WEBVTT - Mike Will Made It | Ep 215 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to all the smoke coming to you live

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<v Speaker 1>from Las Vegas. Jack, were running shit under our own.

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<v Speaker 1>We're working for ourselves these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of tags we used to normally hear

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<v Speaker 2>on our show when we here, he ain't gonna hear.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just us, just us.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we got Man, one of Billboard's fifty Greatest Producers

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<v Speaker 1>of the twenty first century. Grammy Award winning producer created

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<v Speaker 1>music with the likes of jay Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, Miley Cyres,

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<v Speaker 1>just the name a few. Welcome to the show Man,

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking Mike will Mighty.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Alrighty man, So Mike, you got a lot of new

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<v Speaker 1>stuff going on right now. How's life day to day?

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<v Speaker 1>What's new?

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to us minus the boys, Life's great. You already

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<v Speaker 3>know you know what I'm saying, but I ain't gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, now I'm thirty four, Now you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So like boom, It's like it's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>that to happen. And then at the same time it's

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm still learning, but like like I took like

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<v Speaker 3>a little break off from like dropping music like just

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<v Speaker 3>so consistently. It was really like a minute, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying like probably like my last album was

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<v Speaker 3>like seven years ago. Okay, yeah, so took a little

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<v Speaker 3>break off for that, and then I was just like learning,

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<v Speaker 3>like being able to articulate myself, man, because I have

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<v Speaker 3>like a whole company. I have producers, I have a

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<v Speaker 3>production company, I have a record label, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. And then it's like I lost my heart drives.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when I lost my heart Drives, that made

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<v Speaker 3>me feel like that made me take a step away

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<v Speaker 3>from music. You know what I'm saying. I started buying

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<v Speaker 3>like real estate, start trying other like different different like

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<v Speaker 3>business ventures and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>and just not all the way just zero straight in

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<v Speaker 3>on music. It's not like I took a step away

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<v Speaker 3>from music and when it got burnt out, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like I want to sharpened up.

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<v Speaker 1>Just recharge your batteries and diversified your portfolio.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations is in order ahead of the current season, you

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<v Speaker 1>parted with ESPN for Music Custom Strategies to be their

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<v Speaker 1>first ever lead producer in current music. What's the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you did after getting that call? I mean partner

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<v Speaker 1>with the NBA. I mean, you worked with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of greats, but you're partnering with the league.

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<v Speaker 3>That mean to you, man, it was dope. Bro. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just dope to be able to like combine music and sports,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. I just feel like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that's everybody either watching the game, listening to somebody's new album,

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<v Speaker 3>new song, or like you know what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's just it. That's just a culture. So it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's dope to make that collaboration. And I always been,

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<v Speaker 3>always been a fan of the NBA. I was letting

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<v Speaker 3>them hear a bunch of different music that I was

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<v Speaker 3>working on, and then like that Sway Lee and Lotto

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<v Speaker 3>record really stood out to them. So they were like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you think they could do another edit for like the

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<v Speaker 3>commercial art and we want you to like give us

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<v Speaker 3>like a sound really, you know what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 3>we usually go to like record labels and collaborate with

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<v Speaker 3>like record labels and tap in with their different artists

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<v Speaker 3>like that, but like we never really locked in with

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<v Speaker 3>a producer. So it was dope to like for them

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<v Speaker 3>for them to see that, And it was like I

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<v Speaker 3>came with a couple of different ideas, like I gave

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<v Speaker 3>him like our beat, you know what I'm saying, Like, y'all,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like he's have dope energy. We write down

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of names of artists that we hear on

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<v Speaker 3>like these beats. So after this way and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of record boom, we came with the money bag yo

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<v Speaker 3>and watch TV fat Like, I just liked what they

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<v Speaker 3>got going on. So they had knocked out one of

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<v Speaker 3>the beats, and then we got a couple more songs

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<v Speaker 3>on the way and stuff, so it was dope. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a dope collaborator.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the season, you guys will pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much have a whole album then if I'm not mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>round so you have that. So you're doing all the

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<v Speaker 1>national games, the big games all season, that will be

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<v Speaker 1>something you produced.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like a lockdamn project. It's something that we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about though for show, like man put all the

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<v Speaker 3>songs together.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so we talking it into existence.

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<v Speaker 3>Then yeah, it really really just manifested it, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Because like they had they had liked

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<v Speaker 3>the idea because I was like, man, I just made

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<v Speaker 3>music that people can bow to you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like boom. I was like, man, I can

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<v Speaker 3>mess around to be an album.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, So what exactly does like the job detail? Like

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<v Speaker 1>do you dictate? Do you have to check in with them?

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<v Speaker 1>You give them ideas, they give you feedback, Like how

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<v Speaker 1>exactly does the partnership work?

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<v Speaker 3>It's really just like a collaboration. Man, I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>like the one that I don't want to go in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And just like man, I'm like put my mind around

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<v Speaker 3>like making an artist because ESPN is not an artist,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So it's like really like

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<v Speaker 3>they let me know the body that they're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>and then boom, like and now it never came about

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<v Speaker 3>because with the tournament, it was just like okay, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a tournament within the league, within the regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like man, boom, Like they're like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>we need some high energy something like you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like just imagine like a little side side

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<v Speaker 3>like tournament going on within the season and like this

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<v Speaker 3>is something mess up people fighting for like how Lebrown

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<v Speaker 3>went off last night, Like it's like, man, what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell out? You know what I'm saying, and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>he taking his eies. Like it's like the playoffs, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, so boom with now or Never.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like they needed some high energy. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>how I mean, that's how we really chose that beat.

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<v Speaker 3>Gave it the bag, bag nail, the nail, the concept. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So how do you get in your zone? Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>as athletes, we have our rituals and routines we do

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<v Speaker 1>to get focused for a game. When you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're at your best making beats, producing Like what does

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<v Speaker 1>that consist of? Smoke?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I smoked. You know what I'm saying. I smoked

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<v Speaker 3>some gas. I'm really like at my studio in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. I got a studio in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 3>like like West Midtown area. And then it's like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not really like your typical studios, just like open and

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<v Speaker 3>then it's like a bunch of different creatives coming through,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying, but it's like my team.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I can go to them and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a challenging thing because like they might be making

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<v Speaker 3>beats and I'm like, bro, you hearing this? You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like what room with this living? Like

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<v Speaker 3>how you feel like this is going to stand up?

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<v Speaker 3>Cause you know what I'm saying right now, you just

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<v Speaker 3>starting off like and I can like challenge them in

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<v Speaker 3>these rooms and I can start seeing like their sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like form into something, form into something different, and like

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<v Speaker 3>them start putting their DNA on there. So it's like

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<v Speaker 3>I like producing like that, and then I like for

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<v Speaker 3>show cooking up, like I go to the studio, made

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<v Speaker 3>about three three to five beats to day easy, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's just like the regimen, like I try to make

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<v Speaker 3>five different bangers. But then it's like working with the

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<v Speaker 3>different team and coming with the different sounds and then

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<v Speaker 3>bringing in songwriters and then putting those different songs together,

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<v Speaker 3>and then different artists coming through my studio and then

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I can challenge them and try to get

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<v Speaker 3>them a different sound and they doing They're coming in

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<v Speaker 3>there already looking like Yo, this studio is different, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like man, I got to do something different in here,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so you're raising their game, You're challenging them competitive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the importance of like any producer, like when we're

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<v Speaker 3>coming up. I know when I was coming up, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, like for real, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>like Kanye or you know what I'm saying, any of

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<v Speaker 3>our any of our favorite producers, many fresh you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, juicyj DJ, probably like they pushing it,

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<v Speaker 3>but they leaving their DNA, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know we already know, like all those producers

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<v Speaker 3>are just name, you already know they sound or it's

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<v Speaker 3>a song that pops in your head with that. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I always try to get my team to

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<v Speaker 3>understand like that part. So then they coming through leaving

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<v Speaker 3>that same DNA like dope right up.

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<v Speaker 1>When you make a beat, is it with someone in

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<v Speaker 1>mind or once you create the beat, then you try

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<v Speaker 1>to put a name to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Or don't even to both.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think, Okay, you're just out there doing

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<v Speaker 1>what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't even think. Like I literally had the

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<v Speaker 3>beat machine right here, I'll be like, yo, say a

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<v Speaker 3>number between one hundred and two hundred, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, and then boom, you could just say anything

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<v Speaker 3>one thirty eight. Well, you know what I'm saying, one

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine, one seventy six. I make a beat right there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, that's the tempo. So so

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<v Speaker 3>whatever number you say, boom, got damn boom, put the

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<v Speaker 3>tempo right there, put the click track on there, and

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<v Speaker 3>just make something. I even think, just try to do

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<v Speaker 3>something out of pocket, as long as it's out of

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<v Speaker 3>pocket and it feel new and fresh. And they got

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<v Speaker 3>the room like this, and they got the people in

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<v Speaker 3>the room that don't rap acting like they wrap. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, That's when you got some shit,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah for real, because that's that's the vibe for real,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. And then it's always good

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<v Speaker 3>to have like a musician around as somebody who's like

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<v Speaker 3>good on the keys or like I like to collab

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<v Speaker 3>like that, so had them plug up too, I might

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<v Speaker 3>just I might just do that boom. Somebody might be

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<v Speaker 3>playing the guitar, playing the piano or playing playing on

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<v Speaker 3>the keyboards or something like that, and it's just adding

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<v Speaker 3>to it and just adding the layers, because that's essentially

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<v Speaker 3>when you're making the song, that's all you doing, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Just stacking rhythm and melody.

