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Speaker 1: Welcome back to all the smoke coming to you live
Speaker 1: from Las Vegas. Jack, were running shit under our own.
Speaker 1: We're working for ourselves these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of tags we used to normally hear
Speaker 2: on our show when we here, he ain't gonna hear.
Speaker 3: It's just us, just us.
Speaker 1: Today we got Man, one of Billboard's fifty Greatest Producers
Speaker 1: of the twenty first century. Grammy Award winning producer created
Speaker 1: music with the likes of jay Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, Miley Cyres,
Speaker 1: just the name a few. Welcome to the show Man,
Speaker 1: motherfucking Mike will Mighty.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Alrighty man, So Mike, you got a lot of new
Speaker 1: stuff going on right now. How's life day to day?
Speaker 1: What's new?
Speaker 3: Talk to us minus the boys, Life's great. You already
Speaker 3: know you know what I'm saying, but I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: It's like, now I'm thirty four, Now you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So like boom, It's like it's a lot
Speaker 3: that to happen. And then at the same time it's
Speaker 3: like I'm still learning, but like like I took like
Speaker 3: a little break off from like dropping music like just
Speaker 3: so consistently. It was really like a minute, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying like probably like my last album was
Speaker 3: like seven years ago. Okay, yeah, so took a little
Speaker 3: break off for that, and then I was just like learning,
Speaker 3: like being able to articulate myself, man, because I have
Speaker 3: like a whole company. I have producers, I have a
Speaker 3: production company, I have a record label, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And then it's like I lost my heart drives.
Speaker 3: And then when I lost my heart Drives, that made
Speaker 3: me feel like that made me take a step away
Speaker 3: from music. You know what I'm saying. I started buying
Speaker 3: like real estate, start trying other like different different like
Speaker 3: business ventures and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and just not all the way just zero straight in
Speaker 3: on music. It's not like I took a step away
Speaker 3: from music and when it got burnt out, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I want to sharpened up.
Speaker 1: Just recharge your batteries and diversified your portfolio.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Congratulations is in order ahead of the current season, you
Speaker 1: parted with ESPN for Music Custom Strategies to be their
Speaker 1: first ever lead producer in current music. What's the first
Speaker 1: thing you did after getting that call? I mean partner
Speaker 1: with the NBA. I mean, you worked with a lot
Speaker 1: of greats, but you're partnering with the league.
Speaker 3: That mean to you, man, it was dope. Bro. It's
Speaker 3: just dope to be able to like combine music and sports,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I just feel like, man,
Speaker 3: that's everybody either watching the game, listening to somebody's new album,
Speaker 3: new song, or like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: that's just it. That's just a culture. So it's like
Speaker 3: it's dope to make that collaboration. And I always been,
Speaker 3: always been a fan of the NBA. I was letting
Speaker 3: them hear a bunch of different music that I was
Speaker 3: working on, and then like that Sway Lee and Lotto
Speaker 3: record really stood out to them. So they were like, man,
Speaker 3: you think they could do another edit for like the
Speaker 3: commercial art and we want you to like give us
Speaker 3: like a sound really, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: we usually go to like record labels and collaborate with
Speaker 3: like record labels and tap in with their different artists
Speaker 3: like that, but like we never really locked in with
Speaker 3: a producer. So it was dope to like for them
Speaker 3: for them to see that, And it was like I
Speaker 3: came with a couple of different ideas, like I gave
Speaker 3: him like our beat, you know what I'm saying, Like, y'all,
Speaker 3: I feel like he's have dope energy. We write down
Speaker 3: a couple of names of artists that we hear on
Speaker 3: like these beats. So after this way and a lot
Speaker 3: of record boom, we came with the money bag yo
Speaker 3: and watch TV fat Like, I just liked what they
Speaker 3: got going on. So they had knocked out one of
Speaker 3: the beats, and then we got a couple more songs
Speaker 3: on the way and stuff, so it was dope. It's
Speaker 3: a dope collaborator.
Speaker 1: At the end of the season, you guys will pretty
Speaker 1: much have a whole album then if I'm not mistaken
Speaker 1: round so you have that. So you're doing all the
Speaker 1: national games, the big games all season, that will be
Speaker 1: something you produced.
Speaker 3: It's not like a lockdamn project. It's something that we
Speaker 3: talked about though for show, like man put all the
Speaker 3: songs together.
Speaker 1: Just so we talking it into existence.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, it really really just manifested it, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Because like they had they had liked
Speaker 3: the idea because I was like, man, I just made
Speaker 3: music that people can bow to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's like boom. I was like, man, I can
Speaker 3: mess around to be an album.
Speaker 1: Man, So what exactly does like the job detail? Like
Speaker 1: do you dictate? Do you have to check in with them?
Speaker 1: You give them ideas, they give you feedback, Like how
Speaker 1: exactly does the partnership work?
Speaker 3: It's really just like a collaboration. Man, I don't really
Speaker 3: like the one that I don't want to go in there.
Speaker 3: And just like man, I'm like put my mind around
Speaker 3: like making an artist because ESPN is not an artist,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's like really like
Speaker 3: they let me know the body that they're looking for
Speaker 3: and then boom, like and now it never came about
Speaker 3: because with the tournament, it was just like okay, man,
Speaker 3: it's like a tournament within the league, within the regular season.
Speaker 3: So it was like man, boom, Like they're like, man,
Speaker 3: we need some high energy something like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like just imagine like a little side side
Speaker 3: like tournament going on within the season and like this
Speaker 3: is something mess up people fighting for like how Lebrown
Speaker 3: went off last night, Like it's like, man, what the
Speaker 3: hell out? You know what I'm saying, and it's like
Speaker 3: he taking his eies. Like it's like the playoffs, Like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, so boom with now or Never.
Speaker 3: It was like they needed some high energy. So that's
Speaker 3: how I mean, that's how we really chose that beat.
Speaker 3: Gave it the bag, bag nail, the nail, the concept. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you get in your zone? Obviously
Speaker 1: as athletes, we have our rituals and routines we do
Speaker 1: to get focused for a game. When you feel like
Speaker 1: you're at your best making beats, producing Like what does
Speaker 1: that consist of? Smoke?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I smoked. You know what I'm saying. I smoked
Speaker 3: some gas. I'm really like at my studio in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I got a studio in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: like like West Midtown area. And then it's like it's
Speaker 3: not really like your typical studios, just like open and
Speaker 3: then it's like a bunch of different creatives coming through,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, but it's like my team.
Speaker 3: So it's like I can go to them and it's
Speaker 3: like a challenging thing because like they might be making
Speaker 3: beats and I'm like, bro, you hearing this? You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like what room with this living? Like
Speaker 3: how you feel like this is going to stand up?
Speaker 3: Cause you know what I'm saying right now, you just
Speaker 3: starting off like and I can like challenge them in
Speaker 3: these rooms and I can start seeing like their sounds
Speaker 3: like form into something, form into something different, and like
Speaker 3: them start putting their DNA on there. So it's like
Speaker 3: I like producing like that, and then I like for
Speaker 3: show cooking up, like I go to the studio, made
Speaker 3: about three three to five beats to day easy, Like
Speaker 3: that's just like the regimen, like I try to make
Speaker 3: five different bangers. But then it's like working with the
Speaker 3: different team and coming with the different sounds and then
Speaker 3: bringing in songwriters and then putting those different songs together,
Speaker 3: and then different artists coming through my studio and then
Speaker 3: it's like I can challenge them and try to get
Speaker 3: them a different sound and they doing They're coming in
Speaker 3: there already looking like Yo, this studio is different, right,
Speaker 3: Like man, I got to do something different in here,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then so you're raising their game, You're challenging them competitive.
Speaker 3: That's the importance of like any producer, like when we're
Speaker 3: coming up. I know when I was coming up, and
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like for real, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like Kanye or you know what I'm saying, any of
Speaker 3: our any of our favorite producers, many fresh you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, juicyj DJ, probably like they pushing it,
Speaker 3: but they leaving their DNA, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you know we already know, like all those producers
Speaker 3: are just name, you already know they sound or it's
Speaker 3: a song that pops in your head with that. So
Speaker 3: it's like I always try to get my team to
Speaker 3: understand like that part. So then they coming through leaving
Speaker 3: that same DNA like dope right up.
Speaker 1: When you make a beat, is it with someone in
Speaker 1: mind or once you create the beat, then you try
Speaker 1: to put a name to it.
Speaker 3: Or don't even to both.
Speaker 1: I don't even think, Okay, you're just out there doing
Speaker 1: what you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think. Like I literally had the
Speaker 3: beat machine right here, I'll be like, yo, say a
Speaker 3: number between one hundred and two hundred, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and then boom, you could just say anything
Speaker 3: one thirty eight. Well, you know what I'm saying, one
Speaker 3: forty nine, one seventy six. I make a beat right there,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, that's the tempo. So so
Speaker 3: whatever number you say, boom, got damn boom, put the
Speaker 3: tempo right there, put the click track on there, and
Speaker 3: just make something. I even think, just try to do
Speaker 3: something out of pocket, as long as it's out of
Speaker 3: pocket and it feel new and fresh. And they got
Speaker 3: the room like this, and they got the people in
Speaker 3: the room that don't rap acting like they wrap. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, That's when you got some shit,
Speaker 3: yeah for real, because that's that's the vibe for real,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then it's always good
Speaker 3: to have like a musician around as somebody who's like
Speaker 3: good on the keys or like I like to collab
Speaker 3: like that, so had them plug up too, I might
Speaker 3: just I might just do that boom. Somebody might be
Speaker 3: playing the guitar, playing the piano or playing playing on
Speaker 3: the keyboards or something like that, and it's just adding
Speaker 3: to it and just adding the layers, because that's essentially
Speaker 3: when you're making the song, that's all you doing, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Just stacking rhythm and melody.
