1 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous, young, pregnant mother 2 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: of one found dead, shot execution style in the head, 3 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: eight months pregnant, after cowering and hiding in the bedroom 4 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: closet of her home in the last hours. A major 5 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: break in the case of Belinda Temple found dead. I'm 6 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 7 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: with us. I remember it like it was yesterday when 8 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Belinda was found dead in her home, eight months pregnant, 9 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: and the reality was it was a picture perfect home, 10 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: a mother of one little boy, vivacious, outgoing, beautiful home, 11 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: eight months pregnant with her second child, the family, beloved 12 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: by the whole community, the dad, the popular high school 13 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: football coach. And then she's found dead Harris County and 14 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: I ambulance. Someone's broken into my heart and my wife 15 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: stawn my life. For the ambulance, Sir, we have a 16 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: shooting victim. Go ahead, sir, where I just wrapped in 17 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: my wife. I believe she's been shot. It's got blood everywhere, okay, sir. 18 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: If she breathing, her brain is on the floor. I 19 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: think she's already did. She's eight months breathing, Okay, Sweeting 20 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: just down the phone. Okay, sir, Is there anyway that 21 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: you can kneel down next to her and see if 22 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: she is breathing? Sir? Sir? Okay, let me get them 23 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: over there. Okay, haven't check her out. Women's the last 24 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: time you saw her or several hours? Yes, you say, 25 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: half of her brain is on the floor. She's got 26 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: blood over the port of second because she's done in 27 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: the corner. Okay, she's eight. Have you felt for her 28 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: to have a pull? She's done that. We got a 29 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: baby though, right right? Okay, Okay, how to do CPR? Yes, okay, 30 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: I want you to do CPR for that baby. Okay, okay, yes, 31 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: let's do Are you doing CPR for me? She's gone? Okay, 32 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: well let's see if we can eat her? Okay for 33 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: the baby. Is there any way that you can do this? 34 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: It's just no way. She's got her her brain and 35 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: just bloody, just covered on the floor. I got a 36 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: policeman that's pulled up. Now, I got an ambulance that 37 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: a paramedic that's get ready to come into Okay. You 38 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: are hearing the actual nine one one call when popular 39 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: football coach David Temple says he finds his wife dead 40 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: on the floor. Well, in the last hours, so many hopes, 41 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: so many dreams of justice have been fulfilled. David Temple, 42 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: the high school football coach, star of the entire region 43 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: they're in, Texas, has been found guilty and his wife's murder. 44 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: This is a saga that started back in the nineties 45 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: when Temple was first suspected of shooting his pregnant wife. 46 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Joining me right now, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter 47 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Dave mac dave, Let's just start at the beginning. Where 48 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: does the husband, the football coach, David Temple, say he 49 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: was when his pregnant wife, Belinda was murdered out running 50 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: errands with their three and a half year old son, Evan, 51 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: a childho Bible Bay was so sick at school earlier 52 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: that day he was sent home from daycare earlier, but 53 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: was out with his dad seen on camera during the 54 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: time that this murder took place. Where did they say 55 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: they went? They went to a place to get a drink. 56 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: They went to a home depot. Wait wait, wait, wait, 57 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: what do you mean a place to get a drink? 58 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: A bar? No? No, yesota, you know, just an icy 59 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: or something. First of all, David Temple, the football coach, husband, 60 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: tells deputies that he and his three year old son 61 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: went to a park. This is after he's been brought 62 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: home sick from school, a grocery store, and a home 63 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: depot before arriving back to his Katie area home to 64 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: find his wife shot dead in an apparent burglary. That 65 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: is what he first said, but now I'm understanding that 66 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: his alibi has differed in various police interviews. What do 67 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: we know about that, Dave Max, We know that the 68 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: timeline tends to shift around based on what David Temple 69 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: describes that took place. He again, you've got his wife, 70 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Belinda is eight months pregnant. Well, his son, Evan, three 71 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: and a half years old, comes home from daycare six. 72 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: David Temple was a coach and high school teacher. His 73 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: wife was a special needs teacher at a junior high school. 74 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: And so the reason that's important, Evan, the child comes 75 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: home from daycare early. David the coach teacher has to 76 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: come home from school to take care of sick Evan. Meanwhile, 77 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: eight months pregnant Belinda the wife, she too comes home 78 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: from school and she's not feeling well. So at four 79 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: o'clock that afternoon, she retires to bed to lay down 80 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: eight months pregnant. Hold on, let me get that four 81 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon she lays down right now, how 82 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: do we know that we know that based on the 83 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: time that she left from school and her normal routine 84 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: in getting home, that it would be around four o'clock. 