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<v Speaker 2>Your family has a deep musical background. Talk about your

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<v Speaker 2>upbringing and your musical background with your family.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely had like cousins I was looking up to

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<v Speaker 3>for show that was like you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>rapping and trying to start their record was in there.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom she she's sung with the Dotty People's Choir.

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<v Speaker 3>But my mom never made like any money after the

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<v Speaker 3>music industry or anything like that. It was just like

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<v Speaker 3>it was almost like her going to church, Like you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, She singing with dotted People's choir,

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<v Speaker 3>and they moved around to different churches and different stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that. In my pots, he always had like he

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<v Speaker 3>always he was like a DJ. So he always had

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<v Speaker 3>hell of rap records and stuff in in the crib.

0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.360
<v Speaker 3>So like all the earth wind the fires, all the classics.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Bobbie won't make like all

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<v Speaker 3>the classes. Yeah, he had all the vinyls. Somebody used

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<v Speaker 3>to see him like just put a vinyl on, play,

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<v Speaker 3>play the record, and then when he leave, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to do the same thing, but I want to hear something,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'll put it on there and think I know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing. Break his needle, like damn, you know

0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.079
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, ruar it up. I got two older sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>So my sister that's closest in age to me, like

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<v Speaker 3>she always listening to like R and B pop that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff, like some rap stuff, but like she

0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.960
<v Speaker 3>was like more that leaning. Then my older sister would

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<v Speaker 3>be more rap, you know what I'm saying. Like, but

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<v Speaker 3>she'll be like she was like out cast, you know

0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.839
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Like her husband put me on like

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<v Speaker 3>jay Z, Like you know what I'm saying, Because at

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<v Speaker 3>first I was really like just down South hip hop,

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<v Speaker 3>like all the way. But then her husband put me

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<v Speaker 3>on like Blueprint, and that's when I really started rocking

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<v Speaker 3>with jay Z. I fucked with him on that Juvenile album.

0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.080
<v Speaker 3>But like when I heard that Blueprint, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh no, he hard. Then I went back to reasonable

0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.360
<v Speaker 3>doubt and then I just started, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>tapping all the way in the right way. I was

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<v Speaker 3>always like a down South hip hop artist or like

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<v Speaker 3>a West Coast or like I like New York artists too,

0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.199
<v Speaker 3>like Nas and DMX, Jadykiss like off the rail, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. But yeah, so it was like that.

0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.560
<v Speaker 3>So it was always like that mix, that mix up

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<v Speaker 3>in the crib. I remember my pops had took me

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<v Speaker 3>to my first hip hop concert with Bone Thust and

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<v Speaker 3>Harmony Bone Thus in Harmony whoopd somebody's ass in the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd and everything like the whole concert ended, we had

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<v Speaker 3>to leave and all that. But my pops was like

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<v Speaker 3>in the car, he was tripping because he was like, yo,

0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.280
<v Speaker 3>music's about the end. I'm like what you mean. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like yo, there was no instruments on stage, and

0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.200
<v Speaker 3>I was like so what man? That shit was hard,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying, This is like ninety

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<v Speaker 3>four ninety five. But he used to go on the

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<v Speaker 3>Earth Wind the Fire concerts and all this, so this

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<v Speaker 3>is his first hip hop concert too. But that just

0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.800
<v Speaker 3>stuck with me, like because I always was like listening

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<v Speaker 3>to music, but when I started making music, that stuck

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<v Speaker 3>with me, you know what I'm saying, Like and that

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<v Speaker 3>that really like that stuck with me because I realized, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>things are like changing and evolution, like you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, and like that's what I even had to

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<v Speaker 3>look back on, like over these last seven years, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like looking back and being like, Yo, we actually pioneered

0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.360
<v Speaker 3>some shit, like we actually like ye, like we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>a part of that movement, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I was like the early stages of that,

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<v Speaker 3>but like being a student of that, seeing it and

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<v Speaker 3>not even understanding like there was anything else out there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, and then being able to

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<v Speaker 3>come in and make our own imprint in that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what do you think when you have these lines?

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Will made it. Gucci Man slated start status, everybody upgraded.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about Patchwork. First day I met Gucci man,

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<v Speaker 3>Gucci at what Not? Another first that I met Gucci

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<v Speaker 3>first time. This is the first day me and Gucci

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<v Speaker 3>ever recorded. He was working on the mixtape called No Paying,

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<v Speaker 3>No Pencil, And I remember he had called me from

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<v Speaker 3>Walker's phone because me and Walker used to hang with

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<v Speaker 3>each other all the time, so like he called me

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<v Speaker 3>from walker phone early in the morning. He was like, man,

0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.079
<v Speaker 3>wake up, Like I'm like, who this is? He was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>they gooch be at Patchwork at two o'clock, pull up

0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.480
<v Speaker 3>with with some hard beats. But at this time I

0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.000
<v Speaker 3>had already knew Goots for a couple of years. I

0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.080
<v Speaker 3>already knew Walker for a couple of years, but he

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<v Speaker 3>never had got on my beats or anything like that.

0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying. It was like feel

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<v Speaker 3>like getting that call?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it goosebu?

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<v Speaker 3>Damn?

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<v Speaker 1>I got what?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>You want to know? You wont know how I met Gucci.

0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I was getting my CDs printed up at patchwork, so

0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I used to always go down there, pay a couple

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<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars for some blank CDs. Boom, give me a

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<v Speaker 3>beat CD, I'll passed him out. So one day I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting pressed up. Gucci was upstairs and they were like, man,

0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, Gucci man upstairs. I'm like, for real, brother,

0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.319
<v Speaker 3>let me get one of them CDs. So I go upstairs.

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<v Speaker 3>He going from the studio to the lounge. So I'm like, hey, brother,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck with me. I got the beats. And I'm like fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. I'm like, fuck with me, man,

0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I got the beats. He's like, oh yeah, to the beats.

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<v Speaker 3>Went in the lounge, put a man, him and Fabo

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<v Speaker 3>in the lounge is freestyling on the beats, you know

0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.520
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. So then I'm outside the room and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just listening to it. I'm like, that's hard, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they record something. So next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Gucci come out there. He like, hey, man, you shot

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<v Speaker 3>it with the beats. Boy. He bring me up there.

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<v Speaker 3>He get my number. He tell me he needs the

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<v Speaker 3>session for the beats. He like, man, let me get

0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.840
<v Speaker 3>your number. Nah, I got his line. I got somebody

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.600
<v Speaker 3>trying to buy some beats. Like he just noticed this

0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.800
<v Speaker 3>young dude calling his phone. But he fucked with me.

0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.680
<v Speaker 3>This one. He was doing features for like like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred, like five thousand, like you know what I'm saying.

0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.080
<v Speaker 3>This trapped out Gucci like this way back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>so Boom, he had got locked up. When he got

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<v Speaker 3>locked up, me and Walker randomly meet each other. We

0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:09.760
<v Speaker 3>don't even know who each other is, you know what

0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So we're in the same club. He got

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<v Speaker 3>a cruel people. I got a cruel people. One of

0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.960
<v Speaker 3>his guys came in my face throwing up something. My

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<v Speaker 3>guy pushed him back. Boom, and I was about to

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<v Speaker 3>be on. Next thing, you know, my boy Obs and

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<v Speaker 3>Walker come out of nowhere. Walker jump in front of

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<v Speaker 3>his guys and now my boy Obs. He come, he

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<v Speaker 3>come up, he and he like dat Walker. They're standing

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<v Speaker 3>in front of us. They wap up. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at ours because my boy Obs had just moved down

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<v Speaker 3>from New York. So in this in this time of

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<v Speaker 3>of like Atlanta clubs, like we're fighting in the club,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying. So like when when

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<v Speaker 3>Oz like tapped up, I was like, hold on what

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying? And Walker was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>aren't you from New York. I'm like, nah, he from

0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.240
<v Speaker 3>New York. You know what I'm saying. And he was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>bro cool man. He had New York had them, and

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<v Speaker 3>he told his guys like, hey, man, y'all back up,

0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.400
<v Speaker 3>brou you know what I'm saying. Then they then they

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<v Speaker 3>all went the other way. Then me and Walker ended

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<v Speaker 3>up running into each other in the bathroom. He leaving out.