Speaker 2: Your family has a deep musical background. Talk about your
Speaker 2: upbringing and your musical background with your family.
Speaker 3: I definitely had like cousins I was looking up to
Speaker 3: for show that was like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: rapping and trying to start their record was in there.
Speaker 3: My mom she she's sung with the Dotty People's Choir.
Speaker 3: But my mom never made like any money after the
Speaker 3: music industry or anything like that. It was just like
Speaker 3: it was almost like her going to church, Like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, She singing with dotted People's choir,
Speaker 3: and they moved around to different churches and different stuff
Speaker 3: like that. In my pots, he always had like he
Speaker 3: always he was like a DJ. So he always had
Speaker 3: hell of rap records and stuff in in the crib.
Speaker 3: So like all the earth wind the fires, all the classics.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Bobbie won't make like all
Speaker 3: the classes. Yeah, he had all the vinyls. Somebody used
Speaker 3: to see him like just put a vinyl on, play,
Speaker 3: play the record, and then when he leave, I want
Speaker 3: to do the same thing, but I want to hear something,
Speaker 3: so I'll put it on there and think I know
Speaker 3: what I'm doing. Break his needle, like damn, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, ruar it up. I got two older sisters.
Speaker 3: So my sister that's closest in age to me, like
Speaker 3: she always listening to like R and B pop that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, like some rap stuff, but like she
Speaker 3: was like more that leaning. Then my older sister would
Speaker 3: be more rap, you know what I'm saying. Like, but
Speaker 3: she'll be like she was like out cast, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like her husband put me on like
Speaker 3: jay Z, Like you know what I'm saying, Because at
Speaker 3: first I was really like just down South hip hop,
Speaker 3: like all the way. But then her husband put me
Speaker 3: on like Blueprint, and that's when I really started rocking
Speaker 3: with jay Z. I fucked with him on that Juvenile album.
Speaker 3: But like when I heard that Blueprint, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh no, he hard. Then I went back to reasonable
Speaker 3: doubt and then I just started, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: tapping all the way in the right way. I was
Speaker 3: always like a down South hip hop artist or like
Speaker 3: a West Coast or like I like New York artists too,
Speaker 3: like Nas and DMX, Jadykiss like off the rail, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But yeah, so it was like that.
Speaker 3: So it was always like that mix, that mix up
Speaker 3: in the crib. I remember my pops had took me
Speaker 3: to my first hip hop concert with Bone Thust and
Speaker 3: Harmony Bone Thus in Harmony whoopd somebody's ass in the
Speaker 3: crowd and everything like the whole concert ended, we had
Speaker 3: to leave and all that. But my pops was like
Speaker 3: in the car, he was tripping because he was like, yo,
Speaker 3: music's about the end. I'm like what you mean. It
Speaker 3: was like yo, there was no instruments on stage, and
Speaker 3: I was like so what man? That shit was hard,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, This is like ninety
Speaker 3: four ninety five. But he used to go on the
Speaker 3: Earth Wind the Fire concerts and all this, so this
Speaker 3: is his first hip hop concert too. But that just
Speaker 3: stuck with me, like because I always was like listening
Speaker 3: to music, but when I started making music, that stuck
Speaker 3: with me, you know what I'm saying, Like and that
Speaker 3: that really like that stuck with me because I realized, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: things are like changing and evolution, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and like that's what I even had to
Speaker 3: look back on, like over these last seven years, it's
Speaker 3: like looking back and being like, Yo, we actually pioneered
Speaker 3: some shit, like we actually like ye, like we weren't
Speaker 3: a part of that movement, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: but like I was like the early stages of that,
Speaker 3: but like being a student of that, seeing it and
Speaker 3: not even understanding like there was anything else out there,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and then being able to
Speaker 3: come in and make our own imprint in that shit.
Speaker 2: Like what do you think when you have these lines?
Speaker 2: Mike Will made it. Gucci Man slated start status, everybody upgraded.
Speaker 3: I think about Patchwork. First day I met Gucci man,
Speaker 3: Gucci at what Not? Another first that I met Gucci
Speaker 3: first time. This is the first day me and Gucci
Speaker 3: ever recorded. He was working on the mixtape called No Paying,
Speaker 3: No Pencil, And I remember he had called me from
Speaker 3: Walker's phone because me and Walker used to hang with
Speaker 3: each other all the time, so like he called me
Speaker 3: from walker phone early in the morning. He was like, man,
Speaker 3: wake up, Like I'm like, who this is? He was like, man,
Speaker 3: they gooch be at Patchwork at two o'clock, pull up
Speaker 3: with with some hard beats. But at this time I
Speaker 3: had already knew Goots for a couple of years. I
Speaker 3: already knew Walker for a couple of years, but he
Speaker 3: never had got on my beats or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. It was like feel
Speaker 3: like getting that call?
Speaker 1: Is it goosebu?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 1: I got what?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: You want to know? You wont know how I met Gucci.
Speaker 3: I was getting my CDs printed up at patchwork, so
Speaker 3: I used to always go down there, pay a couple
Speaker 3: hundred dollars for some blank CDs. Boom, give me a
Speaker 3: beat CD, I'll passed him out. So one day I'm
Speaker 3: getting pressed up. Gucci was upstairs and they were like, man,
Speaker 3: you know, Gucci man upstairs. I'm like, for real, brother,
Speaker 3: let me get one of them CDs. So I go upstairs.
Speaker 3: He going from the studio to the lounge. So I'm like, hey, brother,
Speaker 3: fuck with me. I got the beats. And I'm like fifteen.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, fuck with me, man,
Speaker 3: I got the beats. He's like, oh yeah, to the beats.
Speaker 3: Went in the lounge, put a man, him and Fabo
Speaker 3: in the lounge is freestyling on the beats, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So then I'm outside the room and
Speaker 3: I'm just listening to it. I'm like, that's hard, Like
Speaker 3: I hope they record something. So next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: Gucci come out there. He like, hey, man, you shot
Speaker 3: it with the beats. Boy. He bring me up there.
Speaker 3: He get my number. He tell me he needs the
Speaker 3: session for the beats. He like, man, let me get
Speaker 3: your number. Nah, I got his line. I got somebody
Speaker 3: trying to buy some beats. Like he just noticed this
Speaker 3: young dude calling his phone. But he fucked with me.
Speaker 3: This one. He was doing features for like like twenty
Speaker 3: five hundred, like five thousand, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This trapped out Gucci like this way back in the day,
Speaker 3: so Boom, he had got locked up. When he got
Speaker 3: locked up, me and Walker randomly meet each other. We
Speaker 3: don't even know who each other is, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So we're in the same club. He got
Speaker 3: a cruel people. I got a cruel people. One of
Speaker 3: his guys came in my face throwing up something. My
Speaker 3: guy pushed him back. Boom, and I was about to
Speaker 3: be on. Next thing, you know, my boy Obs and
Speaker 3: Walker come out of nowhere. Walker jump in front of
Speaker 3: his guys and now my boy Obs. He come, he
Speaker 3: come up, he and he like dat Walker. They're standing
Speaker 3: in front of us. They wap up. So I'm looking
Speaker 3: at ours because my boy Obs had just moved down
Speaker 3: from New York. So in this in this time of
Speaker 3: of like Atlanta clubs, like we're fighting in the club,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. So like when when
Speaker 3: Oz like tapped up, I was like, hold on what
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? And Walker was like, man,
Speaker 3: aren't you from New York. I'm like, nah, he from
Speaker 3: New York. You know what I'm saying. And he was like, man,
Speaker 3: bro cool man. He had New York had them, and
Speaker 3: he told his guys like, hey, man, y'all back up,
Speaker 3: brou you know what I'm saying. Then they then they
Speaker 3: all went the other way. Then me and Walker ended
Speaker 3: up running into each other in the bathroom. He leaving out.
Speaker 3: Then when I leave out, I see him right there
Speaker 3: in the hallway and I'm like, all right, boy, was
Speaker 3: just me and him in the club, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying at this part of the club. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: I might have to hit with this dude whatever. He
Speaker 3: won't even know there. He just put his arm around me, like, hey, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm just young and just defensive. I'm really too young
Speaker 3: to even be in the club for real. He put
Speaker 3: his arm around, like, hey, bro, some holes in here.
Speaker 3: Bro like, man, bro, this y'all try to y'all stay
Speaker 3: out here. I'm like, hey, yeah, I'm like, yeah, we
Speaker 3: stay out here. He was like, man, I'm not really
Speaker 3: off from He was like, man, we're from the South Side,
Speaker 3: my word. And then I tell him, I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: my bad about earlier. Bro. Man, we just been trying
Speaker 3: to get to the money. He was like, yeah, my
Speaker 3: boys was tripping.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: He's like what you do? He was like, you be hustling.
