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Speaker 1: So we got Mark Medina coming up Lakers and Clippers

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Speaker 1: Insider in a few minutes, and nobody better to talk

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Speaker 1: to tonight than the night that James Harden got traded

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Speaker 1: away from the Clippers and Lebron James, for better or

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Speaker 1: for worse, is going to stay a Laker through the

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Speaker 1: deadline and through the end of the regular season. But

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Speaker 1: two really fun stories out of the NFL today. One

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Speaker 1: is going to really shock you, Mike Carmon, It's gonna actually.

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Speaker 3: Gonna shock me. I don't shock easy.

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Speaker 1: Will we'll we'll we'll lead up to that.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The first one, man and I have to ask after

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Speaker 1: hearing this story, who has biffed their quarterback situation worse?

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Speaker 1: One the Atlanta Falcons new team president Matt Ryan, who

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Speaker 1: is still the best quarterback on the roster.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We're asked today about Michael Pennix junior and will he

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Speaker 1: be the quarterback when health Remember he got hurt middle

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Speaker 1: of this year. He may not be healthy for the

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Speaker 1: beginning of next year. He was asked today, Hey, when

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, obviously, Michael Pennick, says, your guy, right, Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan said, ah, the words elite course, So not so fast,

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Speaker 1: my friend, either of.

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Speaker 6: Us at the head coach the football team. So we

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Speaker 6: can't answer your question on that, but you know, I

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Speaker 6: think all of us are going to get together. As

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Speaker 6: Ian's been a part of it for I guess three days, yeah,

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Speaker 6: three days, and has had a lot on his plate

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Speaker 6: during that time. I think, you know, as we start

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Speaker 6: to get into this process and dive deeper into the roster,

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Speaker 6: how it currently stands, where it's you know, going in

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Speaker 6: the future, I think those are conversations that'll be a

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Speaker 6: part of it. Quarterbacks obviously very important, and we're you know,

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Speaker 6: excited about Mike and what he's doing with his rehab.

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Speaker 6: I've been up at the facility the last you know,

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Speaker 6: three weeks, and Michael's been in there attacking that and

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Speaker 6: he's in a good space right now. So we're excited

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Speaker 6: about where he's at. But certainly a lot of discussions

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Speaker 6: for us about the entire roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows what he's saying. Bye Michael Bennix Junior.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Really, you think about how badly Atlanta has biffed their

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Speaker 1: possible not giving Kirk Cousins that money, not drafting Michael

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Speaker 1: Pennick Junior, but giving Kirk Cousins one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed and then drafting Michael Pennick Junior was

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Speaker 1: an awful decision. Right, you could do one either one,

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Speaker 1: but you do both. That's just stupid. It's absolutely stupid,

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Speaker 1: but they did. And now they're at the point where

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Speaker 1: we say we're head of the curve. The Falcons may

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Speaker 1: have no quarterbacks because Kirk Cousins is likely gonna get

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go someplace else. Michael Pennick Junior right now,

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Speaker 1: he's not flashed and he can't stay healthy. And here's

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Speaker 1: all of five minutes, and he can't say, oh, of

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Speaker 1: course Mike's our guy. There's nobody else on the roster.

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Speaker 1: Of course Mike's the guy. There's nobody else there. He

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Speaker 1: So now they have no quarterback. They absolutely have no quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So I ask you this, Mike carbon who has biffed

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Speaker 1: of course knew they had a great quarterback in Sam

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Speaker 3: Can it be a tie?

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Speaker 7: No? Uh, look, some of it is the old dark

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Speaker 3: I at least could understand to a.

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Speaker 7: Degree what Atlanta did right Cousins, who was coming off

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Speaker 7: when he needs to, or he gets the red shirt

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Speaker 7: a full year. Instead, everything goes to hell with Cousins.

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Speaker 7: He's pressed into service Penix, that is, and he isn't

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Speaker 7: very good. And now you've got the severe injury from

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Speaker 3: Again, what's that? Not good?

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Speaker 7: But I can understand it, right, harkening back to when

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Speaker 3: But with Minnesota they.

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Speaker 7: At least pushed in and said, well, we really like

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Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy, or at least some of the organization did.

