtful, mature,

466
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: low drama, and most importantly not still caught up on

467
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: his X. We've been keeping things fairly private while we

468
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: found our footing, but last night, after the chaos of

469
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: the barbecue, I post a picture of us to the

470
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: friend group chat, just us smiling at a coffee shop,

471
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: totally normal, and within the hour Sophie left the chat.

472
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: Make of that what you will forsooth. Anyway, Janiel is

473
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,959
Speaker 2: incredibly supportive about everything, and honestly, I think seeing that

474
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: photo and realizing that I have one hundred percent moved

475
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: on was the final in whatever illusion Sophie was holding

476
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: on to. One of our mutuals mentioned that things were

477
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: not going well between her and Jake, which, yeah, that

478
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 2: tracks so yeah. I don't feel bad about what I

479
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: said anymore. Maybe I could have been softer, but sometimes

480
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 2: the truth is sharp, and people don't like how it feels.

481
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: Give them that cold water, and by the way, you're

482
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487
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Speaker 3: Dude, that's great. That's great, and.

488
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Speaker 2: We have a little bit more story left. I don't

489
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Speaker 2: even have any notes. This is all perfect, Yeah, I mean,

490
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: except for you could have stood up for yourself earlier.

491
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: But it's like, sure, I get the friends not tapping in.

492
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: I like that one person was like, your friends stick

493
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: up for you always. But it's like true if you're

494
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: at the bar, like that bar situation I agree with,

495
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: but it's like it's more complicated with the political like

496
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Speaker 2: implications of like being in the Yeah, I feel like,

497
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Speaker 2: you know.

498
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Speaker 3: If things like that happen, if everyone's just like, oh,

499
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Speaker 3: like what like stop saying that. Sometimes, if it's just

500
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Speaker 3: like a first or second offense, you know, her saying

501
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: these passive things, it can just come off as like

502
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: really blowing things out of proportion. And if you don't

503
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: want to like make the situation worse or more dramatic,

504
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 3: then you know, it's not the solution for everyone to

505
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: be like what stop it? You know, it's like I'm

506
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: just gonna wait for the right time. Once it gets enough,

507
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something.

508
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in front of the group, because it's like,

509
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: if it's your thing and people are seeing, like wow,

510
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: she's just like taking that and not addressing it. Maybe

511
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: we don't understand what's going on.

512
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's.

513
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: Like, normally it'd be like wow, if anyone said that

514
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: to me, I would immediately be like, hey, what's your problem?

515
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: But she never called Sophie out, So then the friends

516
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: are like, I mean, is it my place to start this?

517
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: Right?

518
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wouldn't cut the friends out, but let's

519
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Speaker 2: finish this story. Thanks again for all the response. Reading

520
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: through the comments really helped me feel like I wasn't

521
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: just being petty or reactive. I'm good now. Actually I'm

522
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: better than good. I'm great. And Daniel brings me coffee

523
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: and emotional security game. So that's a whin. And we

524
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Speaker 2: do have some top comments to finish it off here.

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Speaker 2: Comment one, I'm glad your friends are on your side.

526
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: Sophie is pathetic. I'm so curious how your ex will

527
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: react to the news of Daniel. Comment two, it wasn't

528
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: fair Sophie to take out her frustrations on you. At

529
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: least they're now dealing with it. Number three, she probably

530
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: thought that you were the one sending him mixed signals

531
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: and the reason he was kind of flip topic. That

532
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: picture must have shown it was all him, maybe as

533
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: opposed to what he was telling her, so she had

534
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: no reason to stay with him. Or maybe she was

535
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: only there as a friend to try to make you

536
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: jealous and come back to him. And that is the

537
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Speaker 2: end of that story. Oh hey, it's Sam, your og host. Here.

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Speaker 4: My friend pretended to be me and confessed her love

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542
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543
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Speaker 4: To begin, I tally twenty three female attracted to the

544
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Speaker 4: same gender, lived in another city for a better job

545
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Speaker 4: and opportunity. I left my hometown not for good, but

546
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Speaker 4: for a quiet time.

547
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Speaker 2: Now.

548
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 4: I went back to the city for a high school

549
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: reunion and met the familiar faces from my childhood and

550
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555
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556
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Speaker 4: Not your girlfriend zero five to five, say something. At

557
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Speaker 4: that time, my childhood friend Drew twenty three was now

558
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Speaker 4: an engineer and attended the same reunion, and my classmate

559
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Speaker 4: slash seat mate Rachel twenty four, female, now a single

560
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Speaker 4: mom of two and a working mom. I sat quietly

561
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Speaker 4: with a old circle of friends when I arrived at

562
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: the reunion. We talked about live and careers at her table.

563
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: When Rachel approached me and started a conversation, she mentioned

564
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: her life. So did I. I told her I live

565
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 4: alone with my cat Ittachi two mal in another city

566
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: and now have a promising career. I also travel a lot.

567
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 4: She mentioned that she and her husband part of ways

568
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: two years ago. I didn't ask as she started mentioning

569
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Speaker 4: her children. For a while, it seemed like a normal

570
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 4: conversation as well as we just talked about live. I

571
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: was happy to know those things until she noticed Drew

572
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: in the corner and said we might make a good couple.