85 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: And then we actually have to believe David Temple and 86 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: some of this as well, but in particular, we can 87 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: track just her regular movements and the time that she 88 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: left school and the time that she wouldn't have gotten home. 89 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: That fits that she would actually be home by four 90 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: o'clock and in bed. Listen to this. Belinda's parents, Tom 91 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: and Carol Lucas suspected David after they learned he had 92 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: betrayed their daughter. Lucases did all they could to keep 93 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: the case alive. They paid for a billboard next to 94 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: a busy highway, and they took television crews to their 95 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: daughter's gray but nothing changed until November two thousand and four, 96 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: more than five years after the murder, when a case 97 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: in California taught the nation's attention. He is charged with 98 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: killing his wife, Lacy Guider Scott Peterson was convicted of 99 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: killing his pregnant wife. Lacy. Lucas saw parallels to their 100 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: case and contacted the prosecutors once again. This time, the 101 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: case landed on the desk of one of the toughest 102 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: days in the nation. I got it under control. I 103 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. I believe that David Temple is guilty. 104 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: With a record of high profile, two, high energy three 105 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: and highly dramatic prosecutions like you're you're hearing our friends 106 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: at CBS forty eight hours, I remembered distinctly when Belinda's 107 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: dad just heartbroken. Can you even imagine Tom Lucas was 108 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: begging for my help after David Temple was first released. 109 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. Listen, my daughter, Belinda Lucas Temple, 110 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: who was eight months pregnant, was murdered by her husband, 111 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: David Temple, in the Houston area of Texas, and nine 112 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: years went by before we finally got him put in prison. 113 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Now then he's served some time, and he's been let 114 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: out of the bond to possibly get a new trial 115 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: or posibly just turn loose. This is wrong. There's somebody 116 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: apparently had been bought off or something. I hope that 117 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Nancy and y'all can look into it and maybe do 118 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: something to help. I need lots of help for you know, 119 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: if possible. She's a wife, she's deceased now, so the 120 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: stress from that all of this was caused her. I 121 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: have a heart attack and by we were a guest 122 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: on Nancy's very first show. We talked about this murder 123 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: and his family was also on the part of the show. 124 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: I hope that y'all can help me, help me. It's 125 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: so terrible to a daughter who was she was eight 126 00:08:53,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: months pregnant. She was executed, shot the back of ahead 127 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: with a shotgun. Loaner brains all over the closet. Now 128 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: then that he is, he's been let out of prison 129 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: for possible new trial, and what is being done is injustice. 130 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: They they let him out on like say, they let 131 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: him out on bond. He's waiting for a new trial. 132 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: They're trying to decide where they'll have a new trial 133 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: or just turn him loose. This is not right. I 134 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: would like to have this story if you could update 135 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: it and put it on you know, it would be appreciated. 136 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: It has been very difficult time they were the last 137 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: eighteen years to Jason Oceans veteran defense attorney. We know 138 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: that the husband, David Temple, was tried, his first conviction 139 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: was overturned and he was granted a retrial. Why I 140 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: got a retrial and Nancy because of prosecutorial on misconduct 141 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: there were you know, that's a tough charge for a 142 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: judge to overturn defense motion on that and subsequent to conviction, 143 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: and the prosecutor themselves, the district attorney's offices being investigated 144 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: for improprieties in the original trial and the judge judge 145 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: granted a second trial. This is what I don't understand 146 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: to Dave mac when he says prosecutorial misconduct, What exactly 147 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: are we talking about thirty six instances of prosecutorial misconduct, 148 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: which actually it means they didn't turn over evidence of 149 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: what's called exculpatory evidence to the defense, either in a 150 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: timely manner or at all. Crime stories with Nancy Grace 151 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: in the last hours, David Temple, the high school football 152 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: coach star, has been found guilty and his wife's murder. 153 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: This is a saga that started back in the nineties 154 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: when Temple was first suspected I was shooting his pregnant wife. 155 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: She got home of our four o'car. We just said 156 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: I would take Heaven out and run around. We stopped 157 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: a grocer, but it's just to get a drink. We 158 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: stopped got two drinks and I picked up a bag 159 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: of calfood while we were in there getting the drinks. 