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Speaker 7: And we find out that it was a big sticking

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Speaker 7: point contentiousness. Spider Man memes all of those kind of things.

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Speaker 7: Spider Man between a Doophamnza and Kevin O'Connell as to

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Speaker 7: how they thought they should proceed and where the truth lies. Well,

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Speaker 7: only history may may unveil it if we get access

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Speaker 7: to some you know, encrypted data. But Sam Darnold also

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Speaker 7: became a bit of a fall guy, and if he

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Speaker 3: And now everybody looks that.

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Speaker 7: Much worse, or or Kevin o'connan goes to a pony goes, see,

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Speaker 7: I told.

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Speaker 1: You look as bad as it is for Atlanta, because

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Speaker 1: I agree with you it is way. This tells you

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Speaker 1: just how bad of a decision that was kicking out

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Speaker 1: when you knew the answer, right, Like, okay, if you're

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Speaker 1: the Falcons, you didn't know that Kirk Cousins is gonna

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Speaker 1: You didn't know Kirk Cousins is gonna be bad. You

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Speaker 1: didn't know Michael Pennix junior. You were hoping he was

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Speaker 1: gonna stay healthy, but clearly he was a guy that

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Speaker 1: So I can see that where Okay, well, we thought

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Speaker 1: in the end, you can just say, if you're the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: hey we thought we had everything with Kirk Cousins, but

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Speaker 1: you don't know un till you see a guy in

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Speaker 1: the field. We didn't know he wasn't going to be

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Speaker 1: any good. We didn't know Michael Pennix Junior was not

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Speaker 1: going to be on the field and not going to

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Speaker 1: be good when he played. But the Vikings knew how

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Speaker 1: good Sam Dartle was and they still said, nah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we don't want any of that man, No, no, we

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Speaker 1: want unproven stuff like that I mean that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know a team has screwed up a quarterback

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Speaker 1: decision that bad in the history of the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that things have been that bad that a

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Speaker 1: guy that was a Pro Bowl top five quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the next year he goes to the Super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: an even better season with a different team. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know anybody has made that bad a quarterback decision ever.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know my general feeling when it comes to

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Speaker 7: you couldn't keep him around because this guy would be

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Speaker 7: in his head and in his fields. If he's in

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Speaker 7: his head and in his fields, he's not your guy

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Speaker 7: that is not going to be your leader for the

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Speaker 7: next decade. If he's looking over there and trying to

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Speaker 7: taking his job. I need the guy that says, fine,

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Speaker 7: bring him back and I'll beat his ass in training camp.

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Speaker 7: But if you decided you couldn't bring Sam back either

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Speaker 7: we can say it was completely on him. Those two

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Speaker 7: games at the end of the year, which is conveniently

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Speaker 7: what has happened in our collective media and Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 7: and the brass and the lack of a run game

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Speaker 7: and everything else that felled them last season at the

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Speaker 7: end of things conveniently forgotten because it was all Sam's fault.

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Speaker 3: Once a jet, always a jet, had to be his fault,

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Speaker 7: And then he goes here and look, twenty five versus

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Speaker 7: fourteen touchdown interceptions not something to write home about. But

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Speaker 7: he had a couple of outlier games, certainly against the Rams,

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Speaker 7: but they still finished two and one against them, now,

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Speaker 7: didn't they when it's all said and done. But it's

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Speaker 7: the the dollar cost averaging. We made all the arguments

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Speaker 3: It's like, you don't know what you had in JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 7: You were wishing and hoping that he was going to

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Speaker 7: even coming out of your Michigan household, as you term it,

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Speaker 7: having watched every snap that you didn't buy it. Okay,

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Speaker 7: But even if you were trying to put the blinders

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Speaker 7: on in those Minnesota meeting rooms that you were convincing

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Speaker 7: yourself here that he was going to be the guy. Well,

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Speaker 7: you didn't have proof of concept yet, and you had

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Speaker 7: a guy coming off a big injury, and Sam's sitting

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Speaker 7: there smiling at you with his red beard, and instead

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Speaker 7: you said, na, no, no, we'll go the other way.

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Speaker 7: He signs his deal, which was pretty friendly with Seattle.

