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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. All right, let's get right to

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Speaker 2: the good stuff here. Commissioner Rob Manfred on the Little

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Speaker 3: Were they making it like the NBA, like the East

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Speaker 2: He talked about you heard about the West Coast games

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Speaker 1: That, but they still have that in other leagues.

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Speaker 3: You still have Braves, still have to go play the

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Speaker 3: Mariners every other year.

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Speaker 2: But less of it.

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Speaker 1: How's it going to be less of it?

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Speaker 2: Because they're going to realign and have divisions, like what,

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Speaker 2: everybody's still.

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Speaker 1: Gonna play everybody Everybody love everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody love everybody, but only a little bit, so

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Speaker 1: So basically this, you know, this effects Texas and Houston.

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Speaker 1: That's it. It only affects Texas and Houston because then

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Speaker 3: To go to the West Coast and play the Angels

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: What else is it?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't change one other one other team affects two teams.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, because the divisions already are regionalized enough, Uh

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Speaker 1: Which team travels more. There's two teams that travel two

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Speaker 2: No, no, sorry, American League and National League right has teams

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Speaker 1: Time zones have nothing.

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Speaker 3: That was that was the one thing where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: They still got to go over there.

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Speaker 3: The Mets are still going to have to travel to

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Speaker 3: unless they change the schedule back to you know where

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Speaker 2: But it'll be less schedule because they're gonna play your

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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference games more than your interleague or interconference games.

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Speaker 2: You don't why am I off? But don't you?

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Speaker 2: I understand that every team plays every team. But for example,

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Speaker 1: Let's use they play every team in the National League.

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Speaker 3: the NBA does it. We're gonna use the NBA because

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Speaker 1: And I saw the division they're talking about doing.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, we're gonna take all the whole West, the whole

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Speaker 2: Every other year potentially. Yeah, that's a big difference.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, whatever, miles my gas is expensive on those plants.

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Speaker 2: Just wait, so let's show the Let's show the layout

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Speaker 2: explain things. Now, this isn't what MLB laid out, This

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Speaker 2: is what Jim Bowden lay scenario. Yeah, this is this

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Speaker 2: Boden put two uh Eastern Conference teams in right in

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Speaker 2: as the Red Sox, the Mets, Yankees, and the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: The North Division of the Eastern Conference has the Reds,

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Speaker 2: the Guardians, the Tigers, and the Blue Jays. The Blue

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Speaker 2: the East. Mid Atlantic Division Baltimore, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, and Washington.

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Speaker 2: I'd be very thrilled to be in that division too.

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Speaker 2: Southeast Division Atlanta, Nashville and Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Bay, Miami. Miami's in the southwest to southeast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we're missing, We're missing.

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Speaker 1: Miss Miami's in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Midwest Division Chicago, both Chicago teams Milwaukee Minnesota. Southwest Division

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 5: I like it for the blue Jays. The blue Jays

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Speaker 5: are going to freaking They're going to be a large

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Speaker 1: Like, you guys, don't spend any money.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna annihilate this division. I like it. I actually wish,

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Speaker 5: I actually hope. I know we're not getting to our

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Speaker 5: you can mix it. Yeah, but I love that Charlotte's

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Speaker 5: But Charlotte, I think is a big League City.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 5: You need something out on the west coast or towards

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Speaker 5: But I think I think it's great. I think it's

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Speaker 5: not sure even what that was, but it's all all

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Speaker 4: But I like it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it changes as much as people think.

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Speaker 5: My hope is that less travel. If there is less travel,

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Speaker 5: does help with players injuries because then we get to

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Speaker 3: I just don't like the fact that you won't. I

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Speaker 1: You have a National American league. We're not the NBA. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not the NBA. And that's the things why make

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Speaker 1: So listen, whatever they want to do, they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, they came to you and said, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: Trouble is easy. I never had a problem when you

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying, if you're on Boston, it's now, Hey,

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Speaker 1: It's not their own network. They don't.

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Speaker 1: Certain certain places get better ratings.

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Speaker 1: Not knock on those fans. There's just less people there.

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Speaker 2: How about this, You're gonna have more matchups between the

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Speaker 2: You want a little more of that.

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Speaker 3: No, they play six times a year already. I mean

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Speaker 2: No again, you're on the White Socci and it's just like, hey,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen some people that are complaining about it.