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<v Speaker 3>Then when I leave out, I see him right there

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<v Speaker 3>in the hallway and I'm like, all right, boy, was

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<v Speaker 3>just me and him in the club, you know what

0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying at this part of the club. So I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I might have to hit with this dude whatever. He

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<v Speaker 3>won't even know there. He just put his arm around me, like, hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just young and just defensive. I'm really too young

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<v Speaker 3>to even be in the club for real. He put

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<v Speaker 3>his arm around, like, hey, bro, some holes in here.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro like, man, bro, this y'all try to y'all stay

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<v Speaker 3>out here. I'm like, hey, yeah, I'm like, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>stay out here. He was like, man, I'm not really

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<v Speaker 3>off from He was like, man, we're from the South Side,

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<v Speaker 3>my word. And then I tell him, I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>my bad about earlier. Bro. Man, we just been trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get to the money. He was like, yeah, my

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<v Speaker 3>boys was tripping.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like what you do? He was like, you be hustling.

0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like nah, I'm like I'm trying to fuck with

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<v Speaker 3>the music. And so walking I was like a word.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, man, you know Gucci, that's my cousin.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, shit, Gucci, my boy. So I

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<v Speaker 3>pulled my phone out showing the numbers I got on

0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Gucci and then he's like, man, damn, you know Gucci

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<v Speaker 3>for real. I'm like hey yeah. So he was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>g you about to come home. Man, I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 3>you with him. And then and so I gave him

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<v Speaker 3>my number. Then we connected. Then he ended up connecting

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<v Speaker 3>me and Gucci. You know what I'm saying. When me

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<v Speaker 3>and Gucci ended up connecting, like I used to come

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<v Speaker 3>to the studio, shot a red fat boy, all them

0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.560
<v Speaker 3>they might be in the studio. These all the producers

0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking up to. So next thing, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>Gucci just put me on blast like it might put

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<v Speaker 3>the beats on. I'll be like, man, hey, no, you

0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.520
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. So and he was like, man, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>don't do all the nervous stuff. Man, put the beats on.

0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.240
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, I put

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the beats on. They started freestyling to the beats, but

0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.040
<v Speaker 3>he never got on them. So that day right there,

0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.159
<v Speaker 3>the Mike Will made it Gucci man slated part. It

0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.680
<v Speaker 3>was like that was the first day he called me

0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.919
<v Speaker 3>up to the studio boom and we did star Status.

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<v Speaker 3>I played the beat and he walked in. He was like,

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, man, yo, might will on that beat

0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.119
<v Speaker 3>right there, buddy, start status sayings Nigga straight celebrity baby.

0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:51.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh shit, And Nigga turned me up. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. Then in his verse, he said

0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.520
<v Speaker 3>that Mike Will made it, Gucci Man slated start sat

0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.720
<v Speaker 3>this nigga. Everybody upgraded from there right from that point

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<v Speaker 3>right right there, Like when that song came out, everybody

0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.080
<v Speaker 3>was like, Mike Will made it, that's your name, because

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<v Speaker 3>at first I was going by Mike Will. When they

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<v Speaker 3>heard that, I was just like, all right, Mike Will

0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.159
<v Speaker 3>made it. That's really where the name came from. We

0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.760
<v Speaker 3>ended up doing like twenty songs, Gucci not even listening

0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.200
<v Speaker 3>to the beats, Like he just pulled up the next

0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Mike Will go in the lounge to listen to the

0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.320
<v Speaker 3>last song he did, walked straight into booth, turning to

0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Mic on he don't even listen to the beat. Mike

0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Will just picked the beat, just going in a freestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how we were doing No Pay, No Pencil. That's

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<v Speaker 3>how we did Guappaholics, And yeah, that's where it all started.

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<v Speaker 1>At How old were you at that time?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like sixteen seventeen. Yeah, I was sixteen seventeen

0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:37.960
<v Speaker 3>because I was still in high school, so that was

0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.960
<v Speaker 3>like senior year type stuff. So like, yeah, that came

0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.240
<v Speaker 3>out O seven, so I was like seventeen eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when he came home this last time. Were you

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<v Speaker 2>at his first video? Shoot?

0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Man, we dropped the first as soon as he came on.

0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.879
<v Speaker 2>We did a video, a basketball video in a basketball

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<v Speaker 2>court at some house.

0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.399
<v Speaker 3>When Gucci first came home, we did first Day out

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.520
<v Speaker 3>the Fairs him on the radio in Les's twenty four Hours, Man, Like,

0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.840
<v Speaker 3>he called me, Mike, send me that first day out

0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 3>of fan send him to beat here, like, man, go

0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 3>mix it. He couldn't even leave the crib, you know

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.480
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, So boom, I wanted to mix it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the next thing I know, I was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna send to Charlemagne, and you know what I'm saying,

0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.879
<v Speaker 3>Like Charlamagne heard it. He fucked with it. He was

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<v Speaker 3>like he was like bet and they played on Breakfast Club.

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.600
<v Speaker 3>It went up. Then they shot the video, So that

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<v Speaker 3>might be what you're talking about. First day out the

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<v Speaker 3>Fans when he was in the house, he couldn't even leave, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>for real. And then we did Black Beatles. Now you

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<v Speaker 3>know me and Coots, man, we always rocking like for real, man,

0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.119
<v Speaker 3>we got to that's like one of them you know

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.280
<v Speaker 3>y'all know them dynamic duos. Man, for real, that that

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.639
<v Speaker 3>team work where he just ain't even really got to

0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 3>say too much to a person. You know what I'm saying, y'all,

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<v Speaker 3>just give and go. He past.

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<v Speaker 2>When he came home, he reached out to me. He

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to when he was shooting his first videos

0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 2>like pull Up Jack when he first got home.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hard.

0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.280
<v Speaker 2>We knew each other, but we ain't really just rock

0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.159
<v Speaker 2>like that before he went to jail. Okay, and he

0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.159
<v Speaker 2>came home, I guess I saw somebody opposed to a

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.800
<v Speaker 2>supporting them or something. When he came home, he reached out.

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.320
<v Speaker 3>So that was dope, and he was in a totally

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 3>different mind state. You know what I'm saying. Came home,

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 3>he was all the way focused, So you know what

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, worried up. That's hard that you were supporting video.

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that before you got your nice teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I had nice teeth then, Okay? That just this this

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<v Speaker 2>is a new set. Yeah, you just steal pearly every

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<v Speaker 2>time I get my money, I'm gonna get some news.

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:26.440
<v Speaker 3>I ain't mad at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to get some new, newer, newer ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, about too much before I got my nice, my

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.240
<v Speaker 3>nice teeth and ship. Yeah, we all my nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah influences. You spoke on Pharrell, You've also mentioned timbaland Drake.

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>You obviously took many fresh man Yeah, you took different

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>parts and difference and kind of made it your own.

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Speak to that and how those legends influenced your sound.

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because like early hip hop nineties, it was like

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.440
<v Speaker 3>West Coast sound, West Coast and so East coast, you

0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.960
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. Where Hypnotized Mind came through with

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 3>like that sound like you still had UGK, but it

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 3>was still kind of like West Coast sound like vibes,

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:15.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:19.440
<v Speaker 2>UGK was We had definitely a West Coast.

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:23.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, West coast yeah, abobam j G. Still it was

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.119
<v Speaker 3>down south, but it was still kind of West Coast

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 3>by early on, but it was like man like for me,

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 3>it was like man, when Hypnotized Mind came through, that's

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 3>what really like started give them like the South like

0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 3>that sound, and then it's like from there, you know

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:38.679
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, You got a Little John take from

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 3>that sound and then he come with his own sound

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:42.639
<v Speaker 3>with crump, you know what I'm saying, And then like

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Little John was a heavy influence where It's like I

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 3>respect that how he had the city and the chokehold

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 3>on all spectrums. He had to turned up club records,

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 3>the Crump records for passing try and then he had

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 3>the bankers with us. Then he had the joints with Loutter.

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Then he had the joints for you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So versatility.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was like the versatility and the wide range.

