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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We're launching a new

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Speaker 1: series as the NFL Draft inches closer. This is our

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Speaker 1: Draft podcast, presented by Dell Technologies at s a P.

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Speaker 1: The Draft less than one month away. We're almost there.

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Speaker 1: April is here, March madness is behind us. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: behind us, I got the victory tree behind us at

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Speaker 1: One Jets Drive. Um. The offseason program is actually supposed

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Speaker 1: to start at April nineteen for the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: and the rest of the thirty one clubs in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. But I think most fans now that

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Speaker 1: those first tiers of free agency are complete, they're looking

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Speaker 1: ahead to the draft, and we're gonna have them covered.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for this month. The whole month. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be loaded as far as content is concerned, where

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to different people externally and from inside the

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Speaker 1: building as well. So the Jets have two first round picks,

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Speaker 1: two third round picks, two fifth round picks. They got

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Speaker 1: nine picks overall, five in the first seven and this

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Speaker 1: is a scouts dream. We actually spoke to two national

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Speaker 1: scouts who you'll hear from today. Jay Mon DeLisi, one

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Speaker 1: of e as good friends and Don Green. Yeah, Mino

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Speaker 1: is a great friend. He's done with the organization for

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Speaker 1: seventeen seasons now, and his background is very diverse because

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Speaker 1: various scouting positions and now a national scout dom Green,

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Speaker 1: much like Mondelici. Yeah, he's so experienced this if you

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Speaker 1: look at his background, he played football in college, he

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Speaker 1: He's worked for various teams in the National Football League too,

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Speaker 1: very well respected guys within the organization, and Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: talks about the talent he has assembled on his staff

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Speaker 1: and he's always he's always spoken of this is not

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Speaker 1: being unilateral, being the importance of everybody's voice in this process.

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Speaker 1: And both those guys, they gave some inside as to

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Speaker 1: how weird of a year it was for them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in a typical scouting year, scouts are on the road

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Speaker 1: see a game on Saturday, they're talking to coaches players.

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Speaker 1: That was not the case this season. Much like us,

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Speaker 1: they had to do a lot of their work virtually, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: amazing amount of sacrifices in terms of what the scouts do.

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Speaker 1: These guys who have families, typically during a year, they're

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Speaker 1: the prospects. So what they had to do, like all

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Speaker 1: of us, is get on zooms and Microsoft teams and

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Speaker 1: really do their homework and rely on their connections. And

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Speaker 1: then once the offseason started, the little twist in this,

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Speaker 1: the little curveball, was the Jets made a coaching change.

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Speaker 1: So now you're scouting throughout the year, but the new

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Speaker 1: and these are the qualities, these are the physical skill

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Speaker 1: Mondo both raved about Solomon and staff. During that process,

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Speaker 1: I heard the analogy ones the relationship between coaching staff

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Speaker 1: I thought that was an interesting way to break it down.

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Speaker 1: And like you mentioned, everyone has talked about those meetings

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Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to see what types of players the

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Speaker 1: just because we don't know what this offense will look

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Speaker 1: You saw it in free agency. Joe Douglas set values

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Speaker 1: this is the start of a new era. Bottom line.

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Speaker 1: a big Douglas philosophy is free agency is nice. It's

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Speaker 1: our lifeblood is going to be the draft. It's going

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Speaker 1: but let's hear from Jamon Delicy and Don Green say,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us today. Yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me guys. How you guys doing pretty good, you know,

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Speaker 1: hanging in there, and let's I think that's a good

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Speaker 1: national Scout? So traditionally we have three national scouts. Um,

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Speaker 1: opposed to just go into the stadium, which is what

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00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: most of this process has looked like in a COVID world. Yeah. So,

432
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, when you go into the school, you're gonna

433
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: talk to anybody that will talk to you. So whether

434
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: it be the the academic people, the trainers, UM, the

435
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: support staff, you know, the guys that do the their

436
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: personnel for their team. Uh, and obviously their coaches. So

437
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, scouting is all about relationships and how you

438
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: acquire information. Um. How you really get to the inner

439
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 1: heart and soul of the player is uh, you know,

440
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: based based off of your your sources at the school

441
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: and trusting and getting to know them, um, you know,

442
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: and the only way to do that is by being

443
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,959
Speaker 1: in the school and having conversation and and just um

444
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, uh, developing friendships over time there. You know,

445
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: we kind of talked about this a little bit with