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Speaker 2: This has been planned for a long time. The surprising

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Speaker 1: The expansion teams. They go to Nashville and Portland, they

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Speaker 3: Can they find teams that will give them two billion

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Speaker 2: I know, go ahead, quick to your teams. So we

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Speaker 2: got to go in a second. Yeah, you guys Nashville right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you said anything that surprising. I was

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Speaker 2: just like, what defans not know? I mean, this has

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's his legion, that's his legacy. He wants it done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with it. Will Carol injury expert under

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Speaker 2: Will great to have you on. Of course, we always

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this one's really complex and we The first thing

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Speaker 6: We see situations where just that over and over overhand

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Speaker 4: It would with anything. So they have to take care

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Speaker 6: After they figure out the root cause, then we can

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Speaker 6: Is it going to be something where they have to

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Speaker 4: So with Zach.

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Speaker 5: Okay, worst case scenario for obviously we're talking about blood clots.

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Speaker 6: Best cases, they clear up the clot pretty quickly, they

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Speaker 4: He simply couldn't fly, and that is a worry.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got I got asked, because you're giving us

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Speaker 1: Said, he gave us there, and Judge, it's gonna be

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not hitting for any power. I'm still convinced.

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Speaker 3: He went way back on the game I did in

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Speaker 2: He's not hitting this month like he does.

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Speaker 6: it took him a while to get there. I'm still

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Speaker 6: he can get it done. I mean, the guy swings

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Speaker 6: He had an elbow issue the year before he came over.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're exactly right. The question is why let's talk

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of pictures they put so much pressure

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Speaker 3: Flex are strained? Right?

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Speaker 1: What does that always lead to?

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Speaker 1: it's flexer strain.

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Speaker 3: And then it's Tommy John like, how big of a

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Speaker 3: deal is this for Chase Burns in the Reds that

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Speaker 3: he's got a what is it a grade one flexer strain.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I know that

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Speaker 1: means he's got a sore elbow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And this one is towards the elbow.

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Speaker 6: They keep saying elbow rather than four arms, so you know,

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Speaker 6: it's really on both sides that tendon. I think what

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Speaker 6: realizes a couple of things. First, it's a really low

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Speaker 6: grade tear. There's one, two, and three. One is you

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Speaker 6: know a little bit of tearing. Two is significant tearing

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Speaker 6: a chunk out of it. Grade three is well, you

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Speaker 6: got two winds. It's a full rupture. So they caught

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Speaker 6: it early. They've got great doctors there. Tim and his

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Speaker 6: staff do a great job with this. They've got an

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Speaker 6: MRI right there in his office, so they're able to

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Speaker 6: check this. I think that they caught it so early

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Speaker 6: is good. That Burns a guy who you know, had

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Speaker 6: the Wake Forest lab when he was in college.

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Speaker 4: I think he's used to dealing with these kind of things.

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Speaker 6: It's certainly not good, but like you said, we often

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Speaker 6: see it lead to further elbow problems. It's certainly a

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Speaker 6: red flag. So I think they'll be looking at this

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Speaker 6: in the off season. For now, it's a question of

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Speaker 6: how does the context of the team play out. Do

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Speaker 6: they stay in the race and he comes back in

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Speaker 6: If you remember, they've got his teammate and he hasn't

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Speaker 6: pitched much, I don't think at all this season. So

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Speaker 6: they've got to be careful with those young pitchers. They've

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Speaker 6: had a lot of injuries with those I don't want.

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Speaker 5: To brush off elbow injuries, but I do want to

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Speaker 5: brush off young pitchers and go to my buddy Josh

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Speaker 5: Hater closer for the Astros. Astros have been playing really

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Speaker 5: well with injuries. Now they lose their closer. Is there

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Speaker 5: better because it's a shoulder it's a shoulder strain, I

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Speaker 5: think is what he was listed at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: No, I was gonna say, they're calling it a sprain,

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Speaker 6: but it's really neither. It's the shoulder capsule, kind of

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Speaker 6: that gummy thing that holds it in place. And some

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Speaker 6: people say, you know, it's cartilage, so it's not a sprain.

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Speaker 6: Some people say, well, it's soft tissue, so we'll call

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Speaker 6: it a it's a capsule injury. That capsule starts to

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Speaker 6: get tears in it, and they used to kind of

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Speaker 6: heat shrinket, you know, like you do with packages. They

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Speaker 6: don't do that anymore because there wasn't much control. No

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Speaker 6: surgeon in the world wants to do surgery on a

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Speaker 6: shoulder capsule because it's so tough to get it right.

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Speaker 6: There's a new technique where they kind of fold it over.

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Speaker 6: You don't want that. You don't want injury to begin.

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Speaker 6: This one is tough for a pitcher. Short of it's

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Speaker 6: road hitterorcuff shoulder capsule, and then Terry's major. Those are

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Speaker 6: the ones you really really don't want. This one's a

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Speaker 6: bad one. He's not coming back in the regular season.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if he's coming back this season at all.

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Speaker 6: But they're gonna have to get this right. He is

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Speaker 6: going to be doing a lot of work with the physios,

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Speaker 6: the rehab professionals, and hopefully not the surgeons.

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Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna ask you, is there is

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Speaker 5: there a scenario where this works out better because he

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Speaker 5: is a closer and not a starter. Is there less

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Speaker 5: work in a sense? I've seen I've seen the rehab

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Speaker 5: without surgery. Is it less work for a closer, not

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Speaker 5: just because he doesn't have to ramp up his pitches,

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Speaker 5: but just that like work period where you have to

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Speaker 5: like get that shoulder strengthened and not loose loosening, you know,

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Speaker 5: Lucy Goosey in the back there. Is it better for

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Speaker 5: a closer than a starter?

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Speaker 4: Yes and no.

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Speaker 6: It's it's you're exactly right that there's not as much workload,

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Speaker 6: but there's more force. So it's a question of does

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Speaker 6: you know one or two really hard things be worse

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Speaker 6: than you know ten things.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like the old you know, do I

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Speaker 4: want to fight.

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Speaker 6: Ten horse ducks or one hundred duck sized horses?

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Speaker 4: Both are not good.

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Speaker 6: You don't want this injury, whether you're a closer, whether

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Speaker 6: you're a starter, whether you're a position player.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well thanks for going through the long list here

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Speaker 2: on a Monday, we saw players dropping down over the

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Speaker 2: weekend and all that, Yeah, you got something final work, and.

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Speaker 6: Kratz was mentioning not seeing a picture in the season.

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Speaker 6: Is this still true with the age of the traject

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Speaker 6: machine where guys are seeing pictures and their stuff. Hundreds

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Speaker 6: of times even before and at.

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Speaker 5: That nothing, nothing can replicate actual pictures that you're facing.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty close in my opinion the Traject. The Traject

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Speaker 5: does a great job. But when you're talking about guys

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Speaker 5: with the elite stuff, those traject machines throw pitches out there,

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Speaker 5: you're like, for real, that's exactly.

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Speaker 1: What it looks like.

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Speaker 5: Some of them are spot on, but some of them,

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Speaker 5: especially with the unique pitches, especially when you talk about

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Speaker 5: like a Roki Sasaki, that machine going to try to

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Speaker 5: throw something out there and it's gonna look like a knuckleball,

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Speaker 5: and you're like, no way, that's actually it. But I

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Speaker 5: haven't worked with the Traject and then actually implemented into

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Speaker 5: the season, so I'm not one hundred percent just calling

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Speaker 5: on what people say.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's my thing, here's my big thing, and I

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Speaker 3: never hit off the traject. But it throws all strikes too,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it. So it throws all strikes. It might be

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Speaker 3: different pitches, but it ain't throwing you the slider in

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Speaker 3: the dirt. It ain't throwing you the fastball above right,

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Speaker 3: or does it like it can throw like sliders in

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Speaker 3: the dirt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it can completely replicate exactly what the pitch was

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Speaker 6: from the data that MLB kind of the stat cast data,

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Speaker 6: And so if you saw a pitch in the dirt

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Speaker 6: or a slider that went outside that you chased, it

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Speaker 6: can replicate that. So you can see that pitch another

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Speaker 6: hundred times and figure it out.

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Speaker 3: But plus, they don't use real balls though, right they

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Speaker 3: use aren't they softer ball scrouts?

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Speaker 6: They like to use softer balls. I forget exactly what

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Speaker 6: it is. But we'll have to get you guys in

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Speaker 6: with the trajet. Guys, they're friends of ours. You don't

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Speaker 6: want me to break that machine, will you know?

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Speaker 3: I son of saw me with the bananas I did.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll take that intro. Yeah yeah, we'll take

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Speaker 2: the intro and see you guys face all kinds of

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Speaker 2: hell yeah, hell yeah. Well, good stuff. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for the time. UH injury expert. Will Carold make

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Speaker 2: sure you check out the substack under the knife. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot,