1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everyone, Welcome back to another episode of 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Green Out with John Little Coop on the College Coward 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Back at it again. A lot going on. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna dive into the Rams Patriot trade. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: That that really got uh my juices flowing. I got, 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: I got a couple of hot, hot, scorching takes on 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: that bad boy. Uh. There's there's a lot going on. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Draft wise, We're really not very far away. Uh. Some 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: things that Jim Mourra Josh Rosen's head coach X head 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: coach fired head coach said about him. I'll dive into that. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: And all four of the top quarterbacks are going to 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: meet with the Browns, and I've been a part of 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: those top thirty visits, those in house house visits before 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: the draft and give you a little insight on that. 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: But as I said, if you subscribe, rate review on 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: iTunes and you leave a question, I will answer them 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: on this podcast. I got. I think our first question 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: here from Mike in South Carolina, pretty easy question. What 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: do you think Patrick Mahomes two thousand eight stat eighteen 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: stat line will look like? And you know, I think 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. Its last two years in college he 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: threw picks. He's gonna be a quote unquote old school 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: gun slinger. I think that's why Coach Reid likes him 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: so much and Brett Veach. But he's gonna throw a 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns. And they have with Sammy Watkins, Tyree Hill, 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Kareem Hunt. They're loaded. I wouldn't be shocked 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: to see them even draft another skill guy in the draft. 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: That's Coach read loves his receiver, especially speed, So I 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: would go to thirty touchdowns, but probably thirteen to fifteen. 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's let's meet at fourteen. So let's go twenty nine touchdowns, 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: fourteen picks. I think he is going to have some 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: extraordinary games, some just eye popping wow moments. Uh. It's 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: technically a rookie season. I know it's a second year, 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: but he only started one game. He basically read shirted. 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Uh As in college we say you'd read shirt as 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: a freshman. It's kind of what he did. But he 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: did get the one game playing experience. His last game 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: his rookie year against the Denver Broncos starters. Now they 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: were having a shitty year, but he he looked good. 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: I watched that game. I think he's gonna be a superstar, 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna be looking at him and 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Derek battling out for years in the a f C. West. 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: Let's get into my my first thought on this trade. 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the ramps because I think, listen, 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: I like gambling. I kept on sports. I definitely love 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: going to casinos and playing blackjack. That's my game of choice. 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: And I think at times you learn you can be 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: a little reckless on the tables when you're betting, and 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: sometimes when you have a lot of when you've made 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: some money, you feel like, well, I'm just playing. It's 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: not technically my money because I showed up with let's 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: say five hundred bucks, and I turned that five hundred 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: bucks into two thousand bucks. Well, in reality, that fift 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: dollars is your money. Like you can walk away, But 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: as anyone that likes hitting the tables knows, it's hard 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: to walk away. And sometimes you get extra aggressive, you 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: start betting a lot more money, and you can lose 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: it all just as fast as you make it. And 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: my first thought yesterday watching Less Need, it feels like 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: he's on the card tables right now. He's on a 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: hot streak, and he's just getting reckless, and he's tripling 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: and quadrupling his bets. He started with betting twenty five 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: dollars a hand and now he's at betting two three 64 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: a hand. He's thinking he can't lose. He's bulletproof. And 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: yesterday he traded a first round pick for a wide receiver. 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: And I say it all the time when you're evaluating 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: transactions in the NFL money matters, this is not maddened. 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: You're not just trading a player for a player. I'm 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: not fleecing you in a video game. You're trading for 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: a player in Brandon Cooks. I like Brandon Cooks. I 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: thought last year when the Patriots traded for him, that 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: was a hell of a deal. They traded pick thirty two. 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I like that. It's a good 74 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: that's a good trade because a couple of weeks ago, 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: I guess it would have been longer than that. Now, 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: when the Rams traded for Marcus Peters, I didn't love 77 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: the trade. But from a financial standpoint, Marcus Peters is 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: not making his fifth year option money yet, He's gonna 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: be going into his fourth season. He is still making 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: relative I think he's making under two million dollars, So 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: from a financial standpoint, you're not taking a huge risk, 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: and I don't love giving up. They gave up a 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: mid round pick, I think a fourth rounder for Marcus Peters. 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Then I can live with that. It's a bold trade. 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: At anytime Andy Reid wants to get rid of one 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: of his top players, I would read flag it. But 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: the money I can live with what I what I 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: can't live with is in this trade. In my last 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: two years, less Need has traded for two wide receivers. 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: When he gave up a second round pick when he 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: got Sammy Watkins. This year, he gave up a first 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: round pick for Brandon Cooks. Obviously, Sammy Watkins walked in 93 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: free agency this year. You're acquiring a guy that makes 94 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: eight million dollars come off. You know. I still think 95 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: he played pretty well. He had sixty four catches over 96 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: a thousand yards, seven touchdowns, But statistically he's he had 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: better years in New Orleans in a year period in 98 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: twelve months. Sean Payton, one of the better coaches of 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, and Bill Belichick, the best coach 100 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: in the history of football, both said no I'm good 101 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: and reading this morning. Peter King on his MMQB was 102 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: writing that they tried to extend Brandon Cooks, but they 103 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: also had a number in mind. They were not going 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: to make him a sixteen million dollar receiver. They thought 105 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: he was eleven twelve million dollars. And no one's better 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: at understanding value in the NFL, arguably in NFL history 107 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: than Bill Belichick. He traded pick thirty two for Brandon 108 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Cooks uh and acquired him, and then a year later, 109 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: when the guy did not have as good of a 110 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: season as he did the year before, he traded him 111 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: for a better pick than he used. I mean, that's 112 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: incredible if I'm less sneed. What I don't understand is 113 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: how does it take a for surrounder to acquire Brandon Cooks. 114 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: I I think that I say this all the time 115 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: with the Odell Beckham scenarios, especially with the teams like 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: the Browns at pick fourt a pick nine. The thing 117 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: I struggle with is knowing how much I have to 118 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: pay Odell Beckham and knowing how cheap that player that 119 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: I could get at four or nine is, and how 120 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I have them under cost control, team control for a 121 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: long period of time at a low number. Well, I 122 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: don't have that with Brandon Cooks. I have him under 123 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: a relatively high number this year eight point it's almost 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: eight point five million dollars. But I can live with 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: that if he gives me seventy catches and eight nine touchdowns. 126 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: But then he's a free agent, so I either have 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: to franchise him. And if you've seen the Rams, they're 128 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: basically franchising a player every single year. They franchised Tremaine 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Johnson two years ago. They they franchise LaMarcus Joiner this year. 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: They're just next year if they do not have a 131 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: deal now less need said that they plan on getting 132 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald signed, but you never know, he would also 133 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: be a free agent. You also have multiple players next year, 134 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, you ever heard of him, He's pretty good 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: borderline m v P. Last year, time to get paid. 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: You have LaMarcus Joyner who you just franchise. You either 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: have to extend them franchises and again do something. Oh yeah, 138 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: that Marcus Peters guy will be heading into his fifth 139 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: year option. Time to pay him and then Brandon Cooks, Like, 140 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: eventually you have to pay all these guys, And I 141 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: like the the Dominican Sioux deal. It was a one 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: year deal. You put him next to Aaron Donald. I 143 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: like it a keep to leave love the trade. Didn't 144 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: have to get give up much. Well, I didn't love 145 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: the Marcus Peters trade. I don't think it's a it's 146 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: a killer if it doesn't totally work out because you're 147 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: not spending that much money and you didn't have to 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: give up that much this move. You just gave up 149 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: a first round pick for Brandon Cooks. Look at this, 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: you have Cooper Cup who should become one of the 151 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: better slot receivers in the league. Sixty two balls last year. 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: Robert Wood you resurrected his career. Now he's gonna be 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: a really good third. He got fifty six balls last year. Obviously, 154 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley had his breakout season last year, got sixty 155 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: four ball so he should still catch fifty plus next year. 156 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: You drafted last year Gerald Everett in the second round. 157 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: Let me read you a scouting report I got on 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: NFL dot com. They do every player that's coming out 159 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: each year, They kind of do a draft profile on 160 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: and they get these anonymous scouts or a f C 161 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: or NFC college directors to give a quote on a guy. 162 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: He could end up being one of the top past 163 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: catching tight ends in the NFL. Now, even if you're 164 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: being conservative, and that's a pretty bold statement, you'd say, well, 165 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: the guy you take him in the second round, he 166 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: ran a four six forty, he's six ft three, he 167 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: should become a really solid passing asset for your team. 168 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: That you go, shouldn't you have used that pick twenty three, 169 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: worst case, traded back a little bit and just drafted 170 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: a wide receiver at a much more cost controlled number. 