Speaker 3: I'm like nah, I'm like I'm trying to fuck with
Speaker 3: the music. And so walking I was like a word.
Speaker 3: He was like, man, you know Gucci, that's my cousin.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, shit, Gucci, my boy. So I
Speaker 3: pulled my phone out showing the numbers I got on
Speaker 3: Gucci and then he's like, man, damn, you know Gucci
Speaker 3: for real. I'm like hey yeah. So he was like, man,
Speaker 3: g you about to come home. Man, I'm gonna put
Speaker 3: you with him. And then and so I gave him
Speaker 3: my number. Then we connected. Then he ended up connecting
Speaker 3: me and Gucci. You know what I'm saying. When me
Speaker 3: and Gucci ended up connecting, like I used to come
Speaker 3: to the studio, shot a red fat boy, all them
Speaker 3: they might be in the studio. These all the producers
Speaker 3: I'm looking up to. So next thing, you know, like
Speaker 3: Gucci just put me on blast like it might put
Speaker 3: the beats on. I'll be like, man, hey, no, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So and he was like, man, yo,
Speaker 3: don't do all the nervous stuff. Man, put the beats on.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, I put
Speaker 3: the beats on. They started freestyling to the beats, but
Speaker 3: he never got on them. So that day right there,
Speaker 3: the Mike Will made it Gucci man slated part. It
Speaker 3: was like that was the first day he called me
Speaker 3: up to the studio boom and we did star Status.
Speaker 3: I played the beat and he walked in. He was like,
Speaker 3: he was like, man, yo, might will on that beat
Speaker 3: right there, buddy, start status sayings Nigga straight celebrity baby.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, And Nigga turned me up. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Then in his verse, he said
Speaker 3: that Mike Will made it, Gucci Man slated start sat
Speaker 3: this nigga. Everybody upgraded from there right from that point
Speaker 3: right right there, Like when that song came out, everybody
Speaker 3: was like, Mike Will made it, that's your name, because
Speaker 3: at first I was going by Mike Will. When they
Speaker 3: heard that, I was just like, all right, Mike Will
Speaker 3: made it. That's really where the name came from. We
Speaker 3: ended up doing like twenty songs, Gucci not even listening
Speaker 3: to the beats, Like he just pulled up the next
Speaker 3: Mike Will go in the lounge to listen to the
Speaker 3: last song he did, walked straight into booth, turning to
Speaker 3: Mic on he don't even listen to the beat. Mike
Speaker 3: Will just picked the beat, just going in a freestyle.
Speaker 3: That's how we were doing No Pay, No Pencil. That's
Speaker 3: how we did Guappaholics, And yeah, that's where it all started.
Speaker 1: At How old were you at that time?
Speaker 3: I was like sixteen seventeen. Yeah, I was sixteen seventeen
Speaker 3: because I was still in high school, so that was
Speaker 3: like senior year type stuff. So like, yeah, that came
Speaker 3: out O seven, so I was like seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he came home this last time. Were you
Speaker 2: at his first video? Shoot?
Speaker 3: Man, we dropped the first as soon as he came on.
Speaker 2: We did a video, a basketball video in a basketball
Speaker 2: court at some house.
Speaker 3: When Gucci first came home, we did first Day out
Speaker 3: the Fairs him on the radio in Les's twenty four Hours, Man, Like,
Speaker 3: he called me, Mike, send me that first day out
Speaker 3: of fan send him to beat here, like, man, go
Speaker 3: mix it. He couldn't even leave the crib, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, So boom, I wanted to mix it.
Speaker 3: And the next thing I know, I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send to Charlemagne, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like Charlamagne heard it. He fucked with it. He was
Speaker 3: like he was like bet and they played on Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3: It went up. Then they shot the video, So that
Speaker 3: might be what you're talking about. First day out the
Speaker 3: Fans when he was in the house, he couldn't even leave, yeah,
Speaker 3: for real. And then we did Black Beatles. Now you
Speaker 3: know me and Coots, man, we always rocking like for real, man,
Speaker 3: we got to that's like one of them you know
Speaker 3: y'all know them dynamic duos. Man, for real, that that
Speaker 3: team work where he just ain't even really got to
Speaker 3: say too much to a person. You know what I'm saying, y'all,
Speaker 3: just give and go. He past.
Speaker 2: When he came home, he reached out to me. He
Speaker 2: reached out to when he was shooting his first videos
Speaker 2: like pull Up Jack when he first got home.
Speaker 3: That's hard.
Speaker 2: We knew each other, but we ain't really just rock
Speaker 2: like that before he went to jail. Okay, and he
Speaker 2: came home, I guess I saw somebody opposed to a
Speaker 2: supporting them or something. When he came home, he reached out.
Speaker 3: So that was dope, and he was in a totally
Speaker 3: different mind state. You know what I'm saying. Came home,
Speaker 3: he was all the way focused, So you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, worried up. That's hard that you were supporting video.
Speaker 3: I'm in there.
Speaker 1: Is that before you got your nice teeth.
Speaker 2: I had nice teeth then, Okay? That just this this
Speaker 2: is a new set. Yeah, you just steal pearly every
Speaker 2: time I get my money, I'm gonna get some news.
Speaker 3: I ain't mad at you.
Speaker 1: You're about to get some new, newer, newer ones.
Speaker 3: Yep, about too much before I got my nice, my
Speaker 3: nice teeth and ship. Yeah, we all my nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah influences. You spoke on Pharrell, You've also mentioned timbaland Drake.
Speaker 1: You obviously took many fresh man Yeah, you took different
Speaker 1: parts and difference and kind of made it your own.
Speaker 1: Speak to that and how those legends influenced your sound.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like early hip hop nineties, it was like
Speaker 3: West Coast sound, West Coast and so East coast, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Where Hypnotized Mind came through with
Speaker 3: like that sound like you still had UGK, but it
Speaker 3: was still kind of like West Coast sound like vibes,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: UGK was We had definitely a West Coast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, West coast yeah, abobam j G. Still it was
Speaker 3: down south, but it was still kind of West Coast
Speaker 3: by early on, but it was like man like for me,
Speaker 3: it was like man, when Hypnotized Mind came through, that's
Speaker 3: what really like started give them like the South like
Speaker 3: that sound, and then it's like from there, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, You got a Little John take from
Speaker 3: that sound and then he come with his own sound
Speaker 3: with crump, you know what I'm saying, And then like
Speaker 3: Little John was a heavy influence where It's like I
Speaker 3: respect that how he had the city and the chokehold
Speaker 3: on all spectrums. He had to turned up club records,
Speaker 3: the Crump records for passing try and then he had
Speaker 3: the bankers with us. Then he had the joints with Loutter.
Speaker 3: Then he had the joints for you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So versatility.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like the versatility and the wide range.
Speaker 3: That's what I respected about like him and like phar
Speaker 3: Real and like how they can spread they sound out,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that's something that I
Speaker 3: always wanted to do. So like from like Lord John
Speaker 3: and then shot it. Red brought like that sound. He
Speaker 3: had his own sound, like that trap sound. He he
Speaker 3: brought that bass sound to the A and he had
Speaker 3: his own sound. And then Drummer Boy like he brought
Speaker 3: that Memphis sound to the A and like I was
Speaker 3: just seeing it and it was like all right, cool,
Speaker 3: like now this is like the South sound like the
Speaker 3: eight Awaits and you know what I'm saying, different stuff
Speaker 3: like that. So then I started building my team the
Speaker 3: ear Drummers, And when that happened, Yeah, Ear Drummers came
Speaker 3: about in two thousand and seven, and it was just me,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then I was going
Speaker 3: to high school my brother plus and then boom, he
Speaker 3: was the first one with ear drummers. And then I
Speaker 3: saw it like I always was trying to, like in
Speaker 3: my mind, I always wanted to build this team where
Speaker 3: it's like there's a bunch of producers that's thinking outside
Speaker 3: of the box. It's like thinking on my level, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, where I look at them like, man, ship, Man,
Speaker 3: you could do this on your own. But the way
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, man, we do this shit like this,
Speaker 3: like we could change your game. So it's like, man,
Speaker 3: I felt like a team like that. Everybody on there
Speaker 3: was like it was like the Gladiators, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like plus P Nasty Mars J Bow. So
Speaker 3: we started coming with this sound where it's like, man, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna put the you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 3: the beats und there filter, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to eight away its hitting in a
Speaker 3: distorted way, and we're gonna take this the future and
Speaker 3: we're gonna take this Gucci, We're gonna take this to
Speaker 3: two chains like you know what I'm saying, We're gonna
Speaker 3: take this to trouble. We're gonna take this to dump
Speaker 3: like everybody who we were rocking with, like you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and and like boom, I was just
Speaker 3: like the underground Atlanta sound. But it was like our
Speaker 3: sound was known for, like Okay, the beat gonna sound
Speaker 3: like it's going under the water. The base gonna sound
Speaker 3: like it's distorting. It's gonna have this different kind of
Speaker 3: sound that it's gonna break like this, and it's like, man,
Speaker 3: we just kept coming consistently that on every track and
Speaker 3: all our beats was always just different. Always a lot
Speaker 3: of times the artists would be like, man, I don't
Speaker 3: know how to get on this one, and I might
Speaker 3: have to tell him like man, just do you like
Speaker 3: the same flow, Like even when we did itching like
Speaker 3: rock and with Pluto, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: I'm like when you heard the beat, he like to
Speaker 3: beat hard. B If you get on this and just
Speaker 3: do that, we win and flow bro, it's out of here,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, because we win. In
Speaker 3: one of my favorite Pluto songs, like my Nigga June
Speaker 3: got life forlow ninety nine years, were popping about us
Speaker 3: every day, you know what I'm saying, Like like just
Speaker 3: that voice, that tone, like how he was just cutting
Speaker 3: through on that song.
