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Speaker 3: This week, we're gonna take it.
Speaker 2: All the way back to February thirteenth, twenty nineteen for
Speaker 2: part two of our Black TV Writers Roundtable, where we
Speaker 2: chop it up with our good friends Tracy Ashley, Diallo Riddle,
Speaker 2: Sheer saladein My Brothers from Sherman Showcase, and Angela Nissel,
Speaker 2: who is getting a lot of.
Speaker 3: Love right now from her mentioned in Dave.
Speaker 2: Chappelle's Much bescer So Yeah, Angie doing your thing love her.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: We sit down with them, we talk about how the
Speaker 2: black media landscape is changing, and we get into a
Speaker 2: whole lot more So.
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Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 3: Last week on Quest Love Supreme, I introduced you guys
Speaker 3: to four black writers currently working in Hollywood, Angela Missile,
Speaker 3: Diallar Riddle, and Tracy Ashley. Collectively, they've written for shows
Speaker 3: like Scrubs Now with Jimmy Fallons, The Last O G
Speaker 3: and many many more. Hey, let's not waste any time.
Speaker 3: Let's get right back to the conversation. So like the
Speaker 3: old shows, the old black shows, let's say, like like
Speaker 3: the Jefferson's What's Happening? Did they have black writers or
Speaker 3: you know, like.
Speaker 5: They most absolute mostly good, very much mostly did not
Speaker 5: was it was?
Speaker 3: It was incredible?
Speaker 6: Yeah, normanly are actually just I just listened to a
Speaker 6: podcast he did and he talked about that. How I
Speaker 6: think he said the black the Black Panthers showed up
Speaker 6: at his at the studio because they were mad that
Speaker 6: they were like this white man is writing this this story.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I don't think they have.
Speaker 5: The way there was some black authorship was the star
Speaker 5: usually had some level of veto power.
Speaker 3: So that's the role.
Speaker 5: When you got a script could then be like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Say this.
Speaker 5: But that's like the very last level. But right before that,
Speaker 5: there was nobody in that room.
Speaker 3: Briefly, on Sanford and Son, I know that Paul Mooney
Speaker 3: and Richard Pryor were brought into.
Speaker 8: By the way, A lot of people don't realize Sanford
Speaker 8: and Son was actually an import from the UK.
Speaker 9: People.
Speaker 3: The junk step. How long was that on?
Speaker 5: This is before the days of BBC America, So we
Speaker 5: don't we have no idea.
Speaker 3: So of the four of you, who's getting fired?
Speaker 5: How many of you are always always aware of that?
Speaker 3: How many of you are willing to truly sacrifice for
Speaker 3: the greater good? Now? I know, I know there's a
Speaker 3: load of questions because I know that usually a lot
Speaker 3: of nepotism and sort of the patriarchy, like the system
Speaker 3: of starting out as an intern and then becoming a writer,
Speaker 3: then a head writer, and then next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: your network head. I know that's very hard for black
Speaker 3: people to even fathom that situation. Usually you're worn out
Speaker 3: and tired after ten to fifteen years of this bullshit.
Speaker 3: But how many of you are thinking past writer, head
Speaker 3: writer and showrunner to I would like to run the network?
Speaker 3: And especially all right, I would assume that for women,
Speaker 3: and I see this often. You know when I investigate
Speaker 3: the culinary world, most women don't last in those high
Speaker 3: end the kitchen situ because you have to really give
Speaker 3: like fifteen to twenty five years of your life in
Speaker 3: that situation. Usually you want to have kids and you
Speaker 3: retire after a while. So are you are you even
Speaker 3: thinking about in twenty thirty five, I'd like to be
Speaker 3: president of the network, so that way I could really
Speaker 3: open doors.
Speaker 9: Well, I think that for us, I don't know any
Speaker 9: for us, the highest.
Speaker 10: Thing you can do is be a showrunner, is to
Speaker 10: be somebody like a Kenya Barris.
Speaker 9: For I don't think too many writers actually want to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different track.
Speaker 9: That nobody has to run a network.
Speaker 3: I would assume that now that Shonda Rhymes is kind
Speaker 3: of in the is she the besides Oprah the highest
Speaker 3: level where you could be in the game? Right now?
Speaker 3: I think so?
Speaker 9: Yeah, she runs her own production company.
Speaker 3: Right So if Shonda Rhymes not even eight steps away
Speaker 3: from oprah hood, if she goes on this.
Speaker 5: Role, my two cents would be she's as close to
Speaker 5: being somebody who has that network power without giving up
Speaker 5: the thing which is the reason we get up in
Speaker 5: the morning because we feel like artists and we want
Speaker 5: to go make art. I mean, I wouldn't you know
Speaker 5: I know this. I know A and M Records were
Speaker 5: started by uh right, I think most but you know
Speaker 5: that's a that's sort of a parallel thing in a
Speaker 5: sense of like, well those guys were musicians and they
Speaker 5: said we got to got our own label.
Speaker 3: It does happen.
Speaker 2: But you know, even with that, it was one guy
Speaker 2: that was really music and the other guy was the business.
Speaker 9: On the show still get notes from a network? Yeah
Speaker 9: she still?
Speaker 3: Yes, does she honor all those notes? Who knows? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Well here's me asking is willing to sacrifice because you know, like,
Speaker 3: but it's already, but one day he has a black woman.
Speaker 3: There are black executives who writes women who they're about
Speaker 3: to take over some things.
Speaker 5: It's coming. No, it's happening. That's why Roseanne. Roseanne happened
Speaker 5: because the black woman was.
Speaker 11: Like a black woman named Zone one. Just you know,
Speaker 11: whatever you think of it, it's there.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying it has it happened. I'm saying,
Speaker 3: who in this room is willing to how far are
Speaker 3: you willing to go in this this trek, in this
Speaker 3: journey of television of being able to be fired?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I'm like again, I don't for me personally, yeah,
Speaker 10: but a lot of men I would love again for me,
Speaker 10: if you just go to movies, if what my girlfriend
Speaker 10: and I were, if what me and my girlfriends talk
Speaker 10: about is right, you know, and there hasn't been a
Speaker 10: black female half an hour comedy network showrunner, broadcast showrunner
Speaker 10: since the nineties. I mean, I've been in this since
Speaker 10: two thousand and two. I can't give up, now what
Speaker 10: else can I do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 10: And I like being able to help other younger people
Speaker 10: like Tracy come in and do you know, so if
Speaker 10: it ain't me, it's going to be her hopefully. So
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not giving up until I'm dead. What
Speaker 10: the hell that's one of y'all gonna take me in
Speaker 10: and me your sugar dad.
Speaker 8: I think the ability, I think the ability to create
Speaker 8: new shows, new characters, new environments. I think that's what
Speaker 8: you know, juveniles, you know what I mean, as opposed
Speaker 8: to the desire to have other people bring us those
Speaker 8: things and be like, Okay, well you're gonna get eight
Speaker 8: pm on Wednesday, Like I don't. I just think that
Speaker 8: that's a slightly different thing, you know, And maybe sometimes
Speaker 8: people will make that jump, you know, but you know,
Speaker 8: so what I'm feeling here.
Speaker 3: Is that the there's a limit to your Sky.
Speaker 10: Network executive and like none of us if we were
Speaker 10: executive network executives, we wouldn't be able to write and
Speaker 10: create new characters.
Speaker 8: Any network executives and maybe one of them will become
Speaker 8: head of their network.
Speaker 5: I just you know, I mean, can I just say
Speaker 5: for me? It's like if you I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not a Picasso, but I'm saying if you
Speaker 2: went to Picasso and said, you know, you really got
Speaker 2: to run a museum man, and he'd be like, I
Speaker 2: just want to I'm a painter.
Speaker 3: Like, so I'm saying, like, it's the top who's willing
Speaker 3: to sacrifice? Who wants to sacrifice?
Speaker 2: Like I love doing this, but was creative and then
Speaker 2: he stopped being creative and became president for the Greater
Speaker 2: Good to bring a susher, to bring a STLC, to
Speaker 2: bring it, you know on he.
Speaker 3: Jones was a trumpet player and love scoring. Would he
Speaker 3: but okay?
Speaker 2: But would he have kept doing that had the deal
Speaker 2: been selling like ten twenty million records?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Would he have seen the moment and he jumped at it? Now?
Speaker 3: We asked Jimmy jam the same thing, like would you
Speaker 3: want to stop creating music and producing just to you know,
Speaker 3: to be in the front office and not be creative?
Speaker 3: He said, no, I didn't want to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I understand That's why I was asking.
Speaker 2: I think what's creatives just don't people don't think like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, you kind of do what you do just
Speaker 2: because that's I want to do that like.
Speaker 3: But I will say I think about it all the
Speaker 3: time though, ye, so you know.
Speaker 5: But I would say, just really quickly, go ahead.