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Speaker 7: When it's all said, done that three year, one hundred

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Speaker 7: million dollars, we all, you know, bark about a one

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Speaker 7: hundred million dollars, thirty million dollars for a quarterback who

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Speaker 7: just had the year he had Minnesota nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, worst quarterback to city. Just look continuing to bring

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Speaker 1: that up, worst quarterback to s of all.

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Speaker 7: And now you're both standing and staring at each other.

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Speaker 7: Where do we go from here? Panix is on his

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Speaker 7: third major leg injury. John Robinson's talking up Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 7: that's the guy.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait, can't wait.

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Speaker 7: Sure, Let's let's see how that guy's going to touch

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Speaker 7: the ball nine hundred times this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. That's that's gonna be a lot,

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Speaker 7: Which is good that Arthur Smith didn't use him like

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Speaker 1: If you haven't been fantasy, this is the year to

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Speaker 1: use him if you don't have it. But next year

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Speaker 2: This time kidn't counts.

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Speaker 1: And TJ clearly the love spreads for James Harden in

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Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, it's too early. It's not ten o'clock here yet.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's love spreads. So two big moves in the

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Speaker 1: NBA tonight, huge bone won a trade, won a team,

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Speaker 1: perspective on both of these stories. LA Basketball insider Aflon

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Speaker 1: He covers the Lakers and the Clippers. He is longtime

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Speaker 1: friend of the show who has been undermining JJ Reddick

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Speaker 1: at every turn the last year and a half. It

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Speaker 1: is Mark Medina, Mark. What's happening?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 5: Jason? I'm doing well now, Jason? Come clean? Here are

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Speaker 5: you in pins and needles? This trade deadline on where

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Speaker 5: Ger showing you Bisselli is gonna kind up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trading you Bisselli for Yannis. You didn't know

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a fair deal for both sides. If I'm

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's it. Forget about Oh, come on, you

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Speaker 7: Actually, how much would you want Jimmy Butler or Draymond.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's start with the James harden trade.

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Speaker 5: and that's it. It's really about next season to try

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Speaker 5: to see can they load some younger talent around Kawhi

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Speaker 5: Leonard so that he actually has a fighting chance to

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Speaker 5: win a championship, because ever since he joined the Clippers,

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Speaker 5: it's always been one thing after another of this crazy

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Speaker 5: combination of his own injuries, another teammates injuries, or just

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Speaker 5: underachieving performances all around that have resulted in exactly one

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Speaker 5: Western Conference Finals appearance in a bunch of early playoff exits.

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Speaker 7: Beyond that, NBA insider Mark Madina our guest here Fox

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Speaker 7: Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Carman. You

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Speaker 7: find them on Twitter at mar gi Underscore Medina. I

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Speaker 7: see all the CVC all of his latest clips up

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Speaker 7: there as.

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Speaker 3: Well, interviews including Q and A.

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Speaker 7: You got a little bit with Lebron James who reportedly

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Speaker 7: you look he's going to finish the season with the

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Speaker 7: Lakers and everybody moves on. Realistically, was there a market

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Speaker 7: for him at all other than wave your no trade

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Speaker 7: and go to a bottom feeder to finish out the

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Speaker 7: year so they could sell tickets.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you hit it on the head. There's not really

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Speaker 5: a market because he makes fifty two million dollars a year,

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Speaker 5: even though every team went for Lebron James, even at

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Speaker 5: his stage of his career with how you know, respectable.

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Speaker 5: He's flying twenty two points seven. It's not much defense,

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Speaker 5: but you know he's a team player. It's not worth

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Speaker 5: giving up so much for that, especially knowing that this

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Speaker 5: could be his last year. So yeah, he wasn't going anywhere,

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Speaker 5: even though you know clearly the writing on the wall

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Speaker 5: with the Lakers and Lebron is that after this season

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Speaker 5: they're going to part ways. This has always been a

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Speaker 5: transactional relationship for better and for worker. So the next

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Speaker 5: transaction is, don't make a transaction, because a better play

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Speaker 5: for the Lakers is to try to see what kind

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Speaker 5: of chemistry he can have with Luca Doctic and Austin

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Speaker 5: Reeves now that he's back, and then have a clean

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Speaker 5: break this upcoming summer. Same thing with Lebron, he can

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Speaker 5: make the most of what he has. Playing with Lucas

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Speaker 5: shows that he's a team guy and taking a back seat.