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 3>That's what I respected about like him and like phar

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<v Speaker 3>Real and like how they can spread they sound out,

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So that's something that I

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 3>always wanted to do. So like from like Lord John

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 3>and then shot it. Red brought like that sound. He

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:18.240
<v Speaker 3>had his own sound, like that trap sound. He he

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 3>brought that bass sound to the A and he had

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<v Speaker 3>his own sound. And then Drummer Boy like he brought

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 3>that Memphis sound to the A and like I was

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 3>just seeing it and it was like all right, cool,

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 3>like now this is like the South sound like the

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 3>eight Awaits and you know what I'm saying, different stuff

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 3>like that. So then I started building my team the

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 3>ear Drummers, And when that happened, Yeah, Ear Drummers came

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 3>about in two thousand and seven, and it was just me,

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. And then I was going

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to high school my brother plus and then boom, he

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 3>was the first one with ear drummers. And then I

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 3>saw it like I always was trying to, like in

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:56.880
<v Speaker 3>my mind, I always wanted to build this team where

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 3>it's like there's a bunch of producers that's thinking outside

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 3>of the box. It's like thinking on my level, you

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, where I look at them like, man, ship, Man,

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 3>you could do this on your own. But the way

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, like, man, we do this shit like this,

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 3>like we could change your game. So it's like, man,

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I felt like a team like that. Everybody on there

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 3>was like it was like the Gladiators, you know what

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:21.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like plus P Nasty Mars J Bow. So

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.160
<v Speaker 3>we started coming with this sound where it's like, man, Okay,

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna put the you know what I'm saying, like

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 3>the beats und there filter, you know what I'm saying,

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have to eight away its hitting in a

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 3>distorted way, and we're gonna take this the future and

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna take this Gucci, We're gonna take this to

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 3>two chains like you know what I'm saying, We're gonna

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 3>take this to trouble. We're gonna take this to dump

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 3>like everybody who we were rocking with, like you know

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.959
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, and and like boom, I was just

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 3>like the underground Atlanta sound. But it was like our

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 3>sound was known for, like Okay, the beat gonna sound

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 3>like it's going under the water. The base gonna sound

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 3>like it's distorting. It's gonna have this different kind of

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 3>sound that it's gonna break like this, and it's like, man,

0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:00.119
<v Speaker 3>we just kept coming consistently that on every track and

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 3>all our beats was always just different. Always a lot

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 3>of times the artists would be like, man, I don't

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>know how to get on this one, and I might

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 3>have to tell him like man, just do you like

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 3>the same flow, Like even when we did itching like

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:12.360
<v Speaker 3>rock and with Pluto, Like you know what I'm saying,

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm like when you heard the beat, he like to

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 3>beat hard. B If you get on this and just

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 3>do that, we win and flow bro, it's out of here,

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying, because we win. In

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite Pluto songs, like my Nigga June

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 3>got life forlow ninety nine years, were popping about us

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 3>every day, you know what I'm saying, Like like just

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 3>that voice, that tone, like how he was just cutting

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<v Speaker 3>through on that song.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like so your beasts were almost intimidating

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 1>to something. Some of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to call it intimidating because the people I'm

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 3>naming it they are beat.

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.159
<v Speaker 1>But just to me, I think it speaks to like

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.679
<v Speaker 1>your creativity. I mean like you guys are creating that

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>sound and like, shit, I feel it, But how do

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I jump on it?

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 3>How do I jump on this? You know what I'm saying,

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Because it's like at that time the sound was a

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 3>little bit too different to me, that's innovation, you feel

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 3>me When somebody don't understand something, it's like, okay, man,

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 3>you're cooking with grease. Like you know what I'm saying,

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Like didn't really rock, but like ain't nowhere around it.

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 3>For like the first five times, ten times I brought

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 3>it to the studio, but I only would bring that

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 3>beat to the studio. And I caught him on a

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 3>good night he had just did Tony Montana and then

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 3>he did Anyway Around It the same night. You know what,

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, but it was like he turned that beat

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 3>down so many times, but I could just hear him

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 3>on the beat. I knew he was on that beat,

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 3>and it just ended up being like a classic, you

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. At that time, it was like, man,

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 3>we were trying to make a name for ourselves. So

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 3>it's like just knowing, like now this beat is for

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 3>this person. No, lie, this is for two chains. We

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna get this nobody right now, Like I gave

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 3>it to a couple of people, you know what I'm saying.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 3>But I knew that.

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That beat, that's what That's what I was asking earlier.

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just like once you hear it, like you know

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>who's flow and and and it's gonna fit on it

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>in fact so fact, So you're known as someone who

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>is a monster with the drums. You're known as kind

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>of the drum king. And where did that kind of

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>come into your repertoire.

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<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to break the rules, like whether it's

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 3>like this like the sound of the drum, like the Sonnets,

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>where it's like man, making that shit distort, or making

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 3>that shit like being a weird podcat, any sound that

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 3>we do like we all pushing each other like na, nah,

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 3>I sound too regularly, Like you know what I'm saying, like, nah,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 3>we need to move to the left, we need to

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 3>move to the right. We need to slow it down,

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 3>we need to bring the volume up on the eight away.

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm arguing with the mixing engineers like they're showing me

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 3>on the board where it's like, now we can't crank

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 3>that it away up anymore because of this, that and

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.479
<v Speaker 3>the third, and it's like, but that don't matter. I'm

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 3>talking about how I feel like you know what I'm saying,

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm trying to create the new rock and roll,

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying, hip hop to me,

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 3>it is the same thing as rock and roll. It's

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 3>just this is our rock and roll, like you feel me.

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, now let's break the rules a little bit,

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 3>like let's make it distort, like you know what I'm saying.

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Distortion always been art, you know what I'm saying, Like

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 3>people love distortion when they listen to rock and roll.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, man, like just always breaking those rules

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 3>and just being out of pocket. I feel like, you

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, and not just coming with that

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>same boom boom boom, like you know what I'm saying,

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 3>that the same you know what I'm saying, Like you

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 3>know how it's gonna drop, you know how the high

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 3>hat's gonna go, Like not not trying to do that.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Rest in peace to my brother's school, but y'all had

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 2>created a sound that was crazy.

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Facts are you talking about school man? School legend? You

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like I ain't gonna lie school

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 3>like I've been doing school from like coming up in

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta too, on the whole underground scene, like he was

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 3>always working, you know what I'm saying, coming out of

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the East Side like duct tape like Alli, Like you

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. They had like a whole wave

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying, And it was like

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 3>all of us were coming up, you know what I'm saying.

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 3>And in school, like we was always around the same ape.

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 3>But I always knew school corrap, like you know what

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like he was always hard. So then it

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 3>was like boom, we're moving around resting piece of bank

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>like I was moving around at this time. I would

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 3>be in La and then I'll come back to Atlanta

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>and then I'll be like, man, all right, boom, like

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 3>because I'm always thinking about like what I'm gonna do

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 3>for it, like we gotta do it for the city,

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Like what's gonna be like another like city win. So

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 3>it was like bank Roll. I was like, man, I'm

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 3>locking with bank Roll, like and then we did a

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>couple of songs on my Ransom project and then like

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 3>we're we're working on some stuff and then boom, he

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 3>had passed. And then it was like School. I would

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 3>like keep in touch with School and he would like

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 3>send me songs here and there. School would either be

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 3>focused on music or he's not focused on music. So

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling School like, bro, I'm here, Like you ain't

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>got to keep telling me send you beats. I'm here

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 3>like whenever you want to focus, Like you know what

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like I'm here. So then next thing you know,

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 3>School started dropping different mixtapes and I was hearing on it.

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 3>I'll be tapping in on his mixtapes and I call

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 3>him like, brouh, you went crazy on this on the

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>mixtape with you and told me you went crazy on

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>this mixtape that I had. Bro Boom, Man, my boy

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Ducko gonna come to the studio. Man, y'all, y'all boys,

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 3>cook up something. I'm'na be back in town this week.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 3>They did big God. I ended up using that on

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Ransom too, and I was like my favorite song, Like,

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 3>like how he kept that motherfucker. So I was like, Man,

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I told school. I was like, Bro, when I get

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 3>back to you, hey, bro, we just got to like

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 3>lock in, make a sound. You just put it out

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>and then Bro like, man, people gonna come to you,

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 3>people gonna gravitate to you. Bro, like cause you hard. Bro.

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you know what I'm saying. I

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know what it's gonna take or what Like, you

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like, let's just whenever I get back, like,

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 3>let's just lock in. So he was like, all right,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Beck so boom. I was at Tree siund one night,

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>was like twelve or one in the morning. I thought

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>about it. I was like, damn wants to hit school.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I hit him. I'm like, Yo, School, what here you at.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm in the city. I'm I'm about to drop you

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 3>the address. Pull up to the studio, send him the address.

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 3>He came out to the Tree sound. We did bring

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 3>it back as soon as he walked in the room,

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I was making to bring it back beat. As soon

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 3>as he walked in the room, he was like, I

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 3>said something, my Motherfuckingry Diamond's on a young nigga dancing.

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Like, hey, man, load to

0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 3>beat up, hold to beat up. I'm like, bro, I

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 3>ain't even down to beat you know what I'm saying, Like, man,

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>load that ship up. Bro, that shit hard. I'm like, man,

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 3>record the beat man, let him get on it. So

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 3>he got on it. Did you do those thing which

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 3>one No, we ain't do, Dophin, Yeah, that's what that album,

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 3>the last album did. Yeah, they didn't do no thing,

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 3>but man, those were hard. No thing was hard.

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 3>He got man recipes. Cool man, he got so much music.

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying, word it up, like

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>for real. But that Edge Roll project, it was just

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>something special. That shit was major for the song, Like, yeah,

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 3>I ain't hurt that Edge well, man, you gotta go

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 3>tap in. I definitely heard it. That shit definitely classic.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. I got a classic for sure.

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Word it up.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Twenty thirteen, Miley c Ide was Beyonce Future to Chains

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Kendrick all the who's who in music? How did that happen?