Speaker 1: It was just like so your beasts were almost intimidating
Speaker 1: to something. Some of these people.
Speaker 3: I want to call it intimidating because the people I'm
Speaker 3: naming it they are beat.
Speaker 1: But just to me, I think it speaks to like
Speaker 1: your creativity. I mean like you guys are creating that
Speaker 1: sound and like, shit, I feel it, But how do
Speaker 1: I jump on it?
Speaker 3: How do I jump on this? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Because it's like at that time the sound was a
Speaker 3: little bit too different to me, that's innovation, you feel
Speaker 3: me When somebody don't understand something, it's like, okay, man,
Speaker 3: you're cooking with grease. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like didn't really rock, but like ain't nowhere around it.
Speaker 3: For like the first five times, ten times I brought
Speaker 3: it to the studio, but I only would bring that
Speaker 3: beat to the studio. And I caught him on a
Speaker 3: good night he had just did Tony Montana and then
Speaker 3: he did Anyway Around It the same night. You know what,
Speaker 3: I'm saying, but it was like he turned that beat
Speaker 3: down so many times, but I could just hear him
Speaker 3: on the beat. I knew he was on that beat,
Speaker 3: and it just ended up being like a classic, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. At that time, it was like, man,
Speaker 3: we were trying to make a name for ourselves. So
Speaker 3: it's like just knowing, like now this beat is for
Speaker 3: this person. No, lie, this is for two chains. We
Speaker 3: ain't gonna get this nobody right now, Like I gave
Speaker 3: it to a couple of people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I knew that.
Speaker 1: That beat, that's what That's what I was asking earlier.
Speaker 1: It's just like once you hear it, like you know
Speaker 1: who's flow and and and it's gonna fit on it
Speaker 1: in fact so fact, So you're known as someone who
Speaker 1: is a monster with the drums. You're known as kind
Speaker 1: of the drum king. And where did that kind of
Speaker 1: come into your repertoire.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to break the rules, like whether it's
Speaker 3: like this like the sound of the drum, like the Sonnets,
Speaker 3: where it's like man, making that shit distort, or making
Speaker 3: that shit like being a weird podcat, any sound that
Speaker 3: we do like we all pushing each other like na, nah,
Speaker 3: I sound too regularly, Like you know what I'm saying, like, nah,
Speaker 3: we need to move to the left, we need to
Speaker 3: move to the right. We need to slow it down,
Speaker 3: we need to bring the volume up on the eight away.
Speaker 3: I'm arguing with the mixing engineers like they're showing me
Speaker 3: on the board where it's like, now we can't crank
Speaker 3: that it away up anymore because of this, that and
Speaker 3: the third, and it's like, but that don't matter. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about how I feel like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to create the new rock and roll,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, hip hop to me,
Speaker 3: it is the same thing as rock and roll. It's
Speaker 3: just this is our rock and roll, like you feel me.
Speaker 3: So it's like, now let's break the rules a little bit,
Speaker 3: like let's make it distort, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Distortion always been art, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: people love distortion when they listen to rock and roll.
Speaker 3: So it's like, man, like just always breaking those rules
Speaker 3: and just being out of pocket. I feel like, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and not just coming with that
Speaker 3: same boom boom boom, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: that the same you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 3: know how it's gonna drop, you know how the high
Speaker 3: hat's gonna go, Like not not trying to do that.
Speaker 2: Rest in peace to my brother's school, but y'all had
Speaker 2: created a sound that was crazy.
Speaker 3: Facts are you talking about school man? School legend? You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I ain't gonna lie school
Speaker 3: like I've been doing school from like coming up in
Speaker 3: Atlanta too, on the whole underground scene, like he was
Speaker 3: always working, you know what I'm saying, coming out of
Speaker 3: the East Side like duct tape like Alli, Like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They had like a whole wave
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, And it was like
Speaker 3: all of us were coming up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And in school, like we was always around the same ape.
Speaker 3: But I always knew school corrap, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like he was always hard. So then it
Speaker 3: was like boom, we're moving around resting piece of bank
Speaker 3: like I was moving around at this time. I would
Speaker 3: be in La and then I'll come back to Atlanta
Speaker 3: and then I'll be like, man, all right, boom, like
Speaker 3: because I'm always thinking about like what I'm gonna do
Speaker 3: for it, like we gotta do it for the city,
Speaker 3: Like what's gonna be like another like city win. So
Speaker 3: it was like bank Roll. I was like, man, I'm
Speaker 3: locking with bank Roll, like and then we did a
Speaker 3: couple of songs on my Ransom project and then like
Speaker 3: we're we're working on some stuff and then boom, he
Speaker 3: had passed. And then it was like School. I would
Speaker 3: like keep in touch with School and he would like
Speaker 3: send me songs here and there. School would either be
Speaker 3: focused on music or he's not focused on music. So
Speaker 3: I'm telling School like, bro, I'm here, Like you ain't
Speaker 3: got to keep telling me send you beats. I'm here
Speaker 3: like whenever you want to focus, Like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I'm here. So then next thing you know,
Speaker 3: School started dropping different mixtapes and I was hearing on it.
Speaker 3: I'll be tapping in on his mixtapes and I call
Speaker 3: him like, brouh, you went crazy on this on the
Speaker 3: mixtape with you and told me you went crazy on
Speaker 3: this mixtape that I had. Bro Boom, Man, my boy
Speaker 3: Ducko gonna come to the studio. Man, y'all, y'all boys,
Speaker 3: cook up something. I'm'na be back in town this week.
Speaker 3: They did big God. I ended up using that on
Speaker 3: Ransom too, and I was like my favorite song, Like,
Speaker 3: like how he kept that motherfucker. So I was like, Man,
Speaker 3: I told school. I was like, Bro, when I get
Speaker 3: back to you, hey, bro, we just got to like
Speaker 3: lock in, make a sound. You just put it out
Speaker 3: and then Bro like, man, people gonna come to you,
Speaker 3: people gonna gravitate to you. Bro, like cause you hard. Bro.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it's gonna take or what Like, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, let's just whenever I get back, like,
Speaker 3: let's just lock in. So he was like, all right,
Speaker 3: Beck so boom. I was at Tree siund one night,
Speaker 3: was like twelve or one in the morning. I thought
Speaker 3: about it. I was like, damn wants to hit school.
Speaker 3: I hit him. I'm like, Yo, School, what here you at.
Speaker 3: I'm in the city. I'm I'm about to drop you
Speaker 3: the address. Pull up to the studio, send him the address.
Speaker 3: He came out to the Tree sound. We did bring
Speaker 3: it back as soon as he walked in the room,
Speaker 3: I was making to bring it back beat. As soon
Speaker 3: as he walked in the room, he was like, I
Speaker 3: said something, my Motherfuckingry Diamond's on a young nigga dancing.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, hey, man, load to
Speaker 3: beat up, hold to beat up. I'm like, bro, I
Speaker 3: ain't even down to beat you know what I'm saying, Like, man,
Speaker 3: load that ship up. Bro, that shit hard. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: record the beat man, let him get on it. So
Speaker 3: he got on it. Did you do those thing which
Speaker 3: one No, we ain't do, Dophin, Yeah, that's what that album,
Speaker 3: the last album did. Yeah, they didn't do no thing,
Speaker 3: but man, those were hard. No thing was hard.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: He got man recipes. Cool man, he got so much music.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, word it up, like
Speaker 3: for real. But that Edge Roll project, it was just
Speaker 3: something special. That shit was major for the song, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I ain't hurt that Edge well, man, you gotta go
Speaker 3: tap in. I definitely heard it. That shit definitely classic.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I got a classic for sure.
Speaker 3: Word it up.
Speaker 2: Twenty thirteen, Miley c Ide was Beyonce Future to Chains
Speaker 2: Kendrick all the who's who in music? How did that happen?
Speaker 2: And you signed with in the school? But at the
Speaker 2: same time, talk about all that happened at the one
Speaker 2: time I dropped.
Speaker 3: Songs with all of them on it. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, I started off in the underground in
Speaker 3: Atlanta and then just staying down with like Pluto, two Chains,
Speaker 3: Gucci and just looking at them like, man, these guys
Speaker 3: gonna be the biggest. We're not think about no Grammys
Speaker 3: when I think about but I'm not thinking about nothing else.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at like, man, these guys are gonna
Speaker 3: be the biggest. And then like just locking in with them.