573
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: Nudge nudge, wink wink wing wing man in it.

574
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: The joke was heard at the other table, which started

575
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: teasing me to Drew and even call him to join

576
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 4: our table. It was an awkward situation. I actually denied

577
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: that we were going together. The awkwardness put both of

578
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: us in the decision to leave the reunion early. I

579
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 4: left without even talking to him. That makes me think, oh,

580
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, did you see you see Kean and

581
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: Carly leave together at the party early? I wonder what

582
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: they were doing.

583
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know exactly what we were doing. Oh,

584
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: going to the aquarium.

585
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: Nudge, nudgswink wink.

586
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 4: I'm not being dramatic or anything. Something terrible happened three

587
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: years ago that made my stomach twist and made me

588
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: afraid of gatherings and even being on social media. It

589
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 4: started during grade school. Drew and I met through friends

590
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: of friends. I'm a social butterfly or rather howckroach, and

591
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 4: have made a lot of friends around me, male or female,

592
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: mostly male. He was in the other classroom and my

593
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 4: classroom was next to.

594
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: His.

595
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: Conversation erupted as one of my female friends stated, it's

596
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: not normal not to have a crush. That sounded like

597
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: don't like girls like boys instead. I was a pathetic

598
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: girl at that time and pointed out at him and

599
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 4: told my friends I liked him. Then the following year,

600
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: after pointing him out, became classmates. Not just classmates, we

601
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: became seat mates and soon best friends. We had the

602
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: same hobbies. He liked Naruto, he drew, and he liked

603
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Speaker 4: Hello Kiddies too. Our similarities were obvious and we talked

604
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Speaker 4: most of the time. He didn't like attending school, yet

605
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: he managed to be in the top of his class.

606
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: I had other friends too. If he wasn't around, I

607
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 4: was with them. I also once mentioned that I told

608
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: my friends I liked him so they wouldn't get uncomfortable

609
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Speaker 4: with me if they found out I'm attracted to the

610
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Speaker 4: same gender. He was okay with that and remained as

611
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 4: my crush even after we entered high school. I decided

612
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: to study in the same schools as him, and the

613
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: rumors that I liked him.

614
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Were still in the air.

615
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 4: They said, I'm over the air for liking him so

616
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 4: much making myself study in the same school as him.

617
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: Rather than that, I decided to study at that school

618
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: because most of my cousins were there too. It was

619
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: just a bonus that he studied there and rejected his

620
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: acceptance of the other school that both of us tried

621
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: to get into. We let the rumors run around and

622
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: just minded her own business. I participated in an art

623
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: competitions and he supported me. We still saw each other

624
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 4: during breaks and talked a lot low key. If you

625
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: were attracted the same gender, I think he'd like you,

626
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: or maybe he does like you, but I know you

627
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: don't like him back. But it sounds like he likes

628
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: you though.

629
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do they know that he wasn't the one

630
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 3: that chose her school? Why why is everyone saying that

631
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: she followed him? What if he followed her to the school?

632
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: Right right? I like you, He's got.

633
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: We were in the same class, and the obvious similarities

634
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: between us made others think that I copied him. I

635
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: just ignored it and let them think what they thought

636
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: until Rachel, who became my seat mate, told me we

637
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: liked the same person. I thought she was referring to

638
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: the girl idea, but she was referring to Drew. I

639
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: found it cute and told Drew that Rachel liked him.

640
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: He told me she was fine, and the year passed by.

641
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: Instead of being in the same class, he was in

642
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 4: another section. It wasn't a problem until classmates recognized that

643
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: we had the same color palette for our table and design.

644
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: M I mean, it seems like you guys grew up together.

645
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: Though too many similarities. It has to be love.

646
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: I can't. I'm like, this might be love, but I

647
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: know op situation.

648
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, stars are lying.

649
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: On it is. I think they're just very similar people.

650
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Speaker 2: Drew just sam peeps.

651
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: Maybe OPI doesn't like him, but Drew's probably copying her.

652
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: Do everything about that?

653
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she did mention copying, so I feel

654
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Speaker 3: like I think he's the one following her around.

655
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not the one. He's the one. Drew and

656
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: I had the same interest and yes they were quite similar.

657
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: But is it a problem? I had an issue with

658
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: being obsessed with Drew. I didn't mind. Drew knew I

659
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: like girls, and he started dating too. Rachel, on the

660
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: other hand, was not happy. I think because even after

661
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: being in different sections, we still talked in the hallway

662
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: and often met each other in the cafeteria. I thought

663
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: she just really liked Drew. I told her that Drew

664
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 4: had a girlfriend already and better luck. Next time we

665
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: became classmates again. The other year, Drew and I still talked,

666
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: but not as much as before. Soon we'd be graduating

667
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: and Rachel became my classmate again. She talked about how

668
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: Drew and I listened. Sometimes I teased them, especially when

669
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: Drew and his girlfriend broke up. I was in a

670
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: relationship at that time. Drew knew that's why we kept

671
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: our distance, yet we still talked. Rachel even mentioned that

672
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: Drew got the group photo of my circle of friends

673
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: at my table and left no problem. I know, it's

674
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: not like it's mine. That's what our high school was like.