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Speaker 5: And then see whether it's Cleveland or Golden State or

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Speaker 5: you know, team number three that's willing to take him

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Speaker 5: on a relative discount with one shot, one more shot

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Speaker 5: to win a championship. My money is on Cleveland, and

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Speaker 5: that'll be an interesting combination with Donovan, Mitchell, James Harden,

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Speaker 5: and Lebron. But I don't think anyone, including Lebron, really

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Speaker 5: knows at this point other than it's not going to

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Speaker 5: be with the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: You know. The thing is, though, looking at this trade

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Speaker 1: deadline now and you know the Lakers obviously, or Lebron

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Speaker 1: getting ahead of the oh hey, I'm going to stay

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Speaker 1: here for the rest of the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: Was there any real activity, Was there any real potential

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Speaker 1: there teams were sniffing around, going, hey, maybe we can

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Speaker 1: make something happen for Lebron or is that just a

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Speaker 1: pipe dream?

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Speaker 5: Just a pipe dream? I mean, I think that every

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Speaker 5: team has conversations just to see what the other team says.

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Speaker 5: But when you're looking at Lebron on it means that

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Speaker 5: you have to give up fifty two million dollars in assets,

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Speaker 5: and you know, again, this isn't any knock on Lebron.

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Speaker 5: He's not the same player as he was in his

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Speaker 5: prime of his career. But I think he's still deserving

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Speaker 5: of an All Star candidacy as a reserve. But you're

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Speaker 5: having to give up so many rotational pieces potential draft picks.

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Speaker 5: It's not really worth it to have him at this

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Speaker 5: stage of his career just play for the second half

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Speaker 5: of the season without assurances on what that means for

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Speaker 5: the next season. And you know, even the other thing

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Speaker 5: is teams might not even want to be on next

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Speaker 5: season because of the number that he's making that he

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Speaker 5: hopes to make from a salary standpoint. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think the conversations that the Lakers have had is

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Speaker 5: about what they can do to upgrade their wing depth

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Speaker 5: and maybe their center spot. But a lot of players

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Speaker 5: have already been left off the board with Keon Ellis

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Speaker 5: and DeAndre Hunter, and I don't see Trey Murphy the

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Speaker 5: third going anywhere from New Orleans, SA with Herb Jones,

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Speaker 5: And when you add all this stuff up, you know,

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Speaker 5: Najie Marshall and Daniel Gaffer from Dallas. They're not dealing

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Speaker 5: with the Lakers again after this Luka Docicch trade backfired

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Speaker 5: on them. You add all that up, there's really no

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Speaker 5: other players available for the Lakers to make even marginal upgrades.

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Speaker 5: So I want to be surprised that you know they'll

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Speaker 5: walk away with nothing after Thursday's deadline passes.

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Speaker 7: Anything else that you're hearing in the offing, I mean,

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Speaker 7: they can't even get rid of Dalton Connect.

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Speaker 3: That's too bad, Mark Williams.

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Speaker 5: Believe me, they have tried. They have tried, but you

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Speaker 5: know what has often ended is a Dulton connect brick

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Speaker 5: three point shot.

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Speaker 3: Nicely done.

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Speaker 7: Any other big names that might be in the moves,

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Speaker 7: I know my bulls are getting rid of everybody.

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Speaker 3: But anything else you're hearing on the winds, Yeah, two names.

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Speaker 5: I mean Job Moran, he's out with Memphis. I mean,

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Speaker 5: with this deal with Jared Jackson Junior going to the

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Speaker 5: Utah Jazz, it's clear that the Memphis are just about

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Speaker 5: tearing this down and collecting assets. I don't know where

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Speaker 5: he's gone and how much he's going to get in return,

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Speaker 5: but I think clearly the right on the wall is

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Speaker 5: that the Grizzlies don't care as much about that other

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Speaker 5: than to try to hit the reset button. So he's

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Speaker 5: going to be dealt before Thursday. The other obviously big

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Speaker 5: name we have to pay attuch to is with the

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Speaker 5: Anasonse Decompo. If he is going to get traded, I

