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Speaker 1: Boston Scott. We love it. The NFL announced the Saturday

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Speaker 1: and Sunday night games from week eighteen. You're looking at him.

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Speaker 1: They begin with a Saturday doublehead or shregs. What pops

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Speaker 1: seat that first game, Like you said, four thirty Eastern,

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Speaker 1: We've got Kyle Brand here, Peter Schreger, and the man

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Speaker 1: You could say he did the same yesterday. To think

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Speaker 1: it was irresponsible for him to go to the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: or for them to sign them, because you can't have

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Speaker 1: it both ways, because then you're not giving a chance

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Speaker 1: to somebody who might be dealing with some things. And

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who last year helped you win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and was critical to the team. So

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Speaker 1: maybe the time just run out and they're going their

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Speaker 1: separate ways, And is it irresponsible to sign an Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown to your Well, this is the thing coaches are

435
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Speaker 1: gonna always try to fix, try to fix players, and

436
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: try to fix human beings, and typically the sport and

437
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 1: being there typically is the best situation. So we all

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Speaker 1: play a role in this, because I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: covering abas whole career, and I've talked to his teammates

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I talked to the teammates that were there

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Speaker 1: the Facebook live on the field when he attacked Mayo.

442
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Speaker 1: Like all these things, all these warning signs, warning warning, warning,

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Speaker 1: warning warning. Bruce Arian is there for him. So yes,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arian and Tampa Bay, they are personally to Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady has listening to Tom Brady and Randy Moss. Randy

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Speaker 1: Moss got on a flight of his own paid to

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Speaker 1: go see Tom Brady when he was playing against the Vikings,

448
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Speaker 1: when Moss was working his way out of Oakland. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady has been a great teammate and there's hundreds of

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Speaker 1: stories of Tom Brady helping teammates along the way, literally

451
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Speaker 1: hundred of Tom Brady. And this is not only because

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Speaker 1: he's the quarterback, but because the teammate that he has

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Speaker 1: been and people have seen the support. That's what Tom

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Speaker 1: is talking about at GMAFE with her. But we can't

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Speaker 1: finish the conversation here. We got we had Chris On

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, I mean a month ago.

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Speaker 1: He was on your Hall of Fame list for your

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Speaker 1: cold Cups. We've got to get to what this means

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Speaker 1: for him, for his future. How we leave it. If

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Speaker 1: we've seen the last and Antonio Brown your thoughts at

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Speaker 1: GMF of course, I think most importantly, we do not

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Speaker 1: know what's going on as we sort through this, so

463
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Speaker 1: please remember that as you hit your Twitter send buttons.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen coming off maybe the best game of his

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Speaker 1: career playing against the Patriots, how do you do at

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Speaker 1: home against the Falcons? Early on, they're up seven to two,

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Speaker 1: Allan running on the waggle touchdown. He can do that

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Speaker 1: with his legs. Well, the Bills they win twenty nine

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Speaker 1: to fifteen. It was closed for a while. Falcons fought,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen did not play perfectly, but they do get

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Speaker 1: the win. What else do you got? Dolphins? Titans self

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Speaker 1: inside speaking of often, Let's go to the Dolphins. Terrible

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Speaker 1: performance yet what was this? What a blowout for they

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Speaker 1: come into this one ten hill or revenge game against

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. It would absolutely smack around Miami. Just a complete,

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Speaker 1: complete blowout thirty four to three. Dolphins eliminated from the

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Speaker 1: playoff contention, like Rabel to the number one seed. Right now,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Cincinnati, Okay, Jr. Chase sensational rookie season. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's late in the game. Of course, they get the

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Speaker 1: late kick to win it. Bengals and all their analytics

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Speaker 1: pull it off the North. They did, and he broke

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Speaker 1: himself a record. James Palmer cut up with rookie sensation

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase after his career day. How about your quarterback

484
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Speaker 1: and your former teammate at LSU and Joe Burrow. Did

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Speaker 1: he put himself in the MVP conversation today? He should

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Speaker 1: have the best quarterback. He should be in a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Second off, he should be in a race. He does.

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Speaker 1: A great guy, great competitor, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: He just loves football, you know everything about him. Does

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Speaker 1: a great due. He shows no emotion. He's always staying positive.

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Speaker 1: So as somebody you need next on them. And he

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Speaker 1: does a great quarterback and the Bengals run the North.