446
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Jay how All thirty two teams are in the same

447
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 1: boat trying to navigate the different hurdles that COVID nineteen

448
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: has thrown in your evaluation process. But what do you

449
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: think the biggest challenges for every scouting department? Uh, well,

450
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's, um the biggest challenges that

451
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us have not seen these

452
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: players physically until now, and um, so it's gonna like uh,

453
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all have our own general

454
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: uh you know, feelings towards the player, but once you

455
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: see the player move live in action, you know, either

456
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: at the pro day or in his workout, um or

457
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: in his testing all that type thing. Um, you know,

458
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: so you're not really gonna, you know, know exactly what

459
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: you're getting until after these days are over with. So

460
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: it just kind of is putting more premise on these

461
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: pro days. And you know it's putting more you know obviously, Uh,

462
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: you know, there's only one shot for these kids to

463
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: perform on these pro days because um, you know, we're

464
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 1: not allowed to work him out individually and all that

465
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: type thing. So, um, that to me is the biggest

466
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: difference is just the more you know, it's more on

467
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: us on the Pro day as opposed in the past.

468
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: You know, kids have the opportunity to perform and and

469
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: and meet people at the combine, and you know there's

470
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: more all star opportunities and all that. So really it's

471
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: all boiling down to to one day. You know, for

472
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, from your perspective, you've gone

473
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: to so many combines in the past, what were the

474
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: biggest advantages? Most significant advantage is the combine And like

475
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: you take that away, how much do you think the

476
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: prospect themselves put an emphasis into these pro days now

477
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: because you're jumping from the end of the season for

478
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: some of them right into the pro days, right, And

479
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, and the beauty of the combine was everything

480
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: was there was to a standard of of how the

481
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: how the forty was. It was indoors, it was a

482
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: sterile environment, there was no wind. So now we've got

483
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: to be able to compare guys, you know, say, same position,

484
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: this guy was running indoors on on you know, brand

485
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: new field turf, as opposed to a guy that ran outdoors, uh,

486
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: with and against the wind? Or did he run both

487
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: times with the wind? Although there's there was a lot

488
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: more variables. Uh, you know, when factoring their measurements and

489
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: all that type type of thing. So but really at

490
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: the end of the day, for me personally, you just

491
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: want to really get your eyes on the kid, see

492
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: how he competes in these days, right and uh, and

493
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: see how it matches up and marries up to the tape.

494
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: And obviously you know, meeting with the staff and the

495
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: coaches and that type thing again where we haven't had

496
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: that opportunity until now. Uh as big as well. So, um,

497
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: you know there's a that to me is the biggest thing. Um.

498
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: And as far as the difference is in that it's

499
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: just the combine allowed at a sterile environment, everybody's doing

500
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: things the same way. Now you know, we can go

501
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: day to day and you know, guys might be might

502
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: be allowed to brace on the on the broad jump,

503
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: at some places they may not be allowed to. So

504
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: it's it's um, uh, it's gonna it's gonna take some

505
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: some thought and um you know you're not gonna just

506
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: be able to compare apples and apples, if that makes sense.

507
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: What about as a group, you know, how excited are

508
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: you guys to finally take all your work all year

509
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: round and finally put it on paper, per se and

510
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: show you know, not only Joe and his staff and

511
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: but also like the Jets fans, like this is who

512
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: we've been scouting and these are the this is the

513
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: future of your team. Yeah. So, uh, I think we're

514
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: all very fired up to have the opportunity that we

515
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: have armed with nine picks right now to go into

516
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: this draft and really make a difference, um through through

517
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, and um uh you know, all

518
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: of our hard work, all those things, it all comes

519
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: truition on draft day. But really and truly, all of

520
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: our work is you know there our reports stay with

521
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: the players, so it doesn't go uh, it doesn't get

522
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: dismissed just because we don't draft a certain player. It'll

523
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: our our work will stay with that player as he

524
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: progresses throughout his time in the NFL, if that makes sense.

525
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: So four or five years from now, when say a

526
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: player from another team is up, you know, that way,

527
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: our pro uh scouts will have an opportunity to go back,

528
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: read our character, read what we thought about the player,

529
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: and uh you know, and it helps them make a

530
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: decision moving forward to free agency. So that's why for

531
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: me anyways, you know, having your boots on the ground

532
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: at the school and uh, you know, really diving into

533
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: each player's makeup, their character, all those things. It's really important.