160 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: And then we decided to go to home depot. We'd 161 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: got time to do that, make it home in time 162 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: to take one to eat dinner. And pulled into the garage. 163 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: You got my son out, started to walk towards the 164 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: back door, and I can see that the backdoors opened 165 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: and it's cracked with glass, and took my son across 166 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: the street and dangling my friend's house and handed I'm 167 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: having and asked they were calling on one one one. 168 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: Somebody had spoken into my neighbor's house and then ran 169 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: back across the street and then through the day and 170 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: into my house for me, and then naked an upstairs 171 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: to her one hunding important blood and their close their 172 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: knees up underneath their stomach and to protect her hanging 173 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: over across the bed, and you got the phone to 174 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: call them on one one. You're hearing our friends at 175 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: CBS forty eight hours and David Temple himself describing finding 176 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: his wife's body. Listened to this development. On November twenty ninth, 177 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, nearly six years after his wife 178 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: was killed, David Temple was arrested and tried myself for 179 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: school think I did every day, and an officer pulled 180 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: me over, handcuffed me and put me immediately in the 181 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: back of a detective's car. And one of the detectives 182 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: in that car was Dean Holtkey. You know what this 183 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: is about, right, And he says, no, what I said, Blenda. 184 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: He's like, you gotta be kid me. Man. That was 185 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: like six years ago. I never thought that I would 186 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: be arrested. Ever, Temple says he's a devoted family man 187 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: despite marrying his mistress after his wife was murdered. I 188 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: have to ask it, did you kill her? Merry Christmas? 189 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: You cannot be a good father to one shop and 190 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: take a life of another one. To me, that is impossible. 191 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: Now take a listen to our friends at CBS forty 192 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: eight hours as they describe why David Temple is released 193 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. Temple's a Pellet attorney's Casey Gotro and 194 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Stanley Schneider finally saw the complete police report, and they 195 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: say it contained critical evidence never seen before by the defense. 196 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: On my left is the complete investigative report was never seen. 197 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: This is what was suppressed self was hidden. In a 198 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: split decision, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals found Temple 199 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: did not get a fair trial and he was released 200 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: in late December. Take listen to our friends at forty 201 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: eight hours and the former Harris County prosecutor, so, what 202 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: did you have against him? A story that he told 203 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: that never made any sense? What didn't make any sense 204 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: of though? The story was according to David Temple, at 205 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: the very time he was out with his sixth son 206 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: running errands that didn't need to be run, a random 207 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: burglar just happened to break into his house and shoots 208 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: Belinda Temple in the back of the head, which is 209 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: eight months pregnant, while David Temple is having an affair 210 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: with the woman he was madly in love with. She believes. 211 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: Belinda Temple was killed around four pm, about a half 212 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: hour before David was seen by those surveillance cameras at 213 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: the stores. Once Belinda was dead, Temple went right to 214 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: work and cockeding his alibi. David Temple made a slip 215 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: through the house and made an attempt to make the 216 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: house look like it had been viglarized. He broke the 217 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: glass in the back door, and then he took Evan 218 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: to try and get himself on videotape to alibi himself 219 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: as quickly as he could. Wow. Wow, you're hearing the 220 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: then Harris County prosecutor. Take a listen as I confront 221 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: the then defense attorney, Dick de Garon. Dick Degeron, buckle up. 222 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Was their insurance money? Yeah, there was insurance, you know, 223 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: all went almost all went to Evan, the the young boy, really, 224 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: because I heard only sixty thousand of the two hundred 225 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: thousand went to a trust and that was after twisting 226 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: somebody's arm. No, that's not right. The Temple family and 227 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: David sought to have it put into trust and part 228 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: of it went to the original attorney in the case. 229 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: But that's because from the very beginning the police were 230 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: falsely accusing David. Well, he just got arrested a couple 231 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: of months ago, So why did he need a defense 232 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: lawyer there at the house the night before the funeral? 