675
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: In my point of view, Drew and I enjoyed it,

676
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: and during graduation I joked that we never had photos

677
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: together in chat and he said I'm not a person

678
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: who talks and asks for photos often, which is true.

679
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: I really hate taking photos. I told him if I

680
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: didn't have an engagement with my family, I would take

681
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: a photo with him. He told me if I had time,

682
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: let's meet backstage, but I was already home when that time.

683
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 4: Was chatting. I received messages from friends and classmates, and

684
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: Rachel messaged me and told me congratulations and that she

685
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: enjoyed being with me. I still have that convo because

686
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: I recently read it. I told her Drew was backstage

687
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: and she might be interested in confessing her love to him.

688
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh.

689
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: Also what stage is this? So they do in theater

690
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: or something, Dude, I don't know. I'm just gonna assume

691
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: that that's what's happening.

692
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: Maybe high school, I don't know. Minutes later, Drew asked

693
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: what I was planning. I told him I was planning

694
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: to climb mountains, visit beaches, and connect to nature. I

695
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: didn't have plans yet for college. He told me he's

696
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: pursuing engineering. I told him I know, and I would

697
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: be building houses in Minecraft too beautiful. That was in Jockey,

698
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: Chicken Jockey. That was not our last conversation. I updated

699
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: him on my whereabouts when I visited Singapore for the

700
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: first time alone, and the trails on a hill in

701
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: Korea that I saw on Korean dramas. While he was

702
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: complaining about his schoolwork, plates and so on, I told

703
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 4: him I would be visiting Japan soon, and yes, I

704
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: travel a lot. I visit local beaches. I climbed mountains

705
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: while studying for a mere degree that I haven't ever

706
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: used anyway. The incident came three years ago. It was

707
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: Drew who when I got back into the city, hugged

708
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: me and tried to kiss me. Tried to kiss me,

709
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: he tried to kiss me. What but I was over

710
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: the hill and pushed him away and asked, what the

711
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: heck was wrong with them?

712
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Wait, wait, wait, you need to read

713
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: the next line. You need to read the next one,

714
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: he asked me. Why can't he hug his girlfriend again?

715
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: Girlfriend? I told him I was single and I didn't

716
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: plan to be in relationship. He told me, if I'm joking,

717
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: stop messing up, because we've been in the relationship for

718
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: two and a half years now. No, it can't be.

719
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: He told me. We've been dating since I arrived from

720
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: my trip, and I no, no. I but his girlfriend,

721
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: who was supposed to be me, told him I'd be

722
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: attending his graduation and would arrive today.

723
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: Well, what the heck? What did I just run into? Dude?

724
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: Wild Wild left turn here? Oh my gosh. So, first

725
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: of all, we were right about Drew liking her. Second

726
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: of all, these weren't just rumors, or maybe they were,

727
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: And then he was just like, yeah, she's my girlfriend,

728
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: and was going along with that. But what he's telling

729
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: her they have been dating. Wow, And they've been in

730
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: a relationship for two years and she was just completely unaware.

731
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, you forgot to tell me that.

732
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

733
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at some point you gotta claim someone

734
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: as your girlfriend. I did that to Angie like two

735
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 4: weeks and I'm like, oh, you're just my girlfriend, even

736
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 4: if you want it or not, that's just what you

737
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: are until you stopped talking to me. And that's how

738
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: it's been ever since. But this right here, I mean,

739
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 4: if your girlfriend's in Japan, it doesn't invite you and

740
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: doesn't really ask how you're doing because you're chatting. I mean,

741
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: where did the miscommunication come from? So we're getting back

742
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 4: into this next part. Okay, strange I came back, yes,

743
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: to congratulate him, but not as his girlfriend, but as

744
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: his best friend. I told him I'm not his girlfriend

745
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: and I never will be. Became mad. He told me

746
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: how cruel I was, and it stopped joking around. No,

747
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: I'm not joking because I'm not in relationships with anyone,

748
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 4: not with a man. I told him he knew my preference,

749
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: and he told me that. I told him my liking

750
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 4: for him was romantic and not for friendship. I asked

751
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: them to leave because we got into another argument and

752
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 4: I didn't want to hear more of the ridiculous claims

753
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: that we were in a relationship. I still attended his graduation,

754
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: but we didn't talk. I thought we talking after that,

755
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: but he blocked me and told me were over. I

756
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: don't think it was about our friendship being over, or

757
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: if it was a relationship breakup. I told myself that

758
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 4: maybe I look like his girlfriend or I was overreacting.

759
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: I waited for him to unblock me, even asked her

760
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: other friends to check on him. One close friend of

761
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 4: Drew Alough told me it had been three years since

762
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: I agreed for Drew and me to a date. Paulo

763
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: said it was a ridiculous claim because why would I

764
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: use two different accounts to chat with my boyfriend boyfriend

765
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 4: two different accounts. I knew there was a second account.

766
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: I knew, I know.

767
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: I was like, there has to be a second account.

768
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 4: Someone's manipulating because you know, like on Instagram, Yeah, you

769
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 4: and I will like like probably have like lighter things

770
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: we talk about, like, oh my gosh, that's so funny.