Speaker 6: I have to admit that that actually did cross my
Speaker 6: mind being at CBS and being on this show, because
Speaker 6: I was looking around at all the executives.
Speaker 3: All right, oh, we developed over there.
Speaker 5: But you know, I just wanted to say really quick
Speaker 5: that Kevin Hart is starting is on network right now.
Speaker 5: The way the media landscape is changing, between cord cutting,
Speaker 5: there's seven, you know, there's I think I might be
Speaker 5: making this number. I think there was like thirteen hundred
Speaker 5: new TV shows or something like that, or maybe let's say,
Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, let's say it's three hundred. That's still
Speaker 5: three hundred things. Everybody ain't watching all that shit. So
Speaker 5: I'm saying it's a little bit of a different terrain
Speaker 5: than the seventies. I think there are definitely talented people
Speaker 5: now who are saying, look, I can just get an
Speaker 5: app on your TV the way that other people. The
Speaker 5: Netflix has an app and you'll watch the but sheer network,
Speaker 5: and then that'll be the way that I, you know,
Speaker 5: corral the conversation and be able to give green light
Speaker 5: power to people. And I think that's already actually happening
Speaker 5: right now. There are people creating networks right now that
Speaker 5: utilize technology to be the people who are in charge.
Speaker 5: Puppy out Revolt.
Speaker 11: I'm scared for Kevin Hart though, because I wonder, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 11: how many people because there are so many outlets, how
Speaker 11: many people.
Speaker 7: Are going to the LOL network or whatever?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe that's the next part of it, right.
Speaker 11: It's like, so, what is the other thing that's going
Speaker 11: to be created that you can be a boss and
Speaker 11: maybe not be a network exact it, maybe not to
Speaker 11: be an app.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I hate to ask this question. Is Revolt a nationwide?
Speaker 2: It depends on I've yet to see we get it get.
Speaker 3: We get in Carolina. Who's your cable provider? We ship
Speaker 3: it's been brought like fifty providers.
Speaker 11: It's not about the providers. It's on Comcast, is on Time,
Speaker 11: Warner's on Charter. It's about the cities that they're in
Speaker 11: because it's not on it's not in the.
Speaker 3: Spectrum in New York City, and I still don't get
Speaker 3: it where he will be like watch my showing. Fuse'd
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, that's true, challenge. You can't even tell.
Speaker 5: This is the only time in history, Like you can
Speaker 5: be at a restaurant sitting next somebody who is a
Speaker 5: fucking star on TV show you don't know who they are,
Speaker 5: and somebody comes to it's an autograph. Who are you?
Speaker 3: I got you know?
Speaker 2: I got a TV show on pal I'm a Palladium brock.
Speaker 3: Legit starts is l O L and actual, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Network, he's buying studio space out in uh Chatsworth, Like
Speaker 5: he's he's doing this. This is happening. I went out
Speaker 5: there and saw the space like there, this is happening.
Speaker 11: Someone spread itself then and nothing b as.
Speaker 2: With the with the whole like core cutting thing, just
Speaker 2: in terms of the economics of TV scary, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean because to me it just doesn't seem like and
Speaker 2: I don't know how it affects like writers and actors
Speaker 2: and stuff, because like, yeah, people are cutting the cores,
Speaker 2: but they still jacking you up to ask for the Internet.
Speaker 5: So the amount of the amount of people who watch
Speaker 5: each TV show has gone down the amount of individuals
Speaker 5: who spend their day watching TV. It's fine. It's actually
Speaker 5: that number is consistent. So the people in this room
Speaker 5: will always have offers and stuff because it's like we
Speaker 5: create content it.
Speaker 8: Then I will say, you know, you got to have
Speaker 8: ten jobs. So I will say so I want to
Speaker 8: say this. We are developing another show with I f C.
Speaker 8: You know, and uh and we're very excited about the
Speaker 8: produced by John Legend, our composer. Fund Take a look
Speaker 8: in the room.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 8: One of the things that I noticed when I was
Speaker 8: talking to some of the some of the millennial assistants.
Speaker 8: I would be like, hey, so how do y'all watch
Speaker 8: cable TV? You know, like because I have to steal it?
Speaker 8: And they'd be like they'd be like, well, you know, uh,
Speaker 8: like none of them will actually pay for cable, Like
Speaker 8: somebody on watch it once I once it goes on Netflix.
Speaker 8: Somebody else was like, well, I never cut the cord
Speaker 8: because I never had a cord.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put somebody. I want to put somebody on blast.
Speaker 5: Who I live with, who I married watches and we
Speaker 5: watch every real house we watch all of those. We
Speaker 5: do not have cable in our house. How we watch
Speaker 5: all those shows every night on the TV in the
Speaker 5: living room. That's the question you should ask yourself. I
Speaker 5: don't know. It's the website to special website. Yeah, we
Speaker 5: watched every one of those. I'm like, this is evil.
Speaker 7: You got a fire stick you ain't never got And.
Speaker 5: The kids can't even understand paying for content. They don't
Speaker 5: even they don't get content we paid for.
Speaker 7: I don't pay for content. I used my mother's cable
Speaker 7: when I log.
Speaker 2: In, when nobody paid for television. Yeah, they just paid
Speaker 2: for the box. Yeah box, that's true. I wanted I
Speaker 2: got my So you talk about millennials, my nephew, I
Speaker 2: guess we want to watch Handmate's tail. And so he
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, give us the He was like, I
Speaker 2: give you my Hulu pass with him, like all right,
Speaker 2: And I pulled that ship.
Speaker 3: And it was like five other profiles because or do
Speaker 3: you consider internet based tvcies real shows? Or one?
Speaker 5: Amazon? By the way, I'm on I'm on Netflix. Shout
Speaker 5: out Netflix, Let's go glow.
Speaker 3: But episode eight or whatever, the actual show the.
Speaker 5: One that But can I just say something, But Amazon
Speaker 5: has some of the best terrible black movies.
Speaker 3: Listen in the world. Watch every single one of them.
Speaker 2: Watch you watch this the ones with your boy murdered pain, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I watch all They shout out to the game, Uh,
Speaker 2: the one it takes place like Detroit, Like he's in
Speaker 2: the plug, the.
Speaker 3: Plug to the plug too. Yeah, we watched that one.
Speaker 5: Watch they talking about Amazon realized that it don't matter
Speaker 5: the level of money people spend on it. If it's available,
Speaker 5: Black people will watch that ship. Amazon will buy it.
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of bat ballots on about it looked
Speaker 3: like the goddamn God, like you know, on the bluff
Speaker 3: that level.
Speaker 2: Yo, good, Yeah, that's the piece the bluff. These movies
Speaker 2: have no s These movies have no d P. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting here in my living room watching the movie. It
Speaker 2: was like this whole scene, there's nothing.
Speaker 8: Sometimes you won't see a character for forty minutes, minutes,
Speaker 8: back up and you'll be.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, he's still the movie.
Speaker 5: That's content. I mean, but that's content. I'm watching it
Speaker 5: in the living room. Okay, shout out Amazon and Amazon too.
Speaker 5: I think they do a good Neflicis. Don't kill me
Speaker 5: for that because they they watch it. They don't listen
Speaker 5: to Netflix.
Speaker 2: They glow glow gloss okay, glow is though Netflix they
Speaker 2: have they black movies because like I watch, you know,
Speaker 2: because like they it's all this ship like the world
Speaker 2: is a fucking algorithm.
Speaker 3: So like I watched, Yes, I watched, they have level
Speaker 3: they should I watch. Netflix has Church plays Netflix.
Speaker 2: They're like, there's a movie here, get down on their
Speaker 2: laptop immediately. Boy By is a movie written you wants Houston,
Speaker 2: you will.
Speaker 3: Starrying Wendy ri Carol Robinson.
Speaker 2: And in case you were wondering, there is a line
Speaker 2: in the movie where she says.
Speaker 3: Boy By, Yeah, the movie spoilers bro clipped. The pole
Speaker 3: is not in that one, yo. You know who's even
Speaker 3: like twelve of them?
Speaker 2: Know who was in Cana is not in that way.
Speaker 2: It's the saddest thing is that all those movies, there's
Speaker 2: always one person who's like a little too big.
Speaker 3: Like that motherfuckers. Look right, didn't you have your own TV?
Speaker 8: John Amos? In The Watermelon, you were like the water
Speaker 8: That's what real movie.
Speaker 3: You'd be like Villica Foxes, Yo? Did that? You know?
Speaker 7: Did the conversation go down?
Speaker 3: But you want some money?
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, it's the twenty eighth I know that Muggae
Speaker 2: is doing the first.
Speaker 3: You could either you could not get paid or you
Speaker 3: could get paid. That boy by so much one what
Speaker 3: was the September. I mean it's it's good bad, but
Speaker 3: it's sequels to movies. You didn't know. It's like five
Speaker 3: can play that game they have like twy four. Oh
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, there was a sequel to that ship
Speaker 3: they call it.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, I was ty was one of the first,
Speaker 2: like was was one of the first movies I can remember.