233 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: He lawyered up pretty fast. Dick, Well, sure, it did 234 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: because they were accusing him from the beginning, and they 235 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: were accusing him only because they say that when a 236 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: wife has murdered, the husband is always a suspect. They 237 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: didn't have any evidence then, But about the gunshot powder, 238 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: they don't have any evidence. Now. I don't believe that stuff, 239 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Nancy in the first place. They won't give it to us. 240 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: It won't. I got the rest affidavit right here. Yeah, 241 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: you've got the affidavit, but you don't have the test. 242 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: We've been asking for the test. We filed a motion 243 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: asking that they give us the test. Let us independently 244 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: test it. It came from their test, came from a 245 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: questionable source. Are you going to say cross contamination because 246 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: they haven't heard that since Cochrane said it in the 247 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: oj Simpson trial. Take a listen to what Blenda's parents 248 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: tell me on hel N When was the first time 249 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: you saw David Temple after you learn Belinda had been murdered. 250 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: I saw David Temple let the funeral home the night 251 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: before the funeral. Now that strikes me as very unusual 252 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: that you that he didn't come to you, or didn't 253 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: did he call you? Maybe? No? Nothing? How did he 254 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: act at the funeral, Missus Lucas just like any other 255 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: day of the week, I'd say, didn't seem to be 256 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: sad or anything. What was he like? No tears were shed, 257 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: Not a tear. I never saw a tears shed. David 258 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: Temple has never looked us in the eye since our 259 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: daughter was married, her murdered. Excuse me, never has looked 260 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: you in the eye. Do you think Belinda knew he 261 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: was having an affair during the marriage. I think she 262 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: had become aware of it. Do you think that is 263 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: what led to her death? I feel that that could 264 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: have been part of the reason. When you look at 265 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: all the facts, do you think David Temple murdered your 266 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: After looking into all the facts and reading what I've read, 267 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: I believe David temble Kilden. I remember, after all this 268 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: time has passed following Belinda's execution style murder an eight 269 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: month pregnant woman, I was giving a speech, I believe 270 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: it was in Port Huron, and I kept thinking that 271 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: a woman there looked familiar to me, and I didn't 272 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: know why. She came up to me after my speech. 273 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: It was Belinda's sister, and she broke down in tears. 274 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: This was about over a year ago, and I asked 275 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: her did she want to come on and talk about 276 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: what was happening and focus attention back on her sister's death, 277 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: and she said, I just don't want to hurt the trial, 278 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: so we agreed to stay silent. Now in the last hours, 279 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: a stunning break in the case Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 280 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for 281 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: being with us. What about the theory this was a 282 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: botched robbery, Dave Matt What if anything was taken? There 283 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: was absolutely nothing taken in it looked like a stage 284 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: crime scene. Nancy, why do you say that? Okay, there 285 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: was a First of all, the glass door, the door 286 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: from the garage into the end of the entryway. The 287 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: glass was broken out, but the glass wasn't broken like 288 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: straight in. But when they actually were doing a re enactment, 289 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: they had to open the door and then break the 290 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: glass for the glass to actually show up on the 291 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: floor where they found it. On top of that, a 292 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: TV was pulled off of a TV stand, but it 293 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: wasn't even unplugged, So if you're going to steal a TV, 294 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: you'd actually unhook the cable and unplug it from the wall. 295 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: There was jewelry, you know, he was a high school 296 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: football hero, and there's this big, gaudy gold ring and 297 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: a watch that was sitting right there in the open 298 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: and wasn't disturbed at all. So if it was a robbery, 299 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: those have been the first things, you know, they would 300 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: have stashed the gold open in somebody's pockets. The TV 301 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: would have not just been unplug but it would have 302 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: had the katilee the cutter undone, and the glass wouldn't 303 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: have shown up, you know, twenty feet around in the 304 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: living room. It would have been in the door in 305 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: the entryway. And nothing was taken. Nothing was taken. We 306 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: also know that Temple's defense team has long claimed one 307 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: of Belinda's teenage student, Riley Joe Sanders, was responsible. Dave 308 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: Matt what about that? You know, there is some suspicion 309 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: about Riley Joe Sanders. He was a sixteen year old 310 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: student who had lived near the temples of Blinda. Actually 311 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: had told his parents that he was missing a lot 312 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: of school he didn't particularly care for, and he lied 313 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 1: to police about his whereabouts on the day of the murder. Well, 314 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: what did he tell police? He told police that he 315 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: was at school all day and turned out that he 316 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: actually wasn't at school, He was actually at home smoking pot. 317 