171 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Where when you know you have to sign Todd Gurley, 172 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: you probably have to sign Marcus Peters, you eventually have 173 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: to sign LaMarcus Joiner. Aaron Donald has not been paid yet. 174 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 1: What if this no Dominican suit thing works out and 175 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: you want to keep him, like the money matters in 176 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I do think Less Need Listen. I 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: appreciate and I've said I'm one of the first podcasts 178 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: I ever did here on three Now. I love aggression, 179 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm all for it, but there's a little bit of 180 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: a difference between just being aggressive and being reckless, and 181 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: I think Less Need is starting to be reckless. Let's 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: get to the other side of the trade and Bill 183 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: Belichick and the New England Patriots, which it's hard whenever 184 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: they make a trade and not immediately go goddamn Belichick, 185 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: just one again. You know. One of the reasons I 186 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: was so excited when when Colin asked me to do 187 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: this is I've, obviously, like many of you that listen 188 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: to Collin Coward, I love the show, looked up to 189 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: him as a as a personality and the and the 190 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: way he thinks about things because he's helped shape a 191 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: lot a lot of my views and I think naturally 192 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot of my views were just aligned with his. 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: And one of the things he's always kind of hung 194 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: his hat on on his radio show was just being 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: unemotional when it when it comes to players, and having 196 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: worked in the NFL and seen it. Listen, I I 197 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: work in the media now. I've spent a lot of 198 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: time on Twitter and interacting with fans and seeing the 199 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: way people act, and people get very emotional with players. 200 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, I've worked in the front office. 201 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: I worked for Howie Roseman that probably, beside Belichick, is 202 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: just as apt to trade a player as anyone not 203 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: named Billy Bean or Darryl Morey that the emotion upstairs 204 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: in NFL building and Slim the nun. You're always looking 205 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: to improve, you're always looking to replace beside your star quarterback. 206 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: There really are no sacred cows on a team. You 207 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: literally would trade anyone for the right value. And that's 208 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the way pro sports are. This is a business, and 209 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times fans like the purity 210 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: of the game, the pure already of the sport. Now 211 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: it's just a business. Like if you're in real estate 212 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: and you look at you know, an ocean front property 213 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: or you know a piece of property in the slums. 214 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: It's no different than a than a bad football player, 215 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: than a good football player, than an appreciating asset than 216 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: a depreciating asset. It's just the assets and football are 217 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: your players are humans, but they're still assets. And this 218 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: is still a business. And no one's better at buying 219 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: low and selling hive in Bill Belichick, even Brandon Cooks, 220 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: who he I would say bought pretty high on. I mean, 221 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: he gave up a first round pick four and he 222 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: warranted it. He was a really good player and he 223 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: got seven touchdowns out of him sixty five catches. Was 224 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: really his one. Uh, I mean gros technically is one, 225 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: but one of you know, Brady's go to guys. This 226 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: year he got sixty five balls and had seven touchdowns 227 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: and then he flipped them off a year that was 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: not as good as the year he had in New Orleans. 229 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: When Bill acquire him for more like that, that is 230 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: just incredible that that is not normal. And I think 231 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Peter King wrote about this. Belichick was open to resigning them. 232 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: He just had a number. And unlike fans, and I'm 233 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: telling you and you know this, a lot of g 234 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: ms get worried and get in the mode that when 235 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: they do things that are a little outside of the box, 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: the fans will freak. So they do. The media and 237 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: the fans and the outside noise. I wouldn't say determines 238 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: the way actions in football in the NFL happened, but 239 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: it definitely influences it at times. It has zero influence 240 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: on Bill Belichick and it's why he is the best. 241 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: He's a cold blooded killer when it comes to player transaction. 242 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: He has a number and he thought Brandon Cooks eleven 243 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: twelve million, that's it, Like I I think you're a 244 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: good player. I hadn't understand the market, but this is 245 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: what we're willing to pay you. They say no, and 246 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: he says, okay, see you. And then he's always able 247 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: to find some kind of desperate team like the Rams 248 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: and able to flip the guy for a first round 249 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: pick that Bill Belichick was not gonna resign. On top 250 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: of that, he gets eight million dollars off the books. 251 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: What an incredible move. And then he also went, you know, 252 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: I saw a tweet of the main guys that Belichick 253 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: lost this offseason. Obviously, Brandon Cooks. He chose to trade 254 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler walked in free agency. So did Danny Amndola, 255 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: so did Nate Solder, and so did Dean Lewis. That's 256 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: that's a lot of good players right there. I mean, 257 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,119 Speaker 1: Dean Lewis, best running back, starting left tackle, Danny Amundola, 258 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: say what you want about him. Incredibly clutch player, made 259 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: a lot of big plays for the Patriots the last 260 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: several years in the playoffs. Malcolm Butler, I mean, his 261 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: story is without Malcolm Butler, they don't have a Super 262 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: Bowl championship. Two years ago when they won their second 263 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He was an All Pro in two thousand sixteen. 