Speaker 2: I was in college. This was my firstman year at
Speaker 2: Central and they marketed twil like it was a fucking
Speaker 2: wrap out.
Speaker 5: They came to campus. One of the producers came to
Speaker 5: Harvard and was talking to us. They came, there is.
Speaker 3: A twy four I just made that up. Damn, we're
Speaker 3: off your schedule. Out Yah, check that out. I love
Speaker 3: that stuff. That stuff is great. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite
Speaker 3: black act all Powell.
Speaker 8: Damn he's Clifton Powell came all the way back to
Speaker 8: two two seven, right you Clifton days.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Quincy.
Speaker 9: Shot that out with the Street.
Speaker 5: Clifton po the gangster, He's in everything, He's in everything.
Speaker 2: And Clinton Powell like, yeah, he'll be like in like
Speaker 2: a murder Pain movie and then you'll see that nigga
Speaker 2: like Black Panther three.
Speaker 3: It's like he has a wide range.
Speaker 5: You know what he likes to work. Yeah, I would
Speaker 5: give him that. He every day he wakes up like
Speaker 5: I'm going to somebody set. Somebody's putting me in front
Speaker 5: of the camera today.
Speaker 3: So like as writers like, tell us what shows do
Speaker 3: y'all like better? Like Ricking Morton, y'all are like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is great writing.
Speaker 5: Yo, sell Rick Morton. No, no, no, I hear. I think
Speaker 5: what said about the audience is true. I don't think
Speaker 5: you should. I don't think it's smart when you watch it,
Speaker 5: however you feel about it's the real ship.
Speaker 3: Ricking Morty is on only show I know that.
Speaker 5: It's as funny as it is and also still has
Speaker 5: jokes that have layers for like people who are nerds
Speaker 5: but you don't need.
Speaker 3: But you don't need.
Speaker 10: I'm about to say men will be watching that and
Speaker 10: be like, oh my god, they just went into the
Speaker 10: conspiracy thing.
Speaker 9: Yes, but I just laughed.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't know if it's I mean, someone
Speaker 3: told me watch rick and Morty the Ship.
Speaker 2: Watch baskets to I was about to do it.
Speaker 3: Also showing gum another one.
Speaker 5: By the way, really funny, not trying to be like
Speaker 5: like just hard jokes.
Speaker 9: What do you think about that?
Speaker 7: What you and I'm having?
Speaker 11: And yeah, not every bad woman gets my love. I
Speaker 11: mean I tried to try to support the girl Jessica
Speaker 11: and her Brooklyn Jessica Day was on the Daily Ship.
Speaker 3: That was awful. My lord, I watch Two Funky Girls.
Speaker 3: Wait what is it?
Speaker 4: Don't wait?
Speaker 11: But he has a show on Netflix and I tried
Speaker 11: it was a movie that wasn't it was a movie
Speaker 11: but the white guys, Yeah a movie.
Speaker 3: It was too millennially.
Speaker 7: New Brooklyn for me.
Speaker 3: I think feel you were too old for.
Speaker 7: Maybe black.
Speaker 9: I like to go with too black, Like what's your
Speaker 9: favorite show?
Speaker 11: Don't do that because the first one to come to
Speaker 11: mind is family, guy, Please don't judge me.
Speaker 3: Really watch television?
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, too much?
Speaker 3: Is weird because most people I know that are in
Speaker 3: the TV world, Like it's there, it's beneath him to
Speaker 3: watch television. Every watch everything you have to you gotta watch.
Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, most of what I watch is drama lately.
Speaker 3: I mean like.
Speaker 8: Kids, kids, like the kids the second the kids go
Speaker 8: to bed. I watched a lot of depressing, dark adult
Speaker 8: stuff that.
Speaker 4: Around the room.
Speaker 3: Okay, around the room. What are your what's your two
Speaker 3: go to shows? Well, right now I'm actually getting caught up.
Speaker 3: I can't live without no, I'm getting caught up on
Speaker 3: Fear of the Walking Dead. I mean, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: lie to you, damn it. Uh I read the comic.
Speaker 3: You could only name one? All right, give me your
Speaker 3: give me your your your your guilty Pleasure. I'm ashamed
Speaker 3: of I watched this show. I can't quite go there.
Speaker 3: Say it. We're all gonna be honest. Just say it.
Speaker 7: Pull up your Netflix real quick, just say it.
Speaker 3: You know what I know when blah blah blah. I
Speaker 3: can tell you when Gold Girls on My ass is
Speaker 3: on the couch watching that ship show.
Speaker 11: Yeah, gold Girls, guilty Pleasure show that you you.
Speaker 3: Know, Real Housewives or like reality I mean black in Chicago.
Speaker 3: I don't feel proud.
Speaker 2: About I'm gonna tell you what's on my director.
Speaker 3: You right, watch when something's on that you're ashamed to
Speaker 3: say that you watch? What is that show? Okay? I
Speaker 3: say it's keeping up with the Cardigan. Listen. I've never
Speaker 3: seen that. I don't love to watch it regularly. I
Speaker 3: know I don't watch them. I know because I just
Speaker 3: pulled it up, but I was, like, I know, I
Speaker 3: watched something.
Speaker 8: My guilty pleasure is actually the show called the nineteen
Speaker 8: Eighties The Deadliest Decade.
Speaker 3: It's at the.
Speaker 8: Time on Discovery, I did, which is the best channel.
Speaker 3: Wait, what the hell is that? Okay? Investigator.
Speaker 8: Discovery is basically like a twenty four hour forty eight
Speaker 8: hours slash date line, where like every show is about
Speaker 8: like people who are married killing one another. So it's
Speaker 8: always like they were the perfect couple. It seemed they
Speaker 8: had everything until she showed up missing after the boat trip.
Speaker 8: Like that's basically the whole And they have this one
Speaker 8: show called nineteen Eighties The Deadliest Decade. The thing I
Speaker 8: like about it, on top of like marriages falling apart,
Speaker 8: which is perversely fantastic to.
Speaker 3: Me, is all the old footage.
Speaker 8: Like I could actually watch old footage on YouTube all
Speaker 8: the time. Like, so last night I was watching U
Speaker 8: As It Happened footage from LA TV news shows of the.
Speaker 3: North Ridge quake.
Speaker 8: Oh, you know, like I just like to watch, like, oh,
Speaker 8: how do we react in the moment that it was
Speaker 8: announced that John Lennon died, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: like cause I like the old like graphics and I like,
Speaker 8: you know, like the grainy footage and like, you know
Speaker 8: the best part to me in Cocaine Cowboys is like
Speaker 8: when they show like you know, like Miami footage of
Speaker 8: like the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they're like, there were.
Speaker 8: Three people found dead in this apartment tonight, like you know,
Speaker 8: and you're just like the footage itself is scary because
Speaker 8: it's like, why is this so dark? And like Rainy
Speaker 8: and Gan Cowboys too is the one to hustle them
Speaker 8: with the Godmother? That was my one of course about Discovery.
Speaker 8: Disappointed with that answer, but that's the Discovery.
Speaker 3: I do still believe the Kardashians. I can't live without
Speaker 3: what What's Your Show?
Speaker 5: Star Trek de Space nine? But okay, What's show?
Speaker 3: Go to the show that I watched way too much of?
Speaker 5: Man, I watch a ton of Uh damn, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: I honestly I watch a lot of family Guys. I
Speaker 5: think it's still to this day. I'm a cord cutter,
Speaker 5: so I gotta wait for it to seep into other ship.
Speaker 5: But yeah, every time I watch it when.
Speaker 7: It comes on TVs and then you watch.
Speaker 3: It on I'm saying, I love that show.
Speaker 5: I think that show is I think I like, I like.
Speaker 3: What's your what's your guilty pleasure show? Ruppulse rag Race. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just say though that those people are incredible, the
Speaker 5: funniest and they and I'm from a conservative muscle family.
Speaker 5: So we had him at the house on Thanksgiving and
Speaker 5: my father was like, what in the brother, I've made
Speaker 5: so many mistakes and I was like, okay.
Speaker 6: Lot, I will be I will admit, I will sit
Speaker 6: binge watch shows I watched. I binge watched RuPaul's Drag Race.
Speaker 6: But the thing I'm watching now is the Americans. I'm watching.
Speaker 6: Everybody says it's good, it's really good, it's great because
Speaker 6: I want it's great, and but my guilty pleasure is
Speaker 6: I have to admit love and hip hop, the one
Speaker 6: with Atlanta or the one with Stevie J.
Speaker 3: That's the one incredible watch indible.
Speaker 7: Come on, she's already been on it. She he already
Speaker 7: broke up with her once and now they back to GAVL.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I don't yeah, go ahead, I don't.