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: How could they confirm that that's what he actually told them? 318 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: So can they confirm it or no? While they can 319 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: only confirm the fact that the guy told them he 320 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: was at home smoking pot, but they actually hooked him 321 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: up to a polygraph and he failed three different polygraph tests, 322 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: I could understand why he lied about not being in school. Yeah, 323 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean to me, that makes sense. But what would 324 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: he didn't steal anything, what would a potential motive have been? 325 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: Dave mack Well, that was the whole point that he 326 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: was mad at Belinda because she told his parents that 327 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: he was missing a lot of school. That's the whole 328 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: grudge that they say led to him staging a robbery 329 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: and murdering her with a shotgun. Wow, Okay, that doesn't 330 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: make sense to me. Let me ask you another question 331 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: with that evidence, Dave Mike, regarding the student Riley Joe Sanders, 332 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: why did they elect to go fill it onto because 333 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: they actually didn't believe that Riley Joe Sanders was a viable, 334 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: you know, suspect. They just didn't believe that he did it. 335 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: The prosecutor hear Jess did not believe. She actually said 336 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: they believed his story of sitting home smoking pot. I 337 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't believe it was a murderer. They didn't believe he 338 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: was out to get Belinda at all. They just did 339 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: not believe that he was the suspect. Wow, okay, what 340 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: about the bullets to Karen Smith, forensic expert, Beerbow's consulting 341 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: found er, what do we know about ballistics at this point? 342 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: It's a shotgun, Nancy, So they're talking about pellets and wadding. 343 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: There was no shotgun shell found. It was scene, which 344 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: means the gun was either unracked or somebody collected it 345 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: and left with it. So they're left with very scant evidence. 346 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: But it was double buckshot, which is so common. It's 347 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: just a small pellets inside of a shotgun shell that 348 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: dispersed once the gun is fired. That's what was used. 349 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm really curious about the gunshot residue 350 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned with Victor Gerren. What happened, what tests did 351 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: they do, and where did it come from. There's also 352 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the issue of the dog. What about that day Mac 353 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: Temples had a dog who was just vicious to everyone 354 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: except for the Temples. As a matter of fact, when 355 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: David Temple went across the street and gave evan to 356 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: the neighbors and said, hey, somebody broke into my house 357 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: called nine one one. The man of the house, I 358 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: think his name was Robert. He followed David Temple across 359 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: the guard into the house. He was trailing about twenty 360 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: yards behind David Temple goes in the house. The dog 361 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: was so vicious that this neighbor, Robert, was not allowed 362 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: entry into the home by that guard dog. On top 363 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: of that, when police arrived not long after the nine 364 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: one one call, they too were prevented from going into 365 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: the house by that guard dog, to the point where 366 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: they had pulled their servers with revolvers and were prepared 367 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: to shoot the dog when David came out and called 368 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: the dog down. So this dog wouldn't have allowed anybody 369 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: in that house, the killer except the killer in this case, 370 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: David Temple. Yes, he wouldn't allow anybody he didn't know 371 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: in that house. He would only allowed somebody that he 372 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: actually knew. We're talking David or Belinda. Those the only 373 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: two people that would have got past that dog. Do 374 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: you know anything about the gunshot? Residue issue. I know 375 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: that you know, I actually heard this argument for the 376 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: very first time, Nancy, when you interviewed Dick Nageron about 377 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: it on TV made me look it up. It went 378 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: to the FBI crime lab. They tested David Temple's jacket 379 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: and on that they found gunshot residue on that jacket. 380 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: And that's what you guys were actually arguing about. That 381 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: was the evidence that the pusculer resived to take to 382 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: the grand jury, that they actually had physical evidence putting 383 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: David Temple in that closet with that shotgun at the 384 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: time of the murder. And was that the jacket he 385 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: was wearing the day she was murdered according to what 386 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: I saw, Yes, wow, Wow, explain that. Break it down, 387 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: Karen Smith. That's a big deal. Half a huge deal. 388 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: You're talking about a jacket sleep with gunshot residue on it. Listen, 389 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: when gunshots happened, there's primer, a primer that's what fires 390 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: the projectile down the barrel. When those primer particles are heated, 391 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: they formed small little spears of very and lead an antimony, 392 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: and those small little spears are the gunshot residue that 393 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: FBI analysts and ballistics analysts look at under a microscope 394 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: that are telltale signs of gunshot