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>And you signed with in the school? But at the

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 2>same time, talk about all that happened at the one

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>time I dropped.

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Songs with all of them on it. You know what

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. Yeah, I started off in the underground in

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta and then just staying down with like Pluto, two Chains,

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Gucci and just looking at them like, man, these guys

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna be the biggest. We're not think about no Grammys

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 3>when I think about but I'm not thinking about nothing else.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm just looking at like, man, these guys are gonna

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 3>be the biggest. And then like just locking in with them.

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>And then we're coming through the game and you know

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like like we're saying anywhere around it

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 3>and and Dirty Sprite and itching. I was all twenty eleven,

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 3>so twenty twelve it was that's for a future, you

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. And then with two changes, it

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 3>was Got one and Lila twenty eleven, twenty twelve, it

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 3>was music as you made. I don't know how you

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 3>remember this, because this was a significant part in my career.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 3>I was hungry. I was like starving like literally like

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 3>I ain't have no management at this time. I ain't

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 3>know nothing about the music business. I won't getting no music,

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I won't getting no money out of music or nothing

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 3>like that, you know what I'm saying. So like Booing

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve, it was like no, lie U turn on

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the lights and bands make a dance. I was like

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 3>the breakout year. I still didn't have no management. That's

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 3>when I met my management, you know what I'm saying.

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 3>And then Boom. After that it was like uh Rihanna

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 3>poured up, you know what I'm saying. That I met

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 3>with Miley's label Boom. Then we did We Can't Stop

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty three. That was twenty thirteen, and you know what

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Now we're cooking with now we now we're

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 3>cooking like our executive produced Miley album. I'm right here

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>moving while with Pluto we dropped Move that dope. I

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.239
<v Speaker 3>ended up meeting with Jimmy Ivian like every day, like

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 3>from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. When I signed my deal,

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>like I was, really I was. It really took me

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 3>like a year and a half, two years to even

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>sign my deal because I was just nervous about that shit.

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm winning. I'm winning when it comes to production.

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I got thirteen songs on the radio. Do I want

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>to turn into an executive? You know what I'm saying.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I ain't want to do anything where I was gonna

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 3>lose that. So I was nervous at that shit. And

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 3>then that's when that's when Jimmy was just telling me, like, man, yo, man,

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 3>you can't lose. You're not a loser. You know what

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. You can either learn to earn. And that

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 3>shit stuck with me. You can either learn to earn.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 3>And I just signed my deal. First artist, first artist

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>we signed was Ray Shrimmer. You know what I'm saying.

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 3>That's Ear Drummers backwards. Like you know what I'm saying,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy and Swae Lee, they were already stars. So I'm like, man, bro,

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I never knew that it's still going on from Pepperhead

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I was. I was ten years ago. So my record label,

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Ear Drummers I started two thousand and seven, you know

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. When I came with the record label,

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, I'm gonna have a rock and

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>roll side. You know what I'm saying, and I wrote down,

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 3>what's ear drummers backwards? So I wrote it down and

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 3>it was Ray Shrimmer. I was like, I'm gonna start

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 3>a rock band. You know what I'm saying. That's crazy.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 3>And then when I met when I met Jimmy and Sway,

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 3>they were rock and roll artists to me when I

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 3>saw them, they straight from Tupelo, Misissippi. My boy P

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Nasty had them at their cribs. Yeah, I already seen

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 3>him a couple of times. They came to the club

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 3>with us a couple of times. They were young, you

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. And I know they were songwriting.

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 3>But when I saw them, like in they artists mode

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 3>and like Sway Lee rapping and Jimmy but the streaming

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 3>ad libs or like rapping with him and then Jimmy

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 3>are jumping start rapping and Sway he got the same energy.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, bro, I don't know what I lean I

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 3>remember I leaned on the wall. I'm like, bro, he dudes,

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 3>they some real rock stars, like and I told him

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>this ship. I'm like, bro, y'all some real rock stars.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>So boom. Next thing you know, their name was Sway,

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 3>so it was Jimmy Swaying and sway Lee. I was

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 3>just telling them like, man, my man is sway in

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 3>the morning. So if I go to stat like you

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 3>heard that new ship I got with Sway, You're gonna

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 3>think like you got something sway in the morning. Like damn,

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy. I ain't no Swaying to morning to be rapping.

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying exactly. You know what I'm saying.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Like it might not register, but I'm like, man, what

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 3>y'all think about the name race Shremmer? So they were like,

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.959
<v Speaker 3>what's that? I'm like, man, that's drummers backwards. They're like, oh, ship,

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 3>that's hard. And then they're like, man, yo, we'll fuck

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 3>with that. Hell yeah, man shrim Life. I'm like, that

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 3>could be the name of the album. See with them,

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I already knew they gonna make anything cool. So it's like, man,

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 3>they could they could be that rock band. And it's like, man, Yo,

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna take people a long time to even catch

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>up with it, and they ain't gonna know how to

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 3>say it. But it's like, man, we don't go to

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 3>these other countries and tell people like man, yo, we

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 3>only know how to speak English. You know what I'm saying, Like,

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 3>speak English, Like nah, you learn their language. You move

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 3>how they move, you eat how they eat. You know

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. So it's like, man, boom, if they

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 3>like y'all records, y'all got all these hits, they gonna

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 3>learn how to say ray Shimmers. They'll learn that there's

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Beckwards ten years later. You know what I'm saying.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I want to mention a few names to you, Jared,

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 1>what it was like the working process with them in

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>what that track meant to you? Rihanna and poured.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Up shout out to Taran and shout out to my

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 3>brother Jabo. You know what I'm saying, shout out to

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>old man man. He kept bugging me like cause that's

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 3>when bands that make a dance was hot. So he

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>kept saying like, Yo, Mike, if Rihanna just had the

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 3>female version of bands and make a dance, you know

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like, should be out of here. And

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm like bro Chris saying like I hate when people say, like, man,

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, if I had Black Beatles, just give me

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 3>black Beatles, man, I hate Yeah, I just hate that.

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>So that but it was like it was like this

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>beat that my boy Jabo had made that was exactly

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>like bands make a dance. Like you know what I'm saying.

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 3>It was like another version. I was like, man, y'all

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>really want that? I bet bo when I played the beat, tryan.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 3>He a hell of a rider, you know what I'm saying.

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 3>So he just goes straight in, start catching the vibe,

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, and then boom, Chris Brown

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 3>come to the studio and you know what I'm saying.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Chris Brown come to the studio and he here. He like,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.839
<v Speaker 3>You're like, man, yo, shit reheard this. I was like, man,

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 3>she ain't heard it yet. He was like, man, I'm

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna tell her about this one. And I was like

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, that's hard. Man say let's you know

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Next thing, you know, Rihanna called the

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.879
<v Speaker 3>next day called Obam, was like, Yo, what's the song

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Chris talking about that? Mike Will got you know what

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. Next thing, you know, boom, she hears pour

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 3>it up. She cuts that shit last minute for the album.

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know if I was gonna make the album.

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Karen Kuak

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 3>for flying us out there having us work on that,

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 3>and you know what I'm saying, that was like a

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 3>beautiful thing, like and it was crazy because Rihanna she

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>never had a record like that at the time, you

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like, she never had like a

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 3>strip club record, like a club record, So it was

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 3>like that was an all the way new sound. And

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 3>that's what I try to do, like when I'm producing

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 3>these records, like I always want to make that record

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 3>world person remembers where they were at when they heard

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 3>they ship or what they were like what year was.

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 3>That's why I can read off these years like that,

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, because I want to you

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 3>want a person to feel like that, Like yeah, Like

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I remember, Bro, I was.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, there's a music you hear something like Man ninety seven,

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in high school. This is when I heard

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>when you said j.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Z exactly, I was in college. U c l a

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 3>fact with.

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>The mother fucking Tower Records about that ship put in

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>my New Tahoe that someone paid for and got for me.

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And that ship was you know what I mean? So

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you always time and place with music.

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Right, And that's crazy, Bro, And that that's the good

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 3>ship or whither that shit can be like some potato chips,

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, to eat the whole bag

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 3>and never get fulled, Like you know what I'm saying,

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Like you could hear this shit a thousand times and

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 3>never real even remember that shit. You know what I'm saying.

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 3>But it's like those songs that really stick with you

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 3>are like those ones for real, Like that's what I

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 3>always try to aim for when I'm producing these records.

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Black Beatles, you spoke to it. It went viral with

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Obama and the mannequin challenge.

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Black Beatles, right, Black Beatles. That was a crazy one

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 3>because it was like the dude who gave me my

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 3>first shot, Gucci, and then the artists that I'm my

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>first artist, and I'm giving them they real shot, you

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, and their first song together, and

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 3>then it's all of our first number ones at this point.

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I didn't work with Rihanna, Beyonce, Miley, everybody. You know

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, But like I got that number one,

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 3>but the person who gave me my first shot and

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.439
<v Speaker 3>the artists my first artist, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 3>First number one hot, one hundred. That was crazy in

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 3>the whole world. Bro, it was only that and the

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 3>pandemic made the old world freeze, you know what I'm saying.