Speaker 11: Know because I watched way too much TV. I'm right now,
Speaker 11: I'm just looking forward to the Ozark.
Speaker 4: So good.
Speaker 7: Anything that Jason Bateman and to me is generally good development.
Speaker 7: I don't say I'm rest development because.
Speaker 3: I love this year with the drinks in society. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't like.
Speaker 2: I was just I think to me, like Breaking Bad
Speaker 2: was like the pinnacle of White Man goes into scary
Speaker 2: dark territory, like ship like that was I.
Speaker 11: Was guilty pleasure staying on adult Swim Robot Chicken.
Speaker 3: That's not a guilty pleasure. That's well loved. Somebody who
Speaker 3: enjoys marijuana. Yeah, that's just a night.
Speaker 11: And as a black and black black person, it's like
Speaker 11: it wouldn't you would be my guilty pleasure because people
Speaker 11: want to expect this.
Speaker 7: I like, like a white boy, I.
Speaker 5: Like that every reference, I feel like it's for me
Speaker 5: because I'm like them did ten minutes on he Man.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's my ship and it's only fifteen minutes long. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: By the way, he Man is on Netflix right now.
Speaker 5: That ship is so good, so good. No, no, I
Speaker 5: mean the.
Speaker 3: Cartoon and Killing Eve. I watched Killing Eve.
Speaker 7: I remember when Laundry played He.
Speaker 12: Man what's on Killing Killing Evendre and uh oh I
Speaker 12: just started just ordered it on.
Speaker 3: So it's good. It's good. You really enjoyed it. This
Speaker 3: season one is impeccable. Uh the joint I'm watching right now,
Speaker 3: I'm working with Snowfall. Yeah. Did Walter Mosley right that
Speaker 3: he is writing on like a lot of It's incredible
Speaker 3: what season one is like? Cooldress is one of my
Speaker 3: favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the glow is like glow. I watched that.
Speaker 2: I watched him made sale. But I'm like lowed out already,
Speaker 2: Like I'm done.
Speaker 11: There's no way to boot like that, No way, Like
Speaker 11: you gotta have Hulu, right, excuse me, Bill, I'll call
Speaker 11: you thank you.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's saying he got it, he got
Speaker 2: the hook up. I thought we couldn't mention who'll give.
Speaker 3: You who passwork? They don't stream podcast.
Speaker 5: Words.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I pulled out on that. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm good on that ship. Well that's the only thing
Speaker 2: I pulled out on TV show. But nah, man, that joint,
Speaker 2: I guess my guilty pleasure, yo, real rap bro like
Speaker 2: ninety Day fianceance Man, it.
Speaker 3: Comes on like Brivo. It comes on one on channels.
Speaker 2: It is basically a show about holes overseas, finessing military
Speaker 2: niggas in the States. It's real fantastic horse. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I mean what you call it, what's the political?
Speaker 3: The political? No no, no, not that sex work. No no, no,
Speaker 3: they're not sex workers. But well some of them are.
Speaker 3: Some of them are.
Speaker 2: Some of them really are, like they just want to move.
Speaker 2: It's just like they hustling niggas for green cars. It is.
Speaker 3: That's a show that's allowed. Yeah, yeah, and I guess
Speaker 3: maybe that makes it. They're not coming from shipthole counts noted.
Speaker 8: A lot of a know the real truth, that's what's
Speaker 8: said is like I watch a lot of dramas, and
Speaker 8: I watched a hell of I probably watched too much news.
Speaker 3: M S n b C.
Speaker 7: If you can name the first five people on the
Speaker 7: line of M S n b C like I can,
Speaker 7: you probably.
Speaker 3: Got a problem. I do have a problem, and I
Speaker 3: could name them.
Speaker 7: So passionate. I love her.
Speaker 3: I kind of had a that you said, because she
Speaker 3: like she's like work.
Speaker 7: I love her.
Speaker 3: No, No, no, I like how like punchy she is.
Speaker 3: She just she's just like she'll put like one arm
Speaker 3: back and she'll be like, what do you think about
Speaker 3: up in the morning. I'm like, she's already on the show.
Speaker 3: She loves the show.
Speaker 9: She's such as rulers listening to this.
Speaker 3: She's like, my bff, I were really hot. I never
Speaker 3: brought up to you guys, because I didn't think no,
Speaker 3: you didn't think it was the same.
Speaker 11: I've seen her stand up how she had some hicks
Speaker 11: and some dope ass ways Like she's like.
Speaker 7: What do you mean you didn't know that he's from Canada?
Speaker 7: What did you think he was from?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great day. That was great. I
Speaker 3: remember that day. Jack. I've been trying to okay, okay,
Speaker 3: but this was incredible. Actually, this show is like a
Speaker 3: perfect the perfect vision camera.
Speaker 6: She was.
Speaker 3: That was my celebrity friend. She told me she is
Speaker 3: coming on. Uh is she cool? Secrets? Happy? Okay, secrets,
Speaker 3: something's about that happen Like, okay, four months, I'll support it.
Speaker 11: You can see her in the Andre Leon Tally documentary
Speaker 11: if you just happened to go by miss her.
Speaker 7: She's on that. She wanted to drop that because it's
Speaker 7: a really dope documentary.
Speaker 3: We have I ever told my Andre Leon Tally joke
Speaker 3: before so much.
Speaker 7: I've seen a documentary.
Speaker 3: No it's not about him, Okay, No. Once there's a
Speaker 3: go to Andre Leon Tallely with the with the that
Speaker 3: uh fur hat thing and his get up and it's
Speaker 3: like uh Russell's ex wife and I think spears and
Speaker 3: I thought it was jay Z was happy to hear it,
Speaker 3: and I hit him up, like, yo, that's that's a weird.
Speaker 3: Uh you hit up jay about this business? You know
Speaker 3: how many times he's been mad.
Speaker 2: But there is a picture of jay in like this
Speaker 2: weird fucking hat. Yeah, a real picture.
Speaker 3: If you look at it, you can google it and
Speaker 3: see like it looks more like jay Z than Andre
Speaker 3: And I was just like, I was like, interesting choice
Speaker 3: of code. Yeah there, sir, And.
Speaker 2: He was like that's not me and didn't talk to
Speaker 2: me for like three months. And yo, am I the
Speaker 2: only one that watches h G t V like around.
Speaker 3: I watched Property Brothers. Yeah yeah, that's my Property.
Speaker 7: Brothers, National House, Hunter's Honey International.
Speaker 3: House like International. I watched the Regular House.
Speaker 7: What's the one with the flip?
Speaker 9: Is it flip the house? None of that?
Speaker 3: You don't okay, I'm sorry. It does look like jay Z.
Speaker 3: See see it's not gonna enough. You're not gonna be Okay.
Speaker 2: He didn't talk to me for three months for that ship.
Speaker 2: That's all right, Bill? With what do you watch? What
Speaker 2: do I watch? Too much of?
Speaker 3: What's your show that you bringe out for yourself? I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go last Okay, I'm hey, you being watching? I
Speaker 3: plan on watching Better Calls Saw season four, like in
Speaker 3: a few weeks. Okay. How do you feel about Better
Speaker 3: Cross Saw? I love it. I love it now, I'm
Speaker 3: here and talk that it's better than Breaking Bad.
Speaker 5: I'm here and talk. I'm watching the different ship Durian
Speaker 5: musics on that.
Speaker 2: Not on Better Call, so I don't think, well, unless
Speaker 2: he hasn't showed up yet, I'm like behind.
Speaker 5: The episode or two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm buying a few, so I'm still in the middle. Three.
Speaker 3: So it's a different show.
Speaker 2: So I'm not really judging it by breaking bad standards
Speaker 2: because it's not about Walter White. It's not about you know,
Speaker 2: some dude becoming a meth dealer's.
Speaker 3: But it's about it. It's about you know, Jimmy turn
Speaker 3: it into Saw. Right, So it's a different journey. Now,
Speaker 3: what's your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 2: I spend way too much time watching the Fresh Prince
Speaker 2: bel Airs. You don't understand how much time I spend
Speaker 2: watching you feel guilty for the time.
Speaker 3: Okay, now a guilty pleasure show.
Speaker 11: I hear.
Speaker 2: I have not watched it, but I hear that it's
Speaker 2: like perfect guilty pleasure. Reverend runs new show.
Speaker 11: I tried to watch, that's I heard. But it's like scripted,
Speaker 11: y'all scripted.
Speaker 2: They tried to take his reality show and make it
Speaker 2: to a real show. Make it to a real show.
Speaker 2: So he's not playing, he's playing himself. But he has
Speaker 2: another name for.
Speaker 3: I'm about to say, shout out to you. Is it Red?
Speaker 7: No black ones?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: All writers in the show got really really I'm in
Speaker 3: the bubble got the.
Speaker 7: Job on the Reverend.