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Speaker 1: They clinched the title for the first time since twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: He also set this kid, Jamar Chase rookie record for

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Speaker 1: the most receiving ards in a single season, besting his

496
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Speaker 1: former LSU teammate and best friend, Justin Jefferson, who broke

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Speaker 1: that record last season. And he get it in seventeen

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Speaker 1: games in this eighteen game nonsense, they doe m nonsense.

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Speaker 1: So how big of a win Chris Carter was this

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Speaker 1: for those Bengals yesterday. Very few people have been cheering

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Speaker 1: harder for the Bengals than yourself. But this is not

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Speaker 1: too far from my hometown, and I'm starting to get

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Speaker 1: my high school buddies and stuff. Yeah, oh yeah, we

504
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: had We had to go to a little stuff home

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Speaker 1: before the game to get them pastor Mahomes just coming

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Speaker 1: to town. My grandson, can you can you get them there?

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Speaker 1: So the effect because football's big in Ohio, everyone wants

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Speaker 1: to get a part of it. But they got some

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Speaker 1: real superstar players they have drafted. Well, this is just

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Speaker 1: not a team hitting the hotspurt in Joe Burrows coming

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Speaker 1: back to Ohio, the originally's from Ohio, and then the

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Speaker 1: last two years what they've done in the draft. And

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Speaker 1: I think their defense is really underrated. But against Kansas

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Speaker 1: City yesterday day in the first quarter, a young team

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Speaker 1: down fourteen nothing, Patrial, No, this game is a rap.

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Speaker 1: How they're gonna boat race him and gonna score forty

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Speaker 1: against But they run that curl and Chase runs off

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Speaker 1: with it, and the Bengals got a chance. And every

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Speaker 1: time Kansas City did something, the Bengals came back with

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Speaker 1: the response. This team is here. To stay. Joe Burrows

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the AFC North. That's take. That's

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Speaker 1: a take. That's what Ben Baker and Lamar and I

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Speaker 1: can't argue. I can't argue it. I mean, Burrow's been

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Speaker 1: incredible and he was awesome. We said all week last week.

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Speaker 1: The only way they could win this game as if

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Speaker 1: they just outscore him and find it and they put

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Speaker 1: up the points. That's thirty four points on the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: defense that's been suffocating everyone. But on the other end,

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Speaker 1: like to your point, Chris, Chiefs were up in this

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Speaker 1: game and then the Bengals made a play. Von Bell

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Speaker 1: makes a huge play at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 1: The defense wakes up and says no more of this

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Speaker 1: defense suffocated Kansas City in the second half. Casey without

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Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards a letter could not run the ball, which

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Speaker 1: is a great concern for the playoffs. They gotta get

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Speaker 1: him back and they picked off the homes. Look at

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Speaker 1: the numbers here. Second half. Cincinnati defense was just suffocating,

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Speaker 1: giving up just three points, one hundred twenty yards and

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Speaker 1: just fifty passing yards from home. So this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a day of celebration for Burrow and Chase and

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Speaker 1: mixing as it should be. Cincinnati's defense was awesome too.

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Speaker 1: That's a complete team win. They shut down the unbelievable

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and Hill and they needed most

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Speaker 1: Congrats to the Bengals, awesome win. Congrats is the right

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Speaker 1: word to say. On Friday, in the Good Morning Football

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Speaker 1: program was about two things. It was about hyping the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. That was rough. It was beou hype the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, so we all kind of went around it

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Speaker 1: and I didn't, and I showed all their fifty plus

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Speaker 1: yard plays. And then after the show, the Good Morning

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Speaker 1: Football Twitter account tweets out the whole segment of us

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Speaker 1: saying Bengals are great. Bengals are great, and the word

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Speaker 1: unstoppable was used and quick, quickly, promptly. Tyron Matthew of

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs replies to Good Morning Football after

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Speaker 1: having watched the segment and says, man, they want us

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Speaker 1: to lose so bad, it's a shame, and that's not

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Speaker 1: true at all. We don't want Kansas City to lose, tiring.

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Speaker 1: You're one of our favorite guys. We love you. Kansas

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Speaker 1: City has been great, but there is an intoxication with Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: There is this feeling of oh my gosh, this is

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Speaker 1: the next big thing. And we came out and the

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Speaker 1: word unstoppable was used, and then guess what they were, Tyran,

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Speaker 1: They were unstoppable. You had a rookie wide receiver who

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Speaker 1: is the best game in the history against you guys,

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Speaker 1: Like we were right. Patrick Mahomes doesn't lose games in December.