771
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 4: How did this thing go? Yeah? And then all text

772
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: messages were like I love you blah blah blah, you

773
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Yeah, Like that could be miscommunicated,

774
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: like he'd been talking on one app like oh my gosh,

775
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: I love you and then the other app.

776
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: Like right, that's what I was thinking. Like she could

777
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: be like, oh, like I know I'm on that trap,

778
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: but like sometimes I go on on this one and

779
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: like talk to people in this one. It's like no

780
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: big deal. Yeah, you know, sometimes I'll message you on there,

781
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: sometimes I'll message you here. Yeah, Miss Woozy says Opie

782
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: has been traveling. I didn't realize that. I know she

783
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: went to Japan, but I didn't realize it was like

784
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: for so long.

785
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially you've been traveling, traveling for a couple of

786
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: months or or something.

787
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: It's probably been some years.

788
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: It's been this relationship for a couple of years.

789
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: Also, the mind f that you get thinking, oh, we've

790
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 4: been together for two years. Who have I been talking

791
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 4: to you for two years? What is happening right now?

792
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, this poor man, he's totally like At first,

793
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, what the heck, that's creepy. Why

794
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: is he just like where my hug at? But then

795
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: like he's just like a victim of catfishing, and he's

796
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: just like, no, no, say it isn't so, and you

797
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: don't love me?

798
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's like, I haven't seen you in years.

799
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

800
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 4: Kids, dude, dude, that would that would Oh oh my god.

801
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: I told him that it was not me and better

802
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: to check Drew on my behalf. He did. Months after that,

803
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: I received a text from Paulo saying he took screenshots

804
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: of a conversation between me and my girlfriend and Drew.

805
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: I asked him why he would do that, and he

806
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 4: told me because Drew was broken, wasted and didn't want

807
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: to eat. I was worried was I too harsh? But

808
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: was that his girlfriend crossing the line. A week later,

809
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: I returned to the city and went directly to Paulo's

810
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: house to see it myself. I read the messages and

811
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 4: told Paulo that's not me. I'm not denying it, but

812
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: I will not send photos from my uploaded one to

813
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: a private convo. And Paulo said he knows, and it's

814
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 4: really strange. I told him it was better not to

815
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: meet Drew and asked him to take care of him.

816
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: I also had a Paulo the gift I brought for

817
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: Drew's graduation. It's a Hello Kitty necklace. I never had

818
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: conversations with Drew again after that. A Paulo told me

819
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: that Drew was starting to recover and would take a

820
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: licensed test next year. And back to the present, I

821
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: know my relationship with Drew was over three years ago

822
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: and that reunion holds something for me. I lost a

823
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: close friend and was afraid on social media being catfish

824
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: with some girls, like I said, an old class make

825
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: confessed to me something that ruined my relationship with my

826
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: childhood best friend three years ago. The confession started in

827
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: chat when Rachel asked me to meet up and I

828
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 4: actually asked why. She said she'd tell me something important.

829
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 4: I told her I had alive and would be leaving

830
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: city two that same evening. Rachel insisted on meeting me

831
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: and I said yes. When we met, she reminded me

832
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: of what I told her at graduation. Oh yeah, that

833
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: Drew was waiting backstage. She started telling me something that

834
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 4: twisted my stomach and my mind went blank. She said

835
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 4: she gave a love letter to Drew, addressing her love

836
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 4: for Drew. She indicated an account there was when Drew

837
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 4: was ready and she had to chat. No, that's not

838
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: the plot twist. She actually used my name, my name

839
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: and catfished me and was still in touch with Drew

840
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: on that account even after she was pregnant with her

841
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 4: first wile what so instead of putting her name on

842
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 4: the life letter, she put Ope's name and then used

843
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: O Pee's name in the account.

844
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: While she's having children with another guy.

845
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: Dude, I gotta go play Sim's real quick husband.

846
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Yeah, literally, dude, that's crazy.

847
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: And second child that's upsetting. I just loicked straight into

848
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: her face. I could see guilt, but I really wanted

849
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 4: to throw water in her face for saying that her

850
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: husband or X actually questioned the paternity of their child.

851
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: I was lost. I didn't speak yet words came out,

852
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: asking if her children were Drew's. She said no. When

853
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: Drew stopped chatting with her, her ex left her and

854
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: the kids. I just laughed because I felt shot. I

855
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 4: was catfished. Andrew almost lost himself because of this obsessed girl.

856
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if she was obsessed with Drew or

857
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: with me or maybe with us.

858
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: That is cray.

859
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: Did she get catfish or was she Drew got catfish?

860
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: Catfish?

861
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: She was the ketch fish.

862
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: She was you, she was the base of the catfish.

863
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the bait.

864
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah he's the bait.

865
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the bait. That's a great way to put it. Wow.

866
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, just.

867
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: Like because it was one thing for her to be

868
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: catfishing and then it's a whole other thing to be

869
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: Like this is just like a chapter in this relationship's problems.

870
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: Like she she's pretty much cheating on her boyfriend or

871
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: husband or whoever, her baby daddy, and like having this

872
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: whole other like emotional affair, an online relationship with this

873
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: other guy. Oh my god, Like I feel like we

874
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: need I feel like that's the story that we usually hear,

875
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: and now we're getting the other side of it, and

876
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: it's just so wild.

877
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: Three years ago and I still remember what it felt

878
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: like when Drew told me I was horrible and not

879
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: the person he grew up as he told me I

880
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: was harsh on him and played with him the entire time.

881
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: He said, I used him and kept saying foul words

882
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 4: that gave me here. We never talked after that. Paulo

883
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: barely managed to tell me what happened to Drew and

884
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 4: told me he seemed different. And kept talking badly about me.

885
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: Other friends reached out, and I rudely said, let him

886
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 4: bad mouth me if that would make him move on.

887
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: It continued, I know how bad Drew's mouth is. A

888
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 4: friend even mentioned that Drew told them my bad breath

889
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 4: is due to my respiratory disease and that my back

890
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: actually has a huge mark and it's ugly on my skin.

891
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: Those are my insecurities. I really didn't think he would

892
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: tell everyone that it hurt, and I just accepted our

893
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: relationship was over worse. He even joked that he regretted

894
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: not getting a chance to hide my inhaler when I'm

895
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 4: losing my breath. That's how our friendship ended. I left

896
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: her without a word and drove directly near Drew's house

897
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: until our fall. It was dark. He was not home,

898
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: of course, I called Paulo and asked where Drew was

899
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 4: to tell him something. He didn't say a word and

900
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: just asked me where I was. I told him I

901
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: was in front of Drew's house, and moments later he arrived.

902
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: He drove to his house and actually asked if I

903
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: was okay. I told him I felt like crap, dirty

904
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: and used upset, and he was about to be mental.

905
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 4: He actually offered a beer, and that's when I started

906
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: talking about Rachel. We got wasted. I stayed for a

907
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 4: night that became two, and I started borrowing his clothes

908
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 4: because I actually stayed at his house for a week.

909
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 4: I couldn't function well. I lost my best friend. Guys,

910
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: you won't lose us. All you gotta do is go

911
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: immediately to your favorite podcast platform. Where is that that's on?

912
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: Uh? Whatever you choose Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, whatever.

913
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: You search up this word? Okay, story time okay, story

914
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 4: time and what's waiting for them?

915
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: Uh? Full episodes with more stories just like this one.

916
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: You're great, and there's so many of them.

917
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to put this one in the top ten. Dude,

918
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: I was not crazy. Top five plot twist, honestly, top three.

919
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: I can't think of another plot twist that I did

920
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: not see.

921
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: This is pretty wild. It's like it's just one of

922
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: those things where it's just like we we It's not

923
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: even like it's like more than a plot twist. It's

924
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: like there's a whole nother movie attached that could have

925
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: been a sequel, but it's actually just the same one.

926
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 4: Drew embrassed me among our friends, and I were defending myself.

927
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: Friends visited Paulo's house and some said I didn't wrong them,

928
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 4: and some said I must explain myself to him. I

929
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 4: can't go home at the moment. I feel like I'd

930
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: explode if I was alone. And since Paula was working

931
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: from home, I stayed at his house and he just

932
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 4: became my free caregiver. It's been two weeks since the

933
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: conversation with the Rachel happened. I'm planning to go back

934
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 4: to work, but I don't really have plans to tell

935
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 4: Drew what I heard, and I know Paulo will, but

936
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: this isn't the right time for Drew to actually hear this.

937
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 4: I actually don't know what to do, and I'm riding

938
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 4: this ease me at least.

939
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: Hey's Johnny og host here.

940
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but he's a

941
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: quick three minute break of as from our sponsors.

942
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: I want to confess to my friends about my past,

943
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: but I don't know how.

944
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 4: Get a flow chart and maybe a movie.

945
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: Three warning, there's mentions of loss of family and children

946
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: in a car crash. I've been through some crap. There's

947
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: no way to sugarcoat it. Three years ago, I was

948
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: married to the love of my life, Ben with the

949
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: most perfect human child that ever existed, Veronica and I.

950
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: I was five months pregnant with the boy. By the way,

951
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: this comes from Wanna Come Clean and if you want

952
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 3: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash

953
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: Okay story time separate it. We were hit by a

954
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: wasted driver at five pm the afternoon.

955
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 4: No, I did not see that coming.

956
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: We are just going right hitten hard from the start.

957
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: My husband and daughter passed away on the scene, and

958
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: I miscarried my son in the hospital later that night.

959
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: I was otherwise physically fine. It has not been an

960
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 3: easy road. There were times when I would have unlived myself,

961
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: except after losing my daughter. I'd never do that to

962
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: my mom. I took time off of work, I spent

963
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: time with friends and family. I went to therapy almost

964
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: every day. I grieved. I tried to go back to

965
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: my old job, but it just didn't work. I don't

966
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 3: blame my coworkers at all, but no one really treated

967
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: me normally. With everything they did, there was just this pity.

968
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: Every idea of mine was the greatest. Every joke I

969
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: told was the best. When I walked into rooms, people

970
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: stopped talking and focused on me. Everyone wanted to share

971
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: my workload and help me out. They were doing sing

972
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: what you would think any wonderful people would do, but

973
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: it felt terrible. I wanted to move on with my

974
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: life and feel normal. Six months ago, at twenty nine,

975
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: for the first time in my life, I moved out

976
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: on my own to a new state. I got a

977
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: new job, using no connections. No one knew me. I

978
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: moved to this new, faraway city and tried to recreate myself.