Speaker 3: Damn, I've not watched one frame.
Speaker 7: Can google who kids better to look at? Not for nothing?
Speaker 7: But you know I wanted to see diggy hmm, Sorry.
Speaker 3: There it is child molesters. You are you too?
Speaker 7: Nigga's think the man of Suspect?
Speaker 5: What do you?
Speaker 3: What do you been there? I like to ark watching
Speaker 3: the Orange season Orange controversial for some reason. This season
Speaker 3: right dark? Is that what happened? I think they need
Speaker 3: to kind of wrap it up. I think this next
Speaker 3: season needs to be Have you'all seen More? Have y'all
Speaker 3: seen Wentworth? Yes, yes, that's all I'm saying what I
Speaker 3: thought you might have said it Because it's Australia's.
Speaker 5: It is so damn the same year it came out
Speaker 5: the same year too, Australia's Orangers and New Blake is called.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay anybody with gomor no.
Speaker 7: Person?
Speaker 2: Amazon, isn't it? Yeah, it's on Uh, it's on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I think season one and two on Netflix. And it's
Speaker 2: basically The Wire, but like how the Wire would be.
Speaker 2: It takes place in Italy, yes, and it's basically the
Speaker 2: Sicilian Mom. Yes, Mom, watching tonight. That ship is fucking dope.
Speaker 2: So it's based on a book like that. If you like,
Speaker 2: it's better than you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You said is pretty good?
Speaker 3: Now better than is whooping.
Speaker 2: As it's based on a book, it's a real story
Speaker 2: about the Camorra crime family more like the guy that
Speaker 2: wrote it with the g Yeah, just like soone Moore
Speaker 2: and like the author that wrote it, like the nigga
Speaker 2: had to go like and hiding and ship like he's
Speaker 2: still more and someone's.
Speaker 3: Like, is this your porn?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: But it's not what you expect. It's a guilty pleasure
Speaker 3: more as hard as nails. I think, I know what
Speaker 3: you're guilty pleasure, but what is it? Me Riverdale right now? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's what Arizona archies. But if archies were
Speaker 3: uh c w so good, so gossip girl, if the
Speaker 3: Archies were gossip Girl, it's so that's it.
Speaker 4: It is good.
Speaker 3: I watched, I watched.
Speaker 9: I hate how good it is, Like this is some
Speaker 9: good ship, all right, my guilty pleasure.
Speaker 3: No, you're you're a regular joints.
Speaker 9: I've been watching a cartoon on Netflix called Big Mouth
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 3: I pulled out of that one too.
Speaker 9: I was just like, I can't know, but it's just
Speaker 9: stupid to me. It's like, I guess it's like y'all
Speaker 9: watching those soaper.
Speaker 3: To me, it was I was just worried it.
Speaker 2: To me, the slope was kind of slippy because it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: these are teenage genitalia talking and I know it's animated.
Speaker 3: No I'm dead.
Speaker 9: I was just I was like, this angel and I
Speaker 9: don't it was it was it was too close to
Speaker 9: tell you.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: The one episode Jesus Christ is Genitalia.
Speaker 2: It's like like the Girls about going through puberty, and
Speaker 2: so it's one episode where like the girls vaginas and
Speaker 2: I was just like, dude, I can't do this.
Speaker 10: I am happy that the girls Vagina's getting as much
Speaker 10: time as the boys masturbation episode.
Speaker 9: That I was very, very pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 3: I think they got a second season to read Guilty.
Speaker 10: Pleasure, though. I'm with Diallo because I've watched too much Discovery.
Speaker 10: I d Wives with Knives because I literally called Discovery.
Speaker 10: I d the White on White Crime Channel.
Speaker 3: And then just watch like three hours of it. You'll
Speaker 3: be hood, Yeah, yeah, is it better than.
Speaker 9: Smart People?
Speaker 3: My show show?
Speaker 2: I think it came on I d was Nicked and Afraid.
Speaker 2: If you'll watched niked in, that's your gram all that I.
Speaker 3: Didn't watch it because you know there's anyone here watching Disenchantment.
Speaker 11: I watched it in the bathroom. In the last three days,
Speaker 11: I've been watching in the bathroom because I can't. It's
Speaker 11: no windows in the hotel for me to do what
Speaker 11: I do, So I put it on my phone and
Speaker 11: watch Disenchantment the show the bathroom.
Speaker 3: It's Matt Groening's read what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: We have no bad.
Speaker 3: Series, okay with what's your name from? Abby? Oh? There
Speaker 3: you go, allright, Abby from Rock City. Okay, it's just
Speaker 3: like an animated magroning and what's your name from? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I never was that, like really it was good going
Speaker 7: and you can't in the Law and Order you watch.
Speaker 3: You got good? You got good taste. I'm co signing
Speaker 3: mad ship on this side.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Damn wait you had to answer the question.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, you guys are so uh well rounded
Speaker 3: with your choices, like I'm barely keeping up with all
Speaker 3: the own stuff, like I've just gotten the Queen Sugar said,
Speaker 3: watch watching Queen Sugar. I'm not doing that. Are you watching?
Speaker 6: Good?
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, man, fucking this angel needs to talk.
Speaker 3: Every actually told me that they spend twice the budget
Speaker 3: money and post uh turning up trying to adjust, he whispers. Anyway,
Speaker 3: uh yeah, so every green leaf that what else am
Speaker 3: I missing on?
Speaker 2: Own?
Speaker 3: That's a that's a drama. Isn't there a third? Love
Speaker 3: is love is too big on? I gave it an
Speaker 3: that's the time period, the serious drama thing that's on
Speaker 3: the level of Queen Sugar and Greenleaf Ship. Could I
Speaker 3: forget y'all fixed my life? Pretty nigga? Yeah, that's pretty great.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, because the greatest part about it is
Speaker 2: like after every show, it's like, since appearing on the
Speaker 2: Yalling Picks my life ship has gotten exponentially worse.
Speaker 3: That's like the end of every show. She never picked.
Speaker 5: It's almost like she she tells him more specific reasons
Speaker 5: to hate each other. You don't like him because he
Speaker 5: reminds you of your mama. Who laughing, You're like, can
Speaker 5: I pitch something? I've a sure of the pitch. No, No,
Speaker 5: here's here's I'll open up to the room.
Speaker 8: Is there a show because you mentioned to two seven again,
Speaker 8: is there a show that Netflix can pluck out of
Speaker 8: the past, out of the black past and do like
Speaker 8: the serious, the serious.
Speaker 3: Version version Archie to Riverdale to seven Family Matters Living
Speaker 3: in Chicago, Chicago with the nerd. Yeah, that was like
Speaker 3: the whitest, blackest show. This is all about what happened
Speaker 3: to Judy. Oh yeah, she w yeah she went upstairs
Speaker 3: and talking about her going into porn. I'm talking about
Speaker 3: why did you care? Went upstairs? And then they never
Speaker 3: did like all right, that's it. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 5: That was like ALF.
Speaker 8: Golf got canceled, but they ended on a cliffhanger. Technically,
Speaker 8: technically the end of Alpha is the scientists dragging.
Speaker 3: He's like, will.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm still man, y'all.
Speaker 9: Show didn't get on the air, and somebody pitched ALF
Speaker 9: and got rich.
Speaker 3: There's a they say that was about.
Speaker 8: They said ALF is hands down the angriest, nastiest, most
Speaker 8: toxic set in the history.
Speaker 2: Of the Dad was on crack. And then that wrote
Speaker 2: it was yeah, yeah, your dad, your dad on real crack.
Speaker 9: I heard Small Wonder was the worst.
Speaker 3: Can we small Wonder that I'm gonna make a little girl, Marrie?
Speaker 3: Just google ALF, Dad crack House. I don't want you.
Speaker 2: The writer from ALF also the boy from Basketball Diaries,
Speaker 2: that movie, the movie that I remember the movie but
Speaker 2: and he was about It was about a writer that
Speaker 2: his life was all fucked up. He was the guy
Speaker 2: that rolle ALF. He was a drug addict. Ship Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh that makes sense. No, my guilty. I will stick
Speaker 2: with what I really think yours is.
Speaker 3: I will say that if I'm in bed and I
Speaker 3: don't feel like reaching for the remote and there's a
Speaker 3: Kardashian Marathon, I won't rush to change the channel, like
Speaker 3: I'm just too lazy.
Speaker 8: When I was on Fallin because like it reminded me
Speaker 8: of living in l A. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: Like like you see the freeways, you see like you'll
Speaker 8: be like.
Speaker 3: Oh, just look at all that.
Speaker 8: Like it was it was like a little postcard from home.
Speaker 8: Regardless of who they were talking. You know they're talking.
Speaker 3: About it's only like three episodes and then I gotta stop,
Speaker 3: like I find myself getting sucked in.