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Speaker 5: think it will be with the Warriors. But I don't

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Speaker 5: think that he's going to get traded because even though

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Speaker 5: the Warriors are making everyone with exceptional Steph Curry available,

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Speaker 5: I think the Bucks are of the mind of if

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Speaker 5: I'm going to trade my franchise player, I have to

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Speaker 5: get a haul in return, and there's a value in

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Speaker 5: waiting until this summer, you know, for them to see

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Speaker 5: potentially more offers, more competition, and more time. So I

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Speaker 5: think that Giannis stays put in Milwaukee. But that thing

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Speaker 5: can always be flawed, because that's a real game changer.

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Speaker 1: Now, wait, let's go back to John Moran here, because

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Speaker 1: you know, the last couple of weeks, it's like, boy,

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Speaker 1: there's no market for the guy, because who's going to

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Speaker 1: give up anything. You're saying, they'll just take back bare

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Speaker 1: minimum just to just to get rid of them from

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Speaker 1: the roster. Like that's the kind of deal you see happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, look, don't get your hopes up that

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Speaker 5: job Moran's going to be playing with Jalen Brunson with

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Speaker 5: the New York Necks just by trading Gershan Yabuselli. What

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Speaker 5: I'm saying with the Grizzlies is with them trading Jared

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Speaker 5: Jackson Jr. Just now to the Utah Jazz. You know

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Speaker 5: they part of ways with desbon Vane last summer. I

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Speaker 5: think that Jackson Junior deal signified they're in reset mode

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Speaker 5: and it's no longer about getting this huge haul for Jaw.

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Speaker 5: It's about getting best option available. But I think best

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Speaker 5: option available will still be more than what Kershawn's worth.

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Speaker 5: So he's not going in the next but he might

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Speaker 5: get pennies on the dollar elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: We've won seven in a row. We fixed all the

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Speaker 1: defensive issues.

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Speaker 5: It's fine, two All Stars, two players in the All

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Speaker 5: Star Game. The Santonio Spurs couldn't even get that.

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Speaker 1: Now, look, Mark, all we had to do was we

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Speaker 1: learned a lesson that every other team has learned. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to repeat his champions they're trying to repeat from

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Speaker 1: November with the Ist. They you get a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a downtick in January, and I just got to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to get past the dog days of

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Speaker 1: that we have.

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Speaker 3: Now you used that with Mark last week. He didn't

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Speaker 3: buy that thing is fine.

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Speaker 1: Everything is fine.

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Speaker 5: I remember Jason saying that last week, but I don't

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Speaker 5: think he really believed it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I think he believes that he's going all in go

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Speaker 5: New York.

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Speaker 1: And New York. He's on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina.

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Speaker 1: That's at Mark g Underscore Medina. Mark has always appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time with us, my friend. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy the deadline, Jason, Mark goalways good talking and Jason

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Speaker 5: continue to enjoy the uh the end season tournament championship.

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Speaker 1: There, I got it.

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Speaker 7: You know it's you can enjoy the last appearance Mark

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Speaker 7: Medina on this program.

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Speaker 1: Hi, st Champion. You know the thing he called me Mark?

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Speaker 1: Did you miss that? He said his own name, he said.

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Speaker 1: I think he said his own I don't think he

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Speaker 1: called you Mark. I think he said his own name

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Speaker 1: because I said Mark and he said Jason Mark. Though

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Speaker 1: that's what he said. I think he just said his

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Speaker 1: own name.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to check the videotape, all right, or.

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Speaker 1: The audio tape because it's radio. But I got what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. That's what I got.

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Speaker 3: Three cameras staring at you. I mean they're not on.

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Speaker 1: I think he just I think these cameras aren't on.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I think he just uh. I think he

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Speaker 1: just said his own name by by that instead of

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Speaker 1: saying because I said Mark, Mark, thanks a lot, Jason Mark.

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Speaker 1: Like I think he just because I said Mark, he

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Speaker 1: said Mark. He's going third person. He's like Terry Crews

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn nine nine. Terry doesn't like that. Terry thinks

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Speaker 1: we should go over here. Terry's not happy. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. Time now to find out

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Speaker 1: what's trending in the wide role of sportsman guy who's

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Speaker 1: been called the Terry Crews of Fox Sports Radio. He

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Speaker 1: often refers to himself in the third person as well.