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Speaker 1: Look it up. It just doesn't happen. He doesn't lose

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Speaker 1: November December of January. His records unbelievable fourteen in this

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Speaker 1: one up fourteen. I've always referred to all year as

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals is adolescence. I feel like in this game,

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Speaker 1: they got the driver's license, they voted, they got the

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Speaker 1: first beer. It was. This was a big, big, big

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Speaker 1: boy game. And I'm just so impressed and honestly, this

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Speaker 1: is an awesome win. And I didn't know they hadn't

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Speaker 1: in them. They do and they can beat anybody that

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is, what's the bottom line of how

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Speaker 1: we feel about the Bengals. Obviously, a game changer changes

577
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Speaker 1: the entire landscape in the AFC. They're beating the team

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Speaker 1: that represented the AFC and back to back Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: as a team that has Patrick Mahomes, a team that

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Speaker 1: has not lost since October that it's been playing so

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Speaker 1: well on defense. It's up until yesterday when Jamar Chase

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00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: made them look like they were in junior high. It

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Speaker 1: was unbelievable some of the things that we were seeing.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Sorry, what do we think of the Bengals, Like,

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Speaker 1: what is our bottom line on them going forward? I

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Speaker 1: think the legitimate They have some cornerstone pieces that you

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00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: can start to build around, and anytime that you have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, you're going to build to win in this league.

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Speaker 1: And look at the decisions that they've made the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Joe Burrows wasn't a knockdown, just okay,

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00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: we gotta take him. Chase was not an eight. You know,

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Speaker 1: we waddle like Smith like. They've made some good, practical

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00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: football decisions that have led to a good football team

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Speaker 1: beat on the field. There are some wild things that

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Speaker 1: happened this weekendsplications do not go anywhere. More highlights. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk a little Monday Night football as well. We have

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Chris Carter here, Peter Kylis welcoming nap

598
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: Rulison to the table and entering the chat. He's our

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00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: favorite triple threat. CBS Mornings co host contributor to the

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Speaker 1: NFL Today as well as NFL Network. How are you,

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Speaker 1: mister Nathaniel Eugene. I'm good, Okay. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing this morning? Happy New Year? We're great.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you. Let's talk about a little

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Speaker 1: bit this bucks jet situation, bizarre scene. Of course, we

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00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: heard you on the CBS broadcast a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: wanted to give you some time to share your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: We know Bruce arians after the game said that he

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Speaker 1: is no longer a Buck? What did you make of this?

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? First, let me be clear, I

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Speaker 1: don't know all the details. So there's some people saying

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Speaker 1: this is about his ankle and the rehab. There's some

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Speaker 1: people saying this is about the million dollars that was

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Speaker 1: hanging in the balance for the catches, the receiving yards

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Speaker 1: and touchdown that he would have received if he were

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Speaker 1: to hit those certain numbers. But I will say this,

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Speaker 1: it's unacceptable to leave the field the way that he did.

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Speaker 1: You should never have this type of reaction to whatever issue.

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Speaker 1: You have going on with your team. Now, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that want to immediately say he's losing

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Speaker 1: his mind, Antonio Brown's going crazy. Again, resist the urge

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Speaker 1: because those are very loaded words, and I believe it's

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Speaker 1: dismissing for a couple of reasons. One, you're not qualified

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Speaker 1: to tell somebody what type of help they need unless

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Speaker 1: you are a doctor. I don't think an average fans

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Speaker 1: standing in the stands should say he needs to go

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Speaker 1: get help, he's losing his mind, Antonio Brown is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Do not do that. And then two, we don't completely

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Speaker 1: understand the circumstances. By no means. Let me say again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not validating his actions. I'm not saying that Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown was fine with what he did. It's completely unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like before we rush to judgment on him,

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Speaker 1: his actions and the team, let's get all of the details.

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Speaker 1: Nate greatly appreciate your comments, and I understand what you're

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Speaker 1: trying to deal with. We're in Minnesota. Then, the screen

635
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Speaker 1: used to teach us that you control your image, so

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Speaker 1: the things that you do, they will control your image

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Speaker 1: and your branding. He said, I can show the locker

638
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Speaker 1: room that means I'm going to be in control of

639
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Speaker 1: who I bring into this locker room. My question to

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Speaker 1: you is, you've been part of the NFL community for

641
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Speaker 1: a long time, and I do believe you've been in

642
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver room for a long time, so you

643
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: know some of the things that have gone on. Are

644
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: we personally responsible as a community because we know more

645
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: about the story than people on the street do, and

646
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: we have accepted his behavior. After you go off on

647
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: a coach and a general manager and fight your way

648
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: out of Oakland, then you fight your way out of Pittsburgh.