264 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: He was excellent. Obviously didn't play as well this year, 265 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: and then he got bench to the super Bowl, but 266 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: he was a cog to tow their run these last 267 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: three or four years. And my first reaction is, none 268 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: of it matters. None of it. I don't care. Brandon Cooks, 269 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Randy Moss, you just changed the name. If if he 270 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: ends up and you know, some people have said it's 271 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: fake news whether Rob Gronkowski gets traded, but I doubt 272 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: they trade him. But if they did, I don't think 273 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: it would be that crazy because again, Belichick botlow in 274 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: the second round has ridden him to this Hall of 275 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: Fame career these last six seven years. Let's face it, 276 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean, how many good years does Gronk haf left. 277 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: He looks like Barry Bonds in uh NHL goalie uniform 278 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: out there with so many pads on. He's got the 279 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: huge elbow guard. Uh. He looks like he's an injury 280 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: too away from never playing in football again. So if 281 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: Belichick were to trade him, I don't think it would 282 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: be that crazy. But here's what Belichick has done. He 283 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: lost those guys and they are I mean, I'm not 284 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: disputing that those guys weren't important. But he now has 285 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: two ones, two twos, and a third. So pick twenty three, 286 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: pick thirty one, pick forty three, pick sixty three, and 287 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: pick if of those five picks he gets three solid 288 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: starters and two rotational players. Well, again, Belichick isn't just 289 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: the GM, he's also the coach, the best coach in 290 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: league history. He can. I mean, they're gonna be right 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: back in the mix. Look at the f C. The 292 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: f C is terrible. I've talked about it before in 293 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: this show. The f C and the NFC are like 294 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: different sports. Who does Belichick have to go through beat 295 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles? Now that team is good, but again, it's 296 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and he owns the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like who's 297 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna beat Philip Rivers in a playoff game? John Gruden 298 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: has a coach in nine years, he's gonna beat Bill 299 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Belichick And come on, So he's either going to make 300 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: a crazy move and trade up to get like Josh 301 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: Rosen or something. If I was in the NFL, I'd 302 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: be terrified if that were to happen. I don't think 303 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: he quite as the juice because it's a team gonna 304 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: leave like pick you know, the Giants are gonna trade 305 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: all the way back for all those picks. I don't 306 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: know if it makes that much sense, but I just 307 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: think he ends up just taking a bunch of players 308 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: filling needs offensive tackle, running back, receiver, I mean, corner. 309 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: He can just use all those picks, just restock his team. 310 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: When's the last time Belichick at two once? Now, they're 311 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: not great ones. Pick twenty three and pick thirty one, 312 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: but those are two ones where I'll tell you who 313 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: went thirty one last year was Ruben Foster. He was 314 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: top five linebacker last year. Now, granted he went number 315 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: thirty one for a reason. He has some issues, but 316 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: he's a big time player. Pick twenty three, I mean 317 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: you can get good players in the early twenties and 318 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: then obviously the two twos he has. I mean I 319 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: picked forty three. That's the pick that he got for 320 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. He can get a starting running back right there, 321 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: a Nick Chubb, Sonny Michelle, Ronald Jones out of USC 322 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: So he can get an offensive lineman, h a wide 323 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: receiver or a corner, and then a running back. Boom. 324 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: He's got three starters before pick forty three. He's still 325 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: got Tom Brady. If he doesn't trade Gronks, still got Gronk. 326 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, he's still Bill Belichick, and they'll still win 327 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: their twelve games when the a f C East. None 328 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: of this matters, I think Belichick and I saw someone 329 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: tweet this. Maybe it was Albert Brier, maybe was Ian 330 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Rapp report that people around him have said that he 331 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: gets more joy now in the off season, where or 332 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: as much joy in the off season as the during 333 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: the regular season. And to me that makes perfect sense. 334 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: The regular season too easy for him, like he's gonna 335 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: go twelve and four or thirteen and three with his 336 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: eyes closed. I mean he kicks the ship out of 337 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: his own division. Uh, he knows. Maybe he has one 338 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: tough playoff game of the two and then just take 339 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: your chances in the Super Bowl. To me, the off 340 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: season somewhat of a challenge, like who can I fleece now? Oh? 341 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: Desperate less need let's get his first round pick. Well, 342 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: let's let's go do it. You know, every year it's something. 