979
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: I had always wanted into sALS dance, so I started

980
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: going to a salsait at a bar and ended up

981
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: seeing four people there frequently three women and a man, Brenda, Donna, Kelly,

982
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: and Luke. Brenda, Donna and Luke were a few years

983
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: older than me. Donna and Luke are divorced with no kids,

984
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: not divorced from each other, and Kelly is the oldest

985
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: and is married with two kids. I started seeing them

986
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: at the bar every Thursday night and spending time there.

987
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: After a few weeks, we exchanged numbers and got together

988
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: for dinner. The rest is history. We were fast friends

989
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: and hung out about once a week. Sometimes, Donna and

990
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: I would see each other more often because she was

991
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: also single. The last six months have been the best

992
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: and worst I could have imagined. I needed people to

993
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: treat me as a human. I needed to not see

994
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: pity in their eyes when they looked at me. I

995
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: needed them to be honest with me, not just tell

996
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 3: me everything I did and said was the best idea ever.

997
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: Because I've suffered enough. It felt great for a while.

998
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: They called me out on my crap. They aggressively loved me.

999
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: I felt so normal. One weekend we went to the

1000
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: beach together. Kelly saw me in a bikini and exclaimed, uh,

1001
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: you're you're so thin. That is the body of a

1002
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: woman who has never had a baby, and laughed. She

1003
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: was complimenting me. I wanted to scream that my body

1004
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: grew the most perfect human that ever existed, and that

1005
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: my front airbags fed her for thirteen months. I suddenly

1006
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: cursed my body for not having stretch marks, when before

1007
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: it had seemed to be a blessing. Now Brenda has

1008
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 3: been dating someone seriously and they just got engaged. She's

1009
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 3: leaning heavily on Kelly and Donnis and s they've both

1010
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: been married and she wants advice. Sure, she wants my

1011
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: advice too, is a good friend, but she doesn't want

1012
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: to hear about my wedding that I had poured my

1013
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: heart and soul into because she doesn't know it happened.

1014
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: I guess I didn't think I'd become such great friends

1015
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: with these new people and want them to know more

1016
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: about me. Now I'm looking for the best way to

1017
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: tell these people that I am a widow who lost

1018
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: a child and a pregnancy along with her husband. I've

1019
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: known them for six months and we've gotten so close

1020
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: in so many ways. I don't say this to sound witchy,

1021
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: but I also know that I'll get a pass. No

1022
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: one will be mad at me that I haven't told

1023
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: them yet. Everyone will understand. I just want to tell

1024
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 3: them in the least dramatic way and to make sure

1025
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: they fully understand my reasons that my intentions for lying

1026
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: by a mission were selfish. But it's good and there

1027
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: are some comments. But so far, how do we think

1028
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: she should go about this? I mean, it's such a

1029
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 3: triggy situation.

1030
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 4: Well, no, I think it would be like, hey, guys,

1031
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: I want to tell you something like come to them

1032
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 4: clean and be like, I want you to know my

1033
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 4: why why I did this. I want you to know

1034
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: the impact that you guys have had in my life

1035
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: in this new and I want you to understand how

1036
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: much you have relieved me. So your why is everywhere

1037
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: i'd go, everyone would pity me. Yeah, the impact you

1038
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: guys gave me was actual, genuine fun and love. And

1039
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: you called me out and I didn't want to lose

1040
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 4: that because I hated feeling pity from people. But I

1041
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: respect you guys so much that you deserve to know this,

1042
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: and I call me a horrible human. You guys probably

1043
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: shouldn't know this because you're my friends, but this just felt.

1044
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: You know, this was such a nice change.

1045
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 3: We have some comments coming, Number one says, I think.

1046
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: Tell them some of what you have told us here.

1047
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: Tell them that you move somewhere to get a new start,

1048
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: to be treated normally. Tell them that their friendships have

1049
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: been so valuable and wonderful and has helped you heal.

1050
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: Then tell them that as you have become closer, you

1051
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: have wanted to share some of the positive aspects of

1052
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: your past that you feel compelled to speak up about

1053
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 3: the wedding you planned, the marriage you built, and child

1054
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: you carried and nurtured, and so you know you need

1055
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: to tell them what happened. Someone responds, I think this

1056
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 3: comment is spot on. They seem like ideal friends. As

1057
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: matter of fact, I think most of people go through

1058
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: life looking for exactly what you have now. Yes, it

1059
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: may be awkward for a bit, but they seem like

1060
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: a resilient group and will be understanding. Best of luck,

1061
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: and I hope you post the results.

1062
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: Ope.

1063
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: He responds, Yeah, I feel like I got really lucky.

1064
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: I met my husband when I was really young, and

1065
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: he and then my daughter were my whole life. I

1066
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 3: would have been so happy for them to be in

1067
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 3: my world forever, but I never had really close adult friends.