Speaker 5: The show is not popular because it sucks. You know,
Speaker 5: it's a good show. The reason is super popular is
Speaker 5: because it's like, but I feel super guilty for watching it.
Speaker 3: We'll take one last break and then we'll finish our
Speaker 3: last object and then we got to wrap up the showize.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, it sounds like you donald this like example
Speaker 2: that this was written by Michael McDonald's Daryl Hall.
Speaker 3: There's there's no stuff, but it's sounds like Daryl Hall.
Speaker 7: Right, Michael McDonald, I believe every day I got stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, count the negatives. Here we go.
Speaker 9: You can't.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: That was like.
Speaker 3: Shout, that's a matter. That's the they were painting exactly.
Speaker 4: Michael das Davis version went there.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, shout out the.
Speaker 5: Original Kim Tenderness, Yes Kim is file Erbow nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 5: But yes, that's my one of my favorite records, one
Speaker 5: of the best records I've made.
Speaker 3: My final question is already is Hollywood running out of ideas?
Speaker 3: All these No, should we reboot many I'm just outside
Speaker 3: of the studio. I just seen a sign for magnum.
Speaker 9: P I see that's that's new ideas.
Speaker 10: But if they think they can make more money on
Speaker 10: a reboot, we are the We are sellers and networks
Speaker 10: are buyers, and we go in and we pitch a
Speaker 10: new idea.
Speaker 9: Say I want to pitch black Girl lives in a
Speaker 9: pinball machine.
Speaker 3: They'll say that's sold. Say no, they're going to go
Speaker 3: through the whatever.
Speaker 9: Maath they used to see which one's going to bring
Speaker 9: in more money.
Speaker 3: So it's not that we don't boots that already has
Speaker 3: a building that's already been successful. Yeah, has been on
Speaker 3: the air for like nine seasons.
Speaker 8: I haven't seen one episode, but like anytime, like I'm
Speaker 8: at home and I turned on CBS on a Friday night,
Speaker 8: you'll see Hawaii. That's a reboot and it's been on
Speaker 8: for nine yes seasons of those guys were on Lost.
Speaker 3: They just stayed on the island of Hawaii. Another show coming, y'all.
Speaker 3: I feel it's still a toxic night on television. I
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 8: Actually, no, I don't think so, because isn't Blue Blood's
Speaker 8: on Friday too. I feel like CBS has a bunch
Speaker 8: of dramas on Friday, and they've been all they're all.
Speaker 3: Successful, and Friday night like the lay up night, like
Speaker 3: that's the boot up night. Saturday Night is the I think.
Speaker 8: I think what it is is CBS knows their audience.
Speaker 8: They're all really old. They have not cut the day.
Speaker 8: They don't even know what cutting the cord is about.
Speaker 8: And so they're just like, ah, this shows about the cops,
Speaker 8: and then this other shows about more cops on Hawaii.
Speaker 7: So like they like cops, cops in hospitals.
Speaker 5: Everything is like a lazy trend too, Like they all
Speaker 5: was saying we were the HBO girl was successful, so
Speaker 5: they try to make everything like that. Roseanne has been
Speaker 5: a successful reboots and now you see all these reboots coming.
Speaker 5: But the other part of that equation, I think is Also,
Speaker 5: the TV viewers are just a lot older than people
Speaker 5: think they are.
Speaker 7: So are we ready for the Martin reboot?
Speaker 3: Is that going to happen?
Speaker 7: They were talking about it.
Speaker 9: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trust me, friends, some things just need to be
Speaker 2: left alone. Sometimes you just fun up when you just
Speaker 2: bring it back. Like Roseanne, she sucked that up that
Speaker 2: we was like, I'm saying it would have been I
Speaker 2: saw it wasn't want I didn't.
Speaker 3: Want to go against Cosby back when they were like
Speaker 3: going Addy.
Speaker 9: You know you never watched it?
Speaker 3: Catch it enjoyed today?
Speaker 5: Actually that's the show I love. I love I know
Speaker 5: this family. I always wanted to see a black person
Speaker 5: you watched.
Speaker 9: Did they explain how the white guys wouldn't kiss a
Speaker 9: black girl back in the day? Adopted a white girl
Speaker 9: a black girl?
Speaker 7: You try to say, DJ, what you mean you mean
Speaker 7: on the episode when they have that's the things that
Speaker 7: they haven't.
Speaker 3: That's what I think. That's why they why they had
Speaker 3: him adopted.
Speaker 7: Black and they hadn't gotten to that yet.
Speaker 11: There were so many original characters that I thought was
Speaker 11: dope that there were still a part of the show
Speaker 11: they brought back that they were still getting couple.
Speaker 3: Yet I felt like they were treating that black girl
Speaker 3: on the show is like a mask.
Speaker 7: Yes, And I was like, is she his because she's on.
Speaker 3: Different strokes Oliver on Bunch like just the mister d
Speaker 3: Did the Bundes have another child at the seven?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime a baby showed up on a sitcom, that's
Speaker 3: when you know that. On the Contine Winnie and Nelson,
Speaker 3: Winnie and Nelson raving Simon, I didn't.
Speaker 5: Know she was great, but she absolutely was an injection
Speaker 5: of all right, we need some new characters.
Speaker 3: Then that was a mistake. I mean that I don't
Speaker 3: understand that they brought the and like Howard, I was.
Speaker 2: Like because even like it was either if you knew
Speaker 2: what sick comes a by the end, when like a
Speaker 2: baby showed up or when Bumpy.
Speaker 3: Like when he showed up.
Speaker 2: It's like I was gonna say when Colonel Taylor married Lisa,
Speaker 2: but you know that was that happened?
Speaker 7: Oh my god, watch you remind me of Yeah, that
Speaker 7: was uncomfortable. Then she got pregnant and it was like, oh,
Speaker 7: we're all really doing this.
Speaker 5: Actors were uncomfortable. They were like reading that script like what.
Speaker 3: Yo, I hate you? Right, now pull up the rock
Speaker 3: that nigga that nigga plarent so fun Wait one one.
Speaker 2: Word, that one place where that rule does not work.
Speaker 2: On Living Single, he showed he was. He was in
Speaker 2: the early seasons as like one of agious assistants or
Speaker 2: something like, oh wow, okay, I didn't watch The Living
Speaker 2: Single like that, but I forgot an underrated show.
Speaker 3: The show was so rated. I didn't watch them singing
Speaker 3: like that. Now.
Speaker 2: My assumption was that show was so good and I like,
Speaker 2: but I didn't watch a lot of TV like in
Speaker 2: the nineties, like I was just always this music.
Speaker 5: I was saying the Living Single was was it was
Speaker 5: underrated because my assumptions the times were about to get
Speaker 5: a bunch of new shows like this, and I was wrong.
Speaker 5: There wasn't a bunch of because my friend, that show
Speaker 5: is so good. Yeah, but that shows I think that
Speaker 5: show is personally better than Friends.
Speaker 9: Shout out Betty Bowser.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, at least the beginning. I mean Friends, I
Speaker 5: will admit towards the middle of Handyman on that.
Speaker 9: Show, Overton over.
Speaker 3: Man, it was funny, a little too much like your mama.
Speaker 3: He used always do this prince joke, like maybe I'm
Speaker 3: just like my mama.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little too much like Big He was hilarious sequence,
Speaker 5: but Eric Alexander, I thought was big.
Speaker 9: Called her big Legs, and havn't called her big legs.
Speaker 3: Her name was big Legs, big less. Wait a minute, Okay,
Speaker 3: I mean learning, learning, all right, So I've learned, uh
Speaker 3: these past two hours that uh that what we learned.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what we learned. Yeah, we got to bring
Speaker 3: it back. Yeah. So I've learned that, uh that reboots
Speaker 3: are not a good idea, but you guys are pitching
Speaker 3: new ideas and executives are ignoring. Uh, and I'm also
Speaker 3: getting the feeling that we won't overcome What did you
Speaker 3: learn from?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 3: I learned it?
Speaker 2: Well, It's hard to say because I've known everyone pretty
Speaker 2: much for a while. But uh, but but no, I mean,
Speaker 2: I just I hope what I hope people see is
Speaker 2: just how long it takes to achieve your dream. I mean,
Speaker 2: just from knowing Aerngie from okay player and like knowing
Speaker 2: where she's come from, and then just watching these cats
Speaker 2: like go through yeah seven yeah, yeah, like they from
Speaker 2: they started with a web series and the message like
Speaker 2: an old seven before the yeah, even before fouling and
Speaker 2: like just seeing how long it takes to actually gain.
Speaker 3: Some ground in this ship man like forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a testament that's just hardworking, just perseverance.
Speaker 3: What did you learn?
Speaker 11: I learned there needs to be a slew of domestic
Speaker 11: writing workshops for women, especially the black ones, especially when
Speaker 11: it comes to comedy. I kind of already knew that,
Speaker 11: but I just wanted to reiterate that to the world
Speaker 11: because I got Angela in my life who tells me
Speaker 11: this all the.