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Speaker 1: It's Steve Disager.

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Speaker 8: I'm convinced we're not on the air. By the way,

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Speaker 8: the NBA trade deadline is Thursday. The Clippers are dealing

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Speaker 8: James Harden to Cleveland for Darius Garland. The Cavs play

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Speaker 8: at the Slippers on Wednesday night. Memphis traded Jaron Jackson

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Speaker 8: to Utah as part of an eight player deal. Grizzlies

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Speaker 8: get three first round draft choices. The Celtics acquired Nikolovucevich

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Speaker 8: from the Bulls for Anthony Simons. Both players have expiring contracts.

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Speaker 8: Detroit picked up Kevin Herder from Chicago in a three

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Speaker 8: team trade. The Bulls got Jaden Ivy and for now

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Speaker 8: Mike Conley. All are in the final year of their deals.

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Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard was added to the NBA All Star roster.

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Speaker 8: No Clippers had been selected. The game is at their

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Speaker 8: arena in less than two weeks. Kawhi is on a

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Speaker 8: US team with Lebron James, Steph Curry, Jalen Brunson, Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 8: Kevin Durant, and Donovan Mitchell. There's a new All Star

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Speaker 8: game format, two teams of US players, one team of

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Speaker 8: internationals in a round robin tournament. The All Star reserves

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Speaker 8: this past week had been selected by the league's head coaches.

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Speaker 8: The rosters came out tonight. There is one late game

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Speaker 8: in the NBA mid third quarter at Portland. The Blazers,

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Speaker 8: who've lost five in a row, lead eighty to seventy

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Speaker 8: nine over feet. Philadelphia won easily at Golden State one

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Speaker 8: thirteen to ninety four. Joel Embiid and Steph Curry set

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Speaker 8: that one out. Oklahoma City won twenty eight to ninety

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Speaker 8: two over Orlando. Shay Gilgess Alexander twenty points for the thunder.

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Speaker 8: He'd been questionable with the spring finger. At Milwaukee, end

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Speaker 8: of a five game losing streak, the Bucks beat Chicago

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Speaker 8: one thirty one to one fifteen. Kyle Kuzma thirty one

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Speaker 8: points his Bucks from three point range twenty three for

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Speaker 8: thirty eight. Tonight at Dallas, Cooper Flag of the MAVs

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Speaker 8: thirty six points, buts the Mavericks have lost five in

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Speaker 8: a row. Boston Beaham won ten to one hundred. Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 8: the player of the month in the East, had thirty

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Speaker 8: three points. Luca Donzich, of the Lakers, player of the

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Speaker 8: month in the West, he had twenty four points. Lebron

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Speaker 8: James twenty five. Is LA won at Brooklyn, won twenty

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Speaker 8: five one oh nine. Austin Reeves of LA fifteen points

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Speaker 8: off the bench. He'd been out since Christmas with a

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Speaker 8: calf injury. Atlanta one at Miami, New York won at

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Speaker 8: seventh straight and easy win at Washington. Utah ended a

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Speaker 8: six game losing streak winning at Indiana. Isaiah Collier of

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Speaker 8: the Jazz twenty two assists, Detroit edge Denver. In college

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Speaker 8: hoops number twenty three, Miami, Ohio is twenty three to

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Speaker 8: zero after a seventy three to seventy one victory at Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: Among the seven NHL games, Tampa Bay in overtime edge

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Speaker 8: Buffalo four to three, and it was Carolina four to

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Speaker 8: three over Ottawa. The New York Giants new offensive coordinator

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Speaker 8: is Matt Naggi for new head coach John Harbaugh. The

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Speaker 8: NFC tonight won the Pro Bowl Flag football game in

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Speaker 8: the Bay Area, sixty six fifty two offensive MVP, George

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Speaker 8: Pickens defensive MVP, and Twine Winfield Junior. The NFL's union

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Speaker 8: said players have no appetite for an eighteen game regular season.