1068
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: It's really great. They aren't just people I sat next

1069
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: to in school. They are such great people, which I

1070
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: guess is why I want to handle this right. I'm

1071
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: not worried that there is something I could say that

1072
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: will scare them off. I just want to make this

1073
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: as easy as possible. Easy might not be the right word,

1074
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: but easy. Commutro Number two says, I'm going to tell

1075
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: you something that might sound counterintuitive given that you're looking

1076
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: to be honest, but framing is important. If you start

1077
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: your revelation by telling them that you've been lying to them,

1078
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: even by a mission, they're going to receive it as

1079
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: a story about how you lied to them. You have

1080
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: done nothing wrong here. You have done nothing dishonest. You

1081
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: have held back nothing that anyone was entitled to or

1082
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 3: needed to know. You did what you needed to at

1083
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: the cost of no harm to any living person. This

1084
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: is not a lie in my books. So maybe sit

1085
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: down and tell them there's a part of my life

1086
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: I haven't been ready to talk about until now, but

1087
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: now that we're so close, I can't imagine not sharing

1088
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: it with you, and work on thinking about it in

1089
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: those terms yourself. There's nothing to beat yourself up over here.

1090
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: I like that.

1091
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: I like that.

1092
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: I really like that too, and how how it was

1093
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 3: framed too.

1094
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: Like there has there's something in my life I've been

1095
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: ready to share yet Yeah, I'm ready to share it,

1096
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: not like, hey, I haven't told you something about myself?

1097
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 3: Right, And if that, like maybe is kind of weird

1098
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: to bring up because it would like change the subject.

1099
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: If you guys are talking, you can be like, hey,

1100
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: like something has just been on my mind for a while.

1101
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: I'd love to talk to you guys about it and like,

1102
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: share something that you didn't know about me, and.

1103
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 4: These people don't seem very toxic where they're going to

1104
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: take it home way. I hope not, Dude, it will

1105
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 4: break my heart if that's the case, Like, oh Ope

1106
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: gets a break.

1107
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hoping and banking on the fact that it won't.

1108
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 3: But we'll see. Oh peresponds, Oh, that is actually great.

1109
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 3: I struggle with how to bring it up. Do I

1110
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: write it out and then read it to them, et cetera.

1111
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: But that is a perfect way to frame it because

1112
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: it really is true. I wasn't trying to lie about

1113
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: who I am. I just wasn't ready to share that yet.

1114
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: Thank you how much? Your Number three says When you

1115
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 3: tell them, also clarify if you want to hear about

1116
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: their children or not. If you can handle their news,

1117
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: ask that they don't treat you differently. If it is

1118
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: too painful, then let them know. Ohpie says, yeah, that

1119
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: is a biggie. For three years after no one shared

1120
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: that part of their life with me. At first, it

1121
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: was a blessing because I did not want to hear

1122
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: about anyone's happy marriage and healthy children. But slowly I

1123
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 3: wanted back into that world. I want people to know

1124
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: that they can share their joys with me, and I

1125
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 3: will be so happy for them. Someone responds, rather than tell,

1126
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: can you show them? Invite them over for dinner and

1127
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: softly explain your past, sharing pictures of daughter and from

1128
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: your wedding. I think that they will be hurt by

1129
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: the withheld information, but is definitely not a daily conversation.

1130
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't think they'd be hurt by it. I think

1131
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: they would just be like, oh wow, I had no idea,

1132
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: Opie says, I do like this idea. They've never been

1133
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: to my home, so I think having them over they'd

1134
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: immediately see photos. Great way to do it, just be

1135
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 3: like hey, subtle hints and then they can see it

1136
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: from themselves and then ask about it.

1137
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: That would be such a movie. That feels like such

1138
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: a movie.

1139
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, my house is not a sh trying to

1140
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: my family. But I have a couple of pictures for

1141
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: my wedding and a couple of Veronica. Obviously, I have

1142
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 3: books of thousands, but not all in your face. I

1143
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: had barely popped with my son. But I have one

1144
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 3: picture that is my absolute favorite picture in the world.

1145
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: Ben is holding Veronica and has his arm around me

1146
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 3: all the way around until his hand is on my belly,

1147
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: making it obvious there is a bump there. It's the

1148
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: only picture I have of the three of us that

1149
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: shows off my bump, my poor little boy who never

1150
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: made it into this world. I love that picture so much.

1151
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: I want everyone to see that picture. And we do

1152
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: have an update after all this. Yeah, I think we

1153
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: got some really really good advice in that comment section,

1154
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: for sure, But should we just roll right into it

1155
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: or do you have something.

1156
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to break it down.

1157
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 3: Update, so I really want to first take a moment

1158
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: to talk about how awesome my experience in this sub

1159
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: has been. I knew that I wanted to tell my

1160
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: friends the story of my past, and I knew that

1161
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: they would react pretty well, and I knew that they'd

1162
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: be supportive and we'd remain close friends. I really just

1163
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 3: didn't know how to bring it up after six months.

1164
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if I expressed it in my first post,

1165
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: but six months is kind of a long time. I

1166
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: feel so close to these people in so many ways.

1167
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: Though mostly it was just weird to me to not

1168
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: be able to casually mention my family I absolutely still

1169
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: have days where it's hard to get out of bed

1170
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 3: and I just want to be left alone to cry

1171
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: in the dark. But so many times I think of

1172
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: happy memories with my family and adorable things that Veronica

1173
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: did that I'm reminded of, and I want to be

1174
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: able to pepper those into my conversations. I struggled with

1175
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: how to tell people one on one big group dinner email,

1176
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: so I actually emailed them all the day after my

1177
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: first post here and invited them over for dinner the

1178
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 3: next night if they could make it on short notice.