Speaker 3: Time, but how are you on your journey?
Speaker 11: And well, I got these two gigs from Questlove Supreme,
Speaker 11: so I haven't been necessarily working on my dreams like
Speaker 11: I should have. But I think after we've done this
Speaker 11: marathon and recordings in La, it's time she did a stand.
Speaker 3: Up you did?
Speaker 2: She did like five minutes. Uh when we were there
Speaker 2: for Rooth's picnic. When did this comedy thing?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: She did like five minutes. I recorded it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we still got to talk about but I recorded it.
Speaker 2: And I'm not like a stand up for me, nothing
Speaker 2: like that. I just recorded it and I watched it.
Speaker 2: You just gotta write some jokes like her. She's no
Speaker 2: I'm dead as she's gotta write some jokes like her
Speaker 2: come from under that when she stepped on stage. The
Speaker 2: one thing I will say, and I mean we talked
Speaker 2: briefly her command of the stage is really fucking dope.
Speaker 2: When you stepped on stage, charismatic people were listening like
Speaker 2: you had them at every word.
Speaker 3: There was just no jokes, but like, but you had
Speaker 3: good premises, like you had a no no, I mean.
Speaker 4: You had that thing.
Speaker 2: You had a thing where you were like talking about
Speaker 2: living in l A as a black woman in l A.
Speaker 2: Which was like a funny premise, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11: But it just.
Speaker 3: You're on the right path. Talk about.
Speaker 4: That time.
Speaker 3: Now, we've been here for one hundred plus episodes, and
Speaker 3: the common theme that we've learned from every artist we
Speaker 3: have an interviewed on the show is that the wisdom
Speaker 3: and the knowledge come from the failure part.
Speaker 7: And now you're quiet listening, I'm listening, listening.
Speaker 3: Now you're quiet. I'm just saying that we've we've got
Speaker 3: every comedian has gone through this. Dude, I secretly go
Speaker 3: through this. Even the world that I occasionally get along.
Speaker 7: I understand. Angeler came to my first ever comedy show,
Speaker 7: and I was nervous for that. She was sitting in the.
Speaker 3: Your bravorit person that I am, because no one I
Speaker 3: know has ever seen me get on stage. I know
Speaker 3: you many times. You've been here for those smoke too
Speaker 3: much weed? Are we Are we doing that?
Speaker 5: Are we doing that?
Speaker 3: I would like something. My point is that, yes, in
Speaker 3: order for you to get better, you have to keep
Speaker 3: doing it. Yeah, you gotta start in the mail room.
Speaker 3: So I think you're on the right path.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: She started out like I mean, she had. Have you
Speaker 3: been on stage since the Roots picnic? Anyway? What else
Speaker 3: have you learned that?
Speaker 9: That's good?
Speaker 7: I'm done.
Speaker 3: You gotta do this weekly.
Speaker 7: I don't have no more.
Speaker 3: Is the comedy act theater? Theater is still a thing
Speaker 3: in l A. Or is that like a thing of
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 9: There's many open we can get Baker maker, I would
Speaker 9: love to make here.
Speaker 7: Now, Okay, let's do it, maker natural, I'll go with you.
Speaker 5: All.
Speaker 3: This will help you. This will help in a lot
Speaker 3: of areas.
Speaker 7: You're gonna start the sweating, Lord child, Okay, sweating.
Speaker 6: But the fact that they're listening to that, he's saying
Speaker 6: that they were listening. Yeah, that's really your your half.
Speaker 6: That's half always half the battle, right, So huge, huge.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of comedians who are funny, but
Speaker 6: they can't hold that audience.
Speaker 7: Okay, so that's something that they listen to.
Speaker 9: You did you learn I did.
Speaker 7: I learned that when I work a long day, maybe
Speaker 7: I should come do a pack.
Speaker 9: I got.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, actually I did learn that from you guys.
Speaker 6: I didn't realize that writers go through the same kind
Speaker 6: of long hustle comedians go through. I did not realize
Speaker 6: how long the fight was, and I think that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Did not realize the grind is the thing, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: can I just I learned I'm gonna be real tired tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you go.
Speaker 5: Are we going in the Okay?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: What I learned?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Man, I learned that. I learned Donald Lover was brought
Speaker 3: on to write for Tracy Morgan. I would tell that
Speaker 3: YE call him.
Speaker 9: Yes, I knew, I say, I've heard I've never heard.
Speaker 2: That, and I know people if he was in the room, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got a great two for line. I got a
Speaker 2: great Uh, I got a great line for Juree. No, no,
Speaker 2: I learned this Jordan and Bill Cosby bought NBC right exactly.
Speaker 2: I learned this fact tried to buy him.
Speaker 3: It was one of my favorite songs. And when I
Speaker 3: asked about it because I got to know Jeff, Tina's
Speaker 3: husband who does the music for the show, he explained
Speaker 3: to me that, yes, Donald wrote this and then also
Speaker 3: explain that, you know, he.
Speaker 9: Was I'm agreeing with the way the the way y'all
Speaker 9: saw unless you are in the writer's room.
Speaker 10: I'm just I've heard people say you write all of
Speaker 10: Tarik's rhymes and and it's like they say that, and
Speaker 10: I'm like, you're an electrician, how the hell you know?
Speaker 3: I got another question now, I was about to let
Speaker 3: the show go. How uh how small is the world
Speaker 3: as far as like writers rooms are concerned, Like, oh
Speaker 3: I heard stuff about uh that particular show, and like,
Speaker 3: like I said, writers rooms versus writers rooms, Like how
Speaker 3: fast does news travel about certain shows?
Speaker 8: You can travel real fast. If they're friends who work
Speaker 8: on shows, You'll be like, oh, man, that how motherfucker
Speaker 8: came in there and he he.
Speaker 3: Told so, and so you you fired? You know, like
Speaker 3: all that tuf you know, Okay, without naming is there
Speaker 3: a show? Just is there?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 3: Was Neil Simon is the show shows My gossip is old?
Speaker 3: Is there a list of shows that's like, uh, the
Speaker 3: top three shows I know never to ever approach or
Speaker 3: to go to, Like you've heard that, I'm show Game
Speaker 3: of Throw work for, Yes, there's a Game of Throw.
Speaker 8: This is literally two guys and their staff writers. So
Speaker 8: that's like one of the smallest.
Speaker 9: Rooms the mist producers you know, or showrunners that people
Speaker 9: say not to work for. But I will also say
Speaker 9: that when Methan Red got canceled, it was the shot
Speaker 9: black writers heard around.
Speaker 3: The world.
Speaker 9: Existed because again, at this point, I'm the only black
Speaker 9: writer in.
Speaker 3: The room you wrote on that show. You No, it
Speaker 3: was literally.
Speaker 10: Traveled around because from what I hear and again this
Speaker 10: is passed it down the line, but there was there
Speaker 10: was a room full of white writers and Methan Red
Speaker 10: didn't like what was being written and someone they were like, yeah,
Speaker 10: he shoved him in the face, and they were like
Speaker 10: and Methan Red called it a mush and the mushed
Speaker 10: him in the.
Speaker 3: Face like they were teaching them about yeah, and so
Speaker 3: it was like and.
Speaker 10: They were like, you just don't come to Hollywood and
Speaker 10: we give you a show and you mush people. And
Speaker 10: so for the next seven weeks, I could you know
Speaker 10: I heard was rappers come in to Hollywood, mushed people,
Speaker 10: they don't a ship.
Speaker 9: And then I'm the one black person room. I'm like,
Speaker 9: I didn't mush anybody, while y'all looking at me. I've
Speaker 9: never even heard that word.
Speaker 3: So I also learned not to believe everything I hear
Speaker 3: when it comes from Jeff Richmond. You would you learn?
Speaker 8: I learned two things. I learned that Stephanie Ruhl listens
Speaker 8: to QLs. That's that's pretty fun. I also learned that
Speaker 8: Hal Lindon is still alive and man Ron Glasses and so,
Speaker 8: you know, shout out to Hal wherever you are and.
Speaker 3: Has been gone. No, he just recently died.
Speaker 8: Oh really, And shout out to the guys who make
Speaker 8: it through their nineties. I love that documentary. The fact
Speaker 8: that No Brooks and Carl Reiner is still buddies and
Speaker 8: they still hang out in the afternoon, that's amazing to me.
Speaker 3: Soash Bill, where'd you learn?
Speaker 2: I learned that if I ever want to get a
Speaker 2: show in the air, don't take it to HBO unless
Speaker 2: I have like a decade away.
Speaker 3: You would think that with Netflix and the way that
Speaker 3: streaming cer I think that's changing. By the way, I
Speaker 3: think things are changing. I think our experience devastating.