343 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Last year it was trading. It was trying to trade 344 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler for Brandon Cooks. He ended up trading pick 345 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: thirty two for Brandon Cooks. And he got seven touchdowns 346 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: out of Brandon Cooks and he flips on a year later. 347 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: No one's better at it than Bill Belichick. Uh, he's 348 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: He's the steroid version of Bill Walsh. No one's ever 349 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: bought lower and sold higher, consistently better and had more 350 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: power because he was also the coach than Belichick. Some 351 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: coaches are good about doing it on offense or good 352 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: about doing it on defense because that's their side of 353 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: the ball. Belichick's a master at every side of the ball. 354 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: At offense, he knows the playbook like the back of 355 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: his hand, and he's a defensive guy obviously. On defense, 356 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: his resume as a defensive mind speaks for itself. Then, 357 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: even on special teams, what happens this year? Jon Gruden 358 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: comes in, doesn't want Cordelle Patterson. Why because CP doesn't 359 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: learn the offense very well. So what does Belichick do. 360 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: I'll trade for him and I'll just use him as 361 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: a kick returner because say one thing about Patterson, he's 362 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: an elite kickoff returner. So Belichick's improved the special teams 363 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: with all these picks. His team is gonna be a 364 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: lot younger and cheaper. When you're cheaper that means you're 365 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: more flexible. You can make trades when guys become available 366 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: because you have more cap room. Instead of giving Brandon 367 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: Cooks guaranteed, you now have you know, uh, James Washington 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma State at pick thirty one, who's under a 369 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: cost control contract averaging a little over two million dollars 370 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: a year. You know, there's a big difference between playing 371 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: a guy million and paying him two million. That matters 372 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and no one understands is better. And 373 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: it's just if you like the business elements or aspects 374 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: of sports and the roster building. From an intellectual standpoint, 375 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: the way Belichick goes about his business, it's a joy 376 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: to watch. I look forward to the offseason to just 377 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: see how Belichick is gonna fleece some of his peers. 378 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: And he did it again. Let's get into Josh Rosen 379 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: and Jim Mora to Southern California guys. Obviously, Jim Moore 380 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: have been the head coach at u c l a 381 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: last six seven years and Josh Rosen, his star quarterback. 382 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: Jim Moore basically said, now, when you really dive into it, 383 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: he used the word press at all, by the word 384 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: fit but he said if he was in Cleveland Browns, 385 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: he would take Sam Dornald. And my number one takeaway was, 386 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: who says something about you matters? I a couple of 387 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: years ago, was fired in radio. I had a guy 388 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: looked me in the eye and say you're not good enough. 389 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna replace you. And you know, it's like human nature. 390 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Pretty big blow to your ego. And then nine months 391 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: later the guy that replaced me, both on the radio 392 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: and the executive were both canned. It turned out they 393 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: weren't good enough and they were the idiots. And now 394 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm working for Colin count If Warren Buffett walked into 395 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: my office right now and took a look at my 396 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: finances and said, I'm terrible with money. It might be 397 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: time for me to re evaluate some finances and how 398 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: I approach uh my life with my cash. Now, if 399 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: some business owner walked in that had been bankrupt seven 400 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: times and can't hold a job to save his life 401 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: and said the same things, I don't know if it 402 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: would hold the same weight. So if Bill Belichick gets 403 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: rid of a player and let's say he crushes Jimmy 404 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: Garoppolo on the way out and said, you know, we 405 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: traded him. We just didn't think he was gonna be 406 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: good enough. The reality is he said the opposite, but 407 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: just listen to my analogy here, and he could never 408 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: cut it here. We just didn't feel comfortable paying him. 409 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: That'd be a pretty big red flag to me. If 410 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson said the same thing, I don't know how 411 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: much wait I would put under the comments. So when 412 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: I see Jim mora uh Sunday, I guess it would 413 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: have been Monday, because Monday Morning Quarterback with Peter King. 414 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: Actually read it before I went to bed. It came 415 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: out pretty early before I went to bed on Sunday night, 416 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: and I saw the comments, and he was renting and 417 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: raven about millennials and the way Josh Rosen says I 418 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: And my simple thought was, and the people I know 419 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: in the NFL texting them a little bit this week. 420 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if Jim Morris that respected around NFL circles. 