1179
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: I said to please bring their significant others. But I

1180
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: told Kelly that i'd explain later why I think that

1181
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: she shouldn't bring her kids this time. Honestly, I was

1182
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: just afraid that she'd get really upset and wouldn't want

1183
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: her kids to see her like that. She couldn't get

1184
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 3: a sitter, so her husband stayed home with the kids,

1185
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: but Brenda and Luke brought their significant others and I

1186
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: made a huge pot of chili and some corn bread.

1187
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: I feel like they sense something was up, because, honestly

1188
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: I thought I the odds of them all being able

1189
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: to come with one day's notice was unusual. They showed

1190
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: up early this evening and we sat in my living

1191
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 3: room tight quarters and had some wine, and then I started,

1192
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm an awkward person, so I basically said, I have

1193
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: some big information about my past that I really want

1194
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: to share with you. It's not something that I share

1195
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 3: with everyone I meet, and it's hard to bring up.

1196
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: But now so much time has gone by and I

1197
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: feel so close to you all, and I really want

1198
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: you to know this part of my life. I think

1199
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: it'll be emotional for you all to hear about, and

1200
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: I think it'll slightly change our dynamic for a while.

1201
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: But I'm also really excited to share this with you.

1202
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: A couple of the girls were already teary. I didn't

1203
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: know if they'd googled me or already knew what I

1204
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: was going to say, or if they could just sense

1205
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: the emotion in my voice. I wanted the next part

1206
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: to be really blunt and not beat around the bush,

1207
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: and first set it up so that they wouldn't see

1208
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 3: where I'm going. I said, three years ago, my husband,

1209
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: my two year old daughter, and I were in a

1210
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: car accident, and when I was five months pregnant, my

1211
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: husband and daughter were unlived instantly and I lost the

1212
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: sun I was carrying, but it was otherwise physically okay.

1213
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: Everyone was silently sobbing at this point, including me. I

1214
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: told them why I moved away, why I wanted to

1215
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: start fresh, and why now I needed them to know

1216
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 3: my story. Kelly got up and came over and sat

1217
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: on the floor by my feet and cried into my

1218
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: lap for a while. This is gonna give me you guys,

1219
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: this is hard. Uh.

1220
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to finish the story because our other beautiful

1221
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 4: co host is having a moment. I stroked her hair

1222
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: and told her it was okay, and that her kids

1223
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: are the first kids I had contact with since Veronica,

1224
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: and it genuinely gave me so much joy around them.

1225
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: I said that the only thing I would change is

1226
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: that I'd like to share stories about our kids and

1227
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: talk about what Veronica liked to play with or the

1228
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 4: words she would say diper rash. We were all still crying,

1229
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 4: but there was a lot of smiling and joking too.

1230
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: I tried to break the eyes a little with Kelly

1231
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 4: and said, you know what this means, right, I had

1232
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 4: a baby and still look hot in a bikini. We

1233
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 4: giggled and she said, OMG, I can't believe I said that.

1234
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 4: I said, I take it as a compliment and assured

1235
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 4: them all I would not hold anything against them. They

1236
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: said previously that in the light of this information could

1237
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 4: now be seen as offensive. It wrapped up so neatly

1238
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: like a garsh darn sitcom. And I mean, they are

1239
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: good people, and I knew it would with all I've

1240
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: been through. I'm choosy about who I let into my life,

1241
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 4: and I could tell they were good people and who

1242
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: would react well. But they've also been friends for so long.

1243
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 4: It always kind of feels like I'm the new kid

1244
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: and we aren't all in equal footing. I am glad

1245
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: I told them all together, though, and instead of telling

1246
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 4: them individually. I honestly don't think I could have handled

1247
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: that emotionally. Going through it took a lot out of me.

1248
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 4: Brenda actually said that was when we first met. She

1249
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: was looking up to see if I had a Facebook.

1250
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 4: She came across the headline about my accident, but didn't

1251
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 4: click on it because the headline was so horrific, and

1252
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: she assumed it was just someone with the same name.

1253
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 4: We finally ate Chili around ten thirty. I do think

1254
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: they'll tread lightly around me for a while. But I

1255
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 4: also think this is going to bring us closer. And

1256
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 4: I don't intend to bring up my family often, but

1257
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm glad now I can share stories about my wedding, planning,

1258
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: child birth, and feeding, et cetera. I never wanted someone

1259
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 4: I could cry about to missing my family. Honestly, that's

1260
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: mine and mine alone. I still go to therapy so

1261
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: if I'm not keeping it inside, but it just doesn't

1262
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 4: work for me to express my grief over my loss

1263
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: to others. Thanks for helping me talk about this, Reddit.

1264
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: Thank you to those who sent me pms, sharing your

1265
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: own losses, or just wishing me well. I could have

1266
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: not had this particular conversation with anyone in my real life.

1267
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: You're all really here for me. That means a lot.

1268
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: And dude, this is when Reddi freaking comes through. Reddit

1269
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: comes through, and it does a beautiful thing.