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 3>And I was crazy and it was like that beat.

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I felt like that beat wasn't ever. It wasn't even done,

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 3>and that just showed. That just speaks to like Sway

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Lee how much he's like how much he's an instrument,

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. I thought that beat one done,

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 3>but I ain't know what I needed, so I just

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 3>sent it to him like, man, man, this beat hard.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna ask something else, but just get on there.

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 3>He was like, man, this shit hard. He did the

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Black Beat, the hook, send it back. Gucci just came

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 3>home from jail. I'm like, bro, listen at this song.

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Sway just sent me, like, bro, get on this joint.

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Gucci got on that joint. Boom, Jimmy got on that joint.

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. We had already turned in

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 3>the album. I was like a last minute joint right up.

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Kanye Mercy.

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.399
<v Speaker 3>He was the first artist of Flyers out of Town

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 3>to work like before then, I had never worked out

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 3>of time, so he flew me to New York and

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 3>my boy pen Ask and we were just up there

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 3>cooking up and like I wanted like one of my man,

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>my man j P.

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 3>He had told me, like, you know what I'm saying,

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that people want me to say the

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 3>name or not. Man, that's my man. We're here. Tell me, like, bro,

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 3>do not just go up there to put your drums

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 3>on shit. You know what I'm saying. Make sure y'all

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 3>do a song together. I was like, man, ir Bet

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 3>so yay. First thing, first day I meet him, he

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>was like, man, I got this song, just needs you

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to put your drums on that shit cause you know

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like yeah, like I need to put

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 3>your drums on this ship here, like man, because I

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 3>fuck with your drums here. Like there's a time in music.

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 3>So I respected it because he came to me and said, like, Yo,

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 3>there's a time of music where, like you know what

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, a producer comes through with a certain sound

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 3>and a certain frequency and they just need the right

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 3>artists with the right tone to just cut through on

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 3>that ship. And right now, you that guy. And this

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 3>was my first day meeting him, So I'm thinking like

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 3>there's so many different producers around. I'm thinking, like, man,

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 3>one of his a and I probably just flew me

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 3>up here. He ain't gonna know who I am for real,

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying. But when he said that,

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn, that's hard. So I'm like, all right, Bet,

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So I was really more

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 3>focused on, like I really wanted him to get on

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>like some these beats that we had. But then like

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 3>he played Mercy and he played it with no drums,

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Damn, this shit is hard. You

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, This shit is a hit. Bro, Like,

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 3>all right, Bet, he let me hear the one with drums.

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 3>He was like, I like this version, but I feel

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>like this version is kind of like doing the drums

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 3>that you do. Like, so I just want you to

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 3>go in and do you know what I'm saying, put

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 3>your touch on it. So I'm like, all right, Bet

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 3>did some drums on that. And the next thing, you know,

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>like he took it to the radio with another song

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Boom went on the radio. That shit just went up.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn. I was like, At the same time,

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 3>no life came out same time, turning on the lights,

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 3>got on the radio, same time. Juicy J just put

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 3>out bands make a dance. So it was like all

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.479
<v Speaker 3>this shit just happening like quick. You know what I'm saying.

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, you did this. It's twenty twelve. I

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 3>did the bare minimum with these drums. But it's like

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 3>that yeah effect, Like you know what I'm saying, like that,

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah heavy shook that ship.

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Up bands to make her dance. Juice and Jay Wayne Chains.

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that shit was crazy. I had sent Juice. I

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 3>had just linked up with Juicy J, and I send

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 3>him a pack of beats and then it was just one.

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 3>It was that beat. I was like, Bro, this one

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 3>right here is a smash. You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro,

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 3>please get on this wool. So he had hit me

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.399
<v Speaker 3>back here like yo. I was at my homegirl house

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 3>last night and man I did a set up in

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 3>her kitchen and man, bro went in on that beat.

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know what I'm saying. At this time,

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what the hell he talking about? He did

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 3>a set up in the kitchen, Like I'm like, send

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 3>it to me, un so boom he sent me. He

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 3>sent me the song man. I heard that ship, I

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, all I saw was Magic City d o

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 3>A Onnest. I'm like, bro, I already know what to

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 3>do with I was out of town. I was in LA.

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I know what to do with this.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I called him. I'm like, hey, we got hit. I'm like,

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 3>as soon as I get back to Atlanta, it's gonna

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 3>be the biggest song in the strip club. Like, bro,

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I promise, you know what I'm saying, Boom, next thing,

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, go back to Atlanta playing the joint strip clubs,

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 3>shit go up and it was just juicy on there.

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. And then I played it

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 3>for a couple more people. We were trying to figure

0:42:58.440 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 3>out who we wanted to get on there. He had

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.399
<v Speaker 3>set Wayne. Wayne got on there, Two changs got on there.

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 3>The rest was history. RE released it on my mixtape

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 3>and then boom.

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Jay Z Beach is Better?

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 3>All right? So Beach Is Better started off like Big

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Sean had ten to ten. He had that so on

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 3>ten and teen, so he wanted to beat around ten

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.919
<v Speaker 3>to ten. So like we had did a couple beats

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 3>around like the a cappella voice. Note that he had

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and Beach is Better was one of them, you know

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. So my boy Mars had sent me

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 3>a couple of options, and I was like, yo, man,

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 3>this beat hard, like hey, do this and that on

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 3>the I'm on the phone with him telling them different

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 3>edits to make d and then next thing you know,

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Mars sent me over to beat. I'm in the studio

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 3>with Miley. There's two people from Coldplay right here. They

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 3>had pulled up just to like hear different beats, you

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. And then I heard Miley said

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 3>ad lib so that and that Beach is Better as

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>an ad lib that I took from like Miley session

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 3>and put like an effect on it and put it

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 3>on this beat that Mars has sent. Then I sent

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 3>it the Big Sean like, bro, this this gotta be

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 3>the one, Like you know what I'm saying. We put

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 3>the extra juice on this one, like this gotta be

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 3>the one. So I never heard from Big Sean. Then

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>the next week I had the session with Hole, so

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I was locked in with whole the whole week and

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 3>then boom, so I'm playing on different beats and my

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 3>man Ryan Press was like he bro playing that Big Sean.

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, I can't do that the Big Seane

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 3>bro like, yeah, he's gonna fuck with that. He was like, Bro,

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 3>he was like, man, just playing for him, like you

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like at the end of the day,

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 3>you don't ever know, like playing for him. I was like, man, y'all,

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I got this beat, that idea for Big Sean, but

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting to hear back from him, you know what

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. He was like, oh, yeah, let me hear.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>So I played the beat. He heard that shit. He

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 3>was like, yo, yo, so what Big Sean say. I

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 3>was like, man, I ain't heard nothing, you know what

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. He was like, Yo, We're gonna get Big

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Sean seven business days, you know what I'm saying. I

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:57.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm like, all right, say last you know

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.399
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. And so I have reached out to Sean.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.240
<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, bro, what we're gonna do with

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 3>with the tender team? He was like, no, I had

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.879
<v Speaker 3>I had this other version that I like. I was like, oh,

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 3>for Rel was all right, bet. I was like, that's

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>all my brother, that's my areas brother. You know what

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. Too. Yeah sure, so yeah, for sure, you

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. So next thing, you know, like

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>hope I got on that beach is better. I remember

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Cala had called me like yo yo, Hove did a

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 3>record on that one beat you left him. He was like, man,

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to get him to put a second verse

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 3>on him, like this ship is going to be a problem.

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 3>And then everybody kept I will hear about it. It

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 3>was like, you know what I'm saying, I would hear

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 3>about this record. They finally said it's going on the album.

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 3>So then boom whole It's crazy because Whole rock with

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 3>his engineer like the long way, like Guru, you know

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.399
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Guru a goat. But at this time

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to like really stamp that sound. Like so

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't want anybody to like mix any any records

0:45:57.960 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 3>of mine because you know what I'm saying, I had

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 3>this injury there that I worked with Jason Joshua, and

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like with him, it was

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 3>like we already went through a thousand songs already and

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 3>we didn't already he like we got this sound, now,

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 3>we got our product supply chain going. So now it's like, yo,

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Big John, man, I need I need my man to

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 3>mix the record. Big John like, look, Mike, this ain't

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the time to be difficult. Man, like this whole man

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 3>like just send the files, like, don't don't try to

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 3>be difficult. I was like, broh, listen, I'm not trying

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 3>to be difficult, you know what I'm saying at all,

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Like if hole fuck with guru like Google mixed the

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 3>vocals that my man mixed the beat. I just need

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 3>to beat the sound how it's supposed to sound like,

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So he like, man, I'll

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 3>high light him. I see what's up. So boom. Finally

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 3>they say like okay, cool, go ahead and do it. Boom.

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 3>We mixed the beat, you know what I'm saying. They

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 3>send the vocals over that's mixed, We put it with it,

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 3>they send it back. They're like, yo, man, this shit

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 3>is crazy. You know what I'm saying. So next thing,

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, they ended up reaching out to my man, Jason.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Jason ended up mixing a couple more songs on the album.

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 3>That shit ended up playing out. You know what I'm

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 3>saying right up, which is better.

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Do a lot of do. A lot of rappers send

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you their vocals without the beat and you bill beats around.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 3>They do that a lot. It's different every time, you

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. But I like doing that.

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Though that's that's a hard process or it's easier for you.

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 3>I love that it's easier for me, you know what

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, because we could just I got the tempo,

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I got the temple that rap too, you know what

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. We got you know what I'm saying, we

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 3>got the click track. We could just make a beat,

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.839
<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying. I feel like every

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 3>song is always different because sometimes like like with a

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 3>super producer, right to me, like a super producer is

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 3>like somebody who could be like hands on or hands

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 3>off with the record, you know what I'm saying, and

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 3>go through the whole process. Like you can make the beat,

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 3>you can write the lyrics, you can engineer, you know

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. You can mix the song, or you

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 3>can be hands off and get the right engineer to

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 3>mix it, or get the right person to make the beat,

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 3>or get the right person to do the melodies, and

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 3>get the right person to do the drums. Or get

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 3>and be able to communicate with the engineer and see

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 3>it all the way through. You can't even communicate with

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 3>the engineer if you don't understand what revert delay. You

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. All that kind of stuff is,

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, like verify or you know

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, the tempo or speeding it up a

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 3>couple of bpms. All that kind of language is like

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 3>you can't even communicate or even know what you're looking

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 3>for right there if you don't even if you're not

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 3>if you're not that you know what I'm saying. But

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 3>like I feel like with a super producer is automatic,

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. You can communicate with anybody

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 3>from like I said, the musician in the room to

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 3>the drummer, to the person that's on the beat machine,

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 3>to the songwriters to the artists and knowing like put

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 3>this artist with this artist because this is rare, and

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying, this is going like

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Midas Cyrus whiskyly from Juicy Jay is like they don't

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 3>see Midy Syris rapping, you know what I'm saying, Like

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 3>they don't even know who to go to get to

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 3>write a rap for Miley Cyrus's song or you know

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, who to get to get that beat

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 3>and make it super futurist, you know what I'm saying.

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's like being hands on her, hands off of

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 3>that shit, like cause like black Beaters, Like I made

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 3>that beat quick, you know what I'm saying, Send it

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 3>right this way, booms, you know what I'm saying. So

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 3>it's like it's different processes on producing every song, like

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.840
<v Speaker 3>and you got different ways, Like the new joint I

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 3>just did with Sexy Red, perfect match. That was a

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 3>song that she already had in her head, so she

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:28.400
<v Speaker 3>just went in. She she wrapped it a cappella and

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 3>now I made a beat around it right there. You

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. At the studio, just doing your

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 3>process and just knowing, like I'm big on a product

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 3>supply chain. Now that's what I picked up over these years.

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.319
<v Speaker 3>It's like just looking at everything like the product supply chain,

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 3>raw material supplier, manufacturer, distributor, retail consumer. You know what

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, and knowing that I need to live I

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 3>like perfect it and I live over here in the

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 3>left space, like in the raw material supplier manufacturer. So

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 3>sometimes I'm the raw material where I might make the

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 3>beat and then it might go to the studio and

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 3>be the supplier and bring that beat, or sometime the

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 3>artist might be the raw material and like Sexy Red,

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 3>like have this song that she wraps a capella and

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 3>then she supplies that and then I make the beat

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 3>around it and then add different features on it. She

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 3>added two more features on there, and you know what

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So, and then you have certain processes where

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 3>it's like I got a whole production team, you know

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, where it's like I pull up on

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 3>P Nasty or I pull up on Mars. I'm like, bro,

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I hear this person on this beat, and then I'm

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 3>the supplier. I'm taking this raw material. I'm the supplier

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.439
<v Speaker 3>and I'm bringing it to this and we're manufacturing something

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 3>right here. And like like move that dope was like

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:47.240
<v Speaker 3>a sound like that. It was just like like different pieces,

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:48.400
<v Speaker 3>like you know what I'm saying, Like it was like

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Future laid the hook and then I had an old

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Future verse, you know what I'm saying, And it was

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 3>like we were trying to wrap up, honest, so I

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 3>had this Future hook on this one beat, and then

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 3>p Nasty had a hook on the same beat that

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 3>he was that he was writing for Shrimp. That's not

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 3>popping bottles? Don't it make you feel good? Like him?

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 3>And Shrim wrote that. So like Boom I was like, man,

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>this is sound hard under this one hook that Future

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 3>did on the same beat. Pee, you know what I'm saying.

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 3>So Boom took that made that the ad libs took

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 3>this old Future verse, put it right here. Let Pharrell here.

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Pharrell like, oh shit, bro, I gotta get on this.

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, all right, bet Boom ad Forrell on here.

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even telling Future the whole time, Like you

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like add Forrel on this joint

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 3>the next thing. I'm not next thing I know. I'm like, yo, bro,

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:35.800
<v Speaker 3>man see it. Push your ad verse on here. You

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.720
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. Push your get on their body Forrell,

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 3>send another verse back, like y'all man, how to go harder?

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Push you on two phrases.

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 3>But I like parts of Pharrell's first verse. So Boom

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.720
<v Speaker 3>I took parts of pharrell first verse in the second

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.480
<v Speaker 3>verse and piece that shit together and send it and

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I sent it to Forrell and I'm thinking he heard it.

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking like, cause he gave me the thumbs up,

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 3>so I thought he heard it. Man, he ain't even

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 3>hear it. So when the song came out, he was

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 3>like like, what the hell? Like what is this?

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Bro?

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Like, this is not what I sent you? Like, I'm like, Bro,

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 3>I sent it to you. I got the green light like.

0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 3>He was like, man, I thought you just mixed what

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 3>I sent you, bro, Like you know what I'm saying.

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 3>So he was thrown off at first, but everybody loved

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 3>it and the Future loved it, and we was at

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 3>the video the Future told him we loved it, so

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 3>he felt cool when it was shot the video and

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the world ended up like loving that joint.

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, yeah, Humble, I want to Grammy in

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen with Kendrick speak to that process.

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Man, it was crazy, men, Kendrick, we were rocking, you

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:36.839
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. Before we even did a song,

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:39.320
<v Speaker 3>we was already rocking for seven years. So I started

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:42.320
<v Speaker 3>out rocking with Schoolboy q Q linked me and Dot.

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I turned to Hello Beach for Good Kid, Mad City,

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Hello Beach for to Pimple Butterfly, and then like he

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 3>dropped those projects and then like right after that, he

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 3>was just like, man, bro, I'm gonna pull up on you.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I about to start this home. I want to just

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.959
<v Speaker 3>pull up on you early and start the album early.

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 3>So boy, we pulled up at the crib. Man listen

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 3>to a bunch of beats, grabbed a bunch of beats.

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:03.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, damn, I hope I miss his next

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.400
<v Speaker 3>album with whatever he talking about. And then he just

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 3>had this one week where he just locked in and

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 3>then he did Humble, he did DNA, and he did XXX,

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 3>and he sent me the He sent me like videos

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 3>on his phone. I'm like, damn, man, it ain't going crazy.

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to get to LA. Went to LA.

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.720
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even wrap my mind around like XXX. Humble

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 3>was like an automatic banger like XXX. I couldn't wrap

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:30.719
<v Speaker 3>my mind around in a good way. I was fucked up.

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 3>It was like that innovational process or stage, like you

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. DNA. I was like, Yo, this

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 3>is a single right here, like this, how you come

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 3>back and just go crazy? Like and me and him

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 3>were like Dad sat on that and he was telling

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.359
<v Speaker 3>me like Humble. He was like, man, Bro, I'm I'm

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna let you get Humble for Ransom too. I'm like,

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 3>hell no, like Humble like him, Humble was a banger too.

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 3>He was like, yeah, but it just don't fit my album.

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Bro, you tripping, bro, like but I take it,

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:58.720
<v Speaker 3>but like you tripping, like you know what I'm saying.

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 3>And then he was like, man, I think that's the one.

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna let you know, but I think that's the

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 3>one gonna let you get for your album. I was like,

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 3>all right, bet so. Then I left the city. I

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, bron, I was telling my boys. I was like, man,

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Kendrick got this hard ass song.

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 3>He talking about let me use it for the album.

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 3>It'll be big for the album, but it's gonna be

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 3>bigger if he put it out, like you know what

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So he hit me. He was like, man, yo,

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 3>top saying the same ship, Bro, He's saying Humble the one.

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:24.319
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Bro, I'm telling you, bro, that's the one.

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 3>He was like, Man, all right, which one you think

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I should go with first? I was like, Man, if

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 3>you go on radio, man just going Humble. That ship

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 3>already hit. DNA just shows like, man, you you the

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.880
<v Speaker 3>hell of a rapper. They already know that, but they

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna get that regardless. Yeah yeah, and like he dropped

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:44.919
<v Speaker 3>that Humble, That shit just exploded. He dropped. He shot

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.920
<v Speaker 3>that crazy video. She just went crazy.

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Man shout out Last but not least Queen Bee Lemonade.

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:56.879
<v Speaker 3>Formation was crazy. Swaylee and Jimmy they hell of the songwriters, right,

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 3>but like if you tell them like yo, I need

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 3>you to write this song for Beyonce might throw them off.

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's like I snuck it in. We're riding in

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 3>the car and we're going to Coachella, and then I

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:11.760
<v Speaker 3>had this beat like Beyonce was already hitting for like records,

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 3>but I was like, man, we doing something with Beyones. Bro,

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Like this gotta be like a woman empowerment. This gotta

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 3>be like single ladies level. This gotta be like you

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, It's gotta be like up there.

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 3>So I was in the car with them and I

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, man, bro, I was just playing beats. I'm like, man,

0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 3>we need to make the next man female anthem. Bro, Like, man,

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 3>we gotta make we gotta go single ladies level. Yeah,

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, we gotta just turn like we

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 3>gotta turn the females up, like bro Like, Man, we

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 3>gotta do. I was just throwing that out there, and

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 3>then swe was just like nahn for real, y'all can

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 3>write a female joint. Y'all ain't even got to think

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 3>about who is Forger's, but like what'll be like a

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.320
<v Speaker 3>chant like they just looking for, like that that sweat

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 3>that y'all coming with, cause it's like y'all different, like

0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, y'all coming in a different pockets.

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 3>So Man Sway started freestyling to the beat and then

0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 3>next thing you know, I heard him say, okay, lady,

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 3>and now let me get the information. I'm like what

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:11.280
<v Speaker 3>you just said. And he was like he was like okay, lady,

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, let's get it in for I'm like bruh.

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I turned out, pulled out the voice notes. He rapping

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:19.800
<v Speaker 3>that shit. And then next thing you know, and Jimmy

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 3>came to the studio. He heard him. Jimmy went in

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:24.719
<v Speaker 3>the booth, laid some shit down, and I was like,

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:26.479
<v Speaker 3>that's all y'all got to do. Don't even worry about

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 3>making it the song or nothing like boom, So I

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 3>took that that reference vocal. We started working on some

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 3>other shit, and I sent like four records of Beyonce

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 3>and then I had went to I had went to

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 3>a Laker game and like Brian was playing. You know

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. This before he was on the Lakers.

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, he was playing with Cleveland.

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 3>But I saw Brian playing out running the Rich and

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Rich had already put together the commercial that I did

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 3>for Brian in twenty thirteen with the Nike commercial, so

0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 3>boring saw Rich. We staying at the same hotel. He

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 3>was like, man, come get some dinner. You know what

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. After the game, I'm all right, bet So

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 3>he had called me later and then I was down

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 3>there eating with them, him, Brian, everybody, the team, and

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.359
<v Speaker 3>then next thing you know, hoven Be just pulled up,

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying out of nowhere. Then everybody

0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:17.880
<v Speaker 3>down there were just passing the os, just listening to Ship.

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 3>And then next thing you know, b was like, yo,

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 3>I like one of those ideas you sent me. I

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 3>was like, for real, And then I was like which one.

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 3>She was like, man, that formation. I was like, man,

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 3>I was hoping that, you know what I'm saying. She

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 3>was like yeah, yeah, Like I fuck with that, Like

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna write some stuff too. I'm gonna go in

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 3>do some verses and this and that this, And now

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh yeah, like that's hard. So next thing,

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, I go to New York licking with her

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<v Speaker 3>for like a week, and then we just putting the

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<v Speaker 3>final touches on that. But now she has like a

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<v Speaker 3>real record, like she just took the okay, ladies, now

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<v Speaker 3>let's get information. She took like certain like like a

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<v Speaker 3>little line or two that she that she got inspired

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<v Speaker 3>by and then wrote her verses and now it was

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<v Speaker 3>like a whole record about like not only female ampowerment,

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<v Speaker 3>but like black empowerment, her people empowerment, her family empowerment.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying. She just yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like some boss up female viobes. And then so

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<v Speaker 3>we just stayed up there in New York and meet

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<v Speaker 3>her plus her engineer, you know what I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 3>we just put like the final touches on the record

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<v Speaker 3>or whatnot. And next thing, you know, like bro, we

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<v Speaker 3>get formation. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Came together all right, man, last part quick hitters. First

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<v Speaker 1>thing to come to mind. Let us know top five

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<v Speaker 1>music producers of all time in your opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta say Quincy Man, Quincy, Many Fresh, Juicy J,

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<v Speaker 3>Kanye West. You know what I'm saying. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like yeah, wor like all of them right there?

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<v Speaker 3>Any any producer that came through and disrupted the game

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<v Speaker 3>like my bad for real, you know what I'm saying,

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 3>for real for show Timbo. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>But like any any any producer that just came through

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<v Speaker 3>and like disrupted that game, like I feel like and

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<v Speaker 3>and showed that range. Quincy like this man, he had

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<v Speaker 3>such a vision I feel like as a producer, as

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<v Speaker 3>a as a as like a dope producer, like you

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<v Speaker 3>you got the vision, You're able to see the unseen.

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<v Speaker 3>So like Quincy was like real dope at that from

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<v Speaker 3>from my understanding, I don't really know him like that,

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 3>but I ain't never really worked with him or met him,

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<v Speaker 3>but just like like studying his projects, like and he

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<v Speaker 3>knew how to be real strict and he knew how

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<v Speaker 3>to make that ship cut through, like you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying any producer that does that, like for real,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm saying, Timbo, Kanye, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like like then you got other producers too,

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 3>like like Mark Ronson and yeah, you are all kind

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<v Speaker 3>of different people, quick man. It's yeah, I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know why you ask that. Shout out to all of them.

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to all the producers that's changing the game.

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<v Speaker 3>That's original, and that's you know what I'm saying, doing

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<v Speaker 3>their own thing, that's out of pocket. Childhood crush, childhood crush.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a lot of them, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Me a top two or three.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was you crushing on Leah for shows? Yeah? Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>I was crying when she died and I had plans

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<v Speaker 3>like she was a queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually touched the childhood crush though she was the one

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<v Speaker 2>man to say that they touched the child one repeat,

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<v Speaker 2>no skips.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Jackson, Thriller, Oh nobody said that. Michael Michael Jackson, Thriller,

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<v Speaker 3>and Prince Purple Rain for show All Lives on Me

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<v Speaker 3>fifty Get Richard. I trying them for it right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm my holy grail when I if I'm producing any album.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm gonna tap in. I'm gonna tap into the

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<v Speaker 3>nine songs on on on Thriller, nine songs on on

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<v Speaker 3>Purple Rain. It's very focused for all eves on me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Longest Hell. But there's so many bangers. Get

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<v Speaker 3>rich of I trying. It's like bangers after.

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<v Speaker 1>Bangers classically still sleep on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't give.

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<v Speaker 1>Five dinners that are alive.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't ask for these, you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Name five people, bro, Yes, you have dinner with you?

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<v Speaker 2>You tell me, Bro, I asked this question every damn

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<v Speaker 2>there on my show.

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<v Speaker 3>Get your answer. No, No, we never answered it exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to ask me against that alive?

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<v Speaker 2>I would do uh dead alive, Michael Jordan's, Malcolm x

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<v Speaker 2>hueyt P Newton, Uh Mega Evers and probably Gina Hall

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<v Speaker 2>your crush.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't ask me.

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<v Speaker 2>I can name another five right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your first.

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<v Speaker 2>I want sabilitate some funny something, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to learn something. I want to look at something too,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe touch something that's gonna happen. You see any guests

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<v Speaker 2>on All the Smoke, who would it be? But you

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<v Speaker 2>have to help us get your answer on our show

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<v Speaker 2>sightly that that's a good Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy, he's in l A too.

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<v Speaker 3>Any Yeah yeah Miami, Miam. We need to make that

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<v Speaker 3>happen while man, you know you're swizzy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mike Man, We appreciate your time, continued success. Congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>on all the new projects with the n b A

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<v Speaker 1>and and the new stuff you have coming. And keep

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<v Speaker 1>us in mind for our new all smoke jingle.

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<v Speaker 3>We would love a jingle, man, for sure. I got

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of bars for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack is out in Atlanta. You might use those bars,

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<v Speaker 1>you might throw them away, but.

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<v Speaker 3>We still write a distract about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, we appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You can catch this on YouTube. You know where we're

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<v Speaker 1>at a ship now. Smoke production, big Boy, we just started.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the second show under the new umbrella. Baby, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Inspired by Big Big On Productions. You would be like

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<v Speaker 3>all the Smoke productions. That could be your little tag.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, little kid.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see y'all next week. Man, appreciate