649
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: You have the Facebook Live stuff and I can give

650
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: you another handful of stories that the public doesn't know about.

651
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Are we personally responsible because we knew who Antonio was

652
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Speaker 1: and then we saw him necessarily blow up yesterday. Are

653
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Speaker 1: you shocked? I'm not shocked, which is why I don't

654
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Speaker 1: want people to rest the judgment. And I'm not going

655
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Speaker 1: to sit there and take shots at Antonio Brown either.

656
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: I feel like he's going through something and he may

657
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: need to sit down and talk with the teammate, talk

658
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: with the family member, maybe even talk with a therapist.

659
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Speaker 1: That's not my job to say who he needs to

660
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: let out his grievances too. But I will say this,

661
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: when you leave Pittsburgh coach by Mike Thomas, when you

662
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: leave Oakland coached by John Gruden, we know he had

663
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: to stop in New England where Bill Belichick was the coach,

664
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Speaker 1: and now you can't last on the team coached by

665
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. It says less about these organizations and more

666
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Speaker 1: about you as a player. As far as being surprised,

667
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to drag to on this, So Tara Lawns,

668
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: please if you see this, forgive me for a quick second.

669
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: But Twell Owens was dramatic, and he had a little

670
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: bit of that flare on and off the field when

671
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: he was doing sit ups in his driveway. I wasn't surprised.

672
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking to myself, Oh, To was out of pocket.

673
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: You know what I said. I said, that's to being to.

674
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Speaker 1: I'm not forgiving Antonio Brown for his actions. Are saying

675
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: he was okay, but there was a part of me,

676
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Speaker 1: And I'm just speaking as a player, knowing what's going

677
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: on as I see it and what's going on behind

678
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: the scenes. I said, that's a B being a B.

679
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: But just like Tom Brady said, let's have some compassion

680
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: because he might be dealing with something deeper. As we

681
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: all know, when it comes to arguments we may have

682
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: with people that we love, sometimes blowing up over something

683
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: so small, it's not the issue at hand you're mad about.

684
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: It's something much deeper underneath the surface. So I feel

685
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: like Antonio Brown could be dealing with something much deeper

686
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: underneath the surface. Is it my job to say it

687
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: on national TV and call out this man for issues

688
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: that I don't know about. No, that is not my job.

689
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: But I would love to hear more from Buce Arians.

690
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: I would love to hear more from Tom Brady, you

691
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: know who. I would love to hear from Antonio Brown

692
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: because I feel like that man waiting for a car

693
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: outside of the stadium and then kicking it in the

694
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: back of a car headed to New York City while

695
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: his team was flying back home to land in Tampa.

696
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: That didn't seem like a man that lost his mind.

697
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: That seemed like a man that made his mind up

698
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: that he wanted to leave the team. Yeah, and I

699
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: think we can have empathy for Antonio Brown, but also

700
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Speaker 1: say that in that moment, he let his team down

701
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: in a football sense, and Nate, I'll go back to

702
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: the way the game finished. Ye to me, the world

703
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: melting around him, Tom Brady going ninety three yards, we're

704
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: not even talking about it this morning, and finding a

705
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: way to win that game. How impressive was Brady? Maybe

706
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: get some Brady some credit here for the way that

707
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: they finished out that football game and found a way

708
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, and you know what straits

709
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the bigger story. You know, as much as

710
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: we want to appreciate this superstar, somebody would say a

711
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career and Antonio Brown, how about what

712
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: we say all the time in football? Next man up,

713
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: Cyril Grayson junior. How about us talk about him for

714
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: a second. Kyle Brandt was doing the highlights, and this

715
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: young man had a moment, a go ahead touchdown in

716
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: the game that these guys need to win as they

717
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: get ready for the playoffs. He catches a touchdown. Tom

718
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: Brady walks over to the sideline talking to Antonio Brown saying, hey,

719
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: what's up man? And I'm trying to figure out what

720
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: those words were, but I can assume that Tom was saying, hey,

721
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: are you ready to play? Are you coming back on

722
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: this field? Antonio looks at him. I think he nods

723
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: his head and says, yes, okay. After that he has

724
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: a maildown. He leaves the field. What does Tom do?

725
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: Absolute professional, He puts his blinders on. He doesn't listen

726
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: to the noise, even if it has to do with

727
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: a guy that he stuck his neck out for and said,

728
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I want Antonio Brown on the team. Tom said, all right, cool,

729
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: he's not up. The next man is, and I'm gonna

730
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: throw him the rock and do what I've been doing

731
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. Leave my team, even if

732
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with drama on my squad. You're right, nay,

733
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: and I agree with a lot of things you said,

734
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: including one of that you'd like to hear more from Brady.

735
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: Brady's asked, what do you make of the Antonio thing?

736
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: And he goes into a story about how some of

737
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: our best friends we make throughout the league. At time

738
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: he walked off the field in the middle of a

739
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: game you were losing by two touchdowns, like, do you

740
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: have any thoughts on that? And he said he encouraged empathy.

741
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know empathy for what should we have

742
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: for him? And Tom knows him better than all of

743
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: us do. Maybe that is the smoking gun in the

744
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: sense that maybe there is something going on that we

745
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: do not know about, and there's a lot of people

746
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: in NAD I'd like your opinion on this. We're saying, well,

747
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: that's it. That's their final shot ever of Antonio Brown

748
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: walking off the field, getting the fans to stand up

749
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: and MetLife Stadium. What do you think is the future

750
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: for him? Are we gonna see him again? What's Antonio

751
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: Brown's future? It's tough to say. I don't want to

752
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: sit on national TV and tell you that he'll never

753
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: have a job in the NFL again. It's out my

754
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: job to hire athletes. I will say this though, Bill Caller,

755
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: every Sunday we sit down and we talk football. It's

756
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: a man with a wealth of knowledge. He often says

757
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: something that is stuck with me. He said, toleration comes

758
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: down to two things, talent and production. Two weeks ago,

759
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was one of the best receivers in the NFL.

760
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: This past week, he's a villain. The question is what

761
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: team is going to look at this man and say,

762
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: are you going to come to my team and be

763
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: a huro for us, or will you turn into a villain.

764
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure after this situation unless Antonio Brown comes

765
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: out and clears the year that he will be picked

766
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: up sooner than later. So well said Nate. We appreciate

767
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: you stopping by the show, of course talking about some performances.

768
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: Of course, we'll have you on later this week. Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year to you. We looking forward to having an

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778
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: talk little Steelers. It's in Pittsburgh, a North battle. We

779
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: saw one. You know we saw half of them play,

780
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: or we know we saw no, we haven't. Yeah, this

781
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: matchup is round two. Right of this matchup, let's talk

782
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: about what we're looking forward to in this one. Peter,

783
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing Ben Roethlisberger's last game in

784
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: hines Field. Let's see what he has to offer. Because

785
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers, k as we mentioned, still have a glimmer

786
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: of hope to get in this playoffs. They need some help.

787
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: But Big Ben, all the memories we have his last game,

788
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: Let's see he leaves it all on the field, and

789
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: can you get a win in his last game as

790
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: a Steeler in that building for all the intensive purposes

791
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: that we hear. So they got to win tonight and

792
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: he looks pretty shot. Yeah. Then they got to beat

793
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: the Ravens next week. And the trickiest part, they need

794
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to beat the Colts next week, which I

795
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: don't know if we're getting that. But if the creed

796
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: is never give up on the Steelers, then you never

797
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: go up on the Steelers. I think they're gonna win

798
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: those games. It is, it is. I can't possibly stand

799
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: here on the precipice and not walk the walk. I

800
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win the game tonight, I really do.

801
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: And then we'll be watching Jaguars Colts next week. That's

802
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: this time of year, Chris. It's always nice to just

803
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: see a great play or pull out some magic from

804
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: the past, and that's what we'll be looking for from Ben.

805
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: But as far as the future is concerned, what's the

806
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: future future in Cleveland with Baker Mayfield? Like Ben has

807
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: been a franchise quarterback for a long time, is Baker

808
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: Mayfield a franchise quarterback with the Cleveland Browns? And I

809
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: do believe that the Cleveland Browns will move on from

810
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and get a bigger, stronger, faster That's the

811
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: story of the lead a free agent because the draft

812
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: closet that here isn't so great at the time, Cleveland

813
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: will be looking for a quarterback, some free agent, some

814
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: studs out there with lots of Mike Tomlin's fifteenth consecutive season,

815
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: I five undred better. I'm rooting for them just for

816
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: that alone. Of a losing season, we'll see them right here.

817
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: They might sign av before the game. He might go

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00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: play for Think Nice.