421 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: I know he's been a long time coach, both in 422 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: now in college for the last several years at U 423 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: C l A and in the NFL for a long 424 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: time before that. But I think a lot of and 425 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: I know this is the way I look at him 426 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: that if football didn't exist, a guy like Jim Mora 427 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: would be a meathead. Jim teacher. You know he's not 428 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: some dynamics smart guy. Josh Rosen is probably the second 429 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: most talented guy he had in his time at U 430 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: c l A. The other one was Miles Jack, who 431 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, had a major knee injury. Otherwise he would 432 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: have been a top two or three pick in the 433 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: draft that year. A couple of years ago, left school early. 434 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: It did not end well. And clearly with this Josh 435 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Rosen thing, they're button they've butted heads over the years, 436 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: but Josh Rosen because unlike Miles Jack, is more important 437 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: because he's the quarterback they struggled to win for three 438 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: straight years. Josh Rosen had his best statistical season this year, 439 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: but because Jim Mora, who has nothing and I repeat 440 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the offense, he couldn't tell you 441 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: an offensive play to save his life. He is a 442 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: defensive coach whose defense was statistically be on terrible this year. 443 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: They were awful. So I often hear sometimes when you 444 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: knock a quarterback, he didn't win enough. I'll tell you this. 445 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: One of the main reasons that U c l A 446 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: did not win this year. Was not Josh Rosen. Any 447 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: U c l A fan would say, you know, he 448 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: was damn good this year. It was Jim Mora and 449 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: an inept defensive scheme. I mean they were horrendous. I 450 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: don't have the staffs in front of me, but they 451 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: were of all the Power five conferences. They were near 452 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: the bottom at at run defense. They were terrible. And 453 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: this is not you know, your Washington State or Iowa 454 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: State or your Texas Tech, you know your lower end 455 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: big five power program in a conference. This is U 456 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: c l A in the hotbed of recruiting with a 457 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: star quarterback. And if anything, I look at Josh Rosen's 458 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: career and I said, you know what, he came out 459 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: and I have questions about him in terms of of availability, 460 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: can he stay healthy? But when it comes to talent 461 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: on the field, I don't have many. I've been saying 462 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: it all along. He's might number one quarterback in this draft. 463 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: And if anything, he got done a disservice in college 464 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: playing for a guy like Jim Moore. If he had 465 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: had a David Shaw, if he had had h you know, 466 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: held just Chris Peterson, a high level college coach. I 467 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: think he would have been on a team that won 468 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: ten or eleven and twelve games, competed to go to 469 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Instead, he had a coach that should never 470 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: be a coach again. Ever, I don't know how he 471 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: keeps getting these jobs, keeps failing up. Maybe because he 472 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: looks the part. He's got a famous last name. He 473 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: has a bad football coach, not an average football coach. 474 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: A bad football coach resume speaks for itself, and he's 475 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: a meet head football coach, and usually meet head football 476 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: coaches do not relate to quarterbacks. Now, I'm an older 477 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: version of a millennial. I'm on the the early side 478 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: of it. I was born in I feel like millennial 479 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: has started, you know, gaining this negative connotation whenever you 480 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: say it and listen, I'm not trying to toot millennials horns. 481 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: But the biggest knock on them always now is they're 482 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: always asking why, Well, yeah, we've grown up on the internet, 483 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: We've grown up on information. So when we see things 484 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean we're always right or we're always wrong. 485 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: We just questioned them. My parents, who were baby boomers 486 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: back when you know, there were a lot of nukes 487 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: scares in like the fifties. Uh, it was the fifties, 488 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: Like when they were in junior high or elementary school, 489 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: they would tell them to get under the desk like 490 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: that would protect them from a nuke. Millennials would ask, 491 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? What a waste of time? 492 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: And so all these negative knocks on rosen Or. If 493 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: one of the knocks was you know what he just 494 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't put in the time in the playbook, I'd go, well, 495 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: that's a freaking big red flag. But if his knock was, 496 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, we tell them to run all goes specials 497 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: and he'd say, coach, why the hell are we doing 498 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: that on second and four? That's not a knock. That's 499 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: Jim Jim Moore Jr. Meathead pe teacher, who I don't 500 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: know how keeps getting these jobs, who's being paid fifteen 501 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: million dollars to not work? Who is your classic coach? 502 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: That is just not very friendly to the media. I'm 503 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: gonna say that in a politically correct way, just just 504 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: kind of an ass to the media when he's the coach. 505 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: Yet then every time he gets fired, he immediately transitions 506 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: to the media and puts on this smile. In my book, 507 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: I like to call that a fraud and him knocking 508 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. I know this just from a pure talent standpoint. 509 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: The two of them, one as a coach, one as 510 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: a player, They're not even in the same universe. Does 511 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen have red flags? Sure, he couldn't stay healthy. 