Speaker 2: We were still a little bit unique and what you
Speaker 2: know are for the course, well you know, well, you
Speaker 2: know what, man like, I had a homie that was
Speaker 2: working on they were doing a they were doing a
Speaker 2: Lewis and Clark.
Speaker 8: It was supposed to be it was it was like
Speaker 8: three four years they developed. That's that's the one that
Speaker 8: took eight years. Yeah, and they and Clark took eight
Speaker 8: years to develop. And I had a homie that was
Speaker 8: working he was in that show and they were just like, nah,
Speaker 8: fuck it. Look, I think that's changed a lot because
Speaker 8: you know, for the first time, Netflix got more nominations
Speaker 8: in HBO. I think Netflix, I think things are I
Speaker 8: think I think the industry is changing. I got a
Speaker 8: bunch of parties aways. You know, I'm actually to go
Speaker 8: back to your point earlier. I'm becoming more of a
Speaker 8: student of how people consume. So I'm finding out that
Speaker 8: like vo D doesn't really count towards your ratings, but
Speaker 8: people watching on the app does, Like, so maybe stay
Speaker 8: on the people on the tech side to make sure
Speaker 8: that the app doesn't crash when too many people are
Speaker 8: trying to watch the show through the app. Like, there
Speaker 8: are a lot of ways the technology and the and
Speaker 8: the UH and and the content creation are colliding. I
Speaker 8: think it's smart for all creators to educate yourself. Man, well,
Speaker 8: I guess O D doesn't count towards ratings. It's complicated
Speaker 8: like the apps and UH. I saw a chart and
Speaker 8: we actually have a meeting next week at i f
Speaker 8: C on this. But like there is a chart that
Speaker 8: shows you, like which things count actually towards your ratings
Speaker 8: and which things are lovely?
Speaker 3: But they do not? Oh, man, I guess where we
Speaker 3: should go?
Speaker 2: We should ask you all, like for young writers trying
Speaker 2: to come up, like what would you say to him?
Speaker 3: We should said that. But hang on, so sugar, Steve,
Speaker 3: can you tell us what you learned that Steve is
Speaker 3: not on the MIC.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 3: At IT I learned Steve Mandela, I don't like to
Speaker 3: be the only white guy in the room. You can
Speaker 3: only takes so much that Steve gave you your platform.
Speaker 3: You're not here.
Speaker 4: What did you learn?
Speaker 10: I actually just learned through texted my services will not
Speaker 10: be needed on the last OG do to something.
Speaker 9: Somebody in the sad room snitching about some kid.
Speaker 3: I'd be hilarious for real.
Speaker 9: The thing that I learned is that Fante has really
Speaker 9: shitty taste in TV.
Speaker 3: I watched my say by myself, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Fuck y'all. What's your question?
Speaker 2: Oh no, just for like young writers trying to get
Speaker 2: into the game, Like what would y'all tell them? I
Speaker 2: mean other than like start twenty five years ago, but
Speaker 2: to Harvard and go to Harvard.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I don't know answer real quick. I think that I
Speaker 8: always tell people. I'm like, you know, write every day,
Speaker 8: get good at writing. If you're if you claim to
Speaker 8: be a writer, then you should love doing it. You
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. Nobody puts a gun to your
Speaker 8: head and says, hey, make music. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 8: just do it. You just do it because that's what
Speaker 8: you want to do. You'll get good at it, you know,
Speaker 8: over time and and and always, you know, stick with yourself.
Speaker 8: And that doesn't necessarily mean you got to write a
Speaker 8: show about a person who grew up in your hometown
Speaker 8: who came to Hollywood to try to be a writer.
Speaker 8: Because I always say, George Lucas didn't grow up flying spaceships.
Speaker 8: Like whatever is in you know, your interests, like write it,
Speaker 8: write it all the time. Don't ask everybody that you
Speaker 8: know to you know, read you constantly. Like once you
Speaker 8: write it and it's really really good, be happy that
Speaker 8: anybody reads anything that you give them. And please give
Speaker 8: them at least a couple of weeks even months to
Speaker 8: read it, because I think everybody in this room has
Speaker 8: had that person who's like.
Speaker 3: Hey, man, you you read it. Yeah, I sent it
Speaker 3: to you at five pm. You know, like that's the thing.
Speaker 3: To read a script so hard.
Speaker 2: It took me even like I was just like, man, like,
Speaker 2: it took me a while to learn like how to
Speaker 2: read scripts.
Speaker 8: And even the best writer may have terrible advice for
Speaker 8: how to fix your script. So at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, you have to believe in it. You have
Speaker 8: to know how to fix it.
Speaker 5: I tell people, you know, when young writers ask me
Speaker 5: all the time, I say, you know, you gotta be
Speaker 5: really hard in your work, like extremely hard in your work.
Speaker 5: Make sure the people who read it are not gonna
Speaker 5: be nice about it, but people who have good taste.
Speaker 5: But then also really make something because nobody wants to
Speaker 5: read the script like I'd rather you send me a
Speaker 5: link to some ship I can watch and let me
Speaker 5: see how good you are, because I'm not about to
Speaker 5: read ten pages.
Speaker 3: Make something, make something.
Speaker 9: I would say, don't don't steal ideas, don't steal like.
Speaker 6: Know, some young writers will go, oh, I like that,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna write that, but that's already on.
Speaker 7: You know, what are you like what you're saying?
Speaker 6: What are you passionate about?
Speaker 3: Hmm?
Speaker 7: And Shonda Rhimes did say that, and she said, don't steal.
Speaker 3: Don't steal. It's crazy, all right?
Speaker 7: Well say something or tripping?
Speaker 3: Did you say something and you ain't had no advice?
Speaker 10: My advice actually would be if you want to be
Speaker 10: in a writer's room is to not only get good
Speaker 10: at writing, but you should maybe take an improv class
Speaker 10: if you're not good at being around people, because you can't.
Speaker 8: And by the way, that's not always my biggest advice,
Speaker 8: especially in comedy. My biggest advice for people who want
Speaker 8: to come up no matter what they want to do, direct, act,
Speaker 8: write anything. If you haven't done that much and you're
Speaker 8: still figuring out what you want to do, take an
Speaker 8: improv class because you'll be around other people who have
Speaker 8: similar interests and then at some point you'll figure out, well,
Speaker 8: that person has an eye for something, this person is
Speaker 8: a better writer than an actor, and this person is
Speaker 8: a star in the making. You'll you'll create a network
Speaker 8: of people. Me and Bashir's first foray into this thing
Speaker 8: was just doing a sketch show with our friends, you know,
Speaker 8: for for no money at a theater and wow, we
Speaker 8: looked up one day and by the way, that was
Speaker 8: a hell of a sketch group. Our very first foray
Speaker 8: into anything was the form of a six person sketch group.
Speaker 8: I look back on who is in that sketch gyp
Speaker 8: is me and Basheer, Why it's an Robin the d
Speaker 8: and and Andrela Yarborough and nobody had done anything. We
Speaker 8: thought why it was the start because he had written.
Speaker 8: He had written on a season of King of the Hill.
Speaker 8: He was the start of the because of that.
Speaker 3: So there you go, Oh yeah.
Speaker 10: I think writers, especially people want to get into TV
Speaker 10: film get so caught up in the how the right
Speaker 10: and I have to put interior exterior ninety well sixty
Speaker 10: percent of this business is managing people and getting along
Speaker 10: with other people in personalities, and you can't read that
Speaker 10: in any book.
Speaker 9: So I would say, work on your people skills.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we learned a lot. That's good. Okay, so
Speaker 3: I think we wrapped up our special Hollywood Shuffle episode.
Speaker 3: You'll fix my freestyle. Yeah right, you'll fix my freestyle
Speaker 3: on the edit never Yeah, it's not one take hold.
Speaker 3: We all got it. So that take sad? What that
Speaker 3: movie still is? By the way, Yeah, ladies and gentlemen
Speaker 3: pressed out to my nine nurs Oh look look you
Speaker 3: just step in the room. Boy bye by, did you
Speaker 3: learn anything? All hilarious? Well on behalf of Oh wait,
Speaker 3: time out. I forgot y'all think I'm I'm bugging. I
Speaker 3: can't let this moment go by without a moment of
Speaker 3: oh god, yeah make up. Yes, I'm sorry, Bill, I
Speaker 3: gotta do this. Is this.
Speaker 7: Let's go twenty one jump street, let's go come on now?
Speaker 3: Uh one more time? One hundred ways?
Speaker 4: All right, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know that's next? No? Is that moonlight? So that
Speaker 3: did sound a little moon lighting? Miami vice.
Speaker 5: I got that one and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, second, second, second, last one?
Speaker 5: All right, all right, we be happy that was That
Speaker 5: was no way to spend three minutes.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Sorry, well, you.
Speaker 5: Know, I'm just want to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, that was the spokesperson for Cracker.
Speaker 4: Go By. I see.
Speaker 3: My show on.
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