Speaker 3: And then we're coming through the game and you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like like we're saying anywhere around it
Speaker 3: and and Dirty Sprite and itching. I was all twenty eleven,
Speaker 3: so twenty twelve it was that's for a future, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And then with two changes, it
Speaker 3: was Got one and Lila twenty eleven, twenty twelve, it
Speaker 3: was music as you made. I don't know how you
Speaker 3: remember this, because this was a significant part in my career.
Speaker 3: I was hungry. I was like starving like literally like
Speaker 3: I ain't have no management at this time. I ain't
Speaker 3: know nothing about the music business. I won't getting no music,
Speaker 3: I won't getting no money out of music or nothing
Speaker 3: like that, you know what I'm saying. So like Booing
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, it was like no, lie U turn on
Speaker 3: the lights and bands make a dance. I was like
Speaker 3: the breakout year. I still didn't have no management. That's
Speaker 3: when I met my management, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then Boom. After that it was like uh Rihanna
Speaker 3: poured up, you know what I'm saying. That I met
Speaker 3: with Miley's label Boom. Then we did We Can't Stop
Speaker 3: twenty three. That was twenty thirteen, and you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Now we're cooking with now we now we're
Speaker 3: cooking like our executive produced Miley album. I'm right here
Speaker 3: moving while with Pluto we dropped Move that dope. I
Speaker 3: ended up meeting with Jimmy Ivian like every day, like
Speaker 3: from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. When I signed my deal,
Speaker 3: like I was, really I was. It really took me
Speaker 3: like a year and a half, two years to even
Speaker 3: sign my deal because I was just nervous about that shit.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm winning. I'm winning when it comes to production.
Speaker 3: I got thirteen songs on the radio. Do I want
Speaker 3: to turn into an executive? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I ain't want to do anything where I was gonna
Speaker 3: lose that. So I was nervous at that shit. And
Speaker 3: then that's when that's when Jimmy was just telling me, like, man, yo, man,
Speaker 3: you can't lose. You're not a loser. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You can either learn to earn. And that
Speaker 3: shit stuck with me. You can either learn to earn.
Speaker 3: And I just signed my deal. First artist, first artist
Speaker 3: we signed was Ray Shrimmer. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's Ear Drummers backwards. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Jimmy and Swae Lee, they were already stars. So I'm like, man, bro,
Speaker 3: I never knew that it's still going on from Pepperhead
Speaker 3: I was. I was ten years ago. So my record label,
Speaker 3: Ear Drummers I started two thousand and seven, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. When I came with the record label,
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm gonna have a rock and
Speaker 3: roll side. You know what I'm saying, and I wrote down,
Speaker 3: what's ear drummers backwards? So I wrote it down and
Speaker 3: it was Ray Shrimmer. I was like, I'm gonna start
Speaker 3: a rock band. You know what I'm saying. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: And then when I met when I met Jimmy and Sway,
Speaker 3: they were rock and roll artists to me when I
Speaker 3: saw them, they straight from Tupelo, Misissippi. My boy P
Speaker 3: Nasty had them at their cribs. Yeah, I already seen
Speaker 3: him a couple of times. They came to the club
Speaker 3: with us a couple of times. They were young, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I know they were songwriting.
Speaker 3: But when I saw them, like in they artists mode
Speaker 3: and like Sway Lee rapping and Jimmy but the streaming
Speaker 3: ad libs or like rapping with him and then Jimmy
Speaker 3: are jumping start rapping and Sway he got the same energy.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I don't know what I lean I
Speaker 3: remember I leaned on the wall. I'm like, bro, he dudes,
Speaker 3: they some real rock stars, like and I told him
Speaker 3: this ship. I'm like, bro, y'all some real rock stars.
Speaker 3: So boom. Next thing you know, their name was Sway,
Speaker 3: so it was Jimmy Swaying and sway Lee. I was
Speaker 3: just telling them like, man, my man is sway in
Speaker 3: the morning. So if I go to stat like you
Speaker 3: heard that new ship I got with Sway, You're gonna
Speaker 3: think like you got something sway in the morning. Like damn,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. I ain't no Swaying to morning to be rapping.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying exactly. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like it might not register, but I'm like, man, what
Speaker 3: y'all think about the name race Shremmer? So they were like,
Speaker 3: what's that? I'm like, man, that's drummers backwards. They're like, oh, ship,
Speaker 3: that's hard. And then they're like, man, yo, we'll fuck
Speaker 3: with that. Hell yeah, man shrim Life. I'm like, that
Speaker 3: could be the name of the album. See with them,
Speaker 3: I already knew they gonna make anything cool. So it's like, man,
Speaker 3: they could they could be that rock band. And it's like, man, Yo,
Speaker 3: it's gonna take people a long time to even catch
Speaker 3: up with it, and they ain't gonna know how to
Speaker 3: say it. But it's like, man, we don't go to
Speaker 3: these other countries and tell people like man, yo, we
Speaker 3: only know how to speak English. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: speak English, Like nah, you learn their language. You move
Speaker 3: how they move, you eat how they eat. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's like, man, boom, if they
Speaker 3: like y'all records, y'all got all these hits, they gonna
Speaker 3: learn how to say ray Shimmers. They'll learn that there's
Speaker 3: Beckwards ten years later. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I want to mention a few names to you, Jared,
Speaker 1: what it was like the working process with them in
Speaker 1: what that track meant to you? Rihanna and poured.
Speaker 3: Up shout out to Taran and shout out to my
Speaker 3: brother Jabo. You know what I'm saying, shout out to
Speaker 3: old man man. He kept bugging me like cause that's
Speaker 3: when bands that make a dance was hot. So he
Speaker 3: kept saying like, Yo, Mike, if Rihanna just had the
Speaker 3: female version of bands and make a dance, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, should be out of here. And
Speaker 3: I'm like bro Chris saying like I hate when people say, like, man,
Speaker 3: you know, if I had Black Beatles, just give me
Speaker 3: black Beatles, man, I hate Yeah, I just hate that.
Speaker 3: So that but it was like it was like this
Speaker 3: beat that my boy Jabo had made that was exactly
Speaker 3: like bands make a dance. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was like another version. I was like, man, y'all
Speaker 3: really want that? I bet bo when I played the beat, tryan.
Speaker 3: He a hell of a rider, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So he just goes straight in, start catching the vibe,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and then boom, Chris Brown
Speaker 3: come to the studio and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Chris Brown come to the studio and he here. He like,
Speaker 3: You're like, man, yo, shit reheard this. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: she ain't heard it yet. He was like, man, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell her about this one. And I was like
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, that's hard. Man say let's you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Next thing, you know, Rihanna called the
Speaker 3: next day called Obam, was like, Yo, what's the song
Speaker 3: Chris talking about that? Mike Will got you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Next thing, you know, boom, she hears pour
Speaker 3: it up. She cuts that shit last minute for the album.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know if I was gonna make the album.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Karen Kuak
Speaker 3: for flying us out there having us work on that,
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying, that was like a
Speaker 3: beautiful thing, like and it was crazy because Rihanna she
Speaker 3: never had a record like that at the time, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, she never had like a
Speaker 3: strip club record, like a club record, So it was
Speaker 3: like that was an all the way new sound. And
Speaker 3: that's what I try to do, like when I'm producing
Speaker 3: these records, like I always want to make that record
Speaker 3: world person remembers where they were at when they heard
Speaker 3: they ship or what they were like what year was.
Speaker 3: That's why I can read off these years like that,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because I want to you
Speaker 3: want a person to feel like that, Like yeah, Like
Speaker 3: I remember, Bro, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, there's a music you hear something like Man ninety seven,
Speaker 1: I was in high school. This is when I heard
Speaker 1: when you said j.
Speaker 3: Z exactly, I was in college. U c l a
Speaker 3: fact with.
Speaker 1: The mother fucking Tower Records about that ship put in
Speaker 1: my New Tahoe that someone paid for and got for me.
Speaker 1: And that ship was you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: you always time and place with music.
Speaker 3: Right, And that's crazy, Bro, And that that's the good
Speaker 3: ship or whither that shit can be like some potato chips,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, to eat the whole bag
Speaker 3: and never get fulled, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like you could hear this shit a thousand times and
Speaker 3: never real even remember that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But it's like those songs that really stick with you
Speaker 3: are like those ones for real, Like that's what I
Speaker 3: always try to aim for when I'm producing these records.
Speaker 1: Black Beatles, you spoke to it. It went viral with
Speaker 1: Obama and the mannequin challenge.
Speaker 3: Black Beatles, right, Black Beatles. That was a crazy one
Speaker 3: because it was like the dude who gave me my
Speaker 3: first shot, Gucci, and then the artists that I'm my
Speaker 3: first artist, and I'm giving them they real shot, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and their first song together, and
Speaker 3: then it's all of our first number ones at this point.
Speaker 3: I didn't work with Rihanna, Beyonce, Miley, everybody. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, But like I got that number one,
Speaker 3: but the person who gave me my first shot and
Speaker 3: the artists my first artist, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: First number one hot, one hundred. That was crazy in
Speaker 3: the whole world. Bro, it was only that and the
Speaker 3: pandemic made the old world freeze, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I was crazy and it was like that beat.