534
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: And uh obviously whoever we select, um, you know, we

535
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: we need we need that player to be who we

536
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: said they were going to be, if that makes sense.

537
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: So UM, I know, I know a lot of us

538
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: are all fired or very fired up to you know,

539
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: when you got nine picks, you know, you feel like

540
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: you can really impact the team. What was your initial

541
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: reaction when you heard that the Jets had a new

542
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff and how did those meetings go with coach Sala,

543
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, Michael Fleur of course, a new

544
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and Jeff all Brick as well. You guys

545
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: are changing up systems because everybody that Ethan and I

546
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: have talked about have said the communication was just tremendous

547
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: in those sessions. Yeah, it was great. You know, I

548
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: haven't met him. I look forward to meeting everybody personally,

549
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: but just listening to everybody on the on the team's

550
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: call and uh and listen to what our coaches want

551
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 1: and and having a clear, uh concise vision uh for

552
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: how they want to you know, each side of the ball.

553
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: To be to be built. And uh it's great, you

554
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: know because the scout you know, our job is to

555
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: find out what a player can do, not necessarily what

556
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: he can't do. So I feel like everyone can do something,

557
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: all right, it's just a matter of you know, there's

558
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: a guy to fit for what we want, you know,

559
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: with the New York Jets. So, um, it's been really

560
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: good this so far, and really look forward to uh,

561
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: you know, getting back to New Jersey and getting in

562
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: the office and meeting everybody personally. This time last year, Tom,

563
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: which was when everything kind of went haywire and when

564
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: everything became all virtual. Now that you've had you know,

565
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: almost a year of all virtual meetings in a virtual

566
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: pre draft process, do you almost feel more prepared in

567
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: a virtual space than you know, a year from now

568
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: or a year in in reverse, if that makes any sense. Yeah.

569
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: But for me personally, uh, you know, I think we

570
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: we can all benefit. You know, obviously no one wanted

571
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: to go through all that, and uh, but but you

572
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: can take benefits away from you know, some of the

573
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: some of the hurdles, some of the things, uh, you know,

574
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: we had to overcome, you know, through like video sessions

575
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: and all that type stuff that will benefit us moving

576
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: forward and help us as a staff and as a

577
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: group collectively. Um, you know, be able to share ideas,

578
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: listen to one another, all those type things, and you know,

579
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: because we don't necessarily have to be in all in

580
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: the same room, if that makes sense. So I think

581
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: in that regard, it's uh, it's helped uh a lot

582
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: of the scouting community. Is that music to your ears

583
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: as a scout when Joe Douglas says the main way

584
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna build this thing is by drafting and developing players, Yeah,

585
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: it is because I mean, at the end of the day,

586
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's a collaborative effort of all parties involved.

587
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: All of our you know, oords are in the water.

588
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Everyone's pulling the same same way, in the same direction,

589
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's really good. It's really refreshing. Um,

590
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, because the draft, you know, you want to

591
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: develop your own and uh and and and build through

592
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: the draft because that's uh, you know, the core of

593
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: your football team. Really fascinating stuff from both of those guys,

594
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: just giving a peek behind the curtain as to what

595
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: their processes look like. And April nine, here's the good news.

596
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Last year, everything was virtual. People were scrambling, how do

597
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: you work from home? What's the draft gonna be? Roger

598
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: Goodell was announcing the picks from his home. Now, it

599
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: seems like each team will have a contingency in their

600
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: war room in their building a limited number, and the

601
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: draft will be in person in Cleveland, Ohio. Yeah, how

602
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: about that? The draft in Cleveland this year? And if

603
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: the Jets state number two, uh, Jets Nation doesn't have

604
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: to wait to hear that first name called. But make

605
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: no mistake about it, those other eight picks are very

606
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: important too. I know a lot of long time scouts,

607
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: a lot of long time personnel people will say, you

608
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: really build the core your roster on days two, in

609
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: days three, you gotta hit on those early picks. There's

610
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, um, you know. And it's just

611
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: interesting that we will be talking about it for a

612
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 1: month now. But at the top of the draft, and

613
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: you've done so much study on this so far, those

614
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: first ten picks feels like it's gonna be dominated by

615
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: offensive skill position players. And what's crazy is with if

616
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: there's a run on quarterbacks early in the draft, a

617
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: lot of the top skill position players will be essentially

618
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: five through ten, six through ten, and we'll see what happens.