residue. If that was 395 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: on his sleeve, I would want a really good explanation 396 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: of how it got there. There are transfers that can 397 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: happen between different like secondary transfers from the body, secondary transfers, 398 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: other things. But if it's on the sleeve of a 399 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: jacket and it's there's a lot of it there, that's 400 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: an explanation that needs to come to me. If there's 401 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: any there, it's very significant because gunshot residue can be 402 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: wiped off like baby powder. If he had gunshot residue 403 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: on his sleeve of his jacket, which would be there 404 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: if he shot a shotgun, that really places him within 405 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: thirty six inches of a shotgun that day. I think 406 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: it's damning. On another note, to all you moms and 407 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: dad's out there listening. If you're like me, you pour 408 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: all your love, all your dreams, all your hopes, all 409 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: your energy, all your money, all your everything into your children. 410 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: Can you imagine you go out of town for just 411 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: a couple of days and you get a call your 412 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: baby's missing. I cannot even think about it, but that 413 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: is What happened to Michael Stern? He gets a call 414 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: that his only child, his beautiful girl, Sarah Stern, is 415 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: missing and her car has been found abandoned on a 416 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: remote bridge. At first, they tell him they think she 417 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: committed suicide. He's like, no way, she didn't do that. 418 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: That couldn't happen. What happened to Sarah Stern? When you 419 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: see her picture, You're gonna flip. Bubbly, vivacious, aspiring artist, 420 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: had lived through losing her mother to cancer and fought back. 421 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: This Saturday at a special new time on Oxygen nine 422 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: PM Eastern, eight Central, What happened to Sarah's Stern? Injustice 423 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, Please join me? Thank you friend. I'll 424 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: see a Saturday nine o'clock Eastern, a brand new time 425 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Injustice with Nancy Grace. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A gorgeous, young, 426 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: pregnant mother of one found dead, shot execution style in 427 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: the head, eight months pregnant in the last hours, a 428 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: major break in the case. A Belinda Temple found dead. 429 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 430 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: being with us. A mother of one little boy, Viva, 431 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: He's just outgoing, beautiful, home eight months pregnant with her 432 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: second child. The family beloved by the whole community. The dad, 433 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: the popular high school football coach, and then she's found 434 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: dead well in the last hours. David Temple, the high 435 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: school football coach, star of the entire region they're in, Texas, 436 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: has been found guilty and his wife's murder. This is 437 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: a saga that started back in the nineties when Temple 438 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: was first suspected of shooting his pregnant wife. What could 439 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: possibly be a motive? A hot coworker now today, Matt 440 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: Crime online dot com investigative reporter tell me about Heather. 441 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: David Temple was having an affair on Belinda. At the time, 442 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: they told police it was a casual affair. Away wait 443 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: stop stop stop stop stop. No, there is no such 444 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: thing as a casual sex affair when you are married. 445 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: That ain't casual. I mean, is it just me? I mean, well, 446 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: Karen Start psychologist Karen Start dot com. Well, he says 447 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: it was just casual. I ain't. No. No, sex affair 448 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: is casual when you're married, not just married. His wife 449 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: is pregnant, so he's expecting another child and he's taking 450 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: the risk of having an affair with another teacher, so 451 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: it's and it's somebody whom he wound up marrying. So 452 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing casual about this affair. And Nancy, Okay, let 453 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: me back to you, Dave mac uh this so called 454 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: casual affair. Isn't it true that David Temple married Heather 455 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: and she became Heather Temple, which means anything they had 456 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: communicated to each other could not be testified to at trial. 457 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me go to Jason oceans On that 458 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: you're the defense lawyer. Jason, the marital privilege hosts of 459 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: wife privilege. The wife, let's just say, in this circumstance, 460 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: she's not the one that claims the privilege. The wife, 461 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: the ex wife Heather or Temple can get up on 462 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: the stand. Then David Temple invokes the privilege, says she 463 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: can't testify to that we were married to bowsle immunity, 464 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the basic tenants of protecting the 465 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: sanctity the contract of marriage, so that disaffection perhaps couldn't 466 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: call her the ability to go after your spouse. So 467 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: I think that was the original underlying basis in the law, 468 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: and it's continued in most jurisdictions all these years. Take 469 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: a listen to our friend Adam Bennett at KHOU. Heather Temple, 470 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: David Temple's second wife, filed for divorce yesterday in a 471 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: ford Been County court. The filing claims their marriage quote 472 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: has become insupportable because of disc or conflict of personalities. 