Speaker 3: I felt like that beat wasn't ever. It wasn't even done,
Speaker 3: and that just showed. That just speaks to like Sway
Speaker 3: Lee how much he's like how much he's an instrument,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I thought that beat one done,
Speaker 3: but I ain't know what I needed, so I just
Speaker 3: sent it to him like, man, man, this beat hard.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask something else, but just get on there.
Speaker 3: He was like, man, this shit hard. He did the
Speaker 3: Black Beat, the hook, send it back. Gucci just came
Speaker 3: home from jail. I'm like, bro, listen at this song.
Speaker 3: Sway just sent me, like, bro, get on this joint.
Speaker 3: Gucci got on that joint. Boom, Jimmy got on that joint.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We had already turned in
Speaker 3: the album. I was like a last minute joint right up.
Speaker 1: Kanye Mercy.
Speaker 3: He was the first artist of Flyers out of Town
Speaker 3: to work like before then, I had never worked out
Speaker 3: of time, so he flew me to New York and
Speaker 3: my boy pen Ask and we were just up there
Speaker 3: cooking up and like I wanted like one of my man,
Speaker 3: my man j P.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: He had told me, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: I don't know that people want me to say the
Speaker 3: name or not. Man, that's my man. We're here. Tell me, like, bro,
Speaker 3: do not just go up there to put your drums
Speaker 3: on shit. You know what I'm saying. Make sure y'all
Speaker 3: do a song together. I was like, man, ir Bet
Speaker 3: so yay. First thing, first day I meet him, he
Speaker 3: was like, man, I got this song, just needs you
Speaker 3: to put your drums on that shit cause you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like yeah, like I need to put
Speaker 3: your drums on this ship here, like man, because I
Speaker 3: fuck with your drums here. Like there's a time in music.
Speaker 3: So I respected it because he came to me and said, like, Yo,
Speaker 3: there's a time of music where, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, a producer comes through with a certain sound
Speaker 3: and a certain frequency and they just need the right
Speaker 3: artists with the right tone to just cut through on
Speaker 3: that ship. And right now, you that guy. And this
Speaker 3: was my first day meeting him, So I'm thinking like
Speaker 3: there's so many different producers around. I'm thinking, like, man,
Speaker 3: one of his a and I probably just flew me
Speaker 3: up here. He ain't gonna know who I am for real,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. But when he said that,
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, that's hard. So I'm like, all right, Bet,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I was really more
Speaker 3: focused on, like I really wanted him to get on
Speaker 3: like some these beats that we had. But then like
Speaker 3: he played Mercy and he played it with no drums,
Speaker 3: and I was like, Damn, this shit is hard. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, This shit is a hit. Bro, Like,
Speaker 3: all right, Bet, he let me hear the one with drums.
Speaker 3: He was like, I like this version, but I feel
Speaker 3: like this version is kind of like doing the drums
Speaker 3: that you do. Like, so I just want you to
Speaker 3: go in and do you know what I'm saying, put
Speaker 3: your touch on it. So I'm like, all right, Bet
Speaker 3: did some drums on that. And the next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: like he took it to the radio with another song
Speaker 3: Boom went on the radio. That shit just went up.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn. I was like, At the same time,
Speaker 3: no life came out same time, turning on the lights,
Speaker 3: got on the radio, same time. Juicy J just put
Speaker 3: out bands make a dance. So it was like all
Speaker 3: this shit just happening like quick. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you did this. It's twenty twelve. I
Speaker 3: did the bare minimum with these drums. But it's like
Speaker 3: that yeah effect, Like you know what I'm saying, like that,
Speaker 3: Yeah heavy shook that ship.
Speaker 1: Up bands to make her dance. Juice and Jay Wayne Chains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that shit was crazy. I had sent Juice. I
Speaker 3: had just linked up with Juicy J, and I send
Speaker 3: him a pack of beats and then it was just one.
Speaker 3: It was that beat. I was like, Bro, this one
Speaker 3: right here is a smash. You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro,
Speaker 3: please get on this wool. So he had hit me
Speaker 3: back here like yo. I was at my homegirl house
Speaker 3: last night and man I did a set up in
Speaker 3: her kitchen and man, bro went in on that beat.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what I'm saying. At this time,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell he talking about? He did
Speaker 3: a set up in the kitchen, Like I'm like, send
Speaker 3: it to me, un so boom he sent me. He
Speaker 3: sent me the song man. I heard that ship, I
Speaker 3: was like, all I saw was Magic City d o
Speaker 3: A Onnest. I'm like, bro, I already know what to
Speaker 3: do with I was out of town. I was in LA.
Speaker 3: I was like, I know what to do with this.
Speaker 3: I called him. I'm like, hey, we got hit. I'm like,
Speaker 3: as soon as I get back to Atlanta, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be the biggest song in the strip club. Like, bro,
Speaker 3: I promise, you know what I'm saying, Boom, next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, go back to Atlanta playing the joint strip clubs,
Speaker 3: shit go up and it was just juicy on there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And then I played it
Speaker 3: for a couple more people. We were trying to figure
Speaker 3: out who we wanted to get on there. He had
Speaker 3: set Wayne. Wayne got on there, Two changs got on there.
Speaker 3: The rest was history. RE released it on my mixtape
Speaker 3: and then boom.
Speaker 1: Jay Z Beach is Better?
Speaker 3: All right? So Beach Is Better started off like Big
Speaker 3: Sean had ten to ten. He had that so on
Speaker 3: ten and teen, so he wanted to beat around ten
Speaker 3: to ten. So like we had did a couple beats
Speaker 3: around like the a cappella voice. Note that he had
Speaker 3: and Beach is Better was one of them, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So my boy Mars had sent me
Speaker 3: a couple of options, and I was like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: this beat hard, like hey, do this and that on
Speaker 3: the I'm on the phone with him telling them different
Speaker 3: edits to make d and then next thing you know,
Speaker 3: Mars sent me over to beat. I'm in the studio
Speaker 3: with Miley. There's two people from Coldplay right here. They
Speaker 3: had pulled up just to like hear different beats, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And then I heard Miley said
Speaker 3: ad lib so that and that Beach is Better as
Speaker 3: an ad lib that I took from like Miley session
Speaker 3: and put like an effect on it and put it
Speaker 3: on this beat that Mars has sent. Then I sent
Speaker 3: it the Big Sean like, bro, this this gotta be
Speaker 3: the one, Like you know what I'm saying. We put
Speaker 3: the extra juice on this one, like this gotta be
Speaker 3: the one. So I never heard from Big Sean. Then
Speaker 3: the next week I had the session with Hole, so
Speaker 3: I was locked in with whole the whole week and
Speaker 3: then boom, so I'm playing on different beats and my
Speaker 3: man Ryan Press was like he bro playing that Big Sean.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I can't do that the Big Seane
Speaker 3: bro like, yeah, he's gonna fuck with that. He was like, Bro,
Speaker 3: he was like, man, just playing for him, like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: you don't ever know, like playing for him. I was like, man, y'all,
Speaker 3: I got this beat, that idea for Big Sean, but
Speaker 3: I'm waiting to hear back from him, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. He was like, oh, yeah, let me hear.
Speaker 3: So I played the beat. He heard that shit. He
Speaker 3: was like, yo, yo, so what Big Sean say. I
Speaker 3: was like, man, I ain't heard nothing, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. He was like, Yo, We're gonna get Big
Speaker 3: Sean seven business days, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm like, all right, say last you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And so I have reached out to Sean.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, bro, what we're gonna do with
Speaker 3: with the tender team? He was like, no, I had
Speaker 3: I had this other version that I like. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: for Rel was all right, bet. I was like, that's
Speaker 3: all my brother, that's my areas brother. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Too. Yeah sure, so yeah, for sure, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So next thing, you know, like
Speaker 3: hope I got on that beach is better. I remember
Speaker 3: Cala had called me like yo yo, Hove did a
Speaker 3: record on that one beat you left him. He was like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get him to put a second verse
Speaker 3: on him, like this ship is going to be a problem.
Speaker 3: And then everybody kept I will hear about it. It
Speaker 3: was like, you know what I'm saying, I would hear
Speaker 3: about this record. They finally said it's going on the album.
Speaker 3: So then boom whole It's crazy because Whole rock with
Speaker 3: his engineer like the long way, like Guru, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Guru a goat. But at this time
Speaker 3: I'm trying to like really stamp that sound. Like so
Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to like mix any any records
Speaker 3: of mine because you know what I'm saying, I had
Speaker 3: this injury there that I worked with Jason Joshua, and
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like with him, it was
Speaker 3: like we already went through a thousand songs already and
Speaker 3: we didn't already he like we got this sound, now,
Speaker 3: we got our product supply chain going. So now it's like, yo,
Speaker 3: Big John, man, I need I need my man to
Speaker 3: mix the record. Big John like, look, Mike, this ain't
Speaker 3: the time to be difficult. Man, like this whole man
Speaker 3: like just send the files, like, don't don't try to
Speaker 3: be difficult. I was like, broh, listen, I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to be difficult, you know what I'm saying at all,
Speaker 3: Like if hole fuck with guru like Google mixed the
Speaker 3: vocals that my man mixed the beat. I just need
Speaker 3: to beat the sound how it's supposed to sound like,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So he like, man, I'll
Speaker 3: high light him. I see what's up. So boom. Finally
Speaker 3: they say like okay, cool, go ahead and do it. Boom.