619
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating. But you know what I really

620
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: love about the draft, and this is such a minor

621
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: thing and I'm such a sucker for it, and we

622
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: didn't we got it last year to a degree. I

623
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: love the phone call from the GM to the prospect.

624
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: And you know, over teams it was good. But you know,

625
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: I love seeing the general manager pick up the phone,

626
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: the hard wired line here what the prospect has to say,

627
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: the raw emotion from the prospect. I mean, I'm such

628
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: a sucker for that. I love it. Yeah, there's all

629
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: these series and television and they say, you know these

630
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: these are real dramas. There's no drama like sports that

631
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: event itself. But also, can you imagine you at twenty

632
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: two years old a getting a call to be drafted

633
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: in the National Football League And over the years we've

634
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: seen the guys go up to the commissioner good doll

635
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: and give them the shake and the and the hug

636
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: and the tears, and it's just a It's a great

637
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: moment for a lot of people because there's so many people.

638
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: It takes a village to build somebody up and I

639
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: think that, Um, there are so many people excited. And

640
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: that's a great thing about draft weekend. Much like free agency.

641
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: You will go to I bet you if you want to,

642
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: every one of the thirty two teams following the draft.

643
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: They all feel good because you just and you just

644
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: added to your roster and you added talented pieces. So

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Speaker 1: it's just one step of the process. But it's a

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Speaker 1: cool weekend overall because it's the one weekend in the

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Speaker 1: year where everybody that nful feels pretty good. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is That's a great point. And we're about to ramp

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Speaker 1: up our draft coverage over all of our platforms. But

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Speaker 1: one question that's been posed, or that we've posed in

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Speaker 1: many different ways. I want to bring it to the

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Speaker 1: podcast is we know what the Jets have done in

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Speaker 1: free agency, at least in the early parts of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the meat and potatoes are free agencies now

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Speaker 1: in the rear view. So how do you think with

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Speaker 1: the new additions that potentially impacts maybe who the Jets

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Speaker 1: are looking at in the first couple rounds, at least

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Speaker 1: just from a position standpoint. Well, it's that old adits right,

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Speaker 1: it's best player available versus need. You want to go

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Speaker 1: into the draft with not a ton of pressing needs

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Speaker 1: because then you can force things. Joe Douglas we've learned,

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Speaker 1: I think throughout his tenure here his stint as GM

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Speaker 1: and the New York Jets, which is which is not

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Speaker 1: even two years old, by the way, he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: force things. Um. With that being said, I think if

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Speaker 1: it's close, you definitely go need what the Jets didn't

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Speaker 1: free agency, and we can talk about it here briefly.

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Speaker 1: Defensive line stands out. You need an audge guy. You

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Speaker 1: got Corey Lawson, who's a sending yeah yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: you got Carl Davis wide receiver. No. So you got

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Speaker 1: Carl Lawson, who a lot of people in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League think his better days are in front of him,

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Speaker 1: even though he was a quarterback disruptor in the past

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Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals. Maybe this is a home where

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Speaker 1: he can flourish under Salah and also Jeff all Brick.

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Speaker 1: And then across the way you add in Vinny Curry,

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Speaker 1: who's a culture guy who plays really hard, who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good fit. I think about defense alignment, I

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Speaker 1: think about the wide receiver position. Obviously, I missed spoke there,

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Speaker 1: but Corey Davis, he told the media the other day,

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Speaker 1: I consider myself a number one receiver. Jets certainly had

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Speaker 1: a need at wide receiver because you didn't know what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen with Brashad Perryman being unrestricted free agent. He

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Speaker 1: winds up in Detroit. Another guy, Keenlyan Cole. I think

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Speaker 1: Keenlan Cole is kind of went out of the radar

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Speaker 1: a little bit, very productive player in Jacksonville. Gives you

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Speaker 1: some position flexibility. So those were two clear areas of

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Speaker 1: need entering the off season, and they've started to address those. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that what you said earlier. When you go

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Speaker 1: a player at that position, but you don't have him

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Speaker 1: rated as highly as another player that's not at a

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Speaker 1: position of need, you maybe you forced it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Now the Jets are in a position where they go

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Speaker 1: into the draft with what I think many would consider

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Speaker 1: less needs, making it a little more unpredictable. You know,

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Speaker 1: would it surprised me if the Jets went, let's say,

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Speaker 1: with an edge rusher at twenty three or thirty four. No,

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Speaker 1: but with some will be like, well why are you

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Speaker 1: doing that? When you add Carl Awson, you add Sheldon

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Speaker 1: Rankins in the middle, you add Vinny Curry on one side.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is really where it becomes unpredictable because

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Speaker 1: the Jets can do so many different things. And also

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna depend how they view a certain player

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Speaker 1: and who's on the board when they're on the clock.