473 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Heather Temple's attorneys told KG are you they're aware of 474 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: the divorce filing timing with the trial, but are asking 475 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: for privacy. We're hopeful that with the filing for divorce, 476 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: she'll be more candid, more forthcoming, and certainly more factual. 477 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: That's what she truly does know. Victim's advocate Andy Kahan, 478 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: has represented Belinda Lucas Temple's family since Belinda's murder. At 479 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: that time, Heather was having an affair with David. Heather 480 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: testified during the first trial, and she's on the list 481 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: to testify at this trial. There is a marital privilege, 482 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: so likes there's attorney client or priest penitent privilege. The 483 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: privilege survives a divorce. What about the fact that she 484 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: has now divorced him, That doesn't change anything. If there 485 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: were communications during the marriage, I mean they got married 486 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: before he was charged with murder. Is that right, Dave Mack, Yes, ma'am. 487 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: They actually got married about two years after the murder 488 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: of Belinda, and that would be five years before he 489 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: acts actually went on trial for murder. But the time 490 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: that we're talking about here where they were just in 491 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: there what they called a casual romance, and again I 492 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: agree with you, but that's not covered by spousal privilege. 493 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: The time of the murder and the time after that 494 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: does not include. It's not covered by spousal immunity because 495 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: they were actually Joe's boyfriend girlfriend. Let me ask you 496 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: a question. David Temple's mistress turned wife, Heather Temple, has 497 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: recently filed for divorce in the middle of the trial. 498 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Do you think it's just coincidence or do you think 499 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: it's because what she may or may not know out 500 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: to you? Karen start, Well, it's really you would think 501 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: if she believed his story that she wouldn't in the 502 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: middle of this trial decide that this is the perfect 503 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: time to divorce him. So there's something going on there, Nancy, 504 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: we don't know what it is. Well, Karen start, that's 505 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: certainly putting it mildly. Let's get back to reality. Take 506 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: a listen to the verdict being read out loud. In 507 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: a court of law, justice delayed was not justice denied. 508 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: We the jury find the defendant, David Mark Temple, guilty 509 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: of murder as charge in the indictment it signed at 510 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: the foreman of the jury. What a moment in a 511 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: court of law. Take a listen to Belinda's brother, Brian Lucas. 512 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: Last time he had ninety nine years and ten thousand dollars. Fine, 513 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: I can't see it being any different this time. Um, 514 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: I mean, look what he did. You put a shot 515 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: gun on the back of someonean's head. You got to 516 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: realize that's that's pretty higinous. I mean, just imagine. I mean, 517 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: that's about as sick as you get. No remorse, He's 518 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: never had remorse. Today was more He's try to date 519 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: more than and now he hasn't himself though that's for himself. 520 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: That's nothing to do for himself. And also keep in 521 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: mind a collateral damage that David Temple has caused obviously 522 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: to Belinda's family, but to Riley Joe Sanders as well, 523 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: who was forever tarnished with the stigmatize of what this 524 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: family and their supporters have done to him and his family. 525 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: For twenty years that he has to live with as well, 526 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: and we appreciate him just again being forthcoming, always willing, 527 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: and he's undergone a love it. The collateral damage by 528 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: David Temple, anyone he's come into contact with, he is 529 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: adversely affected. You know, I'm always leery of retrials many 530 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: many years after the fact, and I've had to do 531 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: them myself. I remember I had not been at the 532 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: prosecutor's office very long when a case that went down, 533 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: the murderer of and Atlanta police officers a brother. This 534 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: is what before I was even a law school. I 535 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: had to put that case back together again and retry it. 536 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: That is hard to do. Evidence loss, witnesses, memories fade. 537 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: It's really hard to do. But the prosecutors in this 538 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: case hung in there. A dramatic retrial finds high school 539 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: football coach, the superstar of the region, guilty in the 540 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: murder of his pregnant wife all the way back in 541 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine so he could continue his affair with 542 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: his so called hot coworker. David Temple, now convicted for 543 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: shooting his eight month pregnant wife, Belinda, in the back 544 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: of the head, killing her. You know, what you can't 545 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: hide from Lady Justice. You may run, but you can't hide. 546 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: I wondered sometimes if David Temple would ever be brought 547 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: to justice. Right now, Belinda, rest in peace and prayer 548 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: to your family. Nancy Gray Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,