Speaker 3: We mixed the beat, you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 3: send the vocals over that's mixed, We put it with it,
Speaker 3: they send it back. They're like, yo, man, this shit
Speaker 3: is crazy. You know what I'm saying. So next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, they ended up reaching out to my man, Jason.
Speaker 3: Jason ended up mixing a couple more songs on the album.
Speaker 3: That shit ended up playing out. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying right up, which is better.
Speaker 2: Do a lot of do. A lot of rappers send
Speaker 2: you their vocals without the beat and you bill beats around.
Speaker 3: They do that a lot. It's different every time, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But I like doing that.
Speaker 2: Though that's that's a hard process or it's easier for you.
Speaker 3: I love that it's easier for me, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because we could just I got the tempo,
Speaker 3: I got the temple that rap too, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. We got you know what I'm saying, we
Speaker 3: got the click track. We could just make a beat,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. I feel like every
Speaker 3: song is always different because sometimes like like with a
Speaker 3: super producer, right to me, like a super producer is
Speaker 3: like somebody who could be like hands on or hands
Speaker 3: off with the record, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: go through the whole process. Like you can make the beat,
Speaker 3: you can write the lyrics, you can engineer, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You can mix the song, or you
Speaker 3: can be hands off and get the right engineer to
Speaker 3: mix it, or get the right person to make the beat,
Speaker 3: or get the right person to do the melodies, and
Speaker 3: get the right person to do the drums. Or get
Speaker 3: and be able to communicate with the engineer and see
Speaker 3: it all the way through. You can't even communicate with
Speaker 3: the engineer if you don't understand what revert delay. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. All that kind of stuff is,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like verify or you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, the tempo or speeding it up a
Speaker 3: couple of bpms. All that kind of language is like
Speaker 3: you can't even communicate or even know what you're looking
Speaker 3: for right there if you don't even if you're not
Speaker 3: if you're not that you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 3: like I feel like with a super producer is automatic,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You can communicate with anybody
Speaker 3: from like I said, the musician in the room to
Speaker 3: the drummer, to the person that's on the beat machine,
Speaker 3: to the songwriters to the artists and knowing like put
Speaker 3: this artist with this artist because this is rare, and
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, this is going like
Speaker 3: Midas Cyrus whiskyly from Juicy Jay is like they don't
Speaker 3: see Midy Syris rapping, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: they don't even know who to go to get to
Speaker 3: write a rap for Miley Cyrus's song or you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, who to get to get that beat
Speaker 3: and make it super futurist, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's like being hands on her, hands off of
Speaker 3: that shit, like cause like black Beaters, Like I made
Speaker 3: that beat quick, you know what I'm saying, Send it
Speaker 3: right this way, booms, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: it's like it's different processes on producing every song, like
Speaker 3: and you got different ways, Like the new joint I
Speaker 3: just did with Sexy Red, perfect match. That was a
Speaker 3: song that she already had in her head, so she
Speaker 3: just went in. She she wrapped it a cappella and
Speaker 3: now I made a beat around it right there. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. At the studio, just doing your
Speaker 3: process and just knowing, like I'm big on a product
Speaker 3: supply chain. Now that's what I picked up over these years.
Speaker 3: It's like just looking at everything like the product supply chain,
Speaker 3: raw material supplier, manufacturer, distributor, retail consumer. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and knowing that I need to live I
Speaker 3: like perfect it and I live over here in the
Speaker 3: left space, like in the raw material supplier manufacturer. So
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm the raw material where I might make the
Speaker 3: beat and then it might go to the studio and
Speaker 3: be the supplier and bring that beat, or sometime the
Speaker 3: artist might be the raw material and like Sexy Red,
Speaker 3: like have this song that she wraps a capella and
Speaker 3: then she supplies that and then I make the beat
Speaker 3: around it and then add different features on it. She
Speaker 3: added two more features on there, and you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So, and then you have certain processes where
Speaker 3: it's like I got a whole production team, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, where it's like I pull up on
Speaker 3: P Nasty or I pull up on Mars. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: I hear this person on this beat, and then I'm
Speaker 3: the supplier. I'm taking this raw material. I'm the supplier
Speaker 3: and I'm bringing it to this and we're manufacturing something
Speaker 3: right here. And like like move that dope was like
Speaker 3: a sound like that. It was just like like different pieces,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, Like it was like
Speaker 3: Future laid the hook and then I had an old
Speaker 3: Future verse, you know what I'm saying, And it was
Speaker 3: like we were trying to wrap up, honest, so I
Speaker 3: had this Future hook on this one beat, and then
Speaker 3: p Nasty had a hook on the same beat that
Speaker 3: he was that he was writing for Shrimp. That's not
Speaker 3: popping bottles? Don't it make you feel good? Like him?
Speaker 3: And Shrim wrote that. So like Boom I was like, man,
Speaker 3: this is sound hard under this one hook that Future
Speaker 3: did on the same beat. Pee, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So Boom took that made that the ad libs took
Speaker 3: this old Future verse, put it right here. Let Pharrell here.
Speaker 3: Pharrell like, oh shit, bro, I gotta get on this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, bet Boom ad Forrell on here.
Speaker 3: I'm not even telling Future the whole time, Like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like add Forrel on this joint
Speaker 3: the next thing. I'm not next thing I know. I'm like, yo, bro,
Speaker 3: man see it. Push your ad verse on here. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Push your get on their body Forrell,
Speaker 3: send another verse back, like y'all man, how to go harder?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Push you on two phrases.
Speaker 3: But I like parts of Pharrell's first verse. So Boom
Speaker 3: I took parts of pharrell first verse in the second
Speaker 3: verse and piece that shit together and send it and
Speaker 3: I sent it to Forrell and I'm thinking he heard it.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking like, cause he gave me the thumbs up,
Speaker 3: so I thought he heard it. Man, he ain't even
Speaker 3: hear it. So when the song came out, he was
Speaker 3: like like, what the hell? Like what is this?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 3: Like, this is not what I sent you? Like, I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 3: I sent it to you. I got the green light like.
Speaker 3: He was like, man, I thought you just mixed what
Speaker 3: I sent you, bro, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So he was thrown off at first, but everybody loved
Speaker 3: it and the Future loved it, and we was at
Speaker 3: the video the Future told him we loved it, so
Speaker 3: he felt cool when it was shot the video and
Speaker 3: the world ended up like loving that joint.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, Humble, I want to Grammy in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with Kendrick speak to that process.
Speaker 3: Man, it was crazy, men, Kendrick, we were rocking, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Before we even did a song,
Speaker 3: we was already rocking for seven years. So I started
Speaker 3: out rocking with Schoolboy q Q linked me and Dot.
Speaker 3: I turned to Hello Beach for Good Kid, Mad City,
Speaker 3: Hello Beach for to Pimple Butterfly, and then like he
Speaker 3: dropped those projects and then like right after that, he
Speaker 3: was just like, man, bro, I'm gonna pull up on you.
Speaker 3: I about to start this home. I want to just
Speaker 3: pull up on you early and start the album early.
Speaker 3: So boy, we pulled up at the crib. Man listen
Speaker 3: to a bunch of beats, grabbed a bunch of beats.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, damn, I hope I miss his next
Speaker 3: album with whatever he talking about. And then he just
Speaker 3: had this one week where he just locked in and
Speaker 3: then he did Humble, he did DNA, and he did XXX,
Speaker 3: and he sent me the He sent me like videos
Speaker 3: on his phone. I'm like, damn, man, it ain't going crazy.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get to LA. Went to LA.
Speaker 3: I couldn't even wrap my mind around like XXX. Humble
Speaker 3: was like an automatic banger like XXX. I couldn't wrap
Speaker 3: my mind around in a good way. I was fucked up.
Speaker 3: It was like that innovational process or stage, like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. DNA. I was like, Yo, this
Speaker 3: is a single right here, like this, how you come
Speaker 3: back and just go crazy? Like and me and him
Speaker 3: were like Dad sat on that and he was telling
Speaker 3: me like Humble. He was like, man, Bro, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let you get Humble for Ransom too. I'm like,
Speaker 3: hell no, like Humble like him, Humble was a banger too.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, but it just don't fit my album.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Bro, you tripping, bro, like but I take it,
Speaker 3: but like you tripping, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then he was like, man, I think that's the one.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you know, but I think that's the
Speaker 3: one gonna let you get for your album. I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, bet so. Then I left the city. I
Speaker 3: was like, bron, I was telling my boys. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: Kendrick got this hard ass song.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: He talking about let me use it for the album.
Speaker 3: It'll be big for the album, but it's gonna be
Speaker 3: bigger if he put it out, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So he hit me. He was like, man, yo,
Speaker 3: top saying the same ship, Bro, He's saying Humble the one.
Speaker 3: I was like, Bro, I'm telling you, bro, that's the one.
Speaker 3: He was like, Man, all right, which one you think
Speaker 3: I should go with first? I was like, Man, if
Speaker 3: you go on radio, man just going Humble. That ship
Speaker 3: already hit. DNA just shows like, man, you you the
Speaker 3: hell of a rapper. They already know that, but they
Speaker 3: gonna get that regardless. Yeah yeah, and like he dropped
Speaker 3: that Humble, That shit just exploded. He dropped. He shot
Speaker 3: that crazy video. She just went crazy.
Speaker 1: Man shout out Last but not least Queen Bee Lemonade.
Speaker 3: Formation was crazy. Swaylee and Jimmy they hell of the songwriters, right,
Speaker 3: but like if you tell them like yo, I need
Speaker 3: you to write this song for Beyonce might throw them off.
Speaker 3: So it's like I snuck it in. We're riding in
Speaker 3: the car and we're going to Coachella, and then I
Speaker 3: had this beat like Beyonce was already hitting for like records,
Speaker 3: but I was like, man, we doing something with Beyones. Bro,
Speaker 3: Like this gotta be like a woman empowerment. This gotta
Speaker 3: be like single ladies level. This gotta be like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, It's gotta be like up there.
Speaker 3: So I was in the car with them and I
Speaker 3: was like, man, bro, I was just playing beats. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: we need to make the next man female anthem. Bro, Like, man,
Speaker 3: we gotta make we gotta go single ladies level. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like, man, we gotta just turn like we
Speaker 3: gotta turn the females up, like bro Like, Man, we
Speaker 3: gotta do. I was just throwing that out there, and
Speaker 3: then swe was just like nahn for real, y'all can
Speaker 3: write a female joint. Y'all ain't even got to think
Speaker 3: about who is Forger's, but like what'll be like a
Speaker 3: chant like they just looking for, like that that sweat
Speaker 3: that y'all coming with, cause it's like y'all different, like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, y'all coming in a different pockets.
Speaker 3: So Man Sway started freestyling to the beat and then
Speaker 3: next thing you know, I heard him say, okay, lady,
Speaker 3: and now let me get the information. I'm like what
Speaker 3: you just said. And he was like he was like okay, lady,
Speaker 3: you know, let's get it in for I'm like bruh.
Speaker 3: I turned out, pulled out the voice notes. He rapping
Speaker 3: that shit. And then next thing you know, and Jimmy
Speaker 3: came to the studio. He heard him. Jimmy went in
Speaker 3: the booth, laid some shit down, and I was like,
Speaker 3: that's all y'all got to do. Don't even worry about
Speaker 3: making it the song or nothing like boom, So I
Speaker 3: took that that reference vocal. We started working on some
Speaker 3: other shit, and I sent like four records of Beyonce
Speaker 3: and then I had went to I had went to
Speaker 3: a Laker game and like Brian was playing. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. This before he was on the Lakers.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, he was playing with Cleveland.
Speaker 3: But I saw Brian playing out running the Rich and
Speaker 3: Rich had already put together the commercial that I did
Speaker 3: for Brian in twenty thirteen with the Nike commercial, so
Speaker 3: boring saw Rich. We staying at the same hotel. He
Speaker 3: was like, man, come get some dinner. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. After the game, I'm all right, bet So
Speaker 3: he had called me later and then I was down
Speaker 3: there eating with them, him, Brian, everybody, the team, and
Speaker 3: then next thing you know, hoven Be just pulled up,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying out of nowhere. Then everybody
Speaker 3: down there were just passing the os, just listening to Ship.
Speaker 3: And then next thing you know, b was like, yo,
Speaker 3: I like one of those ideas you sent me. I
Speaker 3: was like, for real, And then I was like which one.
Speaker 3: She was like, man, that formation. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I was hoping that, you know what I'm saying. She
Speaker 3: was like yeah, yeah, Like I fuck with that, Like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna write some stuff too. I'm gonna go in
Speaker 3: do some verses and this and that this, And now
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, like that's hard. So next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, I go to New York licking with her
Speaker 3: for like a week, and then we just putting the
Speaker 3: final touches on that. But now she has like a
Speaker 3: real record, like she just took the okay, ladies, now
Speaker 3: let's get information. She took like certain like like a
Speaker 3: little line or two that she that she got inspired
Speaker 3: by and then wrote her verses and now it was
Speaker 3: like a whole record about like not only female ampowerment,
Speaker 3: but like black empowerment, her people empowerment, her family empowerment.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. She just yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just like some boss up female viobes. And then so
Speaker 3: we just stayed up there in New York and meet
Speaker 3: her plus her engineer, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: we just put like the final touches on the record
Speaker 3: or whatnot. And next thing, you know, like bro, we
Speaker 3: get formation. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Came together all right, man, last part quick hitters. First
Speaker 1: thing to come to mind. Let us know top five
Speaker 1: music producers of all time in your opinion.
Speaker 3: We gotta say Quincy Man, Quincy, Many Fresh, Juicy J,
Speaker 3: Kanye West. You know what I'm saying. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like yeah, wor like all of them right there?
Speaker 3: Any any producer that came through and disrupted the game
Speaker 3: like my bad for real, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: for real for show Timbo. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But like any any any producer that just came through
Speaker 3: and like disrupted that game, like I feel like and
Speaker 3: and showed that range. Quincy like this man, he had
Speaker 3: such a vision I feel like as a producer, as
Speaker 3: a as a as like a dope producer, like you
Speaker 3: you got the vision, You're able to see the unseen.
Speaker 3: So like Quincy was like real dope at that from
Speaker 3: from my understanding, I don't really know him like that,
Speaker 3: but I ain't never really worked with him or met him,
Speaker 3: but just like like studying his projects, like and he
Speaker 3: knew how to be real strict and he knew how
Speaker 3: to make that ship cut through, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying any producer that does that, like for real,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Timbo, Kanye, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like like then you got other producers too,
Speaker 3: like like Mark Ronson and yeah, you are all kind
Speaker 3: of different people, quick man. It's yeah, I don't even
Speaker 3: know why you ask that. Shout out to all of them.
Speaker 3: Shout out to all the producers that's changing the game.
Speaker 3: That's original, and that's you know what I'm saying, doing
Speaker 3: their own thing, that's out of pocket. Childhood crush, childhood crush.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Me a top two or three.
Speaker 3: Who was you crushing on Leah for shows? Yeah? Hopefully
Speaker 3: I was crying when she died and I had plans
Speaker 3: like she was a queen.
Speaker 2: Actually touched the childhood crush though she was the one
Speaker 2: man to say that they touched the child one repeat,
Speaker 2: no skips.
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson, Thriller, Oh nobody said that. Michael Michael Jackson, Thriller,
Speaker 3: and Prince Purple Rain for show All Lives on Me
Speaker 3: fifty Get Richard. I trying them for it right there.
Speaker 3: I'm my holy grail when I if I'm producing any album.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna tap in. I'm gonna tap into the
Speaker 3: nine songs on on on Thriller, nine songs on on
Speaker 3: Purple Rain. It's very focused for all eves on me.
Speaker 3: It's like Longest Hell. But there's so many bangers. Get
Speaker 3: rich of I trying. It's like bangers after.
Speaker 1: Bangers classically still sleep on it.
Speaker 2: Don't give.
Speaker 1: Five dinners that are alive.
Speaker 3: You can't ask for these, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Name five people, bro, Yes, you have dinner with you?
Speaker 2: You tell me, Bro, I asked this question every damn
Speaker 2: there on my show.
Speaker 3: Get your answer. No, No, we never answered it exactly.
Speaker 3: You want to ask me against that alive?
Speaker 2: I would do uh dead alive, Michael Jordan's, Malcolm x
Speaker 2: hueyt P Newton, Uh Mega Evers and probably Gina Hall
Speaker 2: your crush.
Speaker 3: Don't ask me.
Speaker 2: I can name another five right now.
Speaker 1: That's your first.
Speaker 2: I want sabilitate some funny something, you know, I want
Speaker 2: to learn something. I want to look at something too,
Speaker 2: maybe touch something that's gonna happen. You see any guests
Speaker 2: on All the Smoke, who would it be? But you
Speaker 2: have to help us get your answer on our show
Speaker 2: sightly that that's a good Yeah.
Speaker 1: Easy, he's in l A too.
Speaker 3: Any Yeah yeah Miami, Miam. We need to make that
Speaker 3: happen while man, you know you're swizzy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Man, We appreciate your time, continued success. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on all the new projects with the n b A
Speaker 1: and and the new stuff you have coming. And keep
Speaker 1: us in mind for our new all smoke jingle.
Speaker 3: We would love a jingle, man, for sure. I got
Speaker 3: a couple of bars for it.
Speaker 1: Jack is out in Atlanta. You might use those bars,
Speaker 1: you might throw them away, but.
Speaker 3: We still write a distract about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You can catch this on YouTube. You know where we're
Speaker 1: at a ship now. Smoke production, big Boy, we just started.
Speaker 1: You're the second show under the new umbrella. Baby, appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Inspired by Big Big On Productions. You would be like
Speaker 3: all the Smoke productions. That could be your little tag.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, little kid.
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week. Man, appreciate