WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Podcast | Scouts Talk Draft Evaluations (4/6) 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.320 Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We're launching a new 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.520 series as the NFL Draft inches closer. This is our 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.680 Draft podcast, presented by Dell Technologies at s a P. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.840 The Draft less than one month away. We're almost there. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.479 April is here, March madness is behind us. Speaking of 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.280 behind us, I got the victory tree behind us at 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:29.240 One Jets Drive. Um. The offseason program is actually supposed 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.960 to start at April nineteen for the New York Jets 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:33.479 and the rest of the thirty one clubs in the 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.280 National Football League. But I think most fans now that 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.960 those first tiers of free agency are complete, they're looking 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.200 ahead to the draft, and we're gonna have them covered. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.880 I can't wait for this month. The whole month. We're 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.319 gonna be loaded as far as content is concerned, where 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.680 we'll talk to different people externally and from inside the 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.440 building as well. So the Jets have two first round picks, 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:58.880 two third round picks, two fifth round picks. They got 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.840 nine picks overall, five in the first seven and this 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.520 is a scouts dream. We actually spoke to two national 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.120 scouts who you'll hear from today. Jay Mon DeLisi, one 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.040 of e as good friends and Don Green. Yeah, Mino 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.319 is a great friend. He's done with the organization for 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.600 seventeen seasons now, and his background is very diverse because 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.959 he started out in the coaching ranks and he's had 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.479 various scouting positions and now a national scout dom Green, 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.520 much like Mondelici. Yeah, he's so experienced this if you 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.920 look at his background, he played football in college, he 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.399 coached at the community college level, he was a head coach. Uh, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.479 He's worked for various teams in the National Football League too, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.679 very well respected guys within the organization, and Joe Douglas 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.120 talks about the talent he has assembled on his staff 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.840 and he's always he's always spoken of this is not 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:58.760 being unilateral, being the importance of everybody's voice in this process. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.720 And both those guys, they gave some inside as to 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.000 how weird of a year it was for them. I mean, 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.640 in a typical scouting year, scouts are on the road 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.800 a tremendous amount of time of the year. But in 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.280 any given week they're at multiple schools and then they 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.200 see a game on Saturday, they're talking to coaches players. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.320 That was not the case this season. Much like us, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.560 they had to do a lot of their work virtually, Yeah, 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.720 amazing amount of sacrifices in terms of what the scouts do. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:32.520 These guys who have families, typically during a year, they're 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.480 leaving early in the week and they don't come back 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.520 and see their families until later in a week, and 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.160 they collect those hotel points because they're always away from 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.640 home during the fall. But this year was anything but 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.600 typical for everybody in the world, and that impact of 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.200 the scouts because they were just not at the colleges 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.920 and the universities talking to their various sources, the people 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.840 on campus to get better intel on the people on 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.799 the prospects. So what they had to do, like all 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.480 of us, is get on zooms and Microsoft teams and 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.359 really do their homework and rely on their connections. And 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:13.240 then once the offseason started, the little twist in this, 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.959 the little curveball, was the Jets made a coaching change. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.600 So now you're scouting throughout the year, but the new 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.400 coaches come in and tell you we're running new systems 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.960 and these are the qualities, these are the physical skill 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.240 sets we're looking for and players and Dom Green and 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.840 Mondo both raved about Solomon and staff. During that process, 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:37.640 I heard the analogy ones the relationship between coaching staff 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.560 and scouts is almost like you're at dinner and they 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.760 the scouts present a menu, this is what we have, 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.000 and then the coaches are like, well, this is what 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.760 we want and this is what we're looking for. And 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.880 I thought that was an interesting way to break it down. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.600 And like you mentioned, everyone has talked about those meetings 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.560 between the new coaching staff and the scouts, and everyone 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.560 has said how productive those meetings have been. I mean, 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.720 Greg net Him talked about it a little bit earlier 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.240 on the podcast, and you know, I think that it's 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.560 gonna be fascinating to see what types of players the 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.960 Jets will in fact draft come April thirty and May first, 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.600 just because we don't know what this offense will look 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.239 like right now. Everyone's thinking, well, okay, it's probably somewhat 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.360 of a Shanahan looking offense, but we just don't know 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.640 what kind of wrinkles Michael Floor wants to add or 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.040 what kind of traits he values in any position. In 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.920 the same thing with coach Sala and Jeff Albrick on 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.800 the defensive side of the ball. Yeah, it's exciting if 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.679 you really think about it, and you're starting to see 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.800 You saw it in free agency. Joe Douglas set values 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.799 for players, and the Jets were aggressive when they needed 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.880 to be, and they got in here a group of 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.640 players who I think are gonna fit in very well. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.440 One quality that you know that Robert Sala Joe Douglas 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.839 are looking for you better love love football, and Sala 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.080 is a big investment guy. You know he's gonna put 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.160 an investment in a as the players gotta put investments 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.599 in this team and this organization. You really feel like 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.560 this is the start of a new era. Bottom line. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.320 If you're a Jets fan, you know last year it 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.840 was very tough, but I think once the calendar turned 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.599 there was a lot of new There was a lot 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.359 of work to be done that there's still is a 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.680 lot of work to be done, but there's opportunity and 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.680 a big Douglas philosophy is free agency is nice. It's 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.559 a supplementary piece. We're gonna add quality parts, but we're 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.640 our lifeblood is going to be the draft. It's going 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.880 to be drafting and then Robert Sale and company development. Actually, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.200 Mont Deelici and Don Green both told us who the 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.559 Jets were taking at number two. Now I'm just kidding, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.680 but let's hear from Jamon Delicy and Don Green say, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.960 thanks a lot for joining us today. Yeah, thanks for 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.280 having me guys. How you guys doing pretty good, you know, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.120 hanging in there, and let's I think that's a good 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.520 way to start off because COVID has thrown a wrench 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.920 in everybody's plan. So for you and a non pain 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.320 endemic world, what does your life look like being a 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:08.080 national Scout? So traditionally we have three national scouts. Um, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.760 I covered main in Miami, so I'm the I'm the 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.120 second looking for the Jets. So we have two of 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.159 our area scouts, Andy Davis and Alonzo Dotson who who 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.760 covered the northeast and southeast respectively. Um, they do a 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.400 great job coming through rosters and finding players for us, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.560 and then I come through as that second opinion. Um, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.120 you know, if they like a player, I'll take another 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.440 look at them. There are some players maybe they're not 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.240 as interested in that I still take a look at. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.120 Maybe we have different opinions. So it's just a second 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.159 second set of eyes on players. Like I said, down 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.520 the East coast, all right, So Mondo and I go 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.760 aways back. We've known each other close to twenty years, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.559 so we gotta put that out there first. I gotta 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.920 ask you, because we talk often about this, how different 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:56.000 as this calendar year been for you? Because you just 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:00.240 said from Maine to Miami. So oftentimes I would have eagine, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.080 in a normal year, you're on the road, you're away 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.880 from your family. What was it like this past fall? Yeah, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.240 So traditionally we spent about two hundred days, um a year, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.880 I would say, on the road. Um. And with with 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.040 COVID hitting, you know, put a wrenching things for all 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.920 thirty two teams. So we're on the same boat. So 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.680 you know, my goal and airing the season was to 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.200 make everything as normal as I could. So I set 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.040 up a home office here, I got a TV, I 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.800 have have iPad surfaces, iPhones, you name it, tablets. Um. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.560 That allowed me to try to do my job, um 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.320 the same I would be on the road. So instead 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.600 of walking into a school every morning and watching tape, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.400 I come down here in my office and do the 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.200 same thing. And instead of meeting with coaches for you know, 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.320 a couple of hours a day in their offices, we 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.600 had to do it on Zoom or Microsoft teams and UM, 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.360 you know, it was very different, but like I said, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.440 all thirty two teams were kind of dealt the same hand. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.640 So I tried to make it as normal as I 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.640 could and and and try to accomplish the same things 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.360 I would on the road, but here volume wise, How 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.400 different was it in terms of wouldn't it be a 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.760 typical week for you in a fall you leaving maybe 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.960 on Sunday or Monday, and stay going to multiple colleges 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.400 during the week and then coming back and maybe to 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.600 where you reside there in North Carolina, like on a Thursday, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.960 Like how many schools did you actually go to and 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.880 see maybe a game in person? So during the week, 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.920 we weren't allowed to travel and go to school. So, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.960 you know, like I said, I tried, if I normally 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.040 travel to five schools during a normal year, then I 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.360 try to watch do like I call the virtual school 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.959 trip UM do five schools and then I was able 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.360 to go to fourteen games this year. Living in the 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.400 North Carolina area, there's a lot of schools around here 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.800 in South Carolina, Georgia. So I was able to see 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.199 twenty one of my assigned teams. UM we were allowed 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.840 to go to games and socially distanced with masks and 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.440 at least be in the stands and see kids live. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.480 So so, like I said, every Saturday was probably more 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.439 busy than usual, but it was a good opportunity to 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.760 go see the players live. You said you went to 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.559 fourteen games this season. Just to put things in perspective, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.600 how many games would you have gone to if COVID 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.000 didn't exist. I would say still in that tend to 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.000 tend to twelve range. Um, you know, a lot of 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.120 a lot of our legwork has done through the week. Um, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.280 we see these guys practice, which to me is a 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.319 little more valuable than the games. Obviously we'll get the 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.280 games on on tape, we'll be able to watch that. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.040 As far as seeing guys live, there's a lot more 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.439 volume during practice. So Monday through Friday we're on the 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.520 road watching guys practice for three or four hours at 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.959 a time. Um. So I was able to go to 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.079 a few more games, but um, like I said, probably 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.440 about ten on a normal year. But really the weekends 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.440 our time to kind of get back home and regroup 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.400 for the next week usually, but this year, those Saturdays 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.200 were really the heavy listing for us. As far as 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.960 seeing guys, somewhat of a blessing in disguise for you 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.680 on a personal level because you mentioned in a normal 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.360 year two nights you're away from home. Uh, so many 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.880 nights during the fall, and you've got two young sons, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.040 adorable young sons of Bryson Land and a beautiful wife 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.720 and Michelle. I would imagine you spend a lot more time, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.400 a lot more quality time with on this fall. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.080 that was one of the definitely one of the benefits 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.000 of this um. You know, being able to be a 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.480 dad a little more and bring my kids to school, 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.920 which isn't something I'm usually able to do, or you know, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.960 I joked, we had we had meetings through February and 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.760 we take a five minute break and I was able 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.720 to go play some street hockey for five quick minutes. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.440 So that part has been great. But at the same time, 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.320 you know, we do have a job to do, and 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.640 luckily my kids and my wife were understanding of that. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.000 I joked that this is kind of like a radio 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.240 station where when my doors were shut, I'm on the air. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.520 It can't be bothered. So, you know, it was kind 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.280 of that balance. You know, they're used to me being 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.679 on the road of being gone and now they had 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.120 to learn that and I'm working, but I just got 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.720 to do it here. So that's definitely one of the 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.480 better parts being around more. But you know, like I said, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:47.719 at the end of the day, we still had a 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.800 job to get done. Hey, Ethan, I like that line. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.640 It's like a radio station. I was gonna bring that 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.520 up to what e A and I are very familiar 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.600 with that, being in our own e A's in the 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.800 in the bed MGM studio, but in the home studio. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.120 But the door shut it means do not enter. Maybe 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.400 I should try to get one of those on air signs. Yeah, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.080 I got the windows in my office, so you know, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:08.480 my kids would come to the window and I'd give 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.560 them a quick you know, at least you can do 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.600 that from like a side profile. If you know someone 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.640 comes up in the peripheral, you just stand stick out 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.800 your arm like nope, nope, not now. But when Jay, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:24.000 when you mentioned about seeing players live, just generally speaking, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.520 how difficult is that challenge this year when you don't 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.400 have the same access and you're trying to project players 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.560 not only that played, but also who didn't play in 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.199 two thousand twenty, whether because of opt outs or because 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.679 their seasons were canceled. So the thing I would say 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.400 that at the end of the day, it's the film, right, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.880 Like the film is most important, and and that didn't 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.920 change from our standpoint. You know, they still played games, 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.040 which we were really fortunate, and we still got all 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.800 the films, So we're still valuing the players. As far 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.559 as seeing guys live, you know, that's a chance for 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.320 us to kind of see them interact. It's a chance 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.200 to see them physically, how their bodies are and how 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.920 much they can develop physically. Um, it's a good chance 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.480 to see them interact with their teammates, and it's a 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.320 good chance to talk to them one on one. So 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.439 while it was a bit of a challenge not seeing 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.480 them as much, like I said earlier, thirty two teams 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.280 were in the same boat, So no one's gonna be 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.520 able to use that as an excuse. But me being 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.920 able to get out to see the four teen games 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.600 and then going out to the Senior Bowl and being 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.440 able to conduct a hundred and thirty some odd interviews 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.319 and seeing the practice and now heading into this week, 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:24.679 we're going out to Pro Day. So I think at 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.200 the end of the day, we'll get everything we needed. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.720 It might have been a little navigating through to get 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.000 to where we are gonna be in April, but at 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.280 the end of the day, we'll still get to see 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.520 basically every player we need to see and in the 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:40.120 film still there, So we're not gonna make any excuses too. Farder, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.080 you just mentioned a mobile Alabama and the Senior Bowl. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:49.800 How unique was this year and then how different does 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.079 it feel no combine this year that you guys are 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.880 just going straight to Pro Day. Yeah, the Senior Bowl 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.520 is great. They did a great job putting that on 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.200 UM where there's a lot of skepticism going out through 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.280 the fall if it was gonna happen, Um, they were 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.080 able to make it happen. And not only that, but 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.560 we really felt safe. You know, there's testing done every day. Um, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.280 we were socially distanced. They kept everyone apart of practices 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.960 and even through the interview process, which we've never done 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.280 a hundred and thirty interviews. It's just it's not as 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.080 easy to do that. But they were able to set 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.920 it up so every player came to your table. Um, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.280 you didn't have to fish guys out, and they had 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.960 you know, a barrier to keep things socially distant, and 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.200 we were able to interview those and and those are 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.760 really valuable. Um as far as the pro as the 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.760 Pro days go, you know, not much changes there either. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.520 I mean, at the end of the day, they're still 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.679 gonna run forties, they're still gonna do position drills, they're 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.040 still gonna jump, We're still going to measure them. You know. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.960 Now they've got one chance to do it. They don't 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.959 have to. So a lot of guys work out the 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.600 combine and if that doesn't go well for them, it's 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.880 all gonna come down their Pro Day. Now we're gonna 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:48.400 be going out there and this is your one shot 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.680 to impress us. So that's different. But you know, not 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.760 much else will change from that standpoint. You've gotta talked 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.559 about it when you were mentioning the Pro Days. But 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.760 I think a lot of fans are a lot of 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.760 people that follow the NFL will say, like, well, what 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.480 can you really learn at a pro day because most 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.440 athletes look good in shorts and a T shirt going 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.960 through different position drills. Can you expand on that a 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.280 little bit more about the benefit of Pro days not 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.120 only this year, but in every year. So I would 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.320 say this year more than ever, the measurables are gonna 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.280 be really important because of COVID going on last spring 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.320 and then with no combine, we don't have verified measurables 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.240 on some of these guys. So as far as height, weight, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.560 their arm length, their hands size, this this will be 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.600 our first chance to measure them from that standpoint. UM, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.520 the testing is always a valuable tool. UM. It's not 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.960 going to drive our decisions, but a lot of times, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.880 you know, if a guy tests well, or maybe he 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.920 doesn't test well, that's a great um reference point to 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.320 go back maybe and watch them tapes. So so maybe 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.560 we have a player that we thought was really fast, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.120 really explosive, and he ran poorly. You know, that's not 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.080 gonna kill the player, but it's gonna force us to 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.800 maybe go back and just double check, you know, the tape. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.320 So we we like to look as like a cross 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.200 check um from that standpoint. And it's also our chance 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.800 to see them up live doing drills, see their footworks 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.880 either athleticism, stuff like that. It's just another exposure up 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.240 close to these guys. We talked to Greg Naguma recently 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.760 raved about the meetings of personnel department had with coach 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.440 Salo and his staff here in the off season when 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.760 Salo was hired and you knew that new systems were 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.240 coming in place on offensive side of the ball under 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.160 Michael Fleur, on the defensive side of the ball under 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:27.280 Salah and all Brick. What happened? How did that impact 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.640 you guys in terms of them coming in and talking 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:35.080 about their systems and you talking about your processes as well. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.640 So we've already evaluated all these players, right and and 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.280 we kind of know how we feel about them. But 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.240 what our coaches did a tremendous job of is letting 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.200 us know what they like. And at the end of 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.280 the day, trades are still trades. Guys are either faster, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.600 or they're strong, or they're competitive all that, but we 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.120 had a better feel for what fits into their systems, 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.120 so you know, whether it's size or speed, whatever qualifiers 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.200 there are for their systems. We're now aware these are 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.800 what works and maybe this isn't what works. So now 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.840 we know as we go back out on the road 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.440 here in March, these are the type of guys that 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.720 are coaches want and and they did a great job 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.160 of explaining that and showing us some of the traits 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.800 they really like to where maybe we can have a 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.480 bit of a sliding scale. If this guy is really 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.000 good at one thing and not as good as the other, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.200 he might fit into what they do. Oh sorry, go 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.800 go ahead. They are are. We've done really good job 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.600 adjusting our terminology as well, because every coaching staff, you know, 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.680 there's still living players on the field that they have 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.640 certain ways they like to call things. Um, so we've 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.680 had to adjust on the fly, which has been good. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.320 And like I said, they've been really active and kind 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:40.320 of letting us know their standards. Is there what challenge? 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.920 How difficult is it to get a feel for a 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.360 prospect when you're meeting with them over zoom as opposed 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.760 to meeting somebody in person, let's say at the Senior 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.240 Bowl and getting to meet somebody face to face even 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.160 though you're distance with the plexiglass and the mask, Like, 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.240 is that difficult? It can be? You know, you try 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:00.800 to throw them off the as you can. You know, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.480 these guys are are trained on what questions to answer 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.199 and what they're gonna be asked, so you try to 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.560 make it as much as much comfortable as they can 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.720 be and just kind of get to know them and 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.800 try to ignore the fact that you're on zoom and 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.560 just talk to them and and try to do as 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.080 many interactions as you can. And maybe it's setting up 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.760 the zoom. We get to learn a little bit about 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.159 them and and you know, once we get on it, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.600 we'll ask them about their family and about how they 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.720 learn and there their system. So it's it's not too different. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.080 At the end of the day, you're still talking to 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.160 each other, but it's a little bit of a challenge 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.400 to get them comfortable. What's the mood of the scouting 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.080 department knowing that you have all this draft capital in 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.440 two thousand one to use. I don't think you could 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.880 be more excited as a scout to have this many picks. Um. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.240 You know, our work is gonna get put out there, 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.359 um with uh five picks in the first three rounds, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.000 and we're gonna have another one early in the fourth, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.880 and two more in the fifth, and and Joe made 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.040 a point that if we stand where we're at after 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.120 the fifth round, will have had an entire drafts worth 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.399 of picks, you know, before we even get to the 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.320 sixth round. And you know, we spent three sixty four 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.880 days just just grinding away and getting as much information 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.680 as we can to provide to Joe, and we're confident 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.760 he's gonna make the right decisions based on the information 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.200 we give him. Now joined by another National Scout, Dom 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.399 Green Dom. Thanks for joining us today. Yeah, thanks for 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.080 having me. It's it's good to be here. So, you know, 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.040 I didn't ask Jamon Delicy this, but I kind of 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.600 regret it. So I'm gonna ask you. This is how 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.760 we're gonna kick things off as a National Scout. How 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:35.560 many of the fifty states have you been to? Oh? Uh, well, 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.199 I mean the way we do it is so like 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.119 I have the central part of the country basically, the 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.439 Central time zone. Jay does the eastern you know, the 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.400 Eastern time zone basically, and Zach Trudy does the western 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.800 or the you know, the Mountain zone. So um, so 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.359 you know, we don't go every state in the Union. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.160 We just kind of have a broader area then, uh 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.040 that our area does. But Tom, I think over the years, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:09.560 that's what Ethan was saying. Over the years, I've never 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.600