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Speaker 8: Patriots owner Robert Kraft was reportedly not voted into the

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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame this year, same as Bill Belichick. The

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Speaker 8: Baseball Hall of Fame will induct Carlos Beltron in a

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Speaker 8: Mets cap this summer. Jeff Kent will have a San

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Speaker 8: Francisco logo, Andrew Jones a bravescat the Diamond.

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Speaker 1: Adam Wainwright will be presenting Carlos Beltran to the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame.

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Speaker 8: No, no, he won't, don't start things playoffs best. The

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Speaker 8: Diamondbacks agreed to a one year deal with first baseman

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Speaker 8: Carlos Santana.

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Speaker 9: He turns forty in April.

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Speaker 8: This will be his ninth major league team.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, Vegas, Tevo. The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 1: My best friend Mike Harmon. Coming up next, A big

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Speaker 1: story out of the NFL today, A hiring that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't like, but I absolutely love it,

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Speaker 1: and it's so near and dear to Mike Harmon's heart,

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Speaker 1: we can't even say that's next. Jason to Mike. Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: A big hiring was made today in the NFL. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to get a lot of good publicity because

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Speaker 1: it's easy to laugh at, but honestly, I like it.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, Jason. I'm happy to be there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Alex Tischer is the defensive coordinator for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 9: How do you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, if I knew you're up for it, I wrote

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Speaker 1: you let a recommendation, said they were giving it to you.

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Speaker 3: He's a wizard.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 1: It's good. Hey, how many how many men play on

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Speaker 1: the field at once on defense?

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Speaker 9: Wait?

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Speaker 1: So what how many men play on the field at

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Speaker 1: once on defense? How many? How many people?

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Speaker 9: You're saying like during the game, right, yeah, during the game.

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Speaker 4: Well, sometimes they have it smart in their mind to

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Speaker 4: think that twelve could be on there. But I keep

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Speaker 4: telling them eleven's are game one ones.

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Speaker 1: Maybe okay, good, Well, here's the thing. I think for

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Speaker 1: the Browns, you should put twelve on. Sometimes thirteen.

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Speaker 7: Well, you'd stop teams more, but that's the straight they

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Speaker 7: need that extra man on offense. Yeah well, well but

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Speaker 7: I think the offense they would that they'd find that out.

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Speaker 1: Defense probably not.

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Speaker 3: Even though they had two Pro Bowlers this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're so worried about you know,

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Speaker 1: they know guys would be free, because what we got

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Speaker 1: to put two guys on, Miles Garrett gotta put two

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Speaker 1: guys here. They know guys are going to they'll just

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Speaker 1: be more guys free, so it'll be okay. They won't

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Speaker 1: find out as easy.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna use like my soccer tactic. And you

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Speaker 4: know how you take away some strikers for more defenders.

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Speaker 4: I'll just take offense away and put more defense.

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Speaker 1: Oh see that'll work too, that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now Matt Naggy Mike Harmon's favorite former Bears head coach, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: has a new gig. He is the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: offensive cored.

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Speaker 7: He was taken to the playoffs twice by Mitchell Trubisky.

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Speaker 7: M h and yeah it works both ways.

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Speaker 1: Oh see with the Chiefs before he was not retained.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, but now he gets the Giants gig.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people hate this, but I

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Speaker 1: like this because sometimes the safe choice is the right

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Speaker 1: one in anything, whether it's relationships, career decisions, Sometimes the

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Speaker 1: safe choice is the right choice.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, I could have been with this

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Speaker 1: person and we could have had a great life and

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Speaker 1: got married, had kids. But I took a chance with

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Speaker 1: with someone else, and boy, it turned out to not

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Speaker 1: work out. And I've up being in therapy and it's

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Speaker 1: awful and I can't get past it. Now they keep

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Speaker 1: calling my house all the time. No, Sometimes safe as okay, ah,

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Speaker 1: you know I went for the brass ring with this job.