512 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: To me is my biggest red flag. Him asking why 513 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: and questioning stuff I don't have a problem with. So 514 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: when if Josh Rosen had just played for Nick Saban 515 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: or David h Chris Peterson and he was saying this stuff, 516 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: I'd have some problems with it. But I'll be honest, 517 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: this reflects poorly on Jim Mora, not necessarily Josh Rosen 518 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: when I when I see comments like this because as 519 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: my friends in the NFL communities, as me personally, I 520 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: don't put much stuck in what Jim Morris says. And 521 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't realize this, But 522 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: in NFL draft meetings all over they're going on right 523 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: now that will go on for the next several weeks, 524 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of putting their board together, getting ready for the draft. 525 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: One topic of conversation whenever you're talking about a player 526 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: is who's coaching him? Does the guy know what he's doing, 527 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: who's the position coach, who's his head coach? Is he 528 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: getting proper coaching? Is he in an environment that we respect? 529 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: And a lot of times in these draft meetings, and 530 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: again I've sat in a bunch of them, the answers 531 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: often know. And it's not just that you know small schools, 532 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: it's at the big ones. I mean it could be 533 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: USC or s U. Like, do you put much stock 534 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: into a guy right now that's playing wide receiver and 535 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: you know has forty catches or thirty catches or something 536 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: like that at L s U when Ed Ocean's head coach, 537 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: if you think he's a big time talent, No, you don't. 538 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: If anything, you you have zero respect for for the 539 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: program and what they're doing offensively. And I think a 540 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: lot of people around the league just look at it 541 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: like we view Jim Mora as the questionable character. Not 542 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: necessarily Josh Rosen. Let's end on this. This is a 543 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: big week for Cleveland. Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Baker, Mayfield, 544 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I think maybe one of them might be 545 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: going either this weekend or early next week. But over 546 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: these next seven days, are visiting the facility. And in 547 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: the NFL when I worked in Philly, and I think 548 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: every team calls it this. It's called top thirty and 549 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: you get thirty visits that you can use on a prospect. 550 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: That means you fly him in, you get twenty four hours, 551 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: have him in the facility, meet with your coaches, take 552 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: them to dinner, do whatever the hell you want with them. 553 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: It's not usually a physical workout, though you know they're not. 554 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: You're not taking them to the to the bubble if 555 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: you live in a cold area, if you live in 556 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: the Bay Area, taking them out to your practice facility. 557 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: It's it's more just spending time with them, getting to 558 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: know them intellectually. Uh, it's like a job interview. I mean, 559 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: it's what it is. You've evaluated the tape, you've seen 560 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: the numbers at the combine, you maybe even talked to 561 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: him at the combine. But you're bringing them out. And 562 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: if you're the Browns, and it's by far these four 563 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: are your most important for a lot of teams. If 564 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: you're drafting in the teams or the twenties, you're bringing 565 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: out a group of guys that you think might be 566 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: there and you can even use it as smoke screens. 567 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: You can bring guys because every team in the league 568 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: is monitoring this stuff. But one thing we used to 569 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: do in Philly is a lot of times bring guys. 570 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: A lot of teams do this. I mean, I would say, 571 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: imagine every team does this. Bring guys that you might 572 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: not get in the first round, like second, third, fourth 573 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: round picks that you have some character or off the 574 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: field questions on or even medical questions to get them 575 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: in the facility. But you've done all this work all fall. 576 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: You've evaluated the tape, You've talked to their coaches, You've 577 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: your scouts, have done detective work on meeting with teachers, 578 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: the high school coaches, do you name it. You've accumulated 579 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: all this information. And anyone that owns a business, or 580 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: if you if you work in a business. Hell, when 581 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: I was working with the Eagles or when I worked 582 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: for Fresno State, sometimes you would be the first line 583 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: of defense on an interview. You would help interview a guy, 584 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: you take him to lunch, and people look a lot 585 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: different on paper, uh even on tape than when you 586 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: actually meet him in person. Right it happens. I would 587 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: imagine to a lot of hires all over America. Guy 588 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: looks incredible on paper, even some of the work he's done, 589 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: and then you meet him and you go, I'm not 590 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: really feeling that. It's really no different football now. Obviously 591 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: in football, like in a lot of private sector jobs, 592 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: if what you do, whether you're the top sales guy, 593 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: whether you're the top quarterback, you know your tape or 594 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: or your you know your your balance sheet speaks for itself. 595 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: But if you're very turned off by an individual in person, 596 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: once you're spending time with someone, that can have a 597 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: lot of influence and impact on whether you hire that guy, 598 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: whether you draft that guy. So you see reports that 599 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: Sam Donald was the guy now starting to look like 600 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I would say Josh Rosen if because his 601 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: tape is better in both those two guys, that if 602 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: he were to hit it off with these guys this week, 603 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: whenever he's there for his twenty four hour visits, spending 604 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: time with Hugh Jackson, especially John Dorsey and Jimmy Haslum 605 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: that anyone that has ever interviewed anyone knows that when 606 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: you sit down with him and spend time, you just 607 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: feel differently, positively or negatively about people. Sometimes you don't 608 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: know exactly why. It's just human nature. So these this 609 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: week in Brea, Ohio is a very big week for 610 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns because while they may have some idea 611 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: who they want to draft, these twenty four hours of 612 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: spending it with the guys and asking them the questions 613 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: they've been waiting to ask them, whether it's on or 614 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: off the field, getting a little bit better feel of 615 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: their football intelligence is gonna go a long way to 616 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: who they're gonna pick. I mean, I would imagine that 617 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: all four of these quarterbacks, I'd be I don't really 618 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: include Baker in this list because I'd be a little 619 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: floored if he went number one, But they'd have to 620 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: do their due diligence to bring them. And I'm not discounting, uh, 621 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: the fact and the opportunity that Baker would have of 622 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: just blowing John Dorsey away. I mean, what if Baker 623 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: just goes there and Elliott Wolf and Alonso Highsmith, some 624 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: of the guys that some of the executives that he's 625 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: brought from Green Bay. What if they just go, God, 626 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: we gotta have this. There's something special. You know. What 627 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: what if what if Baker leaves that room, and it's 628 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: just light years better in their minds than the other 629 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: three guys. And you've seen it before in interview situations 630 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: that once you get your opportunity to meet face to face, 631 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: It's why they always tell you, you you know, you always 632 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: try to get a face to face meeting because it's 633 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: easy to you know, delete an email or hang up 634 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: on a phone call. But if I get a face 635 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: to face and you're confident in your abilities and your 636 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: ability to sell yourself and your genuine uh, you can 637 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: influence people. And all the four of these guys are 638 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: somewhat salesman of trying to prove that they're worthy of 639 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: the number one pick. And John Dorsey and Alonzo hi 640 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: Smith and Elliott Wolfe have spent a lot of time 641 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 1: in Green Bay, been around a lot of players, so 642 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: they have a pretty good idea of what it looks like, 643 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: especially with quarterbacks. Been around Brett then obviously, been around 644 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers for the last ten plus years. They know 645 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: exactly what and they know what it doesn't look like now. Granted, 646 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: Brett Hunley was a later round pick, but at one 647 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: point in time, it looked like Bret Henley was gonna 648 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: be a first round pick, and then a senior year 649 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: or I guess it was junior year happened and it 650 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: was pretty ugly. But my ultimate point is that anytime 651 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: you get a face to face with someone, whether it 652 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: be football or whether it be another you know, asked 653 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: bicks of life, you can have a huge impact. You 654 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: can change someone's mind. So I would imagine whenever that 655 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: number one pick happens and they give the press conference 656 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: the next day, that they'll mention whether it's John Dorsey, 657 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: whether it's Hugh Jackson, whether it's Jimmy Haslum, how whether 658 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: it's whatever quarterback they end up taking at number one, 659 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: that I knew when I left that facility that we 660 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: were in a very good place. Maybe the quarterback says, 661 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: maybe John Dorsey goes, I knew a dinner, we had 662 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: something special. I really think. And it's crazy because it's 663 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: only twenty four hours and you're gonna hopefully have one 664 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: of these guys for the next ten plus years. But 665 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: these twenty four hours, one of these guys in his trip, 666 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: we'll go a go a long way to being the 667 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: major reason that they're the next quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. Well, 668 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap that bad boy up three and out. 669 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: John Mittelecoff on the Colin Coward Podcast Network. I appreciate 670 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: everyone listening. Go to iTunes, subscribe, rate, and in the 671 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: review section leave a question. Uh. We talked about Patrick 672 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: Mahomes to start this podcast. I think it's gonna be 673 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: a follower. I think nine touchdowns, four team picks. Leave 674 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: any question, college or throw, and we will get to 675 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: him throughout the show. I appreciate everyone listening, keeps subscribing 676 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: to the show, keep listening, and I'll see you next 677 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: m