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Speaker 1: And Rankins, I'm glad you mentioned him because he makes

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Speaker 1: it fun because and just imagine a rotation on the

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Speaker 1: defensive interial got Fatakas, he got Shopperd, you got Rankings,

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Speaker 1: who's you know, when he's healthy, he can really go

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Speaker 1: and push that pocket win. And Williams is one of

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Speaker 1: the he's the top player in this roster right now.

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Speaker 1: Just look at it and put him a mackay back

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Speaker 1: in side by side. I don't care um running back.

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Speaker 1: You have a lot of numbers already. You added Tevin Coleman,

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Speaker 1: who's very familiar with Michael fleur as we've talked about

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Speaker 1: his system fit. And then you got La Michael p Ryan,

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Speaker 1: Ty Johnson, Josh Adams. Uh So, there are a couple

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Speaker 1: of positions that stand out as we sit here, and

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Speaker 1: this could change tomorrow. But Nickel, who's your Nickel opening day?

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Speaker 1: That's a question right now. Brian Pool remains an unrestricted

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Speaker 1: free agent. Javelin Guidry did some good things for you

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Speaker 1: last year. How you situated at the cornerback position, also

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Speaker 1: at guard? Yet Dan Feenie and free agency the mullet

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Speaker 1: as you called him, Um, you know what what potentially

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do there? Titans fascinating just because where the

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Speaker 1: Jets are at there at number two overall in this

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Speaker 1: dude from Florida, Wow, where he's a free Where is

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitt's gonna go? Well? See, Okay, so this is

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Speaker 1: a great question. Let's just have a little fun here.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, well, number one is a quarterback? Okay, that

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Speaker 1: Jets are not at number two. Most people would say quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Right number three, most people are saying quarterback. Now you're

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Speaker 1: at four with the Atlanta Falcons. Okay, let's say they

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Speaker 1: stay put. Are they going the Matt Ryan's successor are

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Speaker 1: they adding Kyle Pitt Stewart offense that has Julio Jones,

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. I mean that would be sick all right,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, where do you want to go in

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Speaker 1: this scenario? Well, I don't know. I'm just wondering as

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Speaker 1: you were talking. We talked to somebody from Cincinnati the

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Speaker 1: other day, and while you were talking, I just started thinking,

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Speaker 1: what if Cincinnati has got Jory Burrow who went to

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Speaker 1: LSU was very impressive as rookie season, got banged up

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and they had Jamar Chase on the clock,

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Speaker 1: but also Kyle Pitts was still out there. See, I

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Speaker 1: think that's fascinating. Let's say for this and and Seuel Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's say for this argument. I just want to

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Speaker 1: bring this full circled little Jets tie here. Let's say

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Speaker 1: number five is Jamar Chase number six in Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: on the clock? Do they go Kyle Pitts and or

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Speaker 1: do they help out their young quarterback with Penne Sewell,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why we love the draft, and

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Speaker 1: I want to be clearer about the quarterback position because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to people at the quarterback position here

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Speaker 1: over the next month. There's no doubt about that. But

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Speaker 1: the last time Joe Doug was talked, he was clear

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Speaker 1: that he thinks that Sam Donald's unbelievable talent and he's

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Speaker 1: going to reach the ceiling of the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: But he will listen if people do call. And there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of quarterbacks in this draft that people

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Speaker 1: think awfully highly off. And we're taping this a couple

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Speaker 1: of days on the heels of a couple of press

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Speaker 1: of pro day workouts, and you can film in on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Zach Wills and Justin Fields, both trained by

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Speaker 1: John Beck, both had similar scripts, so it seemed both

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Speaker 1: very impressive throws or very impressive throwing sessions, should I say,

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Speaker 1: and you know we'll see the field four four? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's insane, especially at the weight that he is. But look,

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Speaker 1: there are a thousand different layers to this on the Union.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna break them all down right here on the

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Speaker 1: Draft Podcast presented by Dell Technologies on SAP on the

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Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast, and we'll be back next week with

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Speaker 1: some more draft talk. Spl at Asen Pat in a

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