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Speaker 1: I had this great job, I was making money, I

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Speaker 1: was doing okay, but I got fed this bill of

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Speaker 1: goods and I left for was gonna be this great,

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Speaker 1: big salary in the company went bankrupt in six months.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a job. Sometimes the safe choice is

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Speaker 1: the right one. And when you are building an offense

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Speaker 1: from scratch, and John Harbon knows what he's doing here,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to take chances with Jackson Dart, Molik Neighbors,

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Speaker 1: Cam Scattaboo, Tracy Theo Johnson, you don't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson. You need to come in and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're learning as an offense together. We're all young yet

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Speaker 1: a little bit of time. Last year Jackson Dart flashed,

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Speaker 1: Cam Scattaboo flashed, you know when to come with some

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Speaker 1: kind of crazy system where, oh, I know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do this. These guys need to continue to learn the

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Speaker 1: NFL from the ground up basis. They didn't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of time together last year. And I know that's

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen this year. It's not gonna be saying

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Speaker 1: we're gonna Try to do this with Jackson Dark because

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Speaker 1: I think he can do it. Try to do this

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Speaker 1: with Cam Skataboo because I think he can do it.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? The guy needs more reps in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They need to learn how to be pros

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Speaker 1: from the ground up. Rights everything is new for them.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a safe choice is the right one because I

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Speaker 1: have no doubt that this offensive system. Yeah, is it

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Speaker 1: gonna have big time bells and whistles off to off

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Speaker 1: the jump, No it's not. But you're not trying to

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Speaker 1: win the super Bowl this year. You are trying to.

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Speaker 1: We are setting the foundation for what's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good five to seven year run, maybe even more if

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is really good, where we can be big time,

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Speaker 1: deep playoff and super Bowl caliber teams. And you need

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Speaker 1: to start somewhere. So that's why I kind of like

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Speaker 1: Matt Naggy because I know it's not gonna be incredible,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be flashy, but it's gonna be functional,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look good, and the player's natural talent is

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Speaker 1: going to take over. I think for this moment in time,

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Speaker 1: for this Giants offense, this is the right call.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's one of those situations head coach

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Speaker 7: versus coordinator, and unfortunately you hit a point in Kansas

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Speaker 7: City one. You add the big injury obviously with Mahomes

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Speaker 7: being taken up, but even the last couple of years,

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Speaker 7: you haven't had that same level of consistency, and offensive

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Speaker 7: line is taking a step back. There's myriad reasons for

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Speaker 7: what went wrong in Chiefsdom, not to mention chiefs Ahulic

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Speaker 7: and his own escapatees, but Matt Naggy becomes not necessarily

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Speaker 7: a fall guy because they fixed the glitch. The contract

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Speaker 7: was up and lo and behold, Eric b Enemy had

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Speaker 7: an opportunity to come back home. Guess what, You're gonna

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Speaker 7: go back and try to relive those glory years if

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Speaker 7: you can. A guy that lights the fire under people's

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Speaker 7: ass Mahomes comes back. You still need to make a

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Speaker 7: bunch of pretty big roster changes there. But for Matt Naggy,

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Speaker 7: we've seen it go back to when Trubisky got them

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Speaker 7: to the playoffs. A couple of times he completed two

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Speaker 7: thirds of his past attempts two to one touchdown to

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Speaker 7: interception ratio.

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Speaker 3: It's not flashy.

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Speaker 7: The big thing is get the ball out, Get it

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Speaker 7: into playmaker's hands and keep your ass out of the

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Speaker 7: blue tent.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 7: That's what Matt Naggy is charged to do because the

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Speaker 7: rest of it will fall into place. As you watched

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Speaker 7: for so many years in Baltimore. For Naggy, it's you know,

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Speaker 7: you go back to where your best strength is with

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Speaker 7: a coach that is going to want to run the

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Speaker 7: football and get back to basics.

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Speaker 1: Safe choice could be the right not always, but this situation,

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Speaker 1: this moment in time, safe choice, right choice. With the Giants,

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Speaker 1: everything they've done so far this offseason has them on

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Speaker 1: the upswing. They're gonna be a problem in the NFL

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Speaker 1: for the next five to seven years. Exit out about

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Speaker 1: a Fresca Exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith Mike Carmon Live

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We got more NFL

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Speaker 1: on the way, including the one NFL player that everybody

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Speaker 1: needs to apologize to. But coming up next, we get

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Speaker 1: back into the biggest NBA stories of the night, a

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Speaker 1: huge trade to break down, and one big question about

